Isn't it strange that the more you know, the less you speak?

[Asyloth]

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(Just kidding, everybody who knows me knows that I really can't shut it, I'm just holding for as long as possible)

[Carmody]

Research finds that wisdom is a matter of both heart and mind (http://medicalxpress.com/news/2016-04-wisdom-heart-mind.html)


The fluctuations of your heartbeat may affect your wisdom, according to new research from the University of Waterloo.

The study suggests that heart rate variation and thinking process work together to enable wise reasoning about complex social issues. The work by Igor Grossmann, professor of psychology at Waterloo, and colleagues based at the Australian Catholic University, appears in the online journal Frontiers in Behavioral Neuroscience.

Their study breaks new ground in wisdom research by identifying conditions under which psychophysiology impacts wise judgment.

"Our research shows that wise reasoning is not exclusively a function of the mind and cognitive ability," says Prof. Grossmann. "We found that people who have greater heart rate variability and who are able to think about social problems from a distanced viewpoint demonstrate a greater capacity for wise reasoning."

The study extends previous work on cognitive underpinnings of wise judgment to include consideration how the heart's functioning impacts the mind.

A growing consensus among philosophers and cognitive scientists defines wise judgment to include the ability to recognize the limits of one's knowledge, to be aware of the varied contexts of life and how they may unfold over time, to acknowledge others' points of view, and to seek reconciliation of opposing viewpoints.

The new study is the first to show that the physiology of the heart, specifically the variability of heart rate during low physical activity, is related to less biased, wiser judgment.

Human heart rate tends to fluctuate, even during steady-state conditions, such as while a person is sitting. Heart rate variability refers to the variation in the time interval between heartbeats and is related to the nervous system's control of organ functions.

The researchers found that people with more varied heart rates were able to reason in a wiser, less biased fashion about societal problems when they were instructed to reflect on a social issue from a third-person perspective. But, when the study's participants were instructed to reason about the issue from a first-person perspective, no relationship between heart rate and wiser judgment emerged.

"We already knew that people with greater variation in their heart rate show superior performance in the brain's executive functioning such as working memory," says Prof. Grossmann. "However, that does not necessarily mean these people are wiser - in fact, some people may use their cognitive skills to make unwise decisions. To channel their cognitive abilities for wiser judgment, people with greater heart rate variability first need to overcome their egocentric viewpoints."

The study opens the door for further exploration of wise judgment at the intersection of physiological and cognitive research.

[Mike]

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(Just kidding, everybody who knows me knows that I really can't shut it, I'm just holding for as long as possible)


It's absolutely true.

Over time and with accumulated wisdom you realize how pointless it can be...speaking, that is.

Not that I'm some monk or something, but I can say with confidence that there is a direct relationship between wisdom/knowledge and silence

[Betty]

My friends don't believe or are really awake but I think it's more important for us to love each other. To be kind, caring and gentle then to constantly try to "wake them up". When something comes up I do stand my ground and state my case, but otherwise it's the normal day to day stuff.
So many times when something controversial comes up people respond with knee jerk reactions rather than real thought. It gets tiring.

Christ is love, fear is of the devil.

[ZooLife]

This should be a short thread then?

[greybeard]

This should be a short thread then?

May be so!

[mokosh]

Yep!The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 10 characters. ;)

[greybeard]

Yep!The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 10 characters. ;)

May be so!!!

I remember reading that if you talk for long enough, sooner or later you will fall out with the one you are communicating with.

"Least said soonest mended" springs to mind.

Chris

[mokosh]

May be so!!!

I remember reading that if you talk for long enough, sooner or later you will fall out with the one you are communicating with.

"Least said soonest mended" springs to mind.

Chris

I just wanted to answer with yep! But Avalon rules said the message was too short. It made me laugh out loud :bigsmile:

[Matt P]

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(Just kidding, everybody who knows me knows that I really can't shut it, I'm just holding for as long as possible)

I don't know...I think I agree. The more I learn the more I realize I don't know and this causes me to listen more and talk less.

Matt

[ramus]

I HAVE FOUND THAT, IF THEY DON'T ASK THEY DON'T HEAR. SO SILENCE IS THE MODALITY. LISTENING IS ALL YOU CAN DO....

AN OLD QUOTE :WISDOM IS ONLY ACHIEVED WHEN TRUE KNOWLEDGE IS COMBINED WITH HONESTY { ONE WITH SELF}...ON-EST ..
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A few years ago, while reading the Institute of Noetic Sciences SHIFT magazine, There was an article describing the type of technology that might make this research possible. It turned out that there are now sensitive electronic devices such as the “SQUID” (Superconducting Quantum Interference Device) machines, which can detect electromagnetic fields 8-10 feet away from the body. With this type of equipment, the HeartMath Institute, in Boulder CA. discovered that these electromagnetic fields are being emitted by the heart organ and that these electromagnetic signals are 5,000 times stronger than those emitted by the brain.Researchers at HeartMath have been studying the heart-brain relationship for quite some time and have discovered very interesting facts about this relationship. Their research has shown that the heart not only emits a strong electromagnetic field, it can also affect the brainwave frequencies of another person. And while it may not be scientifically proven at this time, it appears that each “heart field” may be responding to other electromagnetic heart-fields. It appears that the heart perceives these electromagnetic fields and directs other organs to respond, full seconds before the brain is involved!

Could these electromagnetic fields be part of what we call intuition?” Was this apparent “perception” of the heart an example of when we “just know” something, but are not sure how we know it? Some people call this “gut knowing,” but maybe it is more appropriately “heart knowing.”

[Kindred]

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.
A. Lincoln

[conk]

The wisest know that the masses will stone them to death for being wiser, so those with wisdom remain silent. The old sage realizes he can't get through to the ignorant, so silence prevails.

Also, the wiser one gets comes the knowing that all is illusion and speaking about the knowledge is fruitless. that it is best to share wisdom by example, not by teaching. Be the world you want to live in and as others resonate with you the power of truth grows exponentially.

[Linderlou]

Oh my... I thought it was just me.... :silent:

[Sean]

Confirming that keeping it shut is the mark of wisdom. That finally clicked for me, recently, at 46 years old..

There are unbelievably ignorant people in the world. Trying to show people the light usually ends up with you being burned at the stake, metaphorically. Let people figure out things on their own..I'm staying "in my lane",(forums like this under a screen name being an exception b/c anonymity and I use a VPN) unless someone directly asks me for what knowledge/wisdom I have. And even then, it depends who's asking..

[Agape]

I only wish to speak in poetry ...

and never shoot

other than flowers to the wind

my fault :flower::raining:

[gnostic9]

i know that what i think i know is what i know, so, i think, therefore i don't know if what i think i know is what i know.......aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggg! SILENCE PLEASE!

[ZooLife]

Ego is not beyond shooting itself in the foot and thus happy to be it's own martyr.

Silence is not a sign of anything just like silence is no sign of knowing (or not).

I may paint myself in a corner all the while knowing but what is the reward? A red balloon?

Oh please, oh please, may it be a red balloon......

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[ZooLife]

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.
A. Lincoln

Was it foolish to pen such a quote all the while knowing it will remove all doubt? Or is the quote an exception to it's own premise?

We may play the fool but there is plenty of room on this ship for friends.

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[pueblo]

He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know.
-Lao Tzu

[sirdipswitch]

I... agree with, Lao Tzu :wizard: