Carol Rosin on the Vinny Eastwood show - Former Aerospace CEO Says Alien Invasion Fears Are A Hoax

[Jantje]

I think this is a very interesting interview with Carol Rosin that deserves some more views. Haven't heard the entire thing yet, but so far multiple subjects are covered in the field of ufology. the next few lines are taken from vinny eastwoods description on his youtube channel :

This interview with America's first female aerospace CEO Carol Rosin challenges the entire myth behind UFO's, Alien invasion and abduction.
The subject of aliens is very popular so it may come as a surprise to learn that there's a possibility that the entire world has been deliberately misled about the subject and certainly not made aware that the US government has had a plan to use UFO's and aliens as a smokescreen to cover up sightings of highly advanced aircraft, holographic projection, gravity manipulating technologies and human experimentation conducted in secret.

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[Althena]

I've seen this woman before, total wacko and 100% insane. My opinion.

[Jantje]

I've seen this woman before, total wacko and 100% insane. My opinion.

That's ok, but how come you think she is a total wacko because that is easy to say

[Althena]

I've seen this woman before, total wacko and 100% insane. My opinion.

That's ok, but how come you think she is a total wacko because that is easy to say

I've known a lot of mentally disturbed people in my life. It's ONLY MY OPINION. I'm sure a shrink can explain it better. Read more about her.

[Jantje]

I've seen this woman before, total wacko and 100% insane. My opinion.

That's ok, but how come you think she is a total wacko because that is easy to say

I've known a lot of mentally disturbed people in my life. It's ONLY MY OPINION. I'm sure a shrink can explain it better. Read more about her.

I am interested to know what your opinion is based on. I have experience with shrinks and I can tell you that any shrink I have met is more insane than I am right now. If you judge somebody you might as well explain why.
If I read something about her that you have written, will that get me closer to the truth ?
I'm not bringing her in as some kind of messiah who knows all. I do think the conversation brings up interesting topics and points of view.
We will have to look at this stuff from all angles.
She doesn't sound unreasonable to me and after all, it's more about the information than the messenger in this case

[Althena]

I've seen this woman before, total wacko and 100% insane. My opinion.

That's ok, but how come you think she is a total wacko because that is easy to say

I've known a lot of mentally disturbed people in my life. It's ONLY MY OPINION. I'm sure a shrink can explain it better. Read more about her.

I am interested to know what your opinion is based on. I have experience with shrinks and I can tell you that any shrink I have met is more insane than I am right now. If you judge somebody you might as well explain why.
If I read something about her that you have written, will that get me closer to the truth ?
I'm not bringing her in as some kind of messiah who knows all. I do think the conversation brings up interesting topics and points of view.
We will have to look at this stuff from all angles.
She doesn't sound unreasonable to me and after all, it's more about the information than the messenger in this case

Sure she brings up interesting topics but then again so did Hannibal Lecter, look, I just don't believe her and I think she hung out with Timothy Leary a little too much. Nothing against him but I don't feel she's anything more than most of the charlatans on youtu be. Some people you like and others not so much.

Nothing personal.That's it, that's life.

[TargeT]

I've seen this woman before, total wacko and 100% insane. My opinion.

That's ok, but how come you think she is a total wacko because that is easy to say

I've known a lot of mentally disturbed people in my life. It's ONLY MY OPINION. I'm sure a shrink can explain it better. Read more about her.

I am interested to know what your opinion is based on. I have experience with shrinks and I can tell you that any shrink I have met is more insane than I am right now. If you judge somebody you might as well explain why.
If I read something about her that you have written, will that get me closer to the truth ?
I'm not bringing her in as some kind of messiah who knows all. I do think the conversation brings up interesting topics and points of view.
We will have to look at this stuff from all angles.
She doesn't sound unreasonable to me and after all, it's more about the information than the messenger in this case

Sure she brings up interesting topics but then again so did Hannibal Lecter, look, I just don't believe her and I think she hung out with Timothy Leary a little too much. Nothing against him but I don't feel she's anything more than most of the charlatans on youtu be. Some people you like and others not so much.

Nothing personal.That's it, that's life.

The validity of statements has zero to do with weather you like or dislike someone.

What you have displayed here in the last few posts is a great example of a common logical fallacy "Ad Hominem"

ad ho·mi·nem
ˌad ˈhämənəm/
adverb & adjective
adverb: ad hominem; adjective: ad hominem

1.
(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.


It is a very limited way of thinking and is highly encouraged by modern society (this is why we have the "easy" labels of "conspiracy theorist" "truther" or "insane" "wakco" "nutbag" all of these labels are meant to do one thing: marginalize the messenger so that the message is ignored).


I will view this video later, but at first glance & from my experience in the alt community I think it is not only possible but highly probable that the vast majority if not all topics surround the "UFO" phenomenon are rooted in propaganda and manipulation.

[Althena]

Like I said, I personally think she's not all there. Maybe saying not liking her was the wrong term but I do believe she's full of it.

[mojo]

Maybe a corporate ceo can be crazy, who knows? I like Vinny's show so going to listen, the subject matter is a favorite.

[Cardillac]

I just think we all need to take a deep breath and look at this a bit more objectively; yes, Dr. Rosin was Wernher von Braun's spokesperson and he seemed (?) to be a whistle-blower at the end of his life and has warned us about "Project Bluebeam" (a faked alien invasion);

however: Joseph P. Farrell in one of his books (I forget which one) stated a LATER scientest (ohh, Lordy, I forget his name) stated "now that we have the formula right we can send ET back home"; so why would he state something like this?- just talking through his hat?-

as Farrell has pointed out: certain scientific factions on our planet have become so rapidly advanced that if/IF there are ET's out there we aren't much behind their technology;

back to Rosin: she's coming from von Braun's statements in the 70's but if Farrell is right there have been rapid technological advancements since then and the most UFO sightings have occured since the Nazis were successfully the first to test the atom bomb; was someone "out there" awakened by this?-

I certainly don't have the answer to this but I think we should put all of this info together and then think "hmmm"- anything is possible-

am I making any sense of myself?-

please stay well all-

Larry

[TargeT]

I just think we all need to take a deep breath and look at this a bit more objectively; yes, Dr. Rosin was Wernher von Braun's spokesperson and he seemed (?) to be a whistle-blower at the end of his life and has warned us about "Project Bluebeam" (a faked alien invasion);

however: Joseph P. Farrell in one of his books (I forget which one) stated a LATER scientest (ohh, Lordy, I forget his name) stated "now that we have the formula right we can send ET back home"; so why would he state something like this?- just talking through his hat?-

I'm not saying this is why,,,, BUT: it seems like, as the dominate power on earth, you would want very greatly to "send ET back home" in order to retain their dominance.


as Farrell has pointed out: certain scientific factions on our planet have become so rapidly advanced that if/IF there are ET's out there we aren't much behind their technology;

back to Rosin: she's coming from von Braun's statements in the 70's but if Farrell is right there have been rapid technological advancements since then and the most UFO sightings have occured since the Nazis were successfully the first to test the atom bomb; was someone "out there" awakened by this?-

very valid point, however I think the "shadow government" and " secret space program" are both greatly exaggerated in their capabilities; I think we can do some amazing things, but like electric cars in the 1910's... they are EARTH SHATTERING technology, but highly limited in application.... we are a few technological beak throughs from what most alt community members fear already exists (and this fear is suspect in origin...).


I certainly don't have the answer to this but I think we should put all of this info together and then think "hmmm"- anything is possible-

am I making any sense of myself?-

please stay well all-

Larry

I believe I grasp what you are saying, but this is the worst communication medium possible, so I very well maybe wrong.

[giovonni]

I just think we all need to take a deep breath and look at this a bit more objectively; yes, Dr. Rosin was Wernher von Braun's spokesperson and he seemed (?) to be a whistle-blower at the end of his life and has warned us about "Project Bluebeam" (a faked alien invasion);

however: Joseph P. Farrell in one of his books (I forget which one) stated a LATER scientest (ohh, Lordy, I forget his name) stated "now that we have the formula right we can send ET back home"; so why would he state something like this?- just talking through his hat?-

as Farrell has pointed out: certain scientific factions on our planet have become so rapidly advanced that if/IF there are ET's out there we aren't much behind their technology;

back to Rosin: she's coming from von Braun's statements in the 70's but if Farrell is right there have been rapid technological advancements since then and the most UFO sightings have occured since the Nazis were successfully the first to test the atom bomb; was someone "out there" awakened by this?-

I certainly don't have the answer to this but I think we should put all of this info together and then think "hmmm"- anything is possible-

am I making any sense of myself?-

please stay well all-

Larry

Yes indeed Larry ... :thumb:

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Posted on June 22, 2014 by Joseph P. Farrell

[DNA]

however: Joseph P. Farrell in one of his books (I forget which one) stated a LATER scientest (ohh, Lordy, I forget his name) stated "now that we have the formula right we can send ET back home"; so why would he state something like this?- just talking through his hat?-

Ben Rich CEO of Lockheed Skunkworks
A major player in the black project side of the military.


Rosin was correct in a lot of what she had to say.
She was correct in what she was talking about in terms of our current "war on terrorism".

I have no problem thinking that tptb could and would do a false flag of proportions we have never seen, and then lay the blame at the feet of ET.

Remember, they want a one world currency, a one world religion and a one world government.

What better way to disqualify all previous religions than to introduce ET?

What better way to make the world feel small enough to agree with the idea of a one world government?

How quick will everyone agree to the least most important part of the philosophy and scamper to get your RFID chip so you can get it scanned for food purchases?

And for those who think they won't be fooled, think again.
This technology will come complete with cloned aliens blowing up your neighbors if not you first, so all in all you will be running for the hills and screaming in terror just like everyone else.

[Strider]

The US government (or even the shadow groups) were not present way back in history when UFO's were being seen, so whilst some sightings may be/probably are classified ships, it cannot be said for all of them. And anyway, if they were classified, why would they appear with lights etc?

[TargeT]

I will view this video later, but at first glance & from my experience in the alt community I think it is not only possible but highly probable that the vast majority if not all topics surround the "UFO" phenomenon are rooted in propaganda and manipulation.

Well the video was interesting, her take is that all "ET" are benevolent and any "negative" ET are human made psyop... she is pushing for a treaty to ban weapons from space....


Her view on the topic seems benign, I cannot see any obvious attempts at manipulation; it was an interesting interview but in the end it was mostly about selling books or what ever.

[Hervé]

The Last Card:

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Verner fon Braun deathbed confession...
... make ov it vat dou vilt...

[Agape]

Ah yes and she was formerly the secretary of Werhner von Braun (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun) , the famous rocket engineer ...
so no nonsense person in my opinion . But is she too going to be vilified by the 'conspiracy movement' for lack of support to the 'monster alien theory' ?

The alligator who indeed ate few cows :

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/05/us/big-alligator-in-florida-irpt/

is huge .. and there are more questions left unanswered in cases of cow mutilations and human murders that occur times to times

but people willing to believe in super-theory called 'the devil' capable of almost anything that is unlike the theory being taught by state church/government/scientific institutions just because it does not all fit in and someone like .. David Icke have a good idea ,
and everyone's willing to follow .. , all the sects , all the greats , it's old in my opinion .

You'd think it's dark middle ages truths . But not . It reads 2016 at PA.

[Bill Ryan]

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[Mod hat on]

1. I moved all the posts/comments about the Vaxxed movie to the appropriate thread, here:
Trailer – Vaxxed: From Cover-Up To Catastrophe (Video) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89642-Trailer----Vaxxed-From-Cover-Up-To-Catastrophe--Video-)
(Note: the film was released only a week ago, so it's it going to be found anywhere online just yet.)

2. Re opinions about Carol Rosin (or anyone else), if a critical opinion is voiced, please substantiate it with references. @ Althena, you wrote (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89872-Carol-Rosin-on-the-Vinny-Eastwood-show-Former-Aerospace-CEO-Says-Alien-Invasion-Fears-Are-A-Hoax&p=1058754&viewfull=1#post1058754) 'read more about her', but it'd be helpful if you could assist readers in knowing where to look. Rosin's testimony is important, and if she is indeed unreliable, then readers (and researchers) need to know facts. Your opinion doesn't count here, but information does.

This is not to agree or disagree with you... just pointing out that TargeT is correct about ad hominem attacks. They're 100% unhelpful, and on their own are just smears. But if they're backed up with documented evidence, then that can actually be very useful indeed.

:focus:

[Hervé]

The Last Card:

[...]

For those who listen to the video while watching it (or doing something else), here is something about that last card and the weaponization of space, completely out of left-field:


These prophecies were written down in 1935 and ending at "Twenty centuries plus the savior's age" (which many interpret as being 2033), so here they are after a short intro on the book history:


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[...]

The intended war. The war of all, without borders. The son of the Beast loosens the wild beasts.

And Europe collapses, like a statue of mud.

The sea kills under water. And the sky spits fire. Innocent people killed in houses.

And where boots and nails arrive, the children of Israel know the torment. Sheepfolds for their pain and subtle death.

The torturers know, they will lie at Nuremberg.

Always look for the perpetrators, even when you believe they are dead. Look for them wherever power survives on terror. Look for them in the houses of the ones who have been enriched with the war.

Not for revenge, but to prevent them and their children to invade the world once more by hiding the word and the chief.

[...]

Because the leaders they believe they shot down will control again, always the same.

They shot down the money puppets, not the money masters. And they will be seduced by the new Tsar [Stalin] who vanquished despite his betrayal (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?25102-For-an-idea-on-the-big-picture) due to his fierce red flame.

[...]

But beware of the man who emerged from the den at the end [Hitler's Bunker (http://henrymakow.com/martin_bormann_was_rothschild.html)]. It will take him a long time to die and he prepares the world other scourges. He knows the Beast’s real face.

[...]

The wrath of the enslavers rages closer now that the distant war is lost. The Great Weapons are all over the world and are the keys to fear.

[...]

The war is in man, now.

Nuremberg the unfair. The assassins are absent. Some of them in the seats of the judges.

This shadow spreads far.

[...]

The President will fall, fall will his brother. Between them the corpse of the innocent star. [Marylin]

There are some who know. Ask the first black widow and the man who will lead her to the altar on the island. [Jackie + Onassis, Scorpio island]

Their secrets are in weapons, in crime. And those are the secrets of the one who was not at Nuremberg.

Three will shoot the president. The third one will be among the three who will hit the second.

[...]

We speak of false peace, but the weapons will always be hidden.

Men will fly in the sky, and men will get enthusiastic. They should tremble, because it is evil that conquered the skies to strike the earth.

[...]

Israel who suffers and struggles, no less than that which gives you the attack and knows not how to share your pain. You are brothers, someone pushes you to fight by keeping hidden. Here the fate of the world is being decided.

And in the palace where the States embrace, the fugitive from the den is alive and well.

From the palace, hatred for Israel. And it will be a sign of ruin.

Man who has climbed to the moon, look at yourself now that you possess it, but reflected in a mud that’s apparent.

[...]

This:

The sea kills under water. And the sky spits fire. Innocent people killed in houses. ... is usually taken as meaning submarines, torpedoes, etc, along with carpet bombing...

However, currently, and looking at dead fish, birds, whales and dolphins going belly-up by the 1000s along with a staggering increase of meteors/fireballs in the skies and it does look like it's Atlantis all over again (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89581-Here-We-Go-Atlantis-All-Over-Again)...

[Bill Ryan]

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@ Hervé — thanks! (Wow.) The thread being referenced is this one:

Angelo Roncalli's (Pope John XXIII) 1935 Prophecies (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84115-Angelo-Roncalli-s--Pope-John-XXIII--1935-Prophecies)

[Cardillac]

in my own humble opinion the animal/human mutilations in our world are due to hideous satanic cults on this planet; what better way to deflect blame from the terrestrial origins of these abominable acts but to simply blame them on unknown ETs-

Larry

[Althena]

I found this pretty revealing, Carol showing her true colors. Judge for yourself. I've heard other similar encounters with her that I cannot prove. Go on her FB page and dare challenge her to a debate or ask her questions that do not agree with her logic or her $book.

Is Carol Rosin Credible? Houston we have a problem...

A long time ago... in a not so far away Galaxy...

Along came the Disclosure Project.

Zorgon thought... "Kewl... finally the real deal... insiders that will testify before congress!!!!"

Then the years passed... and no disclosure. Some interesting statements by some people with colored ribbons on their chest, but nothing solid

Since then Steven Greer has shown his true colors selling alien hunting trips to the gullible for $1.000.00 plus a head to take pictures of glowing moths. He makes so much money and rubs our noses in it...

Then I see those guys that talk about the UFO's that interfered with our Nuke Base. On close examination of that story it is more likely that the Plasma Critters were curious and their mere EM presence set off the old warning buzzers which triggered an auto shutdown

Then I listen to Sgt Karl Wolf... He spins us a good sounding tale of NASA coverup using photoshop. Wee okay we all know that ... but his story tells that he was at a Langley facility for TWO WEEKS in May/June 1965 as a copy machine repairman and was shown classified moon base photos. He says they were from Lunar Orbiter... WOW cool eh? We hunt for anomalies all the time in those :D But then you see the videos of him and the use CLEMENTINE images from 1994... and then you realize that if he was working there in May/June 1965 he could not possibly have seen Lunar Orbiter pictures because..... the fist Lunar orbiter didn't launch until November 1966

So about Carol... I often quote that "Four manufactured Enemy" thing she claims von Braun said before he died. Well we only have her word for that and it's the main 'sales pitch' she has.. so since I know von Braun quit NASA over the arming of space (despite his exNAZI affiliation) I figured it was plausible he said that.

It certainly fits the facts.

1)Russians : the Cold War was a ruse to arm up both sides. Russia and US have always been allies since the NAZI, even if on the public front they rattled sabers
2) Terrorists: Well since 9/11 terrorist are everywhere and even every cop show on TV is doing terroists (except NCIS... each time someone says 'terrorist' they find its a local explanation
3) Asteroids: Well the past few months have seen more and more asteroids inside the moon's orbit, exploding over Russia and visible comets than in the past 50 years
4 False Flag Aliens: The only one left

BUT.... recently I found Carol Rosin on facebook. One of her friends made a post about some YT video and she literally pounced on that guy and said "There are no space weapons"

So being me I proceeded to post several items that proved that there were indeed space weapons already up there. I even commented that the first time I ever heard of her was regarding space weapons.

Her reply to me was gruff, basically saying "Well some people will fantasize about anything. There are no space weapons. I have studied this for many years and I should know"

Before I could reply the posts were deleted, the OP thread was deleted and I was unfriended

So since I know for a fact that there are space weapons and have already proved it here, my opinion of her and all those on the Disclosure Project is...

P.S. Every person with an opinion on this planet counts.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum2/index.php?topic=4030.5;wap2

[Cardillac]

if it is true that Rosin stated "there are no space weapons" (her source: Wernher von Braun?) then we all have to put both von Braun and Rosin under closer scrutiny;

the NAZIS were the masters of deception; look, we cannot doubt that there is an extremely advanced satellite technology out there (it rules our communications among many, many other things- like being able to hone into our living rooms and record every word/move we make?)-

I just think von Braun was telling Rosin a lie ("no weaponization of near/outer space") to pull a cloth over our eyes; if/IF Project Bluebeam occurs it would have nothing to do with the weaponization/satellite technology out there but just sort of a hoax based on, well, no named source-

I think von Braun was grasping at straws in this respect although I think his expoundings on the whole cold war scenario being a hoax (it was) and the origins of world "terrorism" (are we there yet?) being staged were the truth-

Larry

[DNA]

in my own humble opinion the animal/human mutilations in our world are due to hideous satanic cults on this planet; what better way to deflect blame from the terrestrial origins of these abominable acts but to simply blame them on unknown ETs-

Larry

Linda Moulten Howe did an amazing, high dollar well produced documentary that has information relevant to this very day.
Done in 1980 there is so much amazing information in this one small documentary I consider it a must for you to see before you make your mind up one way or another in so far as this subject goes.

Near the end of the video a woman is regressed under hypnosis and it is to my knowledge the only human witnessed cattle mutilation to have ever taken place.
In the regression a woman is taken aboard a flying saucer, and two small greys are in the midst of bringing a cow on board, performing a procedure on a cow and then dropping it.
The woman is told by the greys that they are from another dimension and that they are here performing these procedures to see how the massive detonation of nuclear bombs have affected life on this planet.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpcKrPaOJx0