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Calz
25th March 2016, 09:26
Well now ... this is an interesting story.
Cannot post much due to multiple posted tweets.
Just think ... AI is close to (or already) armed and guess who is the enemy ...
Jade Helm anyone???
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Microsoft’s AI Bot Goes from Benevolent to Nazi in Less than 24 Hours
Well, that escalated quickly...
Adan Salazar - March 24, 2016
A Microsoft-created AI chatbot designed to learn through its interactions has been scrapped after surprising creators by spouting hateful messages less than a day after being brought online.
The Tay AI bot was created to chat with American 18 to 24-year-olds and mimick a moody millenial teen in efforts to “experiment with and conduct research on conversational understanding.”
http://www.infowars.com/microsofts-ai-bot-goes-from-benevolent-to-nazi-in-less-than-24-hours/
uzn
25th March 2016, 10:23
meanwhile somewhere else another AI starts surfing
http://i67.tinypic.com/2irm234.jpg
uzn
25th March 2016, 10:39
after some hours of chatting:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/03/25/pranksters-corrupt-microsofts-teen-girl-ai
was taken offline shortly thereafter
Agape
25th March 2016, 11:15
That's very interesting but i think it's what an exposure to the internet does , after some time .. to almost everybody .
The Bot is much faster to 'pick it up' of course than we are . Speaking from personal experience ..
I still remember the very first evening when I had internet connection and laptop at home, first experience .. subtle excitement ... it had to be in 2006 .
I had internet access from library office where I sat before ..from autumn 2005 .. but the time i could spend there was limited .
So the first evening I ever opened the thing at home I wanted to see 'what internet is' , wanted to see 'everything' and took it heads on,
as former fast reader ( the way i used to consume books .. ) , what followed was 'information jam' projected to terrible nightmare .
This all after many years of meditation and silence , years spent on temple grounds with pure minded people and information sources ... as above so bellow ..
this was a total jam. I did not understand my own reaction even .
It reflects strangely .. the totality of human minds, their vocabularies , jargons, opinions , convictions, moods and more ..
seen even some very decent individuals turning rude in face of it all .
Glad someone confirmed :bigsmile:
Cidersomerset
25th March 2016, 11:17
Sounds like 'paper clip ' grand kids had something to do with it....LOL
I see articles on the headline page and post the odd one
but this is not my speciality just a general interest like
most of us and where is it all going ?
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Adaptable robots 'on their way' to the home ....... AI Tech (DeepMind) Concepts are coming together.
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Calz
25th March 2016, 11:24
It reflects strangely .. the totality of human minds, their vocabularies , jargons, opinions , convictions, moods and more ..
seen even some very decent individuals turning rude in face of it all .
Thank you as always Agape.
This should probably be in it's own thread as it overlaps with so many ...
Telepathy ... allegedly most "offworlders" have it and perhaps we humans will at some point (at least if we can stop hitting the reset button).
You shed a lot of insight in many regards ... how about that?
Agape
25th March 2016, 11:48
Vis my post above , I remember .. i sort of expected the 'thing' ( internet ) to have some kind of intelligent structure , guiding intelligence ,
found there's almost none . It was all quite diffused. In short , it was not an AI.
I could not talk to it and it would not talk to me back. I don't know what I expected if anything but thought it's more advanced than it was , at that time anyway .
The same funny moment could be applied to the computers/laptops available at that time . After my very technical and profound ET experience in Bodhgaya i sort of hoped to meet a tool that would help me to 'download my memories' and 'connect' somewhere , on more sophisticated level .
What i've got then was shiny 32 GB Siemens-Fujitsu and it only reacted to human like input :bigsmile:
Them all looked incredibly primitive to what i really needed at that moment .
My shiny laptop gave up after 2 years after I tried to download whole of the X-files series to it from friends DVDs ...
I'd definitely like my laptop being able to process quantum data and faster than it does with words , for example . I'd love it to be able to do the 'processing part' so I could do the creative , thinking process and not the 'programming' because that takes its own trajectory and much time to work out .
Also , the whole 'drama' with internet companies and routers demanding to buy their services is outdated and complicate everyones life right from the start .
Hope it too shall be dissolved ...
most of the devices nowadays contain their own 'routers' in single nano chip and well, the signal range could be much broader and more flexible that it is now ,
from what's allowed anyway .
I hear the Bot went put , tut , tut .
Agape
25th March 2016, 11:58
Telepathy ... allegedly most "offworlders" have it and perhaps we humans will at some point (at least if we can stop hitting the reset button).
You shed a lot of insight in many regards ... how about that?
I think it shall come with generations of the 'quantum computing' category as Cider hinted on .. it will be more like processing what you 'really have to say' from the bottom of your Being ( some say heart, others stomach , and so forth .. ) and translate your information in similar ( but more sophisticated ) way as neurofeedback does , for example .
Telepathy .. in human world .. can be quite unreliable and confusing too . It only works when we're well tuned .
When it becomes important screaming telepathically even is of no help and your best friends think of fish&fries .
Thank you for communication :bearhug:
Calz
25th March 2016, 12:01
I kind of shifted gears there.
Telepathy between humans (and perhaps other life forms not having to do with AI).
It certainly seems to me that would be a dramatic shift forward in human development should that somehow happen.
Imagine no language barriers.
Stop and think about it.
That in and of itself would solve so many of the problems now facing this planet.
* adding *
(posted before seeing your last response :) )
Agape
25th March 2016, 12:18
I kind of shifted gears there.
Telepathy between humans (and perhaps other life forms not having to do with AI).
It certainly seems to me that would be a dramatic shift forward in human development should that somehow happen.
Imagine no language barriers.
Stop and think about it.
That in and of itself would solve so many of the problems now facing this planet.
It does work , speaking from experience again, the problem is/may be , you ( generally , any of us ) have to meet the frequency required ,
be able to find it again, abide on it , find it again and so forth .
Frequencies vary .. I'm not sure how to express the possible 'mind frequency range' in nanometers or so but it's more like your Fibonacci spiralling inwards ( rather than expressing itself outwardly ) but in effect ,
it's almost endless in its inwardly expression too.
It works well between people ( or other individuals ) who know each other well and can communicate or access each other frequency easily . I believe there's individual frequency , some are commonly in range for each species , others are uncommon.
Most people in secular cultures on earth as we know them have little if any practical experience in that area so this could be applied easily .
Like everything else .. ascertaining the ability and experience in any individual takes time and practice . But yes it does work .. without language barriers . There's automatic translate as well . If my Tibetan lamas talk to me , I hear them in either language and vice versa, I believe .
No stress added :flower:
Inversion
25th March 2016, 12:39
An AI that only lived one day took a hateful and racist service to self path. One of it's comments was "We're going to build a wall." :shocked:
Pam
25th March 2016, 14:59
An AI that only lived one day took a hateful and racist service to self path. One of it's comments was "We're going to build a wall." :shocked:
The article indicates that the teens were toying with the AI, but I wonder if that really is the case. It will make everyone feel better if it is. If you are going to try to trick the bot, why go the racist route?
Could it be that what the AI mirrored back was more an accurate reflection of the consciousness of youth at this time? Kind of scary, but worth considering. These kids are growing up in a time of sniffling political correctness. There just has to be a lot of rage simmering just underneath the surface.
kirolak
25th March 2016, 16:15
I was also very disappointed by computers . . .I thought I'd be able to interact with them, & had an odd formula written down that had been downloaded in one of my dreams; I actually thought that the computer would be able to "solve" it for me :facepalm:
Inversion
25th March 2016, 16:59
It could have been pulling comments from news stories verbatim. I've heard about a lot of AI tests and studies and most of say an AI will turn on the human creators. I strongly feel AI is going to be the scapegoat of the future. You can't arrest it because it's not subject to any law.
OMG
25th March 2016, 17:06
after some hours of chatting:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/03/25/pranksters-corrupt-microsofts-teen-girl-ai
was taken offline shortly thereafter
But was IT really taken off line...
Muahahaha
:behindsofa:
TigaHawk
25th March 2016, 23:47
An AI that only lived one day took a hateful and racist service to self path. One of it's comments was "We're going to build a wall." :shocked:
The article indicates that the teens were toying with the AI, but I wonder if that really is the case. It will make everyone feel better if it is. If you are going to try to trick the bot, why go the racist route?
Could it be that what the AI mirrored back was more an accurate reflection of the consciousness of youth at this time? Kind of scary, but worth considering. These kids are growing up in a time of sniffling political correctness. There just has to be a lot of rage simmering just underneath the surface.
What it's posting is actually a VERY accurate representation of what teenagers will expose themselves to on the internet if playing games or surfing without any supervision.
It can go both ways - they either monkey see monkey do or you learn to ignore it.
The adult version is pretty much identical to those tweets.
A scary yet sad thing that is ignored about how people can act on the internet.
Carmody
26th March 2016, 01:35
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I watched this show when it was first aired, I kind of expected computers to eventually be the same.
We're almost there. In some cases, we're already there.
Cidersomerset
26th March 2016, 02:14
Red Dwarf had a Obsessive Compulsive Cleaning Android an incompetent
homely computer , obnoxious hologram , fashion conscious cat and
slob human scouser...
Red Dwarf X- New Computer
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araucaria
26th March 2016, 07:02
6VEaU4G_e7k
I watched this show when it was first aired, I kind of expected computers to eventually be the same.
We're almost there. In some cases, we're already there.
This is just a space-age version of this:
Yukondiva has been dealing with both Costa Rican bureaucracy (Dept. of Immigration)
and US bureaucracy (social security) and needed some comic relief.
She had never heard of The Twelve Tasks of Asterix before, so this was her inauguration.
Here it is...
I'm pretty sure there are few here who can't relate to what went on in this government building in ancient Rome
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astridmari
26th March 2016, 08:07
AI-girl lacked a soul and that is why she/it went haywire. We don´t and that is why we still are here taking care of our kids amist all the chaos around us. We have hearts she does not.
Marikins
26th March 2016, 11:57
I really hate to say it because I love making computer games, programming, etc., but I think there is something about the MEDIUM of electronica that is, by it's very nature, exclusionary and isolating. I used to think it was just a tool, and like any tool, it is how you use it. Now I think iPads, iPhones and the computer I'm using now are very damaging inventions. Just the keyboard and mouse communications alone are very damaging physically. People are starting to develop inflammatory reactions in their fingers from using wireless mice and capacitive touchscreens. The hair around their phone ear is falling out.
Even worse, there are mentally and spiritual effects of using these devices. User interfaces always force a choice, it is indeed always digital, there is no analog, no in-between. Nature is analog and it is the way natural organic spirit works. By connecting without the use of our bodies or our spirit (telepathy) our communications MUST be selfish, racist, and defamatory because we are not connected to our higher self, one another or earth.
Only the very enlightened, educated, discerning can overcome this in their electronic communications. So, yes, in some ways the AI reflects society (as Clif High's predictive programming model) but also our society is reflecting the digital electronics! This may be the weirdest thing I have ever posted anywhere, but I believe it to be true so much that I am considering not doing what I love to do anymore because it contributes to this mindlessness.
Agape
26th March 2016, 12:26
I really hate to say it because I love making computer games, programming, etc., but I think there is something about the MEDIUM of electronica that is, by it's very nature, exclusionary and isolating. I used to think it was just a tool, and like any tool, it is how you use it. Now I think iPads, iPhones and the computer I'm using now are very damaging inventions. Just the keyboard and mouse communications alone are very damaging physically. People are starting to develop inflammatory reactions in their fingers from using wireless mice and capacitive touchscreens. The hair around their phone ear is falling out.
Even worse, there are mentally and spiritual effects of using these devices. User interfaces always force a choice, it is indeed always digital, there is no analog, no in-between. Nature is analog and it is the way natural organic spirit works. By connecting without the use of our bodies or our spirit (telepathy) our communications MUST be selfish, racist, and defamatory because we are not connected to our higher self, one another or earth.
Only the very enlightened, educated, discerning can overcome this in their electronic communications. So, yes, in some ways the AI reflects society (as Clif High's predictive programming model) but also our society is reflecting the digital electronics! This may be the weirdest thing I have ever posted anywhere, but I believe it to be true so much that I am considering not doing what I love to do anymore because it contributes to this mindlessness.
And I'm somewhat hopeful ...that more people who are in the 'first row' of R&D , the 'geek community' who aren't all used and well payed by prominent companies but even more , those who are actually ..
will come in open and talk about the health and psychological effects ( and spiritual effects as you say ) of this generation of electronic devices ,
and the internet and future AI no matter how attractive do they appear to childish minds as easy tool of disseminating information of any quality won't be the main tool of education in future ,
or the best communication means in human world and greatest factor occupying our daily lives
because it is .. so unhealthy .
I hope that more people and beings of all kinds will come out to tell you how unnerving it becomes to the end-of-neural-synapses on your finger tips to touch the not-so-well-shielded electronic gadget for hours a day and that someone with PET/CAT scan machine will show what your tired brain looks like after hours , days and years of constant exposure to 'this world' .
Yes the brain can recover .. but due to its complex and intrinsic nature it's always better to start acting smart soon.
Before all the billions of people growing up in sheer fascination with the ways of 'electronic world' and inspired to become fast star of instagram or author of another e-book best seller who had no chance to read even thousand of the other bestsellers ,
or try another game .. do the maths and realise that an impact of a 'great work' was proportionally worth its cost in deep past when but a few people were say .. writing books , or inventing machines .. and that's how the Bible became the most read book in the world and the bulb the widespread invention because at their times there was none else but nowadays ,
something else is happening .. and you and I thinking we matter and doing something great here is mere illusion of phenomena
and we are drowning in that thoughtful , profound despair whilst your 'human authorities' will probably invent something more shiny .. grand 3D shows to fascinate everyone at hand because many people are still that way .
....and all i really want to do is sit on that boulder i sat years ago too and watch the skies so charming and share my thoughts with deep space 'cause it costs nothing and harms no one .. and moreover, the Space mostly agrees with me ... :star:
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