America

[Frankie Pancakes]

“America”
In parse syntax
“A” means no
“meri” means mercy
“ca” means sheep
“No mercy for the sheep”!

Interesting.

[uzn]

What ? Cant follow you there. Your out there on your own. A = no ???

I would set my money on some native american:
ameri = land of
can = snake
(yes we can ;))

[Bill Ryan]

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From http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/America:




From a Latinized form of the Italian forename of Amerigo Vespucci (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerigo_Vespucci) (1454–1512). Amerigo (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Amerigo) is an Italian name derived from the German name Emmerich (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Emmerich). For more, see the Latin entry America (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/America#Latin) and the Wikipedia article on the etymology of America (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas#Etymology_and_naming).
That (the etymology of America (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas#Etymology_and_naming)) says...




The earliest known use of the name America dates to 1507, where it was applied to what is now known as South America. The scholarly consensus is that the name was derived from Italian explorer Amerigo Vespucci (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerigo_Vespucci).

[Matt P]

I experience the most incredible "coincidences" in my life. Everything happens for a reason. Tyler Murphy didn't discover the Americas. Amerigo did. I think you're ALL right. :)

Matt

[Ellisa]

There is in fact a lot of controversy about the origin of the name of America, including the backing of words from Old Norse and the Incas! My favourite story, and actually one gaining a bit of support, is that it was named after a Welshman, Richard Ap Meryk, who had Anglicised his name to Amerike. He settled in Bristol (then a very powerful sea port) and he sponsored John Cabot's journey to the new world. He also asked that the new lands should bear his name. Cabot reached the new world and called the spot Newfoundland. He returned to Bristol and Amerike sponsored another journey but all but one of the ships were lost.

I learned this story as a child, so it is not a new theory. And the best thing (that I only learned recently) is that the Ap Meryks, who were a noble family in Wales, had a shield which bore a design of stars and stripes!

I doubt this will replace the Vespucci theory, but such land discoveries are usually named using the surname of the sponsor (unless they were royal). So you get Magellan Strait, Tasmania (originally Van Deimans Land), Cook islands and numerous others.

Did anyone ever suggest asking the original inhabitants what they called their homeland? After all they were the people who discovered America!

[bettye198]

Thank you Amerigo. Well, we know it wasn't Columbus who was a blue beard pirate and landed on Haiti, killed the inhabitants and brought slaves over from Africa to maintain. All in the name of a Catholic Spain.

[Basho]

Did anyone ever suggest asking the original inhabitants what they called their homeland? After all they were the people who discovered America!


Here's one name - Nican Tlaca :)

Nican Tlaca is a Nahuatl (Mexica, Aztec, etc.) term used to refer to “the (indigenous) people” in their relation to the foreign invaders (Spanish/Christians.) From my understanding, while it has been documented as being used at least since the 1500’s, it was made popular in recent times by the organization Mexica Movement with the intention of creating a unifying term for the original peoples of the western hemisphere. The understanding is that Nican Tlaca means “we people here,” which infers one to be of the original people (Indigenous).

[bettye198]

Yes, the true First Founding Fathers were the indigenous tribes of America. Then Second, the writers of the Declaration of Independence, although questionable. A twenty year American Revolution? Seriously? And still Britain reigns with taxation and land holdings and what not.

[shaberon]

Did anyone ever suggest asking the original inhabitants what they called their homeland? After all they were the people who discovered America!

I don't believe they had the same kind of naming and ownership conventions, just having different dialects for calling themselves "the people" and then fairly small areas as "the land". Mostly likely it had trading civilizations from 100,000 years ago, so it gets a little fuzzy saying who was first and who may have conquered and eliminated someone else. Some of them seem to have been fairly violent.

"A" certainly means "without" as: amoral, apolitical, asexual.

[Calz]

Let's talk amerika shall we?

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(America)
America where are you now?
Don't you care about your sons and daughters?
Don't you know we need you now
We can't fight alone against the monster

(Monster)
Once the religious, the hunted and weary
Chasing the promise of freedom and hope
Came to this country to build a new vision
Far from the reaches of kingdom and pope
Like good Christians, some would burn the witches
Later some got slaves to gather riches

But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light

And once the ties with the crown had been broken
Westward in saddle and wagon it went
And 'til the railroad linked ocean to ocean
Many the lives which had come to an end
While we bullied, stole and bought our a homeland
We began the slaughter of the red man

But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light

The blue and grey they stomped it
They kicked it just like a dog
And when the war over
They stuffed it just like a hog

And though the past has it's share of injustice
Kind was the spirit in many a way
But it's protectors and friends have been sleeping
Now it's a monster and will not obey

(Suicide)
The spirit was freedom and justice
And it's keepers seem generous and kind
It's leaders were supposed to serve the country
But now they won't pay it no mind
'Cause the people grew fat and got lazy
And now their vote is a meaningless joke
They babble about law and order
But it's all just an echo of what they've been told
Yeah, there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watchin'

Our cities have turned into jungles
And corruption is stranglin' the land
The police force is watching the people
And the people just can't understand
We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
'Cause there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watching

[TargeT]

Thank you Amerigo. Well, we know it wasn't Columbus who was a blue beard pirate and landed on Haiti, killed the inhabitants and brought slaves over from Africa to maintain. All in the name of a Catholic Spain.

He landed on a few islands... St Croix (where I am) was one of them, and St Croix was turned into a"hub" of slave trade... we have two islands both named "buck island".... I didn't realize that "buck" meant "male slave" (at least, I didn't tie that meaning to the name of hte island). Apparently all the males were put on a smaller island for the night when new to the island to deter escape attempts .

He wasn't a "Pirate" though, he had legal backing from Spain; how different that makes him from a pirate is up for debate however.


Yes, the true First Founding Fathers were the indigenous tribes of America. .

That is debatable in my mind... those are just the last people we know we found when "we" showed up.




"A" certainly means "without" as: amoral, apolitical, asexual.

anesthetic, apolitical, asocial.... you are certainly right there, but I don't know that the word break down you performed applies in this situation.

[kennywally]

I experience the most incredible "coincidences" in my life. Everything happens for a reason. Tyler Murphy didn't discover the Americas. Amerigo did. I think you're ALL right. :)

Matt

You should read, America B.C. by Dr. Barry Fell....

Amerigo was probably one of the more recent explorers...I doubt anyone knows who was first. It depends on who is telling the story and which goal post are they using etc etc.

Even the native Americans were never here first, contrary to popular PC, progressive, communist dogma. How do I know that?
Pretty simple, the natives admit the burial mounds scattered all over were here when they got here, that's how I know!!!

The Giants were here prior to native Americans as well....Tombs/graves for giants are scattered all over....lots in Ohio, but really widely scattered.
from amazon;
The Ancient Giants Who Ruled America: The Missing Skeletons and the Great Smithsonian Cover-Up Paperback – December 27, 2013
http://www.amazon.com/America-B-C-Ancient-Settlers/dp/0934666555/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1460318985&sr=1-1&keywords=America+B.C.

We've been told lies by the truckload...from all that outer space stuff to whatever...all denying the existence of our Father in heaven, even the churches are divided...stay away from 501-c3 agents only have truths sold there. and being a believer, I'm still in opposition to most church/501-c3 agent goers. Them folks don't even know the evil that lurks within...it's quite insidious.

For me, I'm afraid it boils down to the war between good and evil. One either gets that, or they don't. If you don't believe, that's fine...there's really nothing to do.
There's a Waiting Thread, where the OP and others feel like they're waiting for something. I'd say that was part of something bigger, but don't ask me what, not yet.

Why would there be egyptian heiroglyphics in a cave in the wall of the grand canyon? surely the native/aboriginal/indians didn't leave that. There's much much more in Barry Fells book, it is quite excellent.

So the columbus story was a fairy tale, on the one hand, but I suppose, plucked out of history, it could be passed off as a discovery for the ignorant...but truly it was a creation of a hero , as in Breads and Circuses for the American students to get excited about etc etc.

ok, I'm done babbling for the moment...feel free to comment one way or the other as always...

[shaberon]

"A" certainly means "without" as: amoral, apolitical, asexual.

anesthetic, apolitical, asocial.... you are certainly right there, but I don't know that the word break down you performed applies in this situation.


No I didn't put the part about mercy and sheep.

As a land mass I would tend to go with--it probably was inhabited 80-100,000 years ago, there probably were races of giants, there probably were intercontinental trading routes that broke away through various deluges until the one at the end of the last little ice age is the one we were mostly taught about Siberians coming over. But as far as the current name, not really sure.