How Can People Stand Up Fight Back Against The Elites...

[apokalypse]

I was in a chat room with full of fellow people from my mother home country, one guy ask How to get people fight back against the Government? people like in China-N.Korea..ect are aware but they just not stand up and let these Controllers(TPTB-Government-Corporations..ect, call what ever want). in Western Countries like USA-Australia-Euro people fall asleep but with these Authoritarian countries, people are aware and accepted to be in controll...

simply i just don't how to answer that question, How To Get People stand up against the Elites?

[sandy]

Start with self efforts>>>>>stop complying to authority if it does not fit for you>>>>buy only necessities and stop consuming>>>>live simply and forget about keeping up with the Jones's>>>>>spend more time with nature>>>>turn off you TV>>>educate yourself as the internet is a live encyclopedia>>>>take responsibility for your life in all areas, physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually>>>find and be the UNIQUE BEING you are and stop following the herd>>>if more did this do you think the global controllers/elites would notice??

[waves]

Thank you for posing that question, I've thought about it a lot both in the bigger sense, and also what I could/should do in my own little sphere.

I suspect an answer is not small pockets of protest or violence hoping to triggering larger. And it's not asking anyone in power to please have a reasonable chat.

Every nook and cranny of every system - national and local, all military, all govt, all corporate, all nations... are all rotten to the core, are in cahoots, are serving themselves only, and at the top have technological weaponry to quell any threat of any kind whether mental or physical.

But there are 99% of us and 1% of them, albeit a mostly sound asleep 99%... and their system is neither any fun nor does not work without us.

I think the only starting point of 'some' changes is non-compliance, but it could only make small, temporary dents.

How to wake up and piss enough people off enough to take that risk, I don't know. It would take some huge unifying revelation which I don't think is going to happen, let alone the difficulty of suddenly finding trustworthy new leaders to replace the countless rotten ones that were exposed.... but still holding all the money.

That leaves giving up on 'fixing the world' and those who have woken up quit participating/complying by themselves - organizing, separating and creating a sovereign independent gathering/living space maybe. Over time, the difference in benefits would become clear and attract more participants for the right reasons.

Otherwise, I don't think there's any choice but to allow both the sick/depraved leaders and refusing-to-wake-up followers to live out the consequences of their choices, they don't feel they have anything to learn yet and it's really not our job to push people who are not ready, we should lead by example only.

[lizfrench]

Start with self efforts>>>>>stop complying to authority if it does not fit for you>>>>buy only necessities and stop consuming>>>>live simply and forget about keeping up with the Jones's>>>>>spend more time with nature>>>>turn off you TV>>>educate yourself as the internet is a live encyclopedia>>>>take responsibility for your life in all areas, physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually>>>find and be the UNIQUE BEING you are and stop following the herd>>>if more did this do you think the global controllers/elites would notice??

Couldn't have said it better Sandy! Just those alone would make a huge impact. Even though they look easy, they aren't necessarily, but they are a start...

[lizfrench]

Thank you for posing that question, I've thought about it a lot both in the bigger sense, and also what I could/should do in my own little sphere.

I suspect an answer is not small pockets of protest or violence hoping to triggering larger. And it's not asking anyone in power to please have a reasonable chat.

Every nook and cranny of every system - national and local, all military, all govt, all corporate, all nations... are all rotten to the core, are in cahoots, are serving themselves only, and at the top have technological weaponry to quell any threat of any kind whether mental or physical.

But there are 99% of us and 1% of them, albeit a mostly sound asleep 99%... and their system is neither any fun nor does not work without us.

I think the only starting point of 'some' changes is non-compliance, but it could only make small, temporary dents.

How to wake up and piss enough people off enough to take that risk, I don't know. It would take some huge unifying revelation which I don't think is going to happen, let alone the difficulty of suddenly finding trustworthy new leaders to replace the countless rotten ones that were exposed.... but still holding all the money.

That leaves giving up on 'fixing the world' and those who have woken up quit participating/complying by themselves - organizing, separating and creating a sovereign independent gathering/living space maybe. Over time, the difference in benefits would become clear and attract more participants for the right reasons.

Otherwise, I don't think there's any choice but to allow both the sick/depraved leaders and refusing-to-wake-up followers to live out the consequences of their choices, they don't feel they have anything to learn yet and it's really not our job to push people who are not ready, we should lead by example only.

Wow, you hit the nail right on the head for me. Just today I was voicing my frustrations (again) to my partner about those who refuse to wake up and the maniacal governments and what we can do, why are we here...and awake yet unable to wake up our own families. I like your response, "not our job to push people who are not ready, lead by example."

[Yetti]

Thanks Sandy, exelent answer YES, WE need to be the different, the raw models to follow. Answer to Apoc, use our unique and most powerful weapon, our consciousness. Think in a world ( and do it local )where the things happen as you like, imagine the banksters in jail, the lobbyist prosecuted, crocked cops expeld from the force, etc,, keep in mind those things all the time, and we will win! big time!

[apokalypse]

Just today I was voicing my frustrations (again) to my partner about those who refuse to wake up and the maniacal governments and what we can do, why are we here..."

i have many frustrations already and got tired right now...i have so many of that moment. i like what Sandy said it's Self Effort.

[Star Tsar]

The very first thing do to is to stop calling them Elite!

[Eram]

one guy ask How to get people fight back against the Government?....

simply i just don't how to answer that question, How To Get People stand up against the Elites?

Hi apokalypse,

I think that the best way to contribute to a better society is to become a (non violence) warrior of truth.

Freedom, equality, brotherhood and unity should be the motto to aim for and live by.

The targets of conquest should be (among others): the system of education, healthcare, politics, economics, business, science, religion and philosophy.



Well, all of this may sound a bit resplendent and foolish :bigsmile: , but I really think that this is the way to go.

Get involved! Change our society from within and bring light to places that have seen too little of it in recent history.

To do so, one has to set of on a path of total self transformation and never ending self education and spread this knowledge and energy in every place where one can wield influence.

[samildamach]

And of course help those who can and want to be awake.as a parent/grandparent I take an active roll in teaching them to think outside the box question everything.U don't need to talk conspiracy theories but awarness of your envirment switching of the news these things can help .and do you really want the next generation been left in the hands of the controllers.

[Bubu]

This question been ask here on avalon many times. Its probably the most talk about topic.

"but with these Authoritarian countries, people are aware and accepted to be in controll..."

I dont think people are really aware other wise they will be doing the right thing already perhaps they are half awake. Had a glance of the real truth but still in doubt. Since the problem is "not knowing" or being fooled the solution will be education. And the best way to educate is by example. So start doing the right thing yourself. Sandy made good points. Disobey the government, be yourself rather than be with the herd, love your fellow humans...

[Sunny-side-up]

Start with self efforts>>>>>stop complying to authority if it does not fit for you>>>>buy only necessities and stop consuming>>>>live simply and forget about keeping up with the Jones's>>>>>spend more time with nature>>>>turn off you TV>>>educate yourself as the internet is a live encyclopedia>>>>take responsibility for your life in all areas, physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually>>>find and be the UNIQUE BEING you are and stop following the herd>>>if more did this do you think the global controllers/elites would notice??

Couldn't have said it better Sandy! Just those alone would make a huge impact. Even though they look easy, they aren't necessarily, but they are a start...

Yes ill bump these answers above.:bounce:

One thing to not do is FIGHT in the physical sense, if you do you will be lost and right where they wan't you.
One thing to do, which is also very beneficial to yourself personally is:
Concentrate or raising you vibs and not let them get under you skin!

You know tink where you would like to be and use said tools to get there!
so
Spiritual, calm, peaceful, loving, metaphysical mass communicating caring new world with next to no violent thoughts or actions:)

In stead of their new world order which is of the opposite polarity :(

Don't copy them, or you will stay with them:sun:

[Lochinvar]

Don't pay tax (government use it to buy bombs to kill kids)

Don't register to vote (this is the biggest acquiescence. Government is the biggest killer in mankinds history bar none (hundreds of millions killed))

Here's how Larken Rose puts it;

"One of the main reasons why voting libertarian is silly: When even 10% of the population understands and embraces self-ownership and non-aggression, the empire can be IGNORED out of existence. Simple disobedience will do; actual resistance (while justified and probably helpful) wouldn't even be necessary. The control freaks have nowhere near the resources to forcibly subjugate 30,000,000 people who refuse to be ruled. Meanwhile, if that same 10% VOTE for freedom instead, they accomplish exactly nothing.".

[Unicorn]

Civil disobedience

[wnlight]

Civil disobedience requires being ready and able to accept the consequences. Take another look at Gandi's India. Very few people today would be ready or able to withstand the punishment that was payed out to the people of India in their struggles against the UK. Also, tptb today are much better adept at punishing dissenters. Weapons, bullets, and body bags have been distributed to all agencies of the USA corporate government. The MSM is trained to play down real dissent.

[Sunny-side-up]

Civil disobedience requires being ready and able to accept the consequences. Take another look at Gandi's India. Very few people today would be ready or able to withstand the punishment that was payed out to the people of India in their struggles against the UK. Also, tptb today are much better adept at punishing dissenters. Weapons, bullets, and body bags have been distributed to all agencies of the USA corporate government. The MSM is trained to play down real dissent.

Yes to the above there wnlight!
Another example of playing the game their way:
French revolution, yes tptw then physically lost their heads and oh so many otherwise good and peaceful people lost their lives,
but worse than that they degraded their own evolution and became sole stained with blood.

Did it all do much good?
the elite and yet more PTW are still in power :(

So we try make things hard for TPW now and push down that same trap of a path as many times before. They, TPTW have a turkey shoot at our expense, or just Neutron-Bomb us off the planet, or play the Zombie card all the while they languish in their purpose built underground strongholds, maybe even off world!

I have seen here in Avalon many times the words and an understanding that the PTW don't just do that anyway, because it will damage there energies in the universal law way, also if they did they wouldn't have us to feed off of!

They wan't us to push our own negative button, then they not to blame ha :(

So we need to keep awakening, connecting more good soles as we go, until we rise and leave them behind in lower D!

I'm not religious but some great words have come from them:
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you,
Turn the other cheek.
(Wise words)

Don't get me wrong, if it comes to it I will fight to protect, but still believe if I do that I will be lost to any great advancement in my soles evolution!

I am sick of them, the so called elite, we are better than them, don't do what they do, act/do what you would have your view of a new worlds peoples do/will do!

[Sunny-side-up]

As originally posted by breal in http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88437-Inventions-in-dreams :

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It works in this post!

[Curt]

Catherine Austin Fitts has some good suggestions for 'fighting' the elite.

It's basically this: don't feed the tapeworm.

Invest in local, home-grown companies in your own community. Work for them. Buy from them. Invest in them.

If you have an idea for a local business, start one. Form an investor group. Support each other.

Bank with locally owned co-op banks so that no money goes to Wall Street Banks. Don't invest in companies that send your dollars outside your community.

Run for local councils and local government, where you can push for transparency and work to keep your community self-sufficient.

Or support good local sheriffs and good local officials. Go to meetings, hold them accountable.

Work and think locally. Think in terms of taking personal responsibility.

Shun anyone who works for the beast, i.e., treat those working for Goldman Sachs as outcasts: don't be friends with them, don't date them: make them social pariahs.

Quit buying products that kill, poison or entrain you. The money spent on soda and the time spent watching TV is a massive investment of capital and time.

Re-invest that time and money into healthier activities, educating one's self, family and friends and getting healthy.

Buy and eat local organic food. Take charge of your health through good nutrition.

Take responsibility for one's own 'contribution' to the beast. Stop supporting it with purchases or the investment of time.

All of which is meant to grow one's personal heath, wealth and cut the beast out of the loop entirely- to reingineer local economies.

If you work for a company that supports the war machine, or supports the global financial system either directly or indirectly: don't.

Quit and do something else. Starve the tapeworm.

In her view, this is a good start.

It's essentially a peaceful, grass-roots, county by county revolution of enlightened people taking back control by being creative, flexible and by taking charge.

No White Dragons or secret gold stashes are going to save us.

Be an individual. Be sovereign. Use your potential.

[Morbid]

i personally fighting the debt slave system by going against the banks. i got most info from this incredible site:
www.getoutofdebtfree.org

forum:
www.getoutofdebtfree.org/forum/index.php

also this is worth watching:
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[TargeT]

Solution:

Cynd4AINc70

BUT, are you actually willing to do it?

when the rubber meets the road, few are.


Want a good example of what we are "up against" ?
watch this great film, it details how humans react to authority and how obedience is apparently our default mode.
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[lizfrench]

Catherine Austin Fitts has some good suggestions for 'fighting' the elite.

It's basically this: don't feed the tapeworm.

Invest in local, home-grown companies in your own community. Work for them. Buy from them. Invest in them.


If you have an idea for a local business, start one. Form an investor group. Support each other.

Bank with locally owned co-op banks so that no money goes to Wall Street Banks. Don't invest in companies that send your dollars outside your community.

Run for local councils and local government, where you can push for transparency and work to keep your community self-sufficient.

Or support good local sheriffs and good local officials. Go to meetings, hold them accountable.

Work and think locally. Think in terms of taking personal responsibility.

Shun anyone who works for the beast, i.e., treat those working for Goldman Sachs as outcasts: don't be friends with them, don't date them: make them social pariahs.

Quit buying products that kill, poison or entrain you. The money spent on soda and the time spent watching TV is a massive investment of capital and time.

Re-invest that time and money into healthier activities, educating one's self, family and friends and getting healthy.

Buy and eat local organic food. Take charge of your health through good nutrition.

Take responsibility for one's own 'contribution' to the beast. Stop supporting it with purchases or the investment of time.

All of which is meant to grow one's personal heath, wealth and cut the beast out of the loop entirely- to reingineer local economies.

If you work for a company that supports the war machine, or supports the global financial system either directly or indirectly: don't.

Quit and do something else. Starve the tapeworm.

In her view, this is a good start.

It's essentially a peaceful, grass-roots, county by county revolution of enlightened people taking back control by being creative, flexible and by taking charge.

No White Dragons or secret gold stashes are going to save us.

Be an individual. Be sovereign. Use your potential.


Printing this out and framing it! I am putting this on the fridge to look at daily, thank you Curt for getting us on back on task, life gets me preoccupied and I forget some of these very simple yet profound objectives.

[Constance]

Catherine Austin Fitts has some good suggestions for 'fighting' the elite.

It's basically this: don't feed the tapeworm.

Invest in local, home-grown companies in your own community. Work for them. Buy from them. Invest in them.

If you have an idea for a local business, start one. Form an investor group. Support each other.

Bank with locally owned co-op banks so that no money goes to Wall Street Banks. Don't invest in companies that send your dollars outside your community.

Run for local councils and local government, where you can push for transparency and work to keep your community self-sufficient.

Or support good local sheriffs and good local officials. Go to meetings, hold them accountable.

Work and think locally. Think in terms of taking personal responsibility.

Shun anyone who works for the beast, i.e., treat those working for Goldman Sachs as outcasts: don't be friends with them, don't date them: make them social pariahs.

Quit buying products that kill, poison or entrain you. The money spent on soda and the time spent watching TV is a massive investment of capital and time.

Re-invest that time and money into healthier activities, educating one's self, family and friends and getting healthy.

Buy and eat local organic food. Take charge of your health through good nutrition.

Take responsibility for one's own 'contribution' to the beast. Stop supporting it with purchases or the investment of time.

All of which is meant to grow one's personal heath, wealth and cut the beast out of the loop entirely- to reingineer local economies.

If you work for a company that supports the war machine, or supports the global financial system either directly or indirectly: don't.

Quit and do something else. Starve the tapeworm.

In her view, this is a good start.

It's essentially a peaceful, grass-roots, county by county revolution of enlightened people taking back control by being creative, flexible and by taking charge.

No White Dragons or secret gold stashes are going to save us.

Be an individual. Be sovereign. Use your potential.

Be daring enough to go beyond all who have come before us.
Totally boycott anything that is not for our upliftment and does not fulfil our highest potential.
Ask ourselves and each other about every little thing that makes up society, does this bring us unity or separation?
Does this bring us peace?
Does this inspire us to be better people?
Through our creativity, our dreams and our inherent potentials, work with each other, play with each other and through that, find out all the possibilities that do exist, find out what could potentially be in store for us and realise that many of our dreams can be practically realised as long as we do it together.
How do we do this...
Meggings provided a very big clue...

I pulled this from a post that Meggings made somewhere else...

Meggings, you delight my soul.



genius is accessed and created through the connection made with the Soul, and when the artist connects truthfully within themselves, the beauty of that inner spirit is made manifest through the artistic means of their medium. The access of Soul through art is unparalleled, as human beings, we thirst desperately for this contact and connection in the earth to again become whole. When a famous artist has been able to contact their soul and make it available to the masses, he/she becomes an object of adoration and a symbol of what we all know inside our heart, that we have been separated from our soul and higher consciousness. We are desperate to get it back. Some of these creative people have shown the masses how they found the way to contact their soul again and find expression for it. It is a task we all have the responsibility for now. We must find the contact inside of our heart and soul to help spread this nonverbal feeling within the omnipresent forces of love, back to our earth, allowing the re-education for the human value system to manifest creative expression and freedom for humanity.


with much love to you all,
Breal

P.S Thank you Sunny-Side-Up for redirecting that post for me. It is very relevant to this thread :heart:

[Sungazerer]

Practically I feel we can post information and opinion on comments in the MSM. I've been doing it for years, have been pre-moderated in the past, but the change in the last few years is incredible. So many people write with similar views these days. The google tax thing & BBC over 75 licence were clear examples where the comments were all about how corrupt our government is. I now use the term 'the most organised criminal gang in history', for that is exactly what they are criminals.

Peaceful non-compliance, it really is starting to change. Throwing stones etc does nothing, it is a house of cards and when enough people realise this they will be gone. And every opportunity I get when some billionaire (Soros, Gates etc etc) is described as a philanthropist please please please comment on how that is such a complete and absurd contradiction in terms.