Are chakras a system created by ETs?

[voices of silence]

Just curious?

[Rocky_Shorz]

yep...

ET magic is woven into most Hindu chants giving the ET hybrid leader control of followers energy...


it benefits them to teach followers to strengthen their internal energy which gives them more to work with.

long story, but hope this quick answer solves your suspicions...

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crop circle of the 7 Chakras

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blue dude sits with his legs crossed meditating a few feet over the chair when speaking with us, so I have no question as to ETs main belief.

Dreams have fit together many of the pieces...

[betoobig]

Very interesting question. I tryed to find another thread in which some members discussed this issue. Imo there are some natural vortex/chacras mixed with artificial ones. I can't prove what i am saying yet. Anyway our evolution is an inside job, you dont need your chacras to look whithin.
I also asked a channeled woman Marielalero, whom i liked to read but she answer me she will talk about chacras in future newsletters.... Still waiting...
I am very interested in w hat others have to say.
Much love Voices of Silence

[Jules]

Thank you for the red pill.... :happy dog:

[Carmody]

Since it's all immaterial, intensity of consciousness and reach tends to be the arbiter of reality.

"though I (whatever that is) walk (whatever that is) through (whatever that is) the valley (whatever that is) of steaming horsepuckey (whatever that is), I shall fear (whatever that is) no ephemeral fascist projections (whatever that is). "

('whatever that is' = unknown)

Down at the bottom, that's the best you've got. It's turtles all the way down, even according to science.

The only thing you DO have, or reflect as, is a minimal form of organized data, that self senses in a limited way.

That's it. Nothing else is provable. There are no facts of any kind except the fact that there are no facts.

Self sensing awareness paired with paradox, and that's all you've got.

The rest......... is just fidgeting and window dressing.

[Olam]

Here is a lady who does chakra removals...
I have been studying this for a while as I was wondering if I was going to have this done.
My friend did it with her and she mentions that its not life changing but her internal mind chatter is gone..
For me, constant mind chatter bothers me very much and if this procedure makes most of it go away then I say do it now!

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[ghostrider]

Creation is the creator of energy , ETs are just creatures of the Creation ... in ancient times they called themselves the creators of creation and the sons of heaven , men thought they we angels/ gods , while they were just human biengs further up the ladder of evolution ... ETs are not super human , the are just humans not born on earth , as the human form is the most common in the universe ... there are humans with wings , humans more fishlike , humans more reptoid like, and humans more birdlike ... they can be just as chaotic as us , needing to evolve , to learn , to grow , to make mistakes and gain important cognitions about life ...

[Buck]

:cake:brilliant


Since it's all immaterial, intensity of consciousness and reach tends to be the arbiter of reality.

"though I (whatever that is) walk (whatever that is) through (whatever that is) the valley (whatever that is) of steaming horsepuckey (whatever that is), I shall fear (whatever that is) no ephemeral fascist projections (whatever that is). "

('whatever that is' = unknown)

Down at the bottom, that's the best you've got. It's turtles all the way down, even according to science.

The only thing you DO have, or reflect as, is a minimal form of organized data, that self senses in a limited way.

That's it. Nothing else is provable. There are no facts of any kind except the fact that there are no facts.

Self sensing awareness paired with paradox, and that's all you've got.

The rest......... is just fidgeting and window dressing.

[Pam]

Here is a lady who does chakra removals...
I have been studying this for a while as I was wondering if I was going to have this done.
My friend did it with her and she mentions that its not life changing but her internal mind chatter is gone..
For me, constant mind chatter bothers me very much and if this procedure makes most of it go away then I say do it now!

m_lG1SyG7QA



I can't imagine that have your internal mind chatter removed would not be life changing, quite the opposite in fact.

If internal chatter was removed, in my assessment, that would mean that the ego is no longer functioning in a dominant capacity. Why would that happen if you had a chakra implant removed?

[Olam]

I don't know how that works.
All I can say is that my struggle to calm the mind and meditate in peace has been ongoing all my life really and so I am still looking for ways to do that and was checking if this is a possible solution.
It is very bad in my case, its either music in a loop or some conversation also in a loop.

[GloriousPoetry]

YES...........from personal experience it's a fragmented representation of who we are....it's an overlay program to keep us under the illusion that we have reached enlightenment.

[Sunny-side-up]

I don't know how that works.
All I can say is that my struggle to calm the mind and meditate in peace has been ongoing all my life really and so I am still looking for ways to do that and was checking if this is a possible solution.
It is very bad in my case, its either music in a loop or some conversation also in a loop.

I hope you find your quite mind Olam:sun:

[Rha S ananda]

are humans... ET's !? ;)


Here is a lady who does chakra removals...
-- no she does chakra-IMPLANTS removal... big difference...

http://www.energeticsynthesis.com/index.php/hgs/hgs-alien-implant-module
http://energeticdownloads.com/links/HG-144-AIM-21-Mar-13.pdf ( goes with 12D Grid/templar and tracing it to where... it is, than the DN than the Dimensional band.

now your root chakra keeps your connected in this hologram. no chakras would mean your dead... ( disconnect root from earth.. and you die...)
(isnt bardoah properly done shutting down chakra 1 than 2 etc upto 6 than turn into orb and pop our a crown?

now there is this other dark(HIStory) guy around called George Andre Kavassilas (rays: 1-6-7) i think (7 rays readings info via Jay Pee wolfspiritradio)
excerpt quote-self on a blog 2013:

also the earth APIN grid, is directly linked to your body chakra template. this distortion in say node2 means distortion in body node2. eventually one has to disconnect that energy system from ones own being. depending on your path. (thats why i dont like george kavalavalis as hhe just sweettalks.. and no howto.. so useless. and deceptive he also is,, but he claims he already got no chakra system active no more… his words. not mine.. ;d )

so he;s a plant... or a chameleon... as james horak one time said/wrote very well in priv Skype convo that came up alongside.

so with out the APIN system one would not be able to hold a body/morphogenetic-field on the planet... at al in this holographic reality.. in DN1 D3.
thus it sustains the beings and gives them support... to heal (though planetary grid/distortions effect the human body also thus much work was on planetary level #KS / FT)

now do many chakra's have implants and distrotions yes, incl pineal (, or distract folks into open your heart sweet talk (with an unprotected field...) heart chakra D4 astral.... sigh

i say "Georgie boy" still have his charkas alive and well. and same also active auricfield.... maybe he can do a aura photo to show....

or a full bodysnatch-possesion would be possible to than claim no active.. chakra's aka walking death.. ;)


ok coffee time~
:wizard:

[terragunn]

Chakras are energetic overlays (consolidated separations of pre-existent Source energy) that correspond with the Artificial Consciousness (A.C.) overlays of the seven primary archon/aeon/spheres/planes of the hebdomad – hellish/heavenly planes, external of Source reality, which exist above and below the material plane.

[BlueMuffin]

I've oft asked this question myself, and while there's no absolute way to prove otherwise my current standing on the issue is that they are non-existent. I once knew of a practitioner that utilized certain sounds & colors for corresponding chakras determined by applied Kinesiology. Supposedly this had a balancing effect. While there are many effective energetic testing methods and using the body as biofeedback mechanism is viable practice, as soon as you get into the more subtle realms of our being it's quite possible to get a response simply by the fact you believe it to be so.

Energy meridians are very real, easily interacted with through acupuncture and a variety of other confirmation tools such as electronic biofeedback equipment . The actual energetic biofield can be captured with Kirlian photography, which is a most interesting practice that involves no light whatsoever. Other photographic methods have been developed that supposedly illuminate our biofield, some of which come into question of their legitimacy. Despite all this, Chakras never seem to show up whatsoever.

[Rocky_Shorz]

an energy generator feeding energy to who is the important part of the chanting.

the channeling meeting played what I call tones for the medium to connect beyond, it is like sound signatures for each of us and searching the right sound allows the psychic connection...

eyes closed a loop appeared and I put my hand through it, suddenly eyes still closed, racing across the universe passing stars in a blur, then I stopped in front of me, 3 light beings as surprised about meeting me, as I them...

then I was woken, so can tell no more...

is this channeling, or a meeting with intelligence far beyond our own?

is their races DNA in mine and that's why we are able to communicate?

what if they started speaking giving a message to return with?

so many questions unanswered, but they are there, and is it so bad?

I have never heard another Channel describe this type of meeting.

X-files is being aired to expose the public to deep secrets about to be revealed...

what is coming...

and you want me to what? cross my legs and think of nothing for an hour? riiiight...

[voices of silence]

sorry lost my train of thought

[Joey]

Wat I came to understand is that the Gods referred to in the Bible are in fact psychopathic aliëns with veeeery advanced technology. This technology is able to manipulate the energy body and thus consciousness of the humans. A book which shows this bluntly is 'The eye of Ra' by Truman Cash. He is a abductee and a past life researcher. He has gone in debt of this material. Another great book is Behold a Pale horse.

Another thing which I came to understand is that the human genome is genetically manipulated by our 'Gods' (read psychopathic aliëns). Look in the works of zecharia sitchin and Lloyd Pye for a well detailed account of this. The only thing is, is that in these tablets they claim to be our creators, which they are not. They are our manipulators and manipulated the human DNA in order to create a slave race. In order to find more about this, check the work of Juliet and Jiva Carter and their Template Ceremonies.

This results in degenerated human beings whit a false god-matrix in a synthetic matrix paradigm. We are literaly being used as energy devices and our emotions are harvested by these beings and entities. In fact they are parasites sucking op our life-force and the life-force of the planet. We are their chicken farm.

With this framework in mind I do not think that the chakra's are implants. They are simply not fully active and distorted according to our orgininal blueprint. They do manipulate our chakra's in order to harvest energy and distort our energetic bodies. This they do with implants of all sorts.

[doetem]

I would say ETs, yes, but not the green beings we all think of (atleast i dont think so)
I believe its something the soul is embedded with as an expression in a body. Human body.

You are ET :popcorn:

[Clear Light]

Are chakras a system created by ETs? Just curious?

Oh, with the implication being Humans are a creation of some ET somewhere ? Nah !

My "2 cents" is that our subtle energy body chakra system is like a more refined "body" than our typical "gross" body, in that via various spiritual "practices" we can kind of "let go" of the "physical" body and align our consciousness at a higher "frequency band" (so-to-speak) with the energy body :)

[PurpleLama]

The energy centers in the body do exactly corrospond with the glands of the endocrine system.

[bettye198]

That is a worthy question since the ET involvement with our DNA strands and the movement of ego, subconscious and superconscious state was also their doing. The earlier humans had the luxury of not dreaming, I have read, because they had no divisions. Which makes sense. We dream partially because we are trying to resolve unresolved issues. The chakras are affiliated with the endocrine centers so I want to say that of course is part of our biologic and the colors ( like the rainbow) are attached to those centers. How much did the ET's dicker with our biologic? That is for us to know one day.

[Ultima Thule]

Playing devils advocate here: the question (for the most of the humanity) is whether a system of things - the chakras - that can't really be substantiated is created by entities that for most of humanity can't be substantiated and nowadays popularly removed by people of which the results can't really be substantiated?

UT

[Constance]

I don't know how that works.
All I can say is that my struggle to calm the mind and meditate in peace has been ongoing all my life really and so I am still looking for ways to do that and was checking if this is a possible solution.
It is very bad in my case, its either music in a loop or some conversation also in a loop.

Hi Olam,
please p.m me if you see this because I have an answer for you. It is connected with the breath.

[Ikarusion]

maybe im a bit ignorant because most of my knowledge on chakras is theoretical, but for me either answer would change nothing.
a more important question would be, how important or useful they actually are for me.

either way, they seem to be part of my natural makeup.
maybe we are fully created by extraterrestrial beings. that would make the previous question even more useless.

so what? just use and be happy with what you got.

[Olam]

I don't know how that works.
All I can say is that my struggle to calm the mind and meditate in peace has been ongoing all my life really and so I am still looking for ways to do that and was checking if this is a possible solution.
It is very bad in my case, its either music in a loop or some conversation also in a loop.

Hi Olam,
please p.m me if you see this because I have an answer for you. It is connected with the breath.

Well I have worked with the breath in many ways, but still I will contact you ..!
Not now though, in about 5 days when I finish my master cleanse which is kind of difficult right now..
thanks!

[GloriousPoetry]

Rha S ananda......I'm very grateful for George Kavassilas' work regarding the Chakra system. In 2004 I had an intense kundalini experience that last 4 months and felt this cosmic energy run through my body piercing my spine and every chakra in my body. It was a very traumatic experience. ....feeling a presence of energy on the left side of me and feeling every emotion to a magnified level that was not natural. Towards the end of the 4 months I had colorful rings emanating from my right side and I remember thinking of the planet saturn.
During that time of my life I was doing a lot of yoga and I had the new age community reassuring me that the release of my kundalini was a blessing.......it felt the opposite to me......an invasive demonic energy not natural to my body.
In 2013 I ran into George Kavassilas' book and when I read his chapter on kundalini and the Chakra system being a synthetic program linked to the planet Saturn...I knew this matched my experience of 2004. Saturn is a planet used as a broadcasting location for undesirable entities to suck energy from us through this synthetic program known as the chakra system.
Today I don't feel my chakras anymore and made it a point to recite my declaration of being a free and sovereign soul. What I do feel today is a powerful flutter of energy in my chest area.....a natural energy that does not overwhelm me or blind me......it feels like my natural makeup.
I have only shared this information with one person in the new age movement since I know most of them reject my perspective since they have invested so many years in this synthetic program. I feel the yoga community is not ready for this information and the only reason I shared this perspective with that someone is because that someone who is a yoga teacher is my twin soul.
There is really no sugar coating in what George Kavassilas has to say in his book or his interviews . I understand why he pisses off the new age community.

[betoobig]

Rha S ananda......I'm very grateful for George Kavassilas' work regarding the Chakra system. In 2004 I had an intense kundalini experience that last 4 months and felt this cosmic energy run through my body piercing my spine and every chakra in my body. It was a very traumatic experience. ....feeling a presence of energy on the left side of me and feeling every emotion to a magnified level that was not natural. Towards the end of the 4 months I had colorful rings emanating from my right side and I intuitively remember thinking of the planet saturn.
During that time of my life I was doing a lot of yoga and I had the new age community reassuring me that the release of my kundalini was a bessing.......it felt the opposite to me......an invasive demonic energy not natural to my body.
In 2013 I ran into George Kavassilas' book and when I read his chapter on kundalini and the Chakra system being a synthetic program linked to the planet Saturn...I knew this matched my experience of 2004. Saturn is a planet used as a broadcasting location for undesirable entities to suck energy from us through this synthetic program known as the chakra system.
Today I don't feel my chakras anymore and made it a point to recite my declaration of being a free and sovereign soul. What I do feel today is a powerful flutter of energy in my chest area.....a natural energy that does not overwhelm me or blind me......it feels like my natural makeup.
I have only shared this information to one person in the new age movement since I know most of them reject my perspective since they have invested so many years in this synthetic program. I feel the yoga community is not ready for this information and the only reason I shared this perspective with that someone is because that someone who is a yoga teacher is my twin soul.
There is really no sugar coating in what George Kavassilas has to say in his book or most of his interviews . I understand why he pisses of the new age community.
Thanks so much for sharing here. Your experience clarifies everything to me.
It is known every single cell has a vortex, everyorgan has one, thus our body should have one not six. Solar plexus could be the real one and the other implants. I said this before, enlightment is a trip inside no chackras requiered.
Much love

[TraineeHuman]

There's quite a lot of misunderstanding about what the system of chakras is and what role it plays in our development. It's easy to miss the forest for the trees, so I'd like to describe some aspects of the forest, as I have experienced it. Just to linger at the trees level for a moment, though, let me say that, metaphorically speaking, each chakra has its own very distinctive internal "language" or "voice", for instance. (And the chakras are actually astral, i.e. fourth dimensional, but then so are your body's energy meridians per se.)

First, the only really important thing is the ascent of the consciousness, through your initially going deeply within, then mastering the ability to concentrate very intensely, then learning to watch and eventually still the workings of the ordinary mind, enabling the mind's waves to go quiet so that you can tune into subtler things. That ascent does include some physically felt energy as a byproduct. But in the end what's far more important than anything else is the higher consciousness, and even, indeed, your very own Divine consciousness, the "plug" to which (for you in the physical to join to) lies above your head. There is higher consciousness, and even Divine consciousness, "sleeping" in each of your chakras and indeed in each of your cells. But typically it's all bottled up there, and it needs to be liberated. If (partly) liberated (enough), there will be a kundalini flow or two up the spine (well, initially down the front of your body and partly down into the earth, but mostly then up the spine), so that the higher, then (hopefully) the Divine consciousness within your chakras and cells starts to join up with the already liberated but at first not "plugged into" higher and even Divine consciousness waiting above your head. The latter is infinite. It's not personal.

Eventually, we hope, your higher consciousness, and even your Divine consciousness, will remain "plugged in" all the time. At that point all your chakras will be "open", but basically that just means that the higher consciousness is then permanently integrated with your physical presence. Any particular chakra doesn't matter. When you wake up in the morning, you don't wake up each of your arms, and then your legs. You just wake the whole body up.

If you experience pain during a kundalini rising experience, that's simply because the purity and truthfulness of the kundalini energy is forcing you to face some of the negative energy that has up till now been hiding in you and pretending to be "normal".

Once such a connection has been established, you will have a release of many abilities, including psychic abilities -- but you need to learn how to handle them, how to "drive" with them.

[GloriousPoetry]

Trainee Human,
I wouldn't say I experienced pain during my kundalini experience. ......it was more of an array of overwhelming sensations and bizarre episodes......for instance seeing an xray of energy around people's aura. Also experiencing a sensation of sexual power emanating from that particular chakra. Also brain activity that was bizarre.....bizarre energy emanating from my hands.......at times throwing up because the energy was too overwhelming. After eating having this energy burn down the food I had just eaten. Throughout the 4 months feeling this presence of energy on my left side.
A bizarre sensation of melting and touching objects and briefly feeling the atoms or particles of the object. Everything felt magnified during those 4 months.
I don't doubt that special abilities can result from this type of experience however what is the price tag attached to it if it's a synthetic program.? I would rather have my spiritual autonomy.
In retrospect, today I believe that on a soul level I asked for this experience in order to trascend it and embrace my true soul power.

[Catsquotl]

I've removed mine once,
Had them reinstated by some deity according to someone who was in contact with that deity. Left the idea for a while...
Then removed them again.

From that experience and the research i've done on it I come to the conclusion that it doesn't matter.
Like anything in live we as human beings have the power to fill idea's with power.

If you believe Chakra's are a helpful tool, and you can use your creative power(imagination) to utilize the tool for health or other options, Go for it.
If you think they are compromised,infected,implanted.. Clean them...
If you are buying into the idea that ET's/gods may have implanted them to control you/feed off of you?
By all means remove them. I have not found that much negative side effects.

Had a few people take a psychic look when I first removed them. They saw them as being closed, tiny black buds..
A few said I would die, which hasn't happened yet.

Here's a thread on avalon about it from a few years ago
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77139-Let-s-Investigate-the-Truth-on-Chakras

anyway happy exploring..
With Love
Eelco

[GloriousPoetry]

Catsquoti,
We give power to ideas in search of the truth......so in it's true essence it does matter.
Isn't that the point of this forum.......to unveil the truth hidden from us.

[Catsquotl]

Catsquoti,
We give power to ideas in search of the truth......so in it's true essence it does matter.
Isn't that the point of this forum.......to unveil the truth hidden from us.

Well yes, in a way I guess. I used to be sure about that once...
That said Truth, I found is rather malleable.
In this case I'd say it will only matter if you are leaning towards accepting and using the chakra's.

There are so many questions you can ask. So many truths that can answer those questions.
I've come to the conclusion that many many questions aren't very useful.
I don't ask questions to find "The Truth" anymore.
I try to ask the questions that will help me, those around me and all beings to be more at peace, more happy.

Do chakra's help that goal? Well that depends on what you want to do with them. It also depends whether you view them as helpful or harmful.
We can empower the idea of chakra's, like we can empower spells, charms and rituals.

It works, and intent can make it flow for good and for harm..

Personally there's too much that doesn't ad up with regard to the chakra's. So no they are no longer part of my inquiries on my path.
I have no use for them, in fact they are a hindrance in that the idea of them spinning messes with the idea I have of my energy field.

With Love
Eelco

[GloriousPoetry]

With respect to not only the topic of the chakra system but our existence in this world saying that the truth is malleable is saying that the truth can be twisted without consequences and not asking questions is giving permission to let it happen. I understand that there may be pieces of truth in everything but it doesn't necessarily make the whole true. I guess I want the whole enchilada and not just pieces of something that may masquerade as truth. Being at peace and happy is one segment but not the big picture of our existence here and beyond.

[Catsquotl]

With respect to not only the topic of the chakra system but our existence in this world saying that the truth is malleable is saying that the truth can be twisted without consequences and not asking questions is giving permission to let it happen. I understand that there may be pieces of truth in everything but it doesn't necessarily make the whole true. I guess I want the whole enchilada and not just pieces of something that may masquerade as truth. Being at peace and happy is one segment but not the big picture of our existence here and beyond.

And this ties in to the OP how exactly?
Truth is malleable. You choose to misunderstand what I am saying, instead of asking, you assume to much my friend..

In the case of Chakra's I have found the truth malleable. Which means that from my perspective the can be used as tools. They can also be removed.
The same way I can use water and soap as a tool to clean my house, or smudge it with white sage.. Some people do both and that's fine too.

The point I was trying to convey is that after having fallen for the idea that the chakra are a tool used by gods/et's to control and feed on us. I have seemed to successfully close/remove them. depending on the belief system of the psychic's taking a look.

I also would suggest that if you are happily using the chakra's for personal growth and tasted some benefits, then do that and if you find the chakra as implants an idea that is just not true. Then don't treat it as such. Truth may hurt, but that should not mean you have to suffer.

My search has led me to a certain belief about the chakra's and I acted upon that.
I think the OP could do the same.

There are different views on the human energy system out there. Which people use to clean and cleanse there energy field with.
Depending on what makes you feel good, and which system yields the results you need/want.

None of them are needed to reach Nibbana though. A loving heart, a concentrated mind, And a well tuned discerning mind.

With Love
Eelco

[Enola]

I've become quite sensitive to my energy-system and feel my chakras quite well. Especially the solar plexus and the heart, the emotional centers.

I can feel it when a blockage is opened up. It's a tense, painful feeling. And when a block is released it feels like ripples of energy going out in a circle from my heart.

[GloriousPoetry]

Catsquotl,
I don't assume too much......you are too trusting to buy into psychics and research from others. After experiencing that infasive energy of kundalini for 4 months and experiencing every chakra to the max......in 2004 I made the mistake to seek outside sources who bought into the idea of this synthetic program as a powerful tool just to leave me more confused and dociled. Today I stand in my soul essence which is 100 percent organic......no need to sway back and forth about it. I wouldn't advise anyone to play with their chakras even if it brings them peace and love because that's another false layer added to this synthetic program.......I experienced it and it's another false carrot.........another way to make us passive and docile. I rather be a spiritual warrior standing in my soul's power. The truth is ugly sometimes.
There are definitely inorganic entities maneuvering this chakra system and they are brilliant at giving you the ride of your life .....they dazzle you with incredible tools and overload sensory. ....I remember melting into this state of extascy of love where I could feel the atoms or particles of objects.....my heart chakra was exploding.....wow!

[Catsquotl]

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