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MorningSong
7th December 2010, 21:11
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/ted-turner-urges-global-one-child-policy-to-save-planet/article1825977/


Climate change and population control can make for a politically explosive mix, as media mogul Ted Turner demonstrated Sunday when he urged world leaders to institute a global one-child policy to save the Earth’s environment.

Mr. Turner spoke at a luncheon where economist Brian O’Neill from the U.S.’s National Center for Atmospheric Research unveiled his study on the impact of demographic trends on future greenhouse gas emission, a little-discussed subject given its political sensitivity.

Mr. O’Neill’s study concluded that a rapidly rising global population is contributing to an acceleration of emission growth, and that widespread availability of family planning could reduce the amount of emissions reductions required in 2050 by as much as 30 per cent.

Mr. O’Neill acknowledged that discussion of climate change and population is a political minefield. The Roman Catholic Church has condemned any such connection, while developing countries resist rich-world prescriptions that they should limit their populations.

The global population is now close to seven billion people, and is expected to rise to 10 billion by 2050, with 80 per cent of that growth coming in developing countries.

Mr. Turner – a long-time advocate of population control – said the environmental stress on the Earth requires radical solutions, suggesting countries should follow China’s lead in instituting a one-child policy to reduce global population over time. He added that fertility rights could be sold so that poor people could profit from their decision not to reproduce.

“If we’re going to be here [as a species] 5,000 years from now, we’re not going to do it with seven billion people,” Mr. Turner said.

Former Irish president Mary Robinson warned that radical prescriptions for population control would backfire, ensuring that the subject will remain off the agenda of international climate talks.

“If we do it the wrong way, we can divide the world,” Ms. Robinson said. “A lot of people in the climate world could communicate this very badly.”

China boasts that its controversial one-child policy has helped limit emissions growth in that rapidly industrializing country. At the Copenhagen climate summit last year, national planning official Zhao Baige said Chinese population policy has resulted in 400 million fewer births since 1979, with a population that now stands at 1.3 billion. The lower birth rate converts to a reduction of 1.8 billion tons of carbon dioxide emissions per year, Ms. Zhao said.

But critics contend it has not only interfered with reproductive choice, but contributed to high levels of female infanticide and abortions.

For his part, Mr. O’Neill said he was not advocating any particular policy, although he noted that global surveys suggest there is a vast, unmet demand for family planning, and just making contraception universally available on a voluntary basis would drive down the birth rate.

witchy1
7th December 2010, 21:26
Isnt he the one who is tagged with the funding and erection of the Georgia Stones???????

MorningSong
7th December 2010, 21:55
Yeah, that seems to ring a bell... he certainly seems to be a "them".

Martin
7th December 2010, 22:02
Yeah right, the problem of humanity is having more than one child per family. Good grief!

MfG


Martin

Dale
7th December 2010, 22:18
This particular quote from the article frightens me the most:


He added that fertility rights could be sold so that poor people could profit from their decision not to reproduce.

What this really means is "those with undesirable traits, leading them to live impoverished lives, should be bought out to stop reproducing."

As a science-minded individual, I feel that we, as a collective, ought to carefully manage our numbers, as well as our resources; though I feel this desire to do so needs to come from within, not from the outside.

Snowbird
8th December 2010, 13:12
This particular quote from the article frightens me the most:



What this really means is "those with undesirable traits, leading them to live impoverished lives, should be bought out to stop reproducing."

As a science-minded individual, I feel that we, as a collective, ought to carefully manage our numbers, as well as our resources; though I feel this desire to do so needs to come from within, not from the outside.

We as a global society, have been conditioned to turn a blind eye and deaf ear away from any talk of the easing of our population. This is not a subject that anyone wants to discuss, but discuss it we must.

We within, should be making sound choices and decisions as to helping our Mother Earth as the majority daily take from her.

How do we reach those who are counseled from the pulpit that there should never be any discussion or practice concerning easing the population? They refuse to listen. They refuse to consider.

What a sad day it will be when people are forced like China, to limit their families. Its coming.

bluestflame
8th December 2010, 13:20
the whole thing reinforces the perception that the ones without money have no rights ,

Zook
8th December 2010, 13:26
Good morning Witches, the Earth says hello!


Isnt he the one who is tagged with the funding and erection of the Georgia Stones???????

How many children has Ted Turner sired? Maybe we should ask him which one he wants to keep?

:typing:

bluestflame
8th December 2010, 13:31
wonder what's the prospective policy on twins triplets and other multiple births ...

they just don't want to share thier wealth accumulated through the efforts of others

Martin
8th December 2010, 13:31
How many children has Ted Turner sired? Maybe we should ask him which one he wants to keep?

:typing:


He probably would just buy co2 cerfiticats worth a human life span of producing this deadly killergas. For mother earth!


wonder what's the prospective policy on twins triplets and other multiple births ...

they just don't want to share thier wealth accumulated through the efforts of others

Well I guess in the world of Ted people would not be able to get more than one child. prenatal diagnostics would probably be in place to check and regulate such things. What a wonderful world this would be! :rolleyes:

MfG

Martin

Ki's
8th December 2010, 17:14
well, it looks like ole Ted has had 5 children...
Can we say hypocrite?

Banshee
8th December 2010, 17:24
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Steven
8th December 2010, 19:44
Another rich guy, sunk from bottom to top into media's corporation, who claims the poors of the world are too many and should make a huge sacrifice, AGAIN! Because hey! Ultimatly, over-population brainwashers are pinpointing Asia, Africa and Latin America indirectly, they have the largest famillies!

And nothing about overconsumption/overproduction, National debts and National growth! But if you do your research, you will discover all these are linked so tighlty, you get rid of one and the others crumble.

I also often hear people say; 'why these poor people make so many children if their in such poverty?' If you go live with them for a while, you will discover that the famillies that have the greatest chance to survive are the largest, where both the father and the mother work with responsibility. The small famillies, with unknown father, often with a high alcoholic problem, leaving the mother alone with her two kids, are the ones with the least chance to survive.

Now, coming from the mouth of a rich guy, drunk of so many desire of grandeur, it only add to the insult.

Namaste, Steven

morguana
8th December 2010, 20:22
The sad fact is that most people of reproductive age do not have access to imformed birth control, also that in many countries the woman has no say what ever, she belongs to the man (father, husband etc) and therefore has no choice in how many times she becomes pregnant. Many part of the world a sign of a mans fertility is demonstrated by how many children (sons pref) he sires. I am a firm advocate of birth control and from my research it has a direct link to the over all health of a family. Those that can little afford basic human needs such as nourishment and shelter are better off not having lots of children, it's a sad fact and can't be dismissed. Books to read would be the black report and the health divide, we can sit here in the comfort of our surroundings and idealize how people around the world live, but when half of our children are malnourished and impoverished, when parents can't provide for their needs, then educating folk on contraceptive measures seems to me a good thing. Also we are polluting our planet, we are causing huge problems with our attitude towards the environment and all life we share the earth with.....the industrial, intensive farming, and pillaging of resources will continue, the earth will eventually be a scaled up version of Easter island, it won't stop in time so in the mean while keeping the status quo with regards to population would imho be a prudent thing to do. A little over 100 years ago there was 1 billion humans on this planet, it's not rocket science to work out just how negatively we have impacted on life around us. Many animals are endangered as a direct consequence of the rapid expansion of human beings,
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morguana
8th December 2010, 20:30
Ps does this guy ted believe in one child per adult? As in a couple can have 2 or as in the Chinese model that clearly had huge problems of female infanticide......just a point to ponder