"Magnetic" water chargers

[Ted]

This whole project started off as a variation on John Milewski's "magnetic water (http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/magneticwater.htm)" chargers. I have a local source for magnetite and have made numerous chargers, which work quite well in my opinion.
Nevertheless, I got to thinking about the energetic properties of both the materials and shape, and came to the conclusion that it could work just as well in a solid form.
Milewski noticed that healing springs often ran through deposits of magnetite. He naturally deduced that there was some mechanism with magnetite which infused the water with healing properties. He thinks it has to do with magnetic monopoles generated by the sun.
I do know that water likes Magnetite. At the beach, all the sand will be dry except for the areas containing large quantities of magnetite. Those are usually damp.
Magnetite is a naturally occurring form of iron oxide, FE3O4. it is also known as loadstone when it has been naturally magnetized. It is found in various locations where mining has occured, or in my case, as part of beach sand.
Here is a picture of what I have been using:

http://i.imgur.com/7lQDJJx.jpg

The wand has a magnet in it and you can see how the sand is indeed magnetic. The wand is also how I extract the magnetite from the rest of the sand at the beach. These wands are easy to make and I can show anyone who is interested how to construct one.
Anyway, instead of pouring the magnetite in a container, I decided to mix it with Portland cement and form it into a free standing tube.
So, I built some tubes...

http://i.imgur.com/Eh7uK6c.jpg

I was experimenting with different proportions of sand to cement, which accounts for the difference in color. The bowl of soup you see in the foreground is a test base which is setting up in the mold. The tubes were designed to fit the 1 liter water bottle you see in the picture.
Here is a picture of the mold I used for the tubes.

http://i.imgur.com/OX0bihg.jpg

The outer acrylic tube has a seem so I can expand it and take off. I hold it together with big hose clamps during curing. I coat the inner tube with wax paper in order to get it out. I coated it with release agent on my first attempt and had to break the casting apart to get it out. The cement part of Portland cement works quite well on anything.
Milewski recommends at least three days of charging, so I build three tubes for a continuously rotating supply of water. When the bases are all poured and cured I can start testing...

The tubes and bases have a quartz crystal in each base. Each piece takes about 2 days to set up, so it takes a while to get everything made.

http://i.imgur.com/xosRIwT.jpg

When it comes to subtle energy, I have the sensitivity of a fence post. I usually design things based on what I have researched and some intuition. Nevertheless, I'm a scientific sort and like to have some sort of quantitative measurement to navigate by. So, I learned how to use a pendulum.
I had some initial doubts, but it seems to work! I used the pendulum to see if the tubes would work as intended, but they turned out to be rather weak as built. The quartz crystal in the base added a little, but the coil seems to add a lot more. I asked if a flat coil or a conical coil were better, and there seems to be no difference. However, it did indicate that the coil should be made of insulated wire, and should be oriented with the "right handed" winding side facing up.
As a result, I'm putting a flat coil on top of the base (at the bottom of the tube). I used "magnet wire" which has a very thin coating of insulation (used for wrapping electrical coils). When I put it all together this way I get very positive energy coming up through the tube.
Making a flat coil is not as easy as it might seem. The wire has a natural spring to it and likes to be in any other shape than flat and tight.
I made a jig to wind it (see below) and had to apply Crazy Glue to the wire as it was wound. I had to also apply wax to the inside surfaces of the jig so it wouldn't stick to that, (it did anyway!).
After a few attempts I finally got 3 usable coils.

http://i.imgur.com/n9NFL6o.jpg

Tesla liked to use flat coils, so maybe there is something about them other than their electrical properties...

After drinking the water for a couple of weeks, it has turned out pretty much the same as the original chargers produced.
The effects, as far as I can tell, are healing type effects. It affects skin, hair and nails most noticeably; skin softer, nails and hair grow faster, cuts heal quicker and it enhances my mood (I tend to get depressed).
Anyone who has problems with skin or hair might want to look into building or obtaining a few of these devices.

http://i.imgur.com/mVSAYmX.jpg

I also made that little orgonite cone in the picture. It has a conical coil, quarts crystal and a big old ball bearing on top of the coil. Tests out really good.
I have all kinds of fun in the garage!

Cheers,

Ted

[raregem]

I want to play in your garage !:happy dog:

[Ewan]

That was a good experiment Magnetman and great to see someone doing something like that. Not everyone, indeed I imagine few, would have the capacity to make examples like these though.

What about Neodymium magnets and the like? Alternative methods that perhaps anyone could try. I hope this thread sees lots of feedback.

[Ted]

The magnetite doesn't generate a magnetic field, as a regular magnet would. instead, it conducts it. Milewski states: "What I think is happening is that the magnetite which is a strong magnetic suscepter is concentrating the earth's magnetic fields into it's cylindrical shape and the shape effect, in turn, sets up a magnetic spiral vortex in the core of the cylinder in which the water is stored. This in turn activates the water with the magnetic energy". http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/magneticwater.htm
Milewski also did a lot of experiments with plants. He found that the Magnetite mixed in with the soil greatly improved growth. Phillip S. Callahan did a lot of research in paramagnetic soil and it's relationship to plant growth, which Milewski cites in his work. I have also read Callahan's books and he makes a compelling case.
Here is one of the plants Milewski grew by watering it with water from his charger:

http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/g21.jpg

http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/magnetite.htm


In that regard I took this concept a step further and decided to make some planters out of the same material I used for the chargers. I figured why precharge the water when you can do it all in one step.

http://i.imgur.com/ESspxNp.jpg

I planted Tulips in all four pots, with the same amount of soil. I'll be watering them all with the same amount of tap water and see what happens.
The two magnetite pots are different colors due to the curing process. I just made the one in the middle, which is still dark. In about a week it will lighten up.
I coated the original water chargers with some clear polyurethane, which brings out the natural color. I may also do that with the pots.

Ted

[Ted]

I want to play in your garage !:happy dog: I'd be a long drive from Texas, but you're welcome anytime. Anyone in the San Francisco Bay Area who's interested is also welcome.
Building molds and casting things is fairly easy. You can use all kinds of items around the house to make molds. I ordered some candle molds to make orgonite pieces in.
I used my wife's electric mixer to mix the portland cement and sand. It worked great, but she wasn't real happy about it. :nono: May have to buy her a new one.

[Sunny-side-up]

Great post Ted

I was just thinking, The magnetic material when mixed in the cement is pity much scattered isn't it?

If you made a much larger cylinder to which your first (Desired size) cylinder mold wen't into. The magnetic field coming off the larger outer mold might aligned the inner molds magnetic material, so the strands formed would be pointing outwards! Don't now if such an effect would be beneficial?

[Ted]

Great post Ted

I was just thinking, The magnetic material when mixed in the cement is pity much scattered isn't it?

If you made a much larger cylinder to which your first (Desired size) cylinder mold wen't into. The magnetic field coming off the larger outer mold might aligned the inner molds magnetic material, so the strands formed would be pointing outwards! Don't now if such an effect would be beneficial?

The material does not produce a magnetic field, it just conducts it. It is paramagnetic, much like mild steel. The thing is, you can put a bottle of water into a steel cylinder and not get the same effects as with magnetite. There appears to be something peculiar about this form of iron oxide.

[TargeT]

The material does not produce a magnetic field, it just conducts it. It is paramagnetic, much like mild steel. The thing is, you can put a bottle of water into a steel cylinder and not get the same effects as with magnetite. There appears to be something peculiar about this form of iron oxide.

any chance there are repeatable tests that show the magnetic "conductivity" enhancement? ?

in my mind this would be a very simple tests involving a magnetometer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetometer) & a control object.

[Ted]

The material does not produce a magnetic field, it just conducts it. It is paramagnetic, much like mild steel. The thing is, you can put a bottle of water into a steel cylinder and not get the same effects as with magnetite. There appears to be something peculiar about this form of iron oxide.

any chance there are repeatable tests that show the magnetic "conductivity" enhancement? ?

in my mind this would be a very simple tests involving a magnetometer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetometer) & a control object.

I don't think there is any magnetic conductivity enhancement, and I'm not entirely convinced it's the magnetic field causing the effect. There is some sort of affinity between magnetite and water which I don't pretend to fully understand. I know that a cylinder will concentrate energy in to the center, which is part of it.
As I mentioned above, I'm using a pendulum to determine some design considerations, and the energetic properties produced. It is not nearly as "scientific" as I would like, but I can't find any subtle energy meters on Ebay. I also have my own experience drinking this water which encourages my experiments.
My middle son is very sensitive to subtle energy, and he even commented on the water "liking" magnetite. He can feel and quantify the energy coming from orgonite, crystals and anything else for that matter (he didn't get it from me). I was just building these chargers last time he visited and I didn't get a chance to get his opinion on the final product.
I have done a fair amount of experimentation and research into the energetic properties of water. I've build devices to spin it through magnetic fields, polarize it through hydrolyzing it, and produced Browns gas to burn in my car. Not everything works as advertised, although I continue to be amazed at water's ability to conduct and contain energy of all sorts.
I never notice much effect by passing water through a magnetic field, then drinking it (and I drank a lot of it). That's why I'm a little leery of the magnetic field theory.

[TargeT]

I never notice much effect by passing water through a magnetic field, then drinking it (and I drank a lot of it). That's why I'm a little leery of the magnetic field theory.

It looks like the project took a bit of time to complete, it seems that some experimentation is definitely in order; if nothing else you might find a way to improve what you made... you're already doing it with the flowers in the containers you made (though that's a pretty limited number) growing next to the control group (regular pots).

Just a few little things like that, see if anything interesting pops up; you never know where you'll find something amazing. Everything is electrical in nature (and in Nature, haha) and you might be inducing some sort of small concentrater via geometry (just for ****s and gigles you should mix the golden ratio into you're pot design.. maybe the diameter is x1.6 the height (or the other way around), if nothing else it would be ascetically pleasing)

[Ted]

I never notice much effect by passing water through a magnetic field, then drinking it (and I drank a lot of it). That's why I'm a little leery of the magnetic field theory.

It looks like the project took a bit of time to complete, it seems that some experimentation is definitely in order; if nothing else you might find a way to improve what you made... you're already doing it with the flowers in the containers you made (though that's a pretty limited number) growing next to the control group (regular pots).

Just a few little things like that, see if anything interesting pops up; you never know where you'll find something amazing. Everything is electrical in nature (and in Nature, haha) and you might be inducing some sort of small concentrater via geometry (just for ****s and gigles you should mix the golden ratio into you're pot design.. maybe the diameter is x1.6 the height (or the other way around), if nothing else it would be ascetically pleasing)

I'm already changing the design of the chargers to a one piece. I learned from the pots how to include a bottom and still manage to get the center piece of the mold out (pulling doesn't work, it has to be pounded out).
I agree that everything is basically electric in nature. An orgone accumulator is nothing more than an electrical capacitor, having alternate layers of conductors and insulators. Orgonite works on the same principal IMHO.
I did include the coil in the base as an enhancement, and the golden ratio also occurred to me. However, I'm using standard size tubing and I felt it's more important to fit the water container properly, so a few compromises had to be made.
I originally put a coil around the outside of one of the tubes too, but it didn't make any discernible difference so I took it off.
I wish I was more sensitive to subtle energy like some folks are. My son can see peoples auras, and he works with crystals a lot, but he lives 500 miles away. I should probably find a local sensitive to collaborate with.
When I get the new form finished I'll post a step by step with pictures if anyone is interested.

Cheers,

Ted

[Ted]

I built the new mold today. This is the one for a one piece charger.
I bought two new pieces of 5 inch and 3 inch acrylic tubing. I cut the 5" outside piece to 12" long. Then I made a cut straight up the length so I can expand it when I remove it from the finished piece. You can see the cut in the picture. It looks a little jagged but it works fine. You can also see the base here which the tube fits on to.
The 3/8" pin is to hold the center tube up 1 inch so the bottom of the charger can form around it.

http://i.imgur.com/KRb2fJC.jpg

I put a solid piece of acrylic in the bottom of the center mold piece, with a hole to fit the pin (sorry about the blurry image)

http://i.imgur.com/APlvAiY.jpg

Those are all the pieces. Here are the steps to prepare a pour.
I've tried a lot of release (non stick) agents. For this type of material I've found that Vaseline works the best. Sand is pretty abrasive and will rub off anything thinner. So I coat any exposed surface with the stuff.
Even Vaseline isn't enough for the center tube, so I wrap it in wax paper. This allows easier extraction when the piece hardens up.

http://i.imgur.com/oxD7O0W.jpg

Once everything is coated, I assemble the mold and stick in a large stainless pot. Pouring the mix into the mold is a messy business and the pot contains the slop rather well.
Then it's time to mix up the soup. I measure out a little more sand than I need in a mixing bowl. Since it's beach sand I want to wash out as much salt as I can (salt weakens the cement bond). I take the bowl outside and stick a hose down to the bottom of the sand and run fresh water back up through it for a few minutes.
Once that's done it's time to add some portland cement and a little more water.
The wet sand is pretty thick and heavy, so I initially mix it with a big spoon. Once it's mixed pretty well, I use the beaters to get all the lumps out. I use approximately a 3 to 1 ratio of sand to cement. I also mix it to a fairly watery consistency, something like apple sauce. I find this consistency produces fewer air bubbles and flows better.

http://i.imgur.com/ug35Qi9.jpg

I use a small plastic cup to scoop out the mix and pour it into the mold. Once it's all filled up, I tap the form lightly with a screw driver to settle the sand and work out any bubbles. At this point some water starts to seep out of the form, which is expected and fine. The water also starts to puddle up at the top of the mold as the sand settles. I then pour in some more mix to displace the water (otherwise your finished piece will be shorter).

http://i.imgur.com/JjHEBjJ.jpg

Then we're done. let it harden for a couple of days and remove the form.
BTW, the center tube needs to be filled with sand before pouring, otherwise it wants to float up.

[Ted]

Well, I learned a couple of things. I had trouble getting the center piece out and wound up breaking the bottom plug piece while pounding it out.

http://i.imgur.com/ykowyb9.jpg

I also took the hose clamps off the outer shell and that allowed the casting to crack when the center piece was being removed.

http://i.imgur.com/jU7NDEn.jpg

It didn't crack all the way in half so I have a clamp holding it together. I'm hoping when it fully cures it might work. This stuff is fairly soft for a week or so.
The bottom of the casting came out well though. It has a little hole which can easily be patched, so the integral bottom will work fine.

http://i.imgur.com/c8TUSpg.jpg

I'm rebuilding the bottom of the center mold piece and adding a 3" steel washer to pound on. Maybe a little more wax paper would provide some more give too.
Stay tuned...

[Ted]

I fabricated a new bottom piece out of a 3" washer I had. I also put a new, larger pin in.

http://i.imgur.com/VGkPUxU.jpg

I also found a nice picture of a local creek I took several years ago. It happened to be on the CF card I stuck in the camera...
I wish I had a creek like this flowing through my backyard. Good healthy water to drink!

http://i.imgur.com/VS0aCWr.jpg

[Tyy1907]

I love stuff like this. Quite interesting.

I've been looking into building wood pyramids and I think I'm gonna run some experiments with those also. Bananas go bad too often in my house I'm gonna see about the preserving effects of having them inside a wood frame pyramid aligned to true north.

[Ted]

Pyramids are an interesting study, and building anything is fun. The great pyramids had some very interesting chambers at the top which consisted of layers of rock with open spaces between them. They struck me as resonant chambers which adds to the theory that they were some kind of energy device.
A good book is "Shape Power" by Dan Davidson. He did a lot of research into how shapes effect energy.
Let us know how the pyramid works with the bananas.
Cheers

[Ted]

I'm becoming more convinced that the energy imparted by these chargers is Orgone (life force energy by whichever name you prefer).
In that regard I decided to add an outer layer of regular mortar mix to the charger.

http://i.imgur.com/6Xk2fUE.jpg

Orgone accumulators have layers of metal and non metal. The theory is that the non metal layers accumulate the orgone and the metal layers conduct that accumulation. The flow goes toward the metal, so the metal layer is the interior most layer.
I've done this here with the mortar, which mostly consists of regular sand. Fiberglass is used as the non metal layer in many accumulators, which is nothing more than glass made from... sand.
You can see the two layers in the following picture:

http://i.imgur.com/0UVjA10.jpg

I'll make a few more of these then start testing them on my wife. She has some physical maladies which I hope these can improve.

Ted

[Ted]

The magic pendulum indicated that 5 days is the optimal duration for charging. This was a little disappointing (I was hoping for 3) since I need one charger per day of charging if I want to have a bottle per day. That means I'll have to build 5 chargers for a five day rotation, 10 chargers for both the wife an I to have daily water. I've got 2 done so far.
Anyway, I have a bit of a production line going now since the mold issues have been solved. The inside cylinder has to set for a couple of days before removing the form, but the mortar sets enough in 1 day to be removed. The nice part about it is that the mortar is still soft enough to sand and trim. I comes out fairly rough on the top, so you can actually carve the excess off with a knife. Plain portland cement with a little water makes a nice hole filler to smooth over an air bubble cavities. Gotta make 'em look pretty...

[Ted]

I have 5 built as of today. They still need some finishing, adding the coils and the rubber feet, but they should ready for testing next week.

http://i.imgur.com/IVtuF9k.jpg

I'm also trying a new method of extracting the center piece of the mold. I'm going to build a puller, instead of pounding it out with a hammer and a steel rod.
I had to redesign the center mold to include a threaded rod which is attached to the bottom washer

http://i.imgur.com/n6deHS2.jpg

I turned the end on my lathe to make a 1/2" pin. I also welded a 3/4" nut on to the washer.
Here is the assembly:

http://i.imgur.com/HVSuL8z.jpg

It then fits on the bottom of the acrylic tube with 3 screws. This should be strong enough to putt the tube out of the cylinder.

http://i.imgur.com/4C9PucU.jpg

I still need to build the puller, but that should be fairly simple. I'll post pics when its done.

Ted

[TargeT]

the magnetite

I kept wondering what this was... I think I've found out:

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Titanium?!

[Ted]

As far as I know magnetite is merely a form of iron oxide, Fe3 o4. I think they mentioned in the video that titanium was extracted from magnetite, but I don't know how that's possible. Alchemy? I'm no metallurgist so who knows.
Actually, any metal will work in this configuration according to Reich's research. You could use a steel pipe, surround it with fiberglass and keep doing that for as many layers as you have material for. The thing I like about magnetite sand is that you can get a lot of density in a relatively small package. The more density you have, the better it works. The sand also lends itself to be molded into any shape, so it's ideal for this application.
Cool video though, thanks!

[Ted]

I know you've all been on the edge of your seats just waiting to see the puller I made. What could possibly be more exciting.
I found an old wooden clothes hanger bar and cut it up for the supports. I also cut out two circles of wood with a hole in one big enough for the center mold piece, and the other with a hole big enough for the threaded rod. Screwed it all together and presto, a low tech puller.

http://i.imgur.com/s1CkvoA.jpg

You can see the center half way out in the above pic. This is so much more civilized than pounding the thing out. Just put a big old wrench on it and turn it out.

http://i.imgur.com/Px43kB0.jpg

Cheers,

Ted

[Ted]

I have the first 5 chargers built and charging water.

http://i.imgur.com/hrOlFvj.jpg

As you can see there are some black areas mottling the exterior. This is just some portland cement I used to fill in holes and other irregularities. I sprayed a coat of urethane on and it all went dark. It's purely cosmetic, but still looks like crap.
I may paint a light coat of watery cement all over the outside to make it look uniform.
Anyway, I have enough for 5 day water now. 3 day water in the single layer chargers has been pretty good, so I'm looking forward to see how the new stuff works.
I also read a book by James DeMeo, "The Orgone Accumulator Handbook". He outlines the general history of Reich's discovery and investigation of the Orgone. The effects experienced by people using accumulators is much the same as the effects of these chargers.
DeMeo also gives a lot of space in the book warning of the negative effects of most common household appliances: wifi, microwave ovens, fluorescent lights, TV's etc... He claims that these devices effect orgone negatively, which you then don't want to accumulate in your charger. He recommends sticking any type of accumulator out away from these devices, preferably in an outbuilding or barn, where it's dry and fresh air freely circulates.
Most of us don't live on a farm, so this may not be possible in many cases. So what do we do?
I have a theory I'm testing out. I've studied energy of many sorts for a long time. All forms of energy that I've come across have certain common characteristics. Energy has polarity and it spins when it propagates. Negative and positive electrical charges exhibit different properties and effects, as do north and south magnetic charges.
Perhaps our orgone has similar tendencies. Some guys who experiment with this type of energy have found that mixing many small coils with portland cement produces a compound which has different properties depending on which way the coils are wound (clockwise or counterclockwise). Could we be looking at DOR and beneficial orgone being manifested by a simple coil wound in a certain direction?
When I was building these chargers the magic pendulum was very adamant about having a coil in the bottom of these chargers and wound in a particular direction. I did this and all the chargers test out emanating beneficial energy, even under several florescent lights and close to other electrical devices.
I know that when energy enters a tube it will start to spin. Perhaps the coil starts it spinning in the "good" direction? That seem to be the case anyway, although further testing and study are required for any definite conclusions to be reached. Maybe we have found a way to turn Dor into the good stuff!

Cheers,

Ted

[Ted]

After drinking this water for a few weeks I am pleasantly surprised by it's effectiveness. I put 1 liter of it in my water bottle every day and drink it throughout the morning. The thing that struck me the most about
this water is that enhances my mood. This is significant for me since I've had an ongoing battle with depression for most of my adult life. That alone would sell me on this water, although the other health benefits are still present.
I realize that casting and molding is a rather complicated process which is beyond the capabilities of many people. Nevertheless, there are simpler ways of making this type of device which most people could accomplish. A length of steel pipe, wrapped with wool on the outside, satisfies the principals of orgone accumulation. The more mass you can incorporate into your charger the better, which is why I use a lot of sand in mine.
I would encourage people to experiment with this principal. Once you build a charger you will have an endless supply of health giving water to drink and benefit from. Life energy is free for the collecting!

[Ted]

Thought I'd do an update since I have some interesting things to pass along. Since I started making these things I've done a lot of reading about this type of energy. I read a couple of Reich's books, which I would highly recommend. Just finished "The Cancer Biopathy", which details his work with orgone and cancer patients. Reich had cancer all figured out and was on his way to publicizing a cure when he was arrested, thrown in jail and his books literally burned.
Anyway, I've been experimenting and have developed a water charger which only takes a day to fully charge a liter of water, instead of the five days my original chargers took.
It looks a little ungainly, but it works good. This unit is made completely of magnetite as I realized that this is the only material that really attracts the energy. The middle section is where the water is contained, which is also attached to the bottom section. the lid is identical to the bottom section, both being 6 inches tall by 6 inches in diameter.

http://i.imgur.com/vxHdKFm.jpg


I found that this energy forms a vertical helix, which transfers the energy collected by the lid and bottom piece into the middle where the water is. I discovered this when I had three chargers stacked vertically, and the top and bottom chargers weren't working so well. However, the middle charger was making really good water! Somehow it was robbing the energy from the top and bottom chargers and feeding it into the middle one. On a side note, I also found that when I charged three batteries in a charger, the middle battery would be fully charged and the ones on top and on the bottom would not be charged.
You may remember the experiment I did earlier in this thread with some Tulips. That particular setup didn't work worth beans, mainly because I didn't provide adequate drainage for the magnetite pots, and some heavy rain flooded the flowers. I took the bulbs out of the pots and set them aside, below a rose bush in my back yard. I forgot about them until I went out one day and noticed a curious thing on the rose bush. Right above each pot was a branch which had grown a bunch of little leaves above each pot. They were all about a quarter the size of normal leaves, but there was a lot of them.
Here is a couple of pictures I took of each spot on the branches where the pots were.

http://i.imgur.com/rQ3r5qY.jpg

Some of the little leaves are yellowing since I removed the pots, which were sitting on the brick right below. You can see the difference in size and quantity. In the above picture I also got a new shoot right in the middle of the area.
Here's the other branch:

http://i.imgur.com/TtaZeDh.jpg

This reinforced my conviction that this energy is emanating vertically from the cylinders.
I moved one of the pots closer to the base of the rose bush and within three weeks new shoots were growing above it quite well. I just recently moved the second pot next to it and planted a few seeds to see what happens.
As you can see, the plant seems very happy!

http://i.imgur.com/17qC3nM.jpg

I put those two plants in the clay pots last weekend. They have already grown considerably, mainly towards the pot with the seeds in it!
Anyway, I'm working on a new device which I'll post results for if anything interesting comes of it.

Cheers,

Ted