I think we are heading towards a density shift

[WhiteLove]

For some reason, several times now I have had very vivid dreams about being in a reality that is similar to earth, but where the emotions are sent and received in truth without a blocking filter in between.

These dreams are incredibly beautiful, because since all of the unconditional love that you send is truly felt and received, this creates an enormously truthful environment full of joy.

When I've analyzed these dreams, I've begun to notice that they all follow a common theme - time, space, emotion - the consciousness experiences those as being less locked in and less limited, there is a lot of joy, emotional depth and truth present.

The people and the earth looks similar to here, but it's overall a less limited state of being. And what I've started to hope is that what I am experiencing is really that we are all in the process of shifting into what is commonly called the "fourth density".

Since this is a place where emotions are sent and received fully transparently without a filter in between, I think this kind of place requires some degree of spiritual training here on earth first, so that we all learn about unconditional love and how to maintain this state of being. When we have learned that, we are ready to transcend into this fourth density.

The learning process is not forever though. At some point, we might suddenly start noticing that positive things we think and feel about people, they will suddenly respond to in a totally new way. I think we are close to that now...

Now, let's say this is the case, but that the acceleration towards this kind of density experience is at a level that corresponds to something relating to the being here on earth, what could potentially then boost that? I have several ideas and several observations. But it is this being in unconditional love, that truly appears to be the driving engine. When the being in truth just sends love sometimes without even understanding how a response is even possible (because the human is at times in a state of limited thinking, sort of in a limited auto pilot not thinking at all kind of state), then that unconditional love I think is going to boost the acceleration, because it is so unconditional. As I've said earlier, it is as if there is a law in creation that is that unconditional love must always, without a condition ever, be reflected back to the source. In one way or another it seeks its way back to the source. Therefore I think that moving in the direction towards fourth density, is really about making the loving being inside come alive, let it love fully and unconditionally!

Because I've repeatedly now observed that I seem to be able to connect a moment when I know I have loved unconditionally, to surprising reflections back, either in the awake state or in the dream state, I have now expanded my meditation to include that what puts me into this state of unconditional love. I enjoy it a lot, in fact I love it!

[zahra4me]

From about the last 6 months of 2011 this whole idea of a density shift has been
trumpeted with vigor and lots of enthusiastic expectation.
And then the wording changed to a 'vibrational' shift, or 'dimensional' shift but
the same expectation was there.
And people kept saying and so we somehow felt it must be true.

Then there was the whole 2012 thing. And the December 21st thing.
And there was supposed to be earth changes of collosal dimensions,
with continents sinking, and tectonic faults opening up, and pole reversals
and volcanoes off the coast of Africa.
Nothing happened. People were then saying 'oh right but maybe 2013'.
And then 2014 because of the dating errors, or something.

The shift and ascension was predicted by multiple people for Sept 2015.
Nothing happened.
And now 2016, people are still talking about a dimensional shift.
I'm slowly beginning to wonder if this is a hoax,
and if it is, who's getting the payoff ? How does this work ?

[WhiteLove]

From about the last 6 months of 2011 this whole idea of a density shift has been
trumpeted with vigor and lots of enthusiastic expectation.
And then the wording changed to a 'vibrational' shift, or 'dimensional' shift but
the same expectation was there.
And people kept saying and so we somehow felt it must be true.

Then there was the whole 2012 thing. And the December 21st thing.
And there was supposed to be earth changes of collosal dimensions,
with continents sinking, and tectonic faults opening up, and pole reversals
and volcanoes off the coast of Africa.
Nothing happened. People were then saying 'oh right but maybe 2013'.
And then 2014 because of the dating errors, or something.

The shift and ascension was predicted by multiple people for Sept 2015.
Nothing happened.
And now 2016, people are still talking about a dimensional shift.
I'm slowly beginning to wonder if this is a hoax,
and if it is, who's getting the payoff ? How does this work ?

I think there are several aspects to this. First of all, we don't know, my theory is that we are in a process of acceleration, meaning that the sum of the past years might have meant less shift than this year and upcoming years. So that is one thing to keep in mind, that things might not work on a constant pace forward, it might be an acceleration. The second thing is that, no to my knowledge this earth has not at least previously been in a fourth density state, at least not when I've been living on it, I blame the lack of peace for that. Now, can peace increase on earth?

Yes, I do think that is possible. The third aspect to keep in mind, is that a true fourth density reality has very little "time lag", if it works like I think it does, that we are accelerating forward, then this acceleration might actually mean the overall "time lag" actually constantly goes down. Now it might still be at levels that makes the human mind unable to connect the dots, but as I mentioned already I am really starting to experience and observe things now that I was not able to see just a few years ago.

So at least I think it's possible.

I also think this: The creation process is accelerating forever. Never ever will the acceleration stop anywhere ever. This is what is so mind bending. That it truly seems that the miracle is infinite in miraculous-ness. And it is a miracle also because all of us are able to take part in precisely that kind of reality! And is an event based dimensional shift possible? Yes! I have gone through one!!

So my perspective is that in absolute terms it is truly not a question of limitation.

[Tyy1907]

There's a time for everything. Us humans don't like that saying cause we want it now. When someone says itll happen now and the timeline changes we lose faith. This time we have now can be used to process our blockages and clear ourselves through those around us. Just wait till our full potential is put online and our hearts intent is perceived by all before we have to say one word. Just think of those phony people who deceive everyone around them. I love hearing about this dream. To me these reoccurring dreams people have have more validity than a lot of the alternative material out there. Let's create it!

[wnlight]

There are many who do not like the concept of a density or vibrational shift because that would lessen their dark control over humanity. They do what they can to increase fear, hate and dispair. That, they hope would delay the inevitable shift.

[amor]

Would someone explain WHAT a dimentional shift is and what brings it about? Until I can analyze that I must relegate this whole thing to new age rubbish.

[Bill Ryan]

From about the last 6 months of 2011 this whole idea of a density shift has been
trumpeted with vigor and lots of enthusiastic expectation.
And then the wording changed to a 'vibrational' shift, or 'dimensional' shift but
the same expectation was there.
And people kept saying and so we somehow felt it must be true.

Then there was the whole 2012 thing. And the December 21st thing.
And there was supposed to be earth changes of collosal dimensions,
with continents sinking, and tectonic faults opening up, and pole reversals
and volcanoes off the coast of Africa.
Nothing happened. People were then saying 'oh right but maybe 2013'.
And then 2014 because of the dating errors, or something.

The shift and ascension was predicted by multiple people for Sept 2015.
Nothing happened.
And now 2016, people are still talking about a dimensional shift.
I'm slowly beginning to wonder if this is a hoax,
and if it is, who's getting the payoff ? How does this work ?

Yes, to all the above!

(Meaning, this is nonsense injected into the alternative community that makes more rational people quietly close the door and tiptoe away.)

The payoff is to whoever has it in their interest to have the alternative community look like a bunch of space-case loony-tunes. That may offer some clues. :)

HOW this gets injected into the community is another question. Sometimes it's just pretty much one person, whose ideas get traction and are then quoted by a LOT of other people — till it becomes a broadly-accepted (and uncritically-examined) meme.

An example of this is the 21 Dec 2012 thing. I'd not call it a 'hoax', but it's nonsense, and always was. The date was widely promoted as being influential and significant by LSD-influenced Terence McKenna. Nothing that NASA (or genuine Mayan scholars!) could say made any difference.

There's quite a lot of other stuff that falls into that category... including (with apologies to WhiteLove, who always means well) "heading into another dimension". That's a near-meaningless statement, even when worded in a way such that the terms used have definitions.

I've always said that anyone who thinks that Planet Earth is on the verge of a massive, beneficial transition should go spend some time traveling in Africa or India. Or even Ecuador, where I live at the moment. Or maybe sail across the Pacific Ocean, much of which is close to being a dead zone.

The planet is in trouble, and so is the human race, and this is NOT NOT NOT going to suddenly, magically change just because we'd like it to.

We have to do real work, and that's the real challenge.

Much of what is in the alternative media (including threads like this — with apologies a second time) discourages us from bothering to lift a finger to do anything.

Because we hope (remember Obama, peddling hope? That's a real baited hook) — we HOPE there's going to be a magical solution. And there won't be.

Then ask... Cui bono? Who benefits?

[Tyy1907]

Well 8f we truly have open minds we'll be open to hearing about fellow avalon members who have profound dreams such as this. Reoccurring dreams that compel them to share with like minded souls such as on Avalon. Is this state of existence something I'd like to experience? Obviously yes. It resonates with me. Does this reality seem far off? To some more than others yes. Has this subject been co-opted and exploited and manipulated? I'm sure of it. Well who gains from manipulating this subject t? The ones who's power slips away more each day perhaps?

To those that a reality such as this seems impossible, well it is. To them. That's their path. That's what they're help g to create.

To those that have seen the power that unconditional love does have it's not impossible. It has a way of growing. Exponentially.

Call me a dreamer it's fine. I think of myself as a lover.

[Shannon]

Beautiful, whitelove. :)

I'm a dreamer, a romantic and a hope-fiend as well...sigh

[Bluegreen]

I think we are in the midst of a density shift
All aboard for funtime

:happy:

[Sean]

From about the last 6 months of 2011 this whole idea of a density shift has been
trumpeted with vigor and lots of enthusiastic expectation.
And then the wording changed to a 'vibrational' shift, or 'dimensional' shift but
the same expectation was there.
And people kept saying and so we somehow felt it must be true.

Then there was the whole 2012 thing. And the December 21st thing.
And there was supposed to be earth changes of collosal dimensions,
with continents sinking, and tectonic faults opening up, and pole reversals
and volcanoes off the coast of Africa.
Nothing happened. People were then saying 'oh right but maybe 2013'.
And then 2014 because of the dating errors, or something.

The shift and ascension was predicted by multiple people for Sept 2015.
Nothing happened.
And now 2016, people are still talking about a dimensional shift.
I'm slowly beginning to wonder if this is a hoax,
and if it is, who's getting the payoff ? How does this work ?

I think that, again and again, we are fooled by the "prognosticators" in the new age field into giving up our personal discernment, especially regarding the "when" of stuff happening. There is a shift happening, I feel it. that's how I know. Not because someone told me. I don't know if it's 4th density..in space/time, does such a label really mean anything? Humanity is clearly beginning to vibrate at a higher frequency. We know because the old paradigms are literally being shaken apart by said frequency.

the physical manifestations of this are found in the financial markets, in the new scientific discoveries(which is just a rediscovering of ancient knowledge/tech), and in consciousness itself in countless ways, whether it's so many people exhibiting various siddhi's, indigo/starseed phenomenon, UFO disclosure-esque happenings, and so on and so forth. If we were not "ascending" vibrationally, most of these things would not be happening. Light=information, darkness=lack of information. Light is of a higher vibration than darkness.

Let's focus on our own discernment, look at the evidence that's right in our face, and let's stop being led by the nose by others who may or may not have the right track of information. we all need to be our own intelligence agency, basically. Be an analyst, not a follower.

[Limor Wolf]

Originally posted by Bill Ryan: "The planet is in trouble.."


" We have to do real work, and that's the real challenge."

Thank you for putting an emphasis on that Bill, Then the Planet is the key, her impacable support of all life and it's own beingness is targeted, we are but part of the planet and awe her much, a joined forces for the planet may be where the focus can best serve, not so much our own 'ascension'.

Another thing is that there is a process that is going on, a process that is fought tooth and nail via every means by those who are afraid for their food source supply and will not do the work needed to achieve it themselves. We are purging now what is not needed and this process can be filled under any word one wish to call it. But something is happening. Personal salvation? not if our own connection to that which is providing us physical and spiritual nourishment for millenia is ruined and not if we can not recognise and respond (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88211-Revocation-of-agreements-Declaration-of-intent&p=1039725&viewfull=1#post1039725)to the other worldly/ other dimensionally matters surrounding this place at least inside ourselves. Ascension? - First comes first.

Blessings ~

Limor

[Morbid]

From about the last 6 months of 2011 this whole idea of a density shift has been
trumpeted with vigor and lots of enthusiastic expectation.
And then the wording changed to a 'vibrational' shift, or 'dimensional' shift but
the same expectation was there.
And people kept saying and so we somehow felt it must be true.

Then there was the whole 2012 thing. And the December 21st thing.
And there was supposed to be earth changes of collosal dimensions,
with continents sinking, and tectonic faults opening up, and pole reversals
and volcanoes off the coast of Africa.
Nothing happened. People were then saying 'oh right but maybe 2013'.
And then 2014 because of the dating errors, or something.

The shift and ascension was predicted by multiple people for Sept 2015.
Nothing happened.
And now 2016, people are still talking about a dimensional shift.
I'm slowly beginning to wonder if this is a hoax,
and if it is, who's getting the payoff ? How does this work ?

carrot on a stick.

during one of the ceremonies i been participating in september 2015 i distinctly felt an energy of awakening basking the whole planet. i felt human mass consciousness coming to terms that they were duped for thousands of years and now are able to see pass the veil of dark illusion. it was a eye watering feeling as images of genocide, environment, war, hatred etc passed through with following imprint of NEVER AGAIN.
times are changing and we are living in transition period as in now. no need to put dates on it as beyond this frequency time goes from an event to an event. time is just one of the mechanisms forging boundaries upon us. i say lets relax and enjoy the ride..

[Sunny-side-up]

We are walking through the gate towards the next level of our possibility.
We are not yet free from the old PTW realm yet, but getting there :)

We are continuously evolving, climbing (A good word for you there Bill)

We because of our greater connections with each other through: Technology and of mindfulness of will, are coaxing/ pushing the gate wider for more and more of us to go through!

We have all been working towards this from birth, that is why we are here and now doing, thinking, hoping, wishing for a higher, better density shift

We are also to impatient and don't really see how much better we all are, right here and now.

We are propping the ladder up, for more to climb, this is our point/position (In space and time), can't really use those definitions any more so)) in being here and now.

I know all my words above could be seen/read as the old Religious tricks of old IE Keep the faith and follow the path (Stay under our control you sheep)!

But really this is the path we all here wan't to be on, keep the faith that we are moving in the right (ous) direction, which up the: vib, density ladder.

I have a real deep felling that our path will speed up very soon, at a much greater rate then it has been from 2012 to here:sun:

[Redstar Kachina]

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[wnlight]

A coming density shift does not mean the we are off the hook for taking actions to help our planet Earth and to help ourselves. The shift will be an enabler for us to continue (more effectively) to confront and overcome the evil ways of a minority of humanity. It will not be like a scene from that old Cecil B. DeMille film where an agent of God goes from door to door smiting the first-born - except the Jews. No. We cannot reset on our 'laurels' and expect God to solve all our problems.

Yet, I get in dreams, in my meditations, in my gut that we are moving into a higher dimension level that will enable us to make a better wold for ourselves. We do not have to wait. It is starting now. We have to act.

[Sunny-side-up]

Hi Buddha's Palm, good reply :)



Everyone's posts contain some element of truth. In accordance with the law of thought as destiny, one's individual thinking will allow him/her to manifest one's own destiny. However, the manner in which destiny will manifest depends on what is agreed upon collectively.


We are on the verge of escalating the conflict in the Middle East:
Or their are those on Earth wishing for and creating an escalation, of conflict in the Middle East, I am not one

That is why I always emforcise no physical aggression mind and energy path. We need to get away from such ways of thinking, if we do think in such ways we are manifesting continued conflicts/negatives :(

[WhiteLove]

It's interesting to see that some find a density shift possible, others are more skeptical.

I have always been skeptical to "the event", I never believed any of the 2000, 2012, Mayan calendar stories and I have never bought into the dooms day conspiracies. I am not THAT kind of person, although yes I do think a sudden event could happen, I find it much much more likely that the ascension is a soft one, again because I theorize that things are accelerating and we are not suddenly at a sharp corner, therefore I think we will notice the signs much in advance.

My perspective that I share has overall quite little to do with the common concepts of ascension, although there are similarities. Yes I have been influenced by the outside, but mostly what I've experienced is within, so therefore the external stuff is kind of just a few hints/ideas part of the theory I've formed.

But over the years and especially over the last few years, I've had some incredible personal experiences - without any third party filters in between. It's as little "fact" "over here" as the earth experience is "fact" "over there". It's simply experience in creation. But what is different between the experience over here on this earth and the experience I had "over there", is that "over there" the truth was much more central and present in every way. So where my theories are coming from, is from a place of "great levels of truth". It must be causing a short circuit trying to wrap the mind around this when it has not been experienced. It is very difficult for me to put myself in those shoes at the moment, simply due to what I've gone through. But in order to try expand the topic a little - just an attempt - I'm going to share some ideas.

So based on what I've experienced, I've learned that creation is not bound by any limits or rules. In our human perspective, we think that there must be a counter weight to everything, that it is not possible that something has no limits. This is the first ingredient in my awakening process - coming to the realization that there is a human perspective and in that perspective there are truths relative to that perspective. I call it "relative truth". But then as you move passed the human earthly experience and experience another place where time, space and emotion is much less fixed to certain rules and conditions and especially when you expand beyond even that a little, so that you can understand the relationships between density, limitation and consciousness, it's at that point things really start to open up. You see, I went into an infinite process of limitation removal - I was able to experience that so that I could understand the contrast and the role that limitation has in the earthly human experience. But the essence of this message, the essence of what I learned from my experience, is one of truth. It's about the truth and it's about the role of the truth in creation. Truth shall set you free. That was the message. You see, all limitations you know, that are so stuck into your brain, into your thinking, into your perception of life and creation, all of that equals an absolute density level.

Can you remember a moment in your past when it felt like someone took something huge off of your shoulders. Let's say you thought something had got stolen from you and you found it at home. Or you thought someone had died and that person had not. It could be anything. Truth is like that. Emotions that have been held and have been lost, will be recalled. Here on earth we are walking around with all of the stuff that is still on our back. It could be things like thinking somebody is hurt from something you did and the truth is the person never got hurt. I mean it could really be anything, it could be living a life not being yourself. The combination of all of that and everything else building up your beliefs, thoughts, emotions in your consciousness, equals a certain "density" - a certain absolute truth value. Connected to that is a corresponding limitation value is my theory. What I experienced in, what I now believe was the "fourth density", was an existence with much much less of that weight, because I was at a place of peace. With that also came a level of profound truths that were rooted really down to the essence of me and my consciousness. And with all of that, came this incredible "knowing" and this incredible freedom in time, in thought, in emotion and in space. There was just a very short time lag in between my visions and what unfolded - I had reached a light density reality where peace was - everybody there knew that this was a place of peace - it was the truth and nothing could ever change it. With all of that profound presence of truth, came an enormous amounts of unlimitation within creation. It was a bit like blinking, and when you opened your eyes between every blink you now perceived the unfolding of a new highest dream of yours that fitted perfectly with everything else - so so incredibly emotional. It was as if creation all around you, was you expressing itself towards you, like you, and in the way you wanted it to. And most incredible of all was that I thought I was in heaven, when God really showed me that this place where I was, was like a rain drop in a river compared to what creation truly is like. You see, creation is like that. God is like that. Unconditional love is in its purest form like that. It is an infinitely great miracle without an ending to it!

So, when I am talking about a density shift, I am not thinking that it is a sudden event that will sweep through. But when I made the dimensional shift from fourth density, that was a total surprise, my root limitations - those I perceived where kind of like the legs holding my body in that experience - were shaken down to the ground by God, very suddenly. Therefore I know something like that can happen too. But when I wrote this post, it was coming more from a sense of feeling that things in my perception of things are now starting to contain some new kinds of energies, new kinds of insights that to me feel like some signs that we might actually be heading towards the "fourth density", in a soft way in terms of how the progress is. The trigger point of moving from that emotion to taking action and writing about it, was my excitement about the dreams that were all following along that "fourth density" theme. And so therefore I started theorizing that, what if we are actually in the process of slowly transitioning there, all of us...

[sunshaker]

I think we are heading towards a density shift

I think you may be right WhiteLove, I see them as universal expansions. Not "magic",
The Universe had to go through DIFFERENT PERIODS/SHIFTS, to make it so "life" could exist, The Universe is still changing, perhaps it is getting ready for what life changes into next.
Even though some "less enlightened" will see it as nonsense,

Yes we all know, "We have to do the real work, in the Moment", but there is nothing wrong with believing we have a Greater Purpose to existence, than live,work,die.

We have for so long, let others control our every moves, We are just game pieces to sacrifice by those who worship power(They have had centuries of practice).
But we are now in a fragile system, that could collapse at any moment,


Myself I believe these POSSIBLE earlier "density shifts" for want of a better word , may have been the catalyst for life/emotions/intelligence/language.

But even with these "shifts", We still had to come together has a people to progress/advance.

Perhaps the next shift will bring "World Wide Empathy".

We are already connecting more and more through our creations, "electrical devices", in a few years these "devices" will be implanted within us(our brains), We will then all be connected on intimate levels (direct access) to everyone and everything.
There will no longer be language barriers, The "People" will understand the "People", We will no longer be divided by the Elite or race/language/religion/, We will take back "Our Power".



But I do not believe there will be a "Major" shift/expansion until 31/12/3099(z172):sun:

All these "shifts/expansions" can be worked out through the extended periodic table, which contains every element and possible element, that makes up our universe.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BVeau9QI4-g/Vp97wOFX86I/AAAAAAAACoY/qXV5Y47BmMo/s320/old1TO%2BLgif.gif

http://alpha-omega-sunshaker.blogspot.co.uk/

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Thanks Whitelove, I’ve been thinking about this for a long time, pretty much forever. Seen so many ‘predictions’ come and go, with nothing ever happening. Since 1992, in fact. And even with the lack of any strong, physical, tangible evidence of any kind, I STILL believe in some sort of shift, or transfiguration, in Humanity’s future, and Earth’s.

I don’t doubt the infiltration of the alternative community with a Psyop, not for one moment, and that this ‘meme’ has been peddled for our distraction, and to feed us false hope. Possibly because they believe such a thing won’t and cannot happen. Yet why do I still believe it? Why does anyone?

Sorry for long post, but allow me to explain why, and if you can, hear me out...

First of all, I believe a ‘dimensional shift’, if you actually want to call it that, HAS happened before in Humanity’s past. It was called Atlantis. This is not a ‘fantasy’ idea, or a wild, silly theory. Atlantis was very real, I believe, and it fell, heavily and suddenly at the culmination of a long, turbulent period. Atlantis was a small, but highly advanced, segment of Humanity. An isolated experiment. But it was manipulated, and engineered to fall, and fail. Most importantly what resulted, afterwards, was a ‘downgrade’ in the mental, physical, and spiritual condition of Humans. Because of its greed, corruption, and numerous mistakes (and possibly an outside force as well working against it), Humanity regressed. Dimensionally, if you like, it down-shifted to operate in a thicker, slower reality (the reality we still live in today). It was dumbed down, perhaps deliberately, and devolved into polarity (away from the Divine Feminine). Humanity lost its many tremenous gifts, and found itself almost entirely cut-off (segregated) from higher spiritual awareness, from its collective Higher Self, and Source/Creator.

It forgot.

Cue the aftermath: 12,000 years of ignorance, struggle, and subconscious trauma. 12,000 of reincarnation, and turning endlessly on the wheel of Karma, with no escape.

This is what, in some respects, I can spiritually, intuitively, and subconsciously remember in my own soul. Many Atlantean souls are among us – even right here on Avalon. Perhaps we are here to right an ancient wrong? Perhaps, to help shepherd Humanity back to its original, uncorrupted, uncontaminated spiritual state. And the Earth too.

The point is, that if Humanity as a race can down-shift, which I believe it did, it can up-shift too. There ARE higher beings. There ARE higher dimensions, realities, densities of existence. And if you are someone who already believes this to be the case, why is the notion of Humanity one day attaining this state not believable?

As Bill said, the planet is very much in trouble. The very survival of the Human race is pretty much teetering on the edge of a knife, and there’s a lot of work ahead of us, an almost overwhelming, unbearable mountain of work to get done, if ever we are to turn it around! We really are living in the End Times, but I fear that in its present state of constant decline, Humanity will not turn it around, and will not survive the 21st century without some sort of fundamental shift. That is my personal opinion.

A dimensional shift may sound improbable and unrealistic to some, probably to many, but it is as equally improbable and unrealistic to hope that Humanity will ever actually wake up, fight back, and dig itself out of this mess. It just won’t - not with infinitely corrupt, war-mongering politicians in control. Not with the insane debt-slavery system, nor with our crooked, wealth hoarding, truth-supressing religious institutions, not to mention ever widening social divisions, endemic warfare, and worldwide environmental destruction. Then there is a steadily rising population all eating poisonous food, drinking poisonous water, and breathing poisonous air, and living in fear and disillusionment under a regime of never-ending lies and deception... The vast majority don’t have the awareness, much less the will, to do anything about changing this reality, and the dreadful state of the world. They are too busy managing the state of their own lives, and struggling to survive. TPTB have done a tremendous job at ensuring this is the case! Change will not happen. Nothing can, or will ever change, whilst they are in control.

Whilst ‘they’ are in control... That is the key phrase. If they were all kicked out tomorrow, we’d have a chance.

Maybe I’ve become a defeatist in my middle-age, but I see no other way, and no other hope for Humanity. The Status-Quo that the Powers That Be so enjoy, has lasted for centuries, for millennia. What makes anyone believe that it can be toppled, or even be slightly changed/improved, in our lifetimes, or even in our grand-children’s lifetimes? Revolution is not the answer, it simply will not work, because it’s been tried and tested before. It was put down and destroyed. It will always be put down and destroyed before it can gain any traction. Even if you could imagine, in an ideal world for example, 10 million people marching on Washington, you would never get 10 million people in reality, or even 1 million, wanting to participate. Because they’re too busy sleeping - or struggling to survive to have the time!

Some may well believe it’s just an idealistic dream that the only way out of this mess is some sort of abrupt, stunning shift, or awakening. I happen to believe it is an idealistic dream that any change can come about without it. The expansion of consciousness and free thinking, borne on a wave of new-age awareness - and the alternative media - is, in many respects, a Shift in of itself. Let us not forget that. And believing in such a Shift is not about sitting back and waiting for something to happen either. We have to midwife the potential of it into being, by living humble, forgiving lives, sharing love openly and unconditionally - and of course sharing information. I’m trying to do that right now, just by being on Avalon.

Small actions when added together can have a massive effect over time. This could be the trigger that finally begins to awaken Humanity. It may not prove to be enough by itself. I still believe in some sort of spiritual revelation-event in Earth’s future, and something that must happen soon (in this very century, while there is still a planet to save), something that will blow the dust out of everyone’s eyes, and off everyone’s souls, to up-shift them in a totally profound way.

As to how? An evolutionary spark, a natural evolutionary process, perhaps. All creatures, all organisms (including the Earth) change, from the greatest living thing to the very smallest: everything evolves, moves and improves, as it climbs the ladder of progression. Many open-minded people here will take it as a given that the Human soul is immortal, and comes from a higher realm. If you believe that, then you already believe in higher states of being. Is it any stretch to believe then, that there are Beings out there, in the Universe, that have achieved such a state of advancement, awareness, intelligence, and love, and that they exist and flourish in this higher state already? Many UFOs - those belonging to those higher beings - I believe are interdimensional in essence. These realities EXIST. Therefore I do not believe it’s an idealistic dream to believe that Humanity can one day attain this potential, at least in theory.


tl;dr
Whether it will happen in 1 million years, or just 1 hundred, isn’t perhaps the argument. I don’t see it as being just a possibility, but an inevitability. A shift in spiritual awareness will unfold, and Humanity will break into a new paradigm of consciousness and reality, along with a new understanding of the Universe and its place in that Universe. I believe that striving in this way into higher and ever higher expressions of reality is how existence itself works, and how races throughout the Universe evolve. In order to get that ball rolling here, on Earth (and I believe it is already underway) Humanity must learn to love unconditionally. That is the first step, and the last step. In fact, it is the only step.

[WhiteLove]

Star Mariner: Very good writing, you write like an author! I think you are balancing the topic in a human way with several very good points and with neutral and objective human perspectives. It is interesting to read everyone's thoughts on this. Some are super negative and think humanity is doomed, some think all we need to do is to take the power back... What I encourage people to try, is this: Choose your favorite artist that you love the most. Choose the favorite song by that artist that you love the most. Love it. Love it. Boom. Something that you thought was impossible was not. This will give you an idea of how de-coupled creation really is from limitation. If you truly love it unconditionally (which means that you truly love and that's it), it will seek you up and you will be amazed! There is a time lag yes, but I think that along this path, that time lag becomes shorter and shorter.

I really encourage everyone that if you think this does not matter, that this is just some "rubbish". I encourage you to try. When you find the connection and go: WOW, then that is an awakening step for you. The human mind thinks of it like some frequencies passing into the brain through the eyes and ears and that is it. No more no less. But those senses and what's behind it is in limitation. Beyond that limitation unfolds a whole different story - the truth - that which you cannot see (just yet), because you are blind (for now). This is to me what the density shift is all about, to move away from the current degree of limitations, to move away from the current false filtering by the senses. It is a process of learning to see again, learning to hear again and learning to feel again. The truth does all of that and with that the limitations are removed.

[Tyy1907]

I thank you for sharing all of this WhiteLove. It's like nectar for my soul. An important reminder that we are so much more than a flesh and blood person. I think I need to keep rereading your posts as they seem to soak in more and more. I'll share an experience I had a few years ago.
A few years ago I had a fight with the wife and ended up starting to walk home from somewhere that would have taken several hours to do. I'm not sure why my memory is so faded of this event but anyway somebody picked me up along the way. Cold and very down on myself, it seemed like they were sent for me. They brought me home. At home I fell apart. In my rational mind it seemed like a miracle as I knew almost nobody in the city I lived in. When I believed so strongly to the point of knowing that this was a total miracle I fell apart. I cried and cried. It was tears of overwhelming joy and realization. I couldn't come close to expressing the love that was welling up in me. All I could do was bawl. During this I kept thinking that this overwhelming love that I was feeling was so so minute in terms of the totality of it(God). That what I was feeling was not even a speck whatever it was a part of. And yet I was absolutely exploding with expression. The key to "unlocking" this flood of love I feel was in my acknowledgement that it was beyond coincidence.

[CD7]

From about the last 6 months of 2011 this whole idea of a density shift has been
trumpeted with vigor and lots of enthusiastic expectation.
And then the wording changed to a 'vibrational' shift, or 'dimensional' shift but
the same expectation was there.
And people kept saying and so we somehow felt it must be true.











Then there was the whole 2012 thing. And the December 21st thing.
And there was supposed to be earth changes of collosal dimensions,
with continents sinking, and tectonic faults opening up, and pole reversals
and volcanoes off the coast of Africa.
Nothing happened. People were then saying 'oh right but maybe 2013'.
And then 2014 because of the dating errors, or something.

The shift and ascension was predicted by multiple people for Sept 2015.
Nothing happened.
And now 2016, people are still talking about a dimensional shift.
I'm slowly beginning to wonder if this is a hoax,
and if it is, who's getting the payoff ? How does this work ?

Yes, to all the above!

(Meaning, this is nonsense injected into the alternative community that makes more rational people quietly close the door and tiptoe away.)

The payoff is to whoever has it in their interest to have the alternative community look like a bunch of space-case loony-tunes. That may offer some clues. :)

HOW this gets injected into the community is another question. Sometimes it's just pretty much one person, whose ideas get traction and are then quoted by a LOT of other people — till it becomes a broadly-accepted (and uncritically-examined) meme.

An example of this is the 21 Dec 2012 thing. I'd not call it a 'hoax', but it's nonsense, and always was. The date was widely promoted as being influential and significant by LSD-influenced Terence McKenna. Nothing that NASA (or genuine Mayan scholars!) could say made any difference.

There's quite a lot of other stuff that falls into that category... including (with apologies to WhiteLove, who always means well) "heading into another dimension". That's a near-meaningless statement, even when worded in a way such that the terms used have definitions.

I've always said that anyone who thinks that Planet Earth is on the verge of a massive, beneficial transition should go spend some time traveling in Africa or India. Or even Ecuador, where I live at the moment. Or maybe sail across the Pacific Ocean, much of which is close to being a dead zone.

The planet is in trouble, and so is the human race, and this is NOT NOT NOT going to suddenly, magically change just because we'd like it to.

We have to do real work, and that's the real challenge.

Much of what is in the alternative media (including threads like this — with apologies a second time) discourages us from bothering to lift a finger to do anything.

Because we hope (remember Obama, peddling hope? That's a real baited hook) — we HOPE there's going to be a magical solution. And there won't be.

Then ask... Cui bono? Who benefits?




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[ZooLife]

I believe any change begins imperceptively beneath the surface.

All can appear lost or nearly lost within one's perception but change is still occurring nevertheless.

The velocity in which things change occur within the parameters of perception and when it is believed that change needs to happen quicker is when it seems to happen even slower or almost not at all.

[enfoldedblue]

Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)



Quote Posted by zahra4me (here)
From about the last 6 months of 2011 this whole idea of a density shift has been
trumpeted with vigor and lots of enthusiastic expectation.
And then the wording changed to a 'vibrational' shift, or 'dimensional' shift but
the same expectation was there.
And people kept saying and so we somehow felt it must be true.











Then there was the whole 2012 thing. And the December 21st thing.
And there was supposed to be earth changes of collosal dimensions,
with continents sinking, and tectonic faults opening up, and pole reversals
and volcanoes off the coast of Africa.
Nothing happened. People were then saying 'oh right but maybe 2013'.
And then 2014 because of the dating errors, or something.

The shift and ascension was predicted by multiple people for Sept 2015.
Nothing happened.
And now 2016, people are still talking about a dimensional shift.
I'm slowly beginning to wonder if this is a hoax,
and if it is, who's getting the payoff ? How does this work ?
Yes, to all the above!

(Meaning, this is nonsense injected into the alternative community that makes more rational people quietly close the door and tiptoe away.)

The payoff is to whoever has it in their interest to have the alternative community look like a bunch of space-case loony-tunes. That may offer some clues.

HOW this gets injected into the community is another question. Sometimes it's just pretty much one person, whose ideas get traction and are then quoted by a LOT of other people — till it becomes a broadly-accepted (and uncritically-examined) meme.

An example of this is the 21 Dec 2012 thing. I'd not call it a 'hoax', but it's nonsense, and always was. The date was widely promoted as being influential and significant by LSD-influenced Terence McKenna. Nothing that NASA (or genuine Mayan scholars!) could say made any difference.

There's quite a lot of other stuff that falls into that category... including (with apologies to WhiteLove, who always means well) "heading into another dimension". That's a near-meaningless statement, even when worded in a way such that the terms used have definitions.

I've always said that anyone who thinks that Planet Earth is on the verge of a massive, beneficial transition should go spend some time traveling in Africa or India. Or even Ecuador, where I live at the moment. Or maybe sail across the Pacific Ocean, much of which is close to being a dead zone.

The planet is in trouble, and so is the human race, and this is NOT NOT NOT going to suddenly, magically change just because we'd like it to.

We have to do real work, and that's the real challenge.

Much of what is in the alternative media (including threads like this — with apologies a second time) discourages us from bothering to lift a finger to do anything.

Because we hope (remember Obama, peddling hope? That's a real baited hook) — we HOPE there's going to be a magical solution. And there won't be.

Then ask... Cui bono? Who benefits? LOL to some I understand this process may seem like the emperor's new clothes. But for those of us who are experiencing this process it is incredibly real and significant. Did I wake up one morning enlightened? No, unfortunately not. Instead I feel myself immersed in a slow transformational process that is at times overwhelming, at times daunting, at times exhilarating and magical. It is not about finding some bit of external information that gives one superpowers, instead it seems to be about looking within, facing and healing the darkness and discovering the innate gifts that have always been buried within. This path that I have found myself walking is NOT about sitting back and waiting to be swept away by magical sparkly energy, it is about learning to access and listen to inner knowing and wisdom, it is about acting on synchronicity, it is about re-connecting to community and environment. Following intuition and synchronicity has opened major doors for me and led me to places where my gifts can make a real difference in the world. For example when I risked looking like a fool by pointing out the time a message was sent (11:11) to a contact I barely knew, a dialogue was started that ultimately put me in a position where my weekly articles went from being seen by a couple dozen people, to a couple of million people. I also find myself meeting and sharing with others who find themselves on similar paths and I see powerful networks of people whose life has taken them on similar journeys connecting and starting to work together to bring change to their surroundings.

Robert Anton Wilson said that beliefs could act like keys... in that they allow people to access part of the mind that might not be able to be accessed without the belief. I like this way of looking at it. I don't try to pretend that I know exactly what this process is ... but I know that through being open to the possibility that it is real I have found myself involved in an unfolding process that feels divinely guided and deeply meaningful.

Ultimately I believe that ATM there are two forces at work... one that is a real, powerful movement that is gradually leading us actively towards a higher state of being; and one that has been purposely designed to discredit this movement by offering false hope, cultivating victim mentality and encouraging a passive, shallow approach.

We have to be careful not to fall into the trap, of those who want to keep us small, and throw the baby out with the bathwater!

[Innocent Warrior]

We have to be careful not to fall into the trap, of those who want to keep us small, and throw the baby out with the bathwater!

Yes, thank you for your post.

If 2012 really was a psyop (wouldn't surprise me) then it absolutely backfired on them. I knew it would be as it was, no end of the world, as it was portrayed in the movies, or any of that nonsense but I also recognised the opportunity offered by a moment with so much attention and energy focussed on it. For anyone who thinks nothing happened in that moment, I invite you to imagine thousands (maybe millions, who knows) of aware people, all plugged into the collective consciousness of humanity, all in quiet meditation, all focused on one same moment, with the intent to allow a shift into a new higher vibrational paradigm. Something happened alright and for people who participated in this collective moment of awareness and intent know the effects of that moment are very real and have been experiencing the effect ever since.

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

"I've always said that anyone who thinks that Planet Earth is on the verge of a massive, beneficial transition should go spend some time traveling in Africa or India. Or even Ecuador, where I live at the moment. Or maybe sail across the Pacific Ocean, much of which is close to being a dead zone."

No one has really addressed this important point. I do not doubt that for some, there is a sense of awakening, a general sense of lightening. However, the collective reality of the human consciousness on the planet is darkening.

[Bluegreen]

We have to be careful not to fall into the trap, of those who want to keep us small, and throw the baby out with the bathwater!

Yes, thank you for your post.

If 2012 really was a psyop (wouldn't surprise me) then it absolutely backfired on them. I knew it would be as it was, no end of the world, as it was portrayed in the movies, or any of that nonsense but I also recognised the opportunity offered by a moment with so much attention and energy focussed on it. For anyone who thinks nothing happened in that moment, I invite you to imagine thousands (maybe millions, who knows) of aware people, all plugged into the collective consciousness of humanity, all in quiet meditation, all focused on one same moment, with the intent to allow a shift into a new higher vibrational paradigm. Something happened alright and for people who participated in this collective moment of awareness and intent know the effects of that moment are very real and have been experiencing the effect ever since.

Thank you very much

I'm not getting into any spaceships
I'm not heading for any underground bunkers
I'm staying right here with my fellow humans Enlightened or Un it makes no difference
We will band together and be successful
I will see this happen or die trying
I PROMISE

yUQCmDfKFac

[triquetra]

This is a topic in need of discussion - not to argue if it's true or not, but to change the terms, once and for all.

What does everyone say about this idea?

We are heading towards a density shift IF we do the work here and now to bridge the gap from here to there.
Incredible things can happen IF we do not only think "this is something I must do on my own, to raise my own frequency, alone, and then go from there" but instead "I should reach out and learn from others, go inwards, and learn from there, mix it all together, AND then also share the fused knowledge back to others with humility as well"

The risk without balance is to have overly dystopian or utopian outlooks on reality. The truth is not just somewhere in the middle, more accurately it is on different terms altogether.

The truth is that we've been taught for so long to think in terms of black and white. Dualities and opposites, "it's one or it's the other". "I think it's the one, you think it's the other, we disagree". "We do not agree". Polarized thought is caked into so many of the western languages, we do not stop to wonder how that happened. How it was done using religion.

This is what needs to be exposed. Everyone holds some amount of the truth. Everyone loses a bit of what they truly meant to say when they take a leap of faith, of bravery, and try and communicate thoughts in these much more limited words. But we do it anyway, because for so many healthy human beings, there is a natural desire to reach out and share knowledge, and to be humble and know there is so much more to learn if we go out and find it.

Why don't we allow a place like Avalon to be different from all the other communities, because it strives to break away from all the old barriers and limitations, the old arguments, the spinning in circles saying "what if this, what if that", and never anything really coming of it except for more total forum posts and replies?

What does it *really mean* to be a place where spirituality and science meet?
There's nothing I want more than to inject a massive amount of pragmatic momentum into the pace here, to strive to find amicable consensus on a great many things, learn to look at things in abstract ways together like "it doesn't matter if A happened or B happened if we can agree it had effect X on society, which is what really matters" etc

Let's be the most pragmatic alternative community out there and set aside all the petty squabbles about insignificant things, and be ultra-realistic about this shift occurring only as a result of our hard work, both on our own and together, to lay down the bricks in the road of progressive alternative knowledge, to walk that road together and get to a place far away from the low vibrational meanderings of a totally different branch of humanity, the ones that pursued the frivolous pursuits like greed and power, instead of things like truth and love.

We do not need to blame ourselves for low vibrational entities ruining the world, except for letting them take power. But this is one way we can take the power back. We do not have the power of hypnosis of mass media, but little by little, we can increase the critical momentum of a mass drive away from all of the flashing lights and colors and superficial grabs at our attention, helping others to do the same, who help others, etc, etc, until it's painfully obvious that humanity is evolving in two directions simultaneously.

One will shift density, one will not... travelers will see this happen again and again, I promise it is true.

it is hard, so very hard to believe, but it is true. Maybe you would not find it out until you had passed on, but after that, you would be so glad to have done the work. Nobody reading this should think of giving up, the additional darkness of the past 15 years is all the more reason to pursue the light ahead...

[Wind]

One thing is for sure. There is a "shift" going on in the human culture and mindset. Our planet is reacting to our vibrations, thought affects matter and reality. What is going inside is always reflected outside. However, it is up to us to choose and to decide if we will evolve or perish as a race. Both options are on the table. I'll vote for (r)evolution, but it doesn't mean that there wouldn't be a lot of hard work ahead, because there most certainly will be. I think we will make it. Earth will become a better place to live after the time of transitioning.

[Redstar Kachina]

..........

[Hervé]

Hmmm... let me try a new recipe for this brew...

Here is something from another thread about real zombies (wondered about all these zombies movies coming out?)


I am seeking help or information for a friend of mine who has been seeing strange people/entities.
[...]
... he see`s what sounds like to me an imp or an elfish type of entity and this is while he is still fully awake, last night after taking his pills people started to walk through the walls of the room and a couple of them walked right through him. When he has seen the imp or elf creature, they are both aware of each other but last nights episode with the people walking in and out via the walls..the people didn't seem to be aware of him....
[...]

See?

These "parallel" density realms have always been there... you know, like the individuals who can communicate with the so-called "dead-dudes"... or Djinns... or "red devils"... the ones of which shaman of the world warn youngsters running into them: "Oh, they always say that..." (about being the masters of the world).

So, what's the real change?

That's one of perception!

More and more individuals are perceiving these other realms AND are communicating it over the World-Wide-Web... so that it's becoming a "normal" thing to experience...

Now, THAT's a real shift!

... of course, now, one wonders what one has been drinking or smoking, lately... you know... is it fluoridated, leaded and/or LSD laced waters?... Glyphosate/roundup tainted products of the vegetable kingdom... etc... long after one has wondered about blue rays spilling over from the center of some galaxy... see?

[jms2112]

What about the Law of One stuff? That would seem to support the density shift thing.

[Meggings]

This blog posting deals with shift and change in us and earth. Too lengthy to post all of it, here is the link: http://www.energeticsynthesis.com/index.php/resource-tools/blog-timeline-shift/2727-pure-genius

Some things Lisa Renee writes about here:

During this time, we may reach potent periods of fermentation of new ideas, illumination into different directions which allow our new era to take shape in the world. ... We live in a time of great corruption, fraud and greed, which are the antithesis of that which is needed to connect with the purity and genius of the soul.
...

We have seen many famous people leave the planet recently that held nodes of consciousness in the collective through their performances, art, music and creative spirit. It’s painful to see them go, as we feel we still need them to help manifest beauty and truth through their artistic and creative abilities. We all know that genius is accessed and created though the connection made with the Soul, and when the artist connects truthfully within themselves, the beauty of that inner spirit is made manifest through the artistic means of their medium.
...

Any time there are massive pinnacles of new frequency energy, there are exit points for many who are unable to sustain the new frequency in the physical form that they have. In these phases, people decide to leave the planet, especially when they are not participating with the task at hand as required by their ascending biologies. To understand this from a point of higher consciousness helps us to deal with this happening at this time.

...genius is accessed and created though the connection made with the Soul, and when the artist connects truthfully within themselves, the beauty of that inner spirit is made manifest through the artistic means of their medium. The access of Soul through art is unparalleled, as human beings, we thirst desperately for this contact and connection in the earth to again become whole. When an famous artist has been able to contact their soul and make it available to the masses, he/she becomes an object of adoration and a symbol of what we all know inside our heart, that we have been separated from our soul and higher consciousness. We are desperate to get it back. Some of these creative people have shown the masses how they found the way to contact their soul again and find expression for it. It is a task we all have the responsibility for now. We must find the contact inside of our heart and soul to help spread this nonverbal feeling within the omnipresent forces of love, back to our earth, allowing the reeducation for the humane value system to manifest creative expression and freedom for humanity.

[Constance]

...genius is accessed and created though the connection made with the Soul, and when the artist connects truthfully within themselves, the beauty of that inner spirit is made manifest through the artistic means of their medium. The access of Soul through art is unparalleled, as human beings, we thirst desperately for this contact and connection in the earth to again become whole. When an famous artist has been able to contact their soul and make it available to the masses, he/she becomes an object of adoration and a symbol of what we all know inside our heart, that we have been separated from our soul and higher consciousness. We are desperate to get it back. Some of these creative people have shown the masses how they found the way to contact their soul again and find expression for it. It is a task we all have the responsibility for now. We must find the contact inside of our heart and soul to help spread this nonverbal feeling within the omnipresent forces of love, back to our earth, allowing the reeducation for the humane value system to manifest creative expression and freedom for humanity.

This. Just this. :bowing:

[WhiteLove]

I thank you for sharing all of this WhiteLove. It's like nectar for my soul. An important reminder that we are so much more than a flesh and blood person. I think I need to keep rereading your posts as they seem to soak in more and more. I'll share an experience I had a few years ago.
A few years ago I had a fight with the wife and ended up starting to walk home from somewhere that would have taken several hours to do. I'm not sure why my memory is so faded of this event but anyway somebody picked me up along the way. Cold and very down on myself, it seemed like they were sent for me. They brought me home. At home I fell apart. In my rational mind it seemed like a miracle as I knew almost nobody in the city I lived in. When I believed so strongly to the point of knowing that this was a total miracle I fell apart. I cried and cried. It was tears of overwhelming joy and realization. I couldn't come close to expressing the love that was welling up in me. All I could do was bawl. During this I kept thinking that this overwhelming love that I was feeling was so so minute in terms of the totality of it(God). That what I was feeling was not even a speck whatever it was a part of. And yet I was absolutely exploding with expression. The key to "unlocking" this flood of love I feel was in my acknowledgement that it was beyond coincidence.

Very beautiful story, thank you so much for sharing your perspective!

[lunaflare]

Thanks for the posts
There seems to be one inevitability: we die; or in new-age-speak, our body-vehicle dies.
There are myriad views/perspectives/hypotheses as to what happens after "life". There is no certainty.
There is no certainty regarding the nature of dreams and their meaning. There is no certainty regarding what "happens" when we sleep.

There appears to be another certainty, regarding a principle called Cause and Effect.
But is it possible to predict the time lapse in between? I think not...

No matter how much we postulate, there does not seem to be any certainty apart from the reality that our body dies to this world.

Dimensional shift is a catch phrase, in my opinion. And ascension symptoms can be likened to the symptoms of menopause (and other conditions articulated by the medical community)....

But life does offer experiences that can transform- dreams, for example...
that can be shared with others (like this thread)..
Shifts are constant...like change...according to the forces around and within..

[triquetra]

There are myriad views/perspectives/hypotheses as to what happens after "life". There is no certainty.
There is no certainty regarding the nature of dreams and their meaning. There is no certainty regarding what "happens" when we sleep.


Regarding the former - there are vivid clues after going through an NDE. Communicating the experience, and what is learned after, is unfortunately very difficult. Not because we don't remember, but because words cannot describe it as well as they describe what goes on in the normal world. Language was not designed to describe NDEs, so it makes sense.

Regarding the latter - there are vivid clues once you have trained in meditation far enough to hold your consciousness while in very low brainwave frequency states - theta, the state of near-sleep, delta, the state of sleep, and even epsilon, a state below sleep for all but the deepest sleepers.

But again, what is discovered is not easily shared with verbal language. It is the most frustrating thing to want so badly to communicate these things and always feel every attempt is only marginally successful, but if what is learned seems so incredibly important to keep trying to communicate, what else can one do but to keep trying?

[Tyy1907]

There are myriad views/perspectives/hypotheses as to what happens after "life". There is no certainty.
There is no certainty regarding the nature of dreams and their meaning. There is no certainty regarding what "happens" when we sleep.


Regarding the former - there are vivid clues after going through an NDE. Communicating the experience, and what is learned after, is unfortunately very difficult. Not because we don't remember, but because words cannot describe it as well as they describe what goes on in the normal world. Language was not designed to describe NDEs, so it makes sense.

Regarding the latter - there are vivid clues once you have trained in meditation far enough to hold your consciousness while in very low brainwave frequency states - theta, the state of near-sleep, delta, the state of sleep, and even epsilon, a state below sleep for all but the deepest sleepers.

But again, what is discovered is not easily shared with verbal language. It is the most frustrating thing to want so badly to communicate these things and always feel every attempt is only marginally successful, but if what is learned seems so incredibly important to keep trying to communicate, what else can one do but to keep trying?

Verbal language is limited just like so many other things in the 3d. I think from there the mind to mind comes in. Communiacting images and feelings so nothing gets lost. Make of this what you will, but I read a blog the other day and this person is in contact with slightly higher dimensional people. To them there is no u or I. Only different parts of the whole. Their foundational sense of identity is completely different from ours. Consequently telepathy is totally natural to these beings.

[triquetra]

Yes exactly. I feel now as though I identify with those beings more than those for whom verbal exchange is the primary means of communication. It is true that telepathy (the exchange of frequency-based information) is no problem in that context.

But it's bridging the gap that is the difficult part, looking for ways to describe what that realm is like using these words.
It's probably just a matter of putting in the time to do the needed work - constructing posts that use a lot of symbolism and imagery, and one day also sound files, and then use words to "dance around the real intended communication", to evoke the quasi-telepathic communication in a way that kind of recreates what telepathy actually is from first principles.

In other words, it will be a matter of tracing the footsteps that we take from here to our own telepathic communication, because linear time is unraveling severely already and so there is no need to wait to take sneak peeks into the future in certain cases (such as this one).

In fact it is precisely this unraveling of time, and the additional abilities we gain to bring aspects of the "far future" into the "here and now" that will directly cause this shift.

[betoobig]

We, in our 3D arrogance, dont see the bigger force... Nor the bigger picture.
We were once free and since our slavery we had tryed to free our selves many times, resulting in a total reset by our keepers. But now, the bigger force, has taken the reset button away from them.
So we are now in a hellish world, now that we see, with lots of things to change. At the same time we are coming back to our natural state, 12 strands of DNA, from our actual 2% luminic gen.
So a bigger force is helping us right now and we, in our humbleness, must recognize it and enjoy it through love and compassion. Not easy though to let go.
Change that perspective and go with the flow we all here feel. That is a shift, a shift back.
Much love

[Scottoz]

hi Triquetra

"In fact it is precisely this unraveling of time, and the additional abilities we gain to bring aspects of the "far future" into the "here and now" that will directly cause this shift"

I would be interested to know more about this process if you have time. how quickly do you think it will happen before it becomes noticeable to most everyday people?

Cheers

Scott

[dim]

No matter how much we postulate, there does not seem to be any certainty apart from the reality that our body dies to this world.

and by doing so, creating a reality out of it, and indeed a very limiting one.
Works both ways, you see...

[triquetra]

"In fact it is precisely this unraveling of time, and the additional abilities we gain to bring aspects of the "far future" into the "here and now" that will directly cause this shift"

I would be interested to know more about this process, how quickly do you think it will happen before it becomes noticeable to most everyday people?

We didn't really know much of what the future was going to be like until the beginning of the industrial revolution, at which point science fiction became a thing almost instantly. At the beginning we had no real way of anchoring down a realistic timeline, but later on in this stage of civilization we began to see enough of the pattern to make a more accurate road map of the future.

This was always applied with a specific focus on science, but really, it's about as simple to do it with art and spirituality, you just apply the same sort of principles.

With a decent idea of how all three pillars of our experience will develop in the short term all the way to fairly long term, time really stops having the same meaning it once did.

In a random discussion the other day, we somehow stumbled across the process by which we would be soon evolving to post-verbal communication. Almost totally as a fluke, we uncovered all of the early critical steps that would allow us to make this transition, even if the whole transition might take as long as 1000 years.

Now, mapping the future in major ways as far as 1000 years ahead is something that really puts our original sense of time (this impermeable black slate perpetually just ahead of us, making us never quite sure of what will happen next) totally to shame.

Once you become quite certain of what will happen next, it has already happened. When you actualize on this notion, you will be bringing something that used to be more of an outlier (happening "further into the future") "backwards in time" so that it happens sooner than it would have otherwise.

If a lot of people begin doing this, we "win the game of tug of war" with the future and begin pulling the rope of everything that was going to happen more gradually back in time towards us, so that it all winds up happening much sooner than it would have otherwise.

Hopefully this explains it - how quickly this happens is precisely a function of whether or not this reality becomes noticeable to more and more people - but they won't even believe it or understand it without a basic primer amount of knowledge of these matters, at least enough to have pulled them out of the mass hypnosis currently still ongoing.

But more so now than ever - we each have the potential to become major catalysts for this effect, we can have a highly gravitational effect towards a surprisingly large amount of other people simply by doing what I've described above on our own, in small groups of like-minded individuals, and then to reinforce our persona with this updated definition of reality and allow the startling difference our accelerating persona has on everyone around us ever onward..