5,000yr old cave painting of alien craft in Hampi, India.

[Billy]

I would like to share a recent adventure I had a few days ago here in India. Not long after I arrived a new friend I met from England left where we met in Gokarna to head to Hampi, a very ancient city with amazing ruins. My intention was to also maybe travel to Hampi as when I was there 13yrs ago I became very sick as soon as I arrived, I could not go out and saw nothing of the place. I left very weak and disappointed.
A few days after my friend arrived he sent me a picture that he thought I would be interested in because of the chats we had in Gokarna. He said a local farmer had flagged him down while traveling through a single track country road in the middle of nowhere. The farmer took him up a trail to see some cave paintings. This is what he sent me. Only one photo but after what I saw I decided I was definitely going to visit.

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A close up

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It was another week before I was ready to head to Hampi, I arrived at 6am on a sleeper bus and the same day I hired a small bike to try and find the caves. No one I asked in Hampi had heard of them but I found one Indian blog that gave some directions.
http://karnatakatravel.blogspot.in/2012/09/prehistoric-paintings-at-onake-kindi.html?m=1

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No sign posts, stopping to ask locals who all pointed in different directions. After many hours I stopped to ask one man sitting at the roadside with white bulls next to him. And hey presto, this was the farmer who had stopped my friend. He was also the guardian of the cave paintings, employed by the private owner of the land to show visitors around. :clapping:

He took me up a track in a gully with huge boulders on each side, leading to metal gate which he unlocked, we headed further up the track into a clearing which had a natural horseshoe boulders protecting the whole area.

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He then took me around to see the cave paintings, this place is awesome and I have many more pictures to share.

I am working from my tablet, so I am going to attempt to post this thread before I proceed any further.

[Billy]

More pictures.
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The heart shaped head of a cobra. And the tail that goes deep into the cave.

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[Becky]

Thanks for sharing your adventures and this fantastic art, Billy :-) Looking forward to seeing more pictures.

[Billy]

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There is a female lying down inside the craft.

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[take]

This could be anything. Why call it a craft?

[Foxie Loxie]

WOW! For those of us who can no longer travel...this is AWESOME!! Thanks so much!

[Billy]

Not very clear in the photo but there is a being on the right much taller than the females that look like they are running away from the being.

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One of the caves.
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[Billy]

This could be anything. Why call it a craft?

Because It looks like a craft to me and i choose to call it a craft. :sun:
The guardian who showed me around called it a vimana.
https://www.google.co.in/search?q=vemana&client=tablet-android-lenovo&prmd=inv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiWvejBxpPLAhWICY4KHbUADNEQ_AUIBygB#tbm=isch&q=vedic+flying+machines

Just like the ones painted on this ancient mural in a palace in Pune, India.

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[take]

Yes, I understand that. But none of that makes it a craft or proves it to be one, and that's why the word 'craft' seems misleading and out of place here. Great pictures nevertheless.

[conk]

This could be anything. Why call it a craft?When taken with a much wider body of knowledge, information, and in context of curiosity it certainly looks like a craft. Things are most often as they appear. I'd wager that conspiracy nuts are on target vastly more often than skeptics, whatever the subject. All said with utmost respect for your opinion. ;)

[greybeard]

This could be anything. Why call it a craft?When taken with a much wider body of knowledge, information, and in context of curiosity it certainly looks like a craft. Things are most often as they appear. I'd wager that conspiracy nuts are on target vastly more often than skeptics, whatever the subject. All said with utmost respect for your opinion. ;)

Yes conk
I have seen but cant remember where pictures of similar craft in ancient Indian text giving full description of the interior and various levels/rooms within the craft---got the impression that the flying machines were not alien.
They were called Vimanas

found link
Chris

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vimanas/esp_vimanas_9.htm

[lunaflare]

Thanks for sharing. Seems like a wonderful experience for you.
How do you know these cave paintings are 5000 years old? Just curious. Indigenous people in Australia can be traced back 45,000 years. In some parts (south in Victoria), I have heard 90,000 years.
Did the Indian who showed you these paintings speak English?
Have the works been investigated by archaeologists etc.? Or is this normal to see in parts of India...
Many sites with these types of "suggestive" etchings are destroyed by the military (unfortunately).

[Billy]

Thanks for sharing. Seems like a wonderful experience for you.
How do you know these cave paintings are 5000 years old? Just curious. Indigenous people in Australia can be traced back 45,000 years. In some parts (south in Victoria), I have heard 90,000 years.
Did the Indian who showed you these paintings speak English?
Have the works been investigated by archaeologists etc.? Or is this normal to see in parts of India...
Many sites with these types of "suggestive" etchings are destroyed by the military (unfortunately).

The guardian of the caves spoke a little English and along with hand gestures we were able to communicate. I noticed there was orange flags high up in the rocks surrounding the enclosure. I asked him what they were. He said they were put there to guide a helicopter in that brought the investigation team in. It was this team that dated the paintings to 5.000 yrs. They said the paint was made from a red clay.
The land is not owned by the government, but owned privately by the land owner who lives in Mumbai. I asked if I could maybe have his phone number, but this was not possible. I hoped to ask questions and maybe see a copy of the investigation report.
I agree with what you say and my impression's was that they were much older than 5.000 yrs. Firstly in my opinion, India was very civilised 5.000 yrs even 10.000 yrs ago.
Although civilised people living in cities would have lived side by side with tribal farmers in remote areas. But what do I know. :noidea:

I am going out on a limb here. My own feelings was this was a painted documentation of an abduction experience the villagers had witnessed. The female in the craft lying down is being examined by a smaller being. The two beings in the rectangular doorway is I believe what they saw when the craft doors opened. The 4 females seem to be running away from a taller being. The one closest to the being is very faint. He seems to have a hold of her. The pictures do not do what I saw justice.

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I returned two days after with some friends I met. They had better equipment for photo's than my tablet. They said they will email all their photo's to me at some point.

I contacted a friend Marton Molnar-gob i have on Facebook. He and Wayne Herschel are good friends and sometimes work together. If anyone knew of these paintings it would be them. Marton first heard of it in 2011 and posted a piece on FB. He was excited I was actually going to visit the site.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1517897526630&set=a.1384504911898.46935.1810285064&type=3&theater

His diagram.

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[Sunny-side-up]

Great find and post Billy:thumbsup:

India has much to show us/has shown us much :sun:

[Ewan]

I'd venture it is a lot older than 5,000 years. Nice thread.

[Bill Ryan]

I'd venture it is a lot older than 5,000 years. Nice thread.

Yes... these things are very hard to date (no organic material to carbon-date), and archaeologists often just guess. I've personally seen similar paintings (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsodilo) in the Kalahari Desert (but none that look like craft!) that are estimated to be about 25,000 years old. That's quite a difference.

[Billy]

A little update. After some intense research today, I managed to find out which organisation carried out the survey on the cave paintings and were responsible for sending the team of archaeologists to the site.
They are the Archaeological survey of India. ASI. The deputy superintendent, a Mr. T.M. Keshava was quoted in the Bangalore express in 2010 on his findings. I have not managed to find the article or a contact for Mr. Keshava but I emailed the Director General of ASI, Dr.Rakesh Tewari and requested a copy of the report. I await a reply.

I will share more pictures.
This one is not a painting but was etched out of the stone on the floor entrance of one of the caves.
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This one was very high up above the caves and must have been a challenge for the artist to reach.

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close ups of the larger being next to the smaller females.

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[Billy]

While searching for more info on the above cave paintings I came across an article in The Times of India news paper from 2014 on the same theme but different caves. Thought I would share as it is all connected. :bigsmile:


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/10000-year-old-rock-paintings-depicting-aliens-and-UFOs-found-in-Chhattisgarh/articleshow/38435091.cms
10,000-year-old rock paintings depicting aliens and UFOs found in Chhattisgarh.ttisgarh state department of archaeology and culture plans to seek help from Nasa and Isro for research on 10,000-year-old rock paintings depicting aliens and UFOs in Charama region in Kanker district in tribal Bastar region.
According to archaeologist JR Bhagat, these paintings have depicted aliens like those shown in Hollywood and Bollywood flicks. Located about 130km from Raipur, the caves come under village Chandeli and Gotitola.
"The findings suggest that humans in prehistoric times may have seen or imagined beings from other planets which still create curiosity among people and researchers. Extensive research is needed for further findings. Chhattisgarh presently doesn't have any such expert who could give clarity on the subject," Bhagat told TOI.


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Read more here.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/10000-year-old-rock-paintings-depicting-aliens-and-UFOs-found-in-Chhattisgarh/articleshow/38435091.cms

[Pam]

A little update. After some intense research today, I managed to find out which organisation carried out the survey on the cave paintings and were responsible for sending the team of archaeologists to the site.
They are the Archaeological survey of India. ASI. The deputy superintendent, a Mr. T.M. Keshava was quoted in the Bangalore express in 2010 on his findings. I have not managed to find the article or a contact for Mr. Keshava but I emailed the Director General of ASI, Dr.Rakesh Tewari and requested a copy of the report. I await a reply.

I will share more pictures.
This one is not a painting but was etched out of the stone on the floor entrance of one of the caves.
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This one was very high up above the caves and must have been a challenge for the artist to reach.

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close ups of the larger being next to the smaller females.

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Billy, thanks for the great photos. I am wondering if you might be able to explain about the low er painting. For each of the larger characters, it seems they are attached by a chord that's shape is repeated twice. They are the most pronounced lines in the paintings. Can you tell what you think they are, since you actually saw the paintings?

[Atlas]

This could be anything [...]
Possibly a map...?

"Deciphering the exact meaning of the paintings was not easy for the experts. Reaching the site itself was an arduous task as it was surrounded by a hillock overlooking a valley and accessible only through a narrow passage.

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repository/getimage.dll?path=BGMIR/2010/12/28/9/Img/Pc0090400.jpg

Researchers found many similarities with the modern-day maps. The triangular marks used to represent hillocks on these maps are similar to the symbols used by surveyors.

Further, the narrow passage has been compared to the figure of a human being, while the ladder-like symbol indicates a pathway. It took Keshava and his team almost a year to confirm the findings. "

Source: http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repository/getFiles.asp?Style=OliveXLib:LowLevelEntityToPrint_MIRRORNEW&Type=text/html&Locale=english-skin-custom&Path=BGMIR/2010/12/28&ID=Ar00900

[Billy]

Billy, thanks for the great photos. I am wondering if you might be able to explain about the low er painting. For each of the larger characters, it seems they are attached by a chord that's shape is repeated twice. They are the most pronounced lines in the paintings. Can you tell what you think they are, since you actually saw the paintings?

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Thanks for taking a closer look at this painting, I think this is one of the most important and informative paintings, sorry about the quality but one friend has now been in touch, he has read this thread and says he is going to send some higher resolution photos of this scene. My first impression when I was there was this being was holding some sort of net. It also seemed to hold some sort of device in it's hand. The whole bottom scene, the straight lines and all, felt like a cage of some sorts.

While we wait for better quality photos. What is anyone's first impression of the taller being ?

[Billy]

This could be anything [...]
Possibly a map...?

"Deciphering the exact meaning of the paintings was not easy for the experts. Reaching the site itself was an arduous task as it was surrounded by a hillock overlooking a valley and accessible only through a narrow passage.

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repository/getimage.dll?path=BGMIR/2010/12/28/9/Img/Pc0090400.jpg

Researchers found many similarities with the modern-day maps. The triangular marks used to represent hillocks on these maps are similar to the symbols used by surveyors.

Further, the narrow passage has been compared to the figure of a human being, while the ladder-like symbol indicates a pathway. It took Keshava and his team almost a year to confirm the findings. "

Source: http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repository/getFiles.asp?Style=OliveXLib:LowLevelEntityToPrint_MIRRORNEW&Type=text/html&Locale=english-skin-custom&Path=BGMIR/2010/12/28&ID=Ar00900

You are a star Atlas. This is what I was searching for. Thank you. :thumbsup:

Does it look like a map to you.? What does it look like to you Atlas ? Maybe a human being actually is a human being. Maybe a ladder actually is a ladder. And I do not think the folks back then were aware of today's surveyors mapping symbols. all the paintings have to be taken into context together. I think there is a whole story here when they are brought together.

EDIT: because of your research skills Atlas, I have now found Mr. Keshava's contact details. The head office of ASI is in Delhi and I was searching there. Bangalore was the missing link :clapping:
http://www.academia.edu/8512403/Archaeological_Survey_of_India_ASI
Top of the list.
I have emailed him and await a reply.

[Billy]

Billy, thanks for the great photos. I am wondering if you might be able to explain about the low er painting. For each of the larger characters, it seems they are attached by a chord that's shape is repeated twice. They are the most pronounced lines in the paintings. Can you tell what you think they are, since you actually saw the paintings?

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Thanks for taking a closer look at this painting, I think this is one of the most important and informative paintings, sorry about the quality but one friend has now been in touch, he has read this thread and says he is going to send some higher resolution photos of this scene. My first impression when I was there was this being was holding some sort of net. It also seemed to hold some sort of device in it's hand. The whole bottom scene, the straight lines and all, felt like a cage of some sorts.

While we wait for better quality photos. What is anyone's first impression of the taller being ?

I am going to post this picture again in different resolutions and hope for some feedback from members, if anyone has the skills to play around to try and highlight any details of this picture. or can create some graphics as Marton showed in post 13, i would very much appreciate your help.

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What kind of being do you see.?

[RunningDeer]

What kind of being do you see.?
I am going to post this picture again in different resolutions and hope for some feedback from members,...
Hi Billy,

Here are yours blown up with a filter added for easier viewing. I didn’t catch any wow-wow’s like in Marton’s photos.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/1_zpsphbwlcyc.jpg

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/2_zpsdhdalztw.jpg

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/3_zpsvqmuyl9g.jpg

Paula ♡

[Billy]

A little update. After some intense research today, I managed to find out which organisation carried out the survey on the cave paintings and were responsible for sending the team of archaeologists to the site.
They are the Archaeological survey of India. ASI. The deputy superintendent, a Mr. T.M. Keshava was quoted in the Bangalore express in 2010 on his findings. I have not managed to find the article or a contact for Mr. Keshava but I emailed the Director General of ASI, Dr.Rakesh Tewari and requested a copy of the report. I await a reply.

Dr.Rakesh Tewari has very kindly replied to my email, but only to give contact details for Mr. Keshava in Bangalore, which I now already have thanks to Atlas. I still await a response from Mr. Keshava from the email I sent him.

[Pam]

I will be really interested in hearing what Mr. Kasheva has to say about the paintings. Please keep us posted. Thanks for the enlarged and contrasted paintings, Paula.

[Billy]

After sending two emails, So far no reply from Me. Keshava. But I have sent another email to
Director,
Culture & Archaeology
MGM Museum, Civil Lines,
Near Raj Bhawan, Raipur (C.G.)
Who surveyed the cave painting mentioned in this post. And have asked them if they would be willing to do an independent survey on the site.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89076-5-000yr-old-cave-painting-of-alien-craft-in-India.&p=1049673&viewfull=1#post1049673


My stay in Tiruvanamalai in Tamil Nadu has come to an end and I leave today to slowly head back to Mumbai for my flight home in 8 days time. I have decided to return to Hampi for a few days as it is more or less on the way to Mumbai and revisit the cave paintings. I start my 21hr train journey this evening. If anyone has any questions regarding the photos I have already posted, please ask away. I will let you know when I am ready to visit the site again. :waving:

[Billy]

I see there are no questions. I said i would inform you. I will be revisiting the cave paintings in a few hours time. :bigsmile:

[Bill Ryan]

I see there is no questions. I said i would inform you. will be revisiting the cave paintings in a few hours time. :bigsmile:

Well, one question that still seems obvious is the dating anomaly... society in India was pretty advanced 3,000 years BC (5,000 years ago). They certainly weren't cavemen!

But you already responded to that... and yes, I'd absolutely agree that they look and feel far older. 15,000 years old, or maybe much more, might seem more like it.

If this doesn't seem too wild... one option is to ask the paintings how old they are. They'll be imbued with the essence of the artists. That transcends time.

There'll still be an element of their life force in there they may answer you. It'd be interesting to ask the question in a quiet moment, and then see if you get a reply.

:star:

[Billy]

I see there is no questions. I said i would inform you. will be revisiting the cave paintings in a few hours time. :bigsmile:

Well, one question that still seems obvious is the dating anomaly... society in India was pretty advanced 3,000 years BC (5,000 years ago). They certainly weren't cavemen!

But you already responded to that... and yes, I'd absolutely agree that they look and feel far older. 15,000 years old, or maybe much more, might seem more like it.

If this doesn't seem too wild... one option is to ask the paintings how old they are. They'll be imbued with the essence of the artists. That transcends time.

There'll still be an element of their life force in there they may answer you. It'd be interesting to ask the question in a quiet moment, and then see if you get a reply.

:star:

A Great idea Bill. I did not catch your message until I returned but I shot out to the small market and bought a dowsing crystal, I have tested it with many questioned and it was 100% correct on the yes and no answers. So when I return I shall get down to some serious questions. :sun:

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I also abducted some new folks and took them with me. They did not struggle and had better camera's plus one is an artist and she is going to attempt to scretch the ant/mantis looking being tonight. There, I have said what I think the being appears to be. :ufo:

[greybeard]

Hi Billy
Sanskrit is an extremely complex language (as written) many thousands of years old --not the language of a primitive race --quite the opposite.
I am convinced that an advanced race of humans lived on the planet long ago--possibly more advanced than us.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit

Chris

[Billy]

I agree Chris, Sanskrit, although written later, mentions times in history that goes back hundreds of thousands of years.

Quote: https://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130225042211AAGwWDB#
The Rig Veda refers to the river Saraswati which was thought to be a mysthical one...but now proved to be an ancient river from Satellite photos that flowed about 10,000 years ago. Looking at this indisputable fact, the Rig Veda must be at least 10000 years old and the language even older. Also Dwarka was submerged during the last increase in sea levels caused by melting of the glaciers about 12,000 years ago. As Dwarka is mentioned in many Sanskrit works the language must be more than 12,000 years old.

This is why I believe the paintings are much older than 5.000yrs.
You mentioned in this thread earlier that the vimana flying machine's were not alien. Well I would say yes and no. Much like today the technology was passed on to a select few royal bloodlines. So yes, humans flew a primitive version of the much superior alien technology. Then it was kings and prince's who were allowed the technology, now it is secret governments that greedily keep the technology for themselves. But like the kings of old, they still misuse the technology today, and if they do not learn from the past, history will surely repeat itself and come back to bite them in the ass.:facepalm:

If they know that others know what they know. A place like Avalon can turn tide for the betterment of ALL humanity. :sun:

[Ewan]

Hi Billy
Sanskrit is an extremely complex language (as written) many thousands of years old --not the language of a primitive race --quite the opposite.
I am convinced that an advanced race of humans lived on the planet long ago--possibly more advanced than us.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit

Chris

Hi Chris, I took the liberty of highlighting a small portion of your post as it made me chuckle. IMO the word possibly should have been probably or maybe even definitely. :)

[greybeard]

Hi Billy
Sanskrit is an extremely complex language (as written) many thousands of years old --not the language of a primitive race --quite the opposite.
I am convinced that an advanced race of humans lived on the planet long ago--possibly more advanced than us.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit

Chris

Hi Chris, I took the liberty of highlighting a small portion of your post as it made me chuckle. IMO the word possibly should have been probably or maybe even definitely. :)

I was trying to be tactful Ewan.
Definitely is more applicable.

However more advanced in what way?
Looks like they almost succeeded in destroying the human race.
We may be heading in the same direction unfortunately.

Best wishes
Chris.

[Billy]

I see there is no questions. I said i would inform you. will be revisiting the cave paintings in a few hours time. :bigsmile:

Well, one question that still seems obvious is the dating anomaly... society in India was pretty advanced 3,000 years BC (5,000 years ago).

If this doesn't seem too wild... one option is to ask the paintings how old they are. They'll be imbued with the essence of the artists. That transcends time.

There'll still be an element of their life force in there they may answer you. It'd be interesting to ask the question in a quiet moment, and then see if you get a reply.

:star:

A Great idea Bill. I did not catch your message until I returned but I shot out to the small market and bought a dowsing crystal, I have tested it with many questioned and it was 100% correct on the yes and no answers. So when I return I shall get down to some serious questions. :sun:

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Today I revisited the cave paintings with my pendulum dowser. I must say it was very interesting and revealing. I sat and meditated for a while under the cobra painting. The cobra is inside the cave directly beneath the craft, before asking the questions.

I first asked if the paintings were older than 5000 yrs old. Answer. Yes.
Then older than 10,000. Answer. Yes.
More than 20,000 yrs. Answer. Yes
More than 30,000 yrs. Answer. Yes.
More than 40,000 yrs. Answer NO.
More than 35,000 yrs. Answer. Yes.
More than 38,000 yrs. Answer NO
More than 37,000yrs. Answer Yes.

So the answer is between 37,000 and 38,000 yrs old according to the dowsing method. :bowing:
I asked many more questions, which I shall have to share later. :sun:

[Bill Ryan]

I first asked if the paintings were older than 5000 yrs old. Answer. Yes.
Then older than 10,000. Answer. Yes.
More than 20,000 yrs. Answer. Yes
More than 30,000 yrs. Answer. Yes.
More than 40,000 yrs. Answer NO.
More than 35,000 yrs. Answer. Yes.
More than 38,000 yrs. Answer NO
More than 37,000yrs. Answer Yes.

So the answer is between 37,000 and 38,000 yrs old according to the dowsing method. :bowing:


:clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

[Billy]

This is my last full day in India as I head home at 3am in the morning. This truly has been yet another awesome journey, Not only with connecting with the cave paintings but also with many other experiences I have not yet shared.

As I mentioned above, I asked many more questions when I sat underneath the Cobra. At times the crystal pendulum took on a life of it's own and when it could not answer a question the way I asked. The thin chain remained perfectly vertically still while the crystal pulled itself up and down in all directions. It went a tad crazy. Until I rephrased the question and the answer became very clear.

Questions I asked.
Is the circular painting on the ceiling above a flying craft. YES.
We're the painters documenting a abduction experience. YES.
Is the human figure inside the craft a female. YES.
We're the females impregnated. YES.
We're any of the females taken away from their families never to return. NO
Was any of the females harmed during this experience. (Crystal goes crazy, see note above)
I rephrase the question.
We're the females emotionally traumatised by the experience. YES
We're the females physically hurt by the experience. NO.
Did the females become pregnant with a hybrid child. YES
Was the fetus removed before full term pregnancy was completed. NO
The female's gave birth to a hybrid child. YES
Did the females bring up those children. (Crystal goes crazy)
I rephrase the question.
Did the females bring up the children for a period of time. YES
We're the hiybrid children taken away from the mother's after this period of time. YES.

Was the Cobra painted at the same time as the other paintings. YES. (I had some doubt until this answer)
Is the being who is abducting the females from the Ant beings. NO
Is the being who is abducting the females a Mantis Being. YES.
Just to confirm. These paintings are between 37.000 and 38.000 yrs old. YES.

That was as far as I got asking questions as the guardian of the caves had to go.
The Cobra which I believe was painted for protection by the villagers.

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A side view of the cave with the Cobra inside. And above the paintings on the wall and craft on the ceiling. (The sky).

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Bye for now. :bowing:

[Bill Ryan]

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Well done, Billy — that is just so very fascinating. And from here, I have to say that all feels VERY plausible indeed.

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[Frenchy]

Thanks Billy,
Picture Three makes me think that those 'Boulders' were placed there, was this a wall ? esp as one seems to rectangular to be natural...

To all, A valuable website (imho) is ' EarthAfterFlood.com' created by a Russian, who is very sharing, knowledgeable, after the manner of Eric Von Daniken...

[Billy]

Thank you Frenchy. I apologise for taking so long to answer which is all down to the transition period due to returning back to Scotland from an incredible journey in India.

The official story concerning the rock formations in Hampi is that it is all natural formations made by nature. Which is at times hard to comprehend when you see layered straight lines within the formations. Hampi's mythology stretches back many thousands of years.
http://hampi.in/hampi-boulders

Some examples.layered boulders.
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Amazing balancing acts.
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An update. I took a lovely couple with me to the paintings. A lady named Andrea and her Indian husband. She snapped over 400 photos and has now sent me around 200 of those, the quality is far better than the ones I posted from my tablet. I will be posting a few of those soon. :sun:

[RunningDeer]

Those boulders are beautiful. You can almost hear them talking to each other. One big, old family.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/big-old-family_zpsgov1n5zg.jpg
♡

[Billy]

Yes indeed Paula. And when you are with the boulders it feels like they also talk to you. The picture you found above was the place I visited on my last day. It is situated way up the river, on it's own and is reputed to be the first meeting place of Rama and Hanuman. It is one of the great epic's in the Vedic scriptures.
http://hampi.in/ramayana-in-hampi

http://hampi.in/monuments-of-hampi

I have not mentioned this yet. But I believe it is no coincidence that the cave paintings are found so close to this ancient site. Which according to the Vedic scriptures, is also the birth place of Hanuman, who battled in the skys with the demigod Rava.

I am not sure what this boulder pecariously balanced over my head was saying. But it felt like sun had come down to meet me. :sun:

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[Billy]

Over two different visits to Hampi I visited the cave paintings 6 times. During 4 of these visits I invited along some new found friends with cameras to help me document the paintings before any harm came to them,
As I said previously, this site is not protected. There are a number of more people visiting the site, they are touching the paintings with their sweaty salty hands. One of the local farmers who doubled as a guide, who does care for the site, was squirting water from a plastic bottle over some of the paintings to highlight them. :facepalm: I asked him to stop doing this, he said he would stop.
The local farmers who found the site were becoming concerned, as the quary for the granite was encroaching ever closer to the site. This was why he contacted the Archaeologists to come and visit. But after 4 yrs now, the site is still not protected.

So far only one person, Andrea, has kindly sent her photos. Hopefully the others will follow when they return home. Andrea snapped more than 400 photos and has sent me around 160 of those. All in different resolutions, different zooms and positions.

Andrea and her lovely husband Abhi at the site.
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Myself and the two guys from Belgium who came with me. The one with the beard crawled deep inside the caves and found some pottery. He took photos left them there.
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[Billy]

On one of the visits, the farmer took us away from the main caves about half a kilometre away and showed us some more that we had not seen before.

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This is a close up of the third one. We all agreed that it appeared that those were different types of beings which look like are fighting.

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[Billy]

I point to the craft painted on the ceiling which the archaeologists reported as a map. When I mentioned to the guide that this was not a map but a flying craft. He threw himself at me with hugs and kisses on my cheeks.:blushing: No kidding. He agreed saying Yes, yes.

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[Billy]

Hi again everyone :bowing:

It has been 6 weeks now since I returned from India and i have been reflecting on my time there, i have more to share but on a different topic, another thread me thinks.

I feel i have to continue with the cave paintings first, just to get it out my system as i think about them and talk about them with friends and at work everyday. Along with another experience, It is what is exciting me at this time :dog: I am now ready to continue with more on the cave paintings over the next few days or weeks.

I understand that what I saw and experienced, also creates my own personal perception, sorry about that :ROFL:
You have my permission to pull me up if you think I am way off the mark or you think i have lost it altogether. Gently please. :grouphug:

Since I was a 4yr old, I always had a passion to know who was out there and who was who, one of the beings in the painting has always intrigued me, i wanted to draw what i saw, but i am no artist, my daughter's partner has enthusiastically offered to help scetch the being for me. :thumbsup:

This painting to me is documenting a visitation and abduction of humans by non human looking beings, I do not think the visitor's were appreciated by their hosts and hostesses. But I must say that the artist who painted this scene was an amazing artist for detail. He has managed to paint technology beyond his Ken. Not just the craft but the mechanical machinery on the ground also.

This is most of the whole scene. A section of the right side scene with the being.
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A close up of the being. Notice the main body goes way beyond the hips, like a thick tail. Kudos to this artist.

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A different artist this time, at the same caves depicting the same being. What looks at first to be three legs is actually two legs and the main body. They also have very long arms.

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Hopefully a rough scetch tomorrow before my artist fly's away on holiday with my daughter and grandson. :sun::sun:

[Billy]

Hello again, my daughter's partner kept his promise to attempt to scetch an artist impression of the being in the cave paintings before they left this morning to go on holiday. Poor soul as it was a bit of a rush for him at a busy time, I want to say that when I shared my experience with him 6 weeks ago he totally journeyed down the rabbit hole, researching for the first time cave paintings from all around the world over the last 30.000 yrs. He found some very interesting paintings of flying craft and beings similar to the ones depicted in the caves I visited.

The whole experience while researching fascinated him. His conclusion is that those specific insect type beings have been coming here or have always been here for many thousands of years.
I agree. I shall post a couple of pics of what he discovered.

Compare this cave painting of a craft found in 1966 in Mexico, dated around 7.000 yrs ago with the one I saw in India.. Note the lines around the rim in both crafts.

Queretaro Mexico. Hampi India
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Long stick beings from Tanzania, dated 29.000 yrs ago. They surround a female. Note what looks like horns on one of the beings on the right of the female, also there is a being inside a flying cube observing the scene.
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A cave painting from Nepal, dated 9.000 yrs old depicting a hovering disc at the centre and a small being resembling an alien grey. Note the spirals. This is named the Lalladof plate.

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I shall post the scetch of our guy in the next post.

[Billy]

We had to guess what the protrusion was jutting out from the head of the being, it appeared to thin for an antenna and looked more like horns. I think the tail like part of the main body is not as thick on the final scetch and comes more to a point. But it is close enough for a resemblance for now. I may as well post the first draft also.

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And here is our best effort, so far :bigsmile:

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[Pam]

We had to guess what the protrusion was jutting out from the head of the being, it appeared to thin for an antenna and looked more like horns. I think the tail like part of the main body is not as thick on the final scetch and comes more to a point. But it is close enough for a resemblance for now. I may as well post the first draft also.

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And here is our best effort, so far :bigsmile:

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Billy,

I love your drawings that illustrate these beings. I found them to be the most intriguing of all the cave paintings.

[Foxie Loxie]

This has all been most interesting.....thank you so much for sharing all this information!

[Peace of Mind]

:sherlock:
Looks like more Jesus Toast to me…

This could be anything. It could be a room, an operating table/platform/floor/an area rug, a bed, or even a Jacuzzi. I mean…why are people so fascinated with alien crafts? Hmmm…

Have you considered that this could be ancient graffiti…or just drawn by ancient children fooling around with friends after carving” hearts and I love you” messages in trees…
Could you imagine what people (in the future) will be thinking about the art/graffiti drawn on the walls in today’s society? Hmm….

Just to play along a bit…many ancient civilizations worshiped the sun. So, imho, this looks more like a partial depiction of a sun disk. Perhaps it’s a tribute to a loved one being with God, we don’t know, so why pretend like we do? Why is the idea of an alien spacecraft coming to people minds when we never ever had actual evidence of alien’s or their crafts to inspect? Hmm…..

Ancient societies were also quite advance in their technology (as seen in Egyptology). So if it is an “flying craft”…why does it have to be alien? Hmmm…

Truthfully, I don’t see anything alien/off world/extremely odd…unless I let my imagination run wild.

Peace

[Shannon]

:sherlock:
Looks like more Jesus Toast to me…

This could be anything. It could be a room, an operating table/platform/floor/an area rug, a bed, or even a Jacuzzi. I mean…why are people so fascinated with alien crafts? Hmmm…

Have you considered that this could be ancient graffiti…or just drawn by ancient children fooling around with friends after carving” hearts and I love you” messages in trees…
Could you imagine what people (in the future) will be thinking about the art/graffiti drawn on the walls in today’s society? Hmm….

Just to play along a bit…many ancient civilizations worshiped the sun. So, imho, this looks more like a partial depiction of a sun disk. Perhaps it’s a tribute to a loved one being with God, we don’t know, so why pretend like we do? Why is the idea of an alien spacecraft coming to people minds when we never ever had actual evidence of alien’s or their crafts to inspect? Hmm…..

Ancient societies were also quite advance in their technology (as seen in Egyptology). So if it is an “flying craft”…why does it have to be alien? Hmmm…

Truthfully, I don’t see anything alien/off world/extremely odd…unless I let my imagination run wild.

Peace


Yes imagination is key, sir.

Mod hat off...
You say you'd play along but really just poo pooed the whole thing. You ask why people pretend like they know....no one knows.... But if no one asked questions or let their imagination run wild we would still be living like we did in ancient times.


Billy, thank you for sharing these amazing photos and thanks to your daughters man for the drawings. I find them all to be fascinating. Very cool, man. :)

[Peace of Mind]

:sherlock:
Looks like more Jesus Toast to me…

This could be anything. It could be a room, an operating table/platform/floor/an area rug, a bed, or even a Jacuzzi. I mean…why are people so fascinated with alien crafts? Hmmm…

Have you considered that this could be ancient graffiti…or just drawn by ancient children fooling around with friends after carving” hearts and I love you” messages in trees…
Could you imagine what people (in the future) will be thinking about the art/graffiti drawn on the walls in today’s society? Hmm….

Just to play along a bit…many ancient civilizations worshiped the sun. So, imho, this looks more like a partial depiction of a sun disk. Perhaps it’s a tribute to a loved one being with God, we don’t know, so why pretend like we do? Why is the idea of an alien spacecraft coming to people minds when we never ever had actual evidence of alien’s or their crafts to inspect? Hmm…..

Ancient societies were also quite advance in their technology (as seen in Egyptology). So if it is an “flying craft”…why does it have to be alien? Hmmm…

Truthfully, I don’t see anything alien/off world/extremely odd…unless I let my imagination run wild.

Peace


Yes imagination is key, sir.

Mod hat off...
You say you'd play along but really just poo pooed the whole thing. You ask why people pretend like they know....no one knows.... But if no one asked questions or let their imagination run wild we would still be living like we did in ancient times.


Billy, thank you for sharing these amazing photos and thanks to your daughters man for the drawings. I find them all to be fascinating. Very cool, man. :)


No need to remove the hat, or even mention it.

I’m ok with “Poo pooing” being your opinionated observation (its not mine), as I only see more inconclusive material being challenge with some rational thinking.

It’s disheartening to see that most of this alien stuff is inspiring (what appears) to be false ideologies in to impressionable minds.

I’ve given reasonable ideas of what the picture can be, instead of just imagining something that is actually far fetch and lacks logic. Over the years I’ve seen these sought of posts over and over and they often are displayed like propaganda…and almost talked about in a “matter of fact” fashion. How can this be..............without any evidence to support any of these claims?

While observing these tales (here and elsewhere) for the past few years…I’ve come to terms that there is a deceitful agenda at hand. Before coming to this website (and others) I actually believed in aliens. SO I decided to research, dig deeper, read everything, listen to everything.... and guess what? nothing to show for any of it... but a lost in revenue and time.

I'm finding it unfortunate that the steady streams of inconclusive data/testimonies/and unproven claims are killing that belief. Now, the whole alien phenomenon seems more like a setup/control scheme, way more than anything else. And the fact that no one here can't prove me wrong in this assumption should make/cause those that hold interest in the subject more alarmed and suspicious. In the least...more aware to the potentials.

As far as this thread goes… I’m just not one to believe without removing all doubt, some people may refer to this exercise as the “process of elimination”. It’s a healthy thing to do.

Imagination is seen in everything…so it’s very important to be careful and mindful of what you’re thinking about. My track record is thorough, always real, always questioning what appears suspect, always caring for the mind of the self and the collective. You'll never see me post anything that can't be experienced, I'm very responsible when it comes to offering anything of importance and/or life altering. Wish we all would do that...

Peace

[Shannon]

Well you say you're always questioning but seem to take issue with what others question.

Just an obsevation im experiencing... Have a good one man.

[Peace of Mind]

Well you say you're always questioning but seem to take issue with what others question.

Just an obsevation im experiencing... Have a good one man.

This is a forum I’ve always held in high regards; I wouldn’t be here if I didn’t. So for that very reason alone… I’m dedicated to aiding in transparency and finding ways to obtain anything of substance that will reveal truths and/or expose lies.

I’ll always question the Alien subjects for 2 main reasons. I want actual proof, and that I can clearly see how it raises the anxiety level and interests in others.

We humans are accustomed to living out our lives following deceivers, and believing in lies. I aim to eliminate that by being an actual proponent to the truth movement. In these times of despair and “skull doggery”… I no longer can afford to be intrigued with these constant unconfirmed tales of aliens…not when we should be more focused on humans. People here have great potential, ideas, but it seems to always be wasted on these alien topics that does nothing but leave them stagnated. It's not hard to tell.

The fact that the ideas of aliens are starting to hold more interest than the declining state of humanity should be a clear wakeup call…and a clear example to our lack of focus. Many of us are waking up to the dishonesty/wickedness in our world… but all this alien stuff is doing is rocking many of us back to sleep. If we are the awaken, and the caring…Let’s start staying focus on what truly matters, and in the process… perhaps offer a bit more respect and acknowledgement for those that are truly committed to that cause. I really don't mind all the various topics of discussions...but I just have to call it like it is..

Be well…

Peace

[Billy]

Hi Peace of mind.
It is difficult for me to quote your comments on my tablet, I must say you also have a very vivid imagination. Jesus toast made me laugh. I would say more like a plate of biriyani with samosa on the side.

But seriously, I am sorry you do not have the proof or evidence that we are not alone in this universe or proof that advanced flying craft exist and have done for many hundreds of thousands of years, my opinion is that personal proof comes with personal experiences. I have been honoured with personal experiences since a child with other worldly beings and seeing their crafts also. I do not seek proof from anyone else or feel I have to prove anything to anyone, as my lives experiences are my personal proof.

My visit to the cave paintings was also a personal experience, as I said earlier in the thread, I share my perspective of what I saw and felt while I was there. No one has to agree or believe what I share here, the main purpose of this thread is to document the paintings before they are lost or damaged as they are not protected. And to share yet another amazing experience that came my way while travelling around India recently.

I hope you find what you seek. But I do not think anyone else will ever hand you proof on a plate, personal experiences will be your proof.

Take care.

[Bill Ryan]

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(copied from the Avalon Library thread, here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89859-The-Avalon-Library&p=1068333&viewfull=1#post1068333))

157 photos of 5,000 year old (or maybe much older!) cave paintings in Hampi, India, seeming to depict alien craft, described by Billy and discussed in his thread here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89076-5-000yr-old-cave-painting-of-alien-craft-in-India.&p=1050512).

I've divided the images into four broad categories for download. The images are huge, of the highest quality, and (in my opinion!) pretty stunningly beautiful. They're much larger and more vivid than the ones on the thread.


Landscapes: Hampi_India_cave_paintings_Landscapes.zip (http://avalonlibrary.net/Bill/Hampi_India_cave_paintings_Landscapes.zip) (228 Mb)



People: Hampi_India_cave_paintings_People.zip (http://avalonlibrary.net/Bill/Hampi_India_cave_paintings_People.zip) (138 Mb)



Paintings (a small sample, to view and see if you want to download the large file of all of them): Hampi_India_cave_paintings_Paintings_sample.zip (http://avalonlibrary.net/Bill/Hampi_India_cave_paintings_Paintings_sample.zip) (76 Mb)



Paintings (the whole collection): Hampi_India_cave_paintings_Paintings_all.zip (http://avalonlibrary.net/Bill/Hampi_India_cave_paintings_Paintings_all.zip) (1.13 Gb)

[Billy]

We had to guess what the protrusion was jutting out from the head of the being, it appeared to thin for an antenna and looked more like horns. I think the tail like part of the main body is not as thick on the final scetch and comes more to a point. But it is close enough for a resemblance for now. I may as well post the first draft also.

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And here is our best effort, so far :bigsmile:

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Billy,

I love your drawings that illustrate these beings. I found them to be the most intriguing of all the cave paintings.

Thank you, I also found the creatures in the paintings more intriguing than what I believe to be a craft. There are more beings within the paintings. even more intriguing is when all paintings are taken into context together.

[Pam]

Well you say you're always questioning but seem to take issue with what others question.

Just an obsevation im experiencing... Have a good one man.

This is a forum I’ve always held in high regards; I wouldn’t be here if I didn’t. So for that very reason alone… I’m dedicated to aiding in transparency and finding ways to obtain anything of substance that will reveal truths and/or expose lies.

I’ll always question the Alien subjects for 2 main reasons. I want actual proof, and that I can clearly see how it raises the anxiety level and interests in others.

We humans are accustomed to living out our lives following deceivers, and believing in lies. I aim to eliminate that by being an actual proponent to the truth movement. In these times of despair and “skull doggery”… I no longer can afford to be intrigued with these constant unconfirmed tales of aliens…not when we should be more focused on humans. People here have great potential, ideas, but it seems to always be wasted on these alien topics that does nothing but leave them stagnated. It's not hard to tell.

The fact that the ideas of aliens are starting to hold more interest than the declining state of humanity should be a clear wakeup call…and a clear example to our lack of focus. Many of us are waking up to the dishonesty/wickedness in our world… but all this alien stuff is doing is rocking many of us back to sleep. If we are the awaken, and the caring…Let’s start staying focus on what truly matters, and in the process… perhaps offer a bit more respect and acknowledgement for those that are truly committed to that cause. I really don't mind all the various topics of discussions...but I just have to call it like it is..

Be well…

Peace

Peace of Mind, I really to get what you are saying here. I for one have never had a huge interest in UFOs. I have never developed a strong opinion, either way. I do have a real quest however to find out why humans are on this planet at this time. I don't believe we fit in to the rest of the food chain, so to speak. We seem hopelessly out of place here, in my opinion. That has led me to believe that it might be very important for our future to discover our past. That would be , our real past, not the lies we have been told. Who better to give us hints than the ancients. Plus, I love a good mystery.

[Billy]

.
(copied from the Avalon Library thread, here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89859-The-Avalon-Library&p=1068333&viewfull=1#post1068333))

157 photos of 5,000 year old (or maybe much older!) cave paintings in Hampi, India, seeming to depict alien craft, described by Billy and discussed in this thread.

I've divided the images into four broad categories for download. The images are huge, of the highest quality, and (in my opinion!) pretty stunningly beautiful. They're much larger and more vivid than the ones shown in the various posts on this thread.


Landscapes: http://we.tl/jLDmvmLIBq (https://we.tl/jLDmvmLIBq) (228 Mb)



People: http://we.tl/L3KuHFrxVw (https://we.tl/L3KuHFrxVw) (138 Mb)



Paintings (a small sample, to view and see if you want to download the large file of all of them): http://we.tl/VuIkAy6kqJ (https://we.tl/VuIkAy6kqJ) (76 Mb)



Paintings (the whole collection): http://we.tl/wWZm7yNnJX (https://we.tl/wWZm7yNnJX) (1.13 Gb)


I want to say thank you to Bill and Paul with helping me document the photos of the cave paintings within the Avalon Library. It was actually quite a task, but thanks to Paul's determination we managed it.

Thanks also go to Andrea for coming with me to visit the paintings and capturing such wonderful photos then sending them to me. All the photos in the links above document one of many visits from arriving till leaving. This was also the only visit when the farmer took us all further afield away from the main caves to see more paintings which even the Archaeologists had not seen. This involved some climbing up the huge boulders, jumping over large gaps to get to them. I just remembered that one of the Belgium guys wondered off and was lost for a while. Then he could not find his way back down. So he ended up sliding down the boulders on his butt and we had to catch him. All fine in the end. :bigsmile:

Kudos to all who helped. :clapping:

[Billy]

Yes indeed Paula. The picture you found above was the place I visited on my last day. It is situated way up the river, on it's own and is reputed to be the first meeting place of Rama and Hanuman. It is one of the great epic's in the Vedic scriptures.
http://hampi.in/ramayana-in-hampi

http://hampi.in/monuments-of-hampi

I have not mentioned this yet. But I believe it is no coincidence that the cave paintings are found so close to this ancient site. Which according to the Vedic scriptures, is also the birth place of Hanuman, who battled in the skys with the demigod Rava.

I thought I would share some of the photos I took of this ancient site on my last day. This is all within a short distance from the cave paintings. The architecture and stone work is out of this world.

A stone build flying Chariot
In mythology Lord Vittala is an aspect of Lord Vishnu. Garuda (lord of eagles) is the vehicle (mount) of Lord Vishnu. The Stone Chariot once contained the icon on Garuda, though the shrine is empty now.
These are all from the Vittala Temple. Those pillars reminded me of Roslyn Chappel
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[Billy]

More.
Musical pillars.
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[Billy]

This carving of Vishnu was on it's own by the side of the river bank. Also this one.

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I met this young lady in the temple as she was having her make-up done. :bigsmile:

I shall be moving on from this thread as mission complete now. Over the next couple of weeks I shall be updating a completely different experience which completely blew me away, this i shall post on my Naadi Shastra thread.here.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?64742-Naadi-Shastra-My-experience-with-Destiny

I had to get the cave paintings out of my system first before I could even begin to express what happened with this one. :bearhug:

[Atlas]

From: http://travel-in-home.blogspot.com/2010/10/inside-story-onake-kindi-rock-art-from.html


On my return to Bangalore, I started researching on the prehistoric sites near Anegundi and learnt from Professor Ravi Korisettar , an authority on the subject that the rock painting belonged to the Iron Age, somewhere around the period of about 1500 BC .

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/archeo/Anegundi.jpg

“The faded circular painting is a very rare depiction of a megalithic style of burial. If you look closely, you can see a human body in the middle and a lot of burial goods, surrounded by a stone circle“ said Professor Korisettar , from the Department of History and Archaeology from Karnatak University in Dharwad.

The sun and moon like symbols , the ladder and the water depicted on the rock probably referred to their various beliefs .” We can only interpret these images; the sun and moon for instance can be seen in some hero stones as well which probably suggests immortality,” added Prof Srikumar Menon, a Faculty of Architecture from the Manipal Institute of Technology.

[Billy]

Thank you Atlas for this report of another interpretation of a burial chamber from a different archaeologists, along with a much earlier date of 1.500 BC. compared with the previous archeological report from India that you posted earlier in this thread, that this painting is a map.
The conclusion is that the Archaeologists cannot agree as to what this painting depicts, like us all they are interpreting differently from their own observations.

I do not understand why the Archaeologists are looking at this painting separately, instead of bringing it into context within the whole scene of the paintings that surround it, as a mural. And to also include the paintings near this mural. As my observation tells me that there is an important documentation of an unusual experience that the villagers witnessed when everything is taken into context together. Oh how I would just love to have a meeting with all the Archaeologists together on the actual site. :idea: maybe a mission for next year if they are interested.

My problem with the burial chamber theory is that this is NOT how the iron age buried their loved ones in India. Yes they had stone circles as we see all over the world. But those stone circles were astronomical sites as they are everywhere else in the world. Not burial sites.

http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=30817&all=1&noglimit=1
What could be an early representation of the Great Bear constellation dating back to around 500 B.C. has been discovered on a piece of rock at Mudumula village of Mahabubnagar district by the University of Hyderabad, The Hindu reported in April 2006.

The University's History department dated the find to the megalithic period and suggested the sky map as being the earliest physical representation of the sky discovered in the country. "This probably could even be the earliest such representation in the entire South Asia," Reader in department of History K.P.Rao who led the team, claimed at a media conference here on Monday.

The representation of the group of stars was found on a square table-like rock with a flat slanting top. "This appears to have been deliberately planted by the megalithic people to plot the Great Bear constellation, also known as `Ursa Major' and referred to as `Saptarshi Mandala' in Indian astronomy," Dr.Rao said.

The group of seven stars, four of which appear like a rectangle and a tail-like formation with three stars, has been mapped on the rock in the form of cup-marks. The Great Bear constellation was used by several communities especially the caravans and sea voyagers to identify the `Pole Star', located above the north pole and thus locate the exact north.

80 Menhirs found

Apart from the sky map of `seven stars', researchers found accurate depiction of other stars and groups at Mudumala. Dr.Rao described the site as unique since it was dotted with about 80 big menhirs (standing stones) some as tall as 14 feet and several hundreds of smaller menhirs scattered all over the agricultural fields. The central area of the monuments has a resemblance to the Stonehenge site in England, it is said.

Dr.Rao and team visited the site on the days of summer and winter solstice and equinox and found that particular rows of stones were aligned to the rising and setting Sun on these days. "This suggests the megalithic community here was aware of the solar trajectories," he said. The investigations at the site were conducted with financial assistance from the University Grants Commission. End quote:



They buried their loved ones in either small stone cists or sarcophaguses where the bones were kept and buried, (possibly after cremation) as at Stonehenge, they sometimes were buried near ancient standing stone sites. As of the likes of the long barrows and earth mounds.
An example of Iron age cists found in India. There are many.

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Another form of burial was within a dolmen. A SQUARE stone slab construction with a slap of granite as a roof which was all above ground. Some have one hole which they call a soul hole.

Example.
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Therefore I disagree with this latest burial theory also. But that is my perception. :bigsmile:

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

While searching for more info on the above cave paintings I came across an article in The Times of India news paper from 2014 on the same theme but different caves. Thought I would share as it is all connected. :bigsmile:


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/10000-year-old-rock-paintings-depicting-aliens-and-UFOs-found-in-Chhattisgarh/articleshow/38435091.cms
10,000-year-old rock paintings depicting aliens and UFOs found in Chhattisgarh.ttisgarh state department of archaeology and culture plans to seek help from Nasa and Isro for research on 10,000-year-old rock paintings depicting aliens and UFOs in Charama region in Kanker district in tribal Bastar region.
According to archaeologist JR Bhagat, these paintings have depicted aliens like those shown in Hollywood and Bollywood flicks. Located about 130km from Raipur, the caves come under village Chandeli and Gotitola.
"The findings suggest that humans in prehistoric times may have seen or imagined beings from other planets which still create curiosity among people and researchers. Extensive research is needed for further findings. Chhattisgarh presently doesn't have any such expert who could give clarity on the subject," Bhagat told TOI.


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Read more here.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/10000-year-old-rock-paintings-depicting-aliens-and-UFOs-found-in-Chhattisgarh/articleshow/38435091.cms

Thanks for this excellent thread and fascinating images. Regarding this other set of cave paintings from Chhattisgarh, I thought it was worth taking a closer, more detailed look, and to enhance them a little.

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That is pretty intriguing if you ask me. :alien:

[Billy]

I agree Star Mariner. If folks took time to research our past, they would find that disclosure on other worldy beings already happened thousands of years ago. It is all documented, painted, written and carved into stone for us to see today.

I am going to post another painting from Hampi that i also found intriguing.
As a side note, the pictures I post here are no where near the quality as the ones in the downloads links that Bill posted.

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Notice the lower horizontal line. And the peoples positions. There is an above and below theme there.

[J K Rainbow]

Not micky taking, serious question - is there some way to use this dowsing method to get numerical answers, like next week's euromillions? or do you actually have to be in a place in which the energy of some being, like in this case what you call "guardian" can reply to you via the crystal?

[wnlight]

My answer to dowsing question:
I sent in a detailed response but it lost by server and not posted.

Since I had to write it all over again, I decided to post a new page on my Web site.
This allows me to expand on the subject, and hopefully update it now and then.

My new Dowsing Q & A page is here.
http://light.ec/Dowsing/DowsingQAndA.html

[Billy]

Namaste everyone. I arrived back in Hampi two days ago where two years ago I visited the cave paintings and photographed then documented as many as was possible, the results which are thanks to Bill and Paul are now safely stored within the Avalon Library.
The links are in this post from Bill.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89076-5-000yr-old-cave-painting-of-alien-craft-in-Hampi-India.&p=1068727&viewfull=1#post1068727

I hired a bike yesterday and headed to revisit the cave paintings today only to find that there is now no access and the site has been permanently closed to visitors. No one knows why :confused:
Two years ago anyone could visit now there is a sign on the door.

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But a local farmer showed me some paintings that were outside the main site.
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I am so glad to have documented the paintings two years ago before the site was completely closed. :sun:

[Billy]

Something else that was quite uplifting for me happened which I shared with the mods on Skype. This may take two posts as there a few pictures.

I was watching a guy from Japan doodling on blank post cards in the restaurant where I am staying. He was so intent on what he was doing I became curious. I waited for him to stop then asked if I could see his work.

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Some samples.

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He does this with only a pen. I was quite impressed. :star:

I then saw one drawing that took everything in a new direction for him. Continued on next post.

[Billy]

This was the drawing that caught my attention. If you look back in this thread, you will see that the boulders in Hampi are very impressive and balanced on top of each other with wonderful precision. Hard to believe they are a natural formation. So his imagination took a different perspective. :idea:
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So after chatting for a while I shared with him some of my cave paintings photos, which he had never seen or heard about. The expression on his face was classic. His mouth wide open, he was gobsmacked. :jaw:

Then he asked me a serious question. Billy do you have some words or a phrase you use that is close to your heart ? I thought about it then shared my signature that I have used for the last 25 yrs and use here on Avalon.
He wrote it down and said that he climbs up the boulders to a cave at night, then meditates. He said he would meditate on my words and to come and see him next day again.
The next day he handed me a gift. But not before he announced that my signature was now his signature and that he translated it into Japanese and sent it to his wife.
He then said that my words had changed his life and today was a new beginning for him. He showed me a drawing that expressed this new beginning for him. :bowing::blushing:

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Not a very clear picture, it says. Start again, start again, Feel, Head to feet, feet to head.

Then he gave me the card he wanted to gift me. He said this is a view from inside the craft looking through the window to the outside world.
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He left last night but not before gifting me yet another drawing.

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He explained that the drawing was his expression that the craft and occupants are teaching the masses.

End of story and a lovely encounter for me. :sun:

[Billy]

For those who have not seen the cave paintings pictures.

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[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Thanks Billy, those are some amazing drawings. That guy has a great talent. You were definitely meant to meet him, or rather, perhaps, he was meant to meet you. I think you've set him on a new journey. Awesome.

[Foxie Loxie]

What a wonderful, thrilling encounter! Thanks for sharing, Billy!! :Music::dancing:

[mountain_jim]

Your photos and stories are so appreciated!

As are that fellow's drawings!

Thanks!