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Matt P
9th April 2016, 11:32
People from other parts of the world may wonder why Americans are so stupid for electing the leaders we do. Heck, many Americans say the same thing. I used to hear things like, "How could so many people be so stupid to elect George Bush...twice!?" And this is a good one, "Why do you Americans keep electing criminals to office?" I realized shortly after the fraudulent 2000 election (that gave us the Shrub), this belief/feeling was conditioned programming meant to turn people against each other. Fact is, since computerized voting machines were introduced, there is no such thing as a fair and reliable election anymore...in any state or country in the entire world that uses them. It is incredibly easy to hack the machines and leave no trace. This is why I refuse to participate in any election anymore. It is pointless. 300 million Americans could walk in to the booth and vote for Jesus and the Pope (usually about 50 million wins a presidential election) and the results would still favor the establishment criminal candidate.

If you have never seen how easy it is, watch this short video:

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Notice towards the end the woman crying with the realization that a vote means nothing and thinking about all the people who work so hard on elections and all the people who are ridiculed for trying to make them fair.

I'm pretty sure one of the women in the video is Bev Harris of Black Box Voting, a pioneer in the field of exposing election hacks. If you want more background on Bev and her work, check out her site sometime. http://blackboxvoting.org/

But, you may wonder, hasn't anyone come forward about this? Yep.

Not long after that 2000 election fiasco we got to see Clinton Curtis, the man hired to design the hack (he thought he was designing a safety feature to fix errors), testify in Congress to what he had done.

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You heard all about that didn't you? :confused:

There have been others. Have you seen them? :sherlock: Share what you know if you have.

You think this only happens in the USA? Think again. Here's just one clue about an organization that was rigging elections all over Latin America...

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This is just the tip of the iceberg folks.

You would also be wise to do a quick search to realize who owns those voting machines. Find out and the picture will become even clearer.

So, next time you have that thought, "How could they be so stupid to elect..." remember you are being brainwashed to turn against your neighbors, whether down the street or in another country.
Same goes if you are offended by someone who refuses to vote. How many times have you heard, "If you don't vote you have no right to complain."? Maybe they already know there is no such thing as a vote.

You can pull into a gas station, pay with a card and get a printout of what you spent, the time, day and year. But you can't get a printed receipt of the proof of who you voted for in your country's biggest and most important elections...elections that determine the course of history. Yes, our history and our future are being hacked.

So, if we're stupid it's not because of who we elect, it's because we allow ourselves to be so easily deceived. Chances are good, if you vote, you are, too.

Matt

WhiteLove
9th April 2016, 13:04
Thanks for this Matt, I have always found all of the annoying election results out there to be like this. To overcome this issue one would need to have a separate system registering the same votes on a different system to authenticate the votes. That different system would be a totally open system that anyone at any time can logon to in order to trace the votes.

All who voted must logon to that system to authenticate their vote, the result of each authentication would then distribute to a bittorrent type of network with all of the nodes present on that distributed network, where re-authentication would occur on a set of random nodes. The result of all of the authenticated votes in all systems would then yield a verdict checksum within the network. The verdict checksum would then be used to authenticate the final verdict on the primary voting system. The verdict checksum should contain your vote in it, so that anyone at anytime could also verify their particular vote within the verdict checksum and how each re-authentication on each control node contributed to that checksum. For a verdict checksum to authenticate OK, not a single authentication system on any vote would be allowed to report differently - the bittorrent vote authentication system is authenticated as well.

You can fool a single point of entry, but you cannot fool the combination of millions of random discrete points of entry.

Calz
9th April 2016, 16:56
Both parties have made it crystal clear (to anyone not yet aware) that regardless of the public vote ... they will pick their own.

There *is* no vote in amerika.

ZooLife
9th April 2016, 21:27
Not to take away in the least regarding the electronic rigging of elections but the 'hack' starts well before the election with the vetting of candidates that are on the ballot come election day.

Matt P
9th April 2016, 22:02
Not to take away in the least regarding the electronic rigging of elections but the 'hack' starts well before the election with the vetting of candidates that are on the ballot come election day.

Very true and there are MANY other ways. The hack is just one of the last options when all the others fail. Remember Greg Palast broke the story in December of 2000 about the voter purges in Florida. Again, just one of so many dirty tricks. Great comment.

Matt

wnlight
9th April 2016, 23:54
Matt is entirely correct. For eight years I have stayed out of the voting booths. I will not return. I continue to tell people that the ballot box is broken.

Michelle Marie
10th April 2016, 01:23
I don't vote at the polls. I vote with where I place my attention.

Focusing on solutions backed by action.

:heart: MM

chancy
10th April 2016, 06:41
Hello Everyone:
Great to hear the information on: "There is no such thing as voting if you vote on a computer".

BUT I would say there is no such thing as democracy.

Here is the truth about voting using computers and the grandma who exposed it all.

Hacking Democracy - Full Documentary
Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7W7rHxTsH0&nohtml5=False

chancy

Matt P
10th April 2016, 11:18
I don't vote at the polls. I vote with where I place my attention.

Focusing on solutions backed by action.

:heart: MM

Love it. This could be the start of the thread of how do you vote if not in an election. :)

I vote with my wallet. I try to make only conscious purchases, recognizing my dollars support the kinds of businesses I want to see prosper in the kind of world I want to live in.

Matt

Soda
10th April 2016, 18:03
3327333274Hi Matt,
THIS is SO important - thank you! My husband (the poor dear) is all about Donald Trump because he says he is sick of the establishment. Oh ok. This is after years of watching Papa Bush and his people convince him of lies via that television. When I met him in 2001, I tried to explain to him that he wasn't living in the country he thought he was. He just rolled his eyes and was distracted by my awesome looks. Poor dear. Just this morning, I took these pictures (4/10/16) and attempted to show them to him. He laughed and said, "oh here we go again with the spraying conspiracy!" The moment people like my darling husband realize what is happening, it's all over. These guys are close to waking up. And once they do, the fake elections will go away quickly. If you ever have 13 hours to kill, please watch the 4th season of House of Cards on Netflix. They are telling us the truth right in our face while calling it fiction. Game is finally changing. Great thread. Again, thank you. :highfive:
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Leon55
10th April 2016, 23:21
With the Bitcoin-blockchain you can actually create a safe computerized voting system. They're already developing these types of voting machines.

quiltinggrandma
11th April 2016, 00:54
Thank you mpennery.I keep shouting this to my fellow quilters,and they are too lost in the matrix to wake up.I feel really the odd ball at times.But i do realize that my generation is the hardest to get through to.I try to keep dropping subtle phrases to them,,and sometimes get a response.They are lovely people,with much talent,,,this girl is never giving up!!!

wnlight
11th April 2016, 03:34
I voted with my feet and now live in Ecuador.

ZooLife
12th April 2016, 05:07
What will society look like when the greater portion of the populous rejects the government that it elected for us?

I wonder if government absolutely knew people would see through the charade and have been feverishly putting in place the chess pieces to suppress it. (I see so many chess pieces)

I also wonder if there are people that are having serious doubts about their government but then question their doubts because they don't see discussions about it in the mass media or a lot of people talking about it on a regular basis. It's like if things are going to change it's going to happen with people getting together in groups face-to-face.

It's like we are one people yet separate and important things do not change as separate, if you know what I mean.