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CurEus
7th March 2016, 01:47
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I really enjoyed this documentary! It traces Maori Oral tradition, the logs of European Ships Captains, Archaeological artefacts, arcitecture and recent DNA testing to weaves a credible narrative of the origins of the Blonde and Redheaded Indigenous Maori and their origins.

Most on Avalon will be familiar with the red headed Paracas skulls...the theories of Giant's Migration as they fled the Middle East....their relationship to New Zealand and South Pacific may force us to rewrite much of "history". The presenters strike me as honest and candid people bewildered by the rewriting of New Zealand's history and destruction of much material evidence.

Here is their own write up...

NEW ZEALAND. SKELETONS IN THE CUPBOARD. PART 1 (of 3). THE REDHEADS.
‘New Zealand. Skeletons in the Cupboard — Part One— The Redheads’ digs deeply into the now denied history of the early Patuparaiaehe, the Turehu, the Urekehu and the once powerful but peace loving red or golden-haired, green- eyed early inhabitants — the Ngati Hotu and the Waitaha. Who are these people, where did they come from and where are they now?


One woman’s story of her ancestral folk lore leads to the elocal magazine article: ‘DNA to Rock the Nation,’ and sparks our inquiry. Celebrated author, Barry Brailsford brings the story of Waitaha to life in an emotionally stirring interview. On viewing the film for the first time he remarked, ‘It’s the best documentary investigation of the old history and for the first time it gives a factual scientific basis to help the mainstream understand. I feel so pleased that the lonely journey is now supported in such an authoritative way. Wonderful research, great narration and fantastic film work.’


The story takes us through ancient fairy stories while Presenter Gabi Plumm hunts for proof of their existence. She delves into the history of the red heads and why they are slowly vanishing off the face of the earth. And they are not the only things that are vanishing. Evidence emerges of: missing archeological data and carbon datings that go back 4000 years, sites with seventy-five year embargoes pasted on them because of the age of the finds, skeletons with skulls the size of pumpkins destroyed and bulldozed over, and people too scared to talk.


(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z6PlYiQSTs)

CurEus
7th March 2016, 01:52
http://www.polynesian-prehistory.com/

(http://www.polynesian-prehistory.com/)

Above is the Director/Producer's Website. for those inclined to do a bit more digging into this fascinating area.

I have communicated with the Presenter Gabbi as I was once planning on doing a PHD on Giants and forgotten human relatives so if she were to find some remains and I can collect samples from Peru, America, Asia and the Middle East I'd be set to turn the cult of " Modern" Anthropology upside down.

Robert Baird
7th March 2016, 03:23
Yes, and the Maori and Moors are linguistically connected by Barry Fell.

The Moriori Kelts by Martin Doutre and so on. I have a sh**load on it. Not Nephilim but red heads like the Easter Island Moa or Urumchi and Tarim Basin who had to move when their homeland became a desert. In Poverty Point the men averaged seven feet tall. They went to Barabudur and all of the region. But DNA shows they were with the Ainu. Thus the sidhe and DN or D'Ainu.

Many books I have done with thousands of well referenced details. I think I am the only one working the DN (Homer and Danaus who founded Greece) connection and Ainu connection.

I will put a little intro to one of my books with a lot of the kinds of reference in it. It is to a book called The Prehistoric Worldwide Import of the Great Lakes.

Zampano
7th March 2016, 16:39
Wow, that was really good!

Robert Baird
7th March 2016, 17:27
That brings us to the T-Square which figures so prominent in the Masonic token or symbology. The early one had no arc for angular calculation but the Torquetum required the perpendicular calculation which it would provide. This important symbol is known as the T-Square of Ptah and the Masons claim they are the continuation of knowledge going back at least ten thousand years. Churchward traced it back 50,000 years and felt it could be much older. Bucky Fuller said the first seafarers who travelled over the horizon navigating by the stars would learn geometry and basic trigonometry as well as carpentry. I think a T-square would have been a natural outcome of these things and I know mankind travelled across over the horizon to get to Flores Island over 825,000 years ago.

As part of the research team that sought to know how advanced the ancient navigational equipment and computers or astrolabes were, Dr. Sentiel Rommel deserves credit he has not received; although it might be that credit would come in the form of ridicule such as was directed at Barraclough Fell. Here is an excerpt from The Epigraphic Society Occasional Publication no. 20 on pages 2-3 which makes mention of his assistance in these regards that prove Maui was not the only possessor of a Torquetum or Tanawa in pre-Christian times. The West Irian caves are near where archaeology found art dated to 520,000+ years ago - in 2014. That is almost a half million years before the Lascaux caves which many academics probably still think it the earliest human art. Art is a conceptual brain development and I think the Neanderthal are still with us in our blood.

"Navigation equipment depicted in the Irian Caves From Commander F. E. Bassett, USN,
Chairman, Navigation Department, United States Naval Academy (Annapolis): 22 November 1974

Your letter concerning the West Irian cave discoveries was received with great interest? The following comments are offered concerning the sketches. They are only educated guesses based on the collective knowledge of navigation department personnel of celestial navigation (we have no experts on navigation prior to the European Age of Discoveries. But we do have a number of texts that may point you in the correct direction in your search for a leading authority)?

a. no apparent significance.

b. Agreement. It would seem that the light ray is the only logical explanation. (Note by editor: this refers to the first figure in the series of diagrams published in Occ. Pub. No. 18. The sketch was submitted to the Naval authorities before the associated hieroglyphic text was identified and deciphered. The deciphered caption proved to read 'ray from the sun\.)

c. The drawing appears to resemble an explanatory diagram discussing the theory of parallel light rays from outer space. The theory assumes that the celestial bodies are at an infinite distance from the earth. (Note by editor: this refers to the second figure in Occ. Pub. No. 18. Here again Commander Bassett's interpretation is in excellent agreement with the hieroglyphic text subsequently deciphered.)

d. It is speculated that figure d is a diagram illustrating that one body would be observed at different altitudes from different positions of observers. (Note by editor: This refers to the third diagram in Occ. Pub. No. 18 for which no related text has been so far identified. Commander Bassett's suggestion seems to be a very reasonable and appropriate explanation of the diagram.)

Group 3. Items shown as anchors appear definitely to be anchors. Item A might perhaps be a grapnel hook. Items B and C could possibly be altitude measuring devices which use a plumb bob to establish the vertical. The circular portion may be inscribed with angular scale. {The Masonic T- square has this concept and may symbolize their ancient trading secret that enabled them to go to where they wanted and continue to trade for cocaine, emeralds and gold without much competition for many millennia. I will cover this in greater detail shortly.} (Note by editor: these items are still under study at Harvard where there is agreement with these comments; one item depicted is apparently an early form of Torquetum, an analog computer employing a plumb bob and circular scales, used in the study of planetary motion along the elliptic. Dr. Sentiel Rommel is developing a replica.)?.

Item E best resembles illustrations of early astrolabes. (Note by the Editor: the hieroglyphic text accompanying this figure is believed to read ?Number reckoner of the Delta astronomer?; and Harvard scientists developed a wood model based on the sketch, calibrated to give time by night, the position of the zodiacal constellations at all hours for all days of the year, the daily correction of correction of cross staff zenith angle to yield latitude, and the daily position of the sun on the ecliptic. This model will be published after further study by Dr. Sentiel Rommel.)"

The mention of Delta intrigues me. I know the Great Pyramid produces Delta wave form energy and I believe most astrolabes were in tune with the cosmic and earth energy. Based on metallurgical analysis we know the astrolabe found in Wisconsin dates to the same era or earlier than the Antikythera. There are two perfect tetrahedra in the Great Pyramid and the energy flowing around and over (or through) it causes changing effects which may be discernable in other key locations on the Earth Energy Grid where many have shown the same harmonic vibration does exist. The Mayan people built their city centers on these key points. Masons build stele in the middle of existing roads in the Nova Scotia Grid tied in with Oak Island. I think we can imagine these technologies may account for the two sidereal charts of the heavens (along with recently discovered lenses in various parts of the world) inside the Great Pyramid. That means there was this kind of technology around approximately 80,000 years ago because each sidereal chart of Sirius (AKA - polar wander path) takes almost 26,000 years to observe.

bearcow
7th March 2016, 20:21
very good worth watching

Becky
7th March 2016, 20:57
very good worth watching

Agreed,
It's devastating how our true history and evolution has been suppressed to be kept hidden as it doesn't fit with popular current theories of human history, be that on a local or global scale.
I found this very evocative. It's wonderful that New Zealand still has strong pockets of old cultures keeping up the stories and traditions of old.
What saddens me is that our current culture and paradigm of schooling and brainwashing by media and politicians and TV has taken many of us from our roots so we have no clear and true understanding of our heritage, our ancestors. This leaves us anchor-less really, disconnected. This is how I am left feeling anyway.

I felt strongly that the life I am living today is so very different from the lives of our ancestors. The technological times have become so distracting. What I find sad is that many people really couldn't care less about the history of humankind, like it is of no importance. My kids don't care at this moment in their teenage lives...one day I hope they will become more interested in humanity than in technology. Sometimes I feel that the truth and spirituality and history of humanity is fighting a losing battle against technology and lies and distractions. I hope not. Sorry for the ramble...

CurEus
8th March 2016, 04:37
I tend to believe that there were several red headed diaspora

Originally identified as from the Middle East I Maybe a antideluvian civilization?) , then to Europe Asia and around the rest of the world. These are "mostly" modern humans and found in often starling places. Sophisticated clothing, weaving, sciences and skills. Id say some were to become Celts, Persians etc They have a variety of hair colours but often blonde or red. Often seen as "teachers" and wise people.

A separate breed of "something" Giantish. A human cousin, Nephilim, or perhaps even it is unclear...they seem to come in 3 forms

A. Gigantic Human. Titan sized. Rage beasts, primitive, incredibly mean and destructive.
B. Giant Humanoid with 6 fingers, double rows of teeth. Tendency towards eating humans. Pretty much same as above but some specific groups seemed to be quite sophisticated in highly advanced stonework construction techniques. May be responsible for some basic megalithic monuments and earth works?
C. VERY tall humanoids with exceedingly elongated skulls ( Paracas Peru and elsewhere) I tend to think they may be the brightest of all of them...Their hair is almost auburn and quite an odd colouring at that.

It seems in those instances of giants and modern humans meeting we eventually ended up in genocidal confrontations for self preservation. From The Middle East in the Sumerian and Biblical accounts , Europe in folklore, and S. America ( Peru) a rebellion of sorts.

I wish I could get all the researchers together and on the same page!!
Has anyone noticed that it seems there has been severe prejudiced attitudes towards red heads almost forever? Is this some genetic imperative?

BMJ
13th August 2016, 14:01
WHO WAS HERE BEFORE THE POLYNESIAN / MELANESIAN MAORI?

Link: http://www.celticnz.co.nz/mnz_pt1.html

New Zealand archaeologists and historians, when confronted with dissenting points of view that challenge their official, sanitised and "politically correct" version of regional history, generally respond with a standard, "off the shelf", comment: If anyone was here before the Maoris then where's the proof? In what must be the most blatant example of, not seeing the forest for the trees, the answer lies in the totality of Maori culture itself.

The proof is in the carvings, the symbols, the canoes, the nets, the weaves, plaids, mokos (facial tattoos) buildings, fortified positions, sculptured hills, trig marker mapping systems, canal and drainage systems, greenstone artefacts, oral traditions and ruined stone structures, such as standing stone circles, covering the length and breadth of New Zealand. A few centuries ago the former civilisation was overwhelmed and annihilated by the Maori warriors and all possessions were taken over by the conquerors. Burial caves all over New Zealand contain the remains of red, brown or blond haired Indo-European skeletons.
Note: We have testimony from eye-witnesses and participants, that the New Zealand authorities have ordered that particular caves, known to contain non-Polynesian / Melanesian skeletons and artefacts, have their entryways covered & concealed... and in one instance, by bringing in a bulldozer.

http://www.celticnz.org/images/MegalithicNZ/image010.jpg

This is one of 11 mummified heads repatriated to New Zealand in 1998 by Minister of Maori Affairs, Tau Henare. Is this the head that a British Museum was reluctant to include, as they felt it was European and should remain with Europeans? The Maori warriors sold these heads to whalers about 200 years ago and the individual was born about the time of Captain James Cook's second exploratory voyage to New Zealand. The light complexion, reddish hair and facial contours suggest a person of European descent. These people, who were once numerous, were referred to, by Maori, as "kiri-puwhero" (light complexioned skin) with hair that was "Uru-kehu" (reddish, golden tinged). Note the spiral pattern to the side of the nose. These pre-colonial mummified heads, many of which still reside in foreign collections, should be subjected to DNA analysis.

KiwiElf
13th August 2016, 16:59
Thank you for posting this long overdue "inconvenient truth" :)

And that needs to be emphasized because that's not the way the FALSE Maori history is marketed overseas today; contrary to popular myth, the Maori were NOT indigenous to New Zealand. Furthermore, there are no longer any pure Maori in existence; they are all intermingled with other races.

When I was a kid at school, it was common knowledge that there was a peaceful race of people known as the Moriori [sic] long before the Maori arrived in New Zealand. That fact has literally been wiped away by modern NZ "history". (A "taboo" and "un-PC" subject in NZ schools these days!) The Maori slaughtered and cannibalized them, as they had done in their pre-NZ place of origin (that's why they were effectively "evicted" from the Polynesian Islands; they were one of the most violent (& cannibal) examples of the Pacific Races - talk to the Pacific Islanders if you want the "truth" about that ;).

Sadly, cannibalism aside, nothing much has changed for many of them: despite their relatively small population (roughly 15% identify as being Maori - this is a long & skewed story in itself... the "Maori rules" say anyone can "identify" as Maori, - even if they're not :facepalm:), they disproportionately account for the majority of prison inmates, & most violent, gang/drug-related & theft crimes in this country. Every few weeks, one of their innocent children (I'm talking babies and toddlers) is often bludgeoned or beaten to death while in the hands of a Maori "caregiver", parent or relative).

Thank God, the majority are wonderful people.

I make no apologies if I'm not painting a "rosy" picture of racial harmony in NZ. The "truth" is, they're generally seen as dole-bludging beneficiaries, untrustworthy troublemakers and a problem; If the "bad ones" (and there are many), were deported elsewhere, most of NZ would celebrate. Unless you live here, you wouldn't know.

(If I stated that publicly in NZ today, I'd probably start a Kiwi WWIII! :shielddeflect:)

In more recent times, it was discovered that possibly another group of pre-Maori fair-skinned settlers, had their origins traced back to Egypt (also wiped out by the Maori).

A couple of decades ago, skeletal remains of a small pygmy like race - again, pre-dating the arrival of the Maori to NZ - was discovered in the far North of New Zealand, and that fact has been obscured and hidden.

In New Zealand, any attempt to bring this truth into the open today is aggressively attacked and you're labelled a racist. (Where have we seen this before?) :silent:

BMJ
14th August 2016, 15:43
Hi Kiwielf,
Your welcome. I was looking into Egyptians in Australia predating Captain Cook and came across the celtic's in NZ very interesting stuff to. It seems these giant celtics where in Northern America and China also as noted here on Avalon. Some more stuff of possible interest below.

THE ANCIENT STANDING STONE SURVEYING TRIG AT OPITO BAY, COROMANDEL, NZ.

Link: http://www.celticnz.co.nz/Opito/OpitoStandingStones1.htm

http://www.celticnz.org/images/Opito/Opito%20Standing%20Stones.jpg

Monograph no. 10 of the New Zealand Archaeological Association, published 1979. Supplied from the archives of researcher, Gary Cook.

According to a learned Maori elder who has memorised the oral traditions of his iwi, the forebears to his people first arrived in New Zealand in the year 700 AD from India. Upon finding these shores, this branch of Ngati-kuri ancestors encountered a long-term resident population who were preoccupied with erecting stone markers on hills all across the country. The newcomers thus named the long established residents, "the surveyors".

Their surviving ancient handiwork can be anything from solitary obelisk boulders, smaller standing stone arrangements, stone-piled cairns, large earthen mound humps to sighting-pits or cliff-cut notches, etc. Many of these structures are on high hills or range crests, while others are in valleys. Each has a good view onto at least one or many horizon targets and each served an important surveying, astronomical or navigational function for the ancient society that erected it.

Some markers served a calendar-related function as solar observatories and still work perfectly. They were used to determine the exact days for the solstices or equinoxes and keeping the calendars running true. Yet others were primarily or solely for land-mapping over vast distances and were made up of a centre hubstone and circuits of satellite boulders that stood off from the central hub. In such cases, the hubstone would invariably orientate accurately onto a horizon target that provided a fix for true North, South, East or West. The far distant outer marker targets would be the highest mountain peaks or hill crowns in the region, at least one of which would provide the essential, primary degree angle by which all other degree angles could be precisely read through 360-degrees of vista.

The ancient surveyors had brought very profound mathematical knowledge with them from their lands of origin. They possessed highly refined measurement standards and shared an assortment of "cubits", "reeds" or "feet" rules with their many cousin nations. Measurements were standardised amongst the great civilisations and were all founded upon the selfsame inch.

At standing stone circles sites the ancient savants encoded their sciences by numbers, based upon a stone marker set at a measurable distance out from a hubstone and at a coded angle around from North. Both the distance and angle out from the hub would generate special factorable numbers related to cyclic astronomy, the lunisolar calendar, the equatorial size of the earth or systems of navigation and positional-plotting for safe traversals of the world's oceans.

Link: http://www.celticnz.co.nz/articles.html

Link: http://www.mysteriousaustralia.com/pyramid-sequel/chapter38.html

KiwiElf
14th August 2016, 15:54
Thanks BMJ - Coromandel isn't too far from me (I'm in Tauranga - very beautiful part of the Bay of Plenty).

Interesting that you mention China; I never followed this up, but I recall way back reading something about the Chinese actually discovering NZ long before ANYONE was here (like a good 600 years before). At the time, they weren't interested (too far away from everything :)). These days, it's a bit different ;)) - NZ has become a very multi-cultural society, with Chinese and Indian the current largest number of immigrants, mostly in Auckland. (Chinese account for roughly 27% of the Auckland population).

BMJ
14th August 2016, 17:24
Red Haired Mummies Of China

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_tuathadedanaan04.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_ciencia/tuathadedanaan04_05.jpg
A Tocharian man with red-blond hair; his clear European features still visible after nearly 3,500 years in his desert grave in China.

Ewan
14th August 2016, 18:51
... but I recall way back reading something about the Chinese actually discovering NZ long before ANYONE was here (like a good 600 years before). At the time, they weren't interested (too far away from everything :))....

That may have been referenced in "1421 - The Year China Discovered the World" by Gavin Menzies.


Rowan Gavin Paton Menzies (born 14 August 1937)[1] is a British author and retired submarine lieutenant-commander who has written books promoting claims that the Chinese sailed to America before Columbus. Historians have rejected Menzies' theories and assertions[2][3][4][5][6][7] and have categorised his work as pseudohistory.[8][9][10]

It was dismissed by the mainstream historians as evidenced by the Wiki reference above. As is always the case when one challenges the consensus. I personally found it fascinating regardless of the possible speculation within.

BMJ
13th April 2017, 13:50
As a follow on from the initial video: Skeletons in the Cupboard. Episode 2. Under The Carpet

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Published on 29 Aug 2016

This film is now available through Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/ondemand/undertheca...

Hidden under layers of volcanic ash, lava, sand and embargoes lie secrets that are being kept from the people of New Zealand. Gabi delves deep to find the truth about the earliest inhabitants of Polynesia. Watch this film to the end, you will be surprised by our conclusions.

Summary:
1.00 Recap of Cousins Across The Sea and Part 1 (see post #1)

6.00 The Tree Stump - Indicating the presence of man 30,000 - 60,000 years ago.

Australoids - From Africa:
- Vedda of Sri Lanka
- Andaman Islanders
- Ainu of Hokkhido Japan
- Surui, Karitiana, Xavante people of Brazil
Onge People:
- Australian aborginal
- Moriori of New Zealand

9.00 Natural Catasrophes - Tsunami and eruptions devasting these populations

16.45 The Chinese Connection (1421) - Chinese fort and ming dynasty diner plates

22.00 Remnants of the Chinese Junk - (Hemudu Culture) - 400 foot long junk carbon dated to 5963 years old

26.00 Dao culture of China, rock carvings - 4500 years old

28.00 Hindu presence - sanskrit and the hindu god Shiva lives on as the Kiwi god Kiwa

29.40 Standing Stones of the Surveyors (The Maui) - Author Martin Doutre - Large clay boulders aligning Silverdale Mound threw to Pukemore Hill

36.00 - Who was Maui? - Six ships sailed from Eygpt in 232BC, Manu region, during the reign of Ptolemy III to survey the world under Captain Rata and navigator Maui.

39.00 Evidence of Maui - The Polynesian Rat

43.20 Under The Carpet - The debunking done by Bruce McFadgen

47.00 Moa Diner - Evidence of civilisation 3000 - 7000 years old

50.00 Summary - History of movements of civilizations globally, summary of the series.

BMJ
13th April 2017, 13:58
Mentioned above @ 29.40

Evidence of Pre-Maori Civilisations In New Zealand? Martin Doutre at Uncensored Symposium

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Published on 7 Sep 2011

I know I'm probably going to get a lot of abuse for putting this up, so I want to make it perfectly clear that I am not racist, this is not meant to be offensive and if you are offended or shocked by this presentation then that makes 2 of us.
I'm offended that this information is not widely available and I'm shocked how much New Zealand has been kept in the dark about our early history.
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BMJ
13th April 2017, 14:20
The Atlantis Connection

The red haired giants and blonde haired fairies predate the Maori's. The red haired giants (standing between 7 to 9 foot tall) fleed ancient Persia, Iran, and were being decimated by the Hudus civilization.

The blonde haired fairies - were about 4 foot tall and lived in burrows. Genetic testing inidcates there orgins as being ancient Celtic.

The cataclysm that befell Atlantis caused the survivors to flee by any means in all directions from what was Atlantis.

The survivors are now know as:
- The Basque of France/Spain (Euskara)
- Berber of North Africa (Amazigh)
- Celtic (Gaelic)
- The now extinct Guanches of the Canary Islands

Rh- Negative Blood and Antediluvian Civilizations (Robert Sepehr)

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Published on 23 Jun 2016

Nestled in the mountains between France and Spain, there is a semi-isolated population of native European people that have long puzzled anthropologists, linguists, and historians, because although they are Caucasoid, they do not fit in with the rest of the European populations. Robert Sepehr is an author, producer and anthropologist specializing in linguistics, archeology, and paleobiology (archeogenetics). http://amazon.com/Robert-Sepehr/e/B00...

The Antediluvian (alternatively Pre-Diluvian or Pre-Flood or even Tertiary) period—meaning "before the deluge"—is the time period referred to in the Bible between the Fall of man and the Noachian Deluge (the Genesis Flood) in the biblical cosmology.

Robert Sepehr is an author and anthropologist specializing in linguistics, archeology, and paleobiology (archeogenetics). http://amazon.com/Robert-Sepehr/e/B00...

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