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regnak
11th April 2016, 14:21
From http://walter-russell.com/documents/measure.html

I am a poor study of the science but I am a fan :blushing:

The temperature of the sun is reported as being about 6000ēC, however if universal mathematics is correct, this is a gross underestimation. This error arises because science assumes that the manifestation of a condition with all its associated properties here on Earth is the SAME universally. No allowance is made for the compression potential vortices at the sun, or the expanding potential vortices of cold dark space, and how motion reacts to being located in each of these two extreme and opposite environments.

It you half the Earths distance from the sun from 93,000,000 miles to 45,000,000 miles you decrease the volume of the Earth by 1/8th. If this process is continued to the suns surface we have to half the Earths distance from the sun, 27 times.

Taking 25ēC as the standard temperature of the Earth, the sun's surface temperature is 3.3 billionēC. (25 x 2^27)

In the opposite direction we have to accept that temperatures can fall well below our notion of absolute zero. Zero K = -273ēC.

If the Earth was moved to double its current distance from the sun to 180,000,000 miles, its volume would expand 8 times, and its surface temperature would be about 298/8 = 37K or -236ēC.

If the Earth were moved to Jupiter's location, the Earth's surface temperature would reduce to 1.8K or -271ēC. We would cross the absolute zero border as we moved to about 600,000,000 miles and Saturn is 911,000,000 miles from the sun. In Saturn's orbit the temperatures reach -140,000K.

TargeT
11th April 2016, 14:39
temps at the "surface" of the sun are guessed to be around 6,000c... tempts in the corona are up in the 2,000,000c range so there isn't a high likely hood of anything cold reaching the surface of the sun through the corona.


as for your maths... I'm not really sure what you are getting at; if you start with a statement like "This error arises because science assumes that the manifestation of a condition with all its associated properties here on Earth is the SAME universally" needs a bit more expansion I think.. like "which" condition?

Kumonitori
11th April 2016, 14:41
Excerpt from Living Energies, Callum coats on Viktor Schauberger's works (p.78)

--Viktor considered the Sun to be a cold, dark body, expressing this view in the introductory remarks to "Questions for Science" in his book Our Senseless Toil published in 1934, in which he states:

Since the very beginning of time the Sun has stood above everything, staring down in icy silence at the frenzied activities of humankind, who regard it as a fiery orb. How could it be otherwise, such is their direct mental approach towards life! The closer we approach this source of light and heat, the colder and darker its face will become. The nearer we are to it, the brighter the stars will be and as its light diminishes, heat, atmosphere, water and life will also disappear.

regnak
11th April 2016, 15:20
TargeT truthfully I do not complete understand ( working on it ) all of Walter Russell writings :blushing:
above is a quote from the teaching of Walter Russell in which he says that modern science is wrong he wrote his books in 1920's

Sun is cold dark
Cold Electrifies
Heat Contracts
Each Element can become every other Element if you create the right conditions for it .
Gravity is temperature density and mass
working in tune with nature rather than against it:silent:

Silo
11th April 2016, 15:35
Here's a link from Ben Davidson's group and their conference in Phoenix last year.

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http://ptep-online.com/index_files/2007/PP-08-12.PDF

http://www.ptep-online.com/index_files/2007/PP-08-12.PDF

Bill Ryan
11th April 2016, 15:44
TargeT truthfully I do not complete understand ( working on it ) all of Walter Russell writings


You can forgive yourself for that. That's because his writings aren't understandable. :)

He's a musician, not an astrophysicist (of any kind). He has zero clue (or maybe absolute zero clue!) what he's talking about.

My sincere advice: don't post things as facts that you don't understand (as if somehow everything you crash into on the internet is for real, because it's not). It helps no-one. Neither does this thread, unless there's good science in there which people can actually understand. (@ Silo — thanks :) )

regnak
11th April 2016, 15:54
Walter Russell was for couple weeks in a coma and he says God taught him the true science of the future . I believe he is for real do I understand everything he wrote no . Walter Russell explanation of gravity makes sense to me anyway but
I am no science expert .

Is Walter Russell worthy of discussion I say yes :facepalm: