Tom DeLonge, TTSA and 'Sekret Machines': Is Disclosure Going Mainstream?

[Bill Ryan]

The Pentagon Corrects Record on “Secret UFO Program”
12/10/19
By John Greenewald, Jr. – The Black Vault – Originally Published December 6, 2019
https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/the-pentagon-corrects-record-on-secret-ufo-program/

"The Pentagon has recently opened up to The Black Vault about the rumored “secret UFO Program,” known as the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program or AATIP.
[...]
Claiming they want to correct the record and clear up some inaccuracies, the Pentagon now says AATIP was not a UFO or UAP program.Thanks! I copied your original post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89951-Tom-DeLonge-and-Sekret-Machines-Is-Disclosure-Going-Mainstream&p=1314576#post1314576) to this thread, so now it's posted twice (or three times, if you include your note (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1326990&viewfull=1#post1326990) on my personal Q&A thread) — and deservedly so, too.

I now expect all hell to break loose about this. It might get really interesting.

[onawah]

Also related: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102135-Dark-Journalist-Joseph-Farrell-UFO-X-Factor-Black-Budget-Secret-Space-Network-16-March-2018&p=1326933&viewfull=1#post1326933

The Pentagon Corrects Record on “Secret UFO Program”
12/10/19
By John Greenewald, Jr. – The Black Vault – Originally Published December 6, 2019
https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/the-pentagon-corrects-record-on-secret-ufo-program/

"The Pentagon has recently opened up to The Black Vault about the rumored “secret UFO Program,” known as the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program or AATIP.
[...]
Claiming they want to correct the record and clear up some inaccuracies, the Pentagon now says AATIP was not a UFO or UAP program.Thanks! I copied your original post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89951-Tom-DeLonge-and-Sekret-Machines-Is-Disclosure-Going-Mainstream&p=1314576#post1314576) to this thread, so now it's posted twice (or three times, if you include your note (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1326990&viewfull=1#post1326990) on my personal Q&A thread) — and deservedly so, too.

I now expect all hell to break loose about this. It might get really interesting.

[Chester]

I had been away from "UFO/ET" ever since I allowed myself to be ruined by the Ruiner (late 2015)... and I only dove back in three months ago. So I didn't have a good handle on TTSA and didn't have time to read dozens of pages of materials like in this thread.

I just came upon this 1.5 hour podcast and thought I would share it because, to me, the podcaster, David Logan, does a good job (and its not a monitized podcast).

Here's the link - https://www.spreaker.com/user/11687606/episode-1-done-fix

[validatedmystery]

As you may already be aware of, Mr. Lambright has got a response on his FOIA request to the Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI) for records relating to the USS Nimitz carrier "Tic Tac" encounter(s). Lambright´s friend and research collegaue, Paul Dean, reports on the response Lambright got: http://ufos-documenting-the-evidence.blogspot.com/2020/01/office-of-naval-intelligence-oni-admits.html
As Paul Dean remarks in his blog post, it is quite remarkable how much "extra" information the FOIA response contains: TOP SECRET "briefing slides", a SECRET video, and the name of original classification authority. Why? Is the US Navy more forth coming with information than a faction inside the Pentagon? Why did spokesperson Susan Gough suddenly change her statements about AATIP and its objectives, mission? Who is writing Gough´s script?

[validatedmystery]

Chris Lambright's 22 page document as an embedded PDF:

http://projectavalon.net/Chris_Lambright_Questions_on_BAASS_Nimitz_TTSA.pdf

http://projectavalon.net/Chris_Lambright_Questions_on_BAASS_Nimitz_TTSA.pdf

I wrote a post/article on my blog about my thoughts on Mr. Lambright´s paper. I hope it is ok that I promote my own material in here. If not, just remove this reply. Here is the link to my thoughts on Lambright´s paper:

https://validatedmystery.blogspot.com/2019/12/odd-incongruities-in-uss-nimitz-2004.html





Mod note from Bill: Many thanks, and yes, that's totally fine.
:thumbsup:

[validatedmystery]

Thank you, Bill Ryan! :)

[Chester]

Not sure what to make of this -

https://www.reddit.com/r/ufo/comments/exbtoc/the_ttsa_and_project_serpo_connection/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

The TTSA and Project Serpo Connection

Hi all,

I've been ruminating on this for a while after stumbling across this Project Serpo stuff and decided it's worth talking about. Not because the concept of the an alien exchange program is cool but because there are an eerie amount of science mentioned that directly relates to what TTSA has been working on or talking about. Project Serpo contains the only reference to bismuth magnesium metamaterial waveguides on the internet apart from TTSA and Linda Molton Howe talking about them. In quotes is an excerpt from Project Serpo, written over 12 years ago (taken from http://www.serpo.org/release25.php) :

[Bill Ryan]

Not sure what to make of this -

https://www.reddit.com/r/ufo/comments/exbtoc/the_ttsa_and_project_serpo_connection/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

The TTSA and Project Serpo Connection

Hi all,

I've been ruminating on this for a while after stumbling across this Project Serpo stuff and decided it's worth talking about. Not because the concept of the an alien exchange program is cool but because there are an eerie amount of science mentioned that directly relates to what TTSA has been working on or talking about. Project Serpo contains the only reference to bismuth magnesium metamaterial waveguides on the internet apart from TTSA and Linda Molton Howe talking about them. In quotes is an excerpt from Project Serpo, written over 12 years ago (taken from http://www.serpo.org/release25.php) :

Very interesting, yes! That release was sent to Victor Martinez directly (he clearly edited it a little), after I'd baled out of the project personally at the end of 2006.

It's either gobbledygook, or written by someone with PhD-level Material Science and Electronics — who knows exactly what the heck they're talking about.

[Chester]

https://twitter.com/Deepneuron/status/1224048341694025728

Deep Prasad in his twitter feed writes:

Project Serpo is not some mere hoax cooked up by Richard Doty. It contains applied concepts from different fields of advanced physics that are not possible to do without being proficient in those fields. He had help. A ton of it.

read the next several tweets

Deep is not a "TTSA is an OP" adherent... he is agnostic/inquisitive.

[Chester]

I tried to get this in the above post but was too slow -

Deep posted 13 Tweets yesterday summarizing his Reddit post's main point/question - starting here

https://twitter.com/Deepneuron/status/1223706383696052224

[Chester]

This has just gotten very interesting... Doty replied -

https://twitter.com/Deepneuron/status/1224160203991474176?s=19

Looks more and more like Deep isn't agnostic anymore with regards to Serpo and Doty...

I recall Bill always maintained there was definitely "something" to the Serpo affair. I know the threads are here and I can look, but I am shooting from the hip with regards to what my memory holds.

[mountain_jim]

There is now a new thread for this revisiting of Serpo by Deep Prasad, but Sammy I really appreciated this being brought to my attention earlier here.

And it really does deserve its own thread in my view.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109856-The-TTSA-and-Project-Serpo-Connection&p=1334296&viewfull=1#post1334296

[Bill Ryan]

From Richard Dolan a few days ago. The all-embracing title is UAP Crash Retrievals: Public Statements from TTSA Members — and it's an all-embracing video, all about anything TTSA.

One VERY interesting reference was this May 2019 interview by Eric Davis with Alejandro Rojas, and the long link for the transcript (which was given onscreen) is


http://openminds.tv/dr-eric-davis-investigating-and-experiencing-the-paranormal-interview-transcript/42351

The audio itself is here:


http://blogtalkradio.com/ufo_radio/2019/04/30/dr-eric-davis-investigating-and-experiencing-the-paranormal.mp3

And the very important June 2018 presentation that Hal Puthoff did on Metamaterials is here.


http://avalonlibrary.net/Dr_Hal_Puthoff_on_Metamaterials_8_June_2018.mp4



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke5BzdGq8mE

[Richter]

Disclosure will only take place when contact is imminent ... Period!

[norman]

Here's a tid-bit about Tom Delonge I didn't know or consider before. In true Dave McGowan style, he has the right parents to be doing what he's doing.

This whole podcast is a sparky listen but I'll try to get it to start just before Delonge comes up as the topic. If that fails, just go to around the 26-27 minute point.

https://youtu.be/I9USRl9HkzE?t=1604

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[Did You See Them]

Good segment. Thanks
Yes TTSA do push the "It will give us Free Energy" aspect waaay more than the what does it say about who we are and our place in the universe.

[Star Tsar]

This should be interesting...


Hidden Truth Show With Jim Breslo

Dr. Jack Sarfatti | I Know How Tic Tacs Work, The US Does Not!

Published 9th March 2020

Dr Sarfatti is a theoretical physicist and a world-renowned expert in quantum physics. He co-wrote the book Space-Time and Beyond. He claims to have scientific formulas making the production of these craft possible. He is certain, however, that what was seen by Navy personnel is not U.S. craft. He has a very unusual theory as to what they are.

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[Chester]

[B]Postscript - Harold Puthoff, PhD: DOD Unidentified Aerial Phenomena


PS Postscript - Harold Puthoff, PhD

DOD Unidentified Aerial Phenomena:
The Back Story, The Forward Story

It has been widely believed that the government terminated investigation of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) in December 1969 with the closing of Project Blue Book as recommended by the Condon Committee. However, as recently revealed in the New York Times and other major media (December 2017), such is not the case.

As a contractor and Senior Advisor to this program Harold Puthoff, PhD will discuss various aspects of general interest about the program as well as additional initiatives he is now involved with that are being pursued in the public sector to seek answers and inform the public.

Dr. Harold (Hal) Puthoff is Director of the Institute for Advanced Studies at Austin. His current research interests range from theoretical studies concerning gravitation and quantum zero-point-energy effects, to laboratory studies of innovative approaches for energy generation and space propulsion.

For more information: https://earthtech.org/

Since the 1990's The Arlington Institute has been sponsoring provocative speakers in this series that has become Berkeley Springs Transition Talks.

Learn more at http://www.transitiontalks.org.
Producer: John L. Petersen
johnp@arlingtoninstitute.org

DISCLAIMER:
This program is presented by John Petersen who is wholly responsible for the content. The opinions expressed do not reflect the views of the Morgan Arts Council, Inc., the Digital Media Center for Community Engagement, Comcast NBC Universal or any governmental entities that may provide funding support to these organizations. None other than the program host are accountable for any of the material presented.

Postscript is a production of the Digital Media Center for Community Engagement. Copyright 2020 Morgan Arts Council.

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[full disclosure by Sam - I own 200 shares of TTSA]

[Iancorgi]

https://twitter.com/dulhunty/status/1240874626911072256

[onawah]

Just starting to listen to this now, jumped to the middle and it appears Sarfatti thinks the Tic Tacs are UAPs from our future, if I'm getting this right...He claims that at the age of 13 in Brooklyn, 1953 he received phone calls providing mathematical and scientific information from a source that identified itself as an AI computer onboard an ET craft, which he accepted, but at one point he freaked out and refused the offer to be "beamed aboard". Too zany a story to be made up, I'd say. This guy does not come off as being your typical scientist, to say the least, but he's not unconvincing. He thinks he will be able to persuade Trump to help him get funding to develop the technology from the future.


This should be interesting...


Hidden Truth Show With Jim Breslo

Dr. Jack Sarfatti | I Know How Tic Tacs Work, The US Does Not!

Published 9th March 2020

Dr Sarfatti is a theoretical physicist and a world-renowned expert in quantum physics. He co-wrote the book Space-Time and Beyond. He claims to have scientific formulas making the production of these craft possible. He is certain, however, that what was seen by Navy personnel is not U.S. craft. He has a very unusual theory as to what they are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHGYprFP9qQ


In the comment section on the youtube page above, Sarfatti referenced this video:
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[Parsi-X]

Interesting video on tic-tac being man made!
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[Star Tsar]

Latest from Mr Greenwald on this matter...


The Black Vault

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Why The OFFICIAL Release Of Navy UFO Videos Actually Means Something

Published 7th May 2019

Did you see the U.S. Navy OFFICIALLY released three UFO videos? Haven't we been down this road before? And most importantly, why does that even matter?

Join John as he digs in to explain how the legal process unfolded, and what likely paved the way for those videos to be released within an official DOD press release.

Read all about it here: https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/navy-officially-releases-ufo-uap-videos-calls-them-historical/

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[Star Tsar]

Latest from TTSA


TTSA Talks

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The 2021 Intelligence Authorization Act Request For A UAP Task Force

Published 1st July 2020

In this episode of TTSA Talks, Tom DeLonge, Chris Mellon and Luis Elizondo engage in a conversation about The Intelligence Authorization Act for 2021 that the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.

One can listen here: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/ep-4-2021-intelligence-authorization-act-request-for/id1517910497?i=1000481781381

[Star Tsar]

Will share this here...


Fade To Black Radio

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Alejandro Rojas | Open Mind To TTSA?

Recorded 7th & Streamed 8th September 2020

In this episode, our guest is Alejandro Rojas. We are going to take the deep dive into what may make TTSA one of the most important contributors to Disclosure.

Alejandro is Director of Operations for Open Minds Production, the host for Open Minds UFO Radio, editor and contributing writer for OpenMinds.tv, and emcee for the International UFO Congress. The 'Congress' is happening this week... and it, like everything else, has been forced into a virtual format.

Alejandro was also the official spokesperson for the Mutual UFO Network as the Director of Public Education. As a UFO/Paranormal researcher and journalist, Alejandro has spent many hours in the field investigating anomalous phenomena up close and personal. Alejandro has been interviewed by media organizations around the world, including the largest cable and network news agencies with regular appearances on Coast to Coast AM and FADE to BLACk. He has been featured on the Travel Channel, Syfy, National Geographic, and E!.

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[Star Tsar]

Latest from Mr Elizondo...


RadioAmericaTV

Luis Elizondo: Have UFOs Interfered With Military Assets?

Published 7th September 2020

In another special on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, Sara speaks with Luis Elizando, who charged the Pentagon's investigation into UFOs. This time, Elizando goes into how UFOs may have made contact and even interfered with military assets. He also answers to whether alleged UFO abductions have ever happened.

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[ExomatrixTV]

'People need to open their minds!' – Tom DeLonge (https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/sep/15/star-of-bethlehem-spaceship-tom-delonges-new-career-ufo-expert-blink-182) (Freemason) on his new career as a UFO expert

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[Kryztian]

I looks like there may have been a meltdown at TTSA and Luis Elizondo, Chris Mellon and Steve Justice have left:


George Knapp:

What’s going on with TTSA? There’s these rumors floating around that an announcement is coming in January that’s going to shake things up a bit. What, if anything, can you say about it?

Lue Elizondo:

Well, I can’t speak for TTSA. You’d have to go through TTSA channels to ask them about TTSA and I’ll tell you from my perspective I love my friends at TTSA. They are incredible human beings, but I also have to say my mission has always been very clear, George, and that was to push disclosure forward. That’s it. I think after three years, you know, I can look back and I think we’ve achieved much of what we’ve set out to do. TTSA, it’s no secret, also focuses on it’s entertainment division and, you know, let’s face it, guys like Chris Mellon and Steve Justice and myself, we’re not entertainers. We’re not. So, very much like the History Channel project, we have accomplished our mission. Mission success. We have done more in three years collectively than anybody I think really expected us to achieve. Now it’s time I think we shift from…you know it’s like a car, right? You know I speak in car talk, I’m kind of a gearhead, so I think the time has come from the proverbial first gear to now second gear. We have enough momentum, enough enertia where we can shift gears and continue moving forward and to do that guys like me are looking at new and exciting ways to expand that conversation to an even larger audience while still staying true to our core mission of disclosure.

George Knapp:

I think I understand what you said there.

from: https://silvarecord.com/2020/12/21/lue-elizondo-speaks-to-george-knapp-about-ttsa/

[Bill Ryan]

I looks like there may have been a meltdown at TTSA and Luis Elizondo, Chris Mellon and Steve Justice have left:


George Knapp:

What’s going on with TTSA? There’s these rumors floating around that an announcement is coming in January that’s going to shake things up a bit. What, if anything, can you say about it?

Lue Elizondo:

Well, I can’t speak for TTSA. You’d have to go through TTSA channels to ask them about TTSA and I’ll tell you from my perspective I love my friends at TTSA. They are incredible human beings, but I also have to say my mission has always been very clear, George, and that was to push disclosure forward. That’s it. I think after three years, you know, I can look back and I think we’ve achieved much of what we’ve set out to do. TTSA, it’s no secret, also focuses on it’s entertainment division and, you know, let’s face it, guys like Chris Mellon and Steve Justice and myself, we’re not entertainers. We’re not. So, very much like the History Channel project, we have accomplished our mission. Mission success. We have done more in three years collectively than anybody I think really expected us to achieve. Now it’s time I think we shift from…you know it’s like a car, right? You know I speak in car talk, I’m kind of a gearhead, so I think the time has come from the proverbial first gear to now second gear. We have enough momentum, enough enertia where we can shift gears and continue moving forward and to do that guys like me are looking at new and exciting ways to expand that conversation to an even larger audience while still staying true to our core mission of disclosure.

George Knapp:

I think I understand what you said there.from: https://silvarecord.com/2020/12/21/lue-elizondo-speaks-to-george-knapp-about-ttsa/~~~

Here's the 20 December 2020 Coast to Coast show, with Luis Elizondo talking to George Knapp.


Hour 1
https://avalonlibrary.net/Coast_to_Coast_AM_audio/Coast%20to%20Coast%20AM%20with%20George%20Knapp%20-%20Luis%20Elizondo%20-%20Dec%2020%202020%20-%20Hour%201.mp3
Hour 2
https://avalonlibrary.net/Coast_to_Coast_AM_audio/Coast%20to%20Coast%20AM%20with%20George%20Knapp%20-%20Luis%20Elizondo%20-%20Dec%2020%202020%20-%20Hour%202.mp3

[Waldo]

US Navy Patent Describes EM Drive For "Flying Triangle" Craft

There is potential for conspiracy gold in a 2018 patent filed by aerospace engineer Dr. Salvatore Cezar Pais, who works for the Naval Air Warfare Center Aircraft Division, a research organization within the Navy that specializes in electromagnetic drives and superconductors.

The patent (US10144532B2) describes "a craft using an inertial mass reduction device comprises of an inner resonant cavity wall, an outer resonant cavity, and microwave emitters. The electrically charged outer resonant cavity wall and the electrically insulated inner resonant cavity wall form a resonant cavity. The microwave emitters create high-frequency electromagnetic waves throughout the resonant cavity causing the resonant cavity to vibrate in an accelerated mode and create a local polarized vacuum outside the outer resonant cavity wall."

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https://cms.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/2020-12-15_12-15-12.png?itok=ElaCl8WM

In August of 2019, The Drive filed Freedom of Information Act requests with the Navy to shed more light on the patent. While it's still unknown if those requests have been answered, further investigation through the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office's (USPTO) Public Patent Application Information Retrieval database revealed that superconductors and the electromagnetic field generator, may in fact, already be in operation in some manner.

If the technologies described in the patent are already operational, does this mean the Navy is building UFOs?

https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/us-navy-patent-describes-em-drive-flying-triangle-craft?utm_campaign=&utm_content=Zerohedge%3A+The+Durden+Dispatch&utm_medium=email&utm_source=zh_newsletter

[Star Tsar]

Latest on TTSA from UFONNS


UFO News Network Sunday

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UFO News Update

Published 27th December 2020

Frank and Chant discuss the departures of Luis Elizondo, Chris Mellon and Steve Justice from the To The Stars Academy and the role the Tony Bragalia/UFONN expose on the business practices of TTSA new business director Chris Mizer may have played in the timing of it, former CIA director John Brennan’s recent comments on UFOs and a whole lot more.

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As mentioned courtesy of The Black Vault

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[christian]

Coast To Coast AM - March 27, 2016 Government UFO Revelations

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vkQHSO-T9hk

Yes, that's what I uploaded, and was the interview I was referring to.

That interview with Tom DeLonge and George Knapp seems to be gone almost everywhere. It's not on YT, Bitchute, the official Coast to Coast library (https://www.coasttocoastam.com/guests/all-categories/2016/), nor in the Avalon library, at least not under the link (http://avalonlibrary.net/Coast_to_Coast_Tom_DeLonge_Mar_27_2016_all_4_hours.zip) mentioned in this thread. But it's still here (https://rumble.com/v3n3vwn-tom-delonge-on-coast-2-coast-with-george-knapp-2016-full-interview-ufos-ufo.html) on Rumble.

Here are some of Tom DeLonge's statements from the interview that have been referenced earlier in this thread:


I think people need to understand that we're in a transition here with this topic and that some really big things are about to happen. […]

You have an issue that's going to tackle cosmology and religion, scientific breakthroughs that will seem like magic to people, relationships with countries that we're not supposed to have relationships with, defense systems that we've been building secretly with enormous amounts of money for a very long period of time, where people, if they knew about it, would probably be in an uproar, until they knew the reasons why […].

The more that I found out about this stuff, and once they started giving me the information, I realized that all these young people are gonna look at these areas of our government and say, "You guys are heroes. You guys are doing heroic stuff, incredible stuff, and no one knows about it, and you're letting all these weirdos on the internet define you and say it's all a big conspiracy. It's a big bad secret government, you know, keeping secrets cause they're better than us or we can't handle the truth or they're doing it for money and to be in control of the world." Not a thing could be further from the truth. Once you understand why they're keeping their efforts secret and what they've been doing, you will realize that they need to be empowered and they need to be given every bit of resource that they could possibly need for what they're doing. And I'm excited to tell that part of the story, I'm excited for people to understand that these are good people doing important work […].

I'm revisiting the information about Tom DeLonge and TTSA to contextualize subsequent developments such as the 2017 articles in the NYT and the Washington Post and the continued media presence of Luiz Elizondo, who also seems to put out a narrative that's very similar to that of DeLonge, essentially whitewashing the role of the government and the military.

Here, Elizondo talks on The Daily Show in September 2024:

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Here is some of what Elizondo says in the interview:


The US government, for many decades, has been investing a lot of taxpayer money looking into this topic here. And it turns out there are absoletely technologies that are coming into our controlled US airspace over our sensitive military installations, may have the ability to interfere with our nuclear equities, and it's real. And not only are pilots picking it up and reporting it, also we've got an electro-optical data, like gun camera footage, FLIR footage, and also radar data. And it's not just here. It looks like it's pretty pervasive all over the world now. […]

The fine men and women of the Pentagon and the US government do incredible work. And most of the time, we are a lot better off as a society because of their professionalism. Unfortunately, in this particular case, the bureaucracy was the problem. We continued to try to get alarm bells up to the secretary of defense over and over again, but there was this layer of these proverbial Praetorian guards that didn't want to tell the secretary of defense that we were spending taxpayer money looking into these things, and, by the way, it turns out they're real. […]

When we look at this issue here, this has been going on for decades. This has been going on since the late 1940s. […] There was a crash [at Roswell, New Mexico, in 1947]. It was a vehicle that had broken into two pieces, and it was recovered by the US government, taken to a secure military installation, and then from there it went out to certain locations. […]

I think what people need to know right now, the US government is taking this topic very seriously. There's several pieces of legislation that are going through Congress right now. There are members in both the House and the Senate that have been briefed by whistleblowers on this topic, people who have been part of certain efforts, UAP efforts, in the past. […] The idea is to open the door for whistleblowers to come out and be able to have a protected conversation with Congress, so Congress can then have a conversation with the American people. […] This is a bipartisan issue. […]

We've spent many decades backing ourselves into a corner on this conversation. And the government has said publicly what its position is. Now it's in a situation where it's having to unwind that conversation and say, "Look, folks, we haven't always been completely forthcoming and truthful with you." And that's a hard conversation to have. […]

In the last seven years, I think we've come further on this conversation than we have in the last seventy. There are elements now in the government that want this conversation to occur. They want the American people to know, "Look, this is the worst kept secret at this point, probably in the US government." I mean, it's pathetic. The fact that so many people now in our militaries, our intelligence communities, have even in some cases come up close and personal with these things.

People of Avalon, what are your opinions on how this all unfolded over the last years with TTSA, DeLonge, and Elizondo?

[Helvetic]

See, that's the big secret they don't want to tell, or don't know themselves. Eisenhower was the first President to know this.

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The quote from James C. Horak underlines this very nicely:

"If time travel is possible, will be possible, has ever been possible it is with us now." - James C. Horak