Aren't there something like 39 levels above top secret in the US government...

[AMystic3434]

You know that's where they keep the alien files. The president cant even get to the information because its on a need to know basis. What I want to know is who are the people in these positions what qualifies them. it irks me.

[mojo]

Hi, We might get a clue from Hillary's email corruption. The older title's I recall may have been changed for example Top Secret and above that Top Secret SAP, which is special access program. It makes senses if every secret program had an SAP at that level and less confusion.

[TargeT]

The classification system isn't purely hierarchical. For instance: TS-cleared personnel work on certain highly sensitive programs, known as Special Access Programs. The most common of these is TS/SCI, which stands for TS/Sensitive Compartmented Information... the SCI designation means that only those with "the need to know" know that information & no one else.

so there probably is a TS:SCI program that the president is not aware of nor allowed to access due to the lack of a "need to know" (which is decided by the security sections of the DoD).... so there's no need for "higher" levels due to compartmentalization.

[Agape]

You know that's where they keep the alien files. The president cant even get to the information because its on a need to know basis. What I want to know is who are the people in these positions what qualifies them. it irks me.

The problem is , even if you have , potentially , access to all files and information , you don't have the time and capacity to pay attention to it all at the same time and do the homework , and calculate all options ,
so in order to do that you may maximally hire a group of top notch scientists to keep comparing data , mj12 in another words ,
Jason society for example .

Another problem is, hiding anything in todays world is extraordinarily difficult, for long time , truth always surfaces .. through someone , or something else ..

Personally , I believe it's a job for scientists and thus oriented individuals to uncover better answers
and task for priests to speak the truth . And for all of us to live in Peace ...:raining:

( ..but I'm afraid there are still few billions of readers who can't really read , and of those who can some could whistle me out for being all from space terrorist to fanatic and utopian )


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[WhiteLove]

There could be several tens of security levels more, maybe even hundreds, we don't know. But what we can safely assume is that someone out there can see the whole structure, that is the scary part. And that must be a pretty different person (could also be an ET) looking at that structure from a very dark point of view.

[Lochinvar]

Classification of information is defined on the number of people that die should that info enter the public domain. Definitions like "grave loss of life" was/is used within the 5 eyes community (US, UK, CAN, NZ, AUS). NATO Top secret would be about one level higher than a domestic TS (more people involved). There wouldn't need to be "39" levels above. Only one level above NATO TS would include the whole world and would therefore be sufficient.

The Snowden paradox; classification is defined on the number of people that die should the info enter the public domain. If you release the info then people die; if nobody dies then it wasn't classified and you're not a whistleblower.

Be careful though because intelligence agencies dis-inform so some documents marked TS won't be TS. I've seen hundreds of docs marked TS that weren't TS. Mostly the same information channels that the famous "whistleblowers" think they are exposing.

The most sensitive info I've come across wasn't written down and therefore couldn't be hacked (by pc).

[Sunny-side-up]

Lochinvar: The most sensitive info I've come across wasn't written down and therefore couldn't be hacked (by pc).
Yes the Druids had a very good security system indeed:sun:

[conk]

Hasn't most of the more sensitive information been moved outside government circles and into the corporate security systems?