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ThePythonicCow
11th March 2016, 09:53
I hold these things to be self-evident (of Bastards, Jesuits, Jews, and Babylonians)

If some elaborate and deeply entwined aspect of humanity persists for many thousands of years, past the rise and fall of civilizations and religions, then it reflects some deeply embedded organizing principle of human civilization (perhaps not a good or essential principle, however.)

If some deeply coordinated intrigues and manipulations impose themselves over human affairs for many centuries, past the rise and fall of empires, and economies, outlasting the lifespan of dozens of the most powerful. then they have at their core some combination of closely managed family lines, and/or one or more disciplined, hierarchically controlled and self-perpetuating organizations, operating in relative secrecy, behind the various public persona and institutions charged with carrying out their orders and coerced or manipulated into submission.

If such vast power resides in the hands of a few, at any one time, then the crown of such tyranny does not rest easily on their heads, and there shall be infighting, divisions, specializations, and such.

No large population of humanity, of whatever creed, race, gender, nationality, age, status or whatever has the coherence and discipline to be any such disciplined family line or organization. However such a family line or organization may well find it serves its ends well to preferentially select many of its actors from a particular such population, or even to select from several such populations and set one against the other.

The (1) common law of free people, respecting the inalienable rights of all humans, is fundamentally at conflict with the (2) contract law of the Babylonians, as has been passed down to us through the Pharisees, the Knights Templar, the Venetian Bankers, the Jesuits and Illuminati, and into present times as the law (e.g. UCC) governing contracts between any corporation, nation or individual, and as the debt-money monetary system imposed on human commerce.

The (1) Jesuits, connected with the Catholic Church at the Vatican and the (2) Rothschilds, connected with the British Crown and The City of London, are closely entwined with each other, in principles, finances and intrigue. The American Empire centered in Washington DC and the Israeli nation are newer manifestations of this ancient tradition, handling at times key portions of the military, monetization, and colonization duties, and managing the narcotics, energy, chemical and pharmaceutical duties of this heritage. For a good part of the previous century, the American Empire also handled the largest industrialization burden.

The debt-money system is being shifted, to a two-tiered system, using resource backed lending, with an honored position for gold reserves, between nations, and debt-money within each nation, each in their respective national currencies. American hegemony and its monetary, military and narcotic empire are crumbling. China is taking a lead role in the industrial and financial capacity, and Russia in the military and energy capacity, of this new iteration of a world order.

All races, creeds, nationalities, ... come in various forms - tall, short, fat, thin, old, young, smart, foolish, strong, weak, honest, conniving, believing, skeptical, expert in a wide diversity of specialties, or none at all. However, there are statistical differences between different groups of people as well. An East African is more likely to win the Boston Marathon, and a West African is more likely to win the Olympic 100m sprint. Furthermore the manipulative schemes of those continuing the traditions of Babylon commonly play up one group of people against the other, encouraging the most susceptible of one group to pursue ends most likely to outrage another group.

Thus it is that considerably more dastardly and evil leaders, money lenders, and other key players in the Western history over the last couple of millenia have Jewish ancestry than random odds would predict. It's not a Jewish plot; races don't plot. Controlled family lines perpetuate the breeding and raising of conniving individuals, and tightly controlled organizations can execute complex schemes over long periods of time. However those schemes sometimes involve deliberately type casting key roles, both stereotyping as to likely abilities, associations and family membership, as well as fanning the flames of fear, hatred and prejudice between races, creeds, genders, classes and any other distinction that can be played up.

Thus it is that most Americans either do not (I trust) support the abuses of the American Empire, or do so only out of ignorance (an ignorance much encouraged by widespread propaganda in many forms). Similarly it is that most Jews do not (I trust) support the abuses of the Neocon-Zionist elite in Palestine or behind such false flags as 9/11, or the war crimes committed in the name of 9/11 by the Israel and American military-intelligence complex since then, or the massive financial frauds committed against humanity for centuries at least.

In short, large groups of people do not carry out complex, multi-generational, deeply entangled schemes. It takes tightly controlled family lines or organizations, that can out last any particular leader, to accomplish such schemes, and that can continue to raise and train in its ranks the fresh blood required to carry on such traditions and schemes.

But family lines and organizations holding immense power are inherently fraught with internal conflict, as those most hungry for power jockey for position, and as the organization adapts to changing circumstances and fortune.

Core principles, such as a Satanic lust for power over one's fellow human, and core mechanisms, such as debt-money, contract law and monotheistic churches, provide the common threads that run through a long chain of such oppressors of humanity, dating back at least to the times of Babylon. These principles and mechanisms may well come to humanity via the Hidden Hands of other species, more ancient and technically advanced than we humans.

The above mentioned decline and collapse of the American hegemony over debt-money, military might, drug trafficking, and (already in deep decline) economic and industrial might is not going smoothly however. Such immense changes seldom do. It is most difficult, for us mice at the feet of rampaging elephants, to understand how affairs "up there" are going, and whether or not our best efforts to tend to the well being of ourselves and our friends, neighbors, relatives, loved ones and pets will bear little or much fruit.

But our efforts will surely bear some fruit, if this planet and its support for rich life continue at all, and likely these evils that oppress humanity will persist as well, for time immemorial.

Next up - the widespread collapse of the American Dollar as the world's reserve currency. With this will be a substantial, but not total, economic collapse. As the elite learned the hard way in the Wiemar Republic in Germany in the 1920's, people are hard to control when their economy collapses almost totally. The Dollar must fall, America must face a form of bankruptcy, and its vast land and mineral resources "privatized" (sold at fire sale prices as part of the bankruptcy proceedings, most of which will be, or already have been, held behind closed doors.) They (the Bastards in power) are trying to herd us, but also trying hard to avoid terrorizing us to the point that our herd instincts disintegrate (though on an individual basis, they sometimes do feast on the adrenalin enriched blood of terrorized victims.)

We will persist, each in the various ways we are able, as best we can, to do what we can for ourselves and those near us. That is our destiny and responsibility, just as it is the destiny and responsibility of a blade of grass to crack the concrete sidewalk. Regardless of how great or little, how soon or delayed, will be our success by some external metric, we continue to seek out the light, the water and nutrients, the communication with others, the perpetuation of our species and spirit.

Such is life.

Hawkwind
11th March 2016, 11:22
and this too shall pass.

Sunny-side-up
11th March 2016, 12:16
Core principles, such as a Satanic lust for power over one's fellow human, and core mechanisms, such as debt-money, contract law and monotheistic churches, provide the common threads that run through a long chain of such oppressors of humanity, dating back at least to the times of Babylon. These principles and mechanisms may well come to humanity via the Hidden Hands of other species, more ancient and technically advanced than we humans.

The above mentioned decline and collapse of the American hegemony over debt-money, military might, drug trafficking, and (already in deep decline) economic and industrial might is not going smoothly however. Such immense changes seldom do. It is most difficult, for us mice at the feet of rampaging elephants, to understand how affairs "up there" are going, and whether or not our best efforts to tend to the well being of ourselves and our friends, neighbors, relatives, loved ones and pets will bear little or much fruit.

But our efforts will surely bear some fruit, if this planet and its support for rich life continue at all, and likely these evils that oppress humanity will persist as well, for time immemorial.

It's all there Paul, peeking through the Oculted (Must not read-must not know about) media, peeking through the Old Established MSM controlled history.
But we have and see the enlightened, awakened (so called Alt) but to us true)) media wealth of knowledge that has slipped through their attempts to keep us enslaved in all aspects of life on this planet.

kirolak
11th March 2016, 18:28
Honestly, please just take a look at your "Headline". :thumbsdown:

How bigoted that sounds! Is this what you meant? JEWS . . WHICH Jews, in particular?? Vladimir Horowitz? Tal Hurwitz? A. Bashevis Singer? (Google if you don't recognize the names, please !) I am not Jewish, but I work for Jews, who have been both good & caring as well as vile & rejecting towards me - exactly the same as any other human group.


http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.678801
What about these jews??

And bastards? Do you mean those who have no legal father's name? I'm one.

We play this eternal Game, sometimes the victor, sometimes the victim, according to mere hearsay. It's all just noise.

Jesuits? Do you know any personally? (I don't, I was taken from my land of birth at an early age.) I don't mean to single the OP out, it's but lately there have been so many generalisations. It's so generic, these posts could be written by a bot.

ThePythonicCow
11th March 2016, 19:41
Honestly, please just take a look at your "Headline". :thumbsdown:
A key intention of my post was to bring some clarity to just the confusions and bigotries you refer to.

Yes, my headline is more towards "click bait" than I usually do or recommend.

But I hope you will find my actual post to be more reasonable.

In my defense, such words as "bastards" and "Jews" are words, and can be used, with clarification as to meaning as needed. I hope that my opening post provides that clarification for "Jews".

I perhaps should have clarified my use of "bastards" in the opening post as well. I have taken to calling who ever are the most powerful, and in my estimation, wicked, beings on this planet the "Bastards in Power". Here I am using the word "bastard" in the sense of "an unpleasant or despicable person", rather than in the sense of "a person born of parents not married to each other". Both senses are proper definitions of the word, at least in the dictionary in which I just looked.

Calz
11th March 2016, 23:10
Honestly, please just take a look at your "Headline". :thumbsdown:
A key intention of my post was to bring some clarity to just the confusions and bigotries you refer to.

Yes, my headline is more towards "click bait" than I usually do or recommend.

But I hope you will find my actual post to be more reasonable.

In my defense, such words as "bastards" and "Jews" are words, and can be used, with clarification as to meaning as needed. I hope that my opening post provides that clarification for "Jews".

I perhaps should have clarified my use of "bastards" in the opening post as well. I have taken to calling who ever are the most powerful, and in my estimation, wicked, beings on this planet the "Bastards in Power". Here I am using the word "bastard" in the sense of "an unpleasant or despicable person", rather than in the sense of "a person born of parents not married to each other". Both senses are proper definitions of the word, at least in the dictionary in which I just looked.


Paul your OP was spot on.

We need to start standing up for free speech as the global PC brainwashing is starting to damage our ability to communicate.

Soup
12th March 2016, 00:46
Paul, sadly your click-bait headline in itself still translates as 'Unpleasant, despicable people in power, Jesuits (all not some), Jews (all not some), and Babylonians. The list starts with a negative so the whole line, despite your 'clarification', does read as 'I don't like them Jews'.
Sorry, you may have felt it a neat device, but it is still crass and clumsy. Hope you can see that. Smile.

Caliban
12th March 2016, 01:48
Thus it is that considerably more dastardly and evil leaders, money lenders, and other key players in the Western history over the last couple of millenia have Jewish ancestry than random odds would predict. It's not a Jewish plot; races don't plot. Controlled family lines perpetuate the breeding and raising of conniving individuals, and tightly controlled organizations can execute complex schemes over long periods of time. However those schemes sometimes involve deliberately type casting key roles, both stereotyping as to likely abilities, associations and family membership, as well as fanning the flames of fear, hatred and prejudice between races, creeds, genders, classes and any other distinction that can be played up.



Oh, no, it's not a Jewish plot. Only that "more dastardly and evil leaders, money lenders, and other key players in the Western history over the last couple of millenia have Jewish ancestry than random odds would predict." This is not only false and disingenuously phrased, it's race (or religion) baiting and verging on disgusting. Why not quote from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

And this is from an Administrator of this site. Wow. Stopping pretty low there.

Calz
12th March 2016, 02:21
removed ... not my battle ...

Carmody
12th March 2016, 04:10
I'm Jewish by blood, I'm not offended. Not in the slightest.*

Nor should anyone else be.

That would be deflecting the argument into emotional ditches, a common discussion derailing tactic.

*(OK, partially Jewish, or of that genetic backdrop)

RunningDeer
12th March 2016, 04:42
If you follow Paul’s posts across threads, you’re familiar with his writing style. Ex: “the bastards in power” as defined as bloodsucking ******* ********. (sorry for the colorful language)

Myself, I thought it was a powerful OP. So much so that this morning, I turned it into a pdf and uploaded it to my Kindle. The last paragraph rounded out the piece. Which is why I labeled the pdf file “Destiny of a Blade of Grass”.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Paul_zpssvjew4kl.jpg

RunningDeer ♡

ThePythonicCow
12th March 2016, 05:19
Interested readers should know that posts #7 and #8 do not reflect what I wrote, but rather the polar opposite.

As expected, some have come forth to shame us into not calling out certain elite families and secret societies. They do this by wrongfully claiming that we are attacking large groups of humanity, when what we are actually doing is the exact opposite, standing up for humanity and denouncing our common oppressors, those whom I call the Bastards in Power.

I do not know whether the gross errors of posts #7 and #8 are intentional, for I cannot read the minds of strangers on the Web. But regardless of intent, such gross errors serve better the aims of the Bastards in Power than they serve the aims of humanity.

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The Bastards are masters of misdirection and subversion, so appear as a variety of organizations, sometimes conflicting each other, even though both sides are covertly funded and guided by the same Bastards, working in collusion.

It is probably wrong to say that the Bastards are primarily and specifically one or the other of the Freemasons, Jesuits, Zionists, Neocons, Knights of Malta, Knights Templar, Rothschilds, Illuminati, Banksters, Hermeticists, Rosicrucians, Luciferians, Satanists, ... or whatever, for these are but some of the elite families and secret societies and other such organizations that were formed by, or subsequently controlled or manipulated by, or used as cover for, these Bastards in Power. However some of these elite families and secret societies (such as I suspect the Jesuits) have had greater or longer lasting power than others.

The Bastards are masters in disguising themselves, in reinventing themselves, and in manipulating others.

As evidence of this last claim above, consider this portion of the The Jesuit Oath (http://www.remnantofgod.org/jes-oth.htm):


My son, heretofore you have been taught to act the dissembler: among Roman Catholics to be a Roman Catholic, and to be a spy even among your own brethren; to believe no man, to trust no man. Among the Reformers, to be a reformer; among the Huguenots, to be a Huguenot; among the Calvinists, to be a Calvinist; among other Protestants, generally to be a Protestant, and obtaining their confidence, to seek even to preach from their pulpits, and to denounce with all the vehemence in your nature our Holy Religion and the Pope; and even to descend so low as to become a Jew among Jews, that you might be enabled to gather together all information for the benefit of your Order as a faithful soldier of the Pope.

You have been taught to insidiously plant the seeds of jealousy and hatred between communities, provinces, states that were at peace, and incite them to deeds of blood, involving them in war with each other, and to create revolutions and civil wars in countries that were independent and prosperous, cultivating the arts and the sciences and enjoying the blessings of peace. To take sides with the combatants and to act secretly with your brother Jesuit, who might be engaged on the other side, but openly opposed to that with which you might be connected, only that the Church might be the gainer in the end, in the conditions fixed in the treaties for peace and that the end justifies the means.

You have been taught your duty as a spy, to gather all statistics, facts and information in your power from every source; to ingratiate yourself into the confidence of the family circle of Protestants and heretics of every class and character, as well as that of the merchant, the banker, the lawyer, among the schools and universities, in parliaments and legislatures, and the judiciaries and councils of state, and to be all things to all men, for the Pope's sake, whose servants we are unto death.

The fertile soil on which these Bastards flourish is humanity itself, for we humans have spiritual and occult powers that we don't realize we have. As such, we are susceptible to manipulation by artisans of the black arts. We do not know our own power. We have formed the fertile ground on which the Bastards work their black magic.

With power comes responsibility. Let us stand together for life, liberty and the pursuit of our full potential.

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One of my earlier points deserves repetition. Large groups of people do not plot. They cannot scheme effectively for sustained periods. Only tightly knit and controlled families and societies, operating more or less in secret, with a well defined structure and strong leadership, can carry out the multi-generational, trans-national, trans-religion,, trans-cultural, operations that beset humanity. This I hold to be self-evident.

thunder24
12th March 2016, 06:14
was the original op heated and rileing... of course it was...
does the majority of avalon understand what is meant ...even though their definition of certain terms is contradictory of what was used in the op ... of course...
do we all get upset and flamed at certain times in life, wether be the stars influence, the moons influence, personal events inlflunece, passions influence, drugs.alcohol.chemistrys influence... of course we do... communication is about dialoge... paul says jews, i say askenazi... should we know what was meant .... we should, but we choose to be offended because it doesn't fit in our box of definition... I AM GUILTY... ARE YOU? You think not then speak up....and explain in an un-imflammatory way...

Carmody has said in the past paraphraseing... " be willing to sacrifice all".... that means different things to different people... I see Paul's, our admin, our mod, to be doing that in a sense by the o.p.... REASON he is putting his heart out on here in the o.p. if it sparks one to look deeper it did its job... and, not like paul is hididng from anyone, if you know electronics have a signiture then you know he is tracked...just for being an admin...

we are all frustrated, and if we are not, then we are enlightened and have no need to post on here other then to share.... if you are reactive, then your not being proactive... (not saying I am, just saying what I observe)

Expand vocabulary and the mind, and mayb offense isn't taken when we can all meet at a common ground, which i think avalon is supposed to be that common ground... look beyond rhetoric and find the common ground... I AM TALKING TO MYSELF AS MUCH AS ANYONE READING THIS...PEACE

Bluegreen
12th March 2016, 07:10
Thank you for posting
Bastards in Power is quite descriptive
Clifford Stone has some alliteration:
Cowards in Power

ThePythonicCow
12th March 2016, 07:41
paul says jews, i say askenazi
My modest understanding is that there are several roots to modern day Judaism, including the Ashkenazic Jews who supposedly began with a mass conversion in the Khazar kingdom in the north Caucasus, and migrated from there especially into France, Germany , Poland and other parts of northern and central Europe, but who actually may have roots far deeper in such areas of Europe, according to this (http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/37821/title/Genetic-Roots-of-the-Ashkenazi-Jews/) report. By some reports that I read, it is the Ashkenazic Jews who have been more likely to strive to keep a separate tradition and community, and to honor Talmudic law ... but this is not an area that I know very well.

According to this reference (http://www.jewfaq.org/ashkseph.htm), other sub-groups of Jews include the Sephardic Jews, who descend from Jews in Spain, Portugal, North Africa and the Middle East, and the Mizrachi Jews, who descend from Jews in North Africa and the Middle East

I think that it was the Sephardic Jews who came from (were expelled from?) Babylon (roughly Iraq now) about a thousand years ago, and moved across the Mediterranean, North Africa and Southern Europe, including into Spain. Venice was one of the leading city-states of Europe, especially between about 1200 and 1800 AD. As described in this interesting piece, Jewish Ghetto of Venice (http://www.reidsitaly.com/destinations/veneto/venice/sights/ghetto.html), the Sephardic Jews joined with the Ashkenazic and other Jews there.

The main Catholic religion at the time in Venice prohibited usury, providing the Jewish community in Venice an important role, as money lenders. This tradition of money lending and contract based law goes back a long way, to at least the ancient Babylonians, hence the name "Babylonians" in this thread's title. Venice and Genoa were the leading financial centers of Europe for a while, with Venice eventually outdoing Genoa. The same monetary traditions (the power of lending to Kings, and such) were then brought north to Amsterdam, and across the Channel to London.

In my view, debt-money, contract law, and corporations have formed key roles in enslaving humanity for thousands of years, and various Jewish sub-groups have contributed or had drafted from their ranks more than their proportionate share of judges, money changes, bankers and financiers participating in these institutions.

Please, however, if you can't or won't understand the difference between (1) a greater proportion of Bankers have Jewish ancestry than of the world population [True, I am pretty sure], and (2) Most Jews are Bankers [False] or All Bankers are Jews [False] ... then please don't pollute this thread with your confusions on that matter, at least. Thank-you.

Such is one of many examples of whereby a "chosen people", by fortune, opportunity, choice, talent, or sometimes the Hidden Hand of selection, end up being overly represented in one area (whether that be a profession, economic class, or geographic region), or under represented in some other area. The world is not homogenized, nor can nor should it be. Such variations are one way or the other always present, and will remain so.

I hope to re-read Joseph P Farrell's books "Babylon's Banksters" and "Financial Vipers of Venice" again soon. They were amongst the earliest books I read in this area, and I lacked the contextual reading at the time to entirely relate to whatever he might have written, or hinted at in these books. From what I can tell, Farrell hardly ever mentions "Jesuit" at all, and only briefly mentions "Jewish" a bit more, but only in narrow and specific contexts. Farrell certainly chooses not to be the "grand conspiracy nutcase" that I might be inclined towards, on such matters.

thunder24
12th March 2016, 09:30
paul says jews, i say askenazi

Please, however, if you can't or won't understand the difference between (1) a greater proportion of Bankers have Jewish ancestry than of the world population [True, I am pretty sure], and (2) Most Jews are Bankers [False] or All Bankers are Jews [False] ... then please don't pollute this thread with your confusions on that matter, at least. Thank-you.
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If the above was directed at me, wow , you got it...sorry if I added pollution and confusion to the thread... was the furtherst thing from my intention...

if not you still got it...

waves
12th March 2016, 17:51
I think one of the main reasons for the success of the bastards without conscience is their lustful willingness to take advantage of people with conscience who have a strong aversion to falsely accusing. This thread quickly showed how people with conscience are triggered easily to defend fellow innocents, but often overreact righteously to selective phrases instead of bothering to understand the whole context also stated.

I think this simple dynamic underlies history's whole problem - people with conscience are willing to subjugate themselves for the greater good, refusing to falsely accuse until some truth is proven, but proof never comes and the clever obfuscaters of truth muddy it more and more, keeping history's biggest truths for themselves in their behind closed doors societies.

Point is, I am just as sick and tired as Paul of being afraid to offend and tip-toeing around the evidence. The only way to reclaim power is to say the truth loud and clear, be open to corrections and face the ugliness we have allowed to flourish because of being too weak to call it out. Conscience does not have to equal weakness.

Darla Ken Pearce
12th March 2016, 20:55
Bravo, Paul ~ I am impressed by your thoughtful article. It fairly shouts an eloquence that has brightened my day significantly.

Many thanks for taking the time to write it and share your thoughts on these important matters.

Blessings! Light/Love/Joy/Grace

ThePythonicCow
13th March 2016, 03:02
If the above was directed at me ...
It was not directed at you ... sorry. It was others who, earlier, had confused the differences I listed.

Shannon
13th March 2016, 04:33
I liked your OP a lot, Paul and appreciate the effort you put into posting it.

*sigh....I just truly get let down when some of our smart members fall into the "offended" routine. There's been a few important threads posted recently on just that problem (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89373-The-Orwellian-destruction-of-language-is-happening-right-now&p=1052667#post1052667), and WE the members of avalon would benefit from not falling for that "you said Jews! You hate jews!" trap...

Peeps, read the content and forget the title. The title is important and you'll see that if you read the post fully. Does that really have to be said? I'm not the brightest crayon in the box but I know a Jew hater when I see one.... Ain't none of that here. :/

norman
29th October 2023, 12:22
You can't not notice . . . . seriously. But who are they . . . .really?

"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but do lie — behold, I will make them to come and worship at thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee". - Yesu

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