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shaberon
26th April 2016, 21:14
A grave concern has just come to me. Yes, I understand about all the FEMA and DHS type stuff that goes on. I'm now wondering how small-scale it gets.

So, there is a property of about 20 acres which, if I remain in the U. S., I may be relegated to inhabit for the back end of my life. It's good land near the headwaters of a modestly-sized river. The general area has long been used for military survival training. The exercise where a group of soldiers is dropped off without food in an area where they have no jurisdiction, and have to survive their way back to a rally point. Normal, no worries.

Recently, past few weeks suddenly it has become a scene for a whole lot of live fire. Semi auto from what I myself have heard and possibly artillery from what I've been told.

What happened is the next door neighbor who had about 20 acres, sold his property. Not exactly sure to whom yet. It's an ordinary house in the woods. What's happened so far is that a heavy gate with no identifying marks has been installed at the end of the driveway. Last weekend at about one in the morning, a large truck went up there and was locked out. The driver could be heard calling or radioing for someone to unlock the gate. Eventually another truck came along and let them in, and when they got to the house, they were heard unloading a cargo of large metal objects.

Does this sound like something the Department of Defense does? Without any "Keep Out" or "Property of" signage posted, would it be a huge risk to try to get a closer look at the stuff? Is such a facility likely to already have sensors that can detect a human before they get close? I'm far less concerned about the Army or Marines that if it is a secretive outfit from the Executive branch. And I'm guessing DoD would use appropriate markings and obvious military vehicles. So far it's all unmarked.

Nasu
27th April 2016, 04:20
Could your new neighbour have beat you to it and had a similar idea to you and set up a bug out style survival group???... N

shaberon
27th April 2016, 05:00
Well, I try to hold out the case that it might be a private gun club with a small howitzer.

I wish I was making this up, but I just got a call about a ufo around there. I therefor checked my sky and found--seven.

Not at first though. At first I thought I saw Mars and Venus, appropriately colored. On a casual glance with ordinary astigmatism I just would have kept going. I just looked it up and Mars and Venus are not out right now.

As my eyes adjusted I found these to be basically the same thing: a light more or less shaped like a matchstick, that is, brighter at one end. Each having a slight hollow bulge in the middle. There are at least five more further away/fainter. We don't have good enough cameras or long distance optical gear to improve on that.

Does that sound like any other kind of sighting or a typical loss of vision? These are not moving very much, and I can't get the same "visual defect" from other stars, if that's what's going on.

1 1/2 hours later: same thing. I tried to tell myself that the "Mars" one is Orion's Sword but, there is a bright moonrise and some haze, can't see the actual sword...it's not quite the right place, and there are two fainter ones near it, all on the same bearing.

The "Venus" one appears in the line from the Pole Star through the edge of the Big Dipper, towards the south, 25-30 degrees or about twice the distance from it as the Pole Star. Not pointed quite on the same line however.

And still a few more faint ones. These objects are not all pointing the same way, which makes me think its not a visual or atmospheric effect.

30 mins later: going to call of the dogs for the ufo thing. The linear objects appear to rotate when I lean my head from side to side. Must be going blind.

Figured it out using the moon; I have double vision in my dominant eye. Can use my weak eye to see a single, blurry moon...or the good one to see the details, but, it's two of them. Bad news for me there, however, my friend saw a flying craft that I need to get a better story of.

But if anyone has any clue about what type of organization might occupy a property as described, that would be much appreciated.

shaberon
2nd May 2016, 06:45
I forgot to ask about the flying thing; but I looked at next door neighbor's house, and its not really a gate, but an unmarked cable across the driveway.

A little sniffing and I found the property deed went to a trust, and the trust made an agreement with the Army. It is for training but, at the same time it is for non-development and conservation of the forest, which I think they have a similar agreement for the woods across the river; it must be in a different trust and has no address, harder to look up, but I'm pretty sure it's the same deal.

Actually, I'm incredibly relieved it's not the CIA/DHS/some other goon squad...that I probably would have made some unwise choices in doing weird stuff to. But just so you know, the DoD does take control of ordinary houses in an unmarked way; I don't think this ranks as a conspiritorial crime against humanity; if it ever turns into some kind of ufo landing site, I'll go from there.

shaberon
5th May 2016, 16:34
What I found out about the flying vehicle is that it was shaped like a Celtic cross with yellow, green, and red lights (not like ordinary marker lights). It was hovering, not perfectly still, but zig zagging in a small area. And it was far away, not over the army's woods.

I was unable to see that, but what I saw that night was Jupiter, and Mars in Ophiuchus (which is shaped similarly to Orion). Now that I realize my eye problem does not treat all luminaries equally, it puts a damper on small distant lights reports.