Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor

[Alberto e Daniela]

Dear friends at Avalon

we'd like to share with you our experience, after a year or so in contact with Simon Parkes and the Connecting Consciousness group created by him.

This is a warning to those who, like us, have seen in Simon very a serious and knowledgeable person, worthy of trust for a most delicate matter, such as identifying and removing entities, implants and programs of alien origin from our body and mind.

To make a long story short: with patience and a reasonable payment, you can get in contact with Simon, but do not expect him to keep his promises or to finish what he started.

Here is the story:

We are a couple, Daniela and Alberto. We are Italian, but have spent a few years in South America and recently have settled down in England.

We have been in search of the truth for the last twenty years or so, including several years spent in an esoteric school, which we eventually left, because of suspicious attitudes of the leader, who claimed to have ET contacts, but we suspect had actually been taken over by them.

Since then Daniela felt a heavy interference on her life by unknown forces, which probably are alien in nature. She sees small creatures or machines floating over her bed in the first moments upon waking up, which then disappear. She receives frequent psychic attacks, in the form of waves of desperation, or sadness, the kind which makes you tired of living. One night she saw herself teleported into a spaceship, in a half-dream state, and got a dizzy feeling. And much more ... including uncountable UFO sightings, and episodes of loss of memory.

A couple of years after leaving that esoteric group, upon discovering Simon’s activities and his claims about being able to help in such cases, we sought his help and booked consultations with him, which took place on Skype during the springtime of 2015.
We had a great start, four Skype video-conversations when we had a most positive impression about Simon and his work. It felt like we had found a long lost friend.

Simon said we had actually met a long time before, not on Earth. He also commented that we two, as a team, are a problem for the elite. His explanation of the symptoms Daniela experiences are that there may be an ongoing attack towards her, and that a program was installed in her, which erases her memory.

Big problems, and a worrying situation, so we expected his help to be at the same level.

The actual treatment had just begun when, in june 2015, while ending a Skype conversation, he told us we would talk again in a week.

To make a long story short, we never more heard from him, despite countless attempts to get in touch, even through his collaborators. The most we could get was a few words on a Skype chat, “will call you soon”, and then nothing happened. During this strange period we even met him personally on a lecture, when we had the weird feeling of a person without vibration. On that occasion, without showing any embarrassment, he gave us his phone number. Needles to say, our calls and SMS were never returned.

We came to know that several people who have been consulting with him were left with an unfinished treatment.

Of course we wonder what is the real goal he has: why taking on new cases when he can’t finished the pending ones? If we suppose he acts with intelligence towards a definite goal, than this is achieved when he get in contact with people and scans them, and asks them to concentrate on his image (as he does on his website as well in the procedure to remove entities).
In cases like ours, once this is done, he loses interest, and without a word of warning or explanation, he cuts the contact and moves on to connect to others.

This would not be the first episode we see, when a very good person is taken over, modified and used by beings of another level, to carry out actions on light workers: attract them with knowledge, penetrate their minds, or keep them stuck around cults, etc.


with love and light,
Alberto and Daniela

[Lifebringer]

More game? Glad you and others turned from man's games of deceit. Try that inner voice connection to God, praise him before asking him to remove the confusion and attacks. After that, recognize, when you need to purge stuff out, so good stuff can come in. It's really a high vibration time now, and I suspect the remaining defects are being purged through vibration/frequency removal(like with water or dirt/sand/salt. The vibrations rearrange DNA to normal again after tampering. I hope Avalonians survive as well as myself. I think we make a great team.

[Pam]

Thanks for sharing Alberto e Daniela. I am wondering if the bulk of payment for his services is payed up front? In other words, I am wondering if he lost interest after you payed him. I can't imagine anyone that is really offering that type of service that would not complete it has anything of true value to offer in the first place. What you described is blatant dishonesty.

It is so easy for someone to be dishonest in the type of work that Simon says he does. He takes very vulnerable people and claims he can fix them. There is no way to validate anything that he says he does. I can tell you one thing, if I paid someone for a service and they ignored me before completing the job then I know that something is very wrong.

[Ewan]

Thanks Alberto and Daniala, it is good that you share this story. My own personal encounter with Simon, (only attending one of his talks and brief chat), left me feeling something was not right. I elaborated on it elsewhere on the forum at the time but suffice to say when I first encountered him via youtube I listened with interest to everything i could find. After the talk I lost all interest in him, I think he is not what he claims to be without being able to concisely explain why.

[Matt P]

Thanks for sharing Alberto e Daniela. I am wondering if the bulk of payment for his services is payed up front? In other words, I am wondering if he lost interest after you payed him. I can't imagine anyone that is really offering that type of service that would not complete it has anything of true value to offer in the first place. What you described is blatant dishonesty.

It is so easy for someone to be dishonest in the type of work that Simon says he does. He takes very vulnerable people and claims he can fix them. There is no way to validate anything that he says he does. I can tell you one thing, if I paid someone for a service and they ignored me before completing the job then I know that something is very wrong.

A great lesson here. In my work as a contractor I can't tell you how many times I have had to fix jobs that were left unfinished because the client had paid for a service before it was finished and the contractor left. Never pay the full fee until the job is done. That tends to keep the service provider on the job until it's finished.

Matt

[OmeyocaN777]

An advice for psychic attacks......
Always remember it's about frequency/waves
Never get into the afraid mode, this is how they feed of us. Try to stay focus in your inner heart frequency tone (om helps), this is how you change their frequency and because they don't take energy, only they spend soon they'll gone. If for any reason you can't resonate with your heart frequency then you can try to be in "no reaction" state (like meditation), this also helps a lot. If you manage to do this, they'll never come back......
About Simon i can understand that he is overwhelmed. In the last interviews he said many times that he needs vacations to reconstruct his energy because in the months to come he'll need to be in full operation.
When you go to a healer always remember that the healer the most times show you the way to heal yourself, then the most work must be done after from youself and this is the right way....
Peace and Harmony

[meat suit]

maybe the original Simon has been replaced or reprogrammed....

[greybeard]

I am smiling.
Quite some time ago I was visited by a mod and told off/warned for saying that Simon was speaking c***. He is after all a member.
He had a lot of support from mods and members---seems that has waned over time.
Have to say joining Avalon does not, to my my mind, make one a member---there should be some interaction, particularly on varied subjects not just about "My story"
Being a member brings responsibility.

Chris

Ps Im saying the opening post and other comments, that have occurred over time on Simon's behaviour, leads one to have some doubt about what he says and his integrity

[Bill Ryan]

Thanks for sharing Alberto e Daniela. I am wondering if the bulk of payment for his services is payed up front? In other words, I am wondering if he lost interest after you payed him. I can't imagine anyone that is really offering that type of service that would not complete it has anything of true value to offer in the first place. What you described is blatant dishonesty.

It is so easy for someone to be dishonest in the type of work that Simon says he does. He takes very vulnerable people and claims he can fix them. There is no way to validate anything that he says he does. I can tell you one thing, if I paid someone for a service and they ignored me before completing the job then I know that something is very wrong.

A great lesson here. In my work as a contractor I can't tell you how many times I have had to fix jobs that were left unfinished because the client had paid for a service before it was finished and the contractor left. Never pay the full fee until the job is done. That tends to keep the service provider on the job until it's finished.

Matt


Yes. I wrote exactly the following to someone who knows Simon very well, drawing their attention to this thread:




Alberto e Daniela's post was careful and well-written, and reported their own experience without any nasty barbs. It's really up to Simon to deal with things like that, and if he's made any mistakes or dropped the ball with anyone, then he has to rectify that.

Because he's a public figure and has also charged money to clients he's offered to help, that puts this in a certain category that's not the same as trolls sniping at someone in the alternative media. Once you charge money and work with clients, then there are certain responsibilities that every therapist knows. And if those are breached, AND if one's a public figure as well, then one can expect public criticism (and warnings to others).

It's just like taking your car to garage. If the mechanic screws up, or botches a repair, or accepts a payment, says he'll do something, and then doesn't, you're liable to tell your friends to stay away from that guy.

Might not mean the mechanic is a bad person. Might just mean he's exhausted, disorganized and distracted. But from the clients' point of view, all they care about is their car repairs. :)

[marique3652]

Thanks for sharing Alberto e Daniela. I am wondering if the bulk of payment for his services is payed up front? In other words, I am wondering if he lost interest after you payed him. I can't imagine anyone that is really offering that type of service that would not complete it has anything of true value to offer in the first place. What you described is blatant dishonesty.

It is so easy for someone to be dishonest in the type of work that Simon says he does. He takes very vulnerable people and claims he can fix them. There is no way to validate anything that he says he does. I can tell you one thing, if I paid someone for a service and they ignored me before completing the job then I know that something is very wrong.

A great lesson here. In my work as a contractor I can't tell you how many times I have had to fix jobs that were left unfinished because the client had paid for a service before it was finished and the contractor left. Never pay the full fee until the job is done. That tends to keep the service provider on the job until it's finished.

Matt

I am currently in the posiiton of having paid for some work done around my yard in advance. Paid this person to trim back all the tree branches hanging over my fence and to put up a car port awning I had bought as a kit. He did trim back about half of the branches and said he would be back. I have been chasing him for a month now and he keeps saying "this upcoming weekend, but never comes and now not returning my many calls. I will have to take him to small claims court to get at least 3/4 of my money back. He seemed like a nice young man, even had a handiman card with his name and number. He said he did work for my down the street neighbor whom I do not know...told me to call them if I wanted but I did not bother. Now feeling like such a fool. So I totally agree with the advice of never paying the fee in advanced. Lesson learned!!!

[OmeyocaN777]

We must be careful here....
I don't see anywhere about money upfront, Alberto and Daniela speak only about promises and an unfinished treatment.
The only "crime" i see is that Simon never get back to them to apologise that he didn't find time......and this is understandable and no big deal for me.

[Carmody]

Thanks for sharing Alberto e Daniela. I am wondering if the bulk of payment for his services is payed up front? In other words, I am wondering if he lost interest after you payed him. I can't imagine anyone that is really offering that type of service that would not complete it has anything of true value to offer in the first place. What you described is blatant dishonesty.

It is so easy for someone to be dishonest in the type of work that Simon says he does. He takes very vulnerable people and claims he can fix them. There is no way to validate anything that he says he does. I can tell you one thing, if I paid someone for a service and they ignored me before completing the job then I know that something is very wrong.

A great lesson here. In my work as a contractor I can't tell you how many times I have had to fix jobs that were left unfinished because the client had paid for a service before it was finished and the contractor left. Never pay the full fee until the job is done. That tends to keep the service provider on the job until it's finished.

Matt

I am currently in the posiiton of having paid for some work done around my yard in advance. Paid this person to trim back all the tree branches hanging over my fence and to put up a car port awning I had bought as a kit. He did trim back about half of the branches and said he would be back. I have been chasing him for a month now and he keeps saying "this upcoming weekend, but never comes and now not returning my many calls. I will have to take him to small claims court to get at least 3/4 of my money back. He seemed like a nice young man, even had a handiman card with his name and number. He said he did work for my down the street neighbor whom I do not know...told me to call them if I wanted but I did not bother. Now feeling like such a fool. So I totally agree with the advice of never paying the fee in advanced. Lesson learned!!!

Professionals use some version of 50-40-10.

50% on contract signing.
40% on completion.
10% is held for finishing issues if they may arise.

Never go over 50% in advance. Always hold some back at the end to be sure the finishing work is done. Never over-pay so that the residual is worthless to the contractor. (ie, maybe a 15%-20% residual instead of 10%)

[mojo]

with patience and a reasonable payment

warning, warning Will Robinson.... Sorry that clicked in my brain from the TV sitcom Lost in Space, but my BS meter was going off in the very beginning when I asked please take a look at the Oregon footage and help to determine what species dealing with and if anything looks familiar. There was a promise but never did or reply. After the second post gave up but kept it to myself as there was a huge following and endorsements for him. Personally witnessed the insectoid type which some calling the Mantis, so felt any help would be welcome. I wonder did he every show any supporting evidence?

[barneythez]

Well, I might be guilty too. I contacted Simon for a possible online session, and I never got back to him. I guess what comes around, goes around.
I'll say this, if only half of what Simon says is true, then he's taught me a lot. He's been a paradime buster for me. Thank you Simon, for your service to humanity........sound familiar?

[wnlight]

I have paid 50% for a now languishing project here in Cuenca. I am learning that a 50% pre-payment is just a lot of money for booze. From now on, I will pre-pay no more than 20%. I was a professional until my retirement, and I always completed my contract. I will use this schedule.

20% on contract signing.
10% on 50% completion.
10% on 80% completion.
50% on completion - including any/all finishing issues that may arise.
Even the above schedule exposes me to some risk.
If they do not agree, I can find someone else.

[onawah]

Simon announced on one of the recent interviews with Jay Pee on Wolf Spirit Radio LK53efbW0Oo that he was feeling the pressure and was going to take some time off from work.
Someone high up in the Connecting Consciousness group who handled a lot of his communications had resigned, and I expect that may have had something to do with it...
I'm not making any excuses for Simon, but just contributing a little info that others may not have known.

[Morbid]

Alberto & Daniela, im not for or against Simon here, but dealing with clients did sometimes put me into an awkward situation even though I honestly didn’t mean any friction to take place. Im sorry for the experience you’ve had. maybe as its been mentioned before here it would be more beneficiary to look inside for the answers?
though i must admit that talking to Simon was like a catalyst for me to go forward and explore further realms of my being. The process was magical indeed! i didnt comprehend most messages he implemented into the conversation we had but listening the recording some time after reveals layers not understood prior. i thank him for unlocking something in me - not sure what exactly but it definitely helped alot.
take care and good luck ahead! Its all just an experience after all - we learn ether way..

[3(C)+me]

I do see a pattern here and elsewhere, a whistleblower/witness/or someone with the inside story, People listen and they have questions, they want to know more, they want a session, they want info from someone else, they are new or just getting it together, they don't know they can access this info from themselves.
They do actually have an inside line but it can't be accessed, too many doubts and misconceptions.
Too busy doing life, can't sit and be still.
The person of the moment gets swamped, some burn-out, some trolls, people get disappointed.
Sometimes it ends badly.

[onawah]

In this more recent video, Simon said at about 51 minutes in that he is remaining "on holiday" until March.
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So did Simon accept funds and then not deliver, or just not respond to requests for further assistance?

[Shannon]

I do not get a good feeling from him and don't know what to make of people looking to him for their own personal questions.

There are people out there not unlike peeping toms and busybodies ( all the way up to psychopaths )who get off being believed and trusted. They get access to everything you hold private and dear without the responsibility of having a relationship. They simply have control.

I see him as one of the problems in this community and I hope people stop paying attention to him. Your not worth his time obviously. Why give him yours?

[Alberto e Daniela]

Peterpam,

the sessions which did not take place were not paid. We don't have anything to blame on this side. Simon even said that he would not charge us for working with us personally face to face.
He really seemed a different person at the beginning.

[WhiteLove]

To be honest, I find Simon Parkes belongs to the same group as Corey Goode and Keshe. They all sit for hours telling the most amazing things and have absolutely no evidence to back it up. It is sci-fi.

[Alberto e Daniela]

Hi Onawah,

all the paid sessions took place as expected. No complaints about this.

The problem is that he found a serious situation, started a treatment, and promised to continue the following week, promised calling us on a specific date. It was not our request for further assistance: it was an ongoing treatment for a serious case, left in the middle.

That was in March 2015. Now we are in February 2016. Would you recommend a doctor who treats you this way?

[Alberto e Daniela]

An ongoing energetic attack can make your life miserable, and finding a real expert who can treat such problems seemed like a unique opportunity.
We are aware of the idea that every answer and solution is within ourselves, and believe that our inner self will sometimes project that answer in the manifest world to make it more understandable and allow us to interact with it. It may take the form of a person, of course.

[onawah]

Definitely not! I think Simon has spread himself way too thin, and is perhaps in over his head with all he has taken on.
Some of the information he has offered has panned out, some has not.
I think he became inactive on Avalon when the questions began to become too uncomfortable.


Hi Onawah,

Would you recommend a doctor who treats you this way?

[Agape]

Hi Onawah,

all the paid sessions took place as expected. No complaints about this.

The problem is that he found a serious situation, started a treatment, and promised to continue the following week, promised calling us on a specific date. It was not our request for further assistance: it was an ongoing treatment for a serious case, left in the middle.

That was in March 2015. Now we are in February 2016. Would you recommend a doctor who treats you this way?


What about this, may I offer you magic mirror ? One may ask , who are you people, 2 in 1 , aren't you too much ?

You say you both or either , keep having abstract visions and getting abducted , not to mention social targeting ,

can you say at least , are you two or one being partaking of two bodies .

Imagine all the implications of complexity beyond uniqueness of self , i found some of older generation ancestors are not capable of equal relationships because in their respective societies they were always alone and bound to be unique .


There's more truth between the earth and heaven than any one can contain ..



Wishing you happy tidings and swift resolution of your noble path to wisdom


:heart:agape:coffee:

[raff]

Well speaking as someone who has "worked" with clearing negative entities like the djin that Simon Parkes talks about i can only say that this is a process that does not go away with one stroke of the magic wand. Our habits and attitudes do play a part in attracting them but the rabbit hole goes far deeper than is imagined. I liken this process as when one cleans ones clothes (and for arguments sake these clothes are the colour white) so invariably dirt will very quickly "attract" itself to you. Or similarly a swimming pool that has a small filtration system near the surface of the water cleans the impurities. And when the water is calm the sediment falls to the bottom of the pool but when a certain prayer or incantation is used it is like a hand that swipes and lifts the dirty sediment on the bottom and lifts the dirt and smothers the whole pool with its impurity and gives the filtration unit a chance slowly to remove a small amount of dirt. But eventually the sediment falls to the bottom and the process begins again.
My feeling about Simon is that he is overwhelmed and needs a good break to recharge. Don't be so hard on him the stuff this gentleman has to do is hard and difficult and i tip my hat off to him. It ain't easy and the more you understand this process the more open to attack one becomes and the harder it gets. But with a constant desire to continue to clean oneself this process will bring success only as so far as one has a physical body and the knowledge that it will always get dirty and needs to be constantly cleaned.

[Intranuclear]

It is important to remember that Simon is a human being and he himself may have serious issues.
Who does he turn to?
I remember decades ago when I used to be a contractor and severely undercharge my clients, I hit a wall. For weeks I did not answer the phone and was severely depressed.
I thought I was being really helpful to people, but undercharging just made me very overworked and undervalued. I did, in the end, return to finish what I promised and terminated being a contractor.
As far as believing in Simon, I have none. Just as a blind man who was born blind and someone telling him about the glories of color, either what Simon says is true but invisible to me, or that he is a complete liar, or schizophrenic, or even some permutation of the three. I am certainly not qualified to judge him. However, I certainly wish him to be totally genuine.

[TraineeHuman]

It's important for us to recognize that remote "exorcism" of a hostile djinn, or any other form of remote psychotherapy/etc via telepathy (including via Skype) is a very, very advanced skill. It's much, much harder to do successfully than remote psychic healing. I've learnt this through my own experience.

The problem, just in my own experience, has occurred always whenever the client fails to have a very, very strong sense of existing at a higher dimensional level than the physical and the near-physical. In my experience, I'm afraid, the client then apparently becomes the problem rather than the remote healer being the problem in any way. In remote psychic healing the client just focuses on their body and whatever disease or condition it has. Everybody knows how to do that. Simple. But I've found that very few have the mastery of their soul developed in the sense of being able to focus clearly at will on just their soul, or even at will just on whatever of themselves exists beyond the physical body. They can't fully "locate" themselves as a (pure) being, I'd say.

Sadly, my experience has been that the client will usually cut off the telepathic support I am sending them. And they will do so purely because they don't understand, and they misconstrue, what is going on. If such support or "exorcism" etc doesn't work, I would bet every time that this was because the client unwittingly cut themselves off. All that a therapist/healer can do is facilitate the client's own process of self-healing. When the client quite unknowingly sabotages the facilitation, how can the healer make it real and believable to them that the client has done this? Anything the healer says at that point will just sound like an excuse for the healer's supposed failure to deliver.

[onawah]

I do healing work myself, and there are people that I've found i am not able to work with, most often because of pharmaceuticals they are taking, though I don't always realize at first that that is going to be a problem.
I can't really imagine how tough it might be to work with abductees and people who are under psychic attack, etc.
So I give credit to Simon for making the effort to do that kind of work--I just think that he overestimates himself, and as a whistleblower, he needs to be more able to take criticism and accept it when people point out where he might not be on target.
Being a whistleblower is no doubt tough enough in itself...
Whether he is totally on the level in that respect is still unclear to me, but I imagine time will tell...

[Bill Ryan]

The problem is that he found a serious situation, started a treatment, and promised to continue the following week, promised calling us on a specific date. It was not our request for further assistance: it was an ongoing treatment for a serious case, left in the middle.



This is really important. A therapist/counselor taking on more than they can handle (or finish) can sometimes do serious damage. Like a surgeon with a patient on the operating table, if you 'open them up' (literally or figuratively) you can NOT just leave the patient there and walk away.

You MUST finish what you started, and if you encounter something you don't know how to handle, you don't, can't and mustn't just abandon your client. At LEAST, explain to them that there are difficulties and then do everything you can to find alternative support or solutions — such as recommending another therapist, and then doing a full handover, including all notes taken about the client, the progress made, and the information/situation known so far.

I too have personal experience with this (both personally and at close first hand), and it's one of the handful of absolute, non-negotiable, fundamental protocols for any therapist or counselor. An experience like Alberto and Daniela have reported is tantamount to a betrayal.

[Mike Gorman]

Thanks Alberto and Daniala, it is good that you share this story. My own personal encounter with Simon, (only attending one of his talks and brief chat), left me feeling something was not right. I elaborated on it elsewhere on the forum at the time but suffice to say when I first encountered him via youtube I listened with interest to everything i could find. After the talk I lost all interest in him, I think he is not what he claims to be without being able to concisely explain why.

I have never commented on this person, if people wish to extend creedence to people that is their business-however from years ago when I saw him I immediately had a bad reaction, a feeling of deception and confabulation-really those tales of dimensional beings go a bit over the top - not saying other dimensions are not possible, the universe is far stranger than anyone suspects (this is borne out nearly every month with discoveries and developments in astrophysics, quantum physics e.t.c) but nope, this guy is not the real deal.

[Limor Wolf]

Thank you, Alberto and Daniella for sharing your story, I sincerely hope you are well and getting better in your endavour. In my eyes, if there is no open and sincere adressing to the delicate matter of the entity issue and the possibility of programming of the human mind, than no real answers are asked, and no real soultions are given, and the understanding of human driven by entity's agenda will not be adressed and will only be explained by simple everyday human to human level. I believe that it is not right to put Simon under a trial, the desire to help humanity may be very sincere, but there is a real need to understand the beings that are pulling the strings behind the scene and using those same very good attributes and benevolent desires, as they do have enormouse understanding of human psychology and our human needs and use it to their own benefit

To the best of my knowledge the methods of deprogramming and assisting to others that are used by Simon Parkes were given to him as a download from his reptilian 'Dad' which he refers to as Annu, some thoughts when put in that direction only helps to draw some conclusions for the reasonable thinker. The method of 'problem, reaction, solution' works every time.

But again, this is not about one man, as we better not be divided from one another, but about all of us, no one is exempt from those beings 'touch', seeing this with those glasses and then we can actually do something about it. Recognising the trail we are put on is of prime importance to get out of others games and create our own, because that is possible.

Many blessings ~

Limor

[Daozen]

To the best of my knowledge (That came from Simon Parkes himself) The methods of deprogramming and assisting to others that are used by Simon Parkes were given to him as a download from his reptilian 'Dad' which he refers to as Annu, some thoughts put in that direction only may bring some conclusions to think about.



Correct me if I'm wrong, Limor Wolf, but I think Simon only started referring to Annu after that name appeared on The Ruiner's blog.

[Limor Wolf]

To the best of my knowledge (That came from Simon Parkes himself) The methods of deprogramming and assisting to others that are used by Simon Parkes were given to him as a download from his reptilian 'Dad' which he refers to as Annu, some thoughts put in that direction only may bring some conclusions to think about.





Correct me if I'm wrong, Limor Wolf, but I think Simon only started referring to Annu after that name appeared on The Ruiner's blog.

I am correcting you, Daozen :)

Annu was mentioned by Simon on his Avalon thread a year or two ago. Also, as back as 2013 I heard from someone who was very closely assisted by him that He tells that his "dad", the Draco Reptilian king, has given him the keys for deprogramming. I also have my own experiences. The importance should not be on Simon, but on the understanding of those being's agenda and their works not only through our weakneses but through our benevolence tendencies as well in order to distruct and divert humanity from itself and it's path. Until we will awake to that as well and be able to see the damage along history, individually and collectively, be able to forgive ourselves and others, do what we can to heal and make different choices. It's of great value that we create our own game rather than be on that of others. Either Knowingly or not

Many Blessings ~

Limor

[Daozen]

OK fair enough Limor Wolf. I don't read him closely enough to say for sure. Thanks for the clarification and additional info.

I hope you find another therapist Alberto e Daniela...

[ulli]

I went through a similar experience that you described, back in 2001.
I would wake up at nights and see "things". The visions only lasted for a few seconds, during the time my brain was in alpha frequency. But they were real, in the sense that I would see my bedroom as it was, and object floating through the room at about 1 m above the floor. And this happened every night. The images were not scary, in particular, and sometimes even a bit comical. Anyway, my husband was disturbed and it became a problem for him, because I always would wake him up to give a report.
So I joined a forum called UFOTruth, and there I learnt from others who had similar experiences. If one speaks firmly to whoever is creating those holograms they will respect you.
And so I did. I said "whoever you are, if you wish to contact me please do so during the daytime, at noon, and from my front door. There is a bell."

I never had another vision, at least not for years. Actually, after a few months I started missing them, there was a sense of loss. Less drama in my life and I felt bored.
Here is a list of the visions: tiny hot air balloons, once there was a king poodle on a leash, perfectly groomed. Another time a small angel, as one of those cheap ceramic statues from a dollar store. And many times miniature UFOs.
After seeing the pattern I decided that whoever was targeting me wanted to test my reaction, but were deliberately choosing non threatening objects.
Just by joining that forum I received the best advice I could have had. And no payment.

Again, later on, when psychic attacks began to plague me here on Avalon, I found that community is the best way to solve these kinds of problems.
And what is needed is an honest self examination, and choosing to return to "normal" life, whatever that means.

All other explanations that attempt to bring one closer to other civilizations only further one's split from reality.
My hunch is that they only feed the mind, which can at times be driven by fascination, insatiable for stimulus, and don't reach one's innermost essence.

[Shannon]

Does anyone ever claim to be the son of the reptillian janitor who cleans king annus royal throne? Or sweeps the mothership?

[Agape]

Does anyone ever claim to be the son of the reptillian janitor who cleans king annus royal throne? Or sweeps the mothership?

No, because it's not a regular job on motherships anyway...

:cocktail:

[Ron Mauer Sr]

​My contact with Simon has been an interesting experience. Although I question all experience, including information from Simon, I still feel that he has integrity. And I do like him.

My primary issue with information given by Simon is that his sources include Illuminati and ETs. That, for me, is a big red flag. I would not trust those sources, although some of the information may be valid. Add to that, the probability that technology exists that can be used to insert and erase memories, then one realizes how important it is to seek clear communication with one's own Soul or HS.

If Simon has displeased the dark team by providing valuable information, then it would be very clever of the dark team to counter using false flag attacks, using impostors appearing as Simon or Fran (his very attractive assistant) to drive people away from Simon. Reference posts:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84886-Simon-Parkes-The-Alien-Agenda-August-2015&p=996914&viewfull=1#post996914 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84886-Simon-Parkes-The-Alien-Agenda-August-2015&p=996914&viewfull=1#post996914)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84886-Simon-Parkes-The-Alien-Agenda-August-2015&p=1000578&viewfull=1#post1000578

[onawah]

Ron, as far as I am aware, Simon's assistant Fran resigned from the Connecting Consciousness organization. That was part of the reason, I believe, he said in the interview with Jay Pee that he was taking a break from work
( See my post:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88999-Our-experience-withSimonParkes&p=1048077&viewfull=1#post1048077m )

​My contact with Simon has been an interesting experience. Although I question all experience, including information from Simon, I still feel that he has integrity. And I do like him.

My primary issue with information given by Simon is that his sources include Illuminati and ETs. That, for me, is a big red flag. I would not trust those sources, although some of the information may be valid. Add to that, the probability that technology exists that can be used to insert and erase memories, then one realizes how important it is to seek clear communication with one's own Soul or HS.

If Simon has displeased the dark team by providing valuable information, then it would be very clever of the dark team to counter using false flag attacks, using impostors appearing as Simon or Fran (his very attractive assistant) to drive people away from Simon. Reference posts:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84886-Simon-Parkes-The-Alien-Agenda-August-2015&p=996914&viewfull=1#post996914 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84886-Simon-Parkes-The-Alien-Agenda-August-2015&p=996914&viewfull=1#post996914)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84886-Simon-Parkes-The-Alien-Agenda-August-2015&p=1000578&viewfull=1#post1000578

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Ron, as far as I am aware, Simon's assistant Fran resigned from the Connecting Consciousness organization. That was part of the reason, I believe, he said in the interview with Jay Pee that he was taking a break from work
( See my post:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88999-Our-experience-withSimonParkes&p=1048077&viewfull=1#post1048077m )

​My contact with Simon has been an interesting experience. Although I question all experience, including information from Simon, I still feel that he has integrity. And I do like him.

My primary issue with information given by Simon is that his sources include Illuminati and ETs. That, for me, is a big red flag. I would not trust those sources, although some of the information may be valid. Add to that, the probability that technology exists that can be used to insert and erase memories, then one realizes how important it is to seek clear communication with one's own Soul or HS.

If Simon has displeased the dark team by providing valuable information, then it would be very clever of the dark team to counter using false flag attacks, using impostors appearing as Simon or Fran (his very attractive assistant) to drive people away from Simon. Reference posts:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84886-Simon-Parkes-The-Alien-Agenda-August-2015&p=996914&viewfull=1#post996914 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84886-Simon-Parkes-The-Alien-Agenda-August-2015&p=996914&viewfull=1#post996914)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84886-Simon-Parkes-The-Alien-Agenda-August-2015&p=1000578&viewfull=1#post1000578













Thanks.
My information is a bit dated.
The psychic attacks (if that is what they were) ended (or maybe I learned how to handle them) the first half of last year.

[Pilgrim]

Simon is just human as we are. Let´s be not judgemental. He brought a lot of valuable info to us. I give him credit for that one. Some of that may resonate with us, some of that not, since some portion of shared might be distraction. Who knows... It is up to us individually, anyway, how all that fits to our understanding and perception of existence or reality.

It can be too much for one person to deal with all that stuff. I would not blame him if he needs to recharge his batteries or step back a little bit. he can face many "things" by himself as well.

Further on, we cannot disregard our own individual responsibility over our own lives. Even though we have tendency to go for quick help to "specialist" I believe the key, which we seek mostly outside, is always in us...

Many interesting point of views above. Thanks to all of you.

Hugs to everyone.

Pilgrim

[onawah]

Simon talks more about his work doing one to one sessions in his most recent (February 2016) interview with Jay Pee here: eMPvk6FU6CQ starting around 1:11:27

update: I like what he says in this segment about the karmic repercussions of meat eating and how that keeps us in slavery to the Reptilians. Whatever you may think about Simon, you have to admit he is quite unique: a vegetarian/ politician/alternative healer/Illuminati bloodline/whistleblower.

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlt1/v/t1.0-9/12813959_1675936232675171_8420274914168697760_n.jpg?oh=d107da0c630655b1030b12f00a3dd600&oe=5793285E

[Chester]

I do not get a good feeling from him and don't know what to make of people looking to him for their own personal questions.

There are people out there not unlike peeping toms and busybodies ( all the way up to psychopaths )who get off being believed and trusted.

Tell me about it!...


They get access to everything you hold private and dear without the responsibility of having a relationship. They simply have control.

I see him as one of the problems in this community and I hope people stop paying attention to him. Your not worth his time obviously. Why give him yours?

Why do I always have to learn these things the hardest ways?

Perhaps that pattern has ended.

[Chester]

To the best of my knowledge (That came from Simon Parkes himself) The methods of deprogramming and assisting to others that are used by Simon Parkes were given to him as a download from his reptilian 'Dad' which he refers to as Annu, some thoughts put in that direction only may bring some conclusions to think about.



Correct me if I'm wrong, Limor Wolf, but I think Simon only started referring to Annu after that name appeared on The Ruiner's blog.

I know for absolute certainty that Simon would refer to "Daddy Drac" as Anu interchangeably for at least a year prior to the release of the blog you mentioned.

[Daozen]

To the best of my knowledge (That came from Simon Parkes himself) The methods of deprogramming and assisting to others that are used by Simon Parkes were given to him as a download from his reptilian 'Dad' which he refers to as Annu, some thoughts put in that direction only may bring some conclusions to think about.



Correct me if I'm wrong, Limor Wolf, but I think Simon only started referring to Annu after that name appeared on The Ruiner's blog.

I know for absolute certainty that Simon would refer to "Daddy Drac" as Anu interchangeably for at least a year prior to the release of the blog you mentioned.

Thanks for the clarification.

[Simon]

Obviously I was very disappointed not to have been able to have met Danielle and Alberto. The facts are, that recently Danielle and Alberto emailed me on a wednesday saying that they would be in my home town on Saturday and they would like to meet up. Unfortunately I was not in a position to do so, indeed, my calendar is committed 4-6 weeks ahead and I cannot just drop one engagement for another. There have also been incredibly difficult technical isues where my messages have not been delivered and also messages to me have not been received. However I will be contacting Danielle and Alberto so that we can meet up.

In regard to the post mentioning Fran. Fran left the decision making part of Connecting Conciousness because she felt it was high time that she undertook a greater aspect of her healing skills. This necessitated relinquishing the day to day aspects that I had agreed with her. Fran remains a good friend and an excellent colleague, and there are projects in the future which she knows I wish her to be involved in.

It's such a shame that I've not even had the time to visit Avalon as I would like. My commitment to Bill who is without question an outstandingly good person, will always remain strong and my lack of presence here should not be interpreted in any way as a negative stance.

All the best,
Simon

[Alberto e Daniela]

Obviously I was very disappointed not to have been able to have met Danielle and Alberto. The facts are, that recently Danielle and Alberto emailed me on a wednesday saying that they would be in my home town on Saturday and they would like to meet up. Unfortunately I was not in a position to do so, indeed, my calendar is committed 4-6 weeks ahead and I cannot just drop one engagement for another. There have also been incredibly difficult technical isues where my messages have not been delivered and also messages to me have not been received. However I will be contacting Danielle and Alberto so that we can meet up.


Dear Simon,

it is most interesting that you reduce our attempts to contact you to the recent desperate one, omitting the last 8 months of chats and calls without reply through Skype, through your cell phone (on two different numbers) and a dozen e-mails to the two addresses you gave us.

It is also interesting how you gave no response whatsoever to this last SMS, anyway: it is just today we see that you actually received it. A few words would have been enough to explain, but they never arrived, as usual (after June 2015).

It is also interesting that you don't mention the several "I will call you soon" you sent us on Skype chat (often prompted by your collaborators whom we had contacted) to which a call never followed, after june 2015.

And what about the last appointment that we had booked, as a last resort, on February 10th 2016, at 18:30 ? All we got from you, at 18:30 hours, after we asked permission to call, was a chat, saying that you were "on another call": and then, one hour later, you disappeared offline without a further word.
Once more, this is an example of the most striking feature in your communication: not a word after the missed calls, the delays, nothing about the reasons for stopping your treatment.
Absolute silence. Perhaps shame only affects the humans of this planet.

The cobra reappears today on this forum (eight months late), looking at us with its red eyes, as you write something about us and, once again, promising a contact, but only after being exposed in public; should we take this as a genuine interest towards us?

And how have you used this chance to write before everyone? You have mentioned a tiny bit of what happened, calling it "the facts". And have "forgot" to mention all that would put you in a unfavorable light.

We are extremely disappointed, and worried, because of the change we have seen in you after the first conversations: what happened to you Simon? And we don't just mean in the last few weeks: this has been going on since last summer. You can't just say you're tired: why do you continue to start new patients, then? What respect do you have for the existing ones?

[onawah]

I just want to thank Simon (while he's visiting us here again on Avalon) for talking more about why meat-eating is unwise in his last show with Jay Pee.
Aside from the horrific cruelty that animals are experiencing at the hands of humans and the karmic repercussions for the human race in general from that, the idea that it keeps us in a negative connection with negative Reptilians is an important point to consider and share, and it needs to be shared repeatedly because so many people are in such strong denial on this point.

[Chester]

Sadly I was almost 14 months too early -
(http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78593-Simon-Parkes-personal-reflections-upon...)

Anyways, there are two matters I hoped to speak to you (Simon) about and I am again reminding you of your commitment to me that we would. Yet since my post back on January 1, 2015, another set of related and far more important matters arose.

I can clear up the little matter that involved Charles/Atticus/Stephen Hodges and can provide some interesting documentation you might be very interested in having.

I hold no hard feelings and only wish that we could somehow still have our conversation.

This is no setup and if you request all content and discussions remain strictly between us, I would accept that. I know you would very much appreciate what I could provide to you and that if you handled it properly, could benefit yourself as well as the greater alternative community.

[mojo]

My BS meter is still going off...

[Sean]

Guys..

It amazes me how many people in the 'spiritual" community, have all these grand contacts with offworld intelligences..but they need $29.95 of YOUR money(or whatever amount) for their books,or their "readings" or whatever the hell else, to get their rent paid and keep their lights on. Seems to me if Simon actually was what he says he is, he could come up with a better way to keep himself in beer and potato chips.

Keep giving away your power,people. I'm sure it'll end well..#SMDH

[RunningDeer]

Seems to me if Simon actually was what he says he is, he could come up with a better way to keep himself in beer and potato chips.

Food for thought: lowbrow poke-pokes says more about the person spouting than the one they attack.


…need $29.95 of YOUR money(or whatever amount) for their books,or their "readings" or whatever the hell else, to get their rent paid and keep their lights on.

I’ll purchase books and donate as a way to thank those for their time, energy, work on themselves and courage to put forth their point of view. Heat, electricity, food…the basics to help one’s family to survived? Unfortunately, that’s plain old reality.


Keep giving away your power,people.

Yes, self-empowerment, healing and listen within are the goals. Many need a jumpstart from shared wisdom, synchronicities and such.

:offtopic:

[greybeard]

Becoming a qualified therapist is a long and expensive business.
There is the training, the study, the exams, the necessary insurance to practice, membership of the training organisation, some supervision in the early stages after qualification.
Many qualify, few actually make a living---that's my personal experience.

If Simon went through a similar process then he is entitled to charge an appropriate fee.

Chris

[3(C)+me]

As once a trained healer I can attest that the schooling alone will cost a fortune, yearly fees, classes in order to continue to practice. Plus as far as I am concerned, a big issue is the burn out that can happen. People come to healers to be fixed, like taking a pill, take this and it will go away but the person takes no responsibility to actually make the changes needed to actually get well and stay well.
It is I think much worse now as people are literally coming apart and since they do not want to or fear doing any inner work want someone to just get rid of it for them.

I have seen this with personal friends and in session.

I do think some people do have nonphysical riders, that basically attach to the person or visit them. Almost always it is because the person has loose boundaries, can't say no, don't know how to own their space, or often times are engaging in addictive behaviors that caused the opening in the first place.

I have a personal friend who I think has a few riders, she is confused, secretly drinking alone and probably has a sexual addiction she has relabeled it in idealistic/romantic terms (he is my soul mate) but is miserable and is obsessive.
She refuses to go into therapy or see a healer to deal with the underlying issues that are still not being dealt with.

Look I have been a healer, I see how it can be at times a thankless job. But they must be able to take care of themselves and say no more often then yes, the lesson is a hard one as many people are suffering and want help but they think a few sessions and it's fixed but what is required of the person is to make some changes in the way they handle personal affairs or the problem will come back.

If your a healer and you don't know how to say no, you are screwed.

My personal view is that if someone is having visitors a good healer can help but the person then has to learn to say no and own their space and declare that they will not, under any circumstances allow negatives to come and visit them. Your bed room/home is your space and you can decide who visits you. Declare it with confidence and see what happens.

I am basically addressing the average person, not someone with some MK/government programs who are targeted in nasty and consistent ways.

Now you have addressed how said healer has failed you. Now putting anymore energy into this is wasted. You want to get some issues addressed it would be best if you used your energy to get it done instead of pointing fingers and making this thread 25 pages playing the injured one.

What is the lesson for you here?

[Rha S ananda]

removed cause a home drama

[Sean]

Seems to me if Simon actually was what he says he is, he could come up with a better way to keep himself in beer and potato chips.

Food for thought: lowbrow poke-pokes says more about the person spouting than the one they attack.


…need $29.95 of YOUR money(or whatever amount) for their books,or their "readings" or whatever the hell else, to get their rent paid and keep their lights on.

I’ll purchase books and donate as a way to thank those for their time, energy, work on themselves and courage to put forth their point of view. Heat, electricity, food…the basics to help one’s family to survived? Unfortunately, that’s plain old reality.


Keep giving away your power,people.

Yes, self-empowerment, healing and listen within are the goals. Many need a jumpstart from shared wisdom, synchronicities and such.

:offtopic:

Low-brow poke-poke..lol.

Once you have to hurl insults..you've lost the argument. It's sad that so many will follow any "pied-piper", as long as he/she plays your tune. But, hey, please insult me more...

[mojo]

Not sure of the validity of the healer title but can speak about the past statements made about ufo encounters and the mantis connection. Not one shred of evidence but tall tales that seemed to garner the praise of the forum in the early days of his membership. I started out with an open mind even though no proof was offered. It wasn't until he made a promise in public to follow up on my research that began to question his case about contact with ETs. Now that there is gain in popularity he is working in other areas like healing. Its seems probable that if one part comes into question it seems reasonable that other parts are suspect.

[Jules]

I hope that issues with Simon are resolved. If people experience problems then it is diplomatic for the issues to be brought out and allow the other party to respond, and offer solutions to the issues. Maybe he was not able to fix your issues addressed to him, and has decided not to respond. Maybe things are not what they appear to be on the surface. I try not to reach conclusions until people have a chance to have their input.

While I like Simon, I wonder if he may himself be deceived by reptoids or mantids or something else. Sometimes I have found an inconsistency that conflicts with what was stated earlier, so I think is it just me, did I miss something? However I myself have changed my story when I think back to previous experiences I have had as a child speaking with family, then I try to correct it to the best version I remember. Humans are funny that way. I think it is fair to let Simon answer for himself, and if he received money and didn't follow through what you paid for, then refund you, or if he is able to complete the session you paid for, allow him to do so. It seems odd based on what you have written here. I wish I had all the answers, but then you probably would have asked me for the information to help you instead...

Good luck.

[Daozen]

Guys..

It amazes me how many people in the 'spiritual" community, have all these grand contacts with offworld intelligences..but they need $29.95 of YOUR money(or whatever amount) for their books,or their "readings" or whatever the hell else, to get their rent paid and keep their lights on. Seems to me if Simon actually was what he says he is, he could come up with a better way to keep himself in beer and potato chips.

Keep giving away your power,people. I'm sure it'll end well..#SMDH

There is a blockade on.

If someone spends two months gardening, he's entitled to two months pay, right? If someone spends 2 months writing a book, he's entitled to two months compensation, correct?

BTW, how do you earn a living? EDIT: I just saw your handle. I see no reason why an actor should feel above someone who writes...

[Sean]

Guys..

It amazes me how many people in the 'spiritual" community, have all these grand contacts with offworld intelligences..but they need $29.95 of YOUR money(or whatever amount) for their books,or their "readings" or whatever the hell else, to get their rent paid and keep their lights on. Seems to me if Simon actually was what he says he is, he could come up with a better way to keep himself in beer and potato chips.

Keep giving away your power,people. I'm sure it'll end well..#SMDH

There is a blockade on.

If someone spends two months gardening, he's entitled to two months pay, right? If someone spends 2 months writing a book, he's entitled to two months compensation, correct?

BTW, how do you earn a living? EDIT: I just saw your handle. I see no reason why an actor should feel above someone who writes...

A blockade? Please explain.

As far as making a living..I contrast Simon with someone like David Icke. I have no issue with Icke making $$$ Why?

Because David Icke has made verifiable claims, and has been proven RIGHT more than anyone in the "spiritual community" space. Has anyone been able to verify one word Simon has spoken?

C'mon. In this forum, with psychics, healers, lightworkers, shamans, etc etc etc, has no one been able to verify Simon's story? I'm not talking about the EXISTENCE of aliens, or galactic councils and so forth. If you read my post history, you see me speak of my own experiences.

I mean has anyone here used your powers to drill in to Simon's personal story to see if it's true? We have remote viewers posting here too, do we not?

Get on it. Then we can put this to rest. And if I'm wrong, I'll CALL Simon and apologize.

[mojo]

Well said workingactor, I agree totally that some folks have accepted his story at face value. So similar to Corey Goode in his early beginning on the forum. And by the response in this post there is still support. This is no reflection on others but a pov that is mine in relation to the amazing claims about his mantid experience and et contact without anything to go on but a story. Hope that the friends here on the forum will not take personal offense about how I feel.

[Agape]

C'mon. In this forum, with psychics, healers, lightworkers, shamans, etc etc etc, has no one been able to verify Simon's story? I'm not talking about the EXISTENCE of aliens, or galactic councils and so forth. If you read my post history, you see me speak of my own experiences.


Show me another little ET who would voluntarily submit themselves to the hands of human verification .
Talk to me of any venerable human scientists who would commit themselves to the process ..

Oh great spirit of institution ...

:star:

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/Aikatwo/70225db1c706ab480afa00dc4b7e1d16.jpg (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/Aikatwo/media/70225db1c706ab480afa00dc4b7e1d16.jpg.html)


:bigsmile:

[Ron Mauer Sr]

The path to truth, love and freedom is not straight or without distractions.

Best we can do is to use the rational and intuitive hemispheres of the brain. If we only use half, we are acting with a lame brain. When rational and intuitive thoughts agree, that is the best we can do.

Input from others can be helpful or a distraction on the path but we are here to do our own research and learn to be our own psychic. All information is a piece of the big puzzle, a multi-dimensional chess game. We should not expect others to provide all the answers. After all, this experience may simply be boot camp for consciousness and we have much to learn through direct personal experience.

When I graduate from this phase of my training, I feel very confident that I will agree with the still small voice within that occasionally reminds me "The only answer is love."

[Shannon]

Well said workingactor, I agree totally that some folks have accepted his story at face value. So similar to Corey Goode in his early beginning on the forum. And by the response in this post there is still support. This is no reflection on others but a pov that is mine in relation to the amazing claims about his mantid experience and et contact without anything to go on but a story. Hope that the friends here on the forum will not take personal offense about how I feel.

Right- it would be one thing if the guy was truly helping people. But I don't see that. I see thread after thread on how he blows people off, ignores questions and makes claims that are just plain ridiculous.

That said, if someone is being helped or healed by him then more power to 'em....

And with that, I offer the members here my caring support , will lend you my ear and my time with no charge. :)

[Innocent Warrior]

Get on it. Then we can put this to rest. And if I'm wrong, I'll CALL Simon and apologize.

People generally tend to have an aversion to being ordered around, hence I don't like your chances and thought you could use this: https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL448487A4D794A489

[Sean]

Get on it. Then we can put this to rest. And if I'm wrong, I'll CALL Simon and apologize.

People generally tend to have an aversion to being ordered around, hence I don't like your chances and thought you could use this: https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL448487A4D794A489

Challenge accepted.

[Becky]

The path to truth, love and freedom is not straight or without distractions.

Best we can do is to use the rational and intuitive hemispheres of the brain. If we only use half, we are acting with a lame brain. When rational and intuitive thoughts agree, that is the best we can do.

Input from others can be helpful or a distraction on the path but we are here to do our own research and learn to be our own psychic. All information is a piece of the big puzzle, a multi-dimensional chess game. We should not expect others to provide all the answers. After all, this experience may simply be boot camp for consciousness and we have much to learn through direct personal experience.

When I graduate from this phase of my training, I feel very confident that I will agree with the still small voice within that occasionally reminds me "The only answer is love."

This is beautifully written. I do tend to agree, especially with the final quote "the only answer is Love"

[Daozen]

Guys..

It amazes me how many people in the 'spiritual" community, have all these grand contacts with offworld intelligences..but they need $29.95 of YOUR money(or whatever amount) for their books,or their "readings" or whatever the hell else, to get their rent paid and keep their lights on. Seems to me if Simon actually was what he says he is, he could come up with a better way to keep himself in beer and potato chips.

Keep giving away your power,people. I'm sure it'll end well..#SMDH

There is a blockade on.

If someone spends two months gardening, he's entitled to two months pay, right? If someone spends 2 months writing a book, he's entitled to two months compensation, correct?

BTW, how do you earn a living? EDIT: I just saw your handle. I see no reason why an actor should feel above someone who writes...

A blockade? Please explain.

As far as making a living..I contrast Simon with someone like David Icke. I have no issue with Icke making $$$ Why?

Because David Icke has made verifiable claims, and has been proven RIGHT more than anyone in the "spiritual community" space. Has anyone been able to verify one word Simon has spoken?

C'mon. In this forum, with psychics, healers, lightworkers, shamans, etc etc etc, has no one been able to verify Simon's story? I'm not talking about the EXISTENCE of aliens, or galactic councils and so forth. If you read my post history, you see me speak of my own experiences.

I mean has anyone here used your powers to drill in to Simon's personal story to see if it's true? We have remote viewers posting here too, do we not?

Get on it. Then we can put this to rest. And if I'm wrong, I'll CALL Simon and apologize.

No time to explain what I know about the quarantine right now but it's an interesting topic... I hope to cover it some other time.

I agree there are a lot of con artists out there, so thanks for explaining yourself. I understand how people feel about the UFOlogy circus, but I have seen more than one sweeping statement made about people whole sell books etc, and I think it's not fair to tar everyone with the same brush. Situations should be evaluated on a case by case basis.

I can RV. There is a thread of me doing it successfully somewhere on Avalon. I think Simon is in contact with some sort of off-world intelligence, but I don't know if they have humanity's best interests at heart. I have also noticed his story changes from time to time. Despite the fact that I don't resonate with his material, I have no personal issue with him.

Best we make our own future.

[onawah]

There's a Skype talk with Simon and the group in Washington state which looks to be fairly new here:
X9BgZsTcBN8
...that I'm listening to now.
This excerpt is interesting, about something I'd not heard before re the Archons:
P4nFxiUCZZs

I feel certain that Simon is in touch with ETs, but I think part of the reason that I was not allowed into the Connecting Consciousness group was because I had begun asking questions about the Mantids and why we should trust a race that has been working with the Reptilians, as Simon claimed they had.
From what I've heard, there are people in his group who have also had contact with the Mantids and believe themselves to be of Mantid origin, though they may not want to broadcast that widely, which I think is very understandable.
Inasmuch as some people have said they've been helped by Simon's healing work, and some of his information has panned out, I think he's still in the running as a whistleblower and possibly more, though he says that he uses the Djinn in his work, which I would have some reservations about (though perhaps others healers do the same and just don't advertise it. He says they can be used for good as well as evil, depending on the person who is working with them).
Inasmuch as Bill Ryan has not unsubscribed him from Avalon, which says a lot, I don't think that Simon as a subject of discussion here is a waste of time or space, though I think it's a pity he hasn't found time to engage with us directly again.
There are still one or two questions I would like to pose to him...

[giovonni]

Natalie, this is the group from the Ramtha School extended community ... :)

[Chester]

Natalie, this is the group from the Ramtha School extended community ... :)

Ohhhhh boy... definitely have some experience with "this"... uuughhhh

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Becoming a qualified therapist is a long and expensive business.
There is the training, the study, the exams, the necessary insurance to practice, membership of the training organisation, some supervision in the early stages after qualification.
Many qualify, few actually make a living---that's my personal experience.

If Simon went through a similar process then he is entitled to charge an appropriate fee.

Chris

Yes. And if there is a real problem with Simon's ethics as a counselor then I'm sure there would be nothing to stop the dissatisfied customers from contacting some board or organization that oversees the licensing of therapists or counselors and their business practices. In the US we have something called the "Better Business Bureau" that routinely gets complaints all the time, but for professional therapists, since it's technical a medical field, I'm sure there is something. So if their complaint is really such a major problem then why would they complain on an Internet forum instead of having done that?

As far as people complaining about what he charges, other professional therapists might even charge much more than Simon's 30 pounds (about $41 US) per half hour. That's equivalent to about $81 per hour, but it's not uncommon for other counselors and therapists to charge over $200 for a one hour session. These people are like doctors (really treated as such by the government), and nobody expects their services to be cheap.

[greybeard]

Becoming a qualified therapist is a long and expensive business.
There is the training, the study, the exams, the necessary insurance to practice, membership of the training organisation, some supervision in the early stages after qualification.
Many qualify, few actually make a living---that's my personal experience.

If Simon went through a similar process then he is entitled to charge an appropriate fee.

Chris

Yes. And if there is a real problem with Simon's ethics as a counselor then I'm sure there would be nothing to stop the dissatisfied customers from contacting some board or organization that oversees the licensing of therapists or counselors and their business practices. In the US we have something called the "Better Business Bureau" that routinely gets complaints all the time, but for professional therapists, since it's technical a medical field, I'm sure there is something. So if their complaint is really such a major problem then why would they complain on an Internet forum instead of having done that?

As far as people complaining about what he charges, other professional therapists might even charge much more than Simon's 30 pounds (about $41 US) per half hour. That's equivalent to about $81 per hour, but it's not uncommon for other counselors and therapists to charge over $200 for a one hour session. These people are like doctors (really treated as such by the government), and nobody expects their services to be cheap.

Yes but that assumes that Simon has a license to treat people.
Does he?
I dont know
If he doesn’t then there is no recourse to a licensing authority---put simply, no license to practise to take away.

Chris

[Morbid]

Well said workingactor, I agree totally that some folks have accepted his story at face value. So similar to Corey Goode in his early beginning on the forum. And by the response in this post there is still support. This is no reflection on others but a pov that is mine in relation to the amazing claims about his mantid experience and et contact without anything to go on but a story. Hope that the friends here on the forum will not take personal offense about how I feel.

Right- it would be one thing if the guy was truly helping people. But I don't see that. I see thread after thread on how he blows people off, ignores questions and makes claims that are just plain ridiculous.

That said, if someone is being helped or healed by him then more power to 'em....

And with that, I offer the members here my caring support , will lend you my ear and my time with no charge. :)

personally, he helped me. but rather i believe he helped me to help myself. im not that easily misled ether. there are quite few topics that i would disagree with Simon, & fair enough. But my destiny led me to speak to him and maybe he has a role to play for somebody like myself. but possibly im wrong - who cares isnt?
While existing is this current reality where time is limited, I would love to take up some of your caring support please.

[Shannon]

Well said workingactor, I agree totally that some folks have accepted his story at face value. So similar to Corey Goode in his early beginning on the forum. And by the response in this post there is still support. This is no reflection on others but a pov that is mine in relation to the amazing claims about his mantid experience and et contact without anything to go on but a story. Hope that the friends here on the forum will not take personal offense about how I feel.

Right- it would be one thing if the guy was truly helping people. But I don't see that. I see thread after thread on how he blows people off, ignores questions and makes claims that are just plain ridiculous.

That said, if someone is being helped or healed by him then more power to 'em....

And with that, I offer the members here my caring support , will lend you my ear and my time with no charge. :)

personally, he helped me. but rather i believe he helped me to help myself. im not that easily misled ether. there are quite few topics that i would disagree with Simon, & fair enough. But my destiny led me to speak to him and maybe he has a role to play for somebody like myself. but possibly im wrong - who cares isnt?
While existing is this current reality where time is limited, I would love to take up some of your caring support please.

Anytime ....you just call out my name....or pm me lol


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEkIou3WFnM

[Callista]

I have been watching this thread with interest but have until now refrained from commenting – everyone has their own particular belief systems and I am not in the business of trying to change anyone’s point of view.

However I want to point out that Simon Parkes has helped me tremendously over the past 12 months and I totally honour his assistance and service to Humanity at this crucial time. He is coping with his own particular situations in his own way and ultimately is not responsible for the spiritual health and development of anyone else except himself.

We who are in service to others are employing our different gifts in order to promote understanding and enlightenment to those who are not in a position to understand the bigger picture. Our love and empathy for Humanity is the driving force, and all we can do is present our own truths in the hope that it will enable others to break through with their own particular truth.

For myself, I am a Mantid experiencer and although I realize this may be difficult for people to understand, this is my truth. If you would like to know more about my experiences, please go to my website www.callistasummerfield.com.

I know from the many emails I have received since I launched the website on 14 February 2015, that my story has helped others. If you cannot accept my truth or if it makes you feel uncomfortable, then you need to look elsewhere for inspiration. If you are a genuine Seeker, then you will eventually find that which you are seeking.

This paradigm where we are currently residing is far stranger than anything you can possibly imagine, and if you are wanting to endeavor to understand it, and work with it, you are going to have to think a long way outside of the box.

I encourage everyone to dig deep within themselves to find out what is your own particular, amazing, wondrous, mind-blowing, TRUTH – because your Truth is unique and precious and Humanity needs you and your gifts right now.

Much love

Callista

[Bill Ryan]

:bump:

I'm bumping this important thread, and have something to say.

Much of the time I've not said a lot about Simon Parkes, apart from agreeing earlier (in my posts #9 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88999-Our-experience-with-Simon-Parkes&p=1048222&viewfull=1#post1048222) and #31 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88999-Our-experience-with-Simon-Parkes&p=1048222&viewfull=1#post1048222)) that abandoning clients in the middle of a process, without warning or explanation, is a pretty unkind thing to do. At least! It's against the protocols of any qualified therapist that I know, whatever their discipline or ability. You just don't do that.

It's just now come to my attention, with all details supplied to me personally from a totally reliable source, that Simon is still doing this. I'm compelled to speak out with a clear personal statement.

In this most recent instance, not only did Simon break an agreement to get back to the person in question, but prior to that he had dumped a very harmful, heavy, and almost certainly incorrect judgement on them. If the person concerned hadn't been as tough as they are, they could have been flattened and really long-term damaged by that.

So, I'm saying this, on record.


Simon is not a qualified therapist.
He does not follow the protocols of a qualified therapist.
He breaks those protocols inasmuch as he frequently tells people things about themselves that may not be true in any way. That's 100% disempowering, and is 100% unethical.
It's on record that he frequently breaks appointments, abandons clients without reason or explanation, or in other ways fails to follow up on people who he may already have disempowered, or may have become dependent on him in some way. No qualified therapist does that, either.

It's always been the case with myself (and many others, of course), that because I have a voice — or at least a bit of one — what I say or don't say is noticed, and apparent non-comment can often be misinterpreted as agreement, compliance, or maybe not even caring.

That's just not the case, of course. Sometimes I really don't know a lot, or don't have much value to add, and sometimes I'm just collecting more information so I can get really clear about things.

In Simon's instance, I've not known the facts with any high degree of certainty, beyond 3rd or 4th hand reports.

But now, I do.

I believe, with reason, that contracting Simon as a counselor might be subjecting oneself to harm, whether this is consciously intended by Simon or not.

So I'm now also saying: I cannot endorse or recommend Simon's counseling of anyone.

[Simon]

Dear Bill,

Sorry to read the way you feel in response to Alberto and Danielle. The reason I withdrew from assisting them was because of the rudeness that I was subjected to. For the record I have never said that I was a qualified therapist, indeed to my knowledge, most qualified therapists don't have a handle on the situation in relation to satanic influence, MKultra or any of the establishment black programmes.

I will always hold you in the highest regard and will continue to support you and your work without question.

All the best,
Simon

[Callista]

I totally support what Bill has just said.

Unfortunately, over the past few months, we have become aware of situations with several people who have turned to Simon for assistance, only to be dropped by Simon for reasons unknown. This is an area of grave concern for me, as I have been a supporter of Simon over the past two years and have often defended him. However, due to recent events to which I am privy, I see situations have arisen where Simon is not honouring those who reach out to him and thus sometimes leaves these people in a far worse situation than before they contacted him.

Therefore I agree with Bill on this matter and ask any who seek counsel with Simon to be aware that Simon is sharing his opinions and thoughts which are subjective. I believe that Simon's intent is to help people, but greater harm can be done when someone seeking assistance is left high and dry after what can be traumatic information is given.

[Agape]

Dear Bill and whoever reads,

from all the years I'm involved in this type of research/community and after much distancing treatment I've suffered especially from non-professionals ( because it's a typical sign of non-professionalism to me when people with or without degrees back off from helping somebody who fell by circumstances to extraordinary trouble , only because it's 'too extraordinary' )
and myself I stopped lecturing in philosophy and meditation after 2008 due to extreme fatigue I experienced following years after my direct ET encounter in 2002 ( to all : please stop calling it 'vision' or 'psychic experience' after I tried to explain that it was neither , I'm not suffering from visions )

with one logical caveat , I've refused to mix any aspect of the ET data to spiritual teachings I used to deliver , or discuss this with people who trusted me and sought psychological support and counsel .


I believe, with reason, that contracting Simon as a counselor might be subjecting oneself to harm, whether this is consciously intended by Simon or not.

So I'm now also saying: I cannot endorse or recommend Simon's counseling of anyone.

I think it simply translates : consulting self-proclaimed extraterrestrial is carried entirely at your own risk . Quite like consulting with any other professional or non-professional , moreso here for stepping to territory that is bound to be 'alien' by nature to most of your 'human family' .

With respect to both parties ...

and to remain entirely truthful : we are still struggling for communication , contact , simple things really , decent communique between ETs and Humans , sharing information on level adequate to it and so forth.

If someone claims or believes otherwise , I advise please keep your eyes open to the reality millions of ( unabducted ) people live daily on this planet .

What I really wish to all of us concerned is the truth and respect we called for , instead of cover ups and alternative solutions.
Simon can't be blamed for the approach of society denying our very right to existence as we are, right to proclaim our identity .
Bill may not be the one who turns his back to Simon but most of our scientific, medical and other authorities do so , in fear of confrontation they themselves don't want to suffer .


Slowing down for a while and getting back to yourself always helps.


Best wishes


:heart:

[giovonni]

a simple rule of thumb ...

http://www.dailywisconsin.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/7224.png

Buyer always Beware.

[Bill Ryan]

a simple rule of thumb ...

http://www.dailywisconsin.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/7224.png

Buyer always Beware.


Maybe better this!




Caveat emptor. Praesertim venditor dicit: "Habes magna quaestio. Solum ego potest reficere."
:)

[giovonni]

a simple rule of thumb ...

http://www.dailywisconsin.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/7224.png

Buyer always Beware.


Maybe better this!




Caveat emptor. Praesertim venditor dicit: "Habes magna quaestio. Solum ego potest reficere."
:)

Caveat emptor. Praesertim venditor dicit: "Habes magna quaestio. Solum ego potest reficere." =
Buyerr beware. In particular, the seller says: "You have a big problem. Only I can fix it."

Yes indeed ...

Perhaps Simon will read and pay heed, if he hasn't already ...

Note, I always think it's best to seek professional/licensed help and also get second and (sometimes) third opinions.

PS ~ Otherwise one should never expect guarantees in such transactions.

[giovonni]

Here you go Natalie ... :)






a simple rule of thumb ...

http://www.dailywisconsin.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/7224.png

Buyer always Beware.


Maybe better this!




Caveat emptor. Praesertim venditor dicit: "Habes magna quaestio. Solum ego potest reficere."
:)

Caveat emptor. Praesertim venditor dicit: "Habes magna quaestio. Solum ego potest reficere." =
Buyerr beware. In particular, the seller says: "You have a big problem. Only I can fix it."

Yes indeed ...

Perhaps Simon will read and pay heed, if he hasn't already ...

Note, I always think it's best to seek professional/licensed help and also get second and (sometimes) third opinions.

PS ~ Otherwise one should never expect guarantees in such transactions.

[ThePythonicCow]

Caveat emptor. Praesertim venditor dicit: "Habes magna quaestio. Solum ego potest reficere." =
Buyer beware. In particular, the seller says: "You have a big problem. Only I can fix it."

It's pointing out that the buyer should be cautious ... especially if the seller says "You have a big problem that only I can fix."

[giovonni]

Caveat emptor. Praesertim venditor dicit: "Habes magna quaestio. Solum ego potest reficere." =
Buyer beware. In particular, the seller says: "You have a big problem. Only I can fix it."

It's pointing out that the buyer should be cautious ... especially if the seller says "You have a big problem that only I can fix."

Ah .... Ok Mr Paul ...

I think that goes without saying ... giggle :)

[Bibi]

Greetings!

I've been a member since April, and I just want to say how good it is to be here! :sun: I feel broadened and enriched as I continue to explore the vast amount of information available. I didn't foresee the nature of my very first post being in this vein; however, some issues have arisen that I feel important enough to warrant posting in this thread. It concerns my own first-hand experience with Simon Parkes.

I first became aware of Simon late in 2014, and like many, many others, I was quite taken with him. I appreciated his quiet and thoughtful demeanor, and as an experiencer, his information was quite riveting, and something inside me resonated. I finally sent an email and booked a session with him which would have taken place about a year ago, if I hadn't screwed up and slept through the 5 AM alarm - I'm in Los Angeles, and the session had been scheduled for the earlier part of his day. I immediately paid for another session, and when the date came around, I was eagerly present, but this time he's the one who didn't show up. There were no replies to the email I had sent right away, and then about ten days later, I received a rather cryptic Skype message from him to the effect (and I paraphrase) that he'd found himself in some difficulties. That was it, sans apology and no offer of re-scheduling. At that point, I had come into contact with a few folks who had heard tell of some not so nice interactions he'd had with some of their friends; however, since it was all hearsay, I didn't pay much attention.

I was finally able to have another session scheduled for the beginning of May (six weeks ago as I write this). He called me and after saying a quick hello, he went right into it. I was startled by what he told me:
1. That he'd never seen anyone like me before
2. My soul breakdown consisted of three parts - one part grey, one part robotics, and one part ancient earth human
3. I was much more alien than human; and
4. He was quite convinced I was mind-controlled
He gave me the link to a short video to look at (an '80's release of Adam Ant, not available in the US on YouTube and curiously, no longer available on Vimeo, where I watched it), and gave me another session in 8 days' time. 

When we met next, the conversation lasted less than 18 minutes. In that time he told me that I had been so seriously mind-controlled that the only other case like mine he had experience with was that of a man who had been trained as an assassin. That my case was gravely serious. That TPTB found me very valuable and had been hijacking my psychic gifts to use to their own ends - that they had been "mind-f@#..*g' me. That I was to think about whether I wished to work with him, that he wouldn't charge me, nor would he abandon me. I was in a bit of a state of shock, not quite sure of what to say, as it was just not in the area of possibilities about myself that I'd ever considered. The conversation was over before I really knew what was happening. To tell you the truth, I was intrigued. I've been what I call a 'truth spelunkerer' since around age fourteen, and I will consider most possibilities that merit looking into. I sent word the next day that I wished to go ahead, and that's when he disappeared. People who are close to me were very disturbed that I wasn't hearing back from him. I pretty much got angry and then I was over it, and moved on to work with someone else - a highly gifted and intuitive multi-dimensional healer. It's been quite a journey - but I digress.

Several days ago I received word that Simon would see me in two days' time. I accepted the appointment, because at some level I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt.


It started off nicely enough. I gave him a concise rundown of my own deep healing work and he cut in with (I paraphrase) "That's why F (not the person's actual initial) was angered and made that aggressive comment...". I began to address that, and wanted to explain , and I started with, "You know Simon, I sent F the video of that conversation, and it was as if you said I'd been f#**#d over by...", and I wasn't allowed to finish. He got extremely angry and said he'd never said that - not allowing me to speak for a good - well I don't know how long really, only that he went on and on, getting more vitriolic with each second . All I was trying to say is that "I began my sentence with 'it was as if you said'", but he just wasn't listening. (I actually do have the recording of the conversation we were talking about). He was extremely angry, and speaking in louder tones than one associates with him. He almost shouted that he was in the process of initiating litigation to sue F. There was an implied threat to me as well. When he stopped for a moment to actually breathe, I opened my mouth to speak, and that is when he hung up on me. I know the difference between a hang-up and when there is a loss of connection, as I have been using Skype for quite awhile, and on a daily basis. Final proof that he hung up on me is that he did not send any message afterward. The clocked Skype chat says four minutes and fifty seconds. I sent him a very strongly worded message afterward, but I have no illusions he'll read it.

He needs to think twice about making veiled threats about 'solicitors' and sending letters of intent. I was raised in a family of attorneys, some of whom have successfully argued major cases at the Supreme Court level in the US , and his reasoning is based on nothing, and he would be ridiculed no end. And the bottom line is that my friend had not at all slandered him. More important than any of the above is that as far as Simon was concerned, I was someone who had sought guidance, who in his opinion was very much in need of support. The good news is that I've learned how to take care of myself; however, if I were a person without a good sense of personal boundaries, Simon's attitude and behavior could have caused me harm. I want anyone who is thinking about booking a session with Simon Parkes to know about my first-hand experience.

Ultimately, I don't think it's responsible of me to keep silent about what happened. If my experience were only about avoidance and missed appointments, I wouldn't have said anything. This is different. My intention is to provide information for people to integrate, and then make their own decisions.

Whew! When I click the 'submit reply' button, I have a feeling it's going to feel like an initiation. :flower:

Warmly,
Bibi




 

[Bill Ryan]

.
Yes. Do read the above, from Bibi, carefully. None of this is okay (and that's an understatement).

Here's a slighted edited/redacted copy of a Skype chat I had with a very aware and well-informed friend (who I called 'A' below), yesterday. This person is well aware of Simon and some of the things he has said and done.

I would not be posting any of this publicly unless I knew it was factual.





Bill: Yes, Simon does say outrageous things to people, and with a completely straight face, a soft voice, and in a very undramatic, matter-of-fact way.

That's what 'hooks' them: the apparent straightness and sincerity. It's very manipulative. He does this compulsively, I suspect, and it disempowers the person he's talking to: makes them think he knows stuff that they don't, and encourages dependency.

And yes, that was the start of ______ 's change. [This was another friend, not mentioned on this thread, who had an affair with Simon back in 2014 and was badly damaged by it, also passing the damage on to others in a kind of cascading domino effect.]

A: Yes, that's Simon in a nutshell ... manipulative, disempowering, encouraging dependency. He may be partially or sometimes psychic, but he definitely gets some things completely wrong, and he's not at all spiritual. So that's all a very dangerous combination.

[Hervé]

. . .

https://www.sott.net/image/s16/326324/full/stinson.jpg

[A Voice from the Mountains]

He was extremely angry, and speaking in louder tones than one associates with him. He almost shouted that he was in the process of initiating litigation to sue F. There was an implied threat to me as well. When he stopped for a moment to actually breathe, I opened my mouth to speak, and that is when he hung up on me.

If all of this is true then it sounds like the one who needs therapy is Simon (from a real therapist, not a fake one).

When Simon talks about being sexually abused by extraterrestrials in his testimony, I can't help but think that there is some element of truth in that. Unfortunately I do not think it was ETs who were doing the abuse. People who suffer from traumatic stresses as a child are at a much higher risk of developing psychosis or other psychological disorders. It is a serious problem and one that people often forget exists in this world. Everyone has some amount of baggage just like no one makes it out of life alive, as they say. Though the man lies and seems aggressive I can't hold it against him because he likely has problems of his own.

As far as the lawsuits, at the rate he is/was charging for "counseling" sessions (£30 for 30 minutes, ie £60 an hour), if he put in 40 hours a week doing it he'd be making 6 figures a year. Even doing sessions for 20 people a week would add up to a big chunk of change over time. I'd say he'd be more than willing to throw around legal threats and maybe even carry one or two forward to preliminary hearings just to have people settle out of court, if he had to, because he could make it back from continuing his "counseling." Of course his claims would not actually stand up if taken to trial. He would sooner run risk of being committed as a result of a court case than win it.

[3(C)+me]

As a former talk counselor reading Bibi's account, half way through my month was hanging open in OMG...really?. The red flags are flying now. I will not even go into all the problems with his counseling approach, If I would do that in session I would have lost my license by now and Bill has covered all the reasons for him being, I think a danger to the public. Where is the do no harm clause.? I do remember on another thread someone had similar type session and was told things that were quite disturbing and I commented that if he is a gangster at some point he would be outed, if in fact, that were the case.
Well, that time has now come.

So he talks about how he treats trauma, gets traumatized people in session and then they get retraumtized all over again, brilliant!


Side note here: As I got to the middle of Bibi's post, I got a image of one of those psychic readers who tell a client, "you have a curse on you and only I can remove it "and it will cost you a such and such amount of money. don't worry dear, I will take care of you.
Yeah, right.

[Agape]

No one is his own doctor , the saying goes and ( never treat your family members ) :sun: when you get ill cover that as long as you can , treat everyone the same measure . (:))
Finally, get lost to know how the last fool really feels . You must know that too .

Get over it , that's right . Get over it as fast as possible and right NOW :ROFL: Alternatively, go and get a life ..
another life .

Stop pretending you can think for yourself ( it's the AI thinking for you ) , get stuff bear and do the therapy .

Never advertise yourself and don't accept bribes .

June 21 2016 A.D.

HAPPY SUMMER SOLSTICE EVERYBODY :heart:

[3(C)+me]

No one is saying don't seek treatment, but people take more time to find a good plumber than finding a counselor that is legit and will be helpful to them.
Sometimes you have to kiss a lot of frogs to find a prince, as they say.

[greybeard]

Its possible that Simon is transferring his own issues to clients
The mind is very powerful and can make imagined things seem so real.
There have been cases of the stigmata being real and visible to all during the life of the person disappearing completely without trace soon after the death of the body.
(Padre Peo) if my memory serves me correctly.
Such is the power of the mind, particularly strong when aligned with spiritual belief.

Chris.

[Agape]

No one is saying don't seek treatment, but people take more time to find a good plumber than finding a counselor that is legit and will be helpful to you.
Sometimes you have to kiss a lot of frogs to find a prince, as they say.

Well, to be honest , you may find me really old fashioned but I am not to the internet based education and therapy especially , at all.
Ultimately you need to pull yourself together (usually) to be able to find real friend in life ..
life is not a stationary place . Life is a journey that will find you somewhere else , tomorrow .

In my opinion also , 'selling' ET information or disseminating it under a business sort of scheme is direct misproduct of our times.
So are therapists .

People forgot how to talk to each other with sense , how to find partners for life and generally... lots of stuff about themselves their grandfather caveman still knew.

That's your 'terrestrial therapy'.

One should not confuse 'talking to friends' and 'disseminating ET information' with 'therapy' .
I would not know how to sell anything.

[Agape]

Its possible that Simon is transferring his own issues to clients
The mind is very powerful and can make imagined things seem so real.
There have been cases of the stigmata being real and visible to all during the life of the person disappearing completely without trace soon after the death of the body.
(Padre Peo) if my memory serves me correctly.
Such is the power of the mind, particularly strong when aligned with spiritual belief.

Chris.

Chris , it's inevitable but the following is also true and that's when I closed my desk in Lotus centre in 2008 because I needed my own time
and unlike Simon, I felt responsible for people coming to me as usually and none really was too eager to hear anything about 'aliens'.

Despite the meditation group i was lecturing for years before they were told of the ET event and data,
some helped me later with practical matters, others walked straight away .

Just for mentioning 'ET' , basically, for the tag such things do have across Europe ..


Not a good mixture of things at all. Spiritual guidance is best to focus on without distractions and research likewise . Then, they can meet on very good level.
But translating things , even teachings from one culture , not to mention ET civilisation to another is always risky .


:angel:

[3(C)+me]

Well, to be honest , you may find me really old fashioned but I am not to the internet based education and therapy especially , at all.
Ultimately you need to pull yourself together (usually) to be able to find real friend in life ..
life is not a stationary place . Life is a journey that will find you somewhere else , tomorrow

I remember being told early on in my training, I was told do not attempt to treat your friends and family. If you have a good friend who is objective and doesn't have an agenda of "I want you be change in ways I think you should change", well, then go ahead talk to your friend. But most people need a space where they are not known and talk about their difficulties with others, friends, wives, with someone who does not have a bone in this fight.
I was required I go through a few years of my own personal therapy before i could graduate and that was the best part of my education. Not writing some major work or taking this many classes.
And sometimes it takes a while before a relationship can happen where the trust is developed so the person can go out on a limb and really talk about things they find very difficult. It's always about the relationship. I have been lucky in that I had some great counselors who knew what they were doing.

[onawah]

I'm still finding some gems of information here and there in Simon's interviews with JayPee and other talks, though as with any whistleblower, discernment is always called for.
When it comes to "counseling", I think anyone who enlists Simon in that role should be aware of the kind of work he has been doing thus far, that he is not a professional or even very experienced in counseling, and that this is a money-making venue for him, however many free consultations he may be giving for those who are financially challenged.
So yes, "buyer beware" certainly applies in the counseling venue, just as the necessity for discernment applies in the whistleblowing venue, AND vice versa.
And especially anyone expecting the type of counseling that they would get from an experienced, professional counselor should be aware of ALL that.
Though I personally would not elect to have a "counseling" session with Simon, I have had sessions with so-called professionals which were quite useless, not to say harmful at times, so I am not very prone to enlist "professionals" for any kind of service at this point, either, for anything. I prefer to keep my own counsel, but that's just me.
...Though I've never had one of them actually yelling at me or scaring me, but then none of the professionals I've consulted were self-proclaimed part Reptilian part Mantid part Inner Earth human...
So how to qualify/classify this whole scenario by any normal standards is going to be difficult if not impossible.
As for his private conversations with individuals, whether astronauts or less famous folk, I would say that is their business and Simon's, and different standards would have to apply, though I really have no idea what those protocols might be.

[AutumnW]

Bsbray,

From what I have read here it seems that this man is a simple conman. Nothing more, nothing less. He doesn't have a psychosis, he has a character disorder. Highly manipulative, pulls the wool over people's eyes, makes outlandish claims. Charlatan, plain and simple. He hooks people, gets what he wants from them and then disappears.

[Chester]

As a former talk counselor reading Bibi's account, half way through my month was hanging open in OMG...really?. The red flags are flying now. I will not even go into all the problems with his counseling approach, If I would do that in session I would have lost my license by now and Bill has covered all the reasons for him being, I think a danger to the public. Where is the do no harm clause.? I do remember on another thread someone had similar type session and was told things that were quite disturbing and I commented that if he is a gangster at some point he would be outed, if in fact, that were the case.
Well, that time has now come.

So he talks about how he treats trauma, gets traumatized people in session and then they get retraumtized all over again, brilliant!


Side note here: As I got to the middle of Bibi's post, I got a image of one of those psychic readers who tell a client, "you have a curse on you and only I can remove it "and it will cost you a such and such amount of money. don't worry dear, I will take care of you.
Yeah, right.

Hi cccme and all members, readers,

I hope you will look back at this 18 months ago (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78593-Simon-Parkes-personal-reflections-upon...&p=918543&viewfull=1#post918543)

And I hope you will look at the responses (some yours) which I received back then.

I stand firm in my opinion that someone who plays a very proactive role in becoming "high profile" in the alt community which by its very nature has no formal regulatory oversight (as we wish and as we are glad for), should maintain as high a standards as possible - especially if they are counseling people regardless of whether it is "free" or if they then begin to charge as Simon did/does. And when they make a promise, keep it or at least apologize for no longer being able to. Dropping people without this simple courtious action is flat out unacceptable. Too busy? Give me a break. No professional therapist ever would operate this way in part because they would be out of business. The only reason someone gets away with this in this community is because there are far more vulnerables than those who might honestly and realistically assist because of the content discussed in this community.

Also, because of the nature of this community, I did the only thing I could 18 months ago and look how it was received. That "said far more about" me wasn't so correct after all. I wish more people would find the courage to share their experiences and share their opinions about them when it comes to what has become an industry - the alt community itself as the umbrella with many sub communities under the umbrella... the alt community media, the alt community "spiritual counselors," the alt community "experiencers," the alt community "whistle blowers," etc.

What does an industry benefit from when there's no regulation?

Watchdogs. Watchdog sites.

Unbiased, unagenda driven, uncompromisable, incorruptable.

Perhaps I wish for what can never be... but still one can dream.

If ever this was needed, it is now.

All just my opinion.

[Chester]

Bsbray,

From what I have read here it seems that this man is a simple conman. Nothing more, nothing less. He doesn't have a psychosis, he has a character disorder. Highly manipulative, pulls the wool over people's eyes, makes outlandish claims. Charlatan, plain and simple. He hooks people, gets what he wants from them and then disappears.

Or perhaps both and in fact even more...

[onawah]

I think it might also be good to take a look at this post from Bill in that thread that Sam linked to:http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78593-Simon-Parkes-personal-reflections-upon...&p=919782&viewfull=1#post919782
and this one from Spiritwind:http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78593-Simon-Parkes-personal-reflections-upon...&p=919877&viewfull=1#post919877
and this one from Billy: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78593-Simon-Parkes-personal-reflections-upon...&p=919907&viewfull=1#post919907
and finally, Sam's post here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78593-Simon-Parkes-personal-reflections-upon...&p=919969&viewfull=1#post919969 which he ends with
I have come to understand I have no enemy other than myself and only if I make myself so.
Granted, a lot of water has passed under the bridge since 2015, but have things really changed that much in the alternative community?
And please note that that thread was finally closed by Bill :http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78593-Simon-Parkes-personal-reflections-upon...&p=920021&viewfull=1#post920021
Is there any definitive, first hand proof that Simon has been abusive? Neglectful perhaps by professional standards, but actually abusive?
Simon's not perfect, but he's under a lot of pressure, as any whistleblower is, I think especially at this point in time.
Have our expectations of such a person simply been set too high?
Becky has a direct connection with Simon and I think more input from her would be of value in this discussion, also Callista.
I have no direct connection, but as a whistleblower, I think Simon is actually improving, if his discussions with Jay Pee on Wolf Spirit Radio are any indication.
I hope Avalon doesn't throw the baby out with the bathwater. :bathbaby::emptybath:

[Bibi]

In response to the following posts:



Is there any definitive, first hand proof that Simon has been abusive? Neglectful perhaps by professional standards, but actually abusive?
Simon's not perfect, but he's under a lot of pressure, as any whistleblower is, I think especially at this point in time.


No one is saying don't seek treatment, but people take more time to find a good plumber than finding a counselor that is legit and will be helpful to them.
Sometimes you have to kiss a lot of frogs to find a prince, as they say.


As a former talk counselor reading Bibi's account, half way through my month was hanging open in OMG...really?. The red flags are flying now. I will not even go into all the problems with his counseling approach, If I would do that in session I would have lost my license by now and Bill has covered all the reasons for him being, I think a danger to the public. Where is the do no harm clause.? I do remember on another thread someone had similar type session and was told things that were quite disturbing and I commented that if he is a gangster at some point he would be outed, if in fact, that were the case.
Well, that time has now come.

So he talks about how he treats trauma, gets traumatized people in session and then they get retraumtized all over again, brilliant!


Side note here: As I got to the middle of Bibi's post, I got a image of one of those psychic readers who tell a client, "you have a curse on you and only I can remove it "and it will cost you a such and such amount of money. don't worry dear, I will take care of you.
Yeah, right.

I would like to clarify my initial motivation in booking a session with Simon: I wanted a soul reading! That's it, pure and simple. I've had my share of therapy over the years, and the last thing on my mind was to engage Simon as a therapist. Until last month (May, 2016), I had waited in high anticipation for hearing about my "Star Family origins". I assume full responsibility for taking action upon hearing his pronouncement of my being a mind-control victim, at the hands of some nefarious elites. As I stated in my earlier post

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88999-Our-experience-with-Simon-Parkes&p=1075960&viewfull=1#post1075960

To tell you the truth, I was intrigued. I've been what I call a 'truth spelunker-er' since around age fourteen, and I will consider most possibilities that merit looking into.

I entered his arena at that point due mostly to my desire to get more information about my mysterious birth origins (adopted), and the fact that I was very intrigued. Not to mention shocked. I will also add here that I sought out and began to work with an outstanding and highly trained therapist with over 30 years experience in memory/past-life regression therapy immediately after Simon's initial pronouncement, while I was waiting for the last appointment I had with him. I have had many learning adventures since I came 'of age' in the sixties, and I was not so naive as to put all of my eggs in the Simon basket.

I saw him as an expert on subjects he had claimed to be an expert of. The bottom line is that he was unconscionably rude, completely unreasonable and exceedingly disrespectful of me. To sum up, I never considered him my 'therapist'.

Bibi

[greybeard]

There is very little evidence to back up what Simon claims to be so as regard to his soul etc.
However there are first hand reports of his attitude to wards several people who consulted him.
A professional ---no matter how stressed they are--will never act in a non professional way to a person looking for help, advice, what ever.
It is possible to harm vulnerable people quite easily, even unintentionally.
The well being of "clients" is more important .to my mind, than anything else.

Thats first hand having been a "therapist" for many years before I retired.

C

Ps When you are with a client, in order to be effective, you have to be there, totally with them --for them.

To be honest this also benefited me as it took my mind totally off my own stuff.





Chris

[Bill Ryan]

.
I'm copying this e-mail which I received from a non-Avalon member who reads the forum daily. Nothing has been changed or omitted apart from the session date and the person's name. It is posted here for the record.






Hello Bill, We've never spoke, and I am not a member of Avalon; but do peruse the posts daily. Want to thank you for making a statement regards Simon earlier today. Unfortunately, you can add my name to the list of a "client" that received a potentially damaging and negative assessment made by Simon, only to have no follow-up. Fortunately, I put the pieces together (many others had similar experiences) and was able to shrug it off, and realize the situation - but one still questions where that information may have come from or what the motive.

First session took place in [ date given ] after the original appointment two months earlier was missed by Simon.

Thanks for a great forum, all the best,

[ name and e-mail given ]

[onawah]

I think there may be people who want to slander Simon for reasons of their own which don't have anything to do with professional ethics.
If there is actual footage of a Skype session where Simon was being abusive, that would be definitive proof.
I think it also needs to be considered that there have been people who have been helped by Simon, people who would not have had other resources for the unusual kind of problems they are faced with.
He's not operating as a professional counselor, obviously, but I don't think it's completely fair to apply those kinds of standards either, since he is not claiming to have experience of that nature.
There should be some kind of happy medium; otherwise, we will just end up in the alternative community with a lot of hierarchical structure that doesn't work any better here than in the mainstream because it's too cumbersome and rigid.
This kind of struggle is happening on lots of levels now--I've been seeing it in numerous astrological descriptions of the current aspects, and we can see it in the US where the structure of the two political parties is breaking down, and the mob rule mentality of Trump supporters is helping to facilitate a breakdown of structure altogether.
We obviously need some structure, but I think the alternative community needs to find a way of realistically dealing with these issues that is flexible and appropriate to the unusual nature of the issues we deal with, and we haven't really done that yet, as far as I can see.
It's kind of like this: https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13428380_1162938820417693_2245506139965658637_n.jpg?oh=008fe46dfd7bbfd9a1c2ee18ea0d5878&oe=580AF3AB
IMHO.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Simon has always been courteous and respectful with me.
Months ago I shared a video of my session with Simon on PA (or maybe it was Skype) I would share again if I still had a copy.
If anyone has a copy I would enjoy getting a copy back. It was a very pleasant conversation.

For me, getting readings is fun. It is entertainment. Sometimes there is valuable information, sometimes not.
I would really prefer more clarity and be my own psychic.

I still do not understand why I was suddenly removed from access to his Facebook page, and also access using Skype. Never found out why.

Sometime after that I started getting what I think were psychic attacks. One evening I woke up with something next to my bed. It felt familiar. When I asked myself who it was, the answer was his lovely assistant. Yet instantly I also knew this was an imposter. The imposter hissed at me. I hissed back and went back to sleep.

Ref: Link to a PA post that Simon posted on Facebook (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84886-Simon-Parkes-The-Alien-Agenda-August-2015&p=1000578&viewfull=1#post1000578)

My gut feeling is that something is/was masquerading as Simon and Fran in the dream state to create fear and discourage contact. But it is always best to be your own psychic.

[Alberto e Daniela]

Becky has a direct connection with Simon and I think more input from her would be of value in this discussion, also Callista.
I have no direct connection, but as a whistleblower, I think Simon is actually improving, if his discussions with Jay Pee on Wolf Spirit Radio are any indication.
I hope Avalon doesn't throw the baby out with the bathwater. :bathbaby::emptybath:

Onawah,

if you had no direct connection, and are basing yourself on the public interviews, you are clearly referring to Simon's public figure. And there is no doubt that Simon's public talks are charming. That is precisely the main reason he gets so many requests for private readings and consultations.

Here the thread is about his private consultations, as experienced directly by several people.

We are talking about two different topics; you might consider them two different people. Haven't you ever seen someone who behaves in one way in public, and in another way when in private?

[PRAGMAE]

I will be the "out of topic" guy on this one.

First of all I think we can all get the proper weapons to fight what targets us, on OUR OWN. By using spirituality for some, music for others, arts, conversation... It's not easy AT ALL, but it's possible.
I won't go into personal details but I know alienation through a "hardcore mode" life start. Fun that I'm still here talking to someone and enjoying more and more this life :)
I don't see the point to pay someone to help us through skype, wich is one more a CIA / IA maker / crazy data dealers tool than a reliable, FREE way to "connect" people. I'm an IT guy and I'm more and more disgusted with the web, darkweb, VR...

I live in france. I can't go to any conventions on our mutual subjects (whitleblowing), Simon's conferences or some other synapse climax meeting because there are none in this country.
I tell you that because you people know more Simon than I do. And English isn't my native language, so I do what I can. by the way, sorry for the poor english, mistakes... Just want to send you love and strength with this post, 0 aggression.

The problem I see here is not about Simon. For me, he's the one who needs help and I tell that without even thinking of what happened to him when he was a child. I prefer focusing on the present.
The man got a position, a knowledge and he do all he can to share it. Yes, it looks like sci fi but that's is the definition of whistleblowing (Wiki : Science fiction is a genre of speculative fiction dealing with imaginative concepts such as futuristic science and technology, space travel, time travel, faster than light travel, parallel universes and extraterrestrial life...).
With that definition I can see that : A=> media use and abuse of those two words to make us look like fools / B=> I'm 100% sci fi guy.

So I prefer sending what's left of my energy (and I got lot lot more !) to someone like him who can, eventually do something bigger to the mass. I don't understand why he went on this ground (healing thing). Others do this way better I think. Of course a therapist GOT to do all the things the client payed for, or make a refund with big apologies and a new therapist adress.

Here, I don't see a therapist or healer BUT I can say that his interviews (not only his) makes me feel better and give me hope. My mind is drinking all then try to analyze it. Honestly, it becomes a mess but I love it. The final picture of the puzzle looks horrible, I have to build it with a billion pieces, but I'll do my best. I'm even on a no white light mode and will do my best to test it if my mind is ready when the moment will come.

Simon's speech looks like sci fi. Yes, like all whistleblowers. Those guys live on earth, are human (got human shell), got anoyning friends/family members like us all, breath the same air, sickness...
I tell that because I think we got to always remember those guys have the same stress/presion (maybe more) because there mind know (or belive / think) something higher uses strings to play with us. In my job, sometimes, I also doesn't respond to some clients because I can't / won't (not the good moment for me, or they are pushing me too much).

I think it's easier to fight when you don't know all the enemy forces because it awakes human feelings wich I think are degrading all kinds of patterns in the brain, reflexes, judgment... Wich deserves us when we really need to fight back.

When something is bad, you start to fight to make the situation better, even if you don't know who/what attacks you. Simon knows a lot (or think he knows, almost the same for the brain). He should focus (with all my respect) on his main task, kill the big eyeball in the sky / mass opening mind / third eye / brain connexions / human connexions and help less people but with a full-opened-heart mindset and stop his "Services" section (on his website).

Once again, sorry for the off topic, just wanna share with you my opinion and how a guy like Simon, even with his ups and downs (like all humans), help me.
We are in a world were even whistleblowers are manipulated. Not an easy situation indeed.

Keep your money, work your own, don't spend years with pseudo masters / gurus, and I'm not talking about you Simon but more about the esoteric-school (lol) mentioned in the opening post. Do your best.

You people got the key in yourself, knowledge is accessible with the good eyes.

[onawah]

(Apologies again. I have asked Becky for permission to post her comments from the members only thread back here again, and that should be forthcoming. )

More good points and not at all off topic, I would say.

I will be the "out of topic" guy on this one.


For anyone in this discussion who hasn't also seen the other concurrent discussion about Simon, I think this post especially from Becky in that thread is appropriate for this one as well:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1420-Simon-Parkes-about-Mantis-Aliens-Reptiles-and-other-aliens.&p=1075140&viewfull=1#post1075140
Hi Onawah,

I just wanted to add some info which may help clarify matters on some of your concerns. I do Simon's bookings now, and I know Simon does not call what he does 'counselling' although he does have some natural counselling skills , the majority of his calls are just people who have questions and want to chat with him personally. He has many skypes with people which are just conversations and I would hazard a good guess that the people he's mentioned were people he had conversations with and were not counselling sessions. I do appreciate your concern and caution, but I can assure you Simon respects privacy highly.

I also wanted to add here (this is not in response to you Onawah) and not on the other thread, as I just don't want to add fuel to any fire there ...Simon is working tirelessly to get through as many past missed consultations, with mine and coordinators help in other countries, and to have consultations with new people who are requesting them. He literally has 1000's of emails to get through which I personally find very daunting, it's a big enough task when he gives me batches of 30 or so as each booking creates quite a bit of work. He also faces daily issues with his technology which is quite frustrating and sometimes several bookings from one day have to be rebooked as his computer network has been 'cut off' or skype quality which can be great suddenly takes a nose dive and is bad for days. Many people have problems connecting to him even when I'm there to talk them through it and then they get cut off many times (most of the time I'm at work so can't). Every week I leave 2-3 free slots for either emergency bookings or for missed consultations so people don't have to keep waiting weeks for another if theirs was missed due to poor skype connection. And every week these are filled!

Basically Simon does work very hard to see the people who want to see him, he often doesn't charge if people cant afford it, and he does many repeat consultations for those that need it. I know because I book them. And the vast majority of people are very happy with their experience. It's just when someone isn't that it's made public. I personally find this hard, but am doing my best to help keep things flowing smoothly, which sometimes is not easy! I hope people can understand and appreciate this.[Mod-edit: I restored the quoted material upon receiving Becky's permission, Hervé]

[Frenchy]

Don't see how this is off-topic ! Still focussed on SP ! Wish my French was as fluent as your English !

btw CC has also a French contact......... But , oddly enough she never replied to me..... R they looking to register potential recruits RH blood groups, or simply putting some on an ' exclusion list ', when the ' harvest starts... ! ' lol, [ perhaps ]

[Frenchy]

[QUOTE=alexius;1048901]
"Trust your fellow man but check up on him." I liked the part "check up on him".
32899

Nic one Ron ! Reminds me of a Lady named Sarah Adams [ Bases Project ] who, in one of her Blogs suggested,
" It OK to test friends... " ! Always evaluate the bridge before you cross :-))

[Sean]

I know I posted somewhere in this thread..but I want to reiterate that I think people GIVE AWAY THEIR POWER when they simply believe and trust the "Simon's" of the world. This guy tells bigger whoppers than Wilcock. Look..we all have the potential to connect to source..we don't need to go to anyone for a soul reading..there's plenty of credible information out there. Take it in, and discern. Keep the valuable, discard the rest. No one is saying that NO ONE is worth listening to. I'm saying the answers are inside, not outside..

I honestly think that the spiritual"industry" preys on the low self-esteem of others. We are all powerful souls..understand that, wake YOURSELF up, and read your own darn soul :) Stop depending on others who claim such powers and alien backgrounds,you(we) might have the same if you dig into yourself deep enough.

[Blue Radiance]

Daniela and Alberto, I'll just say you got off easy. My experiences with Simon were far worse than yours.

[Blue Radiance]

:bump:

I'm bumping this important thread, and have something to say.

Much of the time I've not said a lot about Simon Parkes, apart from agreeing earlier (in my posts #9 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88999-Our-experience-with-Simon-Parkes&p=1048222&viewfull=1#post1048222) and #31 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88999-Our-experience-with-Simon-Parkes&p=1048222&viewfull=1#post1048222)) that abandoning clients in the middle of a process, without warning or explanation, is a pretty unkind thing to do. At least! It's against the protocols of any qualified therapist that I know, whatever their discipline or ability. You just don't do that.

It's just now come to my attention, with all details supplied to me personally from a totally reliable source, that Simon is still doing this. I'm compelled to speak out with a clear personal statement.

In this most recent instance, not only did Simon break an agreement to get back to the person in question, but prior to that he had dumped a very harmful, heavy, and almost certainly incorrect judgement on them. If the person concerned hadn't been as tough as they are, they could have been flattened and really long-term damaged by that.

So, I'm saying this, on record.


Simon is not a qualified therapist.
He does not follow the protocols of a qualified therapist.
He breaks those protocols inasmuch as he frequently tells people things about themselves that may not be true in any way. That's 100% disempowering, and is 100% unethical.
It's on record that he frequently breaks appointments, abandons clients without reason or explanation, or in other ways fails to follow up on people who he may already have disempowered, or may have become dependent on him in some way. No qualified therapist does that, either.

It's always been the case with myself (and many others, of course), that because I have a voice — or at least a bit of one — what I say or don't say is noticed, and apparent non-comment can often be misinterpreted as agreement, compliance, or maybe not even caring.

That's just not the case, of course. Sometimes I really don't know a lot, or don't have much value to add, and sometimes I'm just collecting more information so I can get really clear about things.

In Simon's instance, I've not known the facts with any high degree of certainty, beyond 3rd or 4th hand reports.

But now, I do.

I believe, with reason, that contracting Simon as a counselor might be subjecting oneself to harm, whether this is consciously intended by Simon or not.

So I'm now also saying: I cannot endorse or recommend Simon's counseling of anyone.

Amen, Amen, & Amen!.

[Agape]

I know I posted somewhere in this thread..but I want to reiterate that I think people GIVE AWAY THEIR POWER when they simply believe and trust the "Simon's" of the world. This guy tells bigger whoppers than Wilcock. Look..we all have the potential to connect to source..we don't need to go to anyone for a soul reading..there's plenty of credible information out there. Take it in, and discern. Keep the valuable, discard the rest. No one is saying that NO ONE is worth listening to. I'm saying the answers are inside, not outside..

I honestly think that the spiritual"industry" preys on the low self-esteem of others. We are all powerful souls..understand that, wake YOURSELF up, and read your own darn soul :) Stop depending on others who claim such powers and alien backgrounds,you(we) might have the same if you dig into yourself deep enough.



Yes exactly about 'soul readings' and other type of 'knowledge' someone else is supposed to have on you, for you, instead of you.

I think I either posted or wrote and deleted this little bit but it's not enough to repeat many times to people till things change for better .
There are millions ( literally ) of known and unknown gurus, therapists , healers, prophets, card and soul readers , magic experts , shamans and charlatans nowadays and there will be more of them with every next generation getting smarter and more informed .

Ask the average educated EU kid about Tarot reading or the Atlantis nowadays and they all know, sometimes , more than your 'average Avalonian'. It's just for the generation difference.
Few decades ago, this was not a common knowledge except for 'initiated individuals' and 'circles'.
It's turning to common entertainment today and it's also fairly logical that with more education in all from physics , biology, medicine , history and so on,
children ask who are they and where do we come from and are eager to explore the answers.

But , you know, offering them an explanation for over-population that goes like ''this planet is being seeded by millions of Antareans, Andromedeans , Pleiadeans '' who are here to assist the 'transition process leaves your rationality somewhere behind the door .
It's not much better than telling them ( and yourself ) than it all possibly is a magic trick and making was created by not-so-benevolent deity 6000 years ago.

It's what the society fancy-tailored of the few genuine cases of ET contact that actually happened .

It's why all the agencies warned you and want to have to do nothing with any of us and why no one went public for ages,
fear of ridicule and character assassination is on one extreme end ... and attracting followers who all want or believe themselves to have experiences is on the other end .

They're both extremes but as if there's no decent option in between .

I'm going through this 'no option' process for so many years now it's feeling real bad , at any rate.

But the trend of 'faithers' and 'experiencers' is common , common 'threat' to many spiritual students and groups who gather around those claiming any sort of special experience because the ordinary , secular society is yearning for a piece of magic and miracle .
There's no way how to apologise to people for having [or experiencing] things they don't or can't . People know there are short cuts even if unsafe,
all from drugs to holotropic breathing , virtual reality, all kinds of methods that can make you to have psychic experience.

It's not what SPIRITUAL teachings are all about. Unfortunately , in the west and even among the academic circles people have ZERO idea about the original and authentic spiritual teachings and methods.
All the society knows and clings to are methods being made and sold to them by another 'like them' people.

It's all FAKE. It can be very dangerous too.

It's not my teaching . My students and when I started to teach meditation and philosophy in Prague back in 1993 went through all the explorations of their own then they'd come back to tell me about it.
I always told them to go and explore, why not. People always inquired about experiences and had to be explained how experiences are not a sign of spiritual achievement of any kind , maximally a mile stone on your way.

Talking on this over the net, for over too many years now, gets me nearly crazy . With the internet gurus talking down to me , exactly this person who guided others most carefully on their spiritual path ,
and 'guesstimating me' for 'experiencer' , more exactly because I am not the type.
Because coming from another culture and so forth, does not make you to talk that fast or with the level of confidence they're accustomed to here no matter what they do.

It needs no 'authority' to be arrogant in your judgements. Even the last of my meditation students would happen upon the 'experiencer' loop and suspect me from nescience .

People with IQs in the higher range should be smarter .

For being 'experiencers' you need no ufology club .

:flower:

[Ron Mauer Sr]

I see readings as entertainment. The information may or may not be useful, but can be fun to talk about and to stimulate one's imagination.

We are here to learn. Giving power away, dis-empowerment is not something I want to do.

"Trust your fellow man but check up on him" a wise man once told me. Excellent advice.

Edgar Cayce recommended, "Be your own psychic." He has a pretty good track record, although the information had too much of a religious flavor for me.

[Agape]

I see readings as entertainment. The information may or may not be useful, but can be fun to talk about and to stimulate one's imagination.

We are here to learn. Giving power away, dis-empowerment is not something I want to do.

"Trust your fellow man but check up on him" a wise man once told me. Excellent advice.

Edgar Cayce recommended, "Be your own psychic." He has a pretty good track record, although the information had too much of a religious flavor for me.



People do , some people ..that is. Possibly many . If the teacher is genuine and after 'serious spiritual work' they will recognise that - of all things - in less than few minutes and they may decide to turn you away ,
saying 'sorry [Ron] , I'm not doing this for entertainment' . I did say so to few people in days back , not too many actually, I've considered myself lucky for not being visited by trolls frequently but they're common in groups .

If you 'seriously spiritual' ( does not have to mean 'serious' ) some things are sort of , too 'under your gait' . If you're tuned to helping others and abiding on the frequency that is benevolent and can give blessings ,
doing it 'for fun' would take yourself down together with the student.

It makes nothing wrong with 'doing things for fun' and being your own prophet .

In old times, the teacher would always have the option to turn a person away if they saw something impure in their minds that they could not fix, for example .
With all the sources available online nowadays , everyone is a teacher .

Also the way people actually interact without seeing or knowing each other well but 'casting lots' , remote viewing and whatever viewing .. is more or less fun.


If you are genuine in your spiritual endeavours you would know how much /how many people can you deep process during a day .. a week, a year.
Deeper you go and are, those numbers decrease .

I do get emails and all kinds of messages from people contacting me, intuitively over my testimony, all those years ..
but my approach is very different . I try to say thanks in each case and allow the other share their story or answer their question to my best ability
but I'd find myself in pickle if I tried to maintain regular contact with all those unknown individuals soon.
I let people get to the point from where I see if I could be of any help . If I can't , I usually tell them too and try to close the conversation.
Because there are many loners out there who really miss nothing but everyday chit-chat .
It does not mean they're not worthy of me but this is just internet, with millions of people online and the truth is , they should not waste their precious time on me because someone , somewhere , have to be their 'right friend'.

Chit-chat even if 'spiritual sounding' is still not more than that .

[BMJ]

He has stated that he is being gangstalked so how credible are these people that are slinging the mud. Someone, or a dozen someones whom I do not know at all making a statement that seem fairly consist from one person to another doesn't mean they are telling the truth and they can be working together, who knows.
And I speak from experience being gangstalked myself having had similiar accusations probably made from a half dozen people that I am peodophile and woman basher slung at me from people I don't know and I know to be untrue and laughable considering I am a full time carer for my best friend whom is a woman and victim of child abuse, and I have her complete support and that of her mothers in my role.

Below is a video go to the 47.30 mark it interesting:

https://vimeo.com/126314745

[onawah]

I was of two minds about this for awhile, until looking back at Becky's post, where she said that Simon isn't counseling so much as just talking with people and trying to answer their questions.
Counseling and talking with people are really two different things, and I don't think the standards that professional counselors are held to should apply in this case.

This is beginning to feel like a bit of witchhunt to me.
If all whistleblowers are going to be subject to this kind of "trial" with no actual evidence being presented except hearsay, then I imagine there won't be many whistleblowers coming forth in the future.
If coming out with secret information means being attacked from ALL sides, :nhl_checking:and if even conspiracy theorists don't stick up for them, why should they take the trouble?
My goal has always been to simply find out what Simon knows about what's going on the world.
He doesn't have a perfect track record on that score, either, but who does?
I don't think it's realistic to expect more of a whistleblower than that, and that alone is more than most people would be willing to take on.

Blue Radiance;1077160]

So I'm now also saying: I cannot endorse or recommend Simon's counseling of anyone.

Amen, Amen, & Amen!.

[onawah]

Apologies. I didn't realize I was copying from a member's only thread. I've sent Bluegreen a PM asking for permission, so hopefully I will be able to copy that again and still be in order! :blushing:


This is a post Bluegreen made from the other, concurrent thread on Simon which I think bears repeating here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1420-Simon-Parkes-about-Mantis-Aliens-Reptiles-and-other-aliens.&p=1076623&viewfull=1#post1076623
[Mod-edit: I removed the quoted material since it belongs to a "Members' Only" thread, Hervé]
Bluegreen gave me permission [verified, Hervé] to copy that message, so here it is again:
Default Re: Simon Parkes about Mantis Aliens, Reptiles and other aliens.
Not qualified to stick my nose in here but I'm going to anyway
I am seeing a pattern:
- "Whistleblower" comes forth with "new information"
- Avalonians fall all over themselves
- Said "whistleblower" is revealed to have holes in said "new information" or "personal character"
- Avalonians dismiss said individual, sometimes with sarcastic remarks et al etc
Examples:
Charles
Corey
Ruiner
Wilcock
Greer
Now Parkes
I am glad to have had the opportunity to read about all of these individual's "stories"
I've gotten something that I consider to be "worthwhile" from each
I want all the information I can get
I can "discern" later
What "resonates" to me is I am getting a more accurate picture of the world around me than the MSM gives me
From all of them
Recently we are getting an onslaught of believable and documented information about electronic mind control techniques available to the GC's
Which a few forum members have been telling us for years
So what I agree with is, let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater
And please, let's not "trash" anybody

[Ines]

I know I posted somewhere in this thread..but I want to reiterate that I think people GIVE AWAY THEIR POWER when they simply believe and trust the "Simon's" of the world. This guy tells bigger whoppers than Wilcock. Look..we all have the potential to connect to source..we don't need to go to anyone for a soul reading..there's plenty of credible information out there. Take it in, and discern. Keep the valuable, discard the rest. No one is saying that NO ONE is worth listening to. I'm saying the answers are inside, not outside..

I honestly think that the spiritual"industry" preys on the low self-esteem of others. We are all powerful souls..understand that, wake YOURSELF up, and read your own darn soul :) Stop depending on others who claim such powers and alien backgrounds,you(we) might have the same if you dig into yourself deep enough.

This is so true, workingactor. I still amazed how many people called themselves "spiritual" without being "empowered" and still live by "paradigms" of waiting to find a Mesiah, some one to "follow".

I confess I "use to do that" through Religion first (with my parents guide), then I join a Gnostic group of Study, but as soon as I started to "educate" myself, just by reading all the information I could find in books first, and then in the Internet, conferences videos and learning what was going on in the world, I made an informed choice of NOT follow any "guru" of any kind.

How did I made that choice ?... just by using and developing my own faculties through meditation (you can pick your favorite techique). My Discernment and
Intuition got boosted when I started working in connecting with my Higher Self. That´s the best way to connect to Source (God). You have to be very alert when you start meditating, before you start, you "ask" any "foreing entities" of any kind, not to come near you; you just tell them: "you are not allowed to come near me, go away, you are not invited here". They have to honor your command because of "free will", Universal Law. If they don´t do it, they know there will be "consequences" because they were told they were not "invited".
Sometimes people do some rituals which are NOT necessary and only shows "fear" to them. We have to empowered ourselves.

:flower:

[Biff]

From what I gather, Simon came out as a contactee and illuminati insider, no? He then spends a few years doing conferences, then he starts in on Skype 'readings'. I've listened to Simon and I don't buy half the stuff he spews. Not even close. He's a talker is all. And now we are getting first hand reports that his readings are causing people issues because he tells then outrageous things about themselves, that they need follow up 'work' but he leaves them hanging.

I think he should go back to giving driving lessons. In my eyes he's failed as a whistleblower (he speaks any and all nonsense, buzzwords to make people go 'ahhh') and he's failed as a soul reader. It's pretty easy to gauge what his readings are like. Something like, "yes yes, you are part reptile and under surveillance by TPTB. Plus, you're mind controlled a little. Now go tell others how special and oppressed you are and come back next month for another installment of my BS. That is, if you can reach me, I'm very busy talking to astronauts and world leaders like Putin."

Saved you 30 bucks on your reading there.

It's not entertaining to people who take it seriously. Telling someone they are reptilian or mind controlled can really F with their head.

[Biff]

I totally support what Bill has just said.

Unfortunately, over the past few months, we have become aware of situations with several people who have turned to Simon for assistance, only to be dropped by Simon for reasons unknown. This is an area of grave concern for me, as I have been a supporter of Simon over the past two years and have often defended him. However, due to recent events to which I am privy, I see situations have arisen where Simon is not honouring those who reach out to him and thus sometimes leaves these people in a far worse situation than before they contacted him.


The amount of reports against Simon, public and private, can not be ignored at this point. If he's taken too much on, that's one thing, but it's also the quality of what is being said to people in these readings that is worrisome too, as many have already noted, including Bill Ryan.

Onawah, I read this forum a lot before joining. I feel like I know a lot of people here. I didn't join just to make my last post about Simon. Not everything is a conspiracy.

[onawah]

What qualifies you to make that call, Biff?
The number of reports in favor of Simon should also not be ignored, and there are plenty of them, probably many more than those which are negative.
Again, where is the first hand proof that Simon has been saying worrisome things to these people?
And how many of these people are caught in "victim mode" or are people that Simon simply cannot help?
How many people who go to professional counselors have similar complaints about the feedback they have received?
Simon has been devoting a lot of time to these calls and not charging for them.
I doubt that there are many who would do that.
I don't think he should be penalized for picking and choosing who he will respond to.

There are things going on behind the scenes which make this much more complicated than it may appear on the surface, and I imagine that will come out eventually; hopefully soon.

Anyone who is listening to the interviews with Jay Pee on Wolf Spirit Radio will note that there are many intelligent people asking important and well-informed questions, and Simon has been doing a pretty good job of answering them.
The numbers of callers and listeners to those shows have been off the charts, not with complaints, but with interested listeners (including astronauts...).
Simon is gaining new allies, such as Win Keech, whose credentials are very good, and Kerry Cassidy, who needs no recommendation here on Avalon.
There are conspiracies within conspiracies!

[Savannah]

A couple of years ago I made an appointment for a reading with Simon. As you may know you have to pay him BEFORE you receive the reading and that is very unusual. Since we are in different countries the time difference made it difficult and I had to set my alarm and be up at 4 am. You guessed it, he never called. When I emailed asking what’s up I got a robo email saying sorry we are on vacation for a week. I left a message that I was flabbergasted he did this to me. He never called or mailed. Two weeks later I left a message that I paid for something I never received and that was not ok and if he didn’t arrange to reschedule I would contact Pay Pal. That seemed to get his attention. He emailed saying his computer had problems and he would reschedule. In the email to him I explained I was a therapist and how important it was to maintain ethical practices and if you don’t people will lose trust in you. I even gave him some suggestions about scheduling, phones and computers I thought might help, I just wanted to help him. Another two weeks went by and I hear noting from him about rescheduling. I contacted Pay Pal and put in a complaint. He responded to Pay Pal that he tried to reschedule but “I” didn’t cooperate. So not only does he have no ethical concerns about keeping appointments he lied about me. He did reimburse the money because he had to or there would have been repercussions from pay pal and that would end is business.

[Bibi]

I am not here to sling mud at anyone. That is part of an old paradigm, and I am weary of it. I posted my experience in this thread with the intention of focusing light and information to those who will benefit from it. I have received thank-you's from a few of those folks, who wish to remain private, and that is very satisfying.

We have moved into some very intense energies (cosmically affecting our consciousness and behavior) and I see the value for all of respectfully agreeing to disagree in conversations involving many, each holding unique and individual viewpoints. That being said, I will draw the line when my personal and individual boundaries are potentially threatened, or have already been compromised. The action I took to post here was that of being in my personal integrity regarding the responsibility of not remaining silent. Inasmuch as this action originated from a completely subjective experience, it is everyone's sovereign right to do the same in a mature, and reasonable manner. I point to the words 'maturity', sovereign right', and 'responsibility' and say that these ask for contemplation and thoughtfulness on the individual's part.

I will end by sharing what I didn't in my original post. I interviewed Simon a little over a year ago for my then fledgling podcast, and it was, and will remain, a highlight when I choose to look back at memories. He was quite delightful and patient with my colleague and I, considering our lack of experience. His message was, and still is, timely: that it is high time for us to spiritually mature. He stated "Humanity is its own cavalry". That really says it all.
~ Bibi

[onawah]

As I'm sure you know, Savannah, as it has been stated here many times, Simon is quite dyslexic and has had to rely on others to handle many aspects of his email correspondence, Skyping, finances, etc.
That assistance that he has had to depend on quite heavily has sometimes been done by volunteers.
I'm not a member of Connecting Consciousness and so I don't know this first hand, but I believe that has been the case, and so his affairs have not always been handled in a professional or consistent manner.
And like most volunteer situations, people would come and go and also had different agendas.
I don't think Simon only reimbursed you because he had to, I think it's more likely that he was not even aware of the details of your transaction, or perhaps was too overwhelmed at the time to deal with it satisfactorily.
Again, to hold Simon to the same standards as a professional therapist or counselor is not being fair--he has been pretty out front about not being a professional and about the administrative problems he has had, which have been numerous.

I think he genuinely thought there were going to be people that he could help because he is familiar with things like mind control, problems with unfriendly entities and spirits, etc. that many professionals have no clue about.
He has had to deal with that kind of problem himself since he was a child, and probably isn't done with it yet himself.
Granted, he has been naive and is obviously unacquainted/or unpracticed with the protocols that professionals and more experienced people learn about along the way.
He rushed in where wise men would probably not have ventured at all.
But I think he is learning his lesson big time now and hopefully will stop attempting to do more than he can actually handle.
His strengths are in his role as whistleblower and hopefully he will continue to get supported in that role, because I think we need as many whistleblowers with inside information as we can get, even if they aren't always right.
They aren't infallible, they are just humans who have taken on a very heavy mission, subject to lots of attacks and subterfuge and other sticky problems.
I think we need to cut them some slack when they are obviously trying very hard to do what they can, which I think is the case with Simon.
Not to say that they don't need to hear criticism, because I think they do, but it should take into consideration all the factors that are in play in each individual case.
Hopefully we will all learn some valuable lessons from this process, and will be better equipped to deal with such problems as they come up in the future, as they surely will...



A couple of years ago I made an appointment for a reading with Simon. As you may know you have to pay him BEFORE you receive the reading and that is very unusual. Since we are in different countries the time difference made it difficult and I had to set my alarm and be up at 4 am. You guessed it, he never called. When I emailed asking what’s up I got a robo email saying sorry we are on vacation for a week. I left a message that I was flabbergasted he did this to me. He never called or mailed. Two weeks later I left a message that I paid for something I never received and that was not ok and if he didn’t arrange to reschedule I would contact Pay Pal. That seemed to get his attention. He emailed saying his computer had problems and he would reschedule. In the email to him I explained I was a therapist and how important it was to maintain ethical practices and if you don’t people will lose trust in you. I even gave him some suggestions about scheduling, phones and computers I thought might help, I just wanted to help him. Another two weeks went by and I hear noting from him about rescheduling. I contacted Pay Pal and put in a complaint. He responded to Pay Pal that he tried to reschedule but “I” didn’t cooperate. So not only does he have no ethical concerns about keeping appointments he lied about me. He did reimburse the money because he had to or there would have been repercussions from pay pal and that would end is business.

[Blue Radiance]

He has stated that he is being gangstalked so how credible are these people that are slinging the mud. Someone, or a dozen someones whom I do not know at all making a statement that seem fairly consist from one person to another doesn't mean they are telling the truth and they can be working together, who knows.
And I speak from experience being gangstalked myself having had similiar accusations probably made from a half dozen people that I am peodophile and woman basher slung at me from people I don't know and I know to be untrue and laughable considering I am a full time carer for my best friend whom is a woman and victim of child abuse, and I have her complete support and that of her mothers in my role.

Below is a video go to the 47.30 mark it interesting:

https://vimeo.com/126314745

Most of those of us going to him for help are being gangstalked.

[BMJ]

I'm sorry to here your in the same situation Blue Radiance, it's not something I would wish upon anyone.

Link: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83824-Gangstalking..is-this-REALLY-a-thing/page2

[Alberto e Daniela]

Hello, just to clarify what Simon does or doesn't,

here is the page where Simon lists the services he offers (http://simonparkes.wix.com/home#!blank/c9sh), including Deprogramming and Mind Healing, and Jinn and Demonic possession removal. Here is the page where he advises you what to do while you await the consultation (http://simonparkes.wix.com/home#!jinndemonic-possession/c1abs).

This is not a simple conversation. Consultation is a lot more...

By the way "Consultants accept ultimate responsibility for the care of all the patients referred to them,[1] so the job carries significant personal responsibility." (wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consultant_(medicine)))

[Sean]

A couple of years ago I made an appointment for a reading with Simon. As you may know you have to pay him BEFORE you receive the reading and that is very unusual. Since we are in different countries the time difference made it difficult and I had to set my alarm and be up at 4 am. You guessed it, he never called. When I emailed asking what’s up I got a robo email saying sorry we are on vacation for a week. I left a message that I was flabbergasted he did this to me. He never called or mailed. Two weeks later I left a message that I paid for something I never received and that was not ok and if he didn’t arrange to reschedule I would contact Pay Pal. That seemed to get his attention. He emailed saying his computer had problems and he would reschedule. In the email to him I explained I was a therapist and how important it was to maintain ethical practices and if you don’t people will lose trust in you. I even gave him some suggestions about scheduling, phones and computers I thought might help, I just wanted to help him. Another two weeks went by and I hear noting from him about rescheduling. I contacted Pay Pal and put in a complaint. He responded to Pay Pal that he tried to reschedule but “I” didn’t cooperate. So not only does he have no ethical concerns about keeping appointments he lied about me. He did reimburse the money because he had to or there would have been repercussions from pay pal and that would end is business.


That is not the behavior of an "advanced soul".

[Agape]

Hello, just to clarify what Simon does or doesn't,

here is the page where Simon lists the services he offers (http://simonparkes.wix.com/home#!blank/c9sh), including Deprogramming and Mind Healing, and Jinn and Demonic possession removal. Here is the page where he advises you what to do while you await the consultation (http://simonparkes.wix.com/home#!jinndemonic-possession/c1abs).

This is not a simple conversation. Consultation is a lot more...

By the way "Consultants accept ultimate responsibility for the care of all the patients referred to them,[1] so the job carries significant personal responsibility." (wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consultant_(medicine)))


IF you or anyone else here are in need of spiritual protection of the benevolent ET kind , ask for it .. here or in PM.

There are few good people around this forum including myself who may be able to assist , accidentally .
Serious problems in life take time to resolve .

I don't trust the internet with this a lot . It's getting fashionable together with tele-medicine but I've seen how much time is spent online in waste ( trial-error ) compared to the quality of results , compared to real life settings .

Be intuitive thinker . Believe the subtle side of you and the higher principle having automatic preference . Avoid brute force . Every little piece of the force you save becomes your will power over the lower realms.
Lower beings invite people to partake of their energy , drag you down through anger , desire or pure naivety .

There's no one way to destroy them all but there are many ..


No one should be mocked here when in trouble asking for advice . Simon also once came as humble contactee asking ..

The agenda is unfortunately about few high profiled cases and many others getting blatantly ignored .


:angel:

[Savannah]

As I'm sure you know, Savannah, as it has been stated here many times, Simon is quite dyslexic and has had to rely on others to handle many aspects of his email correspondence, Skyping, finances, etc.
That assistance that he has had to depend on quite heavily has sometimes been done by volunteers.
I'm not a member of Connecting Consciousness and so I don't know this first hand, but I believe that has been the case, and so his affairs have not always been handled in a professional or consistent manner.
And like most volunteer situations, people would come and go and also had different agendas.
I don't think Simon only reimbursed you because he had to, I think it's more likely that he was not even aware of the details of your transaction, or perhaps was too overwhelmed at the time to deal with it satisfactorily.
Again, to hold Simon to the same standards as a professional therapist or counselor is not being fair--he has been pretty out front about not being a professional and about the administrative problems he has had, which have been numerous.

I think he genuinely thought there were going to be people that he could help because he is familiar with things like mind control, problems with unfriendly entities and spirits, etc. that many professionals have no clue about.
He has had to deal with that kind of problem himself since he was a child, and probably isn't done with it yet himself.
Granted, he has been naive and is obviously unacquainted/or unpracticed with the protocols that professionals and more experienced people learn about along the way.
He rushed in where wise men would probably not have ventured at all.
But I think he is learning his lesson big time now and hopefully will stop attempting to do more than he can actually handle.
His strengths are in his role as whistleblower and hopefully he will continue to get supported in that role, because I think we need as many whistleblowers with inside information as we can get, even if they aren't always right.
They aren't infallible, they are just humans who have taken on a very heavy mission, subject to lots of attacks and subterfuge and other sticky problems.
I think we need to cut them some slack when they are obviously trying very hard to do what they can, which I think is the case with Simon.
Not to say that they don't need to hear criticism, because I think they do, but it should take into consideration all the factors that are in play in each individual case.
Hopefully we will all learn some valuable lessons from this process, and will be better equipped to deal with such problems as they come up in the future, as they surely will...



A couple of years ago I made an appointment for a reading with Simon. As you may know you have to pay him BEFORE you receive the reading and that is very unusual. Since we are in different countries the time difference made it difficult and I had to set my alarm and be up at 4 am. You guessed it, he never called. When I emailed asking what’s up I got a robo email saying sorry we are on vacation for a week. I left a message that I was flabbergasted he did this to me. He never called or mailed. Two weeks later I left a message that I paid for something I never received and that was not ok and if he didn’t arrange to reschedule I would contact Pay Pal. That seemed to get his attention. He emailed saying his computer had problems and he would reschedule. In the email to him I explained I was a therapist and how important it was to maintain ethical practices and if you don’t people will lose trust in you. I even gave him some suggestions about scheduling, phones and computers I thought might help, I just wanted to help him. Another two weeks went by and I hear noting from him about rescheduling. I contacted Pay Pal and put in a complaint. He responded to Pay Pal that he tried to reschedule but “I” didn’t cooperate. So not only does he have no ethical concerns about keeping appointments he lied about me. He did reimburse the money because he had to or there would have been repercussions from pay pal and that would end is business.


Anyone who provides services to another has ethical obligations and I don't care if they are moving a lawn or operating on a heart. He has the same ethical obligation to follow through because he said he would, period. As to his learning disability, I have one as well and nobody "cut me any slack" while getting a Ph.D. or being on time for my clients. It didn't stop thousands of others from accomplishing things.

I don't think he would have reimbursed me because I fell off his radar screen. Again it is part of doing business that one keeps track of what they are doing. So yes he had to because I brought it to his attention. I'm not trying to bash peoples heroes, I was trying to provide factual information about my experience so other people can make decisions. I contacted him because I feel he has skills/abilities that help others. I have not come to the conclusion that he is doing what he is doing out of malice. However I feel ethics is something a spiritually evolved person just has, they don't have to work at it. If you hurt someone while trying to help someone you have an obligation to stop and figure out how you can change that. It takes courage to write a post like the ones people have written explaining their negative experiences. He cant run his business well but he has obvious power and I'm sure we all weighted the consequences of speaking up. I did so because I feel I have an ethical obligation to tell others.

[onawah]

People have been encouraged and thanked for writing about negative experiences they've had on this and other threads about Simon, and I hope that everyone will feel free to continue doing so.
Hopefully people who have had positive experiences will also share so there will be a realistic perspective.
It's not all good, but it's not all bad, either.
Perhaps the best thing would be if Simon would read this and not be too proud to take it as constructive criticism and act accordingly.
Perhaps other whistleblowers who have lost their way (and there are a few) would have chosen a better path if there had been more fair criticism, less bashing and less hero worship as well, though it seems to be a path that is fraught with more dangers than I expect most of us can imagine.
As in everything, it's all about balance.

[giovonni]

Apologies. I didn't realize I was copying from a member's only thread. I've sent Bluegreen a PM asking for permission, so hopefully I will be able to copy that again and still be in order! :blushing:


This is a post Bluegreen made from the other, concurrent thread on Simon which I think bears repeating here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1420-Simon-Parkes-about-Mantis-Aliens-Reptiles-and-other-aliens.&p=1076623&viewfull=1#post1076623
[Mod-edit: I removed the quoted material since it belongs to a "Members' Only" thread, Hervé]
Bluegreen gave me permission [verified, Hervé] to copy that message, so here it is again:
Default Re: Simon Parkes about Mantis Aliens, Reptiles and other aliens.
Not qualified to stick my nose in here but I'm going to anyway
I am seeing a pattern:
- "Whistleblower" comes forth with "new information"
- Avalonians fall all over themselves
- Said "whistleblower" is revealed to have holes in said "new information" or "personal character"
- Avalonians dismiss said individual, sometimes with sarcastic remarks et al etc
Examples:
Charles
Corey
Ruiner
Wilcock
Greer
Now Parkes
I am glad to have had the opportunity to read about all of these individual's "stories"
I've gotten something that I consider to be "worthwhile" from each
I want all the information I can get
I can "discern" later
What "resonates" to me is I am getting a more accurate picture of the world around me than the MSM gives me
From all of them
Recently we are getting an onslaught of believable and documented information about electronic mind control techniques available to the GC's
Which a few forum members have been telling us for years
So what I agree with is, let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater
And please, let's not "trash" anybody

Bears repeating ... :bump:

[giovonni]

Noted: Bottom line message, Mr Parkes needs to get out of the counseling business ...

Though I am not going to dismiss his public voice as being all rubbish.

[AutumnW]

Noted: Bottom line message, Mr Parkes need to get out of the counseling business ...

Though I am not going dismiss his public voice as being all rubbish.

Why not? Is there any reason to believe any of his claims? He's proven he is dishonest and not above theft, apparently. In the interest of 'balance,' you would believe 'some' of his claims? I'm really curious and interested to know why. I don't get why people who have achieved some degree of esteem and respect, when unmasked, aren't dropped like hot rocks. Like Teal Swann, he is very likely just another shyster with potential to do significant harm.

[giovonni]

Noted: Bottom line message, Mr Parkes needs to get out of the counseling business ...

Though I am not going to dismiss his public voice as being all rubbish.

Why not? Is there any reason to believe any of his claims? He's proven he is dishonest and not above theft, apparently. In the interest of 'balance,' you would believe 'some' of his claims? I'm really curious and interested to know why. I don't get why people who have achieved some degree of esteem and respect, when unmasked, aren't dropped like hot rocks. Like Teal Swann, he is very likely just another shyster with potential to do significant harm.

If anybody here feels they have been cheated (or fraudulently handeled) by either Teal Swan or Simon Parkes, then they need to take legal action for themselves ... I personally don't believe it's good practice for any forum members to be slandering any individuals here ... And regarding Simon Parkes, I never said I believe everything he says ...
Once again, 'I am not going to dismiss his public voice as being all rubbish' ... either.

[Omni]

I tried to get an appointment with Simon just to see if he could help with my targeting somehow. I was skeptical he could help but tried it anyway. He put off the appointments for months and eventually made a threatening remark at me and removed me from skype. It was because I had posted on avalon I didn't buy his whole shpeil of evil extraterrestrials being here to "piggyback on our ascension". Such a ridiculous premise to me.

Anyway, I could sense a bit of dark energies from him. It's like when he gets angry he wants whoever he gets angry with to be punished... He threatened me about posting my opposition to his stories. Basically I believe Simon is an unwitting(or maybe even witting) disinformant. When he says things like black people are harder to mind control for ETs I can safely say the areas I don't know as much in he's probably serving whoppers there too...

There are extensive disinformation programs aimed at the project avalon demographic. I think Simon is part of such if i had to take an educated guess...

[giovonni]

There are extensive disinformation programs aimed at the project avalon demographic.

Yes ...

And quite seriously, perhaps it should be post added to the forum guidelines as a general disclaimer.

[ulli]

Simon is quite dyslexic and has had to rely on others to handle many aspects of his email correspondence, Skyping, finances, etc.

His strengths are in his role as whistleblower and hopefully he will continue to get supported in that role, because I think we need as many whistleblowers with inside information as we can get, even if they aren't always right.
I think we need to cut them some slack when they are obviously trying very hard to do what they can, which I think is the case with Simon.
Not to say that they don't need to hear criticism, because I think they do,

End quote - Dyclexic it sefl , is an indication of ' other dimensional abilities ', I put this to any doubters, " Do you really believe that Simon would tread this very dangerous path. as part of an Alien agenda, when, if having entered polytics, .. he could have made millions ?

My husband is a dyslexic GP, and has other qualities, like photographic memory, and possibly gets interdimensional help with his diagnosis.
But he does make every possible effort to remain worthy of the trust of his patients. More so than just common courtesy.
If it is not upsetting to Simon to have so many upset clients then he is most likely under exterrnal control, because it would make no sense that he would sabotage his work voluntarily.

[onawah]

But apparently it IS upsetting to Simon to have many upset clients.
Though he may also be dealing with external interference and/or influence if not control, but that is a problem which all whistleblowers have, though most likely not physicians.


If it is not upsetting to Simon to have so many upset clients then he is most likely under exterrnal control, because it would make no sense that he would sabotage his work voluntarily.

[thepainterdoug]

There is such a thing as "things getting out of hand", life is moving too fast, too many things people all vying for some sort of footprint and so on. Just last week I for the first time I can remember , left a women friend waiting at a restaurant by herself. I was home and just completely forgot i had made plans with her. I was so shocked I did this, not a memory of it at all and then I had to realize I was trying to juggle too much at once, not writing things down and so on. Im not defending Simon, but I would love to know his side of the story . I also applaud Alberto and Daniella for sharing this.

[AutumnW]

Excellent! Let Simon Parkes answer some of these allegations on the forum here. It might be a bit hard to do with his pants on fire, but he can try!

Several years ago I was almost conned out of not just my life savings but life as I had known it. The individual came across as gentle, kind and extremely understanding. Very soft spoken.

He used spirituality as a way to pull me in and illicit trust. I saw through the scam before it was too late. Thankfully.

This is the reason I have zero patience with anyone who uses the appearance of being high minded and helpful to play on the best qualities of their victims.

[Bill Ryan]

:focus: ... please.

The topic of this thread, started by Alberto e Daniela (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88999-Our-experience-with-Simon-Parkes&p=1047999&viewfull=1#post1047999), is how Simon Parkes handles himself in counseling sessions, and how he manages the scheduling and booking of those sessions, with paid clients. That's all.

It potentially affects quite a lot of people who may be at their most vulnerable.

The thread contains specific experiences, that are problematic and concerning, reported by known, real, people, who are forum members. This isn't casual, malevolent, irresponsible innuendo or rumor.

I've been sent a recording of one session, and it's a horror story. Any certified counselor would be banned for life — with no risk of exaggeration — if a formal complaint was made to the certificating authority. In this case, nothing can be done, as Simon isn't qualified or certified.

Of course, I can't and won't share that publicly or privately. It's a little silly, if I may gently say, to ask for that to be posted as 'evidence'. It's for those concerned, and only for those concerned, to share those recordings if they wish or choose. But the session recordings all exist.

This isn't untrue, invented, any kind of a 'smear' or 'attack', or a false malevolent rumor. It is what it is, nothing more or less, and it's merely pretty awful stuff that breaches any counselor's code one might ever conceive of.

[onawah]

Thank you Bill.
That was the missing piece. I didn't know that there were recordings (just complaints but no proof).
That is definitely a game changer, then.

:focus: ... please.

The topic of this thread, started by Alberto e Daniela (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88999-Our-experience-with-Simon-Parkes&p=1047999&viewfull=1#post1047999), is how Simon Parkes handles himself in counseling sessions, and how he manages the scheduling and booking of those sessions, with paid clients. That's all.

It potentially affects quite a lot of people who may be at their most vulnerable.

The thread contains specific experiences, that are problematic and concerning, reported by known, real, people, who are forum members. This isn't casual, malevolent, irresponsible innuendo or rumor.

I've been sent a recording of one session, and it's a horror story. Any certified counselor would be banned for life — with no risk of exaggeration — if a formal complaint was made to the certificating authority. In this case, nothing can be done, as Simon isn't qualified or certified.

Of course, I can't and won't share that publicly or privately. It's a little silly, if I may gently say, to ask for that to be posted as 'evidence'. It's for those concerned, and only for those concerned, to share those recordings if they wish or choose. But the session recordings all exist.

This isn't untrue, invented, any kind of a 'smear' or 'attack', or a false malevolent rumor. It is what it is, nothing more or less, and it's merely pretty awful stuff that breaches any counselor's code one might ever conceive of.

[greybeard]

I agree whole heartedly with Bill and his post should really be the end of the matter as regards the subject of this thread.
No disrespect to those who are supportive of Simon's information in other areas.

Chris

[onawah]

I certainly can agree to that!
(And am very happy to take Bill's word for it.)
It will cast Simon's information as a whistleblower into a different light, as well.

[AutumnW]

Onawah, I get the very strong impression that you and 99% of the individuals on this forum are very kind, intelligent and genuinely seeking the truth. This is SUCH a good thing.

One of the very few drawbacks, imho, is a person's best qualities can be twisted and used to further the interests of conmen. Many of these types have profound personality disorders.

They are proficient liars and even though logic should dictate that they follow through with appointments , for example, in their own self interest -- that's using OUR logic, not theirs.

A spiritual conman understands very well that the paradigms he/she establishes will help them wriggle out of ever being pinned down.

Why be responsible diligent and forthright when you can lean on your 'learning disabilities, ADD or whatever? If that doesn't work there is always the default of 'mind control by mantids,' explanation.

A really good con doesn't have to defend themselves because others will do it for them. Simon has cased the joint and broken in. But the joint isn't a place, it is the current predilection for certain beliefs and attitudes.

It's Simon who has broken into the minds of many (and to use his phraseology) HE is the one piggy backing on the ideas of the 'ascension minded.'

The signature response of a conman (sociopathic narcissistic type) is their reaction to those who hold them to account and don't let them slip away.

You will generally see this insane shift from soft spoken gentle to a jaw-dropping rage. The threats insults etc...are part of the package.

In the interest of full disclosure I think that there could be some mental manipulation from archon et races going on too. I don't disagree with that. I am just very wary of how that whole topic is handled.

[ulli]

Well stated, AutumnW
Just for emphasis:

"The signature response of a conman (sociopathic narcissistic type) is their reaction to those who hold them to account and don't let them slip away."

[AutumnW]

Thanks Ulli--Personality disorders are my area of unique interest. I have studied the conman personality upside down and sideways. And there is always room for doubt until some major give away occurs.

I was most interested in the revelations that he raged and resorted to threats, when he was pinned down. That satisfied all the criteria for sociopathy, psychopathy, or malignant narcissism. It is a VERY harrowing experience to be treated not just badly but cruelly and callously by someone you have placed great trust in. Betrayal trauma is just about the worst thing someone can go through. It's bad enough when it's a friend .... But someone playing a convincing spiritual advisor? Yikes!

[Agape]

As Araucaria suggested earlier .... when the pile of misunderstanding grows too tall with respect to your personal testimony it is sometimes better to call it a quit .
I don't recall saying exactly that. However I do recall posting this just today: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=1077852&viewfull=1#post1077852

Well .. generally speaking and as I tried to point out earlier in the thread , more or less unsuccessfully ,
you can't really 'take the ET out of the equation' .

I was trying to point to that direction but this says very little to anyone who aren't an ET, a life-long 'contactee' or someone personally involved with the subject .

For most of others it shall remain more important : whether Simon came on time, does he have his bills payed and by whom,
does he counsel people in the right or wrong way , how many cats does he have and so forth .

On the very next level it's how many interviews did each person do, is the quality adequate , did he make good and fitting predictions ,
who are his friends and enemies .

All the human 'stuff' . I'm no expert on judging 'human stuff' .

But , I do feel obliged to leave it to people now to discuss it because they would not get me on the 'ET stuff' anyway.

''Simon said''.

[AutumnW]

Agape, The "devil made me (him) do it" defense is fraught with difficulty. It leaves no room for self determination, adherence to moral standards. It can be used as an excuse for deplorable behavior -- and that can manifest in the mundane arena, but is primarily taking place within the social and spiritual sphere.

This isn't a manner of i's not being carefully dotted and t's crossed. It is not a 'mistake'. Those you make on a math quiz. These are moral failings. There is betrayal, mean spirit, etc...

[Agape]

Agape, The "devil made me (him) do it" defense is fraught with difficulty. It leaves no room for self determination, adherence to moral standards. It can be used as an excuse for deplorable behavior -- and that can manifest in the mundane arena, but is primarily taking place within the social and spiritual sphere.

This isn't a manner of i's not being carefully dotted and t's crossed. It is not a 'mistake'. Those you make on a math quiz. These are moral failings. There is betrayal, mean spirit, etc...


ETs are not 'devil' . I suppose that anything 'too difficult' on human minds can turn you to 'a devil' for a moment , maths for example .

Maths is good example really . There were many brilliant mathematicians who have slipped 'over the edge' , in their minds , early or late in their life and turned 'a bit mad' or seriously ill.

Dealing with the ET infusion and exposure for many years now, I do find some similarities here .

It's a case of solving a supra-human puzzle that is either almost endless or unsortable from human point of view .

Logically , tell me of one person who would offer to answer any question about human body successfully unless they're MD . Medicine is another good example . You have to study many years and then all life to get all the data together and never come to the end anyway.
But any 'shaman' can offer to diagnose you from 'en face' and treat you in an hour.

Yes I've read on previous page , you said 'let Simon come here and discuss' . I doubt he will do that or that it would be too meaningful , I may be wrong .

There was a decent meaning in some things I was trying to convey here , to do with the ET paradigm and people seeking to find themselves through such information,

I've even explained somewhere why I stopped teaching after my ET encounters ..

that I believe the problematics should be solved hand-in-hand with scientific perspectives rather than confounding peoples 'spirituality' ,

for those who do not know me totally , I was also with the Ammach & Bases project at the time when Simon came in.
He's in the UK so he had chance to get much personal work done.

But we're not all that different at all. At least so it seemed ...


P.S.: Ah. The reason of me saying about don't take ETs out of equation were people stressing that perhaps he has personal difficulties he can't handle

BUT , his testimony is still quite reliable . Which parts ( rhetorical question , of course ).
I've heard that one many times around this 'arena' , concerning some whistleblowers but it really does not 'resonate' with my human life experience at all.

IT does happen under exceptional circumstances - people speaking extraordinary truth but being 'out of character' otherwise .

In most cases and when someone are personally unreliable , their personal testimony to any field can't be taken 'for granted' .

[AutumnW]

You know, Agape. It is really pretty simple. Some people lie and make money doing so. No mental gymnastics required.

[onawah]

So where should we draw the line when it comes to sociopathic or psychopathic behavior from an alleged ET currently in a human body?
I think some people are going to feel like victims no matter how well they are treated, and that should be a factor considered.
But if someone who is portraying themselves as a wise and compassionate person persistently rages and heaps abuse on those who come to them for help, they need to be outed, no matter who they are or what their lineage.
And preferably seek help, as well, though in the case of sociopaths and psychopaths, I don't think we really know how to help, but they can at least, hopefully, be prevented from harming others.

[AutumnW]

Agape, Can you start a thread and discuss what happened to you, as far as alien intervention ET contact goes? I am very interested. Maybe you could link to something you have written already? I don't want you to feel shut down because we aren't in agreement about Simon.

[giovonni]

Excellent! Let Simon Parkes answer some of these allegations on the forum here. It might be a bit hard to do with his pants on fire, but he can try!

Several years ago I was almost conned out of not just my life savings but life as I had known it. The individual came across as gentle, kind and extremely understanding. Very soft spoken.

He used spirituality as a way to pull me in and illicit trust. I saw through the scam before it was too late. Thankfully.

This is the reason I have zero patience with anyone who uses the appearance of being high minded and helpful to play on the best qualities of their victims.

Please note you have my full support/love and appreciation in these regards ...

And tt is very obvious by your previous posts - You have been traumatized to some extent ...

Perhaps you might explain and expand more on your above personal experience ...

Maybe even reveal who victimized you - Was this person a professionally known individual ...

And perhaps should let others here be made aware of this person?

Sending blessing love your way !

PS ~ maybe start a separate thread ?

[ulli]

So where should we draw the line when it comes to sociopathic or psychopathic behavior from an alleged ET currently in a human body?
I think some people are going to feel like victims no matter how well they are treated, and that should be a factor considered.
But if someone who is portraying themselves as a wise and compassionate person persistently rages and heaps abuse on those who come to them for help, they need to be outed, no matter who they are or what their lineage.
And preferably seek help, as well, though in the case of sociopaths and psychopaths, I don't think we really know how to help, but they can at least, hopefully, be prevented from harming others.

I don't believe that there is a fixed line to be drawn.
It shifts from moment to moment, depending on the dynamics of the individuals involved.
Nor do I think one can "out" them. That leaves only one thing- warn the vulnerable of the deception.
Which is what Bill did, after having received multiple complaints.

And yet, some people will still risk losing their money, just because there is an offchance of learning some strange new reality about themselves, as if that was going to solve all their problems.
One would have to be specific and zoom in on the details of each situation, and each case, which also is not always possible.
So it's the sheer volume of complaints, as well as the reliability factor of those who tell their story.

[onawah]

There are too many grey areas when it comes to non-professional counselors, psychic readers, etc.
There is no professional standard they must adhere to to retain their licenses, as with professionals. (Not that there aren't plenty of abuses by professionals too, notwithstanding.)
And it's nearly impossible to evaluate the value or accuracy of their feedback to clients.
So the only control is via word of mouth.
Unless there is hard data such as recordings of sessions where abuse is meted out, and if there were possible mitigating circumstances, more than one would be highly desirable.
In the case of whistleblowers there are always going to be controlled attackers and simple loose cannons attackers who will go to inordinate lengths to discredit their targets.
And that is why I suggest that hard data is preferable to word of mouth, especially if there is more than one such proof.



So where should we draw the line when it comes to sociopathic or psychopathic behavior from an alleged ET currently in a human body?
I think some people are going to feel like victims no matter how well they are treated, and that should be a factor considered.
But if someone who is portraying themselves as a wise and compassionate person persistently rages and heaps abuse on those who come to them for help, they need to be outed, no matter who they are or what their lineage.
And preferably seek help, as well, though in the case of sociopaths and psychopaths, I don't think we really know how to help, but they can at least, hopefully, be prevented from harming others.

I don't believe that there is a fixed line to be drawn.
It shifts from moment to moment, depending on the dynamics of the individuals involved.
Nor do I think one can "out" them. That leaves only one thing- warn the vulnerable of the deception.
Which is what Bill did, after having received multiple complaints.

And yet, some people will still risk losing their money, just because there is an offchance of learning some strange new reality about themselves, as if that was going to solve all their problems.
One would have to be specific and zoom in on the details of each situation, and each case, which also is not always possible.
So it's the sheer volume of complaints, as well as the reliability factor of those who tell their story.

[Sean]

Working in Hollywood as I do, I come across various levels of sociopaths daily. Generally, what I've been unfortunate enough to experience is, if you're perceptive enough to see through them..you become their next target, their ONLY target,until you are destroyed. I've been relentlessly slandered over the last few years because I had a falling out with my former circle(circles are how things get done in this town), on top of being courageous(dumb?) enough to criticize Israel publicly. It's why you see the same faces working with the same directors again and again..once you're in a good circle..you'll work.

Conversely, if a strong circle goes against you..you're gonna have a bad time..especially if you're not part of the "white male" club.

I say all that to say, how Simon responds to all this stuff will tell us a lot about who we're dealing with. I say he's a sociopath to the core. I haven't tried to "remote view" him like I said I would..2 jobs/career etc, I haven't gotten a chance to take farsight institute's course yet. But I will.

It almost doesn't matter, though. these stories about him don't strike me as made up or exaggerated. dude has got some issues..or he's in dire need of an assistant. I can't wait to see his response.

[giovonni]

Working in Hollywood as I do, I come across various levels of sociopaths daily. Generally, what I've been unfortunate enough to experience is, if you're perceptive enough to see through them..you become their next target, their ONLY target,until you are destroyed. I've been relentlessly slandered over the last few years because I had a falling out with my former circle(circles are how things get done in this town), on top of being courageous(dumb?) enough to criticize Israel publicly. It's why you see the same faces working with the same directors again and again..once you're in a good circle..you'll work.

Conversely, if a strong circle goes against you..you're gonna have a bad time..especially if you're not part of the "white male" club.

I say all that to say, how Simon responds to all this stuff will tell us a lot about who we're dealing with. I say he's a sociopath to the core. I haven't tried to "remote view" him like I said I would..2 jobs/career etc, I haven't gotten a chance to take farsight institute's course yet. But I will.

It almost doesn't matter, though. these stories about him don't strike me as made up or exaggerated. dude has got some issues..or he's in dire need of an assistant. I can't wait to see his response.

Yes, living in LA/Hollywood would kinda make you most credible in signalling out the "me type people" ... giggle/smile

I sense Simon has gotten caught up in self absorption via all the alternative media community attention. And it is obvious he hasn't handled his soliciting clients in general very well ... Eitherway - he really does need a professional assistant - Or really should rethink this personal counseling venture services?

It would be good to hear from Simon, though I believe he's probably like most of people, and doesn't take public scrutiny very well ... :(

[greybeard]

It would seem to be ingrained in the Human Psyche to fear something out there is going to get me---watch out be careful
A lot of the children's nursery rhymes propagate or feed this.
It might be that Simon unwittingly feeds that need.

In duality because there seems to be something to fear --real or imaginary--there must also be the one that saves --the Saviour figure--the one that knows.

Therapy is mainly about reassuring the client there is nothing to fear.

Seems Simon went in the opposite direction.

Chris

[Agape]

It would seem to be ingrained in the Human Psyche to fear something out there is going to get me---watch out be careful
A lot of the children's nursery rhymes propagate or feed this.
It might be that Simon unwittingly feeds that need.

In duality because there seems to be something to fear --real or imaginary--there must also be the one that saves --the Saviour figure--the one that knows.

Therapy is mainly about reassuring the client there is nothing to fear.

I think so . It's also how many of the new sects especially those involving different ET types , agendas and conspiracy theory end up in the same loop - fear and saviour paradigm.
It seems to support 'social dynamics' , discernment between 'true and fake values' ,
including some proto-spiritual movements people want to hear there are 'good guys' and 'bad guys' and we can fight each other.

Therapy ..from my experience .. is about something else entirely , being there for the client .
It should focus on and help them to solve their own problems, not use them as a tool of your 'agenda'.
I can also imagine there are many people signing to such 'counselling' out of curiosity or wanting to be 'accepted' to the 'inside circle' because it's either fashionable or it offers some kind of new identity option .
Seeing this around the web at all times and how this n that psychic tells people where are they from and it 'totally fits' and 'confirms your idea' ( or not ).
Beware psychics .. some of your clients can be cunning tricksters too and they'll get you as soon as the session ends :bigsmile:
( saw cases like that , skeptics and debunkers sign up for reading with naive , outspaced psychic newbie , he/she tells them they're from Orion and the guys then go and have good laugh )


If you are from 'somewhere else' , it's your secret . Your knowledge alone and few ever come to know about it , firsthands.
This would need whole new thread/topic of course but even here , I fear it may be too sensitive to discuss .

[onawah]

I am happy to take your word for it, Bill, and would not ask anyone to share their recordings online.
I also very much appreciate your feedback on these issues and your willingness to share it publicly.
For the sake of clarity, it would be even more helpful if you are able to witness more than one person's recording so that we will know for sure that there weren't mitigating circumstances in the one case that you cited ( which one friend of Simon's has claimed to me privately).
I don't say this because I am convinced that Simon is innocent of wrong doing, but because I think it's possible he may have been targeted and his vulnerabilities exploited as often happens to whistleblowers, and I want Avalon to continue to treat whistleblowers as the special cases that they are, particularly when they are also Contactees, which means they are under added pressure.
And there have been cases in the past where even Avalon members have in time proven themselves to have hidden agendas or been untruthful, or simply lacking in good judgement, etc., though I understand your desire to be protective of us.
You have shown yourself in the past willing to bend over backwards to give whistleblowers enough rope to either hang themselves or prove themselves, and I hope you will continue to do so, as the alternative community really needs the information they provide even if we are tasked with the chore of separating the misinfo and disinfo from the truth.
If there is more that you know that you cannot share which has convinced you that Simon is following the path of whistleblowers who have discredited themselves too much to be of value to the alternative community any longer, then I will respect that.
And I respect your opinion that he needs to get out of the counseling business, if that is the case, but for the sake of clarity, can you tell us please where that leaves him in your standing as a whistleblower?
Thanks Bill.
:hug:




Of course, I can't and won't share that publicly or privately. It's a little silly, if I may gently say, to ask for that to be posted as 'evidence'. It's for those concerned, and only for those concerned, to share those recordings if they wish or choose. But the session recordings all exist.

[AutumnW]

Excellent! Let Simon Parkes answer some of these allegations on the forum here. It might be a bit hard to do with his pants on fire, but he can try!

Several years ago I was almost conned out of not just my life savings but life as I had known it. The individual came across as gentle, kind and extremely understanding. Very soft spoken.

He used spirituality as a way to pull me in and illicit trust. I saw through the scam before it was too late. Thankfully.

This is the reason I have zero patience with anyone who uses the appearance of being high minded and helpful to play on the best qualities of their victims.



Please note you have my full support/love and appreciation in these regards ...

And tt is very obvious by your previous posts - You have been traumatized to some extent ...

Perhaps you might explain and expand more on your above personal experience ...

Maybe even reveal who victimized you - Was this person a professionally known individual ...

And perhaps should let others here be made aware of this person?

Sending blessing love your way !

PS ~ maybe start a separate thread ?

Thanks for your concern, Giovanni. Because of this experience I'm sensitized to unmitigated bull**it, but try to give self styled 'experts' the benefit of the doubt anyway. I have an equal sensitivity for the other end of the spectrum -- creating unnecessary witch hunts against people who might be merely character flawed but well intentioned.

Simon Parkes peaked my interest as he seemed to be leveraging attention from theories that encouraged people to be intensely afraid.

I also noted that he would combine really terrifying information with over the top flattery. As in-- "you are a very very important universal psychic force. Therefore, different agencies have always had this intense interest in you. As a result, you have been tinkered with mentally, for as long as you can remember! You are so infested and compromised that I don't know if even I can do anything about it. It's kind of creeping ME out!"

I can't remember exactly how this particular poster's experience played out, but you can bet that he tells most of those who contact him for counselling, the same thing. Flattery, fear, followed by intense gratitude towards the guru for being willing to go where other 'adepts' fear to tread. So, creating dependency bonds. Ungood.

If somebody is actually 'infested' the first thing a counsellor should do is try to bring down fear as much as possible.

Lots of red flags there.

Same with the message of not going towards the light. Like after all the truly horrendous trials and tribulations most people go through in this lifetime, they are given an absurdly deceptive mental quiz, that would nullify all of their spiritual growth, by nailing them on a demerit? You went towards the light! Woops. Loud buzzer sounds. You're OUT! This just strikes me as being all wrong on an intuitive level.

Will PM you about my conman experience. I don't want to start a thread about it.

[syrwong]

It is always better to forget and forgive the whistleblowers for what they have done in the past or their disagreeable personality, because it is what they offer to inform that is important. As Kerry, who has met many whistleblowers, in an interview said "they are not angels".

I notice that Simon made a probably correct prediction a few months ago, when he said in June and July there will start turmoils. This year has been relatively quiet until June when there are many terrorist attacks and that Brexit is already a big event that may trigger great financial calamities in July, (another post predicts a Greek default.) I think he is also giving believable warnings to what will happen in these two years, similar to the beliefs of Bill and many others.

[AutumnW]

Syrwong,

Whistleblowers are defined by their character. They value truth and fair dealing over and above anything else. If someone is a notorious creep, like Andy Warhol, for example, it's perfectly fair to say, they are a creep but let's just focus on what they do, their art.

To evaluate a whistleblower in the same way, isn't wise. A pervasive pattern of abusing clients, runs completely counter to the spirit that drives the acts of whistle blowing.

Because Mr. Parkes, claims to share some common beliefs with Bill Ryan, tells you he is somehow honest? It tells me he is using mirroring techniques to illicit trust. That he is using the same technique to mirror, ramp up and manipulate ideas on the forum and in alternative esoteric culture that engender a strong fear response, tells me he is BOGUS.

[onawah]

Becky, who is also an Avalon member since 2013 and a friend of Simon's who handles his bookings, etc. says that he has hundreds of clients who have been helped. If the complaints are the vast minority, what does that say?
Flash was a member of Avalon for a long time and she reported that her daughter was greatly helped by Simon repeatedly.
I think he is not an unfeeling person, and psychopaths are characterized by a lack of feeling.
He has demonstrated clear evidence of feeling depressed, sad, overwhelmed, grateful, etc. on numerous occasions.
I'm not convinced that he's not just got the same human foibles that most of us do and when under lots of pressure, like most of us, he fails and makes mistakes.
What makes a whistleblower a whistleblower?
I wouldn't say that the only characteristic is a sterling character.
Lots of whistleblowers have demonstrated lots of failings.
That doesn't mean they haven't blown the whistle on the establishment, and they deserve some respect and gratitude for that.

[Chester]

Noted: Bottom line message, Mr Parkes needs to get out of the counseling business ...

Though I am not going to dismiss his public voice as being all rubbish.

Why not? Is there any reason to believe any of his claims? He's proven he is dishonest and not above theft, apparently. In the interest of 'balance,' you would believe 'some' of his claims? I'm really curious and interested to know why. I don't get why people who have achieved some degree of esteem and respect, when unmasked, aren't dropped like hot rocks. Like Teal Swann, he is very likely just another shyster with potential to do significant harm.

If anybody here feels they have been cheated (or fraudulently handeled) by either Teal Swan or Simon Parkes, then they need to take legal action for themselves ... I personally don't believe it's good practice for any forum members to be slandering any individuals here ... And regarding Simon Parkes, I never said I believe everything he says ...
Once again, 'I am not going to dismiss his public voice as being all rubbish' ... either.

I have been directly involved in this "community" now for 4 years.

It is my conclusion that anyone... anyone who speaks in any way about unprovable, other worldly experiences must hold the highest of standards with regards to:

complete, all but perfect honesty

accuracy of the details discussed

consistency in their story or clarity as to what they are not certain about and to what degrees of certainty, uncertainty they have regarding every aspect of their story

any interpretations of their experiences be clearly presented as their own, subjective interpretations and do not necessarily imply realities that span beyond their own, personally experienced reality

that any paradigms, either directly presented or indirectly implied are never imposed on others at all in any way

that all interpretations, conclusions and paradigms these experiences suggest are never presented in any way as to apply to groups of others or all others


Conclusions -

Unprovable, other worldly experiences do happen to individuals and on some occasions to groups of individuals.

Yet, in almost all cases I have observed over these last four years there is a great deal of paradigm imposition where the listening (reading) individual's exploration of their own wonderment is robbed.

Of course, just about everything stated above has little chance of happening across the vast community that has now evolved to quite a mature state where there is the same dynamic we see with a small controlling elite (the NWO Globalists) and the rest of humanity, all life on Earth, all life in the immediate area of space including the planets... and that is a small, highly exposed elite that plays the "if you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours too" game, where folks can become members of the "mutual verification club" if they play that one well enough, where you get "researchers" like Wilcrook who then take advantage of clearly compromised individuals (in some cases quite willingly) like Goode, etc. who need each other to achieve success in applying "The Formula."

The Formula is -

Step One - Scare the hell out of the vulnerable

Step Two - Convince them "you" have access to vital information the vulnerable cannot possibly get on their own

Step Three - Addict them to your "intel drip feed" (credit to Daozen for the excellent term)

Step Four - Harvest in any form desired and sought - monetarily, energetically, sexually, attention seeking, etc.

Step Five - Repeat until the victim is drained and/or wises up

Continuously troll the internet via any means possible for new vulnerables. Trade vulnerables with others. Never, ever reveal you are a fraud despite how obvious it is... trust me, there are far more vulnerables than ones who have wised up. You'll also have "the sensitive" that will always excuse every single unacceptable behavior in any form you ever produce and they will relentlessly defend you in massively large, ungodly numerous posts until all the rest of us simply get tired and find better things to do.

[giovonni]

Excellent! Let Simon Parkes answer some of these allegations on the forum here. It might be a bit hard to do with his pants on fire, but he can try!

Several years ago I was almost conned out of not just my life savings but life as I had known it. The individual came across as gentle, kind and extremely understanding. Very soft spoken.

He used spirituality as a way to pull me in and illicit trust. I saw through the scam before it was too late. Thankfully.

This is the reason I have zero patience with anyone who uses the appearance of being high minded and helpful to play on the best qualities of their victims.



Please note you have my full support/love and appreciation in these regards ...

And tt is very obvious by your previous posts - You have been traumatized to some extent ...

Perhaps you might explain and expand more on your above personal experience ...

Maybe even reveal who victimized you - Was this person a professionally known individual ...

And perhaps should let others here be made aware of this person?

Sending blessing love your way !

PS ~ maybe start a separate thread ?

Thanks for your concern, Giovanni. Because of this experience I'm sensitized to unmitigated bull**it, but try to give self styled 'experts' the benefit of the doubt anyway. I have an equal sensitivity for the other end of the spectrum -- creating unnecessary witch hunts against people who might be merely character flawed but well intentioned.

Simon Parkes peaked my interest as he seemed to be leveraging attention from theories that encouraged people to be intensely afraid.

I also noted that he would combine really terrifying information with over the top flattery. As in-- "you are a very very important universal psychic force. Therefore, different agencies have always had this intense interest in you. As a result, you have been tinkered with mentally, for as long as you can remember! You are so infested and compromised that I don't know if even I can do anything about it. It's kind of creeping ME out!"

I can't remember exactly how this particular poster's experience played out, but you can bet that he tells most of those who contact him for counselling, the same thing. Flattery, fear, followed by intense gratitude towards the guru for being willing to go where other 'adepts' fear to tread. So, creating dependency bonds. Ungood.

If somebody is actually 'infested' the first thing a counsellor should do is try to bring down fear as much as possible.

Lots of red flags there.

Same with the message of not going towards the light. Like after all the truly horrendous trials and tribulations most people go through in this lifetime, they are given an absurdly deceptive mental quiz, that would nullify all of their spiritual growth, by nailing them on a demerit? You went towards the light! Woops. Loud buzzer sounds. You're OUT! This just strikes me as being all wrong on an intuitive level.

Will PM you about my conman experience. I don't want to start a thread about it.

Thanks for the response,

Fully understand your desire to keep private, and please note no need to send me a PM response in regards.

Blesssings Gio

[Chester]

Simon is quite dyslexic and has had to rely on others to handle many aspects of his email correspondence, Skyping, finances, etc.

His strengths are in his role as whistleblower and hopefully he will continue to get supported in that role, because I think we need as many whistleblowers with inside information as we can get, even if they aren't always right.
I think we need to cut them some slack when they are obviously trying very hard to do what they can, which I think is the case with Simon.
Not to say that they don't need to hear criticism, because I think they do,

End quote - Dyclexic it sefl , is an indication of ' other dimensional abilities ', I put this to any doubters, " Do you really believe that Simon would tread this very dangerous path. as part of an Alien agenda, when, if having entered polytics, .. he could have made millions ?

My husband is a dyslexic GP, and has other qualities, like photographic memory, and possibly gets interdimensional help with his diagnosis.
But he does make every possible effort to remain worthy of the trust of his patients. More so than just common courtesy.
If it is not upsetting to Simon to have so many upset clients then he is most likely under exterrnal control, because it would make no sense that he would sabotage his work voluntarily.

Is it possible that, at least in his current lifetime, he has lost or never had true empathy? True feelings that each of us are no less important than himself? That each other's time is every bit as important as his own time?

Having lived so far 58 years, I recall when I was very young I saw myself as the center of the universe. I know that I did not grow out of this at an early age. In fact, in honest self reflection, I have still struggled with this issue. But I have recognized it and have made a sincere effort to not just admit when this social illness or whatever it might be has negatively affected others, but to get to the heart of the matter as to why I might have struggled (and still struggle) with this problem. It seems the steps are seeing the problem, seeing that the problem is harmful to others, that I do not wish to harm others and that I have a great desire to make the changes needed so I stop exhibiting the behavior.

So as to the possibility of third party influences, it seems a real conundrum in that at the level of this "shared reality experience" we must take personal responsibility for our words (written and spoken) and our actions... and yet, if unseen, undetected "third parties" are influencing or even puppeteering the actions of some of us, is there anything else that can be done besides just accepting this as a possibility and thus, since it is, we ignore or at least continuously accept the unacceptable behavior?

Or do we call it out? Do we also hold ourselves to the same high standards?

Definitely a tricky one.

[Chester]

:focus: ... please.

The topic of this thread, started by Alberto e Daniela (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88999-Our-experience-with-Simon-Parkes&p=1047999&viewfull=1#post1047999), is how Simon Parkes handles himself in counseling sessions, and how he manages the scheduling and booking of those sessions, with paid clients. That's all.

It potentially affects quite a lot of people who may be at their most vulnerable.

The thread contains specific experiences, that are problematic and concerning, reported by known, real, people, who are forum members. This isn't casual, malevolent, irresponsible innuendo or rumor.

I've been sent a recording of one session, and it's a horror story. Any certified counselor would be banned for life — with no risk of exaggeration — if a formal complaint was made to the certificating authority. In this case, nothing can be done, as Simon isn't qualified or certified.

Of course, I can't and won't share that publicly or privately. It's a little silly, if I may gently say, to ask for that to be posted as 'evidence'. It's for those concerned, and only for those concerned, to share those recordings if they wish or choose. But the session recordings all exist.

This isn't untrue, invented, any kind of a 'smear' or 'attack', or a false malevolent rumor. It is what it is, nothing more or less, and it's merely pretty awful stuff that breaches any counselor's code one might ever conceive of.

And think about the conundrum this community faces. On the one hand, we abhor external, authoritative "regulatory" oversights and yet the fact is that there is absolutely no mechanism in place that can be in any way protective of the vulnerable.

Another concern is that places like forums that attract the vulnerable seem to provide a "too hard to resist" environment from which the vulnerable can be harvested. I can understand how hard it must be to know when that line should be drawn. On the one hand, the individual is highly interesting to the forum members and readers and yet, at what point are the number of and significance of reports enough to draw a line? How does a forum do this fairly and consistently? Not an easy task at all.

[ThePythonicCow]

Perhaps we need to break this into two threads?

The thread is rather too entangled to split. So I am hoping that those who wish to discuss other aspects of Simon Parkes, that aren't on the topic described by Bill above (see here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88999-Our-experience-with-Simon-Parkes&p=1077877&viewfull=1#post1077877)) will find a way to continue those discussions on some other thread.

[Mod-edit: Feeling brave I moved 58 posts from this thread to this one: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our Experience with Simon Parkes" thread) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91607-Our-Experience-With-Simon-Parkes-as-a-contactee--split-from-Our-Experience-with-Simon-Parkes-thread-), Hervé]

[Bill Ryan]

Becky, who is also an Avalon member since 2013 and a friend of Simon's who handles his bookings, etc. says that he has hundreds of clients who have been helped. If the complaints are the vast minority, what does that say?

It says the same as would be the case for a doctor who only kills a few patients, an engineer who only has a few of his bridges collapse, or a pilot who only crashes a few times a year. :)

None of these things should happen at all.

And it's not much of an exaggeration to give those analogies. A vulnerable person who's been abused by a counselor can sometimes experience lasting, extensive damage.

I'd suggest to Becky, who's reading this thread and seems to be asking onawah to make certain points on her or Simon's behalf:

Don't make excuses. Make some apologies. There may be some realities that need facing up to. That would be a good start.

[greybeard]

As Bill points out there are repercussions in the real world for not maintaining expected standards.

I wonder if there is any value in the here and now to the info that Simon claims is true.
Does it improve life in any way --is it uplifting?

As a therapist I had to maintain standards and had to document everything I did and the clients response--success rate etc.
If I did not keep to the standards set out by the training body then I would loose my license.

Coincidently I was a driving instructor for twenty years and the same applied--an inspector would sit in the back seat while instruction was given.

As pointed out vulnerable people and not so vulnerable can be harmed long term by inappropriate counseling.

Chris

[Mike]

Becky, who is also an Avalon member since 2013 and a friend of Simon's who handles his bookings, etc. says that he has hundreds of clients who have been helped. If the complaints are the vast minority, what does that say?

It says the same as would be the case for a doctor who only kills a few patients, an engineer who only has a few of his bridges collapse, or a pilot who only crashes a few times a year. :)

None of these things should happen at all.

And it's not much of an exaggeration to give those analogies. A vulnerable person who's been abused by a counselor can sometimes experience lasting, extensive damage.

I'd suggest to Becky, who's reading this thread and seems to be asking onawah to make certain points on her or Simon's behalf:

Don't make excuses. Make some apologies. There may be some realities that need facing up to. That would be a good start.



I'm not so sure about that, Bill.

I'm jumping on this thread a little late, so please excuse any ignorance, but it seems a bit unfair to be demanding perfection 100% of the time...especially in such unorthodox circumstances.

Maybe i'm a bit raw having just read Cathy O'Brien's book 'tranceformation of america', but it seems to me that there are no safe plays in this unprecedented arena. Risks abound. War is never clean, be it physical or psychological. Someone like Simon might be saying to himself: "in the process of helping 2 dozen clients I may fail 2 or 3...and thats a risk i'm willing to take." It's truly a thankless position to be in. I doubt he enjoys it. It takes courage to press forward. It would be easier for him to throw up his hands and say "no more". It's sort of like the surgeon who takes on all the risky back surgeries that his peers won't touch. Some will be success' ..and some won't. Instead of judging him so harshly, perhaps we should be lauding him.

I dunno...

Just providing a devil's advocate position here.

Consider this: despite your unusually high intelligence and discernment skills, youre still going to whiff on a few whistleblowers. And thats totally understandable. And yet there are people that are going to be emotionally and spiritually disillusioned by it, despite your best intentions. They might be wounded in some unexpected way. It's an enormous responsibility you must feel..and yet, I doubt that a few missteps would stop you from continuing.

If it's revealed that Simon is being totally and utterly and unforgivably irresponsible, i'll eat my words. But it seems to me that he's trying his absolute best in the absolute worst of conditions. Perhaps its a case of him biting off more than he can chew...in which case we should still acknowledge his good intentions just as we acknowledge his shortcomings. In other words, I don't feel he's being deliberately harmful. Unfortunately, we're only hearing one side of the story here. Although I have huge respect for your opinions Bill, I'd be very interested in hearing from some of his success stories before making any sort of final judgement on the man.

[3(C)+me]

I don't want to bash Simon but what I see is people coming to his aid and making excuses for him. Why? We all have a shadow side all of us and Simon does also, could it be that we are seeing it in his counseling style?.
He may help many people with his views, this thread does not take that away but when people can't seem to entertain the fact that Simon may not be "I am a good person just helping the planet" and so on that their may be other things going on, and they do not have to be nefarious.
When he was asking people to join his group for spiritual purposes, fine no problem but if those same people get gang stalked or now are being messed with, I am not saying that is the case, but if that stuff starts getting reported we all need to get out of our denial about what is going on. I have made many statements about this topic, I have the right to change my mind at any time. I may change my mind about this next week or in the next minute, this is the times we are in. I will not marry myself to a view of a person and then do anything not to change it.
We all know that spiritual teachers sometimes are shorefronts for three letter agencies, we know that and some of these individuals don't even consciously know it themselves. They may believe everything they say.


You never tell someone something they are not ready to hear even if it is true. He is not able to read what this person is not going to understand or not. It takes time talking to the person to find out what they want to know. Upsetting information out of left field can be damaging and the person is not able to intergrate it into their daily lives, too upsetting to shocking. But the appointment thing is also a read flag.

[greybeard]

:focus: ... please.

The topic of this thread, started by Alberto e Daniela (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88999-Our-experience-with-Simon-Parkes&p=1047999&viewfull=1#post1047999), is how Simon Parkes handles himself in counseling sessions, and how he manages the scheduling and booking of those sessions, with paid clients. That's all.

It potentially affects quite a lot of people who may be at their most vulnerable.

The thread contains specific experiences, that are problematic and concerning, reported by known, real, people, who are forum members. This isn't casual, malevolent, irresponsible innuendo or rumor.

I've been sent a recording of one session, and it's a horror story. Any certified counselor would be banned for life — with no risk of exaggeration — if a formal complaint was made to the certificating authority. In this case, nothing can be done, as Simon isn't qualified or certified.

Of course, I can't and won't share that publicly or privately. It's a little silly, if I may gently say, to ask for that to be posted as 'evidence'. It's for those concerned, and only for those concerned, to share those recordings if they wish or choose. But the session recordings all exist.

This isn't untrue, invented, any kind of a 'smear' or 'attack', or a false malevolent rumor. It is what it is, nothing more or less, and it's merely pretty awful stuff that breaches any counselor's code one might ever conceive of.

I think Bill is very specific in this post and it relates to what he heard on the recording.

Bill is not prone to exaggeration

The last paragraph copied here sums it up

"This isn't untrue, invented, any kind of a 'smear' or 'attack', or a false malevolent rumor. It is what it is, nothing more or less, and it's merely pretty awful stuff that breaches any counselor's code one might ever conceive of."


Please think not of Simon and his information--the end does not justify the means--think rather of the people who have stated on this thread what happened on visiting Simon for counseling.

If this happened to you or one of your family how would you feel?

Chris

[AutumnW]

Mike,

It's hardly fair to compare Bill Ryan with Simon Parkes, in any way. It is one thing to make honest mistakes. It is another to lie and abuse people, particularly within the context of 'therapy,' licensed or not. These are moral failings.

It reminds me of the Catholic Church, the same church with such a fanatical narrow angle focus on 'sin,' defaulting to the 'they made mistakes,' excuse, (with regards child abuse) instead of using their own paradigm. The priests were sinful evil wicked.

Simon Parkes, is likely making everything up....all of it, so that he can pose as an expert and 'heal' people and make lots of money doing it. I would wager that the reason he isn't terribly concerned about treating some people terribly is a matter of money.

He has a large enough client base, now, he can afford to be a bit sloppy. Maintenance of a facade is very energy draining and the personality disordered are typically caught out when they relax and let the mask drop.

[Alberto e Daniela]

I also noted that he would combine really terrifying information with over the top flattery.



Just to confirm, the same menu was served to us.

[Shannon]

Mike,

It's hardly fair to compare Bill Ryan with Simon Parkes, in any way. It is one thing to make honest mistakes. It is another to lie and abuse people, particularly within the context of 'therapy,' licensed or not. These are moral failings.

It reminds me of the Catholic Church, the same church with such a fanatical narrow angle focus on 'sin,' defaulting to the 'they made mistakes,' excuse, (with regards child abuse) instead of using their own paradigm. The priests were sinful evil wicked.

Simon Parkes, is likely making everything up....all of it, so that he can pose as an expert and 'heal' people and make lots of money doing it. I would wager that the reason he isn't terribly concerned about treating some people terribly is a matter of money.

He has a large enough client base, now, he can afford to be a bit sloppy. Maintenance of a facade is very energy draining and the personality disordered are typically caught out when they relax and let the mask drop.

You make some very good points, autumn, and clearly there are concerns about the proof and witnesses to his shoddy counseling/ therapy/ soul reading/ deprogramming, yet no concerns about his shoddy mummy mantis and other fantasic tales. Why is proof so nessecary for one but not the other? Don't ask me....lol. :)

I would need some real proof of being involved in such dark programs from my deprogrammer..how they learned, lived, escaped, yadda yadda.

[Mike]

Mike,

It's hardly fair to compare Bill Ryan with Simon Parkes, in any way. It is one thing to make honest mistakes. It is another to lie and abuse people, particularly within the context of 'therapy,' licensed or not. These are moral failings.

It reminds me of the Catholic Church, the same church with such a fanatical narrow angle focus on 'sin,' defaulting to the 'they made mistakes,' excuse, (with regards child abuse) instead of using their own paradigm. The priests were sinful evil wicked.

Simon Parkes, is likely making everything up....all of it, so that he can pose as an expert and 'heal' people and make lots of money doing it. I would wager that the reason he isn't terribly concerned about treating some people terribly is a matter of money.

He has a large enough client base, now, he can afford to be a bit sloppy. Maintenance of a facade is very energy draining and the personality disordered are typically caught out when they relax and let the mask drop.



Maybe Simon's mistakes are honest ones. Have you considered that? The comparison to Bill was a pretty loose one, designed only to provide another dimension to the debate...another way of thinking about it.

I'm not here to defend Simon at all costs or anything like that. In fact, I disagree with him more than I agree with him. I just saw an opportunity for a different angle, and took it.

Simon has a large client base? Well, he must be helping somebody. Me, I'd like to hear from those somebody's. Thats all i'm basically saying.

[Agape]

I also noted that he would combine really terrifying information with over the top flattery.



Just to confirm, the same menu was served to us.


Ok. Could you please confirm if that's alright to ask , what was he saying , in gist ? Did you feel like he wants you to believe him ?




:bearhug:

[ThePythonicCow]

Flash, a currently retired member of Avalon, sent me the following report on her interactions with Simon Parkes, with her permission for me to post it if I thought it worth posting.

The moderators and myself easily decided that it was well worth posting here.

Flash introduced her report to me saying:


I prepared what I think is a balanced report of what I saw and lived while under Simon’s spell – yes, it may seems like a spell, but we can awaken from it.

If you want to post it, go and do it, saying it is from Flash, if you think it is not worth it, then do as you wish, it is up to you.

Here is the text of Flash's report included as an attachment in her email:

==========


I read all the posts about Simon in this thread. And plus, Onawah did
mention me and daughter, regarding Simon. I was not going to send any
post, but since we were mentioned, here It is.

To me, there is many zones of grey in his approach. However, I do not
perceive his intentions as bad, in fact they are not usually. Only may be
misguided at times.

I had extensive experience with Simon approaches and support. I am one of
the first one who had contacted him for help, being in dire circumstances at
the time. I must say that his support has been scattered over one year and
half, and even more for my daughter. She was in a very bad part of her
teenagerhood.

Having had neurological impairment making her academic learning and
communication skills quite arduous, she had to work four times more than
others throughout. Plus, her mom, me, had put her on a curative path for at
least twelve years prior to hitting sixteen, with overstimulation and exercises
and diets and name it, from physiotherapies to speech therapies to dolphin
therapies to situational therapies to private singing lessons (to learn to
speak) to private piano lessons (for fine motor skills) to artistic skating (for
motor coordination), to tutoring ... name it, and more -- very costly
psychologically and demanding for her -- all in the hope of creating new
synaptic and neurological pathways to correct her impairments.

Well it worked, she is now basically fine, BUT, it took a toll on her and she did
not want to live anymore when she got to be sixteen.

I wrote to Simon at the time and he offered FREE support, since she was
having her dying spells at night, he made her promise to e-mail him when a
spell would come so that he would contact her on skype to speak to her. The
difference in time (America vs England) made wonders, my night was his
early morning. I could finally sleep at night for five hours since he took care
of her.

Of course, he took care of her in his own ways, meaning telling us that she
had been programmed by the cabal to be a "butterfly" monarch slave,
with a wolfe program that had suicide triggers included,, etc etc, that we both
were Lyrans and Pleiadians, that the reptiles would try to stop us at any price,
the whole shehanigan. To tell the truth, my basic trust was not great, but
hey, I needed help. So I read every single thing I could find on Dracos,
Mantids, Satanic programs, etc etc. A real speed studying with complex
topics, within a few months.

Simon had told us, much in advance, that he would be around only for a
while, like a year or so and that later we would have to handle life by
ourselves, he would basically get out of our lifes, want it or not. Which he did.

My daughter and I went to meet him 6 months after the first contact (lollll),
my daughter being still fragile. I thought it would make her some good. And it
did. Simon did nothing wrong, but.. I was present at all times with her, and we
were both protected with high energy spiritual friends (which I did not know
when there, they told me later).

Therefore, we bought into the Dracos, Mantids and Satanic programming
things for a while. In it, he father was demonised as being satanic (not hard
for me to believe), but we never acted on it, so no damages there. And does
it matter?

Not truly, I think. We needed to hear something that would justify the misery
we were both in at the time.

And yes, we were both fragile and in needs.

Later, Simon still kept in touch with her when she got a very bad boyfriend,
so that she would not get away with him. Of course, going deeper in the
Dracos/Mantids related talks and presumed programs and deprogrammation
of both the boyfriend and my daughter going on, through skype.

Now, was Simon a therapist. No, he never said he was. He only thought he
could help with cabal's programming having been given the keys for
deprogramming by the King Dracos himself, so he said. I am pretty sure
Simon is sincere when he says this. I am sure it is right, of course not. Is it
delusional? Well, who am I to say?

Did it damage me or my daughter? No, I do not think so, in the long run.
Why? Because we both, daughter and I, decided that we did not want to know
anything about anything related to dracos and mantids, that the stories about
them be true or not, did not matter, we both independently from each other
decided to throw them out of our life. They were firmly out of our life. And I
must say That Simon helped into this, telling us to sustain our own strong
energies and not to bend to anything reptilian or reptilian looking in terms of
behavior.

Now, Simon is disorganised, does not answer e-mails lots of time, misses his
skype appointments many times, and makes us feel bad and aggravated at
times. In fact, if there is no danger in his own views, he does not respond to
our queries when he judges it is useless and nobody, but nobody will ever
make him do things he does not want to. Is he a loving being -- not sure, I did
not feel the love (I did not feel hate either), but I felt an absence of love,
which for a human being can be somewhat difficult. And this is my private
feelings, they may have been sidetracked by what I was living at the time.

However I absolutely surely felt and saw his caring, and yet more towards my
daughter.

In fact, it is difficult to believe that he would not have any reptilian
tendencies, or mantids since we are at it, because he does behave like the
descriptions we have of them at times (somewhat cold but caring for those
under their wing, definitely very strong second chakra energies that can be
felt by any woman, but always respectful of someone's refusal and all, etc.).
He was always respectful even if sometimes a bit "rude" in his language,
naming things as he saw them and he does not behave as we expect he
should, which is certainly aggravating at times.

Now, was there anything bizarre or strange events that went on related to
him. Yes there were. The story he tells in some of this speeches of the young
guy who had picked a flower in his garden and the police arresting him and
coming into Simon's house, most probably to check on whom was there, is
entirely true, I was there as a witness and it was rather weird. The feeling of
being with someone who definitely do not think like us was very strong. I did
not feel that he was spiritually quite awaken however. The description of the
way reptilians groan, click or walk or stand in different situations was quite
exhaustive. And I saw it later on in one other person who had no idea about
what I had been told, when he kind of spaced out and changed personalities.
And more ...

Did he charged? Never, however I brought him some gifts because I did not
want to be in debt toward a draco lollllllll, if he is one, gifts equivalent to the
amount of time he gave my daughter before we visited him, and later sent
him some maple syrup sweets for the subsequent year he gave to her and
her bad boyfriend. These gifts were never asked from me.

Now, I do think however that when dealing with Dracos or the like (cabal,
Satanists, name it), there is a price that will be asked from you at some point
-- but it did not come from Simon. And I held my ground firmly and still would.
Darkness will never be a companion of ours if we refuse to play with it.

We are now doing fine daughter and I, psychologically and physically, we are
both basically happy and are thriving our own ways, which has nothing to do
with reptilians or mantids or even conspiracies of any kind -- plain human
beings filled with loving hearts.

The lesson I took from all of it:

Help may come from the most unexpected places, yet it is still somewhat
heaven sent.

Hold your own spirit as soon as you can

Dracos, Mantids and company are all a reflection of whom we are, our darkest
sides, use the opportunity to work on awareness of whom you are

Without us, plain human, real creators of our own life and environment, they
are absolutely nothing, they literally vanish. So don't dwelve into dark
thoughts. Do not give it energy.

Finally after acknowledging it, reject negativity of all kinds, including Dracos,
reptilians, Mantids and Cabal/Satanists and hold firm in this path while
opening your heart to yourself first, and then to others.

Help others to do the same. Open your hearts, reject dark thoughts and
replace them with loving ones.


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[Savannah]

Becky, who is also an Avalon member since 2013 and a friend of Simon's who handles his bookings, etc. says that he has hundreds of clients who have been helped. If the complaints are the vast minority, what does that say?

It says the same as would be the case for a doctor who only kills a few patients, an engineer who only has a few of his bridges collapse, or a pilot who only crashes a few times a year. :)

If I fail

None of these things should happen at all.

And it's not much of an exaggeration to give those analogies. A vulnerable person who's been abused by a counselor can sometimes experience lasting, extensive damage.

I'd suggest to Becky, who's reading this thread and seems to be asking onawah to make certain points on her or Simon's behalf:

Don't make excuses. Make some apologies. There may be some realities that need facing up to. That would be a good start.



I'm not so sure about that, Bill.

I'm jumping on this thread a little late, so please excuse any ignorance, but it seems a bit unfair to be demanding perfection 100% of the time...especially in such unorthodox circumstances.

Maybe i'm a bit raw having just read Cathy O'Brien's book 'tranceformation of america', but it seems to me that there are no safe plays in this unprecedented arena. Risks abound. War is never clean, be it physical or psychological. Someone like Simon might be saying to himself: "in the process of helping 2 dozen clients I may fail 2 or 3...and thats a risk i'm willing to take." It's truly a thankless position to be in. I doubt he enjoys it. It takes courage to press forward. It would be easier for him to throw up his hands and say "no more". It's sort of like the surgeon who takes on all the risky back surgeries that his peers won't touch. Some will be success' ..and some won't. Instead of judging him so harshly, perhaps we should be lauding him.

I dunno...

Just providing a devil's advocate position here.

Consider this: despite your unusually high intelligence and discernment skills, youre still going to whiff on a few whistleblowers. And thats totally understandable. And yet there are people that are going to be emotionally and spiritually disillusioned by it, despite your best intentions. They might be wounded in some unexpected way. It's an enormous responsibility you must feel..and yet, I doubt that a few missteps would stop you from continuing.

If it's revealed that Simon is being totally and utterly and unforgivably irresponsible, i'll eat my words. But it seems to me that he's trying his absolute best in the absolute worst of conditions. Perhaps its a case of him biting off more than he can chew...in which case we should still acknowledge his good intentions just as we acknowledge his shortcomings. In other words, I don't feel he's being deliberately harmful. Unfortunately, we're only hearing one side of the story here. Although I have huge respect for your opinions Bill, I'd be very interested in hearing from some of his success stories before making any sort of final judgement on the man.

"It is about demanding perfection" Perfection when counseling someone is not just about getting it right, it's about "do no harm". If you do things like abandon clients, fail to show for appointments or provide information that is too disturbing, or done too quickly, without thinking of the consequences or helping the person understand and adjust to it,then you have done deliberate harm. I cant agree more with what Bill wrote, I wanted to write that myself but hesitated to keep this thread going because it was so going into two different directions. Simon does not advertise he is just a psychic or giving you your horoscope. In which case you could more easily take or leave what is said. Once someone states they can fix you, heal you, help you, that comes with with ethical obligations. This thread kept veering off into what they think about his personal claims of his experiences and that to me is a completely different matter and is confusing the issue of his services.

People may think his not keeping my appointment was a little thing, however I beg to differ. He once again demonstrated to me that humans can be uncaring and my needs mean nothing to them. Yes you can agree that's a lesson but not one a counselor should give you. Second I have provided therapy to thousands of people and while I choose to do that and it is rewarding, it can also burn you out and make you feel like it's your turn for help sometimes. So after not getting that call I again felt like "am I not worth it". No counselor should have made me feel that way. Thankfully that only lasted a second, but if I was emotionally fragile it could have been worse.

[onawah]

Wonderful, Flash! Thanks so much. We miss you. :hug:

[Bill Ryan]

Once someone states they can fix you, heal you, help you, that comes with with ethical obligations.

People may think his not keeping my appointment was a little thing, however I beg to differ. He once again demonstrated to me that humans can be uncaring and my needs mean nothing to them. Yes you can agree that's a lesson but not one a counselor should give you. Second I have provided therapy to thousands of people and while I choose to do that and it is rewarding, it can also burn you out and make you feel like it's your turn for help sometimes. So after not getting that call I again felt like "am I not worth it". No counselor should have made me feel that way.

:bump:

Especially the sentence in red. That should be carved somewhere in stone, for all generations to come.

[AutumnW]

Mike,

It's hardly fair to compare Bill Ryan with Simon Parkes, in any way. It is one thing to make honest mistakes. It is another to lie and abuse people, particularly within the context of 'therapy,' licensed or not. These are moral failings.

It reminds me of the Catholic Church, the same church with such a fanatical narrow angle focus on 'sin,' defaulting to the 'they made mistakes,' excuse, (with regards child abuse) instead of using their own paradigm. The priests were sinful evil wicked.

Simon Parkes, is likely making everything up....all of it, so that he can pose as an expert and 'heal' people and make lots of money doing it. I would wager that the reason he isn't terribly concerned about treating some people terribly is a matter of money.

He has a large enough client base, now, he can afford to be a bit sloppy. Maintenance of a facade is very energy draining and the personality disordered are typically caught out when they relax and let the mask drop.



Maybe Simon's mistakes are honest ones. Have you considered that? The comparison to Bill was a pretty loose one, designed only to provide another dimension to the debate...another way of thinking about it.

I'm not here to defend Simon at all costs or anything like that. In fact, I disagree with him more than I agree with him. I just saw an opportunity for a different angle, and took it.

Simon has a large client base? Well, he must be helping somebody. Me, I'd like to hear from those somebody's. Thats all i'm basically saying.

Mike, the point I was making is Simon is NOT making mistakes! He is lying and abusing people, vulnerable people
He is a :

Cunning conman
Shady, shaman charlatan
Fable faking fakir

And last but not least-- a mummified mantis manufacturer.

There! Hope there is no further misunderstanding, as far as my point of view goes!

[AutumnW]

Mike,

Flash and her daughter made the most of a very bizarre experience, due to Flash's great mothering skills. Also, when one is profoundly depressed they have often entered a realm of non-meaning, or profound apathy.

Any imposition of belief that prods the client to escape mental and emotional austerity and lock on to the archetypal realm CAN be an improvement. It also has the potential to be terrifying. This to me, is what Parkes is doing. It doesn't mean he is a good or caring person....at all.

There could easily be some dark stuff going on. The best you can do is learn what you can, be skeptical, without debunking and then MOVE ON. Fixating, ruminating about dark forces controlling your mind and others, is a recipe for disaster. Dianne Fortune said that if one feels they are being interfered with spiritually, distraction is the best policy, if at all possible.

[araucaria]

The point where Bill’s analogy of doctors, engineers and pilots at once works and doesn’t work lies in the fact that we have inbuilt redundancy not only for hardware but also for wetware. All those professions operate in teams; even a pilot has a co-pilot or ground crew guiding them. Engineers working in a team also have quantity surveyors breathing down their necks to make sure there is enough metalling in their concrete, etc. Incidents will occasionally nonetheless occur when a novel and unexpected situation arises that standard procedures including redundancy fail to address.

The thing about the likes of Simon Parkes is that they are flying solo, with no manual of standard procedures, and they are likely dealing exclusively in such non-textbook situations where something drastic has to be attempted, like an untried medication designed for something else and having huge side effects. The question I would have would concern diagnosis: how is it being performed? Apparently it is enough for someone to apply to Simon to have an issue he can help with. I wonder, has he ever turned someone away because their problem was only a humdrum human issue that had nothing to do with his stuff at all? The analogy would be a cardiologist prescribing aspirin for a patient sent to him for an irregular heartbeat, maybe after losing a loved one. If there are no false positives, then we are basically dealing with self-diagnosis and a consumerist approach to health care. A specialist has to be able to say No, you are fine without me.

[greybeard]

I think its important to look at the basic requirements for counseling.
Healing crisis can happen --is the therapist contactable?
Can they deal with what looks to the client to be an emergency? and yes that can happen in any variety of helping.

Many who have been seen to do great work have a dark side.
What makes them attractive, their charisma is a magnet to the vulnerable.

As an extreme parallel there are the Jimmy Saviles of the world--no one at the time would suspect them of being abusers.

Abuse takes many forms but the suspicion of abuse, in just one instance can lead to the law being involved--civil or other wise.

One to one counseling not so easy to prove or disprove but there is the audio tape in this instance and testimony from others.

Here we have evidence on tape and the testimony of several Avalon members--all with similar stories.

At the very least the conclusion surely is that some thing is not right, not wholesome, not what it was supposed to be in those sessions.

Therapists are working on their own normally but they have set guidelines and an unhappy client can refer to the training authority--that safe guard is not in place with Simon.

Can it be that some see Simon as a special case because he is a contactee?
With abuse there can be no defense as such if it happened.

There can be mitigating circumstances but that does not prove innocence.

Bill listened to the tape and he is fair minded-- I take his word on this.

Chris

[Bill Ryan]

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This is a slightly edited segment of a message I received from a reader who, understandably, wants to be anonymous.






Some people, like onawah and Agape, are continually muddying the waters so that it is difficult for whistleblowers to put their information across, to say nothing about the psychological effect on the whistleblowers to have their claims dismissed as lies or figments of a deranged mind.

I find the posts by onawah and Agape are as organized and contradictory as a mad woman’s washing and further add to the confusion. (Of course the mad woman does not see the confusion and thinks all is in order.)

People like Alberto e Daniela, Bibi, AutumnW, Savannah, Omniverse, Blue Radiance, Ron Mauer Sr, Flash, Callista and the other non-member whose message was posted by Bill have shared their direct personal experiences on Avalon to warn other people, and yet their disclosures are being used as fodder to make contrasting retaliatory statements.

It seems that the detractors are not being held accountable for their attacks on those who have the courage to speak out. It takes guts to come out and be a whistleblower as you know. This is what these people are doing – they are whistleblowers, trying to open the eyes of the public to what is going on behind the scenes.

And all the while, Simon and Becky are sitting in the spider’s web watching everyone’s moves, without having the courage to come out and contribute to the unraveling of the truth.

[Pam]

I'm going to call it as I see it, this is really, really scary stuff . Apparently, Simon sees nothing wrong with telling a 16 year old girl that her father is demonized????? There is no harm in telling a teenager she is programmed by the cabal as a "butterfly" monarch slave with a wolf program and suicidal triggers?




Of course, he took care of her in his own ways, meaning telling us that she
had been programmed by the cabal to be a "butterfly" monarch slave,
with a wolfe program that had suicide triggers included,, etc etc, that we both
were Lyrans and Pleiadians, that the reptiles would try to stop us at any price,
the whole shehanigan. To tell the truth, my basic trust was not great, but
hey, I needed help. So I read every single thing I could find on Dracos,
Mantids, Satanic programs, etc etc. A real speed studying with complex
topics, within a few months.




Therefore, we bought into the Dracos, Mantids and Satanic programming
things for a while. In it, he father was demonised as being satanic (not hard
for me to believe), but we never acted on it, so no damages there. And does
it matter?
==========[/QUOTE]


I do not believe you can subject a child to this sort of "therapy" and have them walk away unscathed. It is one thing if adults want to pay money for this fantasy, but apparently he's willing to do this to a child. I find this so unethical, it makes my head spin.

[Savannah]

When the question of Simon’s character (good/bad person) comes into question or his motivation or intent (hurt/help) these questions can only be surmised and may never be known. They throw off the crux of the matter and that is the knowable/observable facts (reported harm). All those questions are irrelevant and while they may mitigate the facts they do nothing to eliminate the facts.

[3(C)+me]

Yes, that part at least, is understandable...

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This is a slightly edited segment of a message I received from a reader who, understandably, wants to be anonymous.


So once again, we have the alternative community up in arms against itself. Whistleblowers blowing the whistle on whistleblowers. The elite must be having a good chuckle.

How many whistleblowers, teachers and writers of popular books have we taken to task on the forum?

It's messy especially when people believe that what a person says about himself is true, people have to re-examine their beliefs and it's painful but this is the process.

Case in point, John Lash, we get invested in some point of view, some person and his information and we all shake our heads and say, yes, let's use discernment but then we don't do it. I have been as guilty of this as anyone else.

It can be messy but I don't see any other way, back and forth, feeling hurt, some extremes but this is the way it goes, nothing wrong about it.

At some point things will become clear for those who can risk changing their minds and beliefs about this topic or that person.

[AutumnW]

Hi there Autumn, I might say Flash and her daughter got thru a very bizarre period due to Flash's great mothering skills..AND the assistance of Simon. The time and effort and energy he gave cannot be so easily dismissed. That is an ENORMOUS donation of one's energetic resources...with no remuneration, mind you. You can accuse the man of being unprofessional if you like, but you can't really label him uncaring.

After hearing Flash testimony, what do you s'pose Simon's motivation was? Thats not a rhetorical question. I'm very curious. And i'll listen! Really. The difference here between you and I is that you seem to have made up your mind while I, for better or worse, have not.

Honestly, this stuff with dracos and mantids is way above my pay grade..and it was never really my intent to get into this business of defending Simon with post after post. In that sense, I kind of regret contributing here. In general, when it comes to esoteric areas such as these, I preach the gospel of "I don't know"...and I find it fascinating that one could reach such definitive conclusions from such murky information. Yes, there could be some dark stuff going on....but there also could not be. Who knows? Jury is still out imho.

My mind is pretty much made up. Yes. When it comes to matters as important as messing with the peace of mind of fellow human beings because you are either unprincipled, a complete ignoramus, a fantasy prone bull**** artist...or all of the above, provided with enough info, I make what seems to be a very quick determination. I was suspicious, initially, but didn't criticize him. This is one human, mantid, or whatever the hell he is, I would avoid like the plague.

Something tangentially related, that I picked up somewhere, (movie the exorcist, Malachi Martin??) is priests chosen to do exorcisms are ones who are less imaginative, less poetic, less prone to be drawn into long winded conversations with the devil.

Those who appraise disordered or dark immoral individuals, engaging an appetite for philosophical acrobatics are also, in a sense, dancing with the devil. I mean you no disrespect and applaud what may also be a deep desire to be fair to this guy.

[AutumnW]

Peter Pam,

In defence of Flash here, she was obviously trying to do her best. Also -- and I don't say this in his defence -- at all, if you tell a rebellious adolescent that they have been programmed to kill themselves, they might stop trying, out of sheer spite.

Incredibly risky though. I am assuming by the outcome that Flash had enough insight into her daughter's state of mind that she felt safe having her approached from this angle.

[Shannon]

"Butterfly slave", "demons", "mantids", "wolf program"....listen, i'm inclined to say it's all ridiculous too..but look around!...thats what the whole bloody forum is about man!:)I don't know why anybody here would be so surprised that he'd evoke these archetypes! Its par for the course my friend! If Simon is a bit off, what does that say about us?

Im trying to defend objectivity, not Simon...but ive been forced to defend him a little in an attempt to bring the debate up to a reasonable baseline.

Bottom line: the accusations against Simon are quite serious, and he needs to answer for them. In full. I have no idea who Becky is and - no offense - I don't care. Nothing short of Simon making a full and detailed statement will do. I don't think the conversation can really move forward till he does. Till then, I won't have much to add.


A lot of the arguments, accusations in this thread belong to the old paradigm. When I said that the message is infinitely more important than the messenger, I got a rebuttal which in effect says that the messenger must be examined first. Remember that the PTB　is generations ahead of us in technology, that means in information technoloy/deceit as well, it is absolutely essential to evaluate the message, its consistency etc and pay little attention to the messenger's "integrity". This is because virtually anyone can be vilified through simple proper procedures, and loses all integrity and dies in shame.

Yes, but at what point are we just nodding our heads in agreement with information coming from a delusional, sick mind that is willfully lying and making up junk?

[syrwong]

A lot of the arguments, accusations in this thread belong to the old paradigm. When I said that the message is infinitely more important than the messenger, I got a rebuttal which in effect says that the messenger must be examined first. Remember that the PTB　is generations ahead of us in technology, that means in information technoloy/deceit as well, it is absolutely essential to evaluate the message, its consistency etc and pay little attention to the messenger's "integrity". This is because virtually anyone can be vilified through simple proper procedures, and loses all integrity and dies in shame.

Yes, but at what point are we just nodding our heads in agreement with information coming from a delusional, sick mind that is willfully lying and making up junk?

You agree or disagree with the information itself, whether it is consistent, and within the limits of your belief. Words uttered by trustworthy people, like heads of states, or a famous scientist like Einstein need not be true. Indeed people of the world have been deceived time and again by these people.

It is the identifying the authencity of information with the source that is the problem. That is why the main stream media still have so much support, despite the fact that they clearly lie and hide information time and again. In the world of alternative media, may be we should throw away the concept of reputation and listen more to the ordinary people.

[Pam]

"Butterfly slave", "demons", "mantids", "wolf program"....listen, i'm inclined to say it's all ridiculous too..but look around!...thats what the whole bloody forum is about man!:)I don't know why anybody here would be so surprised that he'd evoke these archetypes! Its par for the course my friend! If Simon is a bit off, what does that say about us?

Im trying to defend objectivity, not Simon...but ive been forced to defend him a little in an attempt to bring the debate up to a reasonable baseline.

Bottom line: the accusations against Simon are quite serious, and he needs to answer for them. In full. I have no idea who Becky is and - no offense - I don't care. Nothing short of Simon making a full and detailed statement will do. I don't think the conversation can really move forward till he does. Till then, I won't have much to add.


I believe you missed my point,Mike. Just like I said in my post, any adult that wants to buy into this and spend their money on this has the right to do so. They can also buy snake oil whenever they like as well.

I am stating it is very unethical, unprofessional and potentially very damaging to give this information to a child. I am very doubtful of the maturity and common sense of an adult that would do this to a child. Also, I wonder about their apparent lack of empathy and compassion in not considering the negative possible outcomes that might occur. I know if I would have been given that information as a teenager, it would have been devastating.

[Pam]

Peter Pam,

In defence of Flash here, she was obviously trying to do her best. Also -- and I don't say this in his defence -- at all, if you tell a rebellious adolescent that they have been programmed to kill themselves, they might stop trying, out of sheer spite.

Incredibly risky though. I am assuming by the outcome that Flash had enough insight into her daughter's state of mind that she felt safe having her approached from this angle.




I never brought up the mother, I am talking about the person offering and providing the "therapy" here.

[Bill Ryan]

there are two sides to this story

A parent who only beats their child once a month...
A spouse who only has affairs now and then...
A counselor who only abuses their clients occasionally...

...doesn't constitute 'two sides to the story'.

[greybeard]

Onawah you are obviously a concerned, caring and loyal person but this is a clear cut case(s) of inappropriate counseling.
As Bill has repeatedly pointed out there is no other side to the story--abuse is abuse.
It does not matter how many have been helped.

As a case in point Jimmy Saville would have been responsible for the helping of many--he raised an enormous amount of money for good causes.
Does that excuse or justify one abuse that he perpetrated?
I think not.

Chris

[greybeard]

Onawah if you get a thousand people who were genuinely helped to confirm that does that mean to say that the people who testified on this thread that the counseling was "inappropriate" (my word) got it wrong.
I think if you heard the tape that Bill has listened to you might change your mind.

Bill did not hold back, he was very clear to the degree that Simon was inappropriate in his behavior.
Im being kind with the word inappropriate.
.
Chris

[greybeard]

Dear friends at Avalon

we'd like to share with you our experience, after a year or so in contact with Simon Parkes and the Connecting Consciousness group created by him.

This is a warning to those who, like us, have seen in Simon very a serious and knowledgeable person, worthy of trust for a most delicate matter, such as identifying and removing entities, implants and programs of alien origin from our body and mind.

To make a long story short: with patience and a reasonable payment, you can get in contact with Simon, but do not expect him to keep his promises or to finish what he started.

Here is the story:

We are a couple, Daniela and Alberto. We are Italian, but have spent a few years in South America and recently have settled down in England.

We have been in search of the truth for the last twenty years or so, including several years spent in an esoteric school, which we eventually left, because of suspicious attitudes of the leader, who claimed to have ET contacts, but we suspect had actually been taken over by them.

Since then Daniela felt a heavy interference on her life by unknown forces, which probably are alien in nature. She sees small creatures or machines floating over her bed in the first moments upon waking up, which then disappear. She receives frequent psychic attacks, in the form of waves of desperation, or sadness, the kind which makes you tired of living. One night she saw herself teleported into a spaceship, in a half-dream state, and got a dizzy feeling. And much more ... including uncountable UFO sightings, and episodes of loss of memory.

A couple of years after leaving that esoteric group, upon discovering Simon’s activities and his claims about being able to help in such cases, we sought his help and booked consultations with him, which took place on Skype during the springtime of 2015.
We had a great start, four Skype video-conversations when we had a most positive impression about Simon and his work. It felt like we had found a long lost friend.

Simon said we had actually met a long time before, not on Earth. He also commented that we two, as a team, are a problem for the elite. His explanation of the symptoms Daniela experiences are that there may be an ongoing attack towards her, and that a program was installed in her, which erases her memory.

Big problems, and a worrying situation, so we expected his help to be at the same level.

The actual treatment had just begun when, in june 2015, while ending a Skype conversation, he told us we would talk again in a week.

To make a long story short, we never more heard from him, despite countless attempts to get in touch, even through his collaborators. The most we could get was a few words on a Skype chat, “will call you soon”, and then nothing happened. During this strange period we even met him personally on a lecture, when we had the weird feeling of a person without vibration. On that occasion, without showing any embarrassment, he gave us his phone number. Needles to say, our calls and SMS were never returned.

We came to know that several people who have been consulting with him were left with an unfinished treatment.

Of course we wonder what is the real goal he has: why taking on new cases when he can’t finished the pending ones? If we suppose he acts with intelligence towards a definite goal, than this is achieved when he get in contact with people and scans them, and asks them to concentrate on his image (as he does on his website as well in the procedure to remove entities).
In cases like ours, once this is done, he loses interest, and without a word of warning or explanation, he cuts the contact and moves on to connect to others.

This would not be the first episode we see, when a very good person is taken over, modified and used by beings of another level, to carry out actions on light workers: attract them with knowledge, penetrate their minds, or keep them stuck around cults, etc.


with love and light,
Alberto and Daniela

Thought I would bump the OP to remind myself what the thread started off being about.

Chris

[greybeard]

There seems to be some disbelief in the testimony of Avalon members --who lets face it were there and experienced first hand what ever they experienced.
Suggesting the "victim" is lying is to my mind a form of abuse.
No wonder people are reluctant to report abuse particular when the person they believe abused their trust is relatively well known

Chris

[greybeard]

Its really simple onawah --Is Simon promoting fear or love?

A recording shows more than the written word--the tone of the voice--the reaction to words exchanged--the overall essence of the communication.
One tape but several members sharing experience.
Once upon a time Simon could do no wrong here but that has happened several times with different stars of the moment.
The moment a person is put on a pedestal the end result is almost predictable.

The Buddha said "Put no head above your own." Good advice.

Is Smon a wolf in sheep's clothing? ---time will surely tell.

I would not wish to stand alongside some one who in my opinion promotes fear while implying that they are knowledgeable spiritually.

Chris

[Flash]

I came back in Avalon precisely to rectify some misconceptions or mis-interpretations I have noticed regarding my previous post regarding my and my daughter’s interactions with Simon.
Apart from that, I may refrain from posting until survival (jobs) is solved entirely.
There will be here a revision of other posters comments regarding my post, to rectify misconceptions, then some more additions related to our interactions with Simon and then a further conclusion, related yet different from the on from my previous post.
Finally, please remember that English is not my mother tongue, therefore I may have quite a few grammatical mistakes, please forgive them.
My first post content for the logical follow-up:
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I read all the posts about Simon in this thread. And plus, Onawah did
mention me and daughter, regarding Simon. I was not going to send any
post, but since we were mentioned, here It is.

To me, there is many zones of grey in his approach. However, I do not
perceive his intentions as bad, in fact they are not usually. Only may be
misguided at times.

I had extensive experience with Simon approaches and support. I am one of
the first one who had contacted him for help, being in dire circumstances at
the time. I must say that his support has been scattered over one year and
half, and even more for my daughter. She was in a very bad part of her
teenagerhood.

Having had neurological impairment making her academic learning and
communication skills quite arduous, she had to work four times more than
others throughout. Plus, her mom, me, had put her on a curative path for at
least twelve years prior to hitting sixteen, with overstimulation and exercises
and diets and name it, from physiotherapies to speech therapies to dolphin
therapies to situational therapies to private singing lessons (to learn to
speak) to private piano lessons (for fine motor skills) to artistic skating (for
motor coordination), to tutoring ... name it, and more -- very costly
psychologically and demanding for her -- all in the hope of creating new
synaptic and neurological pathways to correct her impairments.

Well it worked, she is now basically fine, BUT, it took a toll on her and she did
not want to live anymore when she got to be sixteen.

I wrote to Simon at the time and he offered FREE support, since she was
having her dying spells at night, he made her promise to e-mail him when a
spell would come so that he would contact her on skype to speak to her. The
difference in time (America vs England) made wonders, my night was his
early morning. I could finally sleep at night for five hours since he took care
of her.

Of course, he took care of her in his own ways, meaning telling us that she
had been programmed by the cabal to be a "butterfly" monarch slave,
with a wolfe program that had suicide triggers included,, etc etc, that we both
were Lyrans and Pleiadians, that the reptiles would try to stop us at any price,
the whole shehanigan. To tell the truth, my basic trust was not great, but
hey, I needed help. So I read every single thing I could find on Dracos,
Mantids, Satanic programs, etc etc. A real speed studying with complex
topics, within a few months.

Simon had told us, much in advance, that he would be around only for a
while, like a year or so and that later we would have to handle life by
ourselves, he would basically get out of our lifes, want it or not. Which he did.

My daughter and I went to meet him 6 months after the first contact (lollll),
my daughter being still fragile. I thought it would make her some good. And it
did. Simon did nothing wrong, but.. I was present at all times with her, and we
were both protected with high energy spiritual friends (which I did not know
when there, they told me later).

Therefore, we bought into the Dracos, Mantids and Satanic programming
things for a while. In it, he father was demonised as being satanic (not hard
for me to believe), but we never acted on it, so no damages there. And does
it matter?

Not truly, I think. We needed to hear something that would justify the misery
we were both in at the time.

And yes, we were both fragile and in needs.

Later, Simon still kept in touch with her when she got a very bad boyfriend,
so that she would not get away with him. Of course, going deeper in the
Dracos/Mantids related talks and presumed programs and deprogrammation
of both the boyfriend and my daughter going on, through skype.

Now, was Simon a therapist. No, he never said he was. He only thought he
could help with cabal's programming having been given the keys for
deprogramming by the King Dracos himself, so he said. I am pretty sure
Simon is sincere when he says this. I am sure it is right, of course not. Is it
delusional? Well, who am I to say?

Did it damage me or my daughter? No, I do not think so, in the long run.
Why? Because we both, daughter and I, decided that we did not want to know
anything about anything related to dracos and mantids, that the stories about
them be true or not, did not matter, we both independently from each other
decided to throw them out of our life. They were firmly out of our life. And I
must say That Simon helped into this, telling us to sustain our own strong
energies and not to bend to anything reptilian or reptilian looking in terms of
behavior.

Now, Simon is disorganised, does not answer e-mails lots of time, misses his
skype appointments many times, and makes us feel bad and aggravated at
times. In fact, if there is no danger in his own views, he does not respond to
our queries when he judges it is useless and nobody, but nobody will ever
make him do things he does not want to. Is he a loving being -- not sure, I did
not feel the love (I did not feel hate either), but I felt an absence of love,
which for a human being can be somewhat difficult. And this is my private
feelings, they may have been sidetracked by what I was living at the time.

However I absolutely surely felt and saw his caring, and yet more towards my
daughter.

In fact, it is difficult to believe that he would not have any reptilian
tendencies, or mantids since we are at it, because he does behave like the
descriptions we have of them at times (somewhat cold but caring for those
under their wing, definitely very strong second chakra energies that can be
felt by any woman, but always respectful of someone's refusal and all, etc.).
He was always respectful even if sometimes a bit "rude" in his language,
naming things as he saw them and he does not behave as we expect he
should, which is certainly aggravating at times.

Now, was there anything bizarre or strange events that went on related to
him. Yes there were. The story he tells in some of this speeches of the young
guy who had picked a flower in his garden and the police arresting him and
coming into Simon's house, most probably to check on whom was there, is
entirely true, I was there as a witness and it was rather weird. The feeling of
being with someone who definitely do not think like us was very strong. I did
not feel that he was spiritually quite awaken however. The description of the
way reptilians groan, click or walk or stand in different situations was quite
exhaustive. And I saw it later on in one other person who had no idea about
what I had been told, when he kind of spaced out and changed personalities.
And more ...

Did he charged? Never, however I brought him some gifts because I did not
want to be in debt toward a draco lollllllll, if he is one, gifts equivalent to the
amount of time he gave my daughter before we visited him, and later sent
him some maple syrup sweets for the subsequent year he gave to her and
her bad boyfriend. These gifts were never asked from me.

Now, I do think however that when dealing with Dracos or the like (cabal,
Satanists, name it), there is a price that will be asked from you at some point
-- but it did not come from Simon. And I held my ground firmly and still would.
Darkness will never be a companion of ours if we refuse to play with it.

We are now doing fine daughter and I, psychologically and physically, we are
both basically happy and are thriving our own ways, which has nothing to do
with reptilians or mantids or even conspiracies of any kind -- plain human
beings filled with loving hearts.

The lesson I took from all of it:

Help may come from the most unexpected places, yet it is still somewhat
heaven sent.

Hold your own spirit as soon as you can

Dracos, Mantids and company are all a reflection of whom we are, our darkest
sides, use the opportunity to work on awareness of whom you are

Without us, plain human, real creators of our own life and environment, they
are absolutely nothing, they literally vanish. So don't dwelve into dark
thoughts. Do not give it energy.

Finally after acknowledging it, reject negativity of all kinds, including Dracos,
reptilians, Mantids and Cabal/Satanists and hold firm in this path while
opening your heart to yourself first, and then to others.

Help others to do the same. Open your hearts, reject dark thoughts and
replace them with loving ones.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Now, answering to comments with further content of interactions


From Autumn: I also noted that he would combine really terrifying information with over the top flattery. As in-- "you are a very very important universal psychic force. Therefore, different agencies have always had this intense interest in you. As a result, you have been tinkered with mentally, for as long as you can remember! You are so infested and compromised that I don't know if even I can do anything about it. It's kind of creeping ME out!"

I must mention here that Simon does flatter people at times, making the awful news more digestible. There is two components to this:
1. Simon believes that most of us are tampered with, as long as we are from a soul (I say soul not blood) lineage that is worth tampering with from the Dracos and Cabal’s point of view, which would be most members here.

2. And who are worth tampering with: those who can counteract their plans and those who have in previous lives. The soul is tracked from incarnation to incarnation. Therefore, these, following Simon’s views, are tampered with from the start of their incarnation, in the womb itself. It does explain why most contacting him would have been played with in his views.


3. When I first got into contact with Simon and because my daughter was involved, I read extensively on programming, reptilians, mantids, pleaiadians, higher levels cabal, Satanists, etc etc. But this was not enough to my taste.

4. So by chance, I got into contact with Shane, who did not know anything about Simon at the time. I had nights over nights asking questions to Shane, not telling him what Simon said, but cross checking the information. Shane was extremely patient with the ignorant me, open and quite explicit when it came to Dracos, Tall Blondes, and informative concerning Satanists and cabal, etc and his information was concordant with Simon’s, despite the fact that they did not know each other, which truly blew my mind away. Both had my whole world paradigm shifted 180 degrees. This was in 2013, much before Shane published any blog.

5. From this point on, it was quite possible that we could be tampered with from conception. Therefore, having a similar way of presenting the tampering we suffered from, if we did, would be quite plausible – from Simon’s views - , since it would be from the same source, for similar reasons.

[Flash]

From Peter Pam

Posted by peterpam (here)
I'm going to call it as I see it, this is really, really scary stuff . Apparently, Simon sees nothing wrong with telling a 16 year old girl that her father is demonized????? There is no harm in telling a teenager she is programmed by the cabal as a "butterfly" monarch slave with a wolf program and suicidal triggers?
...
I do not believe you can subject a child to this sort of "therapy" and have them walk away unscathed. It is one thing if adults want to pay money for this fantasy, but apparently he's willing to do this to a child. I find this so unethical, it makes my head spin.

1. First, Simon specifically requested that I’d be there at all time. He did not do anything to a child without making sure the adult responsible is there. Except for nightime in America, day time in England, when I would finally have a few hours of sleep because he skyped with her at night when needed.

2. I must say something here: when my daughter was bullied at school, I ask for help here and had tons of references of all kind including a Maui offer for a Maui circle for her.

When I requested help for my thyroid cyst, that are finally remaining there on edge, but did not turn into cancer, I had tons of information from you guys.
But nobody, nobody absolutely nobody will get involved for a teenager attempting suicide. And I understand this.

I had few words of encouragement from some of you here, that was it. When I asked to some of you what you thought of Simon, some here actually liking the posts where it is said it is terrible what Simon did to a teenager, well, you told me to be patient, to accept the help, that it would be fine, etc etc etc. So please….

3. The only one who got involved with us on a day to day basis trying to help was Simon. And he did what he told us he would, albeit extremely unorthodox, I admit. And yes he missed tons of appointments, made me chase him to learn more, etc.

4. Peter Pam, when Simon demonised my daughter’s dad, well, it was extremely easy to agree with this taking into account the physical, emotional and mental destruction he had put us through (I am not talking of regular divorcee, but of dealing with a pervert narcissist – the true mental disorder term – with a thirst for power, zero empathy, high level free mason, and much more, etc).Simon’s knew since we told him, so the conclusion was very easy.


5. Finally, Simon himself told us again and again to hold to our own truth, to whom we are deep down, not to bend to any cabal, reptilian, or whatever. And we did, which meant rejecting the Dracos and Mantids for both of us.

The whole thing was completely unorthodox, and at times really weird. But hey, the only strategy for both Simon and I, was to ensure my daughter survives for the 2 coming years. If I were to seek therapy as such – which we both did concurrently - Simon would definitely be the wrong place.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


From Peter Pam: In this case, a mother went to him in good faith, seeking help for her child. A mother that has been very dedicated to helping her daughter. Apparently, there was no damage done in this case, however, I know from personal experience that trauma can raise it's ugly head at a much later date, so no one knows for sure. We don't know how many other kids are out there that had desperate parents seeking help in good faith, that could have been deeply damaged.
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For most cases, I would say seek therapist help, not deprogramming. It was good for my daughter because she was allowed to put words on what she had perceived, even if those were reptilians/satanists related wording setc. She is quite perceptive and could perceive Simon very well all along. This is not the case for most.

Kavassilas and many old sages as well got it at some point, if we are truly in who we truly are, soul infused, nobody and nothing can do anything to us, we are encompassing all of creation.

[Flash]

From Mike:
Thanks to Flash for that contribution! Nice of her to chime in. And mods, thanks for posting it!

To me, Simon comes off as an imperfect but caring man in a very imperfect situation.

Con men don't invest enormous amounts of their time and energy for free. I don't know if i'd seek him out for therapy, but I think he tells the truth as he understands it.
------------------------

Yes, Mike. Simon is definitely weird in some ways, easy to see right. Caring, yes he is, when he decides to care.
Simon said time and again that he was helping in deprogramming, not doing therapy. But yes, he believed and said he could help my daughter (sometimes I believe helping through the negative is still helping)

If the title of this thread was changed for “as a satanist/reptilian deprogrammer” instead of “counselor”, it would all make sense in its nonsense.

I would add that unless you are in very dire circumstances, go see a therapist when you need therapy, not a deprogrammer of any kind (I certainly have seen as spooky on avalon from other "therapists or healers or deprogrammers".

Some more conclusions:

I am still uncertain as “do the dracos and mantids exist or not”.

But having read many testimonies, and having heard witnesses, I must presume that in some dimensions, they do. In this and their space/time.

If they do, and Simon tells he is a son of a Draco King, he will most probably behave in part as such. However, Simon’s intent is willed to be good.

As for Dracos, they are said to be sometimes cold, caring but not necessarily loving, thinking they are the best and the outmost in evolution, deceitful, etc.

So yes, Simon could at times been perceived that way as well.

Finally, I do think that all of those experiences about ETs, Dracos, greys, and all, including Pleaidians, are mainly in the below dimensions, and that human being can go much further just by letting go of the beliefs systems they hang on to. This is all a world of illusion and we like swimming in it. So at the minimum, lets chose an agreable illusion, a loving one. And have the strenght to say no to the crazyness all around.

We were and are pushed to the extreme to come out of the other end much much much stronger, both of us, daughter and I, and all of us here.

So, no more satanists, no more dracs, no more greys, no more extreme pain in my life.

And I have a weird suspicion that for some of us, meeting with these weird states of beings like reptilians etc was in fact an incarnational probability, due to the reasons we came on this planet to start with, aons ago. In those terms we fulfilled one of our purpose daughter and I. Not for everyone for sure.

Carmody has it, 100%, it must be read times and times again (also read the comments of other members after his post, they worth it)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=1079096&viewfull=1#post1079096

and

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=1079132&viewfull=1#post1079132

[greybeard]

The thread is not about Simon as a whistle blower but about the whistle being blown on his treatment of some who contacted him for help.
The OP I think was balanced and fair--help was give if some what intermittently.
That seems to be a similar situation with others--it starts well then deteriorates.

There does not seem to be much concern for those who feel they were not treated properly by Simon.

Whilst it is another subject I feel that serious help should be given face to face not over Skype. its not a chat.
Its person to person, not virtual reality

Its too easy to disappear--abandon clients when it is an online situation--
Chris

[Flash]

The thread is not about Simon as a whistle blower but about the whistle being blown on his treatment of some who contacted him for help.
The OP I think was balanced and fair--help was give if some what intermittently.
That seems to be a similar situation with others--it starts well then deteriorates.

There does not seem to be much concern for those who feel they were not treated properly by Simon.

Whilst it is another subject I feel that serious help should be given face to face not over Skype. its not a chat.
Its person to person, not virtual reality

Its too easy to disappear--abandon clients when it is an online situation--
Chris

you are basically right, Chris, but not always. THe important thing is to meet at least once. I have seen some people doing great improvements/transformation even at a distance, on the phone, in my own work with some managers working at a great distance from the city. Maybe that my beautiful voice had something to do with it ;)

As for Simon treatment of some people, I believe that it could be going bad. It has not with us on the overall, but at times, it was not nice and supportive. the overall made a difference though and it was free of charge for us.

[greybeard]

I think your posts Flash are balanced, honest and fair--I thank you for them and wish you and your daughter all you could wish your self.

Love Chris

[Bibi]

I wish to thank Alberto e Daniela for starting this thread. When I made my initial post, I thought it was going to be a thread shared with those of like mind. I was apprehensive about posting here because it was my first post on this Forum, and no one knows me, or much about my character. I was also concerned because it's not in my nature to add to negativity if I have a choice in the matter. After due contemplation, I went ahead with posting my experience with the intention of adding some light to the growing concerns about Simon Parke's behavior in his individual Skype sessions with people. My comments were not in any way concerned with his performance as a whistleblower (here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88999-Our-experience-with-Simon-Parkes-as-a-counselor&p=1075960#post1075960))

This comment by onawah really made me sit up and take notice:


Again, that's one session, one recording and there may have been mitigating circumstances.
It may have been someone or ones who was setting up a clever trap for Simon, with Bill as the secondary target and tool for getting lots of public exposure.
And why would a few accounts of bad accounts have more weight than good accounts if all of them can be falsified?
I think I am just going to drop out of this thread. I'm tired of the same old arguments and of repeating myself.
The only thing I can do to offer anything new is to start a new thread with information from people who have had positive experiences in sessions with Simon who are willing to come forward, which I will do in that event.

Onawah, I am delighted that you are tired of the same old arguments. That's kind of hilarious, because it appears that you initiated most of them! I really don't understand your motivation for staying here in the first place. I thought the topic of this thread was for those of us who have had questionable experiences with Simon. That it was intended as a meeting place to come, be safe, feel safe, and also to feel a deep sense of worthiness and empowerment with like-minded others. Instead there have been a lot of spinning wheels with way too many words and 'he said-she said' hard balls being slung across the aisle from both sides. I want to take this opportunity to thank Callista for questioning your comment that accuses people like me of setting a trap for Simon.

To everyone reading this, and to Bill and the Moderators: I appreciate that I am pushing the boundaries of appropriateness; however, I couldn't sit here and take it anymore.

I am moving on now.
~ Bibi

[greybeard]

Which is likly to be more valid?
The statements by several posters and a tape.
Or the thought that perhaps these people are lying/mistaken and have ulterior motive--agenda, to discredit Simon as a counselor on a specific type of situation.

Bibi comes across as being very honest as do the others.

Chris

Ps Im hoping that discernment based on logic/probability wins through.

[ThePythonicCow]

Out of respect and gratitude for those who have taken the difficult step of sharing, some openly and some anonymously, both some serious warnings and some carefully balanced and detailed, experiences with Simon Parkes, I moved 48 more posts made over the last five days, including posts by onawah, Agape, and various replies thereto (including replies by Bill and myself), to the split thread that Hervé created five days ago: Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91607-Our-Experience-With-Simon-Parkes-as-a-contactee--split-from-Our-experience-with-Simon-Parkes-as-a-counselor-thread-).

[Alberto e Daniela]

Interesting news appear today.

We received a Skype message by Simon's former (and probably again) collaborator Fran, who said he wants to apologize and resume the treatment where it was left off.

On Simon's web site (http://simonparkes.wix.com/home), he is publicly apologizing for doing harm to people, with the following message:


A very big thank you to Fran for making me aware of how the Draco I called 'Dad' had been using me to attack people and women in particular. I am really pleased to say that I have expelled him from my life and I'm very sorry for any harm or distress that he has caused others using me.

The portrait of the creature he called "Dad" (a white reptile), has been replaced with this message: "Dad, out of my life forever"

[Limor Wolf]

Interesting news appear today.

We received a Skype message by Simon's former (and probably again) collaborator Fran, who said he wants to apologize and resume the treatment where it was left off.

On Simon's web site (http://simonparkes.wix.com/home), he is publicly apologizing for doing harm to people, with the following message:


A very big thank you to Fran for making me aware of how the Draco I called 'Dad' had been using me to attack people and women in particular. I am really pleased to say that I have expelled him from my life and I'm very sorry for any harm or distress that he has caused others using me.

The portrait of the creature he called "Dad" (a white reptile), has been replaced with this message: "Dad, out of my life forever"

Very interesting, thank you very much, Alberto e Daniela. yet remained to be seen (not that Simon awes anything to anyone in 'proving' this but to himself, this is pretty much a personal thing first and foremost), not an easy move or acknowledgment, but if true than very courageous and deserves much respect. Many blessings ~ Limor

[Biff]

This is all so bizarre. So he admits his abuse, but blames it on an interdimensional being? Sounds a little too convenient. But what do I know. I don't even believe in mantis or dracos. I think it's all funny, except he's been going around telling people their soul parts are this or that. Yea, bizarre to say the least.

This should be something he addresses in his next radio show or interview.

[PurpleLama]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_passing

[Limor Wolf]

This is all so bizarre. So he admits his abuse, but blames it on an interdimensional being? Sounds a little too convenient. But what do I know. I don't even believe in mantis or dracos. I think it's all funny, except he's been going around telling people their soul parts are this or that. Yea, bizarre to say the least.

This should be something he addresses in his next radio show or interview.

Hi Biff, the climate of our world and our humanity is very different than what we were told it is, I think Simon and many others, other researchers, experiencers, whistleblowers, past politicians like Hellyer etc, knows it and communicate it for others to catch up. Communicating it delicately is a key when facing the public or individuals, because, as you say - it's bizzar to our unknowledgble selves that was born on this controlled planet, and quite difficult to grasp if not eperienced or been observed yourself. This is a gradual process, this awarness will not catch at once and those beings do try to stop and delay these revelations (of their subjagating on us) at any cost. Also at the cost of impacting and manipulating people's thoughts, emotions and patterns of behaviour. That is not said to take responsibility off ourselves at all, but on the contrary - to strengthen ourselves when knowing that responsibility can be taken while understanding those patterns while those attempts are taking place. Together in knowledge we are stronger.

The alien agenda(s) (there are quite few..), whatever it is, should not get our consent. None of these have informed us on the real situations and do not empower us one bit, unless it is useful for them. We ought to pay attention to the psychology that is being played. That does not mean staying alone in the galaxy, but chosing our friends carefully is important

Here is an excrept that describes pretty well what's going on and how orchastrations are being carried away (From the 'Alies of humanity' by Marshal vian summers) -


"So, while the visitors seek laison with individuals in positions of power in government and religion, they also seek to establish emissaries throughout the human population. For those sensitive individuals who can not become receptive to and cooperative with the intervention, their skills and abilities will be thwarted and offset. If such an individuals begin to gain insight into the real nature of the intervention , they can become the target of real mental disruption. In addition, amongst the sensitives and the psychics, there will be a search for those few individuals living in the world today who have an inborn and intuitive awarness of the depositories. The search for those individuals is underway.

This is a very difficult and dangerous situation, for the visitors will use human allegience and their human emissaries to carry out their activities in the world. It will not be the visitors who will destroy those who will not and can not cooperate, it will be the visitors' human counterparts, their human representatives, who will carry out such destruction. In this way, the real nature and purpose of the intervention remains hidden and such acts will simply be attributed to human violence and demonstrate the need for the intervention..

in this way, through the eyes of the intervention, those who oppose the intervention and those who can not willingly support it will be identified and will be sorted out amongst the many people who dwell in your world. And the sifting will happen at the level of human interaction.

It is far easier to govern one who believes in your cause and is cooperative than it is one who is simply being subjugated. Humanity has great strength to throw off the shackles of subjugation. And so the intervention will seek to use these inducements to gain as much cooperation and as much belief in their presence and in their cause as is possible. They will employ individuals in positions of power, those who have great sensitivites and psychic abilities and those who are zealous representatives to foster and generate such cooperation."


We better refuse those subjagations anymore. Freedom is freedom, there is no half of it :)

A good suggestion I was once fortunate to recieve - "When you are being offered two choices take the third one, or create a fourth and a fifth.." but when we are children we do not and can not know about it. Simon Parkes had to chose one of a two, where the third was not an option viable for him, but it may be the only option for freedom, for him personally and for us collectively - that is the third.

All is a learning and re-membering to us all, but the way to seprate us will not work anymore. We need each other and each other's capabilities and understandings. Divide and rule won't work anymore while we are beginning to understand and grasp those dimensions and their power on us (via our human opperssed 'illiteracy' on the dimensional on-going), untill this grasp will diminish

Many good blessings ~

Limor

[Biff]

Hi Limor. Trust me I believe in aliens out there, I'm just one of those more skeptical when it comes to believing every kooky contactee. I've seen no proof from any of them, and I've researched them all including Simon and Corey Goode, two of the latest contactees to come around. They are a special kind of 'crazy' in my book, contactees are.

If anything I lean toward the government psyop angle where real contactees like Leah Hailey (http://ufotrail.blogspot.com/2011/09/leah-haley-on-alien-abduction-it-doesnt_17.html?m=1) suggest abductions and contacts are screen memories.

Thanks for your response. I know it all can be complicated and confusing.

We're taking about a supposed deprogrammer admitting to abuse and blaming it on a demon, pretty much. How long was Simon under the influence of his daddy draco?

[Innocent Warrior]

It is natural for anyone who hasn't experienced contact from ET/EB to doubt the reality of contact with them but please don't be too quick to label contactees as crazy, that's hurtful and dismissive.

My son was just a toddler when he told me about his trips with the "ghosts to their corners" at night. He told me they would come and pick him up in a hotwheels car and take him. He told me that one night when I woke him up after I found him on the floor again, when I went to check on him.

He also had an "imaginary friend" up until he was around 11 years old. I suspected he was a spirit at first because my son's interactions with him were too real to believe he was just imagining him and there was other paranormal activity about my son. I didn't want to frighten him by suggesting he was real, just in case my son didn't realise he was, but one day it spooked me so I asked my son why he called Mr Nobody an imaginary friend. My son said because nobody else could see him, and he went on to confirm he knew he was real. My son seemed to love him and Mr Nobody made him happy so it didn't bother me until I became concerned that he was messing with my son and I. He was calling our names out and trying to scare me, things like that. It wasn't until my son willed him out of his life, after I brought my concerns up with him, that my son confessed to getting into trouble because of things Mr Nobody told him to do. For example, the time my son had thrown his Buzz Lightyear toy and dented the car because he thought it would fly - Mr Nobody had told him Buzz would fly if he threw him at the car. My son used to cover for Mr Nobody, he can't remember why, he can't remember if he told him not to tell me or if he just chose not to tell me.

People say there's no evidence, but what evidence would satisfy? I have photographic evidence of a large violet orb like energy who was with my son for hours on his 11th brirthday but unless you took those photos yourself, how can you know they haven't been photoshopped?

Like I said, my son was only a little boy, he's not crazy now and he wasn't crazy then. I get that it sounds and seems crazy, but it's real. I can't see how military operations can explain all I've seen with my son, if it is then they are working in extra dimensions as well, but even then it doesn't explain everything.

With that said, I wish to implore Simon to take some time to take care of himself first before he continues with helping others. I've wondered how much Mr Nobody would have affected and influenced my son had he still been in his life today. Be careful, Simon, Mr Nodoby still watches, it's just that it's from a distance now.

[togetherasone]

Hey all. I am no expert on the matter, but just wanted to throw my 5 cents worth (of positive energy :sun:), but what if everything Simon has to offer or share is in his mind the absolute truth and knowledge he has been given/taught/learnt/experienced etc in his life. So whether programmed, mind controlled or nothing at all, he is under the idea he is giving out all he knows, be it truth, half truth or completely false.
Just saying that he might have the best intentions in using and sharing what he believes to be true.

Personally, I enjoy reading/watching etc Simon's updates. Just like watching a David Icke; Graham Hancock or John Lear release (no finger pointing here, just chose 3 random people!), just to name a few, I am the one that will choose what information to take from whom and do my own extensive research on the information I feel is truthful and helpful. If there is information shared that I feel is not trustworthy or believable, I further research and ask about these matters to confirm my feelings. Generally I find my initial inner intuition was correct from the start.

Thanks to all for all your input though. Always good to hear personal experiences and thoughts!

Stay positive all! Our collective consciousness needs to stay strong! :highfive:

[Innocent Warrior]

I just wanted to add that I shared my information to show that some of what Simon claims doesn't seem so crazy to some and why, but it still doesn't excuse causing others harm. We still have to take responsibility for our actions, whether our actions were influenced by others or not. For a start, it seems like Simon could do with developing his self awareness a lot more. The bottom line is that no matter what the circumstances are, and only Simon can know the truth of his circumstances for certain, the responsibility falls squarely on our own shoulders.

[AutumnW]

What a steaming pile. Omg! His Draco dad made him do it! LOL. And I give plenty of credence to abductions, have been interfered with in many different ways myself.

But Simon doesn't pass the sniff test. He's a conman currying fear and encouraging people to fixate on experiences they should be distracting themselves from if at all possible.

Possession experiences straddle the objective and subjective realms. They are mentally state specific. One MUST wrench their minds away from them and become absorbed in mundane matters. In other words, try not to think about it. It doesn't just feed on your emotions. It feeds on your thoughts...angled towards 'it'.

[greybeard]

The bottom line is that it certainly seems to me that the people who shared their experiences here were being truthful and are owed an apology by those who implied they were not.

It takes courage to share and this has great value for those who have experienced similar

This was basically a conspiracy theory forum but best to be open minded till the truth emerges and it has.
Simon has been big enough to apologize all credit to him

Chris

[Alberto e Daniela]

In order to consider his recent change as meaningful, some clarifications are now necessary from Simon

1) which techniques his "Dad" has used onto the subjects that Simon was counseling
2) which consequences this has left inside of them
3) what was the purpose of the strange conduct he was having (starting contacts without finishing)
4) why he is crediting Fran for showing him the truth of his "Dad" 's manipulations, and not others (we know whom) who had exposed his bad activities (nightly "visits" to women he had made contact with) in clear terms on the Connecting Consciousness fb group months ago
5) what level of self awareness he believes he has, which lets him act under a massive alien control, while claiming to be able to help others get rid of that same problem
6) where was all his star family, mantids, when he needed to know about this problem: why did they let him make so much damage, and a fool of himself for years?

any serious Interview with Simon from now on, with Jay Pee, with Kerry, or whoever, must include these questions at the very beginning, otherwise this (supposed, for now) event will only turn into advertising to his advantage

[greybeard]

Oh yes there is such a thing as "Damage limitation"

The lower astral feeds on fear and promotes it.
It is possible to give information even warnings without promoting fear.

I believe there are aliens but I think they are given a bad press---the majority are possibly "good guys"

The thread is really about what Simon did during counseling sessions and any long tern affects.
It keeps coming back to Simon being the main topic--not those who were counseled--though obviously he was there too.

Chris

[greybeard]

The video on this link about abuse at a young age may be helpful.
Its also about recovery.
Chris

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91709-Positive-Experiences-with-Simon-Parkes-as-a-Deprogrammer&p=1079905&viewfull=1#post1079905

[AutumnW]

Hi Greybeard,

I didn't mean to disparage anybody who is having these experiences. I KNOW they are real. I should have qualified my remarks though. Fof those going through a very similar experience to what my friends and I went through, the best thing to do is give up any interest and focus on it. That worked like a charm...for us.

As far as Simon goes, his post abuse 'apology,' seems more like a blistering self indictment. First of all admitting to being abusive to women, in particular, when cornered, is just that -- pleading guilty. But with the explanation that he is essentially demon possessed so not responsible for his actions. I don't buy it.

People who are possessed, hear voices, have limited self will, do not have his demeanor. He seems to have a very big ego. These experiences should have an ego-dystonic effect on the one effected. He seems to be more like a trickster, mythological speaking. Big ego and laugh out loud explanations for horrendous behavior.

[Pam]

The bottom line is that it certainly seems to me that the people who shared their experiences here were being truthful and are owed an apology by those who implied they were not.

It takes courage to share and this has great value for those who have experienced similar

This was basically a conspiracy theory forum but best to be open minded till the truth emerges and it has.
Simon has been big enough to apologize all credit to him

Chris



A very big thank you to Fran for making me aware of how the Draco I called 'Dad' had been using me to attack people and women in particular. I am really pleased to say that I have expelled him from my life and I'm very sorry for any harm or distress that he has caused others using me. Quote from his website.



greybeard, I always appreciate your wisdom, but in this case I will agree to disagree. I feel his apology is absurd and patently dismissive. Having been a psychiatric nurse for part of my career, if I were to dismiss my inappropriate behavior with clients by blaming it on my parent, then flippantly state it's all better now because my parent is now expelled from my life is just plain childish.

In your counseling work have you ever had grown adults that are still blaming their problems and behaviors on their parents? What do you do for such an individual? While understanding that we have all been influenced by our parents, someone that continues to blame a parent into adulthood and avoids taking any personal responsibility for their actions is someone that has little to no self realization in my book. That is someone that has absolutely no business counseling others.

I do not doubt in any way that people have had all kinds of experience of a paranormal nature. I do understand their desperation in seeking someone to guide them, but after seeing that apology and his behavior with children , I feel more then ever that he is a big, huge, monstrous case of BUYER BEWARE!!!!!!! And I would put a million red flags after that if I could. I do not want to see any more of you exploited.

Please consider what I wrote here. No mature , integrated adult is going to blame his behavior on his parent, and then have the audacity to claim it's all good because he has ejected him out of his life with the snap of his fingers. If it was that simple why would anyone need a therapist to rid them of these guys???? Things just don't add up here guys.

[greybeard]

The bottom line is that it certainly seems to me that the people who shared their experiences here were being truthful and are owed an apology by those who implied they were not.

It takes courage to share and this has great value for those who have experienced similar

This was basically a conspiracy theory forum but best to be open minded till the truth emerges and it has.
Simon has been big enough to apologize all credit to him

Chris



A very big thank you to Fran for making me aware of how the Draco I called 'Dad' had been using me to attack people and women in particular. I am really pleased to say that I have expelled him from my life and I'm very sorry for any harm or distress that he has caused others using me. Quote from his website.



greybeard, I always appreciate your wisdom, but in this case I will agree to disagree. I feel his apology is absurd and patently dismissive. Having been a psychiatric nurse for part of my career, if I were to dismiss my inappropriate behavior with clients by blaming it on my parent, then flippantly state it's all better now because my parent is now expelled from my life is just plain childish.

In your counseling work have you ever had grown adults that are still blaming their problems and behaviors on their parents? What do you do for such an individual? While understanding that we have all been influenced by our parents, someone that continues to blame a parent into adulthood and avoids taking any personal responsibility for their actions is someone that has little to no self realization in my book. That is someone that has absolutely no business counseling others.

I do not doubt in any way that people have had all kinds of experience of a paranormal nature. I do understand their desperation in seeking someone to guide them, but after seeing that apology and his behavior with children , I feel more then ever that he is a big, huge, monstrous case of BUYER BEWARE!!!!!!! And I would put a million red flags after that if I could. I do not want to see any more of you exploited.

Please consider what I wrote here. No mature , integrated adult is going to blame his behavior on his parent, and then have the audacity to claim it's all good because he has ejected him out of his life with the snap of his fingers. If it was that simple why would anyone need a therapist to rid them of these guys???? Things just don't add up here guys.

Yes peterpam.
I agree whole heartedly with your comments and evaluation.
On reflection I was too quick to accept the apology at face value --I had not read all of it--I should have,

I got into trouble a long, long while ago for saying Simon was speaking rubbish--I did not use that word.
Even had a mod visit me because some one had complained about this. I had to apologize for miss calling a member (Simon)
I was part joking but it miss fired..
Well seems I might have been right in the first place.
I might be a little too quick to see both sides of a story.

We are as we are/

Chris

Ps The Teal Swan video I posted on the split thread Peterpam is well worth a look at from a psychiatric point of view--she is still working through issues ---boy is she very clever with her answers and point of view---she made me think--not saying I agree with everything she says but at one level it really makes sense.

c

[Kari Lynn]

I agree in part with both Greybeard, and Peterpam. In that the people who wrote their experiences took courage, and they should be separated from Simon's previous deeds. However I agree with how Peterpam feels about taking responsibility for their own actions. Trust is something earned, and after such deeds Simon did to people, he destroyed that trust with many people, and even if forgiven of such, it would take a long time to earn that trust back, if ever. This is where personal discernment would come in

[Bill Ryan]

But with the explanation that he is essentially demon possessed so not responsible for his actions. I don't buy it.



Well, these demons sure get around.

A few days ago I got a PM from a member about this affair, who did not want to post openly, concerned she would be identified. But she told me I could share any part of her PM publicly if I felt it helpful or appropriate. Well, now it is.

This member had consulted Simon indirectly about the allegations from abused or disappointed counseling clients, and was told that
He [Simon] is fully aware of what is going on at the Project Avalon Forum and is sad to know that the forum is experiencing demonic attacks. Simon's response was undated in the PM I received, but it was something like 7-10 days ago. As the saying goes, a week is a long time in politics.

[3(C)+me]

But with the explanation that he is essentially demon possessed so not responsible for his actions. I don't buy it.




Well, these demons sure get around.

A few days ago I got a PM from a member about this affair, who did not want to post openly, concerned she would be identified. But she told me I could share any part of her PM publicly if I felt it helpful or appropriate. Well, now it is.

This member had consulted Simon indirectly about the allegations from abused or disappointed counseling clients, and was told that
He [Simon] is fully aware of what is going on at the Project Avalon Forum and is sad to know that the forum is experiencing demonic attacks. Simon's response was undated in the PM I received, but it was something like 7-10 days ago. As the saying goes, a week is a long time in politics.

Let's see, like calling the kettle black.

[greybeard]

But with the explanation that he is essentially demon possessed so not responsible for his actions. I don't buy it.



Well, these demons sure get around.

A few days ago I got a PM from a member about this affair, who did not want to post openly, concerned she would be identified. But she told me I could share any part of her PM publicly if I felt it helpful or appropriate. Well, now it is.

This member had consulted Simon indirectly about the allegations from abused or disappointed counseling clients, and was told that
He [Simon] is fully aware of what is going on at the Project Avalon Forum and is sad to know that the forum is experiencing demonic attacks. Simon's response was undated in the PM I received, but it was something like 7-10 days ago. As the saying goes, a week is a long time in politics.

Demonic attack!!!
Well well---assumptions are dangerous but what does Simon really mean by that?
Avalon is not really a place, so as such demonic attack is not possible, except in the mind that believes that it is.
The server can be attacked--individuals can be--according to their belief that this is possible.

Is it that he sees this thread as inspired by demons to attack him?

Simon would not be on my recommended list of counselors to visit.
He seems to have issues that need seen to before he endeavors to help others.
I hope that he sees the need to get professional help.

Chris

[Bill Ryan]

.
This is noted for the public record. The mods just received an e-mail from a non-member (name given), who wanted to simply share the following. This is the entirety of her message.





Simon Parkes was responsible for me taking very bad advice two years ago and then being in trouble with UK Social Services. They are still around.
I am now reading about others who suffered badly after taking his advice.

[giovonni]

Will share this here ...

From James Gilliland's Eceti News - / 7/9/2016


Simon Parks

"We have hesitated in going public with this but now that it is already out it only confirms what we have been saying all along. DISCERNMENT and developing ones own inner sensitivity is foremost and paramount in the field of ufology. On many occasions people are coming to us who have been involved with Simon and other top people in the field only to have implants and reptillian or grey cords connected to them. Without mentioning names there are people who keep professing there are no negative ETs yet at the same time they are arm in arm with Rockafellers, Clintons and other people with a long history of self service and Draconian rule. There are tools for discernment. One does their message empower you as an individual or focus on them? Does it empower you to make your own personal contact, your own personal God/Creator/Spirit connection? Is their focus on material wealth and money? Where does the money actually go. How do they behave off the podium? Before donating any money do your research, ask why their staff keep leaving, why all the secrecy, binding contracts whereas you cannot talk about anything concerning the organization. Trust your feelings, see who is finacing these people and you will know who they serve. Sad to say so many are consciously and unconsciously serving a force that does not want the awakening and healing process to go forward. They are what is termed planned opposition. There to control the information, keep it in the past, far away and stuck in proving ETs exist verses who are they and why are they here. Better yet who are the benevolent ones and how can they assist humanity. There are some researchers who are for real and it is sad all the resources and donations are diverted due to name recognition verses service to the awakening and healing process. Again before donating to any of these groups do your own research, meditate on it, go and feel what kind of energies are present at their events. Trust that inner voices that says there is something not quite right here."

Referenced to: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88999-Our-experience-with-Simon-Parkes-as-a-counselor&p=1079793&viewfull=1#post1079793

Please note the above message comes via the ECETI Newsletter (http://www.eceti.org/Eceti.Newsletter.html).

[Bibi]

Hi everyone. I just received a bulletin from James Gilliland (Here (https://madmimi.com/p/0ed348?fe=1&pact=2267522-132769267-5294840575-a1071cc8e8037741128e235717d90b999761d553))

An excerpt: "We have hesitated in going public with this but now that it is already out it only confirms what we have been saying all along. DISCERNMENT and developing one's own inner sensitivity is foremost and paramount in the field of ufology. On many occasions, people are coming to us who have been involved with Simon and other top people in the field only to have implants and reptilian or grey cords connected to them."

~ Bibi

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Oops! I didn't see the previous post before posting. My apologies!

[Chester]

Where did "the statement" go? It seems the one that was on Simon's site has been quickly removed.

EDIT: I found the post here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88999-Our-experience-with-Simon-Parkes-as-a-counselor&p=1079793&viewfull=1#post1079793)

Yet I can no longer find the statement on Simon's website.

[greybeard]

Seems that there is overwhelming evidence that Simon is not to be trusted as an "advisor"
The word discernment was used in the James Gilliland news letter and cording mentioned.

One would hope that before we put any new "hero" on a pedestal on Avalon we use discernment.

Its not easy to admit we got it wrong when we hero worship or admire others.
We are all equal.
Chris

[Bill Ryan]

Where did "the statement" go? It seems the one that was on Simon's site has been quickly removed.

EDIT: I found the post here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88999-Our-experience-with-Simon-Parkes-as-a-counselor&p=1079793&viewfull=1#post1079793)

Yet I can no longer find the statement on Simon's website.

Note to self: Always take a screenshot of these things. (Someone, somewhere, will have it, even if they still have the page open in their browser.)

So far, I'm unable to find it archived or cached anywhere. It was an important statement he made. And yes, it's been deleted, or retracted.

I wonder why one would remove an apology from one's website.

I can confirm that it did indeed say exactly this:
A very big thank you to Fran for making me aware of how the Draco I called 'Dad' had been using me to attack people and women in particular. I am really pleased to say that I have expelled him from my life and I'm very sorry for any harm or distress that he has caused others using me.

[Bill Ryan]

So far, I'm unable to find it archived or cached anywhere.

But — bright idea — here's how someone reading this can find it, if they use the Safari browser on a Mac, and had used it a few days ago to view the page in its unedited form.


First, do NOT reload the page.
Go straight to users/[your Mac username]/ Library/ Caches/ com.Apple.Safari/ Webpage Previews. (This will be there if you dig down in the directories, but isn't regularly found or visible in a 'normal' search.)
The old page will show up in that folder as quite a high quality screenshot. Safari does this automatically.

[Baby Steps]

Seems that there is overwhelming evidence that Simon is not to be trusted as an "advisor"
The word discernment was used in the James Gilliland news letter and cording mentioned.

One would hope that before we put any new "hero" on a pedestal on Avalon we use discernment.

Its not easy to admit we got it wrong when we hero worship or admire others.
We are all equal.
Chris

People who feel affected or 'corded' can explore their belief systems & information to find solutions, much of it is to access uplifting & loving stuff-we all have our tools. If people feel they have 'something' that they wish to extract, Shamanic techniques are effective. Be cautious-check the people you find who offer such services...

[Innocent Warrior]

FYI, bit of a long shot but this may be helpful in case there's no luck with screenshots and computer caches -

I checked Google's cache, Google last crawled Simon's webpage on July 5th, before he posted the notice, that can be viewed here (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://simonparkes.wix.com/home).

I don't know how often Google crawls webpages and I don't know how quickly each cache is made available but it may be worth checking back with the Google cache to see what version is in their next cache. If Google crawled it between the 5th and when the notice was removed, the version with the notice should come up in Google's cache when it's available.

Instructions on how to retrieve a Google cache here (http://www.macworld.com/article/2097901/how-to-revisit-old-website-data.html) (on a Mac page but should work for anyone).