UFO Hunters TV show was getting close to the truth, then the show was axed

[mojo]

This reminds me of the Hunting for Hitler show getting close to the trail of truth and ended. Bill Birnes of UFO hunter interview on C2C & explains what happened. Sorry if this was posted before.

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[Spellbound]

I listened to this last week and it really does strike a chord. The human head on a baby cow story was intriguing. Interesting how they were beating The Daily show in ratings when they were axed.

Dave - Toronto

[wnlight]

I have been aware that the show was squashed after the Dulce episode. Just too much information was being released.

[Bill Ryan]

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The Dulce episode of UFO Hunters, called Underground Alien Bases, was S03E02 (3rd season, 2nd episode). It's been removed from YouTube (as best as I could see), but I was able to download it on a torrent.

Bill Birnes explains to George Knapp in the Coast to Coast interview in post #1 that the reason the series was axed, besides high production costs, was that they got way too close to something that was off-limits for public disclosure — when New Mexico State Trooper Gabe Valdez (who has previously appeared many times with Linda Howe) appeared in the episode to show his photos of a mutilated pregnant cow, where the fetus appeared to have a human head.

I was unable to find those photos on the internet, so I extracted the 6:28 min section where Gabe Valdez shows the anomalous (an understatement! :facepalm: ) cow fetus, found in the mutilated animal. It's a little hard to see exactly what the thing is, but it sure doesn't look like a baby cow.

The clip in high resolution (.MOV format) can be downloaded here till 19 March:

http://we.tl/D3NxIYkVdG (http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwe.tl%2FD3NxIYkVdG&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFsWeKsh3ffYSYT3w7_QwAy-NpE5Q) (48 Mb)

Bill Birnes also talks with Whitley Strieber about the same thing (the human-headed cow fetus, and why the show was axed), here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gmHW3tu-Y4
That's just a 10 minute extract... the entire 90 minute conversation with Whitley Strieber (published 13 Feb 2010) can be downloaded here:
http://archive.org/details/UFO_Hunter_-_Bill_Birnes

I'll take some screenshots of the fetus head, and post them here later. The movie clip shows them pretty well, but because of deliberately dramatic 'wobbly camera' effects, you have to stop the video at various points to take a really good look at it when it's not moving around on the screen.

[Bill Ryan]

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Here are six screenshots from the 6:28 minute clip I posted above (downloadable here (http://we.tl/D3NxIYkVdG) till 19 March).

http://projectavalon.net/Gabe_Valdez_UFO_Hunters_S03E02_human_headed_cow_fetus_4.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/Gabe_Valdez_UFO_Hunters_S03E02_human_headed_cow_fetus_5.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/Gabe_Valdez_UFO_Hunters_S03E02_human_headed_cow_fetus_6.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/Gabe_Valdez_UFO_Hunters_S03E02_human_headed_cow_fetus_1_sm.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/Gabe_Valdez_UFO_Hunters_S03E02_human_headed_cow_fetus_2_sm.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/Gabe_Valdez_UFO_Hunters_S03E02_human_headed_cow_fetus_3_sm.jpg

The three photos Gabe Valdez showed can be viewed/downloaded here in full resolution. (The ones above are reduced to fit the Avalon page). I've not yet been able to find them elsewhere on the internet. Gabe Valdez states that the round, white object in the third photo is a human ear.


http://projectavalon.net/Gabe_Valdez_UFO_Hunters_S03E02_human_headed_cow_fetus_1_lg.jpg
http://projectavalon.net/Gabe_Valdez_UFO_Hunters_S03E02_human_headed_cow_fetus_2_lg.jpg
http://projectavalon.net/Gabe_Valdez_UFO_Hunters_S03E02_human_headed_cow_fetus_3_lg.jpg

[Bill Ryan]

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Bill Birnes talks in detail to C2C host George Knapp about that Dulce episode at 22:44 in this video. He talks specifically about the Gabe Valdez portion of the show at 24:00, saying that there was "a big discussion" at the History Channel whether to air the photos or not.

Most interestingly, Birnes mentions when that when Valdez first came across the dead animal, there was a helicopter with strange markings on it hovering over the mutilated cow, which then flew off quickly. He also said (25:20) that the fetus had a human hand.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a43MWRxviY

[mojo]

Its really sad there is no oversight on creating up to 50% animal-human chimera.

[Althena]

What would be the point of creating this abomination? What purpose would it serve and for whom??

[Bill Ryan]

What would be the point of creating this abomination? What purpose would it serve and for whom??
Excellent questions. At 26:07 in the Coast to Coast interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a43MWRxviY) in post #1, Birnes tells George Knapp:




Now we go to Andros Island, it’s later in the Spring, we’re on Andros Island, and we’re told: “Wow, the ratings are so high, you guys, I hope you settle in for two more seasons.”

Now we go out to Long Island, and we’re going to talk about Brookhaven. And there is a strange person, a very sartorial gentleman, introduces himself to me off-camera, asks if we can sit down and have a chat some morning, lives in the area, love to talk to you, grab some coffee.

We do that, and he tells me: “This is your last season, by the way.”

I’m surprised: “Why? Why is that?”

He says: “Well, on one hand, when you were at Area 51 last year, the Tikaboo Peak segment where you climbed up Tikaboo Peak and shot that high-intensity camera on that big hangar at sunrise, you got a lot of people mad. But what REALLY got people mad was when you were sitting in that hotel room over McCarran Airport reading the tail numbers on the Janet airline jets, then running those tail numbers through the FAA database, and saying these Janet airline planes belong to the federal government, and they were headed out to Area 51. THAT got a lot of people even more angry.

"So on the one hand, that was your last strike — until you guys aired that crazy Dulce photograph. Don’t you know that the toes you stepped on, when you aired that photograph, were so big, you were in an area... it’s almost like: YOU DON’T WANNA DO THIS. Back away from this. These people are bigger then you, meaner than you, uglier than you, and it’s not about UFOs. So, this is the end of you guys, so enjoy your season.”

[Segment ends at 28:10]

And sure enough, within a week they were told they were going off the air.

[Foxie Loxie]

Sounds like we're getting to the point our ancestors did & perhaps that was the reason the "gods" had to start all over again? Thanks for posting all this, Bill. Wouldn't you know I entirely missed that episode!!

[Hazelfern]

Thank you for posting, a tantalizing discussion with both Whitley and George.
What I have gathered about these abominations, look no further that a way to make
a buck and life extension for the twisted.

[Bill Ryan]

Thank you for posting, a tantalizing discussion with both Whitley and George.
What I have gathered about these abominations, look no further that a way to make
a buck and life extension for the twisted.

Yes... that's interesting to consider. Bill Birnes appeared fairly persuaded that this was a Big Pharma high-tech, super-secret, super-Machiavellian scenario that they'd accidentally stumbled on.

But what makes no sense to me, if that were the only thing happening (using cows for in vitro fertilization in conjunction with a bunch of other high-tech magic), is — why then leave (or drop) the mutilated carcasses out in the open where they can easily be found, resulting in a big, public mystery?

There's plenty of room in underground bases for large herds of cows. :) They could be doing anything they wanted to cows (and calves), way, way out of anyone's sight... and so-one would never know.

[Hazelfern]

Good question Bill, always making me think further.
Maybe they don't want to see their own 'stink'. Leave it for the topsiders to deal with?
Like we pitch our chicken (and cow) bones in a land fill.
Or, let's play with their heads and see if they can figure it out.
Just for sport, we are bored down here.

[wnlight]

Bill
"... why then leave (or drop) the mutilated carcasses out in the open where they can easily be found, resulting in a big, public mystery?"
They do this to create fear of UFOs. There has been some connection between UFOs and the mutilations in the press - most likely caused by the USA military.

[Peace of Mind]

Bill
"... why then leave (or drop) the mutilated carcasses out in the open where they can easily be found, resulting in a big, public mystery?"
They do this to create fear of UFOs. There has been some connection between UFOs and the mutilations in the press - most likely caused by the USA military.

To distract and cause confusion, To have people wondering and fantasizing. Part of clever propaganda tactics being used to set up the finale. The Tel-lie-vision is used for conditioning, where subtle truths are easily hidden and only used for the "bait and switch". The TV world is well organized and controlled...for the sole purpose of creating mindsets and enforcing unhealthy imaginations. You won't see much of anything you see on the tv in your actual real life...not unless you subconsciously accept and allow it to materialize (due to the amount of attention giving to the idea). like the saying goes.."The revolution will not be televised". and for very good reason.

Peace

[Ewan]

Forgive me for possibly mentioning that which you all already know, for as usual I have no source but vague memories of reading about it. Foxie Loxie brought it to mind sharply.

Writings on the destruction of Atlantis. All our mythological beasts, the Centaur, Manticore, Minotaur etc. were born not from fantasy but memory. Memory of a time when Atlanteans had developed their knowledge of DNA to the point they could create all manner of creature by cross-breeding. Further they could transfer their conciousness and experience life in that body. It was a game to them. Inter-special copulation was also common as when the 'creature' has the mind of a human that thinks he is on a par with deity then they can do as they wish.

There were three groups of people. The 'Civil Service' type, the Scientists, and 'Natural' farmers. It was the scientist class that caused the destruction, boring into the earth to steal the energy of the planet and harnessing the power of crystal arrays without genuine understanding. The politics/civil servants were mired in paperwork, regulations etc and all their time was spent merely following their own dictates and accomplishing nothing. The farmers had turned their backs on everyone else and gone back to nature, permaculture if you like. The scientists gloried in their own superiority of mind and ventured where angels fear to tread.

So yes, it really does appear we are approaching the point of making the same mistakes. As we apparently experiment with DNA against all regulations just because we can. We are about to descend further into vitrtual reality than hitherto thought possible via mass-produced headsets as science talks about the potential for transferring conciousness. We also apparently play with the ionosphere and entire atmosphere of the planet exulting in how clever we are.

It seems we are fundamentally idiots, collectively speaking.

[Hervé]

The first I ran into mentioning some of the above was Edgar Cayce and his readings about Atlantis (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_cayce_3.htm).

[Ewan]

The first I ran into mentioning some of the above was Edgar Cayce and his readings about Atlantis (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_cayce_3.htm).

That looks familiar, I'll be reading it again. Thanks.

[Hervé]

Yep, the original material is definitely from Edgar Cayce and his descriptions of the use of the "Temple of Sacrifice" and "Temple of Beauty":

... Edgar Evans Cayce explains [Edgar Cayce's son]: Evidently, besides low mental development and/or lack of moral judgment and selfcontrol, some people classed as servants or "things" or "automatons" had physical deformities linking them to the animal world. They may have had tails, feathers, or scales. This was a holdover from the early projection of souls into materiality for selfish purposes at which time monstrosities as well as creatures of beauty were created."

The above from here: http://www.thesonsofthelawofone.com/atlanteansons.html

IIRC my own ancient reading of some of Cayce's books, those "things" were used for the "pleasure" of the ruling class... ultimate slaves and considered soulless... the usual excuse for all war atrocities, henceforth...

Any resemblance to current events is, of course purely coincidental, etc... makes one wonder if, truly, Atlantis has not actually arisen out of its watery grave and re-incarnated into this current "civilization"...

[conk]

Linda Howe sealed it for me when she discovered that the ground under mutilated cows was compressed, as if dropped from 150 feet. From a UFO or black helicopter?

[Inversion]

Bill Birnes knows his stuff and is an aggressive investigator. I saw one show where he was on the perimeter of the Dugway Proving Ground and a security vehicle showed up. He was really pushing the envelope.

[amor]

It has occurred to me that all of these genetic monstrosities are a horrible method of determining which genes produce which body parts. Originally, this may have been done in an entirely technical way and the being's genes were selected and put together on a computer which by then had a biological interface. Look at the beauty and color of birds. These were designed by an artist, it was not happenstance. The creation of the biosphere was a computer creation which worked like a fine balance until the Flood when the food system for all life broke down and animals started to eat each other. In the garden of Eden, there was no meat eating between the animals. The Anunnaki had designed everything using their computer disks called the M's if I recall correctly. Whatever they were called they had instructions for doing everything and these were disks. I extrapolate that to their having had computers. When you see what appears to be a wilderness of plants, the very fact that it exists shows that it has continued the balance of give and take of nutrients and insects created originally by the computer. This is why Monocultures like Monsanto's require all sorts of chemicals. They are scientists without imagination. The poor cattle deserve to be treated with greater kindness than man doles out to them. Their wombs are being used to develop the genetically patched together creatures they are designing into existence. I can say more, but I do not wish to give them any of my ideas.

[7alon]

Thank you for posting, a tantalizing discussion with both Whitley and George.
What I have gathered about these abominations, look no further that a way to make
a buck and life extension for the twisted.

Yes... that's interesting to consider. Bill Birnes appeared fairly persuaded that this was a Big Pharma high-tech, super-secret, super-Machiavellian scenario that they'd accidentally stumbled on.

But what makes no sense to me, if that were the only thing happening (using cows for in vitro fertilization in conjunction with a bunch of other high-tech magic), is — why then leave (or drop) the mutilated carcasses out in the open where they can easily be found, resulting in a big, public mystery?

There's plenty of room in underground bases for large herds of cows. :) They could be doing anything they wanted to cows (and calves), way, way out of anyone's sight... and so-one would never know.

Are you implying that somebody left it there to be found by somebody else? Like an insider who wants people to know about this stuff? If I was an insider I would do something like that. :sherlock:

[Caliban]

Scientists can be bribed/coerced/extorted/tantalized into doing almost anything. None of this stuff happens without highly trained workers in science (even if it's "et"). Hiroshima and Nagasaki wouldn't have happened, nor napalm, depleted uranium, et al., without the work of these conscience-less "people."

[Atlas]

What happens when you get too close to the truth ?

Men in black - The silencers
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[findingneo]

Someone has recently transferred this old mainstream Australian program on cattle mutilations in Autralia from VHS to an online version. First time I have ever seen it. Includes interviews with a younger Linda Moulton Howe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3PFKTxdc6A

And this one, which briefly mentions cattle mutilations and that they correspond in the U.S. to the 37th parallel, along with underground bases, government buildings, and stuff like that. All packed into a TED talk of 10 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urKhVssiygA