Ethical implications of creating chimera and DNA experiments

[mojo]

This was not a feel good subject to discuss for me but feel the need to share it. IMO the post about cattle mutilation is related to the subject. We definitely know by the MIT article that scientist are performing experiments and creating chimera. While writing this thread it occurred to me that what was uncovered at planned parenthood this past year might also be related. I can't imagine what is happening in other less open countries in this area of research. It is a huge field of study today with scientist having nobody to answer for their tests or responsible to what they create other than the one in charge it seems a real problem. Sort of surprised that animal rights advocates aren't saying anything about it. Can't imagine this subject discussed in the mainstream media. My hope is that awareness of the research is the beginning of understanding. In closing thinking about a life form kept behind bars and used for some military applications without a voice or having rights to their freedom. Its the sinister side of the research.

There is always a good side to the research though that scientists can publicly share.

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[lucidity]

Hi mojo,

You say:

We definitely know by the MIT article that scientist are performing experiments and creating chimera.

Where is the evidence that justifies the assertion that "We definitely know" .... scientists are creating chimera ?

The video you present is about designer babies. Not chimera.

be happy

lucidity

[mojo]

Here's the link...
http://www.technologyreview.com/news/545106/human-animal-chimeras-are-gestating-on-us-research-farms/

[Curiosity]

Hi mojo,

You say:

We definitely know by the MIT article that scientist are performing experiments and creating chimera.

Where is the evidence that justifies the assertion that "We definitely know" .... scientists are creating chimera ?

The video you present is about designer babies. Not chimera.

be happy

lucidity
Hi Lucidity, This documentary will answer a lot of questions about Hybrid Humans, animals, Transhumanism, transgenics,genetic engineering, chimiras, ethical questions, what percentage of human DNA needed to give them rights under law, were the funding is coming from, who's doing it, their expectations for future medicine, future for military solders etc. and a lot more.

Hybrid World.
The Plan to Modify and Control the Human the Race

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8BE55vKLKE

[Lifebringer]

What is going on? Why are these Frankensteins allowed to practice. Why are they allowed to create life then torture it for profit? Why are people so beyond the realm of sane?

[mojo]

Thank you for asking those questions. It's heart breaking to think what might be happening on the darker side of the science behind this.

[mojo]

Thank you Curiosity that video was excellent, I'm on a tablet right now so can you add the video with the link above as it will be easier for people to decide if they want to watch it.

Tom Horn mentions at 24 minutes in that there is up to 50% human animal integration in some of the chimeras and also rogue scientists are working on it.

[Sunny-side-up]

What is going on? Why are these Frankensteins allowed to practice. Why are they allowed to create life then torture it for profit? Why are people so beyond the realm of sane?

Big Ducks 0.o

LOL what an apt typo!

Big Bucks is your main answer!

[conk]

I will never understand the idea of overcoming nature, battling nature, being better than natural. Are these scientists so narrow of focus that they fail to see how intimately integrated we are with the natural order. Nature will ALWAYS prevail. Embracing nature enables us to be so much more than all the grandiose plans of these crazy people. There is no limit while living in the expansive, harmonious universe created for us. Pseudoscience has limitation built in by default or sometimes by design.

[Sunny-side-up]

I will never understand the idea of overcoming nature, battling nature, being better than natural. Are these scientists so narrow of focus that they fail to see how intimately integrated we are with the natural order. Nature will ALWAYS prevail. Embracing nature enables us to be so much more than all the grandiose plans of these crazy people. There is no limit while living in the expansive, harmonious universe created for us. Pseudoscience has limitation built in by default or sometimes by design.

Perhaps that is why they are killing the nature and the planet, to make us have no choice!

[AriG]

I have what might be perhaps a naïve question, but I see that everyone here is referencing "nature". What is that exactly? Are we absolute in our knowledge that this world has evolved without any interference and in the best interest of all living things? If we were living in out best environment, why is there disease? And yes, we can attribute a lot of disease to man's actions, but what about the plethora of diseases that existed prior to the Industrial Age? If we were to adhere to a purely "natural" state, we would all be dead, given that the normal life expectancy for humans prior to modern times appeared to be under 50. To suggest that using blanked DNA from other sources will produce man/goat hybrids defies the underlying science. All living things are comprised of the same building blocks. Just arranged differently. There is a reason that the "missing link" has not been identified. We are already the result of genetic alteration and there are flaws. Should we not find a way to fix them?

[conk]

Nature is the physical world absent the ego, ignorance, and greed of humans. Plants and animals take only what they need. They do not destroy needlessly for gain.

And disease? There is no disease. There is malnutrition, ingesting of toxins, and emotional discord. I do not believe there were a plethora of diseases before the Industrial Age. 100 years ago there was little to no cancer, heart disease, dementia, diabetes, etc. Those ailments are environmentally caused.

[Sunny-side-up]

I have what might be perhaps a naïve question, but I see that everyone here is referencing "nature". What is that exactly? Are we absolute in our knowledge that this world has evolved without any interference and in the best interest of all living things? If we were living in out best environment, why is there disease? And yes, we can attribute a lot of disease to man's actions, but what about the plethora of diseases that existed prior to the Industrial Age? If we were to adhere to a purely "natural" state, we would all be dead, given that the normal life expectancy for humans prior to modern times appeared to be under 50. To suggest that using blanked DNA from other sources will produce man/goat hybrids defies the underlying science. All living things are comprised of the same building blocks. Just arranged differently. There is a reason that the "missing link" has not been identified. We are already the result of genetic alteration and there are flaws. Should we not find a way to fix them?

Good points there AriG

If we live in our best natural environment, shared with other members of nature, well such a mix will produce problems I guess and nothing is ever perfect!