Tom DeLonge, TTSA and 'Sekret Machines': Is Disclosure Going Mainstream?

[muxfolder]

[URL="https://www.instagram.com/p/BaMzyE8gQ7o/?hl=en&taken-by=tomdelonge"]declassify thousands of documents.

Frankly, I don't give a **** about those "high def ufo-footages", they'll be probably faked anyway. But thousands of documents, it is possible there might be something valuable in those documents.:) So Tom, you better knock our socks off.;) We're still waiting for something big.

[Bill Ryan]

And here's Linda Howe on all this: (with her malfunctioning low-tech teleprompter :) )


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJcCbwxv4Wg

[findingneo]

I have listened to that video with Linda Moulton Howe several times since Callista put it up on this thread a few days ago, and then another few times from the part which sticks out to me, several more times since you put it up Bill. I always love listening to Linda, and I think starting at 33.33, Linda repeats a question from one of her followers of her videos, about why do we see ET craft flying overhead, back and forth, but they don't stop to come down and tell us why they and we, are here? Linda talks about the Homo Sapien Sapien being a genetic experiment, there being warring factions over the territory and it would most probably destroy the whole experiment if one of the ET's, or the government were to tell us what it was all about, and could cause lots of problems. And that is why it is unlikely we will be told the whole story.

I imagine, we would be told the whole story, only once the cows in the fields start asking the same questions, and the farmers choose to stop to give them an answer.
Has Linda been using auto prompts prior to this in any way? I always wondered how she never wandered and meandered and was always precise and to the point.

[KiwiElf]

I have listened to that video with Linda Moulton Howe several times since Callista put it up on this thread a few days ago, and then another few times from the part which sticks out to me, several more times since you put it up Bill. I always love listening to Linda, and I think starting at 33.33, Linda repeats a question from one of her followers of her videos, about why do we see ET craft flying overhead, back and forth, but they don't stop to come down and tell us why they and we, are here? Linda talks about the Homo Sapien Sapien being a genetic experiment, there being warring factions over the territory and it would most probably destroy the whole experiment if one of the ET's, or the government were to tell us what it was all about, and could cause lots of problems. And that is why it is unlikely we will be told the whole story.

I imagine, we would be told the whole story, only once the cows in the fields start asking the same questions, and the farmers choose to stop to give them an answer.
Has Linda been using auto prompts prior to this in any way? I always wondered how she never wandered and meandered and was always precise and to the point.

Yes, this goes back to what Harley was saying above in post #245. I admit, I am curious as to what Linda may know about Tom & team's upcoming "reveals"? Linda is one of the most experienced researchers around; I don't believe she would give her support easily or lightly. A waiting game... (and the anticipation is killing me!) ;) (Sorry muxfolder, I very much want to see both: videos & documents - let's not preempt what the future will bring...:))

I say that in earnest with everything else that is happening at this time. = No accidents

[findingneo]

Yes, KiwiElf. I asked because I wondered how many thought that too. I was hoping for a bit of an expanded version regarding the ET side of it, but I expected that would most likely be part of the answer from most. Thanks for the response Norman and Harley.:sun:

[KiwiElf]

I'm having an "OMG" moment - the timing of these events, it's all connected... ALL of it. Vegas, the recent 4CHAN leaks, Trump, Hollywood, geoengineering the bizarre weather,... THIS -

WE HAD TO FIGURE IT OUT FOR OURSELVES (... and I could be wrong! :))

[Gemma13]

What about the people surrounding DeLonge that have influence over the years?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_DeLonge

Jennifer Jenkins DeLonge is an American entrepreneur, product and interior designer based in Southern California.
[…]
Jenkins has been the inspiration for numerous songs written by Tom DeLonge and performed by Blink-182, the first being the group’s hit song "All the Small Things" from its third studio album Enema of the State.

Known for: Founder, Reissued.com

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reissued.com

Funding for Reissued.com came from undisclosed investors in the amount of $500,000. To launch the app, the company brought on 14 employees which included an advisory board of notable executives such as Gary Swart, Fab co-founder Brad Shellhammer, and Michael Levinson from Facebook.

[KiwiElf]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BaMzyE8gQ7o/?hl=en&taken-by=tomdelonge

A twitchy nervous Tom, just announced the next stage is to release hi-def videos of UFO´s and also they are going to declassify thousands of documents.

This is what we were all expected in the beginning.

watch the space...:fans:

Interesting - "Page is no longer available" - fortunately, I downloaded the video... what's going on?

[Builder]

He definitively likes the masonic logo:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/44/2f/ca/442fca03c222bfe5777481dfadff08ca.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CK3f2uLW8AAlgQU.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2f/30/a1/2f30a1fa844fe408cbe80714e507e9df.jpg

[findingneo]

Hi KiwiElf, yes, the basic notion that we have been messed with at some stages along the line genetically, Norman is saying, as is Harley, De Longe, and me. I am pretty sure there are many tens of thousands of others as well that have realized that is the most likely looking scenario to them, if not more. Things diverge quite a lot after that though. What I am saying is not the same as Linda and Harley as to what I think possibly might be the "why". This "god" or that "god" potato, potato. The basics of what Tom is saying on the "Others" is not a psy op to me, not if the dots joined up basically the same way, when you did the crossword yourself, prior to Tom.

After my pointing out TDL's song on Aliens, you pointed out his songs about his dog and his sister, KiwiElf. EEW! So the picture that paints is someone who might have had questions about the UFO phenomenon from a young age that were not answered, that he was perhaps not overly abundant with integrity. What sort of thing might a rebellious young male be attracted to where he could express himself in a form that would be acceptable, and might as you (and perhaps others) pointed out lead to getting lots of tattoos and symbolism about him, that appeared to be very dubious? BTW, but could easily be explained by saying something along the lines of, "I was in a band, it's what you do, it doesn't mean anything?" I am having a bit of De Javu here. Where have I heard that before? If you were the bad guys, where would you recruit fresh blood from?

Anyway, the transhumanism part, where you join together with machines is a total no go area to me. Sounds very much like "The Borg". NOT a good idea. THAT is suss. Sounds very WO. I think building a ufo in the public domain is just another NASA, with what feels like crowdfunded, by the people type enterprise. Something tangible to look at. Another show to keep the eyes turned elsewhere.

As is Greer. Two sides of the same coin, like "Punch & Judy". Greer and Tom. And yes, a rehashed way of presenting what is going on without blame to a newer generation perhaps? The oldies will be gone, and their meddling ways, soon enough. And with the middle men presenting the information via plausible deniability.

That 10 minute interview of Linda Moulton Howe with Tom De Longe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da8mNbrJqbU

And Grant Cameron on Tom De Longe, Steven Greer, and others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9686CJRpUIM&t=35s

[KiwiElf]

Agreed - that's what I meant by "putting words - or misinterpretations - into someone else's mouth". Delonge is not the same person he was 15 years ago... (and nor are we) :)
The only logical alternative - if we put the myth of "natural human evolution" & religious dogma to one side to explain the so-called "missing link" - is intervention, by someone/something else. (ie, alien)


... and I still wanna know why his Instagram page has gone down! ;)

[ExomatrixTV]

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[findingneo]

:)KiwiElf posted that video on this thread just yesterday ExomatrixTV.

[TomKat]

According to Svali, the illuminati control the masons, the cia, the mormons, the jehovah's witnesses and the vatican. According to Leo Zagami, there are various masonic titles that include the word illuminati.


I'm 100% sure the lodge picture in that video is fake, but he has been flouting masonic symbols with his Angels and Airwaves band from the get go, and it really ramped up in 2011.

Aren't the masons, illuminati two different entities? I know a lot of the general public think they're one and the same.

Wasn't it Hoagland who said the masons are the good guys?

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Linda talks about the Homo Sapien Sapien being a genetic experiment, there being warring factions over the territory and it would most probably destroy the whole experiment if one of the ET's, or the government were to tell us what it was all about, and could cause lots of problems.

Was a good piece, always enjoy listening to LMH. On the above, that is very much correct as far as my take on it goes. But there is another aspect she didn't mention, maybe because she didn't want to go into that detail, or she doesn't think it's the case, but either way, it involves free will.

One of the most important parts of this "experiment" is the free will humanity enjoys, which apparently is something a little bit unusual. It makes this experiment special, because it can go literally anywhere. (Benevolent) ETs declaring themselves openly would be a wilful act on their part, not ours, thus it would contravene our free will.

Yes they fly around, make limited contact here and there, but their presence is veiled in ambiguity - this is deliberate. They provide enough evidence for those of us at a certain level of awareness to accept the reality, but no proof for those who do not, which gives the doubters a safe 'out'. The sceptics, not ready for this, can go about their daily business without the reality touching them, and free will - all round - is honoured and left intact.

[findingneo]

Wish I had your view on it Star Mariner, I prefer that one. Not sure it has anything to do with free will, perhaps the illusion of free will. But I would still love that view.

[Amenjo]

It looks like either there's and error on their website, or someone has donated $50M to the academy?

At the moment the funds stand at $50,347,739


Love and Truth,


Amenjo

[KiwiElf]

It looks like either there's and error on their website, or someone has donated $50M to the academy?

At the moment the funds stand at $50,347,739


Love and Truth,


Amenjo

I'm seeing $348,239 with 723 investors (which is roughly $481 avg per investor) at this timecode here:

https://dpo.tothestarsacademy.com/

[Amenjo]

It looks like either there's and error on their website, or someone has donated $50M to the academy?

At the moment the funds stand at $50,347,739


Love and Truth,


Amenjo

I'm seeing $348,239 with 723 investors (which is roughly $481 avg per investor) at this timecode here:

https://dpo.tothestarsacademy.com/


Just looked again and it's back to normal now! Must have been hacked or something. I did take a screen shot on my phone, will have to see if I can get it uploaded.


Love and Truth,


Amenjo

POST EDIT, done it :)

[KiwiElf]

Nice catch Amenjo (that was quite a slip @ 50m LOL). No updates yet (and no Instagram page either...) :(

Moving on, and this alludes to earlier posts; some people - younger ones especially - can and DO behave irrationally/rebelliously when confronted with even small personal dramas.

I had a young student of Asian descent (he was for all intensive purposes a Kiwi, raised in NZ), who would frequently throw spoilt brat tantrums when he couldn't get his own way; relatively innocent stuff like dying his hair white blond, or bizarre haircuts. One tantrum did scare me tho; after yet another fight with his girlfriend, asked me if I could make him a barcode with 666 artwork he could have tatooed on his neck. It was at that point he got a big brother lecture from me and I convinced him not to do it. It was purely for attention & to get back at the girlfriend without having the slightest knowledge or thought of the repercussions or deeper meanings.

Short end of the story; should we judge or hold DeLonge's (very old) & rebellious past and interest in Illuminati symbology against him? (That's a rhetorical question from me - but feel free to respond :))

[findingneo]

I see what KiwiElf sees too, but really well done Amenjo for getting that screen shot to prove it.

I did not pursue the following because it did not make any sense (to me) and I expected it to be jumped upon like lions to a kill, providing some answers that would make sense of it in some way, but, it was pretty much overlooked and I forgot about it. Sorry if I am missing the interpretation of this.

I shared a Grant Cameron video, after storing it, thinking I had got it from an earlier post on this thread. I actually got it from Callista's thread a month ago. I happened upon it again having forgotten about it, and am still bamboozled. Why has it been passed by, Callista's thread and the article in general that is? I saw the actual Project Camelot article prior to Callista's post on Project Camelot, and was awaiting another article with an explanation from Kerry, as I could not see one.Then I expected it to be jumped upon and talked about here, with folk who would see something and make sense of something I felt I had clearly missed. No one even appears to have left a single comment on the article I am looking at, and Callista posting it as a thread has gone unnoticed or not attracted attention. Hence, it not being bumped up to the top of the list with response posts. Excuse me for being a bit slow here, but why is this not being referred to, at all?

So the article is about Kerry Cassidy reporting from Project Camelot on an interview she had with Captain Mark Richards in jail. She says it "appears" the reason there is a push for disclosure is because the Reptilians are pushing for it, hard. And that they want to cause chaos, to aid in a takeover. She says that it appears there are "Disclosure Teams" out there, being backed by various factions.

She includes HERSELF in that group of disclosure teams, as if she were a third party, talking about someone else. And with no explanation or defence of herself and Project Camelot. What?

Then there are also "basic premises" she has listed at the end, but she does not say who the "premises" are from, are they hers? Some in my way of thinking, are contradictory.

Here is the article by Kerry Cassidy.

https://projectcamelotportal.com/2017/08/05/building-teams-for-imminent-disclosure/

Here is the thread where Callista shared it on PA.

Building Teams for Imminent Disclosure: Reptilian Push (from Project Camelot)

https://projectcamelotportal.com/2017/08/05/building-teams-for-imminent-disclosure/

Sorry for this gross use of the English language but it represents my level confusion here.....WTF?

Thanks.:confused:

[KiwiElf]

To answer part of your question Findingneo, in the "heat of the moment", we can get almost simultaneous postings, and posts DO get missed, especially if we haven't refreshed the page/thread for a while. That (and I'm guilty of it too), is that many of us jump in at the end of a post without reading the preceding posts, or where we may have left off, skipping several, and sometimes important posts, or repeating material from an earlier posting we missed. :) (now, I'll go and read your Camelot post) :bigsmile:

[findingneo]

Your above post on the 666 tattoo slipped in there prior to me posting the above or I would have included it in my response.I know you are not looking for a response. Yes, mindless attempts to fit in or something else? I have no idea. I am keeping that open. Your pointing out of his dog and sister songs does not sound so innocent. I mean who writes or even thinks that sort of stuff? A bad person who has done that? Or a really pissed off young person venting at not getting the attention about something he might have been experiencing when he was younger, saying anything then to be heard after that? I had not been following what he has been up to and I have no interest in the band he was in, but back early last year when he crossed my radar, I went and had a look at this face book page a couple of times. A woman had commented on Tom's face book page that day, seemingly dubious about his motives for alien disclosure. She asked why Tom has numerous photographs of photos of himself and selfies, with lots of what could be interpreted as Illuminati hand signals. Tom did not reply, but when I went back there a day or two later, what appeared to be a fan had responded. They said something that implied that Tom has never hidden those sorts of things about himself. Not sure what that means, or if it was an incorrect assumption, but I was suss about those hand signal affiliations. But, I don't know. Insufficient information for me to think I might know, one way or the other, for sure.

(Thanks KiwiElf, yet again you respond faster than I so I have not included a "that makes sense as to why/how it might be missed" and thanks response to your post above).

[KiwiElf]

Speaking of Illuminati hand signals and my earlier posting about "a little knowledge", I would frequently use that "signal" as a "hi", (as many people do), as some people would use the two-fingered peace sign. Until recently, I had no idea I was giving an Illuminati sign! LOL (Mr Spock's Vulcan salute is a bit more tricky!) :) We shouldn't read too much into this without looking at the bigger picture ;)

BTW - Camelot post is an excellent summary. I see Wilcock & Co are now offering their assistance to DeLonge (from David's recent 4 page posting earlier back in the thread).

This all comes down to the target audience I referred to earlier. Each person, ie Kerry, Delonge, Wilcock etc, have different & overlapping audiences. Based on the media used (ie web page, social media platforms - there are many), can be quite revealing. Delonge's announcement does indeed seem much more "mainstream" than any of the others.

[KiwiElf]

woops I added a bit (above) LOL

[findingneo]

Ha, ha, yes. And that Spock live long and prosper and hand signal thing is tricky. You use that? Ha, ha, Treky.

Thanks for the response, but what do you make of Kerry Cassidy including herself in those (potential) disclosure teams? Without explanation? Weird. Like she is talking about a separate person, pointing the finger, at herself. What?

[KiwiElf]

Ha, ha, yes. And that Spock live long and prosper and hand signal thing is tricky. You use that? Ha, ha, Treky.

Thanks for the response, but what do you make of Kerry Cassidy including herself in those (potential) disclosure teams? Without explanation? Weird. Like she is talking about a separate person, pointing the finger, at herself. What?

Oooof that would be pure speculation on my part. Kerry (and equally Bill for that matter :)) have been true "pioneers" for a long time and Camelot was, or could be considered one of the earliest internet platforms for disclosure, and continues to be. But Camelot or Avalon aren't mainstream or everyone's "cup of tea". Kerry could be positioning herself as the host who has provided the platform for an enormous amount of disclosure via her interviewed "guests", you could say - am kinda surprised that Avalon wasn't on there! ;)

[findingneo]

It would be like a reporter KiwiElf, doing a story and indicating themselves as the perpetrator, as if they were a separate person. She does not say, I interviewed MR and he seems to think I am one of a number of teams who are being pushed by a reptilian agenda, and I can tell you that is totally incorrect, I am an independent reporter who accepts no assistance except via support of donations from listeners. Instead, she is reporting as if she is making an assumption from the interview as to what is going on, indicating herself as a reptilian team, but with no explanation as to her response or feelings about it. Why are others not thinking that is totally twilight zone stuff? Makes no sense. And there is no one asking her, so have you had any indication or contact to suggest this may be the case? Etc. But, nothing. It would be like a reporter reporting on a major incident, mentioning his own name as being a possible suspect. Then, nothing. Business as usual from every direction. Twilight zone stuff.

[KiwiElf]

Ummm some may call that "ego" :) - I have no idea!

[findingneo]

Weird. Totally weird. I can't think of a thing that makes sense, except I get that glitch in the matrix type feeling. Hoping for a rational explanation, even if it means I feel totally silly after it.:loco:

Perhaps your right.

[KiwiElf]

Tom's Twitter feed still appears to be active... some "interesting" comments, right across the board - some very gullible people out there, and a few who are asking the real questions which need to be asked...

https://twitter.com/tomdelonge?lang=en

[fourty-two]

Oh for sure its going somewhat active. How else could you have a successful false flag alien invasion?

[Mike Gorman]

Oh for sure its going somewhat active. How else could you have a successful false flag alien invasion?

Aye, the sequence as revealed by von braun himself- he told us this would be the case!

[KiwiElf]

@ fourty-two & Mike Gorman
Re your comments above - Sorry..., I'm a bit tired;:help: could you please elaborate as to how you think DeLonge (or his Twitter feed) is connected to Project Blue Beam? (aka false flag alien invasion?) :confused:

[EFO]

Having been in advertising/marketing most of my working life, I'm always a little weary of sales pitches offering "shiny new objects" which don't as yet, actually exist -

Does anyone remember this? (... and who wouldn't want one - whatever it is?)

36268

If you know what it is... don't tell ;) - I'd like to hear from someone who doesn't know what it is - consider this a working experiment in perception :)

It's the new replacement of colacoca xmas truck,
https://knowridge.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Coca-Cola-Christmas-Truck-Tour.jpg

as well as TDL (nicknamed mini Greer) is the replacement for Dr. Greer :) ,despite the fact that both made "big announcements" that attract attentions of many more or less EFO believers.Which from my point of view is a good thing for that moments.


It's a M4... (you know the rest of the missing digits.

[KiwiElf]

Having been in advertising/marketing most of my working life, I'm always a little weary of sales pitches offering "shiny new objects" which don't as yet, actually exist -

Does anyone remember this? (... and who wouldn't want one - whatever it is?)

36268

If you know what it is... don't tell ;) - I'd like to hear from someone who doesn't know what it is - consider this a working experiment in perception :)

It's the new replacement of colacoca xmas truck,
https://knowridge.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Coca-Cola-Christmas-Truck-Tour.jpg

as well as TDL (nicknamed mini Greer) is the replacement for Dr. Greer :) ,despite the fact that both made "big announcements" that attract attentions of many more or less EFO believers.Which from my point of view is a good thing for that moments.


It's a M4... (you know the rest of the missing digits.

LOL yep - the (very old,... circa late 80's) brochure says, "Moller AeroBot M200 Merlin" aka Moller SkyCar - paint it black, & Batman would probably buy it! If he does get around to actually building it, I wouldn't say "No" ... I guess my Mazda will have to do! :)

:focus:

[Amenjo]

I noticed a couple of interesting replies to questions on Tom's last instagram post. Thought I'd post it here just in case he deletes them.

steveveljohnson: I love you Tom, but do you truly believe NASA is what they claim to be?
tomdelonge: @steveveljohnson Yes. There’s also a completely different space program, though.

benjmn.moon: What about trying to partner up with elon musk, spaceX, thru their Development budgets & departments?

tomdelonge: @benjmn.moon Already on the table


Love and Truth,


Amenjo

[KiwiElf]

Crossposted on another thread, here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99673-Linda-Moulton-Howe-Interviewed-By-Grant-Cameron-An-Expos--/page2

...this is Linda Moulton-Howes latest interview which updates & discusses the Delonge Live Presentation for approx the first half hour. Linda shares her reservations & revelations, some quite surprising. Notably Facebook suddenly went down as DeLonge went live and only a fraction of the intended FB audience got the feed live (ie approx 1,500 people)... interesting ... ;)

Linda Moulton Howe - Grant Cameron & Nancy Tremaine

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Published on Oct 15, 2017
Linda Moulton Howe with Grant Cameron And Nancy Tremaine on 10/12/2017 KGRA Radio

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[WhiteLove]

I think this is a very interesting video where Tom DeLonge answers some of the questions regarding some of the aims of the To the Stars Academy of Arts & Science.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhKt1uHp1lk

[KiwiElf]

I think this is a very interesting video where Tom DeLonge answers some of the questions regarding some of the aims of the To the Stars Academy of Arts & Science.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhKt1uHp1lk

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$1 billion? That's going to take a LONGE time to crowdfund without a serious injection of capital... (pun intended) ;)

[Star Tsar]

Leslie Kean's input...


Open Minds UFO Radio

http://openminds.tv/images/logo.jpg

Leslie Kean | Former US Government Officials’ New UFO Research Initiative

Broadcast 17th October 2017 | Published 18th October 2017

Leslie Kean is an independent journalist and author. Her book, UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go on the Record, is a New York Times bestseller and is one of the most influential and credible books on the topic of UFOs. Her most recent book is titled Surviving Death: A Journalist Investigates Evidence for an Afterlife. Among other media, she has been featured on CNN, MSNBC, FOX, The Colbert Report, NPR, USA Today, US News & World Report, and the Columbia Journalism Review.

Leslie is also a contributor for the Huffington Post, where she has written several high-profile articles on UFO related events that have garnered larger media attention. Two of her most recent Huffington Post articles have been about Tom DeLonge’s To the Stars Academy and the impressive list of former officials that are involved. All of these men have a passion for UFO research and in a recent press conference launching the To the Stars Academy, made some shocking statements. In this episode, we discuss the To the Stars Academy, the people involved, and what they have said regarding UFOs, also known as unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP).

Supporting Link: http://www.openminds.tv/leslie-kean-former-us-government-officials-new-ufo-research-initiative-october-17-2017/41185

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[findingneo]

Kerry Cassidy, live on what is going on right now. Includes push by various ET groups for Disclosure, Tom De Longe and To The Stars and others involved in that. Vegas. Hybrids on Earth. SSP, Reptilian agenda, and other stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhYiKEi7rlw

(Ashayana Deane is mentioned. Not saying I think Kerry is wrong about what she has said so far, but, Deane I have issues with (although what she has to say on the subject of the Grays seems to be worth considering). Here is a Reddit blog from a woman who says she is Deanes abandoned daughter. The woman claiming to be her daughter presents as well balanced, amazing considering what she went through as a child with Deane as a mother prior to leaving her).

Reddit blog with Deane's (claimed to be) daughter.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/60csf1/excult_members_of_reddit_how_were_you_introduced/

[Sequoia]

Been listening to Camelot live ^ for past about 15mins now and so far Kerri's doing great

[findingneo]

Interesting slip of the tongue from Kerry regarding the Ancient Aliens type doco she was asked to participate in. She at first says, she was asked by the military, and then kind of corrects herself to being asked to do the doco, but does not mention the military again, like that comment regarding the military was a random mistake. Or was it a slip of the tongue?

Kerry is saying that part of the "To The Stars" role, is to gather stories on abduction and ET experiences, to be fed directly to the military, so that the military can be alerted to the ET's that have slipped through the net. Kerry says, rather similar to MUFON, who she says collects similar information. (I have seen or heard Simon Parkes, say online, that he worked out that MUFON must be run by, or have a strong CIA connection. Simon worked this out due to dealings he had with MUFON ans then subsequent interest from the FBI, or something like that).

[Sequoia]

If you are refererring to what I'm thinking, the intelligence wanted to pick her brain and find out what she knew (ie what they don't know), under the pretense that she was being auditioned for a new production..

[findingneo]

That had not even crossed my mind Sequoia, but is a sensible possibility. For me, I would not have even thought of a possible military connection and influence on such an Ancient Aliens style documentary, had Kerry not had a slip of the tongue there. But it makes sense as well, after a bit of thought.

Kerry is talking here and there about Stargates that are currently active, that can take you to other dimensions that is a one way trip, if anyone wants it. She is talking higher vibrational dimensions. A kind of instant ascension it seems. She also points out, we are here though to fulfill a role, and that we could stay to do that role.

I recall Whitley Streiber saying similar regarding the ET's offering an Ascension type thing, where you can step through into a different and higher dimension to Ascend, more or less. One way trip I think. Problem is, with either option, what are your guarantees, that your destination matches what it says on the brochure? There ain't none!

[Callista]

Just follow the money: an investigation into the To The Stars Academy:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO-hAm4g47o&feature=share

[Bill Ryan]

Just follow the money: an investigation into the To The Stars Academy:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO-hAm4g47o&feature=share

Sadly, I'm not a bit surprised.

None of this is about altruism, or service to humanity. It never has been.

[KiwiElf]

Just follow the money: an investigation into the To The Stars Academy:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO-hAm4g47o&feature=share

Sadly, I'm not a bit surprised.

None of this is about altruism, or service to humanity. It never has been.

So far, all I'm seeing, is Tom DeLonge being used by the Cabal as a "useful idiot" - a distraction to side step what's really going on (ie black ops & reverse engineering since the 1940's), while wowing an unsuspecting, largely ignorant & gullible public with a new type of "iPhone" - aka "WOW device" (if the crowdfunding will even generate sufficient funds to achieve that). Difference being, at least Steve Jobs walked out with an actual iPhone that was real, it worked, and an impressed crowd could buy it right then.

TO TOM: You mentioned a figure of a Billion dollars to make an "over unity device", (and 10 years to accomplish it). Hate to tell you Tom, it already exists. Why don't you ask your pal from LH Martin?

OK, we might get to see some previously unseen docos, video & documentation of "UFO"s, now cleverly re-marketed as UAP's (Unexplained Aerial Phenomena) because only crazy people believe in "UFO's", right? (Have to remove the stigma associated with that...) ;). So what? We already know they exist. Which ones are "theirs" and which ones are ours?

Tell us about...

The unaccounted trillions of dollars sunk into reverse engineering these projects already, and paid for by the American people Tom?
The number of people murdered to keep it secret.
Tell us about the SSP.

What do you get out of this? Really? :sun:

(This is much the same way Leonardo Di Caprio is a "useful idiot" to the Cabal in perpetuating the climate change scam).

[norman]

Just follow the money: an investigation into the To The Stars Academy:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO-hAm4g47o&feature=share

Sadly, I'm not a bit surprised.

None of this is about altruism, or service to humanity. It never has been.

It almost feels like the only thing left delaying things is the repeated failures to graft a new money system onto "disclosure".

As if their biggest fear is a conciousness shift that makes us all abandon the 'for profit' model they are hanging on tight to as their control system. They know the population would reject a straight Mil' Ind' complex corporate for profit model so the next best thing is to print their control model onto what they hope we will see as alternative and new.

The celebrity culture is the "New" face on the same old money control system. We are supposed to not notice, because, well, celebrities are wealthy, and they have a right to be rich etc etc . . . not the same old corporate greed brand, but just as rigged and controlled as ever.

Depressingly, the kiddy cosmic backbackers probably DO see it as fresh, alternative and new. No surprise they are being recruited as the mob to bum-rush us dregs of a proper education and moral compass off the cultural hospice cliff.

[Callista]

As if their biggest fear is a conciousness shift that makes us all abandon the 'for profit' model they are hanging on tight to as their control system.

As if their biggest fear is a conciousness shift - this hits the nail on the head, norman!

Also, curious that the DeLonge operation is really a GoFundMe disguised as an elaborate space program - shades of the Peterson/Wilcock GoFundMe debacle...

[norman]

Also, curious that the DeLonge operation is really a GoFundMe disguised as an elaborate space program - shades of the Peterson/Wilcock GoFundMe debacle...

From the bankers point of view, crowd funding lets them off the hook of responsibility for any funding of anything at all. They don't have to take calculated risks to fund projects. The "crowd" takes all the risk, but the banks have all the money on deposit at all times.

And guess what, . . . we just happen to have moved into an era of low or no interest rates from the banks for our deposits.

What's wrong with this picture ?

I have an anthropological interest in the sound of laughing bankers. Where did I put my sound recorder . . . . . . . .

[KiwiElf]

Also, curious that the DeLonge operation is really a GoFundMe disguised as an elaborate space program - shades of the Peterson/Wilcock GoFundMe debacle...



From the bankers point of view, crowd funding lets them off the hook of responsibility for any funding of anything at all. They don't have to take calculated risks to fund projects. The "crowd" takes all the risk, but the banks have all the money on deposit at all times.

What's wrong with this picture ?

Everything... to those who are awake enough :) (which doesn't include the sheeple who think the Sun shines out of his "you-know-where" ;) - check out some of the comments on his Twitter feed ... Sad! :p

[findingneo]

Meant to be a bit of a bonding session me thinks as well. Pretend they don't already have that tech elsewhere, and let the public who put money forward feel a part of it. I doubt they would get enough to do anything with it, unless there was a planned donor of some big money. Having said that, there will be a certain amount of sacrifice to the high level individuals involved, to help bring this forward, even if it is very controlled and limited.

[Joe from the Carolinas]

Here are my views on his "big reveal" cough CIA NSA DOD cough :)

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[Foxie Loxie]

Thanks, Joe, for once again ferreting out & "disclosing"!! If David Wilcock is the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce, then YOU are the reincarnation of Will Rogers! :ROFL:
I missed hearing the babbling brook & I must say your green Budding Revolution medallion doesn't show up as well as the former one.:bigsmile:

Of course this has to be a very controlled operation & I have been wondering in the back of my mind exactly HOW TPTB were going to crawl out from under 70 years of denial? Apparently, this is IT! It all had to get started somehow, right?! After Bill & Kerry got the ball rolling & so many people started waking up to the reality of what was going on around us....what's to be done?! :blushing:

If we are to believe Bob Dean, yes, we already have a point to point way of transferring here on Earth. He, himself, has experienced what we might call a "time compression" happening. I was also made to think about David Adair's experience with Steven Greer. David did get to testify to Congress, but was not allowed to talk to the Press at that time. My understanding of what David said was that he was talked into going because he thought there would be many others there who had "hard" evidence. The fact that David just went about his own life, made his own living & didn't try to become a celebrity off what happened to him at age 17 speaks volumes. Hopefully, Bill, in his second interview will fill us in on his "happenings"! :ufo:

Thanks again, Joe....excellent, as always! :cool:

[KiwiElf]

That's the trick Foxie, "they" have no intention of crawling out from that very deep rabbit hole,... ;) I believe the intention is to distract us from that with DeLonge... "Hey, look over here and see what we've just discovered!... WOW! - Give us your money & we will (MAYbe) build one for you!" :facepalm:

[we-R-one]

Hey turn on Coast to Coast right now if you haven't missed it yet in your area, George Knapp is on and I think he's going to briefly discuss Tom DeLonge's project in the first half.

[Callista]

George Knapp had booked Tom DeLonge but at the last minute DeLonge backed out, apparently his lawyers advised him against doing any public interviews.

Make of that what you will...

[we-R-one]

If David Wilcock is the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce, then YOU are the reincarnation of Will Rogers!

You may be interested in knowing that Robin Williams has been identified as the reincarnation of Will Rogers by well known Akashic Record reader Kevin Ryerson:
http://www.iisis.net/index.php?page=robin-williams-reincarnation-will-rogers-past-life-suicide-kevin-ryerson-walter-semkiw&hl=en_US



George Knapp had booked Tom DeLonge but at the last minute DeLonge backed out, apparently his lawyers advised him against doing any public interviews.

Make of that what you will...

Apparently the reason behind DeLonge's absence is due to the direction he plans on taking his corporate adventure. It has something to do with regulations of the Securities and Exchange Commission which means he's taking his company public....rolling my eyes.....I think where they lose some of us is making everything about the money.

From the Coast to Coast show last night:

On a sunny day in November 2004, off the coast of San Diego, the USS Nimitz battle group encountered a technology beyond anything known on earth. It was a mysterious aircraft shaped like a 46-foot long Tic Tac that hovered and maneuvered for hours and defied the F-18's sent to intercept (related report). UFO researcher Jeremy Corbell joined George Knapp to discuss how an investigation by the US Navy of the incident was hushed up, and the only public mention was in a little known aviation magazine read by pilots.

The craft was referred to as an AAV-- anomalous aerial vehicle, and multiple sightings of such craft were observed over a number of days leading up to the Nimitz incident. A USO (unidentified submersible object) was seen underneath the AAV, and the aerial craft seemed to be docking with the object on water, before darting off at an enormous speed, Corbell recounted. The AAV's unknown technology was captured in this leaked footage of the incident.

Corbell also discussed his recently released documentary, Patient Seventeen, about the late Dr. Roger Leir's 17th alien implant removal surgery. The patient had a history of alien abduction events, and reported that the foreign object that was removed had been in his leg for 10 years. Analysis of the removed object revealed toxic rare earth elements, Corbell cited, as well as isotopes of zinc 64 that appeared to be outside the terrestrial norm.
Tom DeLonge's New Academy

Former high-level officials and scientists with deep black ops experience who have always remained in the shadows came forward on one platform last week with Tom DeLonge's new endeavor "To The Stars Academy." UFO researcher and author Leslie Kean was at the announcement event and discussed how Academy members such as Luis Eiizondo, who ran an important program at the DOD, practically confirmed the fact that UFOs are real. Kean was able to verify that Elizondo headed up a program that studied aerial threats, and that the Dept. of Defense continued to pay attention to UFOs many years after Project Blue Book ended. For more, see Kean's related articles: one | two.

Source: https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2017/10/22

Currently if you go the the site above and click on the link to watch the Tic Tac footage it doesn't work. I haven't had a chance to surf around and find it...maybe it's posted on Jeremy Corbell's site.

The information reported by Leslie Kean was interesting and one can perceive the statements made by former DOD(DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE) employee Luis Eiizondo as another form of disclosure.

[Bill Ryan]

From the Coast to Coast show last night:

On a sunny day in November 2004, off the coast of San Diego, the USS Nimitz battle group encountered a technology beyond anything known on earth. It was a mysterious aircraft shaped like a 46-foot long Tic Tac that hovered and maneuvered for hours and defied the F-18's sent to intercept (related report). UFO researcher Jeremy Corbell joined George Knapp to discuss how an investigation by the US Navy of the incident was hushed up, and the only public mention was in a little known aviation magazine read by pilots.

The craft was referred to as an AAV-- anomalous aerial vehicle, and multiple sightings of such craft were observed over a number of days leading up to the Nimitz incident. A USO (unidentified submersible object) was seen underneath the AAV, and the aerial craft seemed to be docking with the object on water, before darting off at an enormous speed, Corbell recounted. The AAV's unknown technology was captured in this leaked footage of the incident.

~~~

Source: https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2017/10/22

Currently if you go the the site above and click on the link to watch the Tic Tac footage it doesn't work. I haven't had a chance to surf around and find it...maybe it's posted on Jeremy Corbell's site.


In the Avalon Library, here:


http://avalonlibrary.net/Tic_Tac_UFO.mp4 (21 Mb)

[we-R-one]

oh good thanks Bill! You must have downloaded from the original 'footage' link...I was a bit leery to do it myself as you never know if you're gonna get some virus.

Pretty obvious to me this is a form of disclosure as they are 'allowing' this information to be revealed.

[Star Tsar]

If David Wilcock is the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce, then YOU are the reincarnation of Will Rogers!

You may be interested in knowing that Robin Williams has been identified as the reincarnation of Will Rogers by well known Akashic Record reader Kevin Ryerson:
http://www.iisis.net/index.php?page=robin-williams-reincarnation-will-rogers-past-life-suicide-kevin-ryerson-walter-semkiw&hl=en_US



George Knapp had booked Tom DeLonge but at the last minute DeLonge backed out, apparently his lawyers advised him against doing any public interviews.

Make of that what you will...

Apparently the reason behind DeLonge's absence is due to the direction he plans on taking his corporate adventure. It has something to do with regulations of the Securities and Exchange Commission which means he's taking his company public....rolling my eyes.....I think where they lose some of us is making everything about the money.

From the Coast to Coast show last night:

On a sunny day in November 2004, off the coast of San Diego, the USS Nimitz battle group encountered a technology beyond anything known on earth. It was a mysterious aircraft shaped like a 46-foot long Tic Tac that hovered and maneuvered for hours and defied the F-18's sent to intercept (related report). UFO researcher Jeremy Corbell joined George Knapp to discuss how an investigation by the US Navy of the incident was hushed up, and the only public mention was in a little known aviation magazine read by pilots.

The craft was referred to as an AAV-- anomalous aerial vehicle, and multiple sightings of such craft were observed over a number of days leading up to the Nimitz incident. A USO (unidentified submersible object) was seen underneath the AAV, and the aerial craft seemed to be docking with the object on water, before darting off at an enormous speed, Corbell recounted. The AAV's unknown technology was captured in this leaked footage of the incident.

Corbell also discussed his recently released documentary, Patient Seventeen, about the late Dr. Roger Leir's 17th alien implant removal surgery. The patient had a history of alien abduction events, and reported that the foreign object that was removed had been in his leg for 10 years. Analysis of the removed object revealed toxic rare earth elements, Corbell cited, as well as isotopes of zinc 64 that appeared to be outside the terrestrial norm.
Tom DeLonge's New Academy

Former high-level officials and scientists with deep black ops experience who have always remained in the shadows came forward on one platform last week with Tom DeLonge's new endeavor "To The Stars Academy." UFO researcher and author Leslie Kean was at the announcement event and discussed how Academy members such as Luis Eiizondo, who ran an important program at the DOD, practically confirmed the fact that UFOs are real. Kean was able to verify that Elizondo headed up a program that studied aerial threats, and that the Dept. of Defense continued to pay attention to UFOs many years after Project Blue Book ended. For more, see Kean's related articles: one | two.

Source: https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2017/10/22

Currently if you go the the site above and click on the link to watch the Tic Tac footage it doesn't work. I haven't had a chance to surf around and find it...maybe it's posted on Jeremy Corbell's site.

The information reported by Leslie Kean was interesting and one can perceive the statements made by former DOD(DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE) employee Luis Eiizondo as another form of disclosure.

Listen while one can...


Coast To Coast AM

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/images/placeholder-staticpage.jpg

Leslie Kean & Jeremy Corbell | Mysterious UFO Technology | Host : George Knapp

Aired 22nd October 2017 | Published 23rd October 2017

In the first half, UFO researcher Jeremy Corbell joined George Knapp to discuss how an investigation by the US Navy of an incident was hushed up, and the only public mention was in a little known aviation magazine read by pilots.

Former high-level officials and scientists with deep black ops experience who have always remained in the shadows came forward on one platform last week with Tom DeLonge's new endeavor "To The Stars Academy." UFO researcher and author Leslie Kean was at the announcement event and discussed how Academy members such as Luis Eiizondo, who ran an important program at the DOD, practically confirmed the fact that UFOs are real.

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[KiwiElf]

Thank you, we-R-one & Star Tsar! Downloading it now ;)

(OMG - the Flying Saucer out of "The Invaders". LOL - the TV series was actually pretty accurate! Gawd, now I'm showin' my age!) :)

:focus:

[we-R-one]

Wow, lots of interesting information to absorb since I’ve been gone. Thanks to everyone who posted the additional videos, I’ve spent an afternoon going through some of them. Upfront I’ll share I haven’t listened to DeLonge’s presentation as it hit while I was out of the country and I’m trying to play catch up. Honestly I haven’t been too impressed by him or his entourage from day one. After listening to Linda and Grant, I’m even more not impressed and in fact my concerns continues with the direction they plan on pursuing and the true intention behind their motives. A couple of quick bullet points that caught my attention in the Linda/Grant interview regarding Tom's group:

*Chris Bledsoe pulled out of talks with DeLonge, ‘because he didn’t want their branding’- referring to Tom & Co………………Says to me this group is going to be very controlling if you sign up or plan on sharing any information with them. Sounds like the makings of MUFON all over again who’s known to be CIA infiltrated.

*Hal Puthoff!
You know I really don’t want to touch this one with a ten foot pole…sigh….From my understanding this guy is a master of psychological warfare….known to share the company of creepy John B. Alexander(notice how he seems to be inserted everywhere within the UFO community?), another mastermind of psyopsing….Look them up on your own and you decide for yourself if you get a warm and fuzzy feeling. Just my opinion, but do your own research.

*Jim Semivan is former CIA!
‘He’s the big guy-the key guy of Tom’s group running Tom’s operation’- Grant Cameron in recent interview with Lind Moulton Howe

*Ron Pandolfi-Ex-CIA

It was Grant Cameron who shared with us in an interview that you never really leave the CIA.

“…And this is how this game is played, is that, a lot of these people are retired from the CIA, but as in Chase Brandon, who is one of the ‘magicians’, he said, It’s like Hotel California, you can check out but you can’t leave. And all CIA people continue to work under contract, they’re just no longer with the CIA and they do contract work.”- UFO researcher Grant Cameron said in a recent interview July 11, 2017. - (Grant Cameron talks in his hotel room at the Alien Cosmic Expo in Toronto, 2017)

Tom’s endeavor is no doubt an extension of a government who’s already betrayed the trust of their people, how can we think any different? So I believe, as many of you do too, what you’re watching is the continual takeover of the UFO community so they can control every aspect and angle. And since they are a direct link to our government, why are they asking for more money? Seriously please give them nothing! They’ve been stealing our money for years! What was it that Tom DeLonge said….’hopefully in participation with the government’…..He’s basically telling you they are the government. The people on his team don’t just jump off their long tenured high paying jobs to join Tom & Co. because it would be so much fun to explore a different adventure…..This is well planned and thought out and as Kerry Cassidy states in her video, ‘this is the way our government is choosing to disclose at this time.’.

Also, notice how they changed the verbiage/language of sightings….It’s no longer UFO, but rather Unidentified Flying Threat? I think Kerry might have missed the strategy on this one…..as I would be asking, is it really a ‘threat’ or are they creating a false reality by implication there of in the change of words for the impending wars they plan to continue in heaven’s skies? These people are masters of manipulation so the public will be subjected to extensive psyop techniques…And how could one forget this quote from an interview just a few years ago….

“We saw everything that entered the atmosphere because everything that enters the atmosphere, that I’m aware of, creates a heat signature as it enters the atmosphere, and I never saw any UFO’s or anything we couldn’t identify. So, uh, while I would love to believe in UFO’s, I never saw any evidence of it while I worked at NORAD.” MAJOR BILL DONAHUE

Statement made in an interview with John B. Wells on Caravan to Midnight, February 2014, said around the 1:57:00 mark

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Donahue

MAJOR DONAHUE worked at Cheyenne Mountain inside the prestigious NORAD Command Center. He went on to say, at the time he was working there, they were able to track up to 18,000 items in orbit such as bolts and space gloves and various other space junks. He was 1 of 5 officers who determined if we were under nuclear attack or not.

We go from being told there’s no evidence of UFO’s, to suddenly they’re a ‘threat’. And isn’t it NORAD officials telling us there’s nothing going on in their own backyard where less than 3 hours away from the most sophisticated military ‘aerospace warning’ and defense in North America, we have countless cattle mutilations taking place and we’re suppose to believe that ‘they’ can’t figure out the cause....uh....ya...ok

Unfortunately Mr. Caravan to Midnight was sleeping at the helm when DONAHUE made his statement and let this one slide by not even questioning the remark or offering the poor listener proper clarification! Unbelievable! Adding another wtf moment to my alternative media experiences.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Aerospace_Defense_Command
North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD, /ˈnɔːræd/), known until March 1981 as the North American Air Defense Command, is a combined organization of the United States and Canada that provides aerospace warning, air sovereignty, and protection for Northern America.[4] Headquarters for NORAD and the NORAD/United States Northern Command (USNORTHCOM) center are located at Peterson Air Force Base in El Paso County, near Colorado Springs, Colorado. The nearby Cheyenne Mountain Complex has the Alternate Command Center. The NORAD commander and deputy commander (CINCNORAD) are, respectively, a United States four-star general or equivalent and a Canadian three-star general or equivalent.

As mentioned, I watched Kerry’s video someone posted and agree with some of her viewpoints as I’ve drawn the same conclusions.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhYiKEi7rlw

It does seem apparent this planet is an ‘experiment’ on many different levels and it’s something I explored deeply and continue to explore as it’s tied to my own personal story in this life time as I believe I was one of those ‘experiments’. In the future, I'll try and share on Avalon if time permits. I can also share after studying the reincarnation field in depth and researching my own cases, and those of my research partner, I could clearly see there are battles taking place amongst various souls. To understand this is to understand the bigger story just as Kerry suggests. Reincarnation is not a New Age concept, but very real indeed! It's happening right under our noses and if you're still not a believer, truly research it because you're in for a rude awakening as it becomes a more established belief.

You have souls drawn to one another who are battling out their differences on planet Earth. Imagine who they really are and what E.T. race they represent and that's where things start to get interesting. To make sense of things you would have to know people's past life identities. As I mentioned in the Bob Lazar thread, someone at the top is very aware of specific individuals identities as you will occasionally see headline news interjecting insinuations of peoples past life profiles! I became aware of this going on a few years ago while studying my identities....Imagine the look on my face while I was watching a syndicated series about one of my past lives where the story line was about my wedding over 475 years ago..Immediately after the wedding scene, the commercial played was exactly where I bought my wedding dress in this lifetime! It basically said they knew who and where I was, lol. This was one of many things I observed while watching the series. Other aspects pertaining to my soul group and roles I played in different past lives had been inserted into the scripts! So if they're doing it to me, they're doing it to others and it's the equivalent to feeling like you're being punked....or better yet...yes, it's just like being in The Truman Show. As you can imagine, this is a truth that may be too difficult for some to handle.

oMg is all I can say....:pop2: , but for me, I watch with amusement and I speak out to confirm what others are discovering through different avenues of research, such as Kerry. If there's ever a moment in time when we know just about everyone's past life identities, you may find hidden gems of revelations within the CIA infiltrated block buster movies and syndicated T.V. programs and wonder how you missed it all along.

[KiwiElf]

Hi we-R-one, awesome post above - thankyou, it got me wondering a bit further...

I may be answering my own question here I put to fourty-two & Mike Gorman re Project Bluebeam (posts#282-284, previous page):

Is it possible this is some kind of bigger psyop to monitor our feedback or reactions on the 2 x different camps to see which will be the most effective in actually going ahead with Bluebeam? eg

Greer - no hostile ETs
DeLonge - ETs are a threat
...(and a perfect excuse for "them" to get off the hook for all the secrecy, reverse engineering & eventually declare (a staged) war on ETs = Project Bluebeam)? "They" also wouldn't have to reveal the advanced reverse engineered "stuff" they already have.

Sorry to say it but Nick Pope & Leslie Kean alluded to a "UFO/ET threat" in a TV doco just before she released her book,

"UFOs - Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go on the Record"

To add some "weight" to that, since at least 2010, Stephen Hawking has also spoken publicly about his fears that "an advanced alien civilization would have no problem wiping out the human race the way a human might wipe out a colony of ants."

(Not to mention the plethora of movies over the last few years with "evil aliens" of some description, destroying humans in one form or another. (Programming))

Although most alternative sites and those with an interest & knowledge are aware of it , the general public at large aren't. Sure, we could call "them" out on it if & when it actually happens but would anyone actually "hear" us OR be able to do anything about it? (I'm thinking the Las Vegas coverup & the info now leaking out about the Clinton's Uranium scam - ironically, the "common denominator" is the same ;)). FOX are about the only News station covering the latter in the US.

Oh yeah, we may get partial disclosure in the process but perhaps we should be careful what we wish for! ;)

While the Clintons et al may be about to get locked up as we hope, who controls the SSP/reverse engineered, high-tech "stuff" out there?

Furthermore, I'm convinced "they" have (or soon will have) the capability of pulling off Bluebeam, complete with "aliens", super advanced craft/weapons/UFO's (made here) and most of the population wouldn't have a clue. (In any case, they'd be too busy ducking for cover to care).

If the various [B]credible whistleblowers on the SSP are to be believed, "they" could put on a really spectacular - and believable - "War of the Worlds invasion!" (some of the craft mentioned were enormous!) :confused:

[we-R-one]

It appears Tom & Co. are taking the direction there's an alien threat. Remember what Tom said in some of his first interviews....'this is a matter of national security...' Oh and by the way it's going to take 7 books for him to explain it all. LMAO....I'm sorry I don't mean to laugh, but if it was a matter of national security wouldn't you think they'd find a quicker way to tell the public? Most people don't have the time or patience to sort through 7 books and his target audience are strapped for cash, up to their eyeballs in debt, and have families to support, so completely unrealistic in reaching the target audience in this manner. Plus....you are guessing what is true and what is fantasy in the writings! How annoying! On the other hand, I do understand how difficult it is to share information in a quick and concise manner especially when you've been lying to the public for so long. Movies are the quickest means, so his entertainment division makes sense.....But it's nothing new as information has been inserted into films for decades.

Unfortunately I don't see much good coming out of his endeavor in the manner we had hoped to see. Likely they'll play both sides, Greer/DeLonge to capture a wider audience. All we can do is watch. These people have 0 credibility and like Kerry said 'they're already lying right out of the gate'. You can spend countless hours tracking all these individuals in the ufology community and their various tales and still not know what the actually truth is.

The problem is ....integrity.....and if they're already 'lying right out of the gate', it doesn't leave much hope they have the best interest of the people in mind. I sure wish more women (who are balanced!) would be allowed to be involved, then you might see a difference. The continual dominance of the over-patriarchal presence is troubling. Sadly, men have an ego problem, it's how they're wired. We have an imbalance in society in our leadership roles which is a reflection of society as a whole. We continue on the path where our technology surpasses the spirituality, we are our own worst enemies. We have no business terraforming other planets till we fix our own.

As far as Nick Pope, Leslie Kean and Stephen Hawking...likely all paid shills promoting 'the agenda'. Notice Huffington Post was the only news media to cover the announcement? They're basically a mouth piece for the liberal left which is the arm of the 'deep state' machine, so what does that tell you?

Personally I'm not buying into the fear...that is sooo 3D. The truth is, you live, die and repeat. You are immortal, so there's nothing 'they' can do to you. How many millions of years has this been going on? Remember Dr. John Brandenburg's work....2 EMP's detonated over Mars 250 million years ago...Obviously done by a very advanced race! And guess what....some of us were there!

So enjoy 'the show', but don't lose your head over it, is what I would recommend. 'The Solution' is found in focusing on changing the energetic foundation of the planet. Your body is energy and your choices have energetic consequences. Systems fix nothing, wars fix nothing, and fancy advanced exotic propulsion technologies do nothing to address the spiritual decay of the human race. Yes..these people are soo intelligent with high IQ's and yet the most important aspect to address is left in the dust. Your choices and behavior have everything to do with humanity's survival and teaching your children the same and so on and so on is what needs to be restored. Make choices that affect the Aether Field in positive way. Eat higher vibrational foods! Every effort helps no matter how small.
https://www.livestrong.com/article/31289-list-higher-vibrational-foods/

This is where it's at:
“The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence. To understand the true nature of the universe, one must think it terms of energy, frequency and vibration.”- Nikola Tesla

[Bill Ryan]

To risk a really simplistic summary: :)

We have a three-way disclosure war going on.


Steven Greer.
Tom DeLonge (and Co).
Jay Weidner, Corey Goode, Michael Salla, Gaia TV (and Co).

I am 100% convinced that all three groups are compromised, but have different agendas.

[Iancorgi]

Tom Delonge on Jre yesterday. Joe Rogan is a great interviewer and a healthy skeptic but there's nothing new here from Tom more "You'll see soon, I can't tell you and if you only knew" stuff.

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[David Trd1]

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Interesting discussion...

Enjoy:ranger:


[Mod-edit: I merged your thread with this pre-existing one, Hervé]

[Domp4547]

Wow, I really hope somebody caught the last little bit of audio before the stream shut down, you can clearly hear Tom asked okay are we off? Then Joe's response yes then Tom says let me show you something then the stream ended I could only imagine what he was telling him at that moment.

[sunwings]

There is a reason why the elites have chosen Leonardo Di Caprio to talk about climate change and George Clooney to talk about fairtrade.

They are both excellent actors and either one would have been a hit talking to Joe Rogan, convincing the people as they went.

However, Tom is a musician and a really bad actor. It is not a conversation. Joe barely talks and Tom just presents his hypothesis and sells his books.

But Tom after 25 years of researching must be quite clued in about the SSP, the breakaway civilisation, reptillians, greys, etc...

His pre-editing and erasing of these topics above as he talks is intuitively picked up by Joe, making Tom look naive.

I would have had a lot more respect for Tom if he had come forward, dropped a few truth bombs and been labelled a conspiracy nut.

[sunwings]

Full version is here

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[Adam Greenland]

Tom Delonge on Jre yesterday. Joe Rogan is a great interviewer and a healthy skeptic but there's nothing new here from Tom more "You'll see soon, I can't tell you and if you only knew" stuff.

5n_3mnJfHzY

I thought the second half of the interview was really interesting. The stuff about launching satellites with lasers, and the weird metal they are going to demonstrate.

I haven't read much on the TTSA site, but that point about getting public to invest so the tech can't be shut down in a few years, even if disingenuous, is a good pitch.

And I think the "only 5 million" shares to public is the key to understanding that the grassroots help is cover for behind-the-scenes major investment.

Didn't know Tom was putting out Bob Lazar's autobiography.

[Adam Greenland]

I know the Joe Rogan podcast is popular, but TTSA was at 500k investment yesterday.

Today it has jumped to nearly 1.8 million dollars as of this morning!! 😱

https://dpo.tothestarsacademy.com/

That is from another 130 or so investors...

[Cidersomerset]

Interesting discussion Joe was a bit annoying interrupting far to much and in mid
sentence many times, but he did get a fair amount out. Nothing really new from
what we know other than he may be a vehicle for disclosure which can be shut
down any time up to the point of no return and full disclosure is out.

A few things of interest he has got metal samples , inplants and official UFO footage
and more coming and he will be releasing them soon. They go into some techno
babble which neither understands nor do I but who knows.Then they go into Bob Lazar and more.....

http://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/33/photos/615000/Tom-Delonge-s-To-The-Stars-Academy-plans-to-build-this-spaceship-1106615.jpg

This is old footage but Tom says is authentic....

UnUpJw5sahg
Published on 3 Oct 2011

[GroovieBean]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DM9OgVXV4AAO2d9.jpg:large
Interesting .... INFOTAINMENT OR AGENDA ?
HAND SYMBOLS OR JUST ROCKER FUN?
Pay attention to wording....
His new book, Sekret Machines Book 1: Chasing Shadows, co-written with A.J. Hartley (the Darwen Arkwright series) and out April 5, is billed as “a novel based on ACTUAL events from the IMAGINATION of Tom DeLonge” and is just the tip of what he has in store for fans of extraterrestrial life, music, and science fiction. The 704-page tome, he says, will be followed by more books and a docu-series.
(SOUNDS FAMILIAR)
“This is not just a book,” DeLonge tells EW over the phone. “This is not just Tom talking about UFOs again, laughing about it with his fans. This is Tom representing 10 people that are of the highest rank and office within the Department of Defense establishment and they are asking me to communicate something that they see as the utmost national security issue that has ever existed. They see it as a global security issue.”

[Spellbound]

Delonge kept saying...I can't talk about this or I can't talk about that. He really said nothing noteworthy and he has absolutely no credentials for what he's trying to do here.

Dave - Toronto

[Cidersomerset]

Tom is certainly teaming up with some serious folk , combining science and
entertainment. Uhm..! Science fiction , well as a science fiction fan and into
ufology this is heaven , though I thought the UFO channel already filled this spot ?

Anyway will be interesting to follow this and gives obvious deniability if
required , yet intriguing enough like the X files to make it possible disclosure
as well. We have been here before as in 2001 with Stephen Greer and
other events. Is it the real Mc Coy ? only time will tell.

Much of this is already in the public domain and seems like an elite MUFON.
But if they are genuine they would already know this, so this is soft disclose
by the sound of it which can go either way disclose or deny where and when
appropriate , certainly need more info ......Ends with an investment plea.

=================================================


Tom Delonge introduces the team and initiative behind To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science

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interests, specifically within the realm of the UFO subject, you should all take note
of this historic day.

I invite you to watch this brief but highly anticipated live streamed ‘announcement’
that was broadcast this morning from Washington DC, 10/11/17. It announces
the “To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science” initiative to seek funding and
investigative research input from the public.

Make no mistake, that rock star Tom Delonge is the liaison between a younger,
open minded generation seeking truth on the subject and these highly valued
senior partnerships. In the live stream are distinguished government and aerospace
executives in: technology, intelligence, aerospace, defense and gov affairs.

Of note is former Minority Staff Director of the Senate Intelligence Committee,
Chris Mellon discussing (and acknowledging) an ‘event’ that happened with the USS
Nimitz and involving two F18s.

James Semivan /Vice President Operations
Jim Semivan is the co-founder and VP Operations for TTS Academy. He is a current
consultant to the US govt on national security matters and recently retired from the
Senior Intelligence Service from the Clandestine Directorate of Operations US
Central Intelligence Agency.

Harold Puthoff /Vice President Science and Technology
Dr. Harold E. Puthoff is the co-founder and Vice President of Science and
Technology of TTS Academy. He is a current consultant to USG on national security
matters and is an experimental physicist with backgrounds in CIA and DIA-funded
research programs.

Steve Justice / Aerospace Division Director
Steve Justice is the Director of the TTS Academy Aerospace Division, tasked with
leading the effort to examine the possibilities of emerging sciences and
technologies. Recently retired from Lockheed Martin's Advanced Development
Programs – better known as the Skunk Works – as Program Director for Advanced
Systems after a 31-year career developing advanced aircraft that contributed to the
security of the United States.

Luis Elizondo / Director of Global Security & Special Programs
Luis Elizondo is a career intelligence office whose experience includes working with
the U.S. Army, the Dept of Defense, the National Counterintelligence Executive,
and the Director of National Intelligence. He is the former Director of Programs to
investigate Unidentified Aerial Threats for the Office of the Secretary of Defense.

Chris Mellon / National Security Affairs Advisor
Christopher Mellon is a private equity investor, political commentator and the Chair
of the Science Committee at the Carnegie Museum of Natural History. He is a
current consultant to the USG on National Security matters and Former Deputy
Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, and Minority Staff Director of the
Senate Intelligence Committee.

This is most certainly a form of disclosure, and should be taken as a well planned,
carefully orchestrated message to the world. But there is a wealth of info not
touched on here.

[we-R-one]

A few things of interest he has got metal samples , inplants and official UFO footage
and more coming and he will be releasing them soon. They go into some techno
babble which neither understands nor do I but who knows.

Yes it's amazing what kind of 'evidence' one can miraculously come up with when working with the government.




“This is not just a book,” DeLonge tells EW over the phone. “This is not just Tom talking about UFOs again, laughing about it with his fans. This is Tom representing 10 people that are of the highest rank and office within the Department of Defense establishment and they are asking me to communicate something that they see as the utmost national security issue that has ever existed. They see it as a global security issue.”

And this is Tom being the mouthpiece for the deceptive 'deep state' machine who have endlessly betrayed the American people at every angle possible.

[Cidersomerset]

Linda commenting on Tom DeLonge and To The Stars Academy Presentation better
than me , despite here tele prompter difficulties....


Live with Linda Moulton Howe on Tom DeLonge and To The Stars Academy Presentation

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Streamed live on 11 Oct 2017

Linda Moulton Howe talks about the breaking news delivered by Tom DeLonge and
the panel of experts at the To The Stars Academy.
Listen as she takes questions from fans live on the air.
All of the information below is from the To The Stars Academy’s website.
https://dpo.tothestarsacademy.com/
he public interest in the outer edges of science and the understanding of
phenomena has always been suffocated by mainstream ideology and bureaucratic
constraint. We believe there are transformative discoveries within our reach that
will revolutionize the human experience, but they can only be accomplished
through the unrestricted support of breakthrough research, discovery and
innovation.

To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science has mobilized a team of the most
experienced, connected and passionately curious minds from the US intelligence
community, including the CIA and Department of Defense that have been operating
under the shadows of top-secrecy for decades. The team members all share a
common thread of frustration and determination to disrupt the status quo, wanting
to use their expertise and credibility to bring transformative science and
engineering out of the shadows and collaborate with global citizens to apply that
knowledge in a way that benefits humanity.

Without the restrictions of government priorities.

The Science Division is designed to be a theoretical and experimental laboratory to
challenge conventional thinking with the discovery of new world of physics and
consciousness-related possibilities and exploring how to use them to affect the
world positively. We have access to a global team of research scientists with
advanced knowledge to pursue projects which include Human Ultra-Experience
Database, EngineeringSpace-Time Metrics, Brain-Computer Interface, and
Telepathy.Human ultra-experience database - Develop a world-wide digital
database cataloguing different types of supranormal experiences, with the goal of
creating proprietary algorithms to find detailed patterns and correlate them with
other academic research.Brain-computer interface technology - Explore new
approaches for the use of sophisticated technologies to promote direct brain to
computer interfaces.

Engineering the space-time metric - Develop next-generation aerospace propulsion
technologies, using a concept referred to as metric engineering, which uses
advanced math modelling techniques, providing a technology base to the Aerospace
Division for future products.Telepathy - Explore the location in the brain where this
phenomenon is centered, and develop protocols for its enhancement and use.

[KiwiElf]

Mods - perhaps this could be merged with the main DeLonge thread; we're getting a lot of double ups? ;) (- with respect to the OP - David Trd1)


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89951-Tom-DeLonge-and-Sekret-Machines-Is-Disclosure-Going-Mainstream

[Cidersomerset]

Mods - perhaps this could be merged with the main DeLonge thread; we're getting
a lot of double ups? (- with respect to the OP - David Trd1)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ing-Mainstream

I forgot about this thread , there are so many.....

[Spiral]

This is old footage but Tom says is authentic....

UnUpJw5sahg
Published on 3 Oct 2011

He does eh ?

Thats a cgi re-creation of what someone claims to have seen, it's not actual footage, which was made clear when the original came out, it's been re-uploaded dozens of times under different premises.

It seems clear he is just the latest in a long line of sanctioned dis-info agents, aimed at the younger ufo curious audience who have seen a fair bit of info online.

Reminds me of Bob Lazar.....

[Bill Ryan]

That's a cgi re-creation of what someone claims to have seen, it's not actual footage, which was made clear when the original came out, it's been re-uploaded dozens of times under different premises.

Can you find a reference for that? —> "...which was made clear when the original came out" ?

That video is often cited, yes. It'd be very useful to have some definitive info about its provenance.

[KiwiElf]

It seems clear he is just the latest in a long line of sanctioned dis-info agents, aimed at the younger ufo curious audience who have seen a fair bit of info online.

Reminds me of Bob Lazar.....

Respectfully, the Bob Lazar situation has never been irrefutably proven, one way or the other - jury is still out on that one ;)

[Harley]

It seems clear he is just the latest in a long line of sanctioned dis-info agents, aimed at the younger ufo curious audience who have seen a fair bit of info online.

Reminds me of Bob Lazar.....

Respectfully, the Bob Lazar situation has never been irrefutably proven, one way or the other - jury is still out on that one ;)

Innocent until proven guilty.
The burden of proof is on the accuser.
:)

[Cidersomerset]

He does eh ?
Thats a cgi re-creation of what someone claims to have seen, it's not actual
footage, which was made clear when the original came out, it's been
re-uploaded dozens of times under different premises.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n_3mnJfHzY

Aprox 40 mins 15sec in Tom gets them to look up the vid. I saw it years ago and
posted it presuming it possibly CGI , and this sort of vid is why I don't post many
unless verified or relevant to the topic as I have no way of checking if genuine or not.

This is also why I posted the vid because it has been presumed a hoax and he
should know that . So there must be a reason for him bringing it up either as an
example of said craft , he has been told it is genuine , he does not know and is
winging it or its a con or something else....

I don't know either way one minute he is talking about telling a story . The next he
presenting a pretty strong line up in the fantasy UFO league....Having missed a lot
of the posts on this thread I am probably missing a few team meetings...:confused:

[ThePythonicCow]

I know the Joe Rogan podcast is popular, but TTSA was at 500k investment yesterday.

Today it has jumped to nearly 1.8 million dollars as of this morning!! 😱

https://dpo.tothestarsacademy.com/

That is from another 130 or so investors...

I smell money being laundered.

In other words, I suspect (without a shred of evidence) that most of that 1.8 million dollars did not come from some 180 investors who independently, each on their own, inspired by the sales pitch, came up with $10,000 out of their own personal funds.

Rather I suspect that a much smaller number (like approximately "one") of deeper state actors handed out $10,000 to some of their reliable servents, with instructions to donate it to this effort.

(P.S. -- That's if there even are 180 separate investors and a 1.8 million $US investment so far, properly accounted for ...)

[Iancorgi]

I met Guy Harriman a few months ago he's the inventor of the Ajnalight / Neurolight /Pyralight healthcare devices. His name and inventions were mentioned in passing and his devices discussed by Dennis McKenna for a few minutes on a recent Jre podcast. Guy told me that he received hundreds of inquiries the following days and dozen of orders his business is still thriving thanks to a mere 5 minutes exposure on Jre. Over the years I followed several Rogan health and workout advices and I couldn't be happier with the results. I love the facts that he'll have highly educated guests to talk about his topic of interest. Many people give Rogan a very high degree of credibility because of his honesty. So yes in term of marketing the podcast is pure gold.

[Praxis]

Tom on the JRE.

He was a big nothing.

His agenda is clearly sanitation.

Pitching THEM as the good guys fighting for humanity but yet they cant let us in on that good fight? Right

Asking for money to make movies?

He even attacked the term disclosure. What a big joke. Remember when wilcock asked for money to make movies about disclosure too?

Dont you love how all these government people do not actually do anything to make their agenda happen while they have power instead of them all doing something AFTER they leave office.

What a joke.

[HaveBlue]

The jury is out on Bob Lazar? I would suggest the jury is hung rather than out

[KiwiElf]

The jury is out on Bob Lazar? I would suggest the jury is hung rather than out

Maybe my "Kiwi" is different from yours HaveBlue, but essentially means the same thing, as I wrote it "...jury is still out..." :)

Meaning: If the jury is (still) out on a subject, people do not yet know the answer or have not yet decided if it is good or bad: eg, "The jury's still out on the safety of irradiated food."

Apologies to anyone who may have found my "Kiwi English" confusing :)

:focus:

[Spiral]

That's a cgi re-creation of what someone claims to have seen, it's not actual footage, which was made clear when the original came out, it's been re-uploaded dozens of times under different premises.

Can you find a reference for that? —> "...which was made clear when the original came out" ?

That video is often cited, yes. It'd be very useful to have some definitive info about its provenance.

Possibly if I had a huge amount of spare time, unfortunately I haven't atm, it's just one of those things I've picked up over many years of studying this subject & moderating forums that deal with such matters.

Also my reference to Bob Lazar is because he also wanted to give people the impression we are dealing with "aliens" in a "star trek" type scenario, which is not what people getting first hand experience of these beings are reporting, esp when you look at the meta data like Jacques Vallee has done.

Alien Scientist just brought this out, he swears a bit but he nails it IMO

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[Tam]

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I'd like to encourage everyone to listen to this interview. (Download here:
http://avalonlibrary.net/Coast_to_Coast_Tom_DeLonge_Mar_27_2016_all_4_hours.zip.) The total time, minus commercials, is about two and a half hours. It may be important, and we may all get to hear more about this in due course, if this really is an orchestrated roll-out of sorts.

George Knapp (who is far better than George Noory) did a good job. He knows a lot of stuff about this field... a little more than Tom DeLonge. Twice in the third hour, at 10:33 and 21:30, Knapp challenges DeLonge, very professionally, that he may be being spun and used (my paraphrase).

In response, DeLonge comes over (in my opinion) as basically star-struck — his experiences and contacts with the military are clearly very real — and insists he's being told the truth, having been taken very much into the inside confidence of the military-intel machine.

I doubt it's as simple as that. It sounds to me like an unplanned opportunity for a valuable limited hangout. That doesn't mean this is a bad thing to happen... but DeLonge may well be helping these guys solve a problem they have, at least partially. So I'd suggest we need to keep all that in mind.

A few further points to also keep in mind, maybe — and I welcome more from others:


Any opinions I might offer here are based only on listening (carefully!) to this one interview. So they're subject to change. :)



I tend to think DeLonge is telling the whole truth (with some sensitive details appropriately redacted) about how come he became involved in all this.



Based on what I've heard (subject to change, as I noted above) I'm finding myself thinking DeLonge is enthusiastic, honest, but naive. His military contacts didn't plan for his coming to them with his proposals, but that doesn't mean that they're not smart, informed and opportunistic.



They will also have profiled him right up the wazoo (and quickly, too), knowing exactly what he will and won't do, think, or believe. So while it suits DeLonge to feel that he's kind of been in control of quite a lot of what's transpired (listen to the interview), it may actually not be that way at all.



I'd love for DeLonge to sit in a room for a day or two with Richard Dolan, Timothy Good, Jim Marrs, Linda Howe, Joseph Farrell, and Catherine Austin Fitts. (I'd not mind being there, too. :) ) I suspect DeLonge's focus might be sharpened just a little, and his perspective broadened.



Finally, watch this space... it's just possible this one will start to roll quite a long way.



Thank you for the interview. I'll definitely give it a listen. That being said, before I even dive into it, I did want to share a quick little two cents:

Perhaps DeLonge is the next Corey Goode, and I mean that very deliberately: CG seems to be, at best, a highly mind-controlled victim of military psyops, at worst, a charlatan, and there's something off about DeLonge. On one hand, he has an arsenal of very good, credible experts at his disposal, but then he uses this same avenue to plug in and promote his young adult sci-fi novel. A bit weird, and damaging to the whole thing, is it not?

Perhaps DeLonge is compromised, like Corey Goode likely is. Perhaps he's just a wannabe, trying to etch a new kind of stardom. Or, maybe he's genuine, and will actually make some sort of positive difference.

One could also take this ball and run with it, and see that, maybe, this is all part of the same insidious plan Corey seems to be involved in, and eventually, over a stretched-out period of time, DeLonge will help pioneer this 'New Age', in league with Corey and and the Gaia crowd.

All interesting, nevertheless, and something we should all keep an eye on, in my opinion.

[we-R-one]

On July 26, 2017 I shared this information with you:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?98959-Ancient-humans-had-sex-with-non-humans


...I happen to be from the Elohim E.T. race. we are known to be the guardians of this planet. I noticed as I was researching several of my core past life identities that the word 'guardian' was following me around from one incarnation to the next.

You would have known me as Saint Mary Helena Salome, Mary Queen of Scots and Greek goddess Artemis. Each identity has a reference to 'guardian'.

Artemis: According to mythology Artemis was known to be 'guardian of the women, children, forests and animals.

Saint Mary Helena Salome was known to be one of the 3 sacred Mary's. She was also known to be a nazara as she was a follower of Jesus.

"In the Arab world, the word used to describe Jesus and his followers is nazara. This is confirmed in the Islamic Koran and the word means ’keepers’ or ’guardians’. The full definition is Nazara ha-Brit: ’Keepers of the Covenant’."- Laurence Gardner
Source: https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biblianazar/esp_biblianazar_11.htm

Mary Queen of Scots- aka Elizabeth Marie Stuart
Definition of Stuart:
"Stewart is a Scottish surname (also used as a masculine given name) possibly of pre-7th century Old English origin, derived from stigeweard, the genitive prefix stige meaning "hall", and the suffix weard meaning "guardian" or "warden".

Source:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart_(name)

All identities Akashic confirmed by Kevin Ryerson

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr251/Idahophotos/ARTEMIS%20MQS%20ELIZABETH%20COMPARISON%20PHOTO%202 %20website%20small.jpg (http://s489.photobucket.com/user/Idahophotos/media/ARTEMIS%20MQS%20ELIZABETH%20COMPARISON%20PHOTO%202 %20website%20small.jpg.html)


Exactly 3 months to the day, October 26, 2017, (yes I have 3's and 7's following me around) this video came out with Joe Rogan and Tom DeLonge (thanks to those who posted), which offers confirmation to some of what I’ve been sharing here on Avalon in a few of my posts including the above:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n_3mnJfHzY

Cue up to the 1:02:00 mark and you will hear the dialogue below:

Tom DeLonge: Umm ya…I don’t know, I don’t know,……..I do know that there’s connections to…uhh you won’t even ****ing believe it….
Joe Rogan: Please….
Tom DeLonge: Atlantis
Joe Rogan: Atlantis the sunken city?
Tom DeLonge: Ya,
Joe Rogan: There’s a connection?
Tom DeLonge: There’s a connection
Joe Rogan: What’s the connection?
Tom DeLonge: That there’s a very advanced group that left after a catastrophe and hung around in a small outpost here, and throughout time would push civilization forward and that’s who the Greek gods were…..
Joe Rogan: Whoa!
Tom DeLonge: Yep….and that’s why it’s very interesting in the Roswell wreckage, there’s Greek writing.

This is an exciting for me….because it demonstrates I’m connecting the dots correctly. And this is why I say The Elohim race is incarnating into some of the royal lines as our role was to lead the human race through the reincarnation cycle, which is why I was observing some from my soul group having several famous past lives and why I have the word 'guardian' and 3's and 7's following me from one incarnation to the next. In time you will see how this process of reincarnation is tied to ley lines and the ancient science of Geomancy which is not common knowledge, but something I observed while researching my cases and those close to me. I don’t know Tom, nor am I affiliated with any government agency involved in Tom’s project. I’m a self taught independent researcher…I suspect this was part of my ‘job’ all along to figure things out.

My information came full circle from studying and researching my past lives with the help of Akashic Reader Kevin Ryerson. I’m forever grateful for both his and spirit Ahtun-Re’s assistance in guiding me to my true identities. They were instrumental in the ‘Know Thyself’ process by escorting myself and ‘Apollo’ through our journeys of self discovery. I’m becoming more and more convinced this was all by design and it’s why ‘Apollo’ and I walked the exact same path of discovery before we met …as if, this was the plan from day one. I’ve been very candid about my past life identities so people know some of what is being told/leaked out about Greek mythology is true. To get a glimpse of the bigger story, finding out who I had been was a necessary component to the equation! Studying my core identities wasn't about being famous....it's the implications behind those identities that's significant! If I wasn’t who I say I am, I wouldn’t be connecting the dots in the proper manner. And if some are still on the fence in regards to the intentions of my sharings please consider from my astrological chart:
"Your function is to be a MESSENGER, a link or bridge between people and between ideas, whether through teaching or speaking, selling or simply circulating socially....you are able to flow into the perception of Unity, and you become a messenger for the truth."

Please don't shoot the messenger, I am here to help when and where I can,......besides…what kind of ‘guardian’ would I be to do otherwise? I'm a life path #3 (to obtain this number, you add your full birthday up to the lowest number possible), we are communicators, that's our role and likely part of 'the plan' for me in this incarnation, which is why I point it out.

No, I’m not a blue avian, no I’m not selling aprons or hats….My name is not in white lights, nor do I have endless youtube videos. Like you, I seek the truth, of who I am and where I really come from and it’s been the driving force behind my late night rabbit hole researching and oMg moments. I'm getting closer to that very goal and don't mind sharing the journey with you as this is 'our' story.

[Helvetic]

Tom Delonge: Pentagon Disinfo Agent? Con Artist? Fraud? Hoaxer? Dupe? Useful idiot?

Source: alienscientist.com (http://alienscientist.com)

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Description:
Alien Scientist gives his take on the recent Tom Delong revelations, or lack thereof... and where people might go to find better information on Area 51, UFOs, and Advanced Propulsion and Energy Physics concepts. (www.AlienScientist.com)
Excerpts take from Joe Rogan Experience #1029, used under FAIR USE for analysis / commentary only. This reproduction does not infringe upon the rights of the copyright holder and is posted for non-profit educational purposes only!

For more information:
http://alienscientist.com/boblazar.html
http://alienscientist.com/lazar.html

Ed Fouche Records:
http://alienscientist.com/fouche.html
http://www.david-hilton.net/fouche-do... (http://www.david-hilton.net/fouche-docs/fouche-military-records/edgar-fouche-military-record-2.jpg)

George Knapp on Bob Lazar:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5jz5... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5jz5CIpJgo&t=126s)

George Knapp disproves S-4 and admits it doesn't exist:
https://youtu.be/K1viG6PRjiw?t=1h46s (http://youtu.be/K1viG6PRjiw?t=1h46s)

Bob Lazar's Impossible timeline (Completely Debunks Lazar's entire story):
http://www.otherhand.org/home-page/area-51-and-other-strange-places/bluefire-main/bluefire/the-bob-lazar-corner/lazar-flaws-theories-_huffs-response/

[Spiral]

Tom Delonge: Pentagon Disinfo Agent? Con Artist? Fraud? Hoaxer? Dupe? Useful idiot?



I hope everyone watches this video & do some research ie look up some of those links & think about what Tom has said & WHY he would want to push the things he does.

There is seriously sinister agenda at hand here, they are doing their utmost to play us & use us as "useful idiots", don't forget BS merchants tend to back each other up, like Corey & Wilcox.

[Star Tsar]

Grant with his view of said agenda...


PortalToAscension

Grant Cameron | Tom Delonge, The DoD & The CIA

Published 29th October 2017

Grant gives us his perspective of what the agenda is behind To The Stars.

pWGOG3MwLoU

[Cidersomerset]

Tom Delonge: Pentagon Disinfo Agent? Con Artist? Fraud? Hoaxer? Dupe? Useful idiot?
Source: alienscientist.com


I have posted quite threads about the UFO/ET subject and I was looking for one about Edgar Fouche
as alien scientist was referring to and the vid of the CR 3B does look suspect as I said earlier but
it could be just a educational vid..;)

So far I have found a few old interesting ones some plausible others more challenging that show
as we know this has been in the public domain for decades , but there are always new people
coming to the subject. I'm not sure of Tom and his teams motive ? it feels like controlled disclosure
of some kind for now.....But keep scrutinizing the releases and see where it goes if anywhere.

Just for reference , some of the vids have timed out but you can probably find them
on u'tube do not answer on this thread as you will get a off topic sign.....



Richplanet TV - 21/06/14.. Edgar Fouche & US Secret Space Fleet with researcher Andrew Johnson Avalon member

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72625-Richplanet-TV-21-06-14..-Edgar-Fouche-US-Secret-Space-Fleet-with-resarcher-Andrew-Johnson-Avalon-member&p=849228&highlight=Edgar+Fouche+TR3B#post849228

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BBC Headline page 13 July 2015 ....Rendlesham Forest UFO sighting 'new evidence' claim
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83596-BBC-Headline-page-13-July-2015-....Rendlesham-Forest-UFO-sighting-new-evidence-claim

Mark McCandlish: "Corporations Have Back-Engineered ET Technology To Control The World"
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86186-Mark-McCandlish-Corporations-Have-Back-Engineered-ET-Technology-To-Control-The-World-

UFOs The True Story of Flying Saucers Docu - Drama released 1956 // Capt. Mantell Related material
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85324-UFOs-The-True-Story-of-Flying-Saucers-Docu-Drama-released-1956-Capt.-Mantell-Related-material

BBC...The day UFOs stopped play......Florance Italy 1954 // UFO Files of the Italian Air Force
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76303-The-day-UFOs-stopped-play......Florance-Italy-1954-UFO-Files-of-the-Italian-Air-Force

XCon 2005 - Charles Hall - The Tall Whites - ET Experiences in the Nevada Desert
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50137-XCon-2005-Charles-Hall-The-Tall-Whites-ET-Experiences-in-the-Nevada-Desert&highlight=Billy+Meier+cidersomerset

Billy Meier and Ptaah (ET) talking about 2012....Contact 476 3/2/2009
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43426-Billy-Meier-and-Ptaah--ET--talking-about-2012....Contact-476-3-2-2009

: Dr. Richard Sauder: Underground/Sea bases // Discrediting Conspiracy 'Theories' With MATHS?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88579-Dr.-Richard-Sauder-Underground-Sea-bases-Discrediting-Conspiracy-Theories-With-MATHS

PASSED, aged 94: William (Bill) Tompkins, ET and Nazi UFOs Whistleblower
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89312-New-ET-and-Nazi-UFOs-Whistleblower-William-Tompkins--now-92-yrs-

Nick Pope, MOD Spokesman and UFO Skeptic on Jimmy Church Fade To Black, 4 March 2015
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80469-Nick-Pope-MOD-Spokesman-and-UFO-Skeptic-on-Jimmy-Church-Fade-To-Black-4-March-2015&highlight=edgar+fouche

Two ETs at 5 feet distance in Ruwa, Zimbabwe 1994
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93102-Two-ETs-at-5-feet-distance-in-Ruwa-Zimbabwe-1994&highlight=Rendlesham

Aldebaran, Anyone Care to Elaborate?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80154-Aldebaran-Anyone-Care-to-Elaborate&p=936358

OpenMinds.tv : The Allagash Abductions & Talk with slides of the Aug 20, 1976, Alien encounter
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?87517-OpenMinds.tv-The-Allagash-Abductions-Talk-with-slides-of-the-Aug-20-1976-Alien-encounter

David Icke: Reptilian Advanced Technology Enslaves Humanity / Transhumanism agenda - Just Energy Radio
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89822-David-Icke-Reptilian-Advanced-Technology-Enslaves-Humanity-Transhumanism-agenda-Just-Energy-Radio&p=1058065#post1058065

[Star Tsar]

Via Mr Cameron


WhiteHouseUFO

USS Nimitz Video?

Published 30th October 2017

This is rumoured to be the USS Nimitz video of a UFO taken by a F18.
Via Mr Delonge & Mr Cameron.

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[we-R-one]

The recent Grant Cameron interview above was an interesting listen....dang he talks so fast it's hard to absorb all he's saying....I feel sorry for someone who's kinda new to his work, geez...they will definitely feel overwhelmed. I don't know about you guys, but I kinda felt Grant was talking out both sides of his mouth. He's constantly praising these guys, i.e. Hal Puthoff et al and how great they've been to work with.....and yet, these are the same guys, muddying the waters, asking for money, working in black ops projects....I mean c'mon. I suspect Grant has to give them a glowing review as you can't cut the hand that feeds you right? Definitely something to keep in mind when listening to Grant's synopsis. And these are the same people labeling aliens as a 'threat' despite admittance by one government official involved in the project, Luis Elizondo (DOD), that currently no threat exists.

Notice Grant's confidence that Trump is behind disclosure? And states he's the one giving the green light? However, he pointed out that Trump had tweeted little interest in the topic....lol....don't be fooled. You bet he's interested...are you kidding me?? Take a look at his decor on the inside of his New York flat, and you'll see why. The constant demonization of Trump's every move makes it an unwise decision for him to pay much attention, surely Grant must know this....So for more reasons than one....I think Cameron himself serves as a mouthpiece for 'the project' of soft disclosure which is why his information will seem confusing to the viewer. Researchers like him are equally being used to aid in soft disclosure.

Here's the thing....it's hard to buy into the 'threat' scenario because we've been around for thousands of years, no really, more like millions of years, lol. If there's such a threat we would have been wiped out long ago. I'm sure many of you have already thought the same. I'm more of the belief that E.T.'s are inter-dimensional and that our experiences on planet Earth are part of a computer situation. The basis of my beliefs comes from studying NDE's, past life regressions, and reincarnation cases. It strongly suggests soul growth being the purpose. As Grant mentions, even Puthoff is a fan of the simulation and holographic theory. It makes sense.

After studying reincarnation cases, and knowing people's identities, you can see there's a higher purpose. So I personally view Earth as a school where E.T. races hash out their differences. I've seen people unite today as good friends, who were once enemies on both sides of the fences of WWII. I've also seen situations where enemies in a past life are Father and son today which suggests role playing is highly likely. You begin to ask yourself, if this reality isn't what's real (simulation theory), how can anyone violate you? And the reason one falls along this line of thinking is because reincarnation suggests the repetitive cycle of...live, die, repeat. When your body dies, and only consciousness exist, it is then you are in your true form and that is when I think you find yourselves amongst the E.T.'s.

With that in mind, if this reality isn't what's real....how can there be an 'alien threat'?

Considering everything about Tom's project is scripted, his choice of words were interesting when he said in his recent conversation with Joe Rogan:
'...That there’s a very advanced group that left after a catastrophe and hung around in a small outpost here, and throughout time would push civilization forward and that’s who the Greek gods were…..- Tom DeLonge

'..throughout time would push civilization forward'....Does this not suggest a higher purpose? Why does civilization need to be pushed forward? Reincarnation has shown me this soul group keeps landing in leadership roles, it's not by chance...it's part of 'the game' or how else could they be 'pushing civilization forward'?

There's more to it than what's being shared...

PS At the tail end of the interview....Whoa...just heard Grant say Tom was trying to buy all of experiencers studies from IONS(Institute of Noetic Sciences)! I was under the same impression as Grant, that those studies showed most E.T. experiences are positive...ya, no wonder he wants to buy them....to never be seen again I bet! Not a good sign, wow! Thank god they wouldn't sell! And it does pose a problem because those studies don't fit their narrative! I wondered about that...The work at IONS is part of the basis for my beliefs and when you combine what's revealed in NDE cases, it doesn't support an alien threat.

Again, how can their be an alien threat if this reality isn't what's real?? LMAO

[Spiral]

Latest update from "Tom"....

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;)

[mountain_jim]

^ :clap2:

[Harley]

He's doing the exact same thing as Corey Goode.

PLUS he has serious "Sniffles"
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:facepalm:

[DNA]

The jury is out on Bob Lazar? I would suggest the jury is hung rather than out



Bob Lazar is quite legit and there are other testimonies that show so, and in my opinion they are better than Lazar's account.

S4 (Area 51) Informers Volume One Wendelle Stevens and Bob Dean (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31708-S4--Area-51--Informers-Volume-One-Wendelle-Stevens-and-Bob-Dean)
This thread and the Video contained in the first post by the OP (me), tell both stories and quite a bit more.
The thread helps because it breaks down the account of the six hour marathon video masterpiece. :)
The thread is still only one page long, so not to worry about a sixteen page thread or the like.




The story centers around Connor O'Ryan, an Area 51 Sentry (guard).

Wendelle Stevens received a phone call one day by a man (Connor O'Ryan) who claimed to have information about area 51 or S4 as insiders call it.

The story gets cloak and dagger as the man fears for his life. For he not only was a sentry but, he doubled as a CIA operative who went on "special missions".
These "special missions" were basically assassanations that the united states perpetuated on those dubbed undesireable due to information they had that would come out in a court of law.

Bob Dean who lived across the street from Wendelle at the time varified the story because he came over and met the man.

Wendelle Stevens sat on this story for ten years 1991 to 2001 because he didn't know what would happen if he went public with it.

Connor stated that living on S4 was like living on a submarine, which he had done in the navy. Life on the base was not interupted, meals were eaten there, bunks were provided, entertainment of sorts was provided. Pay and compensation for black projects was deposited in an offshore account.

Base staff were given identification numbers and were expected to refer to one another by these numbers in place of their names. Audio pick ups were randomly placed all over the base and talking with fellow staff was forbidden. No exchanging names, discussing missions, or shop talk was permitted.

Connor O'Ryan stated that he was given random hypnotic sessions of which he had no memory of after the fact. Annual physicals contained one of these hypnotic sessions as well.

Interestingly enough Connor stated that on one "special mission" he was teamed with a vatican hitman, and he and Wendelle commented on the strangeness of the Catholic church having hit men. This pings with a lot of the things Bill and Kerry talk about in terms of the Black pope and Leo Zugami type stuff.

Connor also discussed a hit he did on a former special forces man living in Europe. He said this hit was the first that led him to wonder if these hits were as on the up and up as he had been led to believe. For the man he had killed was basically a parrallel to himself doing the same things and specialized in the same areas he was. He then began to believe that this was ultimately what happened to folks like himself when they outlived their usefullness.

At 07:20 on (07 of 16) episode in the series, Bob Dean states he talked to a full bird Colonial who said he went to the bottom level of Area 51 and went through a door and came out the other side in Pine Gap Australia. This certainly gives some ping to the Jump Room Bill Ryan and Kerry talk about with David Wilcock and Henry Deacon.

It is also stated that there is an ET base next to Pine Gap that is over a hundred years old.

Of the projects being worked on at area 51 Bob Lazar mentions 3.

1.Project Galileo - Dealt with gravity propulson.
2.Project Sidekick - Dealt with energy beam weopons that had a neutron source focused by a gravity lens.
3.Project looking glass - Dealt with seeing back in time.

[Cidersomerset]

I just saw this on RT and its a odd thing to say in public it sounded like
possible ET abduction but coded as US airforce ? weird they could be
collecting samples for a bio weapon , but seems unlikely as the US
mil could get samples from elsewhere I'm sure and what would they
need it for otherwise......


Putin: Someone is harvesting Russian bio samples for obscure purposes

txu6w_UypwA

Published on 31 Oct 2017
Russian genetic material is being harvested all over the country, purposefully
and professionally, President Vladimir Putin has said, possibly hinting at the
US Air Force's earlier move to acquire Russian tissue samples.

[KiwiElf]

This situation kinda reminds me of when Santilli released the infamous "Alien Autopsy" video over two decades ago; although allegedly based on a few surviving authentic frames which may have been genuine (or not), only the "video" aspect of the autopsy was supposedly fake - a recreation of the surviving "real" frames. (There was also "debris" footage of an i-beam with heiroglyphics & control panels with "hand indentations" for six digits, which are allegedly genuine, shown below).

(Sorry for using the word "allegedly" a lot in this post; I'm trying to keep it objective & impartial for the sake of accuracy,.. & I don't wanna be sued!)

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Several years elapsed before Santilli actually "came clean" on that, irrefutably admitting & proving that parts of it were faked. (NOTE: That didn't make the whole thing fake!) As so often happens, the damage was done; the UFOlogy community largely wrote the whole Santilli thing off as an elaborate fraud. (Hate to say it, Baby & the Bathwater analogy, AGAIN!) :)

For a long time, all it did was create a great deal of division, confusion & argument amongst the really well known UFO-related researchers & "experts" of the time; eg Friedman called out fake, Hesemann & team said it was genuine etc,... mostly because the "alien" depicted in the Santilli video didn't match the description of the aliens allegedly found in "the" Roswell crash (ie, "greys" - some have suggested that the alien shown in the autopsy video is known as the "Orange"). And the crazy thing was, Santilli NEVER said or claimed it came from "the" famous Roswell crash. That was the mistaken assumption of just about everyone else! Many of the so-called experts were very slow to notice that the alleged date of the Santilli "incident" pre-dated the more infamous Roswell crash by at least a month. In other words, if genuine, it was an entirely different crash also near Roswell! - The Santilli case probably deserves a thread of its own, but moving on...

DeLonge makes photographic/website reference (at 1:03:43 on the Joe Rogan interview - one of the websites is here: http://trowbridgeplanetearth.com/ALI/ROS/Wreck.html - alternately, type in "Roswell Wreckage" to Google Images) to "Roswell" wreckage showing heiroglyphics, including Greek symbols - I could be mistaken, but this also came from the Santilli debris footage (above). To be clear, the debris items were never proven fake per se, were corroborated as part of the drawn-out investigation & partly translated by Robert Morning Sky using Sumerian language as a reference at the time. That does not change anything we-R-one said regarding this (above). :thumbsup: In fact, it very much ties in the "A" word - Atlantis!

(Also discussed here on an earlier thread with video & several frame grabs of the i-beams with heiroglyphics, etc):
Exolinguistics - alien languages: the work of Nancy du Tertre

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89661-Exolinguistics-alien-languages-the-work-of-Nancy-du-Tertre

(Perhaps Tom just confused his "Roswell" crashes... - for those not doing their homework - there were several "alleged" UFO crashes in that general time period and New Mexico area (even "the" famous one included two crash sites, neither of which were actually in Roswell)... :Angel:)

I see the "3 Teams" (ie, DeLonge Camp, vs Wilcock & Corey Goode Camp, vs Greer Camp) soon getting into similar arguments, along with their respective followers, each calling the others out, nitpicking opposing details, muddying the waters further & achieving... what? :confused: He who shouts loudest???:Angel:

(We're seeing opposing beliefs being expressed in a few of these videos already - my own included :blushing: - I guess it depends on what we think we know compared to what everyone else thinks they know - the French "TR3-B" footage (below) for example - whatever it is - or, if faked, was intended to be - it isn't a TR3-B! (refer to Edgar Fouche - the TR3-B doesn't have tail fins, has a very thick, slab-sided cross section, each of its 3-sides is approx the length of a Boeing 747 Jumbojet (ie about 10 x larger) - try Manta or Astra ;)). Everything with a triangular shape these days gets called a TR3-B!)

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The slideshow below shows several variations - some are the TR3-B - the others are something different - compare to the above: (The internal CGI cutaway of the TR3-B also looks remarkably similar to Lazar's cutaway of the "Sports Model".)

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Like Bill, I'd like to see some irrefutable proof - not opinion - that this "TR3-B" French video was faked (or not). In the absence of "irrefutable proof," how do we really "know" what's faked & what isn't? ;)

That aside, I still look forward to seeing the "previously unseen" documents & videos which DeLonge claims will be shown in the next few weeks. :)

[Flash]

May be Russian bio samples are taken all over to genetically differentiate thr ashkenazi Jews (are mostly from slavic countries) from other Russians. Because if there is any desire to get rid of Russians with bio weapons, the Ashkenazi Jews are so intermingled with Russians genetically that my bet is that most would die too. Unless a genetic differenciation is made


I just saw this on RT and its a odd thing to say in public it sounded like
possible ET abduction but coded as US airforce ? weird they could be
collecting samples for a bio weapon , but seems unlikely as the US
mil could get samples from elsewhere I'm sure and what would they
need it for otherwise......


Putin: Someone is harvesting Russian bio samples for obscure purposes

txu6w_UypwA

Published on 31 Oct 2017
Russian genetic material is being harvested all over the country, purposefully
and professionally, President Vladimir Putin has said, possibly hinting at the
US Air Force's earlier move to acquire Russian tissue samples.

[uzn]

His spaceship design is the lamest I have seen in decades. Asking for money to build it, yeah right ...

[KiwiElf]

His spaceship design is the lamest I have seen in decades. Asking for money to build it, yeah right ...

LOL - maybe it will show up in future sci-fi movies ;). That aside, he's never going to raise enough $$$ with crowdfunding to make it, IMO ;)

[Builder]

Like Bill, I'd like to see some irrefutable proof - not opinion - that this "TR3-B" French video was faked (or not). In the absence of "irrefutable proof," how do we really "know" what's faked & what isn't? ;)

The burden of proof is on those claiming it is real. Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence.

It's just to easy to fake such a video. Countless people have the skills and software to do it. Especially if looks like a cheap CG rendering to start with.

[KiwiElf]

Like Bill, I'd like to see some irrefutable proof - not opinion - that this "TR3-B" French video was faked (or not). In the absence of "irrefutable proof," how do we really "know" what's faked & what isn't? ;)

The burden of proof is on those claiming it is real. Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence.

It's just to easy to fake such a video. Countless people have the skills and software to do it. Especially if looks like a cheap CG rendering to start with.

It's a two-way street - I prefer "Innocent until proven guilty" OR... "The burden of proof is on the accuser," myself - I don't want to believe, I want to know. ;)

Just because it can be "easily faked", doesn't mean it is. Where's the "extraordinary evidence" either way? :sherlock:

Sorry folks, until then, I'd say another "hung jury". :)

[Star Tsar]

May be of interest to you...


Den Of Lore

https://yt3.ggpht.com/bdIAB9rSaLFDtwjvbBhi2jddiYZV-biz6VAY8Bo6tmAyz1jzQqHdgKLoMu7AAkdGQAhxAKrBDUE=w2120-fcrop64=1,00005a57ffffa5a8-nd-c0xffffffff-rj-k-no

To The Stars Academy Roundtable

Streamed & Published 3rd November 2017

Author & UFO researcher Walter Bosley, Darren & Graham of Grimerica, Contributor to Mysterious Universe MJ Banias, Joseph Rupe host of Lighting the Void, Richard Giordano host of The Paranormal Code & Michael Huntington co-host of Enigma's & Sh*t all share the opinions on Tom Delonge's To The Stars Academy...

Starts around 8:30 minutes

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[Bill Ryan]

Gu4rmjr-et4

Good discussion. :thumbsup: (Well-moderated, too, considering the many participants.)

Considering the very close consensus view (which was intelligently dubious and critical), here's very little I'd disagree with.

My overall big-picture suspicion is that something has changed: DeLonge promised a major announcement within 60 days of mid-January this year (2017) — but nothing happened. At that point he was giving in-depth interviews, explaining how he'd won the confidence of a number of high-ranking officials in the Pentagon and elsewhere. With some good reason, many in the audience were interested and quite hopeful of something concrete emerging.

Then, suddenly, we have something completely different. My hunch is that there was some kind of an authentic (but probably limited) disclosure roll-out planned.... but then that was vetoed from a very high level, and this is the wheelspinning replacement.

(...a comment from Walter, maybe? :) )

[Bill Ryan]

Author & UFO researcher Walter Bosley, Darren & Graham of Grimerica, Contributor to Mysterious Universe MJ Banias, Joseph Rupe host of Lighting the Void, Richard Giordano host of The Paranormal Code & Michael Huntington co-host of Enigma's & Sh*t all share the opinions on Tom DeLonge's To The Stars Academy...



A footnote: almost everyone will know that Walter Bosley is a member here (WalterBosley (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?29411-WalterBosley)), but so is Rich Giordano (ParanormalCode (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?32342-ParanormalCode)). Rich was good to listen to in this posted video, but here he prompted the disagreement of many members (including myself) in his provocative thread The Paranormal Code: Why Psychics Aren't Real, & Wilcock's Brakes? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99438-The-Paranormal-Code-Why-Psychics-Aren-t-Real-Wilcock-s-Brakes), in which he stated that ALL psychics were frauds. (Not so... of course.)

:focus:

[Amenjo]

https://s1.postimg.org/1jkyzsazz3/IMG_4999.gif
This gif shows the unique path of the strange object that zoomed through our solar system over the past few months.

Here's an interesting article linked at through to the stars instagram from popular science's website:

A STRANGE OBJECT FROM OUTSIDE OUR SOLAR SYSTEM JUST ZOOMED PAST THE SUN
THE TRAVELLER (MAYBE FROM ANOTHER STAR) DIDN’T STAY LONG AND IT’S MOVING AWAY FAST
By Mary Beth Griggs

Travelling between the stars has been a dream of humanity for generations. But while our species might not be able to make that trek for a long while, there are some seasoned travelers whizzing around the galaxy, and one of them stopped by our solar system this week.

Astronomer Rob Weryk, a postdoctoral researcher at the University of Hawaii Institute for Astronomy was working with data collected from the university’s Pan-STARRS 1 telescope on October 19 when he first noticed the strange moving object, and reported it to the Minor Planet Center, which compiles reports of minor planets, moons, natural satellites, and comets from all over the world.

The Pan-STARRS 1 telescope helps NASA identify and track near-Earth objects, like asteroids, which head into Earth’s neighborhood. Until now, all of those objects have originated from our own solar system. But this discovery was different. Instead of staying roughly in the same plane as most of the other planets, this object jetted in almost perpendicular to…basically everything else in the Solar system.

Other telescopes and astronomers around the world made similar observations and sent in reports tracking the movement of the object on its journey. It was decidedly odd, and incredibly exciting.

“This is the most extreme orbit I have ever seen,” Davide Farnocchia, a scientist at NASA’s Center for Near-Earth Object Studies (CNEOS) says in a statement. “It is going extremely fast and on such a trajectory that we can say with confidence that this object is on its way out of the solar system and not coming back.”
The object, temporarily called A/2017 U1, is less than a quarter mile long, and when it was entering the solar system it was speeding along at 15 miles per second. At first, people thought it might be a comet, but it doesn’t have a comet’s distinctive tail. Astronomers calculate that it passed closest to the Sun on September 9, passing just inside the orbit of Mercury.

The Sun’s gravity changed its course and speed, sending it hurtling out of our star system and towards the constellation Pegasus. It came closest to Earth on October 14, zipping by just 15 million miles from our planet. To put that in perspective, that’s less than half the distance between Earth and Mars.

We don’t know much about the object, and as it’s moving away from us at about 27 miles per second, astronomers won’t get many more chances to make detailed observations, though there’s a chance the Hubble Space Telescope might be able to catch a glimpse of it as it flies away.

“A/2017 U1 is already faint and fading quickly. We can still use large telescopes to track its position for a month or maybe two,” Farnocchia says in an e-mail. “The object may already be too faint for physical characterization and measuring its size, mass or composition.”

Scientists are poring over the data they do have and trying to get a few last glimpses of the object before it fades from view. The early results are tantalizing. In addition to not being a comet, it seems to have a distinctly reddish color, similar to asteroids in the Kuiper Belt.

Even as observations continue to pile up, researchers are thrilled to see evidence of something that had been often discussed and theorized about, but that some astronomers didn’t expect to see in their careers, or at least, in the next few decades.
The observations so far do line up with published theories. In a 2016 paper, astronomers including Darin Ragozzine of Brigham Young University predicted that an interstellar object might initially be considered a Near Earth Object based on how it was moving. That’s what researchers thought A/2017 U1 might be initially, before they got additional glimpses of the object.

As researchers are celebrating the discovery and gathering more information about A/2017 U1, they’re also looking forward to finding other interstellar visitors. The eccentric path of A/2017 U1 tells researchers that it was probably flung out of another, distant solar system long ago.

“Observing ISOs [interstellar objects] in our solar system means we are probing the dynamics and formation of other solar systems! If these objects are getting kicked out of their home systems and into ours, we can learn about their home systems formation histories.” Bonnie Meinke, Deputy Project Scientist of the James Webb Space Telescope says in an e-mail. “This is similar to how planetary scientists learn about Mars by studying the Martian meteorites that hit Earth.”

In the future, the next generation of large telescopes, including the Large Survey Synoptic Telescope, currently under construction in Chile could help researchers like Ragozzine learn more about where those objects are coming from, giving us a better idea about whether they’re zipping in directly from a star that cast them away, or if they’ve wandered the galaxy, roving from star to star for billions of years.
“NASA has been searching for hazardous asteroids for about twenty years now, so a simple extrapolation would say one ISO discovery every twenty years, possibly more frequently as new surveys with more powerful telescopes come online in the future,” Farnocchia says. ”But we only have one discovery so far, too few to do any statistics, and so it’s not easy to reliably predict the rate at which new interstellar objects visit the solar system and we can discover them.”

https://www.popsci.com/interstellar-object-solar-system


Love and Truth,


Amenjo

[Joe from the Carolinas]

Like Bill, I'd like to see some irrefutable proof - not opinion - that this "TR3-B" French video was faked (or not). In the absence of "irrefutable proof," how do we really "know" what's faked & what isn't? ;)

The burden of proof is on those claiming it is real. Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence.

It's just to easy to fake such a video. Countless people have the skills and software to do it. Especially if looks like a cheap CG rendering to start with.

While I agree, I would like to point out that not everyone agrees. Some people, such as Michael Salla, say that the onus of responsibility is on the researchers/public to provide evidence that these whistleblowers/claims are contrived. So I guess its ok, according to Salla, to provide evidence that such a video is faked.

Next thought on the TR-3B footage--- youtube, really??? Tom Delonge goes on Joe Rogan and references youtube as the source? Didn't Lou Elizandro (sic) say, during the "To the stars" reveal presentation say that THEY would be releasing video? Don't give us a link to youtube. Give us the video on the tothestars website. They've raised nearly 2 million USD, surely they have enough money to post vids on their own website.

This whole thing smells more and more like horsepucky.

[KiwiElf]

:) YouTube = widest reach/audience (but I agree Joe, video should be on TTS website as well)

re; fake ufo videos - I tend to think it's all too easy these days to call out "fake" without some serious investigation either way. Any vid that turns up on Secureteam is almost instantly labelled as such, ie "fake". That isn't good research (in fact, it's no research).

Long before cgi & computers, debunkers of the period were quick to point out the same or demonstrate how it could be faked. Doesn't necessarily make it so. Today, it's just much easier to fake it ... and because of that, not so easy to prove it's genuine.

[we-R-one]

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Good discussion. :thumbsup: (Well-moderated, too, considering the many participants.)

Considering the very close consensus view (which was intelligently dubious and critical), here's very little I'd disagree with.

My overall big-picture suspicion is that something has changed: DeLonge promised a major announcement within 60 days of mid-January this year (2017) — but nothing happened. At that point he was giving in-depth interviews, explaining how he'd won the confidence of a number of high-ranking officials in the Pentagon and elsewhere. With some good reason, many in the audience were interested and quite hopeful of something concrete emerging.

Then, suddenly, we have something completely different. My hunch is that there was some kind of an authentic (but probably limited) disclosure roll-out planned.... but then that was vetoed from a very high level, and this is the wheelspinning replacement.

(...a comment from Walter, maybe? :) )

I believe this was mentioned by both Tom and Grant in recent interviews posted on this thread. I remember Cameron stating the hold up was due to negotiations with Steven Spielberg...apparently Tom was trying to get him on board with his project and they couldn't work things out so they decided to proceed forward; but it's behind the delay of the announcement.

I think it was this video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWGOG3MwLoU

[KiwiElf]

John Lear & James Fetzer - UFO's, Tom DeLonge, Groom Lake, Bob Lazar, and much more (this is a long interview 2h 47m)
Coast To Coast AM
Sunday, November 5, 2017 13:44

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Interview with James Fetzer & John Lear - they discuss Tom DeLonge, Trump, North Korea, Afghanistan poppy growing, UFO’S, JFK, Bob Lazar, 9/11, Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert? Did We Land on the Moon? Pretty much everything going down at the moment. So much is revealed in this episode, it’s difficult to try and summarize everything.

[KiwiElf]

It's all connected - DeLonge analysis starts around the 12:00 min mark onward, but I'd urge readers to watch the whole thing for context.

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[WalterBosley]

Hey guys, it wasn't until I noticed I had a message from someone that I realized the round table was posted.

Bill, I agree with your comments (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89951-Tom-DeLonge-and-Sekret-Machines-Is-Disclosure-Going-Mainstream&p=1189009&viewfull=1#post1189009), maybe iffy on the extent to which real disclosure may have been involved. DeLonge might certainly have been toyed with using that as bait. But other than that you point out exactly the main problem with all DeLonge's antics: things were supposed to happen that never seem to and what did happen inspires cynicism.

[Bill Ryan]

Hey guys, it wasn't until I noticed I had a message from someone that I realized the round table was posted.

Bill, I agree with your comments (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89951-Tom-DeLonge-and-Sekret-Machines-Is-Disclosure-Going-Mainstream&p=1189009&viewfull=1#post1189009), maybe iffy on the extent to which real disclosure may have been involved. DeLonge might certainly have been toyed with using that as bait. But other than that you point out exactly the main problem with all DeLonge's antics: things were supposed to happen that never seem to and what did happen inspires cynicism.

Thanks, Walter: yes on all fronts. :thumbsup: :)

Grant Cameron's presentation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWGOG3MwLoU) is also worth watching carefully (not just listening to, because there are many interesting slideshow photos and quotes). He data-dumps a LOT of information, without barely taking a breath in over two hours.

Some of what Grant says can be dismissed, in my strong opinion: e.g.


Dan Smith is batsh*t crazy, and not any kind of reliable source: I have some experience with him — and
There's totally no way any sitting president is in full control of any of this.

But I can personally confirm


What Grant presents about 'The Aviary' is entirely correct.
What he states about William (Bill) Moore is entirely correct, also.
Hal Puthoff and Christopher (Kit) Green were indeed both most interested in the Serpo material, devoted a LOT of time to it, got quite deeply involved in various ways, and I met them both personally for two days in Feb 2006 after they had flown across the US to talk with me about it in depth. And Hal certainly had TS (Top Secret) clearances, but he was an extremely pleasant, gentle, sincere and intelligent man whom I still regard as a friend.

[Gemma13]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWGOG3MwLoU

Can anyone point to an approx. time slot in Cameron’s interview for the “The Aviary” discussion? Thanks in advance.

[Bill Ryan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWGOG3MwLoU

Can anyone point to an approx. time slot in Cameron’s interview for the “The Aviary” discussion? Thanks in advance.

He starts at 24:08.

Here's his list, which is pretty much accurate:

(He omits that Bill Moore was Cassowary, but I've never heard or seen that anywhere apart from via Bill Moore himself, who told me that personally. :) )

http://projectavalon.net/Grant_Cameron_Aviary_list.jpg

[Kevan]

To night Peter Levenda will be on Coast to Coast, maybe he will shedd some light on the matter, that is, if Jimmy doesn't drop the the word "NAZI", cuz that would derail the entire conversation.......

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2017/11/10#.WgWZ24Nd5Qp.link

[Adam Greenland]

https://dpo.tothestarsacademy.com

Unless this is a typo, someone just dropped a 10 million dollar investment in TTSA.

I would expect this total to be corrected to 1.9 million again, unless this group has funding already secured behind the scenes and they really are just setting up the "grassroots" investment so the tech cannot be shut down due to public ownership.

[Amenjo]

Back down to $1,964,519 now.

Seems to be a lot of bugs in their counter.

Love and Truth,


Amenjo

[Cognitive Dissident]

I found another very interesting interview by Grant Cameron:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv9oQOiG53c

It's a good summary of his thoughts on Tom deLonge - basically, he thinks its another one of the government's acclimatisation programs, like Bill Moore and many others. He also seems neutral on the whole good ET/bad ET thing, saying that different programs float different approaches (to see what works?) and deLonge is very much in the "bad ET" school of thought. And he also mentions a filing that TTS did, which I managed to find:

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1710274/000114420417043466/v473169_partiiandiii.htm

Depending on how much money they can raise, here is what they say they will do with it - although note that it's subject to change. Grant Cameron said that Our Two Dogs, Inc. is Tom DeLonge's own company, this from a guy with a very substantial net worth.

Not very inspiring...

USE OF PROCEEDS TO ISSUER

$50 Million Raise

The net proceeds of a fully subscribed offering to the issuer, after total offering expenses, will be approximately $43.5 million. TTS AAS plans to use these proceeds as follows:

· Approximately $12 million on operating expenses, which includes employee salaries in the amount of $7.5 million through 2019. We intend that, of the total employee compensation, $3 million will go towards compensation of executive –level employees and $3.5 million on employees with advanced science, Department of Defense or similar experience. The remaining approximately $4.5 million in operating expenses will go towards infrastructure, logistics solutions, office rent, warehousing and shipping expenses.
· Approximately $3.5 million towards the purchase of larger office premises, research facilities and warehousing.
· Approximately $1.75 million towards durable inventory, which includes records, books, comic books, apparel and accessories sufficient to support growth for media sales internationally.
· Approximately $2.5 million on sales and marketing expenses through 2018, including engagement of a specialized creative marketing agency and a full-time PR firm on retainer for both product releases and corporate communications.
· Approximately $16.1 million towards acquisitions or strategic partnerships in the Aerospace and Science Divisions.
· Approximately $4 million towards self-produced cinematic projects of either existing or newly created original brands.
· Approximately $2.5 million to support initiatives related to the company’s public benefit purpose – science and art education, research to benefit the public, citizen science, and support for veterans.
· Approximately $500,000 to set up and initially fund a non-profit organization to further support the company’s research initiatives.
· Approximately $600,000 to repay a loan from Our Two Dogs, Inc.

$30 Million Raise

The net proceeds to the issuer, after total offering expenses will be approximately $25.6 million. TTS AAS plans to use these proceeds as follows:

· Approximately $6.75 million on operating expenses, which includes employee salaries in the amount of $3.75 million through 2019. We intend that, of the total employee compensation, $1.5 million will go towards compensation of executive-level employees and $1.75 million on employees with advanced science, Department of Defense or similar experience. The remaining approximately $3 million in operating expenses will go towards infrastructure, logistics solutions, office rent, warehousing and shipping expenses.
· Approximately $1.7 million towards the lease of larger office premises, research facilities and warehousing.
· Approximately $1 million towards durable inventory, which includes records, books, comic books, apparel and accessories sufficient to support growth for media sales internationally.
· Approximately $1.5 million on sales and marketing expenses through 2018, including engagement of a specialized creative marketing agency and a full-time PR firm on retainer for both product releases and corporate communications.
· Approximately $9 million towards acquisitions or strategic partnerships in the Aerospace and Science Divisions.
· Approximately $3 million towards self-produced cinematic projects of either existing or newly created original brands.
· Approximately $1.75 million to support initiatives related to company’s public benefit purpose – science and art education, research to benefit the public, citizen science, and support for veterans.
· Approximately $300,000 to set up a non-profit organization to further support the company’s research initiatives.
· Approximately $600,000 to repay a loan from Our Two Dogs, Inc.

$15 Million Raise

The net proceeds to the issuer, after total offering expenses will be approximately $12.7 million. TTS AAS plans to use these proceeds as follows:

· Approximately $3.2 million on operating expenses, which includes employee salaries in the amount of $1.65 million through 2018. We intend that, of the total employee compensation, $600,000 will go towards compensation of executive-level employees and $800,000 on employees with advanced science, Department of Defense or similar experience or similar. The remaining approximately $1.5 million in operating expenses will go towards infrastructure, logistics solutions, office rent, warehousing and shipping expenses.
· Approximately $750,000 towards the lease of larger office premises, research facilities and warehousing.
· Approximately $500,000 towards durable inventory, which includes records, books, comic books, apparel and accessories sufficient to support growth for media sales internationally.
· Approximately $750,000 on sales and marketing expenses through 2018, including engagement of a specialized creative marketing agency and a full-time PR firm on retainer for both product releases and corporate communications.
· Approximately $5.25 million towards acquisitions or strategic partnerships in the Aerospace and Science Divisions.
· Approximately $1 million towards self-produced cinematic projects of either existing or newly created original brands.
· Approximately $500,000 to support initiatives related to the company’s public benefit purpose – science and art education, research to benefit the public, citizen science, and support for veterans.
· Approximately $150,000 to set up a non-profit organization to further support the company’s research initiatives.
· Approximately $600,000 to repay a loan from Our Two Dogs, Inc.

$5 Million Raise

The net proceeds to the issuer, after total offering expenses and commissions will be approximately $4 million. TTS AAS plans to use these proceeds as follows:

· Approximately $1.8 million on operating expenses, which includes employee salaries in the amount of $1 million through 2018. We intend that, of the total employee compensation, $450,000 will go towards compensation of executive-level employees and $450,000 on employees with advanced science, Department of Defense or similar experience. The remaining approximately $800,000 in operating expenses will go towards infrastructure, logistics solutions, office rent, warehousing and shipping expenses.
· Approximately $100,000 towards the lease of larger office premises and/or research facilities and/or warehousing.
· Approximately $75,000 towards durable inventory, which includes records, books, comic books, apparel and accessories.
· Approximately $50,000 on sales and marketing expenses through 2018.
· Approximately $1.5 million towards acquisitions or strategic partnerships in the Aerospace and Science Divisions.
· Approximately $75,000 to support initiatives related to the company’s public benefit purpose – science and art education, research to benefit the public, citizen science, and support for veterans..
· Approximately $400,000 to repay a loan from Our Two Dogs, Inc.

Less Than $5 Million Raise

If the offering size were to be less than $5 million and above the $1 million minimum, TTS AAS would adjust its use of proceeds by reducing planned growth of employee headcount, reducing operational costs, and slowing down projects or not making investment in projects. The company is also required under the loan to Our Two Dogs, Inc. to repay 10% of the net proceeds from funds raised in this offering, up to $400,000 in this scenario.

The company reserves the right to change the above use of proceeds if management believes it is in the best interests of the company.

[Cidersomerset]

This is the follow up interview with Alexander Bruce which is very good and they
do a Q & A from the chat aprox....Aprox 41 mins in 'Twisted Hippy' asks "will Tom
Delong get disclosure or is he a schill " ? and they discuss and are not impressed
so far.


DEEP STATE UFO SECRECY & MEDIA BLACKOUTS! JFK2017
REVELATIONS! DARK JOURNALIST & ALEXANDRA BRUCE

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Streamed live on 21 Nov 2017
Visit http://www.DarkJournalist.com

Humanity Breakthrough vs Deep State Suppression
In this special Live Broadcast, Dark Journalist and his guest Alexandra Bruce from
Forbidden Knowledge TV examine the latest revelations from the JFK Records
Releases along with stunning information about the connection between the Deep
State assassination of JFK with the suppression of exotic technology obtained from UFOs.

They also discuss the role of covert agencies suppressing breakthrough energy
technology and the connections between the JFK assassination, UFO secrecy,
Admiral Byrd, alternative technologies, false flag terrorism, censorship and US
government propaganda

[Star Tsar]

An update from Mr Cameron...


WhiteHouseUFO

New CIA Disclosure About UFOs, Tom DeLonge, & Inter-Dimensional Portals

Published 26th November 2017

Grant Cameron discusses new messages posted on Open Mind Forum by Dr. Ron Pandolfi, using the handle Foot Mann. They deal with the concept of inter-dimensional portals, and with a question posed about a former CIA official (Dr. Kit Green) and his relationship to the Tom DeLonge UFO disclosure operation. Pandolfi, the man who may have briefed Trump and five other Presidents on UFOs, gives an answer which deals with the famous UFO Aviary, John Alexander’s UFO Working Group, and a key ET portal story that occurred in the Reagan White House in 1983. Cameron reads the messages explains what Dr. Pandolfi is talking about, and why this may be something important to follow.

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Latest Update On Former Blink 182 Singer Tom Delonge & His Alien Disclosure News Conference

Published 26th November 2017

Grant Cameron discusses the latest information related to the DeLonge’s To the Stars government supported program to reveal the truth about alien-life and technologies. Cameron lists all the members of the group and explains who they are, and how many of them have CIA background.
He also points out how it is the President of the United States and government that is running the disclosure and hints at what the ultimate goal might be.

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[BMJ]

Body Language: Tom Delonge

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Bombard's Body Language
Published on Nov 30, 2017

An interpretation of Tom Delonge state of mind by Mandy.

[Star Tsar]

Via Mr Cameron

WhiteHouseUFO

Blink 182 Frontman Tom Delonge Update : New CIA/UFO Disclosure

Published 1st December 2017

To quote Mr Cameron "Tom Delonge was setup by the CIA to manage his story. This is slow government disclosure."

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[Star Tsar]

More on US Nimitz


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[mountain_jim]

I got email today from To The Stars Academy with links to the official ufo video, and article in New York Times just published about secret program.

https://coi.tothestarsacademy.com/

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Unprecedented Historical Significance

GIMBAL is the first of three US military videos of unidentified aerial phenomenon (UAP) that has been through the official declassification review process of the United States government and has been approved for public release. This footage, and all official USG footage you will see on TTS Academy’s Community of Interest (COI), comes with essential chain-of-custody documentation validating that it is received in its original and unaltered form and is authentic. The US Department of Defense uses this process in order to meticulously ensure that information and material retain their integrity without revealing sources and methods. This documentation is what sets this footage apart from anything else that has previously made its way to the public domain, by establishing its authenticity and thereby giving it enormous historical significance.

While that fact alone is of historical significance, what this 34 seconds of video provides is remarkable. Several key observations are contained in this one video that may help us collectively better understand the physics and technology being employed. In addition, we hear US fighter pilots struggling to determine the nature of object. Key findings include:

• Low observability in both electro-optical and electromagnetic spectrums.

• No distinguishable flight surfaces.

• Lack of obvious propulsion system.

• Never-before-seen flight capabilities.

• Possible energy or resonance field of unknown nature.

The filename “GIMBAL” seems to be traceable to the unusual maneuvering of the UAP.

Background

GIMBAL is a product of one of the most sophisticated tracking systems on US military aircraft. It was captured by a US Navy F/A-18 Super Hornet using the Raytheon AN/ASQ-228 Advanced Targeting Forward-Looking Infrared (ATFLIR) pod. The ATFLIR contains the most advanced sensors and powerful tracking lasers on the market and must be operated by a weapons sensor operator who the military trains at a cost of millions. The ATFLIR has high resolution and can locate and designate targets at distances exceeding 40 nautical miles.

The date, location, and other information have been removed by the originating authority as part of the release approval process.

The GIMBAL footage shows what was on display in the cockpit for the pilots of the Super Hornet.



https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/pentagon-program-ufo-harry-reid.html

Also linked at To The Stars

https://coi.tothestarsacademy.com/2004-nimitz-flir1-video

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[onawah]

UFOS THE BLACK BUDGET - SENATOR REID & FAKE DISCLOSURE! DARK JOURNALIST
Live streaming with Alexandra Bruce of Forbidden Knowledge
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[onawah]

This is live streaming now as of 46 minutes ago, with live chat ongoing.
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Fake Disclosure Narrative
UFOs have been tracked by the government since at least 1947 so this program, though interesting, comes as no surprise to experienced observers. The presence of former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in this 'Disclosure Narrative' and the revelation that he funneled nearly 22 million to his close friend and campaign contributor Billionaire Robert Bigelow, Owner of Bigelow Aerospace in Nevada, lends an atmosphere of political cronyism and potential corruption to this story.

We will also discuss the role of covert agencies suppressing UFO and Breakthrough Energy Technology!

[we-R-one]

FOLLOW-UP POST

Bear with me,.....Earlier in this thread on Page 6 post #120, I was asked who Zeus might be today based on learning my Artemis identity. I was 95% sure of his identity at the time, but still wanted to get him Akashic confirmed through Kevin Ryerson before sharing. I became aware of his current identity around May of 2016. I was only a few months into realizing my own Greek identity and that of Apollo’s and in fact was sharing with another family member to see if we could figure out their identity in correlation to what I was uncovering. We were discussing the movie Clash of the Titans and the family member I was talking to was remembering how she seemed drawn to the movie and had actually purchased it long ago(emotional memory perhaps?). The next morning I just so happened to be skimming the news headlines when I came across this:

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr251/Idahophotos/CLASH%20OF%20THE%20TITANS%20FOX%20NEWS.jpg (http://s489.photobucket.com/user/Idahophotos/media/CLASH%20OF%20THE%20TITANS%20FOX%20NEWS.jpg.html)

It was beyond ironic to come upon this headline after the conversation I just had the night before, as if someone was listening in….synchronicity? That’s when it clicked and I knew…omg, Donald Trump likely was a soul aspect of Zeus, of course, how did I not see that before! But it’s not just the headline that made it convincing, it’s knowing who Trump is compared to the characteristic traits of Zeus that made it more conceivable, as I looked closer I could spot the same type of patterns one would find when researching any reincarnation case. Like Zeus, Trump has a big personality. I can think of no other person of notoriety capable of comparison. Zeus loved women and so does Trump(contrary to what the fake news will tell you), which is evident in his support and management of world pageants for the past couple of decades. Notice his quiet appointment of women to various cabinet positions? Aah yes…restoring the energetic balance, finally someone who ‘gets it’, I’ve been harping about that for quite some time now.

Like myself, Trump today, was born(New York State) under the symbol of his totem as Zeus, the eagle, as depicted on the state flag and coat of arms. I gave this clue earlier in this thread when I shared I was born under the symbol of the bear and quail, (California)symbols to Artemis, so I knew others from my immediate group would follow suit. I was also seeing 3’s and 7’s in more than one of his incarnations…I was aware of his past life identity as the reincarnation of General George Washington and so are those behind the scenes of the news media. Throughout the beginning stages of Trump’s term as President I noticed continual comparisons being made to Washington’s tenor, no coincidence, I assure you, those behind the scenes know exactly who’s who. For example here’s one of them:

Trump Facing Historical Delays In Confirmation Push
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/08/trump-facing-historic-delays-in-confirmation-push.html
“Trump has the fewest Cabinet secretaries confirmed at this point in the presidency of any incoming president since George Washington."

Did you know it was George Washington who some credit for giving ‘The Empire State’ it’s motto?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_York_state_symbols
“During a tour of the state's harbors, waterways, and fertile interior, George Washington referred to New York as the "Seat of Empire".


On November 29, 2017, my Twin Soul was able to get his past life identity as Apollo and that of Trump’s as Zeus confirmed via Akashic Record reader Kevin Ryerson.
Now that Zeus’ identity is revealed, you know why I gave the 3rd clue below, found in post #120:


“The soul aspect of Zeus has already granted the wish of many in regards to disclosure…..Which falls in line with the well known saying, “..and where do they hide the truth?.. Right in front of you.......

http://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/161119171038-trump-mattis-large-169.jpg

The people now have their wish of E.T. landing on the White House lawn, literally! And he’s in good company….as we now know James Mattis (above) is the soul split of of my Twin Soul (also named James) and the reincarnation of General George S. Patton Jr. aka Apollo. I identified Mattis as my Twin Soul’s split last year in Dec. 2016, but hadn’t confirmed…Out of the blue Dr. Walter Semkiw (unaware of my findings) contacted my Twin to inform him that he had just confirmed Mattis as his soul split via Kevin Ryerson, November 2017. See article below.



https://reincarnationresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Patton-Mattis-Mirror-540.jpg

Source: https://reincarnationresearch.com/category/celebrity-reincarnation-cases/

Why am I posting all this in the Tom DeLonge thread? Because as I said in post #114, Tom and Co. came right out of the gate stating ‘the gods’ of the past were real, and then somewhat insinuated a battle was brewing amongst ‘the gods’ in order to likely promote another generation of war mongering scenarios. We now know more about DeLonge’s associates thanks to Grant Cameron and for me, it screams ‘deep state’ involvement, meaning they have an agenda and it’s not going to be in the best interest of ‘we the people’. If you’ve noticed, they seem to have backed off this fabricated fairytale for now realizing many are turned off and/or have decided to reject the narrative. Like I said, in my earlier post, reincarnation is taking place right in front of you….if one does not incorporate the mechanics of reincarnation into the big scheme of things, then you know there’s something truly wrong with their story. The advantage of knowing individuals past lives is it allows you to observe their intentions through their actions via their documented/famous past lives. Since I know who some of the Greek gods are and were, I can see their ‘intentions’ and it’s not ‘fitting’ into the scenario DeLonge was painting upon instructions given by his ‘handlers’. The methodologies I use to make past live identifications are the same as Dr. Walter Semkiw. It’s not that hard and anyone can do it if they spend the proper time educating themselves on the topic. It's why I know what I know and why I share in hopes of thwarting false scenarios being put out by individuals with nefarious agendas.

[findingneo]

Hopefully this has not been seen already. The First Lady in the series, Designated Survivor died tonight in a car crash. When I googled as to why, apparently the actress is leaving the series to join Sean Pen in the soon to be made series about the first manned mission to Mars. So how better to introduce this kind of thing to the public absorbed in mainstream life, than via a mainstream TV series?

https://www.space.com/38236-sean-penn-stars-mars-tv-series-the-first.html

[Cidersomerset]

I've been listening to the Dark journalist discussion I posted on a related thread
and they are really asking is , yeah we know this and what is the agenda ?
They agree for the layman to hear official confirmation on the mainstream
is great and encourages people to look into the subject seriously but as soon
as they do they will release this is nothing new and what and who are really
behind this disclosure is the real question.

But still this is far better than nothing imo... There is related material and article
on thread below....

Re: Three connected articles ? Pentagon/UFO's , Alien Asteroid ? , Kepler Star with record 8 exoplanets.

UFOS & THE BLACK BUDGET - SENATOR REID & FAKE DISCLOSURE! DARK JOURNALIST

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101001-Three-connected-articles-Pentagon-UFO-s-Alien-Asteroid-Kepler-Star-with-record-8-exoplanets.&p=1196753&viewfull=1#post1196753

[avid]

I've been listening to the Dark journalist discussion I posted on a related thread
and they are really asking yeah we know this , and what is the agenda ?
They agree for the layman yes to hear official confirmation on the mainstream
is great and encourages people to look into the subject seriously but as soon
as they do they will release this is nothing new and what and who are really
behind this disclosure is the real question.

But still this is far better than nothing imo... There is related material and article
on thread below....

Re: Three connected articles ? Pentagon/UFO's , Alien Asteroid ? , Kepler Star with record 8 exoplanets.

UFOS & THE BLACK BUDGET - SENATOR REID & FAKE DISCLOSURE! DARK JOURNALIST

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/editpost.php?p=1196606&do=editpost

“Avid you do not have permission to access this page” (link), what’s going on?
I am active daily, please rectify this mods.





Mod note from Bill: Innocent error from Cidersomerset... he'd quoted his own 'editpost' link, which of course only he has access to. I fixed it, and it's all good now. Thanks for pointing it out!

:thumbsup:

[avid]

Phew, thanks, tried all sorts of web edits which were futile, went into ‘excommunication mode’, but lad in ‘shining error’ rectified this naughty business, Cider....! You are forgiven... 😜👍❤️

[Cidersomerset]

Phew, thanks, tried all sorts of web edits which were futile, went into ‘excommunication mode’,
but lad in ‘shining error’ rectified this naughty business, Cider....! You are forgiven... 😜👍❤️

This is the link I was supposed to post....
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101001-Three-connected-articles-Pentagon-UFO-s-Alien-Asteroid-Kepler-Star-with-record-8-exoplanets.&p=1196753&viewfull=1#post1196753

Sorry avid to spook you , I must of not pressed recover page properly.....:confused:

Thanks Bill for sorting out.....:thumbsup:

[ExomatrixTV]

Grant Cameron on Tom Delonge & To The Stars Academy


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Tom DeLonge himself admits he is a Freemason, see for yourself: SO STAY ALERT & VIGILANT! Question his true loyalties ... he made a ritual oath to the masons agenda not us!
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[Cardillac]

if Tom Delonge is a fraud someone of the repute of Peter Levenda would not of chosen to collaborate with him; the video of Delonge's body language shows nothing whatsoever out of the ordinary (except for the woman shill's voice telling us to read into something that isn't there) and if/IF Delonge is a freemason it doesn't matter; most (not all, but most) freemasons are good people;

the interv. with Cameron (didn't listen to the end) just turned me off because of its immediate bias-

one needs to read the 1st book of a trilogy (I'm just now towards the end of the 1st) "Gods, War and Man" co-authored by both men (very unsettling info) and THEN make up one's mind about Delonge-

Levenda and his yrs. of documented research far out-trump Cameron's verbal hyperbole; read/research Levenda thoroughly; therein are many historical answers and not in the diatribe of Cameron-

please be well John Kuhles and all readers-

Larry

[ExomatrixTV]

Grant Cameron made more than enough GOOD points why Tom Delonge is not to be Trusted! So many questions that only makes sense if some one is compromised!

[Michelle Marie]

Grant Cameron made more than enough GOOD points why Tom Delonge is not to be Trusted! So many questions that only makes sense if some one is computerized!


When deciphering whether information is biased, we always follow the money. What I like about Grant is that he stays independent. He has turned down money making opportunities to remain independent.

When he spoke of all of the alien patsies as having big egos, and that's how they use them, well I've noticed that tactic myself. I've seen people who are minions because of the ego (big titles or fame) and financial boosts. Feed the ego; use them up. They won't see deep enough to know what's going on.

Raising money for his hot dog business (debts?) combined with funds for outing bad aliens?!? Very comprehensive.

Great distraction and possible fear mongering for the masses.

I intend to keep this in perspective while seeing the bigger picture.

MM

[we-R-one]

I agree with Cidersomerset, the news release is better than nothing and what's taking place is nothing like we’ve ever seen. In fact, as I finish typing up this post, Fox News is covering the recent UFO headline story (22 million of Taxpayers dollars….) on their program, The Five….that’s a first…..they just spent 4 min. on the topic.
‘Even President Trump wants to know about Area 51.”- Kimberly Guilfoyle …..

A couple of videos of interest to share:
Here’s a recent one by Grant Cameron addressing the disclosure coverage by mainstream media December 17, 2017. At the 18:32 mark, listen to what he says about Trump, yes aka ‘Zeus’.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOHUO-1Bdgs

Cameron is either learning along the way here or just ‘playing the game’ by pleading ignorance…I remember him specifically stating in a recent youtube video that Trump didn’t care about the UFO topic…Somewhere on Avalon (I’ll see if I can find it), I made the statement ‘ oh he(Trump) cares alright and I disagreed with Cameron’s standpoint….I said something to the effect, take a look at the inside of his N.Y. flat on 66th St. and you’ll see what I mean. (Found it, see post #352 on this thread) My point in stating as such is you will notice reference to the Greek gods within his décor and also reference to another past identity as a French King. I have no doubt that Trump knows who he is….which is reflected in his choice of tastes and style, these are known as ‘emotional memories’….So yes, it’s why I say Trump cares about the E.T. disclosure, and has likely been helping along the disclosure reveal.

It’s possible Grant knows more than what he claims, which is why his stance was initially incorrect. I wouldn’t read anything malicious into his actions, surely he has to be careful about what he says and when he says it.
In this recent video he talks about reincarnation and the Akashic Records, which says to me he understands the significance to the bigger picture. Finally, a researcher that ‘gets it’.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shSRU8iPNtA

15 min. mark talks about ‘experiencers’ and how they’re where it’s at…. 22:08 starts talking about reincarnation…Listen closely to what he says…’this is a reincarnation world’….Yes!!!! Reincarnation has everything to do with what’s going on!

“Reincarnation is a fact, absolutely.” –Grant Cameron

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Wow...now Bret Baier(Fox News) is covering the UFO Story on his program....

[ExomatrixTV]

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[findingneo]

So it has only just occurred to me, having finally finished listening to one of Grant Cameron's videos from a few days ago. The woman who was found in a pod as a baby, she is both human it seems and inter-dimensional. A positive extra dimensional human (or human like) being who can change her height dramatically. Whatever she is, she sounds like a spiritually advanced benevolent being. Phew! The good "being" accounts are few and far between, with most "alien" accounts being of abductions with negative beings. I am so glad there are some very positive "being" accounts that do not seem to mask a dark side. If you are married to a "being" (or have them as a girlfriend/boyfriend) you would get to know them pretty well I imagine, in most cases.

[we-R-one]

This thread seemed 'off' after post #394...I couldn't figure out why I had missed so many comments to the conversation...it appears a separate thread was merged with this one in between the original discussion in case anyone might be wondering.

[we-R-one]

oooh and it continues(disclosure going mainstream)....hot off the press:

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/12/19/stunning-ufo-encounter-by-us-navy-pilot-it-was-not-from-this-world.html

'Stunning' Tic-Tac shaped UFO encounter by US Navy pilot? 'It was not from this world'

"A retired U.S. Navy pilot revealed the time in 2004 when he encountered a strange object he claimed was “not from this world.”

Cmdr. David Fravor, a Navy pilot for 18 years before retiring, said he has come across strange things during his tenure but recalled one encounter on Nov. 14, 2004, that left him puzzled, ABC News reported."

[ExomatrixTV]

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[we-R-one]

Ha! White House Briefing right now..dude started to ask Sarah Sanders about UFO's! lol She cut him off and said she was only going to answer one question. Shoot not sure who he was...

EDIT TO ADD:
Here it is, cue up to 21:04, the reporter's name is Brian, anyone recognize him?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_rPg1asEpA

[Cidersomerset]

This was posted 19 mins ago on their U'tube page and as I have posted on the
other thread all the mainstream channels have reported this seriously on the whole.
Most have asked does this pose a military threat ? which would tie in with
putting the 'false flag Alien invasion' meme into the mainstream. Now the major
western/Saudi etc backed terrorist threats ISIS have been reduced back to levels
that are controllable on the whole except for rogue intel backed cells and smaller
localised groups which have always existed. Asteroids have been talked about
more often over the past decade with calls for more funding and putting up
defensive measures, so it is in the public domain if not weaponized yet.

Carol Rosin > Soviets > Terrorist > Asteroids > ET's ....

Now this may not play out exact as Trump has triggered a new cold war
atmosphere which may of been accidental but certainly has pleased the Deep State
military ind complex with massive arms deals and injection of cash. Plans are
adaptable and time scale not a problem unless they are exposed or the ET's
intervene which is unlikely but we are certainly living in interesting times and
2016/7/8 are living up to David Ickes expectations so far in unexpected ways....

The US military have known about UFO's since Roswell at least so on that level this
is all BS , so it has to be some sort of sanctioned disclosure as we have
speculated . I thought I better add that , So why now ? is it a open/white hat
disclosure so to speak or part of some other agenda as we have been speculating
ie threat to mankind . Still interesting as we speculate and probably nothing happens...:sherlock:


more mainstream news articles on this topic...
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101001-Three-connected-articles-Pentagon-UFO-s-Alien-Asteroid-Kepler-Star-with-record-8-exoplanets.&p=1197082&viewfull=1#post1197082

Ex-UFO program chief: We may not be alone

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Published on 19 Dec 2017

Luis Elizondo, a former military intelligence official who ran the Pentagon's
secret UFO unit, says it is his personal view given all the evidence he's seen
that we may not be alone.

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UFO spotted by US fighter jet pilots, new footage reveals - BBC News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RlbqOl_4NA
Published on 19 Dec 2017
UFO Spotted: The video was filmed in 2004 and investigated as part of the
Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. It's not clear if the object
was ever identified.The New York Times reports that the US Department of
Defence programme was shut down in 2012.


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This chap is a idiot at times like all sceptics they cannot possibly agree with anything....
He admits he does not care and is basically taking the p---......


Neil deGrasse Tyson: UFO doesn't neccessarily mean aliens

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7rYRGbsMW0

Published on 20 Dec 2017
Astrophysicist and author Neil deGrasse Tyson gives his perspective on
the UFO video released by the Department of Defense. Watch the full interview.

[Mike Gorman]

Disclosure happens and it simply looks like a just another day of 'news' - we may not be alone indeed.

[Star Tsar]

May I interject?


Sen. Harry Reid In Exclusive Interview With George Knapp On "Disclosure"

Published 19th December 2017

Senator Harry Reid gives an exclusve interview to George Knapp on the recent dislosure being rolled out in mainstream media. Lets hope it continues

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[we-R-one]

I must have missed this, apparently someone did get the ufo question asked during yesterday's White House Press Briefing. Once again it was a topic of discussion on Fox News program The Five:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAZWii4ZezA

Notice the nervous laughter of the reporters when the question was asked? This is a historic moment in terms of what is normally 'allowed' to be discussed at a White House Briefing.

[Cidersomerset]

Aliens are a myth? Don't be daft. They are manipulating our world.

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Published on 21 Dec 2017
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David mentions the Tucker Carlson clip below.....
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"It Was Out Of This World" Tucker And Navi Pilot Reveals More Info Of The Pentagon UFO Video.

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Published on 20 Dec 2017
"It Was Out Of This World" Pentagon Releases Video. Secret Classified UFO Investigation

[Star Tsar]

A situation report by Mr Cameron...


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New Key Evidence In DeLonge Pentagon UFO Disclosure Affair

Published 21st December 2017

This video looks at the key player in the recent Pentagon leak of UFO video, and the confirmation of a $22 million dollar investigation of UFO sightings, UFO hardware, and UFO experiences. Also a look at the sudden involvement in the UFO story by Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, and a message leaked to him by the CIA, and a look at the possible role of covert Defense Department official Luis Elizondo. Finally a look at the UFO question now being asked of Donald Trump.

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[Hervé]

New gift-wrapped UFO revelations from the Pentagon: what’s going on? (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017/12/22/new-gift-wrapped-ufo-revelations-from-the-pentagon-whats-going-on/)

by Jon Rappoport (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/author/jonrappoport/) Dec 22 (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017/12/22/new-gift-wrapped-ufo-revelations-from-the-pentagon-whats-going-on/), 2017

You’re walking through a sea of misinformation, disinformation, lies, speculation, goofball theories—and suddenly, the wise men behind the curtain decide to reach out and hand you unvarnished facts that blow your mind. What’s going on?

We have an entirely new gambit in the UFO disclosure game.

From loudwire.com (Dec.21): “[Musician Tom] DeLonge is currently working with former Pentagon official Luis Elizondo at To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science, which was founded by the ex-Blink guitarist.” This is a new UFO research and merchandising outfit.

DeLonge has taken it upon himself to expose the truth about UFOs. His new partner, Luis Elizondo, used to work for the Pentagon—and, boom, the mainstream press is suddenly telling us that Elizondo headed up a super-secret, $22 million a year Dept. of Defense UFO research group, from 2007 to 2012, the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program (AATIP).

According to the NY Times and The Independent, the program had, and still has, metal pieces from a UFO(s), has been studying the pieces, and doesn’t knew what they’re made of.

The press has also just released a 2004 Dept. of Defense jackpot video purporting to show a US fighter jet off the coast of San Diego encountering a UFO, which hovers in place, wiggles, dances around, and suddenly zooms away at a shocking velocity.

The Independent:
“Commander David Fravor and Lieutenant Commander Jim Slaight were on a routine training mission 100 miles out into the Pacific when they were asked to investigate the object.”

“Commander Fravor told The New York Times the object was about 40ft long, had no plumes, wings or rotors, and outpaced their F-18s. It was big enough to churn the sea 50ft below it, he said.”
My, my. All these revelations, all of a sudden. Bingo, bango, bongo.

Years of, “We don’t have any information, we don’t have any comment on the subject,” and then, out of the blue, “Yes we do and here it is.”

Let all the WHY NOW? speculations begin.

I would point out that, if this is a test to gauge public reaction to: THERE IS LIFE ELSEWHERE IN THE UNIVERSE AND A FEW OF THEM SHOWED UP HERE—the result of the test appears to be, so far: “Are we having the beef stew again tonight?”

This is interesting. People aren’t crowding into the streets and going wild. There are no parades. Presidents of countries aren’t holding major press conferences. I did read a piece about Trump drinking water again and possibly having trouble sipping it.

HELLO? WE AREN’T ALONE IN THE COSMOS.

“That’s nice. Is this Blue Bloods a repeat? I think I saw it a few months ago.”

Another tidbit on the secret Pentagon program: it was brought into being by Nevada Senator Harry Reid. He and a couple of his senate pals managed to divert a little chunk of black budget Pentagon money to set it up.

(More yawns from the public.)

Understand: In the press stories of the past few days, there are no leaks. The Pentagon is the source. They’re admitting it. They’re pushing the story. They’re permitting a pilot, who no doubt has been bound by non-disclosure agreements, to go public and talk to mainstream media.

As with all planned releases of this magnitude, there are always “after-analyses.” It’s standard. How did the public respond? What % of the press and the public appear to have bought the story? Are there serious doubters? Who are they? What are they saying?

In this case, the report might read: “Very few people seem to care.”

This in itself is informative. People are on overload. They’re in a trance state below the level where a claimed revelation about Life in the Universe stirs them from their basic hypnotic state. Also, alternatively, many people are so cynical they don’t believe what the government is telling them.

Now, if Robert Mueller can connect a UFO to the Russians, and then to Trump, and the election, more people might respond.

The Pentagon claims it shut down the UFO research program in 2012, because other priorities were more important. Really? They captured a UFO on film doing things in space no craft on Earth can do, and they have pieces of metal from a UFO (how did they acquire them?) which they can’t analyze and are most likely not from this Earth—and yet they shut down the program because it was inconsequential?

Nonsense.

One of the point men for spreading the current UFO stories is Ralph Blumenthal of the NY Times.

The Independent:
“’They [the Pentagon] have some material from these objects that is being studied, so that scientists can try to figure out what accounts for their amazing properties,’ Ralph Blumenthal, one of the authors of the New York Times report, told MSNBC. Mr. Blumenthal said the DoD ‘do not know’ what the materials are made of. It’s some sort of compound they do not recognise,’ he added.”
I have a bit of personal experience with Mr. Blumenthal. In 1993, he wrote a shocking story for the Times about the first bombing attack on the Twin Towers in New York. It focused on an FBI asset and informant, Emad Salem, who asserted that he had been instrumental in putting together the bombing plot. His handlers at the FBI were supposed to supply him with fake bombing materials, so there would be no explosion—however, at the last moment, they gave him actual live material. At the subsequent trial of the defendants, Salem was absent. He didn’t testify.

I got in touch with reporter Blumenthal some years later and asked him what happened to Salem and why he wasn’t allow to tell his story in the courtroom. Blumenthal got angry with me. He told me I didn’t understand his article. And that was that. In my opinion, he was backing away from his own reporting.

So now, with his UFO revelations, I have a few doubts.

It’s likely that, as Tom DeLonge and his Pentagon partner, Luis Elizondo, move forward, promoting their To the Stars Academy (whatever that turns out to be—a movie production company, a school, a store for UFO merchandise), they will be releasing new info on the US government UFO discoveries. So far, no one at the Pentagon is explaining why they’ve decided to make their revelations public now.

The military is not in the habit of doing the public great favors that involve secret programs.

If what the Pentagon is handing over to the mainstream press is legitimate and true Disclosure, it is most certainly a limited hangout on what they really know. And they will to continue to release more info, to see how the public responds, at every step.

But they will also seek to own the story and shape it any way they want to. Through their media fronts, they’ll sculpt the conclusions that “should be made.”

For example, suppose they go as far as this: 50 years ago, they found an alien body at a UFO crash site in the desert. Here are photos. The anatomy of the corpse is definitely not human. Since then, no other alien bodies have been seen, located, or discovered.

True? False? Who would know? Because they are the source of the story. Which is the way they want it to be.

If someone wants us to look at the truth, they disclose all the data and they open up all the files, and they allow us to see the material evidence up close and personal, so independent analyses can be performed. What are the odds that this will happen? When has this ever happened?

If anything, positioning themselves as the central source of the UFO story pushes citizen research into the background. Which is never a good thing.

I fully understand there will be many explanations, offered by many people, about why the Pentagon is releasing this information now. Here is one possibility: the secret program was really a tiny research effort; the Dept. of Defense has actually spent extraordinary amounts of money in this effort, over a long period of time—some of it from the trillions of dollars in the budget [U]“they can’t account for.” (https://missingmoney.solari.com/) Thus, they admit to a $22 million program, as a limited hangout.

Again, THEY WANT TO OWN THE UFO STORY. Going directly to mainstream news with it, where naïve reporters and reporters who are their assets will cover it exactly as the Pentagon intends—this is a major part of what is going on.

The psyop aspect of the Pentagon revelations is all about testing and gauging public response. Imagine that the Dept. of Defense eventually states they did find an alien body decades ago—and then the majority reaction is: “That’s fantastic. Did you see my car keys? I can’t find them.”

Not only would that inform psyop professionals about the UFO reaction, it would also let them know their decades of work, on many fronts, aimed at deadening, overloading, distracting, and shortening public awareness has been an overall success.

The most astounding information barely causes a ripple.

“This is wonderful. In many cases, we don’t have to figure out whether the public believes or doesn’t believe what we tell them. They’re in a state of mind that is ‘lower than belief.’ The majority can’t form beliefs or non-beliefs. They’re firmly embedded in a passive, repetitive, Pavlovian zone…”

In this regard, I refer you to my years of research on the effects of medical drugs, and for starters, my September 13 article, “How many drug prescriptions do doctors write per year?” (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017/09/13/how-many-drug-scripts-do-doctors-write-per-year/):

Medical News Today reports that, in 2011, there was a modest uptick in the number of prescriptions written in the US.

The increase brought the total to: 4.02 billion.

Yes, in 2011, doctors wrote 4.02 billion prescriptions for drugs in America.

The Medical News Today article concluded, “…the industry should be heartened by the growth of the number of prescriptions and spending.” Yes, I’m sure the drug industry is popping champagne corks.

We’re talking about prescriptions here. We’re not talking about the number of pills Americans took. We’re also not counting over-the-counter drugs or vaccine shots.

A population drugged to the gills is passive…

Jon Rappoport

[Star Tsar]

Two heads are better than one!


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Grant Cameron & Steve Bassett | UFO Disclosure Happening Now

Published 24th December 2017

Grant Cameron of Whitehouse UFO and Stephen Bassett of Paradigm Research Group discuss the current UFO disclosure occurring via mainstream news and the history / implications. The true agenda is also discussed.

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[Gemma13]

https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/

PART 2

What about the “UFO metal” that no one can analyze?
Robert Bigelow, the “metal man” for UFO disclosure
by Jon Rappoport December 24, 2017
(For Part 1, click here.)

This is a story out of a 1950s pulp science fiction novel. A story that purports to be quite real, now.

Las Vegas billionaire, Robert Bigelow, has been identified as a major player in the secret Pentagon UFO research group (2007-2012), exposed in the New York Times a few days ago.

Here are press reports about Bigelow, just to give you a few facts about the man, and the exotic flavor of this incredible tale—

Gizmodo (12/16/17): “The Pentagon quietly ran a $22 million program to study unidentified flying objects from 2008 to 2012 at the behest of former Senator Harry Reid, the New York Times reported on Saturday…”

“The unclassified but secretive Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program was funded $22 million from 2008 to 2011, with the vast majority of the funding going to Bigelow Airspace. That’s a company conveniently owned by one of Reid’s friends and donors, Robert Bigelow…That $22 million enabled contractors to build a low-key Nevada warehouse for what they claimed was unidentified artifacts obtained from UFOs, as well as compile witness accounts…”

New York Times: “Under Mr. Bigelow’s direction, the company modified buildings in Las Vegas for the storage of metal alloys and other materials that Mr. Elizondo [who headed up the secret Pentagon UFO program] and program contractors said had been recovered from unidentified aerial phenomena…”

Bigelow made his fortune in commercial and residential real estate. He’s a pal of Senator Harry Reid. And he gets to store the most important materials ever discovered in his warehouse. No problem.

We aren’t told whether the UFO materials were analyzed under Bigelow’s direction (no one has been able to discover what these metals are, what they’re made of), but if most or all of the $22 million Pentagon program went to him, it’s possible this real estate tycoon was permitted to supervise, or sub-contract, the analysis of the UFO metals.

Really?

The UK Express is rightly blown away: “METAL and other materials allegedly recovered from UFOs was stored in converted buildings in Las Vegas under a US Government-funded program, it has astonishingly been claimed.”

“The material, that was said to be ‘unknown to science’ following tests, was stored in buildings modified by a private aerospace company [Bigelow] which was paid huge amounts of money by the US Department of Defense to research the phenomenon and look after the ‘metal alloys’, according to reports.”

“However, no images have surfaced of the alleged material, nor have any details of where it was found, or any reports of tests carried out on it.”

“In May Mr Bigelow stunned the world by declaring during an interview with primetime CBS current affairs show 60 Minutes, that believes that intelligent aliens are secretly living on Earth, and the government knows about it.” [A convenient interview, preparing the public for shocking UFO disclosures that were to come six months later.]

“It is now claimed that under his [Bigelow’s] direction buildings at the company headquarters were ‘modified’ to allow the storage of the materials [from UFOs].”

“No further details have been released at this stage about where they [the UFO materials] were found, how many there are, or what happened to them.”

“It also does not appear any official reports on the materials have been released, but it is claimed that research was also carried out on people who came into contact with the material to see if there were any effects on them.”

“Express.co.uk has approached Mr Bigelow through Bigelow aerospace to try to find out what happened to the material, if he still has it, and whether it can be photographed, or any reports on studies on it can be released.”

“We have also contacted Mr Reid, and Mr Elizondo through To The Stars Academy, asking if they know what became of the materials.”

“We await responses from all three.”

Las Vegas Review Journal: “The [NY] Times’ investigation unearthed contracts showing the [Pentagon UFO] program received $22 million in federal funding between 2008 and 2011. The money went to Bigelow Aerospace, the North Las Vegas-based company founded in 1999 by Robert Bigelow, owner of the Budget Suites of America hotel chain and one of Reid’s longtime friends and campaign contributors.”

“Bigelow’s company modified buildings in Las Vegas for the storage of metal alloys and other materials reportedly recovered from unidentified aerial phenomena, the Times said.”

OK, those are a few of the press reports.

Question: Should we really believe metals from UFOs have been recovered, analyzed, and stored at Bigelow’s warehouse—rather than at a super-secret military lab in a bunker?

Should we believe these materials actually come from UFOs? How were they obtained? A pilot in a US fighter jet operated a robot arm that reached out into space and scraped off a few samples from a streaking or hovering alien craft? A UFO crashed, and military personnel rushed to the scene, confiscated the craft wreckage, transported it to Area 51…and years later, a few soldiers drove metal samples to Bigelow’s warehouse and dropped them off for safe-keeping?

Bigelow’s low-profile warehouse has the kind of security that could protect the most important materials ever discovered by humans?

Well, there is a story. The story has been told. It’s been fed to the mainstream press, and the press has run with it—including the New York Times. The man who headed up the 2007-2012 secret Pentagon program, Luis Elizondo, is agreeing with the story.

One lesson: When you own and control the narrative, and when the press is bending over backwards to give you access, you can sell almost anything. In this case, based on no physical evidence, you can say UFO metals have been recovered and no one can figure out what they are, and a rich pal of a US senator has been storing them in his warehouse. No problem. And the man who confirms the story, Mr. Elizondo, who worked for the Pentagon, is now a media point man for something called To the Stars Academy, founded by a rock musician who has a commitment to discovering “the truth about UFOs.” Wow.

I’ve got condos on the dark side of the moon. Cash only for interested buyers.

Here is my backgrounder on a few vital basics of propaganda, which means information control, which means mind control. This is the game in the Information Age. This is how it’s done.

Who owns the UFO narrative?

ONE: 1947-2017 (seven long decades)—“WHAT ARE THE CIA AND THE PENTAGON HIDING ABOUT UFOs? WE DEMAND THEY COME CLEAN AND OPEN THEIR FILES AND TELL THE TRUTH AND REVEAL THE SECRETS! STOP LYING AND STALLING.”

TWO: 2017—“HI, WE’RE THE PENTAGON. HERE ARE SECRETS ABOUT UFOs AND THE PROGRAM NO ONE KNEW ABOUT. NO PROBLEM. IN FACT, WE’RE IN DIRECT COMMUNICATION WITH THE NEW YORK TIMES.”

Hmm. What’s that smell?

Sudden Pentagon revelations about UFOs and recovered metal pieces of UFOs: an unknown ship in the sky executing maneuvers and operating at speeds beyond the reach of human technology; the failure to discover what a UFO is made of. These stories are coming right out of the Department of Defense. Officially. They’re not unauthorized leaks. And the moment the stories were handed to the NY Times, they became THE narrative.

The Pentagon owns the narrative, and so does the Times.

This is a necessary condition for big-time propaganda.

For decades, independent UFO researchers have been trying to force the government to admit what it knows—but now, when suddenly that magical moment arrives, the result is not what was hoped for, because the Pentagon and the Times can stake an overriding claim to the overall UFO story.

To consent to this new state of affairs requires blind faith in institutions which have a well-deserved reputation for lying.

It’s as if the Pentagon is saying, “We’ve been willing to go to war anywhere for any reason, based on false pretexts, but now we want you to believe exactly what we’re telling you about UFOs.”

More importantly, the Pentagon can now sell this: “For a long time, you’ve been listening to independent UFO researchers, but now we will take over the narrative, because we can provide truly authoritative information on the subject, and we can push rumor and speculation [independent research] to the side.”

Since 1987, investigating in the medical arena, I’ve been pointing out the horrendous consequences of allowing government agencies to own narratives. Horrendous, in terms of human damage incurred from medical drugs.

I’ll extend the parallel. During the height of the Health Freedom movement in America, in the 1990s, the federal National Institutes of Health (NIH), the largest medical research operation on the planet, suddenly announced they were forming a department to study unorthodox, formerly scorned “alternative treatments.” Papers would be written, research grants would be doled out, holistic practitioners would be brought into the fold. Voila. The “medical Pentagon” was opening its gates wide. Predictably, this effort turned out to be a con. There was no intention to allow a significant role for alternative medicine. The plan was to co-opt alternatives and let them die a slow death. But behind that con was another move: NIH was attempting to take over the “alternative” narrative.

NIH would now tell that story and own it and control it and decide who was in and who was out. Fortunately, the ploy has largely failed, because the public hasn’t viewed the government as a reliable source of knowledge about natural health.

When Big Media and the Pentagon are suddenly showing up like Greeks bearing UFO gifts, beware.

They may spread lies from wall to wall, or they may tell a bit of the whole truth and try to shut down the rest. Whatever they are doing, they’re selling a fake.

And lest we forget, the Pentagon is in the business of inventing threats. Everywhere. Will they now release new UFO “information” designed to promote “alien threats,” thus underscoring the need to expand the Department of Defense’s power? Or conversely, will they present a kind and gentle approach, in order to convince us the Pentagon is made up of good people lending a helping hand? Either way, they win…

If they can maintain control of the narrative.

That’s how propaganda works.

Who is OFFICIAL, and what is their OFFICIAL position? That’s the key.

In the blink of an eye, after a hundred thousand people have been digging into a mystery for decades, a force which people accept as OFFICIAL can hijack the mystery and explain it any way they want to. It’s aliens, UFOs, a Russian dictator, ISIS, criminals from an opposition political Party.

It doesn’t matter. It only matters that the OFFICIAL group has the (hypnotic) faith of the public in its pocket.

The group can even win over some of those independent investigators, who breathe a huge sigh of relief and say, “Finally, we’re getting the truth. OFFICIALLY.”

This acceptance is automatic.

“Oh, they obtained metals from UFOs and they couldn’t figure out what they were composed of. So the materials came from another planet. And a businessman has them in his warehouse. I don’t need to study them. The materials are OFFICIAL.”

That’s mind control par excellence.

Bow the head and bend the knee. We’re good. At last.

I’m not saying the story is fake or real. I’m saying when a stimulus gains an immediate response, the intended response, propaganda wins. The operatives pop the champagne corks. They done their job.

A year ago, the New York Times would have laughed at the very notion of someone trying to sell them this story. But now, the stars suddenly align, the reporters are sober and a bit breathless. They turned on a dime. The ship has sailed.

“Well now it’s different. Now we have a credible source.”

Really? A former employee from the Pentagon, the agency that’s “lost” trillions of dollars?

An employee named Luis Elizondo, who has this bio posted on his new company’s website, To the Stars Academy? Read his bio carefully:

—“Luis Elizondo is a career intelligence officer whose experience includes working with the U.S. Army, the Department of Defense, the National Counterintelligence Executive, and the Director of National Intelligence. As a former Special Agent In-Charge, Luis conducted and supervised highly sensitive espionage and terrorism investigations around the world. As an intelligence Case Officer, he ran clandestine source operations throughout Latin America and the Middle East.”

Wonderful. Of course. We can believe him. He’s official.

The question is: Official What?

High-level intelligence spook.

[Star Tsar]

Linda's on the case!


EarthFiles

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Phenomenon Radio | George Knapp & Grant Cameron | Mondo Elizondo?

Recorded & Published 26th December 2017

Saturday, December 16, 2017, was a historic day and night in the annals of the US government seventy years of covering up the alien presence behind UFOs with strict policies of denials ordered in 1947 by President Harry S. Truman, allegedly in the interest of national security, this new crack in official US government policies of Lies and denials began on Saturday with the New York Times headline article “glowing auras and black money the Pentagon's mysterious UFO program”

That report contained two embedded infrared videos of UFOs from the Defense Department's advanced aerospace threat identification program. That agency was unknown to most everyone until December 16 2017. The New York Times reported that the DoD's advanced aerospace threat identification program was brought secretly into being by retired Nevada Democrat Harry Reid who was the US Senate Majority Leader in 2007 that's when he got 22 million dollars allocated over five years to the Defense Department's budget to create and operate the DoD program to study the extraordinary technologies moving in Earth's skies and seen by hundreds of military pilots. The UFO craft in military videos accelerate like nothing ever seen before and traveling at astoundingly fast speeds stop mid-air do
90-degree angle turns brighten and dim and seem to expand in size and then disappear.
. . .
Tonight is dedicated to KLAS Channel 8 Las Vegas investigative journalist George Knapp. He's on deck and ready to go - here's Linda Moulton Howe to start the show.
George Knapp welcome it's a pleasure to have you back at this time in which Saturday, December 16, 2017, was a historic day and night in the annals of the US government's seventy years of covering up the alien presence behind UFOs with strict policies of denial and you and I and others have been waiting a long time for something that would be official from the Department of Defense.

Could you start today on phenomena radio with your own insights about the importance of what happened on Saturday, December 16th?

Well I think it's huge it feels like we've turned a corner and the main difference is mainstream media being willing to give this subject a fair shake you know the story has been there for the taking for a long time if anyone wanted to look at it but of course it was easier to ignore it or make fun of it and denigrate those who are involved in it than it was to actually do the work and dig into it. But lo and behold when the New York Times finally decides to go ahead and dig into it they find that it's a legitimate story and that sort of started a tsunami of coverage that I hope is the start of a trend that lasts. I worry that American news media is sort of like American news consumers that the attention span is that comparable of that of an that and thirty seconds from now that want to move on to something else I hope that's not the case I am told that the New York Times is working on other stories there are a lot of other interviews they did that they have not used yet and that they will be pursuing it further. I think that sets a template for the other news media lets others know that if the Times can cover it that it's acceptable for them to cover it as well they don't have to worry about being slammed as being wackos Linda you and I can relate to that a little bit that how that works so I'm very hopeful that it that it leads to ongoing coverage by major media and that it lets elected officials and government officials know that it's okay to discuss this in the open you know Harry Reid I guess we're going to talk about the Harry Reid interview that I've done this week

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How can this thread have so many tags? I thought the limit was five.

[Cidersomerset]

MSNBC's turn to cover this seriously , with the To the Stars logo prominent on the vid..

Pentagon Is Investigating The Existence Of Aliens | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC

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Published on 26 Dec 2017
Luis Elizondo, former Head of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat ID Program,
discusses the time he spent investigating the existence of aliens and UFOs on Earth.

[Satori]

This is another neat little scam these criminals in Congress employ. They give lots of money to so-called nongovernmental and similar organizations to carry out governmental operations: operations that government all too often has no constitutional authority to carry out. Congress then allocates or appropriates, translation: gives, untold billions of borrowed "money" to the NGOs. The people who operate the NGOs and other deep/dark and unaccountable organizations, then control the input and output and make a fortune in the process, all off the backs of we, the debtpayors.

Some neat benefits these criminals enjoy are additional secrecy and less scrutiny. As it stands now, theoretically at least, if Congress or other ostensibly legitimate government departments or agencies were engaged in what members of Congress unconstitutionally delegate to their crony friends, NGOs and the like, Congress would be subject to myriad laws, such as the Freedom of Information Act (sic). These NGOs etc... are at present not subject to these laws because they are "private" not public entities. You can't successfully send a FOIA request to a private person or entity. You want something, even if you are entitled to it, if they won't voluntarily turn it over--and they usually won't--you're looking at expensive, time consuming and exhausting litigation where during the discovery process, if you get that far, you might get the information.

[Star Tsar]

Latest from Mr Cameron...


WhiteHouseUFO

Disclosure Day 9 | DeLonge, The Pentagon Disclosure, & The Metals

Published 26th December 2017

On Day 9 of Disclosure Grant Cameron looks at what is new in the Pentagon Disclosure first highlighted in the New York Times. Included is a brief look at metals that might be included in the UFO materials stored in a Las Vegas facility, along with 70+ reports and two dozen films produced in the $22 million government study..

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Grimerica interview with Jacques Vallee as mentioned above:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3596-Up-At-The-Ranch-And-Beyond&p=1180552&viewfull=1#post1180552

[Bill Ryan]

Some clarification here, if it may be needed:


http://kgraradioarchives.com/shows/phenomenon-radio/?loc=2017#archive

Linda Howe did two recent shows with Grant Cameron, the second one also with George Knapp.


14 Dec 2017, with Grant Cameron:
http://kgraradioarchives.com/Shows/phenomenon-radio/2017/PRS121417KGRA%20-%20Phenomenon%20Radio%20-%20Grant%20Cameron.mp3

(http://kgraradioarchives.com/Shows/phenomenon-radio/2017/PRS121417KGRA%20-%20Phenomenon%20Radio%20-%20Grant%20Cameron.mp3)
21 Dec 2017, with Grant Cameron and George Knapp:
http://kgraradioarchives.com/Shows/phenomenon-radio/2017/PRS122117KGRA%20-%20PHENOMENON%20-%20%20Special%20Guests%20George%20Knapp%20&%20Grant%20Cameron.mp3 (http://kgraradioarchives.com/Shows/phenomenon-radio/2017/PRS122117KGRA%20-%20PHENOMENON%20-%20%20Special%20Guests%20George%20Knapp%20&%20Grant%20Cameron.mp3)

The YouTube video is of the second one (which is maybe why the YouTube cover says 'Part II', while the title says Part I).

Anyway — both are here. ^^ I also deleted boja's post, which is now essentially a duplicate. (But thank you! :thumbsup: )

[norman]

This is another neat little scam these criminals in Congress employ. They give lots of money to so-called nongovernmental and similar organizations to carry out governmental operations: operations that government all too often has no constitutional authority to carry out. Congress then allocates or appropriates, translation: gives, untold billions of borrowed "money" to the NGOs. The people who operate the NGOs and other deep/dark and unaccountable organizations, then control the input and output and make a fortune in the process, all off the backs of we, the debtpayors.

Some neat benefits these criminals enjoy are additional secrecy and less scrutiny. As it stands now, theoretically at least, if Congress or other ostensibly legitimate government departments or agencies were engaged in what members of Congress unconstitutionally delegate to their crony friends, NGOs and the like, Congress would be subject to myriad laws, such as the Freedom of Information Act (sic). These NGOs etc... are at present not subject to these laws because they are "private" not public entities. You can't successfully send a FOIA request to a private person or entity. You want something, even if you are entitled to it, if they won't voluntarily turn it over--and they usually won't--you're looking at expensive, time consuming and exhausting litigation where during the discovery process, if you get that far, you might get the information.

My tinglies are saying that if there is anything even resembling real disclosure afoot here, it's going to be a massive bum rush straight past all the historic criminality and onto a landing pad of a sexy space faring recruiting agency, for the next generation, complete with "don't ask questions" contracts.

[Cidersomerset]

Ep. 778 FADE to BLACK Jimmy Church w/ Stephen Bassett : Disclosure 2.0 : LIVE


Interview starts aprox 34mins in....They start talking about the recent disclosures
by Tom De Longs group.

Robert Bigelow 60 Minutes..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY2OYSDYsVI
Published on 17 Nov 2017.Robert Bigelow Reveals Alien Life is Already Here on Earth


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Air date: December 26, 2017
Published on 27 Dec 2017

Stephen Bassett is the executive director of Paradigm Research Group founded in
1996 to end a government imposed embargo on the truth behind the so called "UFO"
phenomenon. Stephen has spoken to audiences around the world about the implications
of formal "Disclosure" by world governments of an extraterrestrial presence engaging
the human race. He has given over 1000 radio and television interviews, and PRG's
advocacy work has been extensively covered by national and international media. In
2013 PRG produced a "Citizen Hearing on Disclosure" at the National Press Club in
Washington, DC. On November 5, 2014 PRG launched a Congressional Hearing/Political
Initiative seeking the first hearings on Capitol Hill since 1968 regarding the extraterrestrial
presence issue and working to see that issue included in the ongoing presidential campaign.

Tonight we are going to discuss Disclosure...all of it. What December 16, 2017 meant to the
world and how we now move forward.

[Cidersomerset]

Stanton is impressed with the initial release.......

Stanton Friedman weighs in on Pentagon's Secret
UFO Search, with Kathleen Marden, 12-27-17

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Streamed live 21 hours ago

Stan Friedman with Kathleen Marden weigh in on the Pentagon's Secret UFO Search.
Stan mentions he is pleased with Tom DeLonge's efforts and the team of high profile
people on the To The Stars Academy board. Kathy mentions how important Luis Elizondo,
Chris Mellon and Dr. Hal Puthoff among others are to the board as well. Stan: "It's a new
ballgame!" https://podcastufo.com/ In hour two, along with replying to caller's questions,
they discuss the Betty & Barney Hill case including some never mentioned before family
dynamics when they decided to go public.

[Cidersomerset]

Richard Dolan .......Secret Pentagon UFO program unveiled

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101130-Wow---...Richard-Dolan-on-CBS-News......Secret-Pentagon-UFO-program-unveiled-28-12-17&p=1198587&viewfull=1#post1198587

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Published on 28 Dec 2017
In early December, a report revealed that the Department of Defense spent 5 years and
$22 million researching and documenting what it calls "unidentified aerial phenomena."
Richard Dolan, UFO researcher and historian, joins CBSN to provide some insight into
the government's "Advanced Aersospace Threat Identification Program

[Star Tsar]

The second part of this broadcast pertains to this thread


Whitley Strieber's Dreamland

End Of Year Show

Published 22nd December 2017

Dr Gary Schwartz on how he verified the Afterlife Revolution: 0:5:49
Dean Radin on magic as future technology: 0:21:45
Marla Frees on new visions of psychic energy: 0:41:35
William Henry on the Jerusalem controversy: 0:57:40

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Dr. Jeff Kripal on myth and UFO disclosure: 0:00:00
Dr. Diana Walsh Pasulka on new UFO discoveries: 0:22:25
Dr. Garry Nolan on the physical side of contact: 0:43:20
Peter Levenda on the future of To the Stars:1:07:06
Ralph Blumenthal, co-author of Times Dec. 16 UFO disclosure story: 1:27:24
Leslie Kean, co-author of Times Dec. 16 UFO disclosure story: 1:46:50
Grant Cameron on disclosure as it will unfold in 2018: 2:03:35
Linda Moulton Howe on a Harvard Astronomer's disclosure reaction: 2:22:04
Whitley Strieber demonstrates the Sensing Exercise as a communications tool: 2:41:54

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[RunningDeer]

UFO CIA Reality Show! DeLonge, Harry Reid, NY Times, Fast Disclosure OP
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DarkJournalist
Published on Dec 29, 2017

Dark Journalist Announces Special Live Report Coming on January 1st 2018 at 4PM Eastern! The report will cover in-depth the CIA UFO Tom DeLonge New York Times False Disclosure Op!

Visit http://www.DarkJournalist.com

[Star Tsar]

Rey gives the experiencers angle...


PortalToAscension

Rey Hernandez & Dr Bob Davis | Experiencers & UFO Disclosure

Published 29th December 2017

Rey Hernandez from the FREE organization co-founded with Edgar Mitchell discusses UFO disclosure from an Experiencers view point and what the new studies say in regards to contactees experiences.

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[ExomatrixTV]

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[Cidersomerset]

1/1 UFO DISCLOSURE PSYOP! DID TOM DELONGE & CIA PUNK THE NY TIMES? DARK JOURNALIST

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Streamed live 2 hours ago

Exposing the False Disclosure Op!
Dark Journalist Special Report on The UFO Disclosure Counter Intelligence Psyop
by Tom Delonge, Luis Elizondo, Harry Reid, Academy to the Star & The New York Times!

Visit http://www.DarkJournalist.com

[Mike Gorman]

I like Steve Basset a lot - my intuition tells me he is a strong character with impeccable values and good intentions-we need more people like Steve, I place him in the same league as Bill, who I know to be man of consummate integrity and good vibes.

[findingneo]

Re the video you posted above Cidersomerset, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY2OYSDYsVI

Bigelow reveals a few tidbits about his belief in ET's, and it looks to me like he is an abductee. That close a contact with his grandparents usually suggests strongly that they have had an abduction experience as I understand it. Gray abductions also apparently runs in families down the genetic line. And he said but does not elaborate on his own experience(es) re Et/craft.

He has an aerospace mega business where he has what looks like the face of a Grey as a logo. And he bought the Skinwalker Ranch for it's paranormal activity to set his scientists to research it. I would bet that he has no doubt there are ET's that exist because he probably has a better idea than the vast majority in the ufo community what is what. He knows and does not care who does not believe because he knows. I expect he bought the SkinWalker Ranch to further his knowledge on ET's/ED's/ufo's/and how to get from one place to another, inspired by a drive to know what his family has encountered, and to have some control over the human inability so far, to grasp and gain sovereignty over their own bodies, consciousness, and freedom. He is covering all exits I would say. Going where no man has gone before.

Re Rey H in another post, and FREE, the data shows as far as I am concerned a funneled, directed, blinkered viewpoint from folk who have a belief in good only ET's. The questions in the questionnaires they collated their data from, did not incorporate the possibility that ET's could well be ED's. Therefore, when given limited options from which to choose when filling in these questionnaires, folk filling in multiple choice or directed questions, are funneled into making a restricted choice, which skews results. Folk who tend to bring up the prospect of neg et's with Rey tend to get a rather angry response. Keep in mind that his wife is very Catholic.

[Builder]

(Maybe Bigelow deserves his own thread)

Currently Youtube gets flooded with videos claiming in their titles that Bigelow was the wealthy Las Vegas business man in Jordan Maxwell's reptilian ritual story. But Jordan never mentions Bigelow.

Has anybody here any further information on that?

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Layoffs Hit Bigelow Aerospace (http://spacenews.com/layoffs-hit-bigelow-aerospace/) (January 7, 2016)


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What ex employees are saying about Bigelow Aerospace on glassdoor (https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Bigelow-Aerospace-Reviews-E373179.htm)

Example:

Pros

Really Awesome, Intelligent Engineers, Techs and Support Personnel (the ones who stay). Free Cookies, Ice Cream & Coffee. Salary was good. There are some amazing projects to work on . Good work life balance.

Cons

Management Runs on Fear and Intimidation which comes down from the top!! Everyone walks on egg shells all the time, most don't have the balls to speak up (they like their paychecks). Some of the Managers will publicly humiliate you in front of your colleagues if something goes wrong. Although managers get blamed for Everything by Mr. B they NEVER take the blame for anything publicly. They will always find a scapegoat.
No matter how wrong something is or how right you are DON'T SPEAK UP. You will be marked and your days will be numbered. As long as you keep your head buried in the sand and don't speak the truth you will be fine.
They claim we should be grateful about getting fed 3 days per week but the food is terrible and management is too lazy to switch menus or companies and most people are scared to ask for fear of repercussions.
I have never worked for a company where certain secretaries and other low level pencil pushers wield so much power (for the record Most are great).
No matter how good you are... No Matter How important you are to the Mission... No Matter how long you have been a loyal subject if you speak up, if you speak the truth your days will be numbered.


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The People of NewSpace: Robert Bigelow, part 1 -- 1950′s Nevada: UFOs
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Note that Bigelow does not partner with SpaceX, a fellow NewSpace (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NewSpace) company, but with the "old guard" of United Launch Alliance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Launch_Alliance) (ULA) a joint venture of Lockheed Martin Space Systems and Boeing Defense, Space & Security.

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[Bill Ryan]

Currently Youtube gets flooded with videos claiming in their titles that Bigelow was the wealthy Las Vegas business man in Jordan Maxwell's reptilian ritual story. But Jordan never mentions Bigelow.

Has anybody here any further information on that?

MHtwd1uaFtA


Just as info here, Jordan never once mentioned Bob Bigelow to me in any of our conversations.

[findingneo]

Hi Builder, this interview you posted is interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DceaEUUcXpI

Bigelow talks about why he became interested in space (I still think the UFO sightings were significant), and that it was due to the above ground nuclear testing that took place at the Ellis Airforce Base near his home. It seems odd that he is still healthy. Anyway, I listened to an old you tube video that mentioned that ufo's came through a dimensional tear where nuclear testing took place. So it is well known that ufo's can and do disable nuclear missiles, but according to what seemed a credible ufo community pioneer, such places have damaged the fabric of the universe and cause a tear allowing ufo's through, back and forth between dimensions. He mentioned often other paranormal stuff was also sighted at the same time, for the same reason. So essentially, ED's. I wish I could remember the video.

[findingneo]

That is interesting Bill, where Jordan Maxwell says in your interview video above that the foot nail that caught in the towel on the floor before the reptilian went through the wall, or dimensional membrane, remained intact (and continued growing), even when the reptilians were gone. Interesting that the reptilians walked through a divider as well. Seems to be the same method the Grey's use to exit 3D, or at least the accounts I have listened to online or read about.

When Jordan first began to mention aluminium foil, I thought he was going to say the people in the room were going to put it on the wall (along with a steel sheet or something), to make a faraday seal over the portal. I wonder if it would be effective or just "P" off the reptilians? I wonder if the "R's" could move the portal to elsewhere in the house if required?

[Builder]

Raytheon is bragging on their website (https://www.raytheon.com/news/feature/uap_atflir.html) about the UFO tracking capabilities of their product:

“We might be the system that caught the first evidence of E.T. out there,” said Aaron Maestas, director of engineering and chief engineer for Surveillance and Targeting Systems at Raytheon's Space and Airborne Systems business.


Are they the source of the videos? Although: “To really be sure, we would need the raw data,” said Dr. Steve Cummings

At least it's a major step for a defence contractor to write about ET and UFOs!


A U.S. Navy ATFLIR, designated AN/ASQ-228, mounted under a fighter jet:

https://www.raytheon.com/news/rtnwcm/groups/sas/documents/image/rtn_475606.jpg

Raytheon's Advanced Targeting Forward Look Infrared sensor, like the one used to track a possible UFO in a 2004 incident, is carried under the wing of this fighter jet:

https://www.raytheon.com/news/rtnwcm/groups/sas/documents/image/rtn_475605.jpg

Three F/A-18 Super Hornet fighter jets practicing dogfight maneuvers were interrupted and revectored mid-mission to investigate an Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon; military parlance for a UFO. They engaged the craft, but were quickly outmaneuvered and lost visual contact. It had simply vanished.

The pilots were clearly baffled by the object. “Look at that thing, dude,” said one in a video credited to the U.S. Department of Defense by the New York Times.

Fast forward 13 years to Dec. 16, when the New York Times published a report on the 2004 incident and a little-known Pentagon program that tracked such reports from 2007 until at least 2012. Included was the video of the incident, which was captured by a Raytheon Advanced Targeting Forward Look Infrared sensor, mounted under one of the fighter jets.

Called the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program, the government program analyzed UAP imagery and data such as the images from the Raytheon-made ATFLIR.

“We might be the system that caught the first evidence of E.T. out there,” said Aaron Maestas, director of engineering and chief engineer for Surveillance and Targeting Systems at Raytheon's Space and Airborne Systems business. “But I’m not surprised we were able to see it. ATFLIR is designed to operate on targets that are traveling in excess of Mach 1. It’s a very agile optical system with a sensitive detector that can distinguish between the cold sky and the hot moving target quite easily.”

ATFLIR, designated AN/ASQ-228 by the U.S. Navy, is a single pod that combines mid-wave infrared targeting and navigation FLIRs, an electro-optical, or visual light, sensor, a laser rangefinder and target designator, and a laser spot-tracker. It can locate and designate targets day or night at ranges exceeding 40 nautical miles and altitudes surpassing 50,000 feet.

Even so, the video images are not definitive proof that the jet pilots were chasing an actual UFO.

“To really be sure, we would need the raw data,” said Dr. Steve Cummings, vice president of Technology Development and Execution at Raytheon Space and Airborne Systems. “Visual displays alone are not the best evidence.”

So how best to track an alien spaceship in our skies?

“Wide-area search of some form or another," said Cummings. “I would want want at least two sensors, like radar and [electro-optical/infrared], to search the skies...One way to actually verify these and be absolutely certain that this is not an anomaly is to get the same target, behaving the same way on multiple sensors.”

[Star Tsar]

This may be of interest to you..


PortalToAscension

David Sereda : UFO Disclosure & Advanced Alien Propulsion Technology

Published 4th January 2018

David Sereda discusses the current UFO Disclosure occurring and dissects the UFO video footage from the viewpoint of propulsion and the advanced technology required to make such movements.

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[Star Tsar]

A Sit Rep from Mr Cameron


WhiteHouseUFO

Tom Delong UFO Story - Newest Developments In The Pentagon

Published 4th January 2018

As 2018 begins here are the latest developments on the New York Times, Washington Post, and Politico revelations of a $22 million dollar Top Secret military black budget Defense program to investigate UFOs. New revelations include the possible roles of CIA, DIA, and Navy Intelligence, and President Donald Trump. The head research physicist at the Institute at the Institute for Advanced Studies, who worked on the $22 million study, adds insight into what happened.

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[findingneo]

Live interview by Kerry Cassidy, with guest John Lear, with the main theme being that the Tic-Tac sighting plastered over the media recently was actually our craft from the SSP. Interview has not been going very long but John has already firmly told Kerry to stop interrupting him when he is trying to finish questions and saying she interrupts with questions that are irrelevant. (Yep.) Here is the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WT4u_Snmto&feature=push-lsb&attr_tag=DQNvuFkl6QPDwxKq-6

ADD ON: Gosh, a lot more as well. They are talking just now about the link below where a man called "Bruce" has managed to penetrate the moon hologram, and film lots of structures on the moon. ( I thought there was more to Crow777's you tube looping holographic videos he called "The Lunar Wave" that looked like a hologram).

https://bruceseesall.com/category/bruce-sees-all-takedown-videos/

He is quite fearless, John Lear.

[Harley]

Apparently the DOD denies the program Louis Elizondo claimed
to be in charge of even existed.

From Dark Journalist on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/DarkJournalist/?hc_ref=ARRDZ9y-IIEPjM3SZJtGqLfs30si8xcYudCB1Iff4ORuyK5Yc4Cp-RohMTM8pnsK2Ho&fref=nf)

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Well at least they made it further into the Mainstream Media than Goode et al. did.

Damned PSYOPs :)

[Star Tsar]

Linda's on the case!


EarthFiles

https://yt3.ggpht.com/4rqUM2trCz8kjEsorZWcc834L2n-79VAqAH_1_-gc7tZZDLfWFx8DwO_hkCTxHnW0Nu4B5KHyYs=w2120-fcrop64=1,00005a57ffffa5a8-nd-c0xffffffff-rj-k-no

Phenomenon Radio | George Knapp & Grant Cameron | Mondo Elizondo?

Recorded & Published 26th December 2017

Saturday, December 16, 2017, was a historic day and night in the annals of the US government seventy years of covering up the alien presence behind UFOs with strict policies of denials ordered in 1947 by President Harry S. Truman, allegedly in the interest of national security, this new crack in official US government policies of Lies and denials began on Saturday with the New York Times headline article “glowing auras and black money the Pentagon's mysterious UFO program”

That report contained two embedded infrared videos of UFOs from the Defense Department's advanced aerospace threat identification program. That agency was unknown to most everyone until December 16 2017. The New York Times reported that the DoD's advanced aerospace threat identification program was brought secretly into being by retired Nevada Democrat Harry Reid who was the US Senate Majority Leader in 2007 that's when he got 22 million dollars allocated over five years to the Defense Department's budget to create and operate the DoD program to study the extraordinary technologies moving in Earth's skies and seen by hundreds of military pilots. The UFO craft in military videos accelerate like nothing ever seen before and traveling at astoundingly fast speeds stop mid-air do
90-degree angle turns brighten and dim and seem to expand in size and then disappear.
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Tonight is dedicated to KLAS Channel 8 Las Vegas investigative journalist George Knapp. He's on deck and ready to go - here's Linda Moulton Howe to start the show.
George Knapp welcome it's a pleasure to have you back at this time in which Saturday, December 16, 2017, was a historic day and night in the annals of the US government's seventy years of covering up the alien presence behind UFOs with strict policies of denial and you and I and others have been waiting a long time for something that would be official from the Department of Defense.

Could you start today on phenomena radio with your own insights about the importance of what happened on Saturday, December 16th?

Well I think it's huge it feels like we've turned a corner and the main difference is mainstream media being willing to give this subject a fair shake you know the story has been there for the taking for a long time if anyone wanted to look at it but of course it was easier to ignore it or make fun of it and denigrate those who are involved in it than it was to actually do the work and dig into it. But lo and behold when the New York Times finally decides to go ahead and dig into it they find that it's a legitimate story and that sort of started a tsunami of coverage that I hope is the start of a trend that lasts. I worry that American news media is sort of like American news consumers that the attention span is that comparable of that of an that and thirty seconds from now that want to move on to something else I hope that's not the case I am told that the New York Times is working on other stories there are a lot of other interviews they did that they have not used yet and that they will be pursuing it further. I think that sets a template for the other news media lets others know that if the Times can cover it that it's acceptable for them to cover it as well they don't have to worry about being slammed as being wackos Linda you and I can relate to that a little bit that how that works so I'm very hopeful that it that it leads to ongoing coverage by major media and that it lets elected officials and government officials know that it's okay to discuss this in the open you know Harry Reid I guess we're going to talk about the Harry Reid interview that I've done this week

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Part two

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Phenomenon Radio | George Knapp & Grant Cameron | Mondo Elizondo?

Published 5th January 2018

Mr Cameron's input

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[Star Tsar]

Mr Cameron answers your questions...


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Tom Delonge Pentagon Disclosure Q&A

Published 7th January 2018

Grant Cameron answers questions about the claims being made that the United States government has disclosed that UFOs are real. Topics discussed involve the UFO videos talked about by the New York Times and Washington Post, Chris Mellon, Bob Bigelow, Senator Harry Reid, the claims of recovered metals, and the UFO reports connected to the $22 million dollar government UFO investigation.

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[Bill Ryan]

The new Forum Borealis interview with Peter Levenda — recorded a week ago, but just published:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIYnl9hIv2w

[norman]

When Peter Levenda says "where else do you go", when asked why he trusts government/military people to be on the level, my reply would be, try meditation.

Our empathy and genuine inquiry are as manipulated as our fears.

[Joe from the Carolinas]

Listening to that great interview with Levenda.

I guess in thinking about the cycles that have happened over the years in the mainstream press, it seems that every so often we get a wave of ufology, then it goes away. Maybe I’m jaded on it. I know those days of Bob Lazar, UFO Cover up live with the aviary, etc.

This seems different, but the past cycles are hard to ignore.

[Star Tsar]

May be of interest to you...


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Phenomenon Radio | Richard M Dolan | Post Disclosure World? (Part One)

Published 10th January 2018

Mr Dolan is interviewed by KGRA stablemate Linda Moulten Howe on the recent "Pentagon Disclosure".

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[we-R-one]

The new Forum Borealis interview with Peter Levenda — recorded a week ago, but just published:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIYnl9hIv2w

Watching the video now...around the 13min. mark, Levenda starts talking about disinfo agents and 'who can you believe'...I find this pretty comical considering who he's rubbing shoulders with, such as JPL, Skunkworks and CIA, lol.....is he for real? Somebody who knows more, help me understand the logic here.....The same group that claims responsibility for disclosure who then turned around to discredit the video they released? Edit to add...I say this because John Lear is apparently CIA so he's in the same group.

[Bill Ryan]

help me understand the logic here.....The same group that claims responsibility for disclosure who then turned around to discredit the video they released?

It seems as if what's happening is that, for whatever reason, there's dissent/disagreement about all this within the intel ranks.

For instance, Ron Pandolfi coming out and criticizing Hal Puthoff for being a 'scientologist'. (Go figure: they've been colleagues for years, and Hal left the Church of Scientology way back in the early 1980s along with the great exodus there. That's simply an attempted cheap smear from someone who was once one of Hal's friends.) And then — go figure again — Julian Assange coming out to say exactly the same thing. (Wow.)

It pains me to say it, but it really does look as if Assange was told to say that. But I wonder why?

[we-R-one]

Thanks Bill, it's getting very confusing to follow....sigh....many of us can't sit here all day watching videos to keep up with the narrative. $^*%^!!

[Al Borealis]

Thanks Bill, it's getting very confusing to follow....sigh....many of us can't sit here all day watching videos to keep up with the narrative. $^*%^!!

Totally agree with you. Which is why we wanted to get some info out of one who knows more than what we learn from most of the speculations out there. We don't just philosophize, there will be specific critical questions (most of them in part 3), where we raise all these standard objections. Then you can judge for yourself. I do believe Levanda to be sincere though, in that he is speaking the truth as he perceives it.

[norman]

.....The same group that claims responsibility for disclosure who then turned around to discredit the video they released? . . .



Daniel Liszt recently pointed out that the pentagon denied releasing the video themselves and so must have been done by ( I think ) Pandolfi.

The art of confusion has had decades of practice. They don't have to script very much, they only have to set up well proven dynamics and let the clock run.

Why ? . . . probably because the objective is nothing like what Grant Cameron etc think it is. The profile of this kind of thing looks, in many ways, like the profile of the trauma based mind control, decades ago. It's not blades under the fingernails, it's our hopes going 12 rounds with a battering machine.

[Joe from the Carolinas]

.....The same group that claims responsibility for disclosure who then turned around to discredit the video they released? . . .



Daniel Liszt recently pointed out that the pentagon denied releasing the video themselves and so must have been done by ( I think ) Pandolfi.

The art of confusion has had decades of practice. They don't have to script very much, they only have to set up well proven dynamics and let the clock run.

Why ? . . . probably because the objective is nothing like what Grant Cameron etc think it is. The profile of this kind of thing looks, in many ways, like the profile of the trauma based mind control, decades ago. It's not blades under the fingernails, it's our hopes going 12 rounds with a battering machine.

I did an FOIA request on the entire program with the DoD, not a single video. The DoD said that it fell under the scope of the DIA. I’ve yet to hear back from the DIA, but I know they were forwarded my request by the DoD.

[Bill Ryan]

I did an FOIA request on the entire program with the DoD, not a single video.

In this most interesting and well-informed 4 Jan 2018 Phenomenon Radio discussion between Linda Howe, John Burroughs and Richard Dolan, Burroughs presents his research that the video dates are deliberately incorrect. His best guess is that that's to ensure that any FOIA requests would fail.


http://kgraradioarchives.com/Shows/phenomenon-radio/2018/PRS010418KGRA%20-%20PHENOMENON%20-%20%20Special%20Guest%20Richard%20M%20Dolan.mp3

[we-R-one]

Thanks Bill, it's getting very confusing to follow....sigh....many of us can't sit here all day watching videos to keep up with the narrative. $^*%^!!

Totally agree with you. Which is why we wanted to get some info out of one who knows more than what we learn from most of the speculations out there. We don't just philosophize, there will be specific critical questions (most of them in part 3), where we raise all these standard objections. Then you can judge for yourself.

I appreciate your efforts and will watch for corresponding parts. Not that my opinion is accurate….but Levenda sounds just as naive as DeLonge! I’m glad he’s so sure he’s not being played considering who he’s working with…Even the interviewer(I’m assuming you, AlZan) says, once CIA always CIA…creating an awkward moment for Levenda, who is basically surrounded by CIA with his involvement, lmao……oh but wait, ‘we don’t feel guilty by association’-Levenda.

Levenda makes it sound like they’re(him and Tom) are in control of the arrangement, when really it seems it’s the other way around. Yaa right,…. 1st rule of Fight Club, there is no Fight Club, lol. This is the perceived perception I'm walking away with at this point.

“We don’t wanna make stuff up”- Levenda…..
If that’s the case, than why the discrepancy about the released video?




I do believe Levanda to be sincere though, in that he is speaking the truth as he perceives it.

Well stated...'as he perceives it', that's the key statement.

He's rubbing shoulders with masters of psychological warfare who've been CIA funded, who's he kidding? I'm open for correction if my interpretations are wrong.

[we-R-one]

.....The same group that claims responsibility for disclosure who then turned around to discredit the video they released? . . .



Daniel Liszt recently pointed out that the pentagon denied releasing the video themselves and so must have been done by ( I think ) Pandolfi.

Ya, well I don't think Pandolfi would release videos from the DOD without the Pentagon's permission..... So if he's playing the 'going rogue' card, I'm not buying it.

[Bill Ryan]

No-one's violated their security clearances, or released any classified information, without full highest-level authorization.

That's 100% for sure. :)

[jagman]

If you want power over the deep state you must first gain leverage over them. Gen Mattis number one guy just decides he wants to retire and throws his hat into the ring with Tom Delonge. UFO footage is leaked by someone at dod.

[boja]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzZBzk3aGoI

So the 2 gun-camera videos were leaked out in 2007 (10 years ago).

(Confirmed by Dr Eric W Davis.)

Out of all the gun-camera footage of UFOs that the authorities have (that must be an enormous amount),

They release these 2 snippets which were already unofficially leaked out years ago.

What a surprise.

[Star Tsar]

Here is the complete interview


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Phenomenon Radio | Richard M Dolan | Post Disclosure World? (Part One)

Published 10th January 2018

Mr Dolan is interviewed by KGRA stablemate Linda Moulten Howe on the recent "Pentagon Disclosure".

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Part two:

Phenomenon Radio | Richard M Dolan | Post Disclosure World? (Part Two)

Published 11th January 2018

This is the concluding part to Linda's interview with Richard...

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[we-R-one]

Fox News Tucker Carlson- New UFO information
UFO EXpert, we must be prepared for the truth...Leslie Kean on the show right now, check it out. They list her as a UFO Expert.....

Edit to add: Ok that was uneventful...maybe 3 minutes of nothing....just enough to continue the slow drip. zzzzzz

[mojo]

Wow it's happening, The Mainstream news is again discussing that UFO's are real. Tucker Carlson on Fox news tonight is sharing that the Gov is saying they are real it was a great interview to see with Leslie Keen speaking. We never needed the secret ops to tell us just a media outlet to report fair about the subject. The interesting thing is that people aren't laughing. So if we are at the point people believe they are here there has to be a logical progression of thought to lead the media to ask why or who? Could disclosure now come from the ETs themselves when questions are being asked? They may have been here watching and waiting to tell us without anyone's help? it can be wild ride this year... :)

edit: oops I posted this as someone else at the same time sorry but glad you watched it too!

[we-R-one]

Could disclosure now come from the ETs themselves when questions are being asked? They may have been here watching and waiting to tell us without anyone's help? it can be wild ride this year... :)

Why yes....and he goes by the name of Trump aka Zeus. The American people got their wish of the E.T.'s landing on the White House lawn....they not only landed they're in the White House! But wait, there's more.....not only did they get Zeus, they also got a soul aspect of Apollo aka Mad Dog Mattis.

ROFL....There are people in 'the know', as why would the the Associated Press publish the following back in May of 2016, see below. Oh yes, it could get very interesting and I suspect you have Trump to thank for the release of information....
Don't forget Bigelow's remarks...

"You don't have to go anywhere," he declared, "it's just like right under people's noses." - Bob Bigelow

The question is...do 'they' know who they are? I bet TRump does...looking inside his New York flat for clues and your question will be answered. Mattis....I'm on the fence....however I know his soul split does, (my twin soul). He's the reincarnation of General Patton who was widely known to have a belief in reincarnation that stayed with him, so it's likely Mattis might carry the same memories. Both have been Akashic confirmed through Kevin Ryerson. And we are finding similar matches(objectives)one will find when a proper identifications have been made. It's not a coincidence....Stay Tuned, but don't necessarily count on a full reveal, it remains unknown if the population is ready for such information. I'm ok if people think I'm full of crap, I'm comfortable with the findings.

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Let's enjoy the show!

[Al Borealis]

And we should believe the DOD because...?

Let's not already forget that these are the same bastards who's robbed the people of 40 trillion and plays around with their own classified space fleet.



Apparently the DOD denies the program Louis Elizondo claimed
to be in charge of even existed.

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Well at least they made it further into the Mainstream Media than Goode et al. did.

Damned PSYOPs :)

[Amenjo]

As they seem to be releasing previously leaked footage of UFO's I wonder if this will be the 3rd video they have been talking about. I saw this a few years ago, but forgot about it until recently.

The incident happen in Aguadilla, Puerto Rico on April 25th 2013 at 9.20pm.

An unknown object was picked up by radar flying at low level near the Rafael Hernandez airport, causing the delay of a commercial aircraft from departing.

A Customs & Border Protection aircraft just happened to be flying close by and took this FLIR video of the incident.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPJD_cElkO8

There has been much speculation since, with claims of it being a bird or a balloon. But an extensive 18 month study of the footage by experts in their fields at SCU (Scientific Coalition for UFOlogy) came to the conclusion that we are really witnessing an unknown craft.

The craft is estimated at being only 4ft in diameter, and travelled at speeds between 40-120mph.

When first observed the object appeared as a red light and soon afterwards the light went off, it could only be viewed in the darkness with the infrared camera.

At several points near the end of the video the object appears to go underwater and another point it splits into two objects.

Here's a link to SCU's website (http://www.explorescu.org) with the 162 page report (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Xl9_Tngtatb253enFpRERTdW8/view) on the incident.

And interestingly enough they are now analysing the footage released back in December.

Love and Truth,


Amenjo

[Star Tsar]

Latest from DLDJ!


Dark Journalist

Alexandra Bruce | UFO Mandela Effect & Deep State Disinformation Surge!

Published 12th January 2018

Dark Journalist Daniel Liszt & Forbidden Knowledge TV's Alexandra Bruce look the sudden surge of disinformation hitting the mainstream and alternative media! Together they discuss some of the topics of the week, starting with the corporo-fascist censorship on the major social media platforms Google-YouTube, Facebook and Twitter, with employees of the latter caught on camera explaining how they censor political content. Then they cover the Q Anon phenomenon and its collapse, the Pentagon’s UFO psyop, parallel universes and the Mandela Effect, the Dulce Wars, the Montauk Project, cryptocurrencies and more!

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[Cidersomerset]

Fox News Tucker Carlson- New UFO information UFO EXpert, we must be
prepared for the truth...Leslie Kean on the show right now, check it out. They list
her as a UFO Expert.....

Edit to add: Ok that was uneventful...maybe 3 minutes of nothing....just enough to
continue the slow drip. zzzzzz

Its not to bad for what it is at least there was no 'giggle' factor and was a serious
piece. Not much substance but a start and I did not like the Chinese mil ref and
Leslie Kean was as bad as Nick Pope for not saying much.

Next time Tucker ring...... Grant , Richard , Linda , Daniel or someone similar

Kerry would be fun but probably to much for the mainstream at this stage...:ranger:




2017-01-11 - Interview with Leslie Kean

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Published on 13 Jan 2018


2017-01-11 - Interview with Leslie Kean

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Grant Cameron Part I

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Published on 12 Jan 2018
Interview with Grant Cameron on 1/21/2016
Laurence Rockefeller a brother in the family of David and Nelson Rockefeller invited a
dozen of us investigating UFOs to his j.y ranch in Jackson Hole Wyoming on September
14 to 15 1993. He called it a UFO Roundtable by then Bill Clinton have been US president
for nine months the group of us had been invited to talk candidly with Mr. Rockefeller
about our various research efforts ranging from animal mutilations, human abductions,
crop formations, telepathy, ESP, to government and military policies of Lies in denial
about the alien presence interacting with earth.

What we did not know was that Laurence Rockefeller with the help of retired naval intelligence
officer CB Scott Jones have prepared an ad to be placed in the New York Times, The Washington
Post, Chicago Tribune, Los Angeles Times and a few other major newspapers that read quote Mr.
President, meaning Bill Clinton, on the subject of UFO phenomena what do you know, when did
you learn it, have you shared it with Congress, when will you talk to the American people about
it the subject is as important as any we will ever face don't try to go it alone this information
belongs to the world close quote.

This was Lawrence Rockefellers velvet glove threat behind the pressures he was putting on newly
elected President Bill Clinton to open up the government's UFO FILES to the public mr. Rockefeller
knew that then chief of staff John Podesta was a big supporter of disclosing the truth of UFOs and
he knew that Bill and Hillary Clinton wanted to know more as well two years went by after that
gathering of US researchers without Lawrence Rockefellers ad appearing nationwide in major
newspapers perhaps because President Clinton seemed to be trying in his own way to go around
the classified blocks of intelligence agencies.

Listen to the entire interview right here

For our most recent interview with Grant Cameron click here:
Part One: https://youtu.be/tCNVGEDoY-I
Part Two: https://youtu.be/ZNc02Va-2qw

[Kristin]

Of interest: Linda, Richard, and Burrows discuss Soft Disclosure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrsCqP2mdOg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZRK2bu9WeE

Also of interest: Peter Levenda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIYnl9hIv2w

[Star Tsar]

I found this interesting I hope you do too!


The Paracast

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Alejandro Rojas & Walter Bosley | SSP OTT?

Published 14th January 2018

Both Walter & Alejandro use their professional perspectives to dissect the recent UFO Pentagon Program admission, Perception management in regards to UFOs, The possibility of a secret space program & Just how advanced it may be.

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[Star Tsar]

Latest from Linda...


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Phenomenon Radio | Dr Eric Davis & Steven Bassett | Dr Eric W Davis PhD (Part One)

Published 16th January 2018

Dr Eric Davis joins Linda to trash out the origin & date of the two "Pentagon UFO videos...

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[Star Tsar]

Latest from Ms Kean


Open Minds UFO Radio

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Leslie Kean | UFOs & The New York Times

Published 16th January 2018

Leslie Kean is an investigative journalist who has been published internationally and nationally in the Boston Globe, Baltimore Sun, Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Providence Journal, The Nation, International Herald Tribune, Globe and Mail, and Journal of Scientific Exploration, among other publications. She is the author of UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go on the Record, a New York Times best seller, and numerous articles on the subject of UFOs. She is coauthor of Burma’s Revolution of the Spirit and cofounder of the Coalition for Freedom of Information. She lives in New York.

She is the co-author of the recent article in The New York Times revealing the U.S. Department of Defense’s Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. We are lucky enough to be the first among the non-mainstream media to have the opportunity to interview Leslie on how the story came about, and what other pieces of information she may be able to share about the program.

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[Star Tsar]

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Phenomenon Radio | Dr Eric Davis & Steven Bassett | Dr Eric W Davis PhD (Part One)

Published 16th January 2018

Dr Eric Davis joins Linda to trash out the origin & date of the two "Pentagon UFO videos...

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EarthFiles

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Phenomenon Radio | Dr Eric Davis & Steven Bassett | Steven Bassett (Part Two)

Published 18th January 2018

Steven Bassett joins Linda to discuss the recent Russian loud boom sounds heard a thousand of miles around Russia & The Pentagon videos.

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[Star Tsar]

New evidence has surfaced...


Dark Journalist

Alexandra Bruce, Dr Joseph P Farrell & Walter Bosley | UFO Deception Operation! Bigelow, Delonge, Reid & New York Times Exposed

Published 19th January 2018

Dark Journalist Daniel Liszt & Forbidden Knowledge TV's Alexandra Bruce & Giza Death Star Author Joseph P Farrell present captivating evidence & commentary that will reveal the NY Times UFO footage was actually the result of a training operation and actualy only shows normal aircraft at a distance in infrared, Shot on gun cameras with a gimbal revolving head. It's obviously being passed off as something exotic by insiders who should know better & mainstream journalists who are not consulting aviation experts.

Author Walter Bosley also joins them to discuss ginewine black project protocols & The current status of intelligence frontman Luis Elizondo.
Q&A section included also.

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Goddard's Journal video mentioned in interview:

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[Star Tsar]

Mr Cameron with an update


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Grant Cameron | UFO Discosure Update Day 34

Published 19th January 2018

Grant Cameron shares the newest insights in the current drip UFO disclosure agenda invoving all the factions. Learn what the agenda may be & What has been occuring since the December 16th announcement.

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[Bill Ryan]

New evidence has surfaced...

Dark Journalist

Alexandra Bruce, Dr Joseph P Farrell & Walter Bosley | UFO Deception Operation! Bigelow, Delonge, Reid & New York Times Exposed

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5zJNa7yjAU4

Goddard's Journal video mentioned in the interview:

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:bump:

Bumping the very interesting Goddard's Journal video. This shows the possibility that the 'Gimbal' UFO is simply another jet being followed. Daniel Liszt and Alexandra Bruce were both pretty convinced that this is what was happening, and they're crying foul.

I'm not yet quite so convinced: the movements of the UFO didn't seem to be in accordance with a jet with wings, banking to turn, etc. But the Goddard's Journal video is definitely worth watching very carefully.

[BMJ]

Could disclosure now come from the ETs themselves when questions are being asked? They may have been here watching and waiting to tell us without anyone's help? it can be wild ride this year... :)

Why yes....and he goes by the name of Trump aka Zeus. The American people got their wish of the E.T.'s landing on the White House lawn....they not only landed they're in the White House! But wait, there's more.....not only did they get Zeus, they also got a soul aspect of Apollo aka Mad Dog Mattis.

ROFL....There are people in 'the know', as why would the the Associated Press publish the following back in May of 2016, see below. Oh yes, it could get very interesting and I suspect you have Trump to thank for the release of information....
Don't forget Bigelow's remarks...

"You don't have to go anywhere," he declared, "it's just like right under people's noses." - Bob Bigelow

The question is...do 'they' know who they are? I bet TRump does...looking inside his New York flat for clues and your question will be answered. Mattis....I'm on the fence....however I know his soul split does, (my twin soul). He's the reincarnation of General Patton who was widely known to have a belief in reincarnation that stayed with him, so it's likely Mattis might carry the same memories. Both have been Akashic confirmed through Kevin Ryerson. And we are finding similar matches(objectives)one will find when a proper identifications have been made. It's not a coincidence....Stay Tuned, but don't necessarily count on a full reveal, it remains unknown if the population is ready for such information. I'm ok if people think I'm full of crap, I'm comfortable with the findings.

36883

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Let's enjoy the show!

Further to your thoughts we-R-one on Trump and Mathis and possible confirmation of sorts, regarding their respective soul history.

Statue titled Enthroned Washington

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George Washington depicted as Zeus, with the side of the chair depicting Apollo riding a horse drawn chariot.



George Washington (1840) is a massive sculpture by Horatio Greenough commissioned for the centennial of U.S President George Washington's birth in February 22, 1732.

Horatio Greenough based “Enthroned Washington” on Phidias' great statue of Zeus Olympios which was one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World (and which was destroyed in late Antiquity).

The seated and sandal wearing Washington gazes sternly ahead. He is bare-chested and his right arm and hand gesture with upraised index finger toward heaven. (Interesting Trump is also a firm believer in God/heaven). His left palm and forearm cradle a sheathed sword, hilt forward, symbolizing Washington turning over power to the people at the conclusion of the American Revolutionary War. (Interesting it seems to be Trumps intent also)

The rear base of the statue features a Latin inscription, which reads:
SIMULACRUM ISTUD
AD MAGNUM LIBERTATIS EXEMPLUM
NEC SINE IPSA DURATURUM
HORATIUS GREENOUGH
FACIEBAT[3]
The translation is: "Horatio Greenough made this image as a great example of freedom, which will not survive without freedom itself."


Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington_(Greenough)

[we-R-one]

Yes, exactly BMJ, very good! You are noticing parallels. And yes Trump is the reincarnation/soul aspect of George Washington. You may have noticed in recent times the press often making comparisons between Washington and Trump. It says to me, ‘they’ know exactly who is who! And he’s not the only one ‘they’re’ doing it to, so it’s not a coincidence. Someone at the top understands ‘the game’. And they are literally putting things in front of the public in which the public has no idea of what’s taking place before their very eyes. I caught the same information about George Washington you did, from a past show on History Channel which I believe originally aired back in 2012. Here are my notes which came directly from the program:

“There is another depiction of Washington that specifically depicts him as a Divine figure. Congress authorized an incredible statue by Greenough, in which he is depicted as Zeus. The statue has several key features which identify him as a man of peace and a conductor of heaven and Earth. His sword is offered to the viewer of the statue, indicating he is here in peace. On the side of the statue, there is a very important representation of the god Apollo riding his sun chariot, or star chariot. Was Washington some sort of cosmic being riding through the heavens in his own star chariot? It is depicted so.” -The United States of Aliens Series/Special 2017 on Fri 6/30/2017/ air time, 10:05-2:00am

After watching the show last summer, I pulled the information online from this link.
http://zazenlife.com/2012/12/27/extraterrestrials-and-the-founding-fathers/

Did the founding fathers know who Washington once was? Remember George is one individual who is said to have had a UFO sighting back at Valley Forge. Here’s ufologist Bill Birnes reporting:

George Washington’s UFO sighting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA7dL67fxrM

The painting depicted in the above video show’s a UFO behind George Washington with a ladder. This is Jacob’s ladder. The meaning is tied to the ancient studies of Geomancy, something I’m aware of and have noticed while studying reincarnation cases. I do not have a full understanding yet, to explain in great detail however I know it follows the principles of Feng Shui. The painting is suggesting that you have souls that incarnate in soul groups in specific locations. I will try and find the painting to place in this post later. Here it is:

http://www.ufoquest.info/ufoquest.info/NEWS/Entries/2010/2/21_NEW_DISCOVERY__Evidence_of_UFOs_found_in_a_MASO NIC_lithograph_from_1866_files/21975_267205904594_518534594_4384169_5659951_n.jpg


Here’s another Trump/Washington comparison pointed out by the press and there have been many.

Trump Has Fewest Cabinet Secretaries Confirmed Since George Washington
http://dailysignal.com/2017/02/13/trump-has-fewest-cabinet-secretaries-confirmed-since-george-washington/

Trump Facing Historic Delays In Confirmation Push
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/08/trump-facing-historic-delays-in-confirmation-push.html



I believe another incarnation of Trump is King Louis XIV. Take a look here at the portrait of The Sun King.

http://www.lessingimages.com/w2/260306/26030609.jpg

King Louis XIV painted as ‘Jupiter’ aka Zeus, did he know his identity back then? Research shows often you are doing things tied to who you once were….Notice the eagle...symbol to Zeus, symbol of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, symbolic of New York state's seal...aka birthplace of Donald Trump.

7 Fascinating Facts About King Louis XIV:
https://www.biography.com/news/louis-xiv-biography-facts

“Follow the 3’s and 7’s and then one might find who are the god’s from the heavens”- Elizabeth Marie 4/26/2016

SEVEN WONDERS OF THE ANCIENT WORLD
http://www.history.com/topics/ancient-history/sevens-wonders-of-the-ancient-world
Statue of Zeus at Olympia/ Temple of Artemis at Esphesus

For those who are confused as to why this discussion is on this thread…it’s because Tom DeLonge and company have been talking about the Greek Gods, so I know they know who we are and why we’re here and for some of us, where we are…..and that we aren’t mythology, we are real people. Tom only knows of this because he’s been feed information via his government sources. You would not know this kind of information unless you were studying the past lives of these individual. And the only reason you would be doing such things is if you were one of the Greek gods,….this is my soul group as I am one of the Greek gods. Everything I’m sharing is true to the best of my knowledge and interpretation. The Greek gods are known ‘guardians’ of planet Earth. Some of our missions, from what I can see, are to guide souls through the reincarnation process by playing key roles in history which is why you will find us reincarnating over and over again within leadership roles, hence the parallels you are seeing between Trump and Washington. We are not perfect in every way and should not be construed as such.

Hermes aka Ryuho Okawa, son of Zeus is also aware of Trump’s identity as George Washington. To the best of my knowledge he is not yet aware of Trump’s aka Zeus’ identity. He was informed by myself, however I’m not sure he was given the information as he seems to have ‘handlers’ answering his email, rendering himself as unreachable. I was given an email reply, ‘no, he (Trump), is the reincarnation of Washington….lmao…..yes, well I already knew that part. I did not respond back as I have no interest in dealing with ‘handlers’…..Aaah yes….’for those who have eyes to see………’,

http://info.happy-science.org/files/2016/10/904mv3tn.jpg

To know who you are is to know others, ‘Know Thyself’ as in your truth, others will find theirs and in their truths you will find your own. If you want to understand ‘the game’, studying your past life ‘core’ incarnations is the ticket. It’s not about being famous, it’s what it implies.

Some of your leaders are the Greek Gods, who are tied to the E.T. race The ELohim, which is why I say, ‘we never left you…….we never left you!’- ELizabeth Marie aka Greek goddess Artemis.

Personally I can assure those in doubt, we are not here to eat you, lol. I am watching you Mr. DeLonge and Co., and if you take the angle that we are out to destroy humanity I will shout it to the moon that you are twisting our intentions; and one can only see such things when they know who ‘The Others’ are, have been and will be. Oh that’s right…I am, already have, and will be as long as needed.


*I may add more to this post to keep all the info in one place, for now I'm out of time, editing done later.

[mojo]

As Bill mentions above the Gimbal UFO has acquired it's share of opponents, just like all ufo footage there's no magic bullet to silence all skeptics. But, that reminds us that we shouldnt put all the disclosure eggs in one basket. Josh Gates program in 2017 filmed with high def pro cameras the best evidence in 2017 on Easter Island. We also have that late Dr. Leir's implant evidence, the Bob White molten metal fragment as well as other trace evidence would present a strong case for disclosure.

[Bill Ryan]

As Bill mentions above the Gimbal UFO has acquired it's share of opponents, just like all ufo footage there's no magic bullet to silence all skeptics. But, that reminds us that we shouldnt put all the disclosure eggs in one basket. Josh Gates program in 2017 filmed with high def pro cameras the best evidence in 2017 on Easter Island. We also have that late Dr. Leir's implant evidence, the Bob White molten metal fragment as well as other trace evidence would present a strong case for disclosure.
100% agreed. :thumbsup:

But the real point with the possibility of the Gimbal video simply showing another jet in infrared is that maybe there are clues there about the intentions of the team who are managing and puppeteering DeLonge.

For example (one of many!) — supposing it's authoritatively debunked in a few months' time, in the NY Times, and on CNN and MSNBC. Or, maybe, retracted with an apology.

That's then a setback for disclosure. Who knows what the real game plan is, but it's not totally impossible that this is one of the strategies in play.

Others reading this might speculate on other reasons to 'disclose' with a 'fake' (or misidentified) video..... if indeed it's not the real thing.

[PathWalker]

I wish to share this video.
I am still watching it now.
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[findingneo]

I am currently listening to your video PathWalker, but am struggling due to the video seriously lagging.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67NleOdhG1s

However, I thought John Greenwald was excellent in his tenacity and calm demeanor in getting as close as anyone can to relevant documents in the desire for ufo disclosure and clarity.

I was really waiting for the part about Bigelow, which really does not start until after John leaves. Official bits of paper are wonderful in discovering tidbits of information that humans know, that are in the know, about the ufo phenomenon, but it boils down to peoples personal experiences that can provide the most enlightenment on the subject, if only one can sort the chaff from the wheat.

We are trained to rely on "official documents" to provide us with facts. If it is on an official document, then it must be true and don't even bother processing the personal experiences as it were. But if you have an elusive target to look at, you have to look at elusive information, and maybe, extrapolate as best you can. No mention at all is made by the "serious", "credible" researchers as to how the ufo phenomenon may have and to a certain extent, has been made public, may well be a driving force as to why certain millionaires will pursue the ufo research direction, at the risk of looking silly. Without looking at that, you can never get a full picture. It might not be real to the serious researcher, but it is to the person who has had those experiences I imagine.

I notice that Alexandra mentions the existence of "hybrids" down here on earth, and that some are actually good folk, and that they are being hunted. Oddly, I have posted a couple of videos where the folk on them appear to suggest they are just that, without actually spelling it out. (At least that is what jumps to mind, might be totally off the mark).Not via the conventional Dr Jacobs conventional (as it can be) method though it seems, as they are here, talking about it. Even more oddly, was that it is overlooked, probably because it is perceived to be more on topic to be talking about Corey's man flu. I scratch my head at that. There are tell tale signs on the vidoes, such as folk saying the Christians have called them demons and freak out, while they are trying to reconcile their PTSD. Why is that? I looked it up and somewhere in the bible it mentions that if human dna is mixed with another species, it is a "Chimera". A big no no in Christian terms, and away from the divine. I wonder where that puts everyone else then, given the more popular notion that we, as a species, have been jiggled with over very long periods of time, including the Christians?

[Bill Ryan]

Right, the C2C videos of Eric Davis and Hal Puthoff didn't stay up for long. :)

Here's the audio of their two hour segment:


http://avalonlibrary.net/Coast_To_Coast_28_Jan_2018_George_Knapp_with_Eric_Davis_and_Hal_Puthoff.mp3

Man alive. :facepalm: There's SO much wrong with this. There really is.

Caveat: I've not yet listened to Hal's part. But Eric Davis, OMG. It's as if he's totally unfamiliar with the huge history of ufology since the late 40s and early 50s. He could be talking about all this back in 1948 — really. (Like: "What are these things? We have to find out.")

His personal UFO sighting (around 25:00) was clearly a classified US craft. He had no idea. And here he is writing papers on advanced propulsion. The US already has all that.

And George Knapp never asked one of the several dozen questions I (and most other researchers with any knowledge of the subject) could easily have posed.

Yet Eric Davis came over as sincere and articulate, talking really fast about a bunch of stuff that really wasn't germane to any of the deeper issues.

There's something wrong with this picture.

I'll post again later when I've listened to Hal.

[Star Tsar]

I couldn't listen to the Marie D. Jones & Larry Flaxman section it just fits too well with the threat agenda all mixed in with a little religious fervor.

[ZoSo925]

Joe Rogan seems to have a very open mind and also very funny. Here is a followup comment and Joe thinks Tom is out of his F-ing mind and crazy.

There is such a big shake-up going on with information and roads leading everywhere to confuse people. Personally I don't like Tom DeLonge or his music. I think Jimmy Page would be the perfect representative for disclosure.


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[Star Tsar]

Latest from Mr Cameron


WhiteHouseUFO

The CIA UFO Confirmation (Roswell Crash & Cadavers)

Published 30th January 2018

Grant with a story which broke last Monday (23rd January) which Grant feels is more important than the NYT story....

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UFO Coverup Live as mentioned above:

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[Bill Ryan]

Right, the C2C videos of Eric Davis and Hal Puthoff didn't stay up for long. :)

Here's the audio of their two hour segment:


http://avalonlibrary.net/Coast_To_Coast_28_Jan_2018_George_Knapp_with_Eric_Davis_and_Hal_Puthoff.mp3

Man alive. :facepalm: There's SO much wrong with this. There really is.

Caveat: I've not yet listened to Hal's part. But Eric Davis, OMG. It's as if he's totally unfamiliar with the huge history of ufology since the late 40s and early 50s. He could be talking about all this back in 1948 — really. (Like: "What are these things? We have to find out.")

His personal UFO sighting (around 25:00) was clearly a classified US craft. He had no idea. And here he is writing papers on advanced propulsion. The US already has all that.

And George Knapp never asked one of the several dozen questions I (and most other researchers with any knowledge of the subject) could easily have posed.

Yet Eric Davis came over as sincere and articulate, talking really fast about a bunch of stuff that really wasn't germane to any of the deeper issues.

There's something wrong with this picture.

I'll post again later when I've listened to Hal.


Well, I listed to Hal. REALLY exasperating. :facepalm: He was far easier to listen to than Eric Davis, and was articulate and interesting (as he always is).

But he too was trying to present a re-invented history, as if this was the first study ever done, and nothing prior had ever been investigated or was known.

That's flat-out not true. And I know that Hal knows that.

The most interesting part was a few minutes before the end of Hal's segment, when George Knapp asked the only good question he did on the whole show... about crash retrievals. Hal wasn't expecting that, and paused for a long time before he started to answer rather stumblingly, and Knapp then cut him off while Hal fudged his response.

For Hal to have ventured into that would be to acknowledge that the US military (and/or private corporations) have craft and bodies, and have had for 70 years. I know Hal knows that, too. 70 years is a LONG time for MANY MANY MANY studies to have been done, costing trillions of dollars.

Not $22 million, starting just a few years ago. :facepalm:

[we-R-one]

I was listening to this the other night and fell asleep, but recorded. Haven't had a chance to re-listen. I remember Hal glossing over people's suspicions of military involvement/deep state, based on the individuals involved, he was so smooth about it. Hey Hal....that includes you, rofl. I'm not surprised as Hal is a product and master of psychological warfare tied to Tavistock Institute. High intelligence suggests an imbalance...meaning, what one gains in IQ, left brain, looses in right brain abilities to make choices of a spiritual nature, imo. O negative blood type maybe? Lack of empathy......I can see the data profile building......it's almost too easy. These guys are so discredited if you know what to look for...the undermining and deception will continue.

[Star Tsar]

Latest from DLDJ!


Dark Journalist

Grant Cameron | UFO CIA Disclosure: Deep State Coverup!

Streamed & Published 2nd February 2018

Through the Deep State UFO Looking Glass with Grant Cameron!

Dark Journalist Daniel Liszt & his Special Guests Forbidden Knowledge TV's Alexandra Bruce & Presidential UFOs Grant Cameron go deep on the Mainstream Media and CIA push to spin UFO Disclosure as a National Security Threat program while covering up the mysterious phenomena!

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[Cidersomerset]

This is interesting as Richard Doty explains his counter intelligence operations,
which may have parallels with what is happening today in some ways. Control
of disclosure , in Richards case hiding secret US planes as UFO's to confuse
the Soviets...


BREAKING: Richard Doty Surprise Call to FADE to BLACK : Unedited : LIVE
FADE TO BLACK Radio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cj_hhQ63lo

Published on 2 Feb 2018

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George interviewed Luis Elizondo and despite what it says below it is not in depth
or new going over previous released material, but maybe of interest its more for
anyone who has not seen the reports yet.

KNAPP REPORTS 1/2/18

PART I ...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIOF0laMsVw&feature=youtu.be

PART II..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inU0kv2sEDw

George Knapp conducted an in-depth interview with Luis Elizondo. Elizondo spent
ten years as head of a secret study of Unidentified Aerial Objects, he was also
instrumental in the release of official UFO videos recorded by military pilots.

AATIP (Advanced Aerial Threat Identification Program), was a Department Of
Defense Program out of the Pentagon tasked with studying the UFO phenomenon.
In this interview, one of the things we learn is that the program still continues to
this day.

The Pentagon study focused, in part, on Skinwalker Ranch.

http://www.hunttheskinwalker.com/all-news/pentagon-ufo-program

[Star Tsar]

Latest from Linda


EarthFiles

https://yt3.ggpht.com/4rqUM2trCz8kjEsorZWcc834L2n-79VAqAH_1_-gc7tZZDLfWFx8DwO_hkCTxHnW0Nu4B5KHyYs=w2120-fcrop64=1,00005a57ffffa5a8-nd-c0xffffffff-rj-k-no

Phenomenon Radio | Alejandro Rojas | Part 1

Published 5th January 2018

A month and a half since the groundbreaking front page of the New York Times that headlined glowing auras and black money the Pentagon's mysterious UFO program, The Times website contained a 34 second jet fighter gun camera infrared video of a UFO doing a rotation without losing altitude off the coast of San Diego California during November 2004 training exercises with the USS Nimitz. It was also referred to as the tic-tac video because the UFO was oblong and white colored like tic-tac candy.

The New York Times stressed that the infrared video was officially released by the Defense Department's advanced aerospace threat identification program also known as AAT IP the front page article states quote “the Defense Department has never before acknowledged the existence of the AAT IP program” close quote. Two days after the New York Times had released the Pentagon's 34 second infrared video on Monday December 18 2017 the Washington Post released a 2 minute and 45 second longer infrared gun camera video identified as gimbal which refers to technology the background information states that this longer more sensitive video. quote “means that the date location and other information have been removed by the originating Authority as part of the release approval process” close quote.

For More Listen On…….

Cuts off @ 41 minutes sorry

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[Star Tsar]

Linda, John & Alejandro in conclusion...

Phenomenon Radio | Alejandro Rojas | Part 2

Published 9th January 2018

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[Star Tsar]

Latest from Mr Cameron


WhiteHouseUFO

Melinda Leslie's Interview With Jim Semivan - VP of Operations For To The Stars Academy (Part One)

Published 11th February 2018

In an exclusive and frank 2+ hour conversation with Jim Semivan and his wife Deborah Stokes, Melinda asked questions about future plans for the TTSA UFO disclosure operations, the New York Times article, Luis Elizondo, the videos, hardware, and documents. In this first of three parts Leslie tells researcher Grant Cameron what she was told.

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Concluding Parts...

Published 13th February 2018

Part two

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Part three

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[Amenjo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhvClGiBB2c

This interview with Luis Elizondo seems to have gone a bit under the radar, released last week but recorded on January 15th.

At an hour long it's the longest interview that Luis has done so far.

Although he side steps quite a bit in the interview, there's still a few things that he clears up in regards to the program and the December release.

Here's the write up for it.


On December 17th 2017, New York Times has published historic article on the front page titled: "Real U.F.O.s? Pentagon Unit Tried to Know". The article described Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program which had a mandate to evaluate UFOs. Luis Elizondo was a former director of that program. In this exclusive interview that I did for Croatian Television, he explains his involvement in the program and what was learned through the years. This is the uncut version of that interview. On the date of this release, this is as far as I am aware, the longest interview with Mr. Elizondo.

During this exclusive interview we covered these subjects:

- Lue's career and his patents.

- The AATIP timeline and the budget.

- Mandate of the program.

- Detection of UFO Phenomena by DOD sensors.

- Witnesses, technical data and credibility factor.

- The USS Nimitz UFO Incident.

- 5 main categories of the UFO phenomena.

- AATIP findings vs Condon Committee conclusions.

- Alleged exotic materials.

- Possibilities of another and more hidden UFO program.

- To The Stars Academy.

... and more.


Love and Truth,


Amenjo

[Star Tsar]

Dolan Dissects Doty & DeLonge!



Fade To Black

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Richard Doty Makes A Surprise Call

Published 2nd February 2018

Tonight, Richard Doty, a retired Special Agent who worked for AFOSI, the United States Air Force Office of Special Investigation who was central in many events in UFO history...including Paul Bennewitz, William 'Bill' Moore and the Aviary...calls in to the show... although this was a surprise, what resulted was a conversation that lasted a full 90 minutes...without commercials... and to Richard's credit, he answered all of the questions that Jimmy asked... and whatever you may think about Richard Doty, an admitted and vetted disinfo agent for the Air Force...he did call in to the show and his answers must be studied...what is the truth and what is not??

Supporting Link: www.jimmychurchradio.com (http://www.jimmychurchradio.com)

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Episode 806 | Richard Dolan Breaksdown Doty & DeLonge

Published 16th February 2018

Tonight, we are going to break down the Richard Doty surprise phone call into Fade to Black on February 1st, 2018… and we will also discuss the recent Tom DeLonge/TTSA ball drop and fumble with their use of an image of a party balloon to raise funds and sell stock in his new company… we are joined in the later half by Steve Mera, live from the UK, who was the researcher on the original 'balloon' UFO pics from 2005 that DeLonge used as a 'real' UFO.

Richard Dolan is among the world’s leading UFO historians. He has written many classics for the field, including UFOs and the National Security State, A.D. After Disclosure, and UFOs for the 21st Century Mind, as well as ongoing booklets for his Richard Dolan Lecture Series. Richard has lectured around the world and has appeared widely on television, including Ancient Aliens and Hangar One.

Currently, he is the writer and host of the series “False Flags,” which appears on Gaia TV, and he is also writing a book on the same subject. He also hosts two radio shows: The Richard Dolan Show on KGRA and The Effed Files, and is the publisher of Richard Dolan Press, which features the work of many leading thinkers exploring alternative realities in our world.

Supporting Link: www.jimmychurchradio.com (http://www.jimmychurchradio.com)

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[norman]

Oh whaw . . . in that Jimmy Church chat with Richard Dolan, Church really exposes how hard he's got it in for Bill Ryan.

He's so fixated that he though he heard something that wasn't there in the chat with Doty at all, and then as Richard put him right about it, he cheerfully spun up a general flagging of Bill's name in asociation with the idea that there are a lot of sneaky operators in the field.

Also, as Richard asked the really sensible question, "why did Doty call at all, what did he get out of it?", Church quickly stopped the train of thought and changed the subject.

Church is so sliippery it's hard to pin him down but I don't trust him.

[Bill Ryan]

Oh whaw . . . in that Jimmy Church chat with Richard Dolan, Church really exposes how hard he's got it in for Bill Ryan.

He's so fixated that he though he heard something that wasn't there in the chat with Doty at all, and then as Richard put him right about it, he cheerfully spun up a general flagging of Bill's name in association with the idea that there are a lot of sneaky operators in the field.



Yes. The interesting bit there is where they’re talking abut The Aviary. That starts at 44:40. Then just after 49:00, Church said that Doty had said that I was part of the Aviary myself.

Of course, Doty didn’t say that at all, and Church had it all wrong. Richard jumped in to correct him quickly and clearly, and Church seemed to accept the correction. It was a small, silly misunderstanding... but, OMG. :facepalm:

[Mike]

Oh whaw . . . in that Jimmy Church chat with Richard Dolan, Church really exposes how hard he's got it in for Bill Ryan.

He's so fixated that he though he heard something that wasn't there in the chat with Doty at all, and then as Richard put him right about it, he cheerfully spun up a general flagging of Bill's name in association with the idea that there are a lot of sneaky operators in the field.



Yes. The interesting bit there is where they’re talking abut The Aviary. That starts at 44:40. Then just after 49:00, Church said that Doty had said that I was part of the Aviary myself.

Of course, Doty didn’t say that at all, and Church had it all wrong. Richard jumped in to correct him quickly and clearly, and Church seemed to accept the correction. It was a small, silly misunderstanding... but, OMG. :facepalm:



Hey Bill, I think Church dropped that in there on purpose, knowing fully well that he was in error....but also knowing it would still plant a seed of doubt in some people's minds.

Prior to that comment Church was discussing the alleged 2 current researchers who Doty claims are compromised. Then he attempted to connect yourself and Kerry to the Aviary. And then, even after Richard firmly corrected him, he said he stood corrected but he "thought that was strange that he (Doty) was reticent to name names and then he mentioned those 2...."

He's subtly trying to make the connection between the 2 compromised researchers and Bill and Kerry. That seems clear to me. Church is a piece of sh!t. I don't trust this man at all. I don't know what his motivations are exactly, but I'm very suspicious of him.

I'm not even wholly convinced that Doty's call was spontaneous. I'm speculating here obviously, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if Church and Doty planned it all. Firstly because he never asked Doty the most obvious question of all ("why are you calling me now?"); second because at one point he tells Richard that he always wanted to interview Doty and had a mental list of questions downloaded in his brain in case that ever happened(paraphrase)..which struck me as a preemptive measure against anyone who might suspect they were in cahoots, or anyone who may have thought that the interview went a little *too* smoothly for an unplanned thing

[Bill Ryan]

Latest from Mr Cameron, talking to Melinda Leslie, who had grabbed an impromptu interview/conversation with Jim Semivan
[...]
In an exclusive and frank 2+ hour conversation with Jim Semivan and his wife Deborah Stokes, Melinda asked questions about future plans for the TTSA UFO disclosure operations, the New York Times article, Luis Elizondo, the videos, hardware, and documents. In this first of three parts Leslie tells researcher Grant Cameron what she was told.


Dreadful.

What I learned:


To The Stars Academy should kindly donate $50 from their current $2,420.643 stash of funds to Grant Cameron for a couple of new microphones that work. And maybe another $15 for a pocket dictaphone for backup audio.



Grant Cameron, with all his media experience, should realize that many people want to LISTEN to the interview, and not have their eyes glued to the screen for text-insert no-audio questions.



Melinda Leslie (bless her :bearhug: ) was way too starstruck. Jim Semivan is just a guy who once had an interesting job. He's not a celebrity. The celebritization of all this is part of the problem.

Again, bless her.... she completely omitted to challenge Semivan with a bunch of the really important issues. They're dead easy to think of. Here are just a few:


Crash retrievals since 1947?
A live ET (and maybe many others) that has been helping the black projects guys with their work?
S4 and Bob Lazar?
The Secret Space Program?
The Phoenix Lights? (Do military videos exist of those?)
Ben Rich's statements over 25 years ago that we can now take ET home?
If they now have $2 million, where's the rest of the trillion dollars going to come from so they can actually build something that works?
How come the publicized videos were so very poor... compared with what the agencies REALLY have?

FAIL.

Again, bless Melinda for her enthusiasm (and naivete) ... but we have to do better than this.

And if Semivan doesn't know this himself, he shouldn't be the VP of anything.

[norman]

What I see opening up here is a wider and wider gap between us old schoolers and the target audiences. And here's the worst part, they WANT that gap to open up as wide as possible. The more we sound strange to these youngsters coming up throught he ruined education system, the better. One of the objectives in the background is to stop the kiddies from even listening to us any more. The more our buttons are pushed by the insults to our intelligence, the more they gradually get what they want. They want to shuffle us oldies off and out of the picture.


On a slightly different tack. Richard Dolan has said a couple of times to my knowledge that he cannot see any possible reason for John Podesta and Hillary Clinton wanting to talka bout UAPs ( UFOs ) in the run up to the elction other than to try to get the "UFO" vote.

I think Richard is missing something very important, but, because there seems to not be a single conspiratorial bone in his body, he's missing the massive reason why they wanted to talk about that stuff.

There was a PLAN !

This fake or semi disclosure thing was already in the plans, along with a whole lot of other stuff. They had a massive rollout of a pre formed operation all ready to go. Hillary and Podesta probably weren't at the top of the tree with the UAP stuff but they had their parts to play in it and were ticking the boxes on the countdown list.

Oh dear, Hillary didn't win.

So what did they do ?... They had a think about it for a while and decided the best thing to do was carry on regardless with most of the stuff in the can. That would include the fake disclosure and certainly the war on independent media, if perhaps not going as far as rounding people up.

Yes there were surely a few votes in talking about UAPs, but I don't think that was the point of it. It was supposed to set the way for a big push on trying to take control of the narrative and jump that gap into a fake "post disclosure" world.


If Hillary was in the Whitehouse, they would be making a lot more of the division between us old schoolers and the appallingly poorly mind developed youngsters. They never had any intention of satisfying the standards we have been aiming for for 6 decades. No, this sloppiness is all part of the plan. It spreads us all out over a wider area. Exactly what they like best when they want to divide and corral or kettle us in separate groups to be handled in increasingly separate ways.

[ZoSo925]

Jimmy Church is a total snake in the grass. There was some other Tom Delonge thing going on and Jimmy Church was bragging and taking credit for a fake picture or something.

I did not fully get to read up on that story yet