Mw 6.1 NEAR COAST OF ECUADOR

[EMSC]

Magnitude Mw 6.0Region NEAR COAST OF ECUADORDate time 2016-04-22 03:03:44.0 UTCLocation 0.26 S ; 80.44 WDepth 30 km



More... (http://www.emsc-csem.org/Earthquake/earthquake.php?id=502206)

[Aurelius]

discussed in the 36 to 53 min segment of the presentation ... (http://livestream.com/KFWorkshops/KSworkshops/videos/120419593)

... solutions are also described

[kirolak]

Yet another quake. . . it seems the earth changes are upon us. Be well & safe, all. . .

[Bill Ryan]

Yet another quake. . . it seems the earth changes are upon us. Be well & safe, all. . .

Yes. What's happening here (in Ecuador, in the affected areas) is not good at all.

Although three 6s is a lot better than one 7 (because the scale is logarithmic: a 7 is 10x as strong as a 6, and an 8 is 10x as strong as a 7), many damaged buildings are being brought down by the large aftershocks, and there are a lot of landslides restricting or preventing access. The reports indicate that there's a great deal of chaos, and a lot of people suffering, and probably a much larger death and injury toll than the official figures.

[kirolak]

So sorry to hear that, Bill, I hope you & yours are not affected. . . .

[Bill Ryan]

So sorry to hear that, Bill, I hope you & yours are not affected. . . .

Mara the :dog: and I are just fine! :) We're over 200 miles away. It's all happening quite a distance from here, on the coast in the north-west of the country.

I'm hearing that it's actually pretty bad. But, I guess, it's that way with all major earthquakes on land, everywhere. They just destroy things, and people.

The problem is, as with (e.g.) Haiti and Pakistan, a 7.8 there isn't the same as a 7.8 in San Francisco. In a developing country, all the buildings just come right down, and the infrastructure is stretched to breaking point with the government trying to help. It'd not be the same in the US, New Zealand, or even in Italy or China.

It gave me pause for thought, when my house was swaying (gently!), over 200 miles from the epicenter. That's a VAST, VAST amount of energy being dissipated... way more than a nuclear blast. The energy involved is almost unthinkable for humans to comprehend. Literally like Thor's hammer. Nothing can stop it.

[Bob]

Yet another quake. . . it seems the earth changes are upon us. Be well & safe, all. . .

Yes. What's happening here (in Ecuador, in the affected areas) is not good at all.

Although three 6s is a lot better than one 7 (because the scale is logarithmic: a 7 is 10x as strong as a 6, and an 8 is 10x as strong as a 7), many damaged buildings are being brought down by the large aftershocks, and there are a lot of landslides restricting or preventing access. The reports indicate that there's a great deal of chaos, and a lot of people suffering, and probably a much larger death and injury toll than the official figures.

We're able to "see" these on the CotoPaxi and Tungurahua volcano's seismographs. CotoPaxi seems to erupt (low level) shortly after a day of aftershocks, and watching the Tungurahua's seismographic the aftershocks and primary events are clearly noted. It is a wake-up watching the frequency of the events..

(see PA thread: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69130-CotoPaxi-Volcano-Ecuador-seismic-status&p=1062436&viewfull=1#post1062436)

[Bill Ryan]

It is a wake-up watching the frequency of the events..


Yes, it is. I reported here on the Cotopaxi thread last October (2015):
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69130-CotoPaxi-Volcano-Ecuador-seismic-status&p=1006034&viewfull=1#post1006034




Stealing Bob's thunder here for a moment (thank you for all these updates!), I heard this from a friend today:



A source close to [Ecuador's President] Correa told a friend of mine that there is 100% certainty of a very major, possibly catastrophic, eruption within the next few months.
That could of course be quite something. I live several hundred miles to the south, well out of harm's way, but it's certainly a topic I'm most interested to keep closely informed about.

[Bob]

It is a wake-up watching the frequency of the events..


[..] it's certainly a topic I'm most interested to keep closely informed about.


Those two volcanoes are a perfect 'pulse monitor' for ring of fire activity I believe.. And the website, http://correo.igepn.edu.ec/ , Ecuador's EXCELLENT Geophysical Institute are indispensable.. their quantity of monitoring stations and data I believe helps the world, not just local Ecuadorians. I certainly appreciate being able to keep an eye on things and share when something is up or potentially life altering.. Thanks Bill once again for the Forum and your interest.

[Jhonie]

Glad you are okay Bill.

[Bill Ryan]

I'm hearing that it's actually pretty bad. But, I guess, it's that way with all major earthquakes on land, everywhere. They just destroy things, and people.

The problem is, as with (e.g.) Haiti and Pakistan, a 7.8 there isn't the same as a 7.8 in San Francisco. In a developing country, all the buildings just come right down, and the infrastructure is stretched to breaking point with the government trying to help. It'd not be the same in the US, New Zealand, or even in Italy or China.



I can't extract the images to embed here, but for anyone who may be interested to see, this is a rather sobering slideshow of photos from the scene.

http://independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/ecuador-earthquake-today-61-magnitude-quake-coast-days-deadly-tremor-a6992366.html#gallery

[Fairy Friend]

I wasn't surprised to see more in Ecuador. I believe the sun is triggering these. And they are being triggered in more than one way.

[ThePythonicCow]

I can't extract the images to embed here, but for anyone who may be interested to see, this is a rather sobering slideshow of photos from the scene.
The images were rather large to post here, so I shrunk them a bit, but you can Click on any image below to get the larger original. Here's the first 8 of these 16 images:

http://thepythoniccow.us/ecuador-earthquake_small.jpg (http://www.independent.co.uk/s3/files/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2016/04/20/11/ecuador-earthquake.jpg)

http://thepythoniccow.us/ecuador-earthquake-3_small.jpg (http://www.independent.co.uk/s3/files/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2016/04/20/13/ecuador-earthquake-3.jpg)

http://thepythoniccow.us/ecuador-earthquake-2_small.jpg (http://www.independent.co.uk/s3/files/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2016/04/20/13/ecuador-earthquake-2.jpg)

http://thepythoniccow.us/ecuador-earthquake-4_small.jpg (http://www.independent.co.uk/s3/files/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2016/04/20/13/ecuador-earthquake-4.jpg)

http://thepythoniccow.us/ecuador-earthquake-1_small.jpg (http://www.independent.co.uk/s3/files/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2016/04/20/13/ecuador-earthquake-1.jpg)

http://thepythoniccow.us/ecudador8_small.jpg (http://www.independent.co.uk/s3/files/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2016/04/17/17/ecudador8.jpg)

http://thepythoniccow.us/ecuador5_small.jpg (http://www.independent.co.uk/s3/files/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2016/04/17/08/ecuador5.jpg)

http://thepythoniccow.us/ecuador4_0_small.jpg (http://www.independent.co.uk/s3/files/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2016/04/17/08/ecuador4_0.jpg)

[ThePythonicCow]

And here's the second 8 of the 16 images:


http://thepythoniccow.us/ecuador3_0_small.jpg (http://www.independent.co.uk/s3/files/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2016/04/17/08/ecuador3_0.jpg)

http://thepythoniccow.us/ecuador2_0_small.jpg (http://www.independent.co.uk/s3/files/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2016/04/17/08/ecuador2_0.jpg)

http://thepythoniccow.us/ecuador1_0_small.jpg (http://www.independent.co.uk/s3/files/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2016/04/17/08/ecuador1_0.jpg)

http://thepythoniccow.us/ecuador12_0_small.jpg (http://www.independent.co.uk/s3/files/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2016/04/17/17/ecuador12_0.jpg)

http://thepythoniccow.us/ecudador8_0_small.jpg (http://www.independent.co.uk/s3/files/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2016/04/17/17/ecudador8_0.jpg)

http://thepythoniccow.us/ecuador9_0_small.jpg (http://www.independent.co.uk/s3/files/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2016/04/17/17/ecuador9_0.jpg)

http://thepythoniccow.us/ecuador10_0_small.jpg (http://www.independent.co.uk/s3/files/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2016/04/17/17/ecuador10_0.jpg)

http://thepythoniccow.us/ecuador11_0_small.jpg (http://www.independent.co.uk/s3/files/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2016/04/17/17/ecuador11_0.jpg)

Click on any of the above 16 images to get the original larger version.

[Fairy Friend]

Hate to say this but wouldn't be surprised to see another one yet. Hoping not Ecuador again but pressure still there.

[Calz]

Whole lotta shakin' goin' on down there.

Anyone know why?

[Hervé]

Billion dollars question...

The only certainty is that it's the result of accumulated stress/pressure that's being released.

A release of pressure in one spot (rupture/earthquake) may or may not start some sort of chain reaction toward other neighboring area which are near rupture point as well, due to the newly created instability in the overall pressure distribution.

Hence the focus on so called "Silent Zones" along subduction zones. Seismically silent, that is. Meaning no major earthquakes having occurred along that subduction zone for some noticeable length of time and/or "overdue" from the estimation of the frequency (time-between) of earthquake occurrences recorded along that zone.

Earthquake silence / "Silent zones" have two main reasons: either it's because the subduction of an oceanic plate under a continental plate is well greased and slides without any hiccups; or the sliding is locked and not occurring and, therefore, accumulating lots of pressure/stress till rupture of rocks occurs; destabilizing the pressure distribution of that zone. Hence, the "aftershocks" due to the "re-stabilizing" of the stress/pressure field of that area. Some sort of "Domino Effect" till all the pressure is released and/or redistributed.

[Hervé]

Update (http://earthquake-report.com/2016/04/17/massive-earthquake-near-coast-of-ecuador-on-april-16-2016/) 05:48 UTC : Number of fatalities on April 22


Now, 602 dead,

130 missing,

12492 injured,

25376 people homeless,

113 rescued,

4430 buildings destroyed and

2740 buildings damaged.

281 schools affected.

[Bill Ryan]

Update (http://earthquake-report.com/2016/04/17/massive-earthquake-near-coast-of-ecuador-on-april-16-2016/) 05:48 UTC : Number of fatalities on April 22


Now, 602 dead,

130 missing,

12492 injured,

25376 people homeless,

113 rescued,

4430 buildings destroyed and

2740 buildings damaged.

281 schools affected.

Thanks. I have a detailed e-mail from someone in the area who says that the death toll is more like 1,500, and rising. It seems the government is trying to keep the official figures low.

[Lionhawk]

Thanks Billy for the pics. Still hard to imagine. Also not to get caught up with the numbers, and I could be wrong here, but isn't a 7.8 10X stronger than a 7.7?

One thing I also discovered is that whoever reports the numbers, down plays them. Where an actual 7.8 happened, they will down grade to say 7.4. I have no idea why they do that. And yet when you are in the middle of the event, the numbers are meaningless. Very hard to wrap your head around the power being played out.

Calz asked a 3 letter question. Why? Maybe some here could do some session work as to that question. I say that because I get the feeling that there is more to it than the obvious. This event could be the beginning of a localized cycle that could expand and play out other potentials. There is a reason for everything.

One thing I did learned from the hurricanes I have experienced is that the media will not report the truth as to the death toll. One way to get around that is find out how many body bags they order.

We are relieved that Bill is okay!

[Bill Ryan]

isn't a 7.8 10X stronger than a 7.7?


Thanks for your post! A minor clarification:

A 9.0 is 10x stronger than an 8.0, and an 8.0 is 10x stronger than a 7.0 (etc).

So — a sobering thought — a 9.0 is 1,000x as strong as a 6.0. And a 9.0 isn't the biggest possible.

[shaberon]

By "strong", it refers to units of power.

If analogous to sound: decibels are also a logarithmic measurement; 30 dB is ten times as "strong" as 20 dB, in terms of power required to generate it. It's measured this way to "humanize" it--a person will perceive 30 dB as twice as loud as 20dB. Same all along the scale; 130 dB "sounds" twice as loud as 120 dB, but takes ten times the power to generate it.

So by analogy, I would think for the earthquakes, a 7 "feels" twice the effect of a 6.

Looks horrible around there, and unfortunately it's not a loudspeaker you could switch off.

[Lionhawk]

Thanks Bill. I guess I went a little to far with my hard head. So if i understand this correctly, a 6.1 is twice as strong as a 6 mag?

Okay, my last question sounded retarded. I do understand the 10X factor between levels and how this is derived, as to how a 9 mag is 1000 times stronger than a 6 mag. 10 X 10 X 10. So instead the answer to my own question is that a 6.1 is 10% stringer than a 6 mag. Is that the correct answer?

Again sorry to sound like a retard.

[Hervé]

...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Earthquake_Richter_Scale.jpg

https://fwtinw.dm2302.livefilestore.com/y3p_Si2y163JNSlgSwKVF_tUgOA8tYlmFdf-8sm8sxGqKrxow8Lw02FE5c9At6oL4Hq5KeYpaj9tOdiAfavD_TDgnD9WvS3shTNLdghYGZ2WtHS75z4Os-9-Ldfhiw0Vjn7mFOBUGVIVuh7Cwr-8MkhZhmNjN61QN6ou4FXz5esi2A/2016-04-24%20at%2004-27-55.jpg?psid=1

[shaberon]

This is what I get for studying math...had no clue the Richter scale was abandoned and there's a lot more in the measurement than simply a logarithm.

One step in the scale (4-->5) is 32 times the energy; two steps (4-->6) is 1,000 times as much.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moment_magnitude_scale

That's what the Mw symbol refers to.

[ThePythonicCow]

Thanks Bill. I guess I went a little to far with my hard head. So if i understand this correctly, a 6.1 is twice as strong as a 6 mag?

Okay, my last question sounded retarded. I do understand the 10X factor between levels and how this is derived, as to how a 9 mag is 1000 times stronger than a 6 mag. 10 X 10 X 10. So instead the answer to my own question is that a 6.1 is 10% stringer than a 6 mag. Is that the correct answer?

Again sorry to sound like a retard.

The way logarithms/exponents work, a 6.3 would be about twice (2.0 times) as strong as a 6.0.

A 6.1 would be about 1.25 times as strong as a 6.0.

[Lionhawk]

Thanks Paul! :handshake: That's why I sounded retarded. The answer to my own question I had figured was around 1.5 times the strength at least on the first placement. Although it appears to be linear, it isn't. I also figured out that the strength would also be different pending on where you are at on the scale. I was trying to understand the relationships
with the numbers. Plus I was doing this all in my own hard head. Thanks for verifying what my hard head came up with. :happy dog: