The Earth's Magnetic Field Did Not Collapse This Week

[Bill Ryan]

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I've not heard Ben Davidson (Suspicious Observers (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTiL1q9YbrVam5nP2xzFTWQ)) sound so annoyed for a long time.

My strong advice: don't rely on ANY other YouTube source for anything connected with Space Weather. There's a bunch of craziness out there spawned by people who just don't understand the physics.

Not understanding is very forgivable, but many hysteria-prone bloggers and YouTubers are way too eager to post and re-post things that they don't understand.

The Magnetic Field Did Not Collapse This Week


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmuDWfk-tEM

[ljwheat]

Yes allot of shills out there, mainly Gov. Ops leave no stone un-turned in clogging the system with half or total lies, 6% media ratings people turning to the internet for facts, its now under full on attack as well, Forums like ours is not untouched as we all have witnessed, Its a war for our country and our minds, all that we stand for is under attack on all levels of life or thinking in these times. Thanks for staying on top of this Bill. and thumbs up for all of our Mods. :thumbsup:

[OMG]

There are soooo many failed predictions from so-called, scientific, paranormal, spiritual, etc, proponents that I often wondered if anyone has ever attempted to gather and organize them coherently on any particular forum or website?

It's interesting how we humans think. I am reminded right now of the TV show "The Curse of Oak Island" http://www.history.com/shows/the-curse-of-oak-island/about

Anyone who has watched this show has observed the numerous "researched" theories presented by people on what is buried there and who did it. It's amazing to see how rational or convincing some of these theories are, based on the data provided.

Yet there is ONLY one correct answer and that can only be proven from the FACT of discovering the reality buried there, if any.

Unfortunately we too often have to wait until something is discovered, or happens, before knowing the real truth. But there are scientific models that can predict with a fair degree of certainty future events. However, I believe in order for this to happen there needs to already have been reliable and observable past data.

Anyone wanna take a shot on how objective predictions can be made with any accuracy?

I will say, at least in the spiritual and paranormal genres, that I get VERY irritated by people who have "contact" with some being, alien or whatever, and are told this or that and then irresponsibly share it socially!

[Lifebringer]

I myself have been thinking that perhaps the other solar system will tow us into another orbit to avoid a black hole in the future that is hidden by the sun? Just my opinion or meanderings of wonder;)

It goes past Orion and Sirius, doesn't it?

[Bill Ryan]

I myself have been thinking that perhaps the other solar system will tow us into another orbit to avoid a black hole in the future that is hidden by the sun? Just my opinion or meanderings of wonder;)

It goes past Orion and Sirius, doesn't it?

Not really sure if that's connected with the Earth's magnetic field not collapsing! (And, if I may say this gently, your science there may be rather open to question. :) )

:focus:

[Ted]

Won't collapse next week either.

[Callista]

Ted I have to say I LOVE your pithy comment!! Made me laugh :ROFL:

[Bill Ryan]

Won't collapse next week either.

Nor ever. As Ben Davidson points out, we'd know because we'd all be dead. :)

But it is weakening, and that's known. It's a potentially serious problem. This video is relevant... Ben's presentation that solar storms (and, in particular, earth-directed CMEs) have always been a risk, but now that the magnetosphere is weaker, smaller storms than before can now do great damage.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVgUZv9ccyQ

[uzn]

Maybe we should move all failed predictions and prophecies that get posted here on Avalon to a "Failed Predictions" Folder or category. That way the important categories get to keep the substantial Threads. And people spare themselfs reading for three pages just to find out that it was all about thin air. And if they wanna read about failed predictions they can head for that category/folder.

[Carmody]

I myself have been thinking that perhaps the other solar system will tow us into another orbit to avoid a black hole in the future that is hidden by the sun? Just my opinion or meanderings of wonder;)

It goes past Orion and Sirius, doesn't it?


For perspective:

The slightest disturbance in the earth's motion, travel, or spin... in any way, would cause a reorganization of the surface, at a minimum.

when I say the slightest disturbance, I don't mean 10%, or 5% or 1% or even 0.1% I mean slightest. as in 0.01%. that would be enough to wreak havoc at the level of 'the end of civilization.'

let's say you have a 25 gallon (100L) fish tank at one end of a room, and you have wooden floors, strong stable wooden floors. And you stand at the other end of the room, at the entrance to the room, where it is most stable. And you stomp your foot, fairly lightly. And you see the slightest ripple form on the surface of the water of the fish tank. A level of ripple so small, that you can barely perceive it from your position, 20 feet away. Less than 0.01% (and even less) of your foot-stomp energies have made it to that fish tank.

If that fish tank was the earth, those would be massive tsunamis, probably combined with earthquakes, that would end human civilization, at a minimum. A planet passing near by earth, or near the solar system, would cause MUCH more disturbance than that. Life on the planet would be ended, for the most part. It takes a fairly small asteroid strike to do the same.


The earth is stable. Those kinds of disturbances I'm talking about are very rare, incredibly rare and easy to see coming, before they do happen. there is no indication of any potential issues out there. No planets moving nearby, no disturbances in outer planet orbits, and so on.

It's not like shoving someone out of your way. That sort of force would be enough to end the idea of a planet, for the most part. In such a scenario, the earth is more like a loosely associated/clumped mud balloon. Nothing could come near it without all life as we know it...ending.

That has not happened in billions of years.

And it's not happening tomorrow either. There's no nearby planet disturbing the planet's motion, to the point of moving us, at all. As all of it would end in fire and lava. with plenty of warning ahead of time. Probably decades of warning.

I'm trying to illustrate that human mechanics of pushing and shoving and being human and moving around... have zero...no, actually... less than zero connection to celestial mechanics.

[Eram]

Maybe we should move all failed predictions and prophecies that get posted here on Avalon to a "Failed Predictions" Folder or category. That way the important categories get to keep the substantial Threads. And people spare themselfs reading for three pages just to find out that it was all about thin air. And if they wanna read about failed predictions they can head for that category/folder.

Some time ago RMORGAN (retired member) started a thread about failed predictions.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45294-Predictions-that-never-happened-

[DNA]

It's situations like what we see going on with the magnetic field that cause one to see the advantages of living underground, as Phil Schnieder stated the elite were prepared to do. Sometimes I wonder, are those that control the earth already living underground? Are these underground cities laying dormant in preparation for a mass of inhabitants or are they right now running at full strength with a peak population already in place?
It seems that there are more than just humans on this planet that live underground the same way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slgb5U-OqFM
Slgb5U-OqFM

[Nick Matkin]

I've not heard Ben Davidson (Suspicious Observers (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTiL1q9YbrVam5nP2xzFTWQ)) sound so annoyed for a long time.

My strong advice: don't rely on ANY other YouTube source for anything connected with Space Weather. There's a bunch of craziness out there spawned by people who just don't understand the physics.

Not understanding is very forgivable, but many hysteria-prone bloggers and YouTubers are way too eager to post and re-post things that they don't understand.


Agreed. But on the other hand, anyone with some understanding of physics who bothers to point out the errors and inaccuracies of stupid videos and websites, are themselves sometimes accused of being paid government shills by credophiles (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Credophile)- who seem to inhabit all forums on all subjects and are impervious to clear logic.

There's little point in explaining an alternative view to these folks because all you get is: "Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up!"

[avid]

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When I was much younger, and rubbish at physics, I knew that gamma rays were real, so assumed 'yobba rays' also existed. Physics master got very cross... :blushing:
Mars was all the rage then as well!

The only person who explained earthly and solar 'happenings' clearly to me this week is Clif High from Halfpasthuman.com, expando planet, sloshing earthly innards, and stuff in the solar system causing a few problems, but no Nibiru....
03t3XaXERwU Posted elswhere but relevant to my situation.

[Bill Ryan]

Clif High from Halfpasthuman.com

Last time I e-mailed with Clif personally, he'd just (very kindly) invited me to Seattle to stay with him. That was in mid-2012, when he was building an unsinkable boat to survive the imminent pole shift.

[Callista]

Clif High recommends the videos from DjSadhu. Here is one of them:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4V-ooITrws

I think its awesome.

[ghostrider]

As long as we have a fusion star that earth orbits around , the field will never collapse ... bursts of energy from the sun along with several other factors is what expands and contracts the magnetic field , sort of like a heart beat ... scientist forget earth is a living being , with just as much spiritual energy as you and I , and she was here first, 626 billion years older than us ...the ETs Say she Spent 20 Billion Years in the gasoeuus state BEFORE becoming Solid matter ...

[Nick Matkin]

As long as we have a fusion star that earth orbits around , the field will never collapse ... bursts of energy from the sun along with several other factors is what expands and contracts the magnetic field , sort of like a heart beat ... scientist forget earth is a living being , with just as much spiritual energy as you and I , and she was here first, 626 billion years older than us ...the ETs Say she Spent 20 Billion Years in the gasoeuus state BEFORE becoming Solid matter ...

I think the maintenance of the Earth's magnetic field has more to do with our spinning molten iron core than any influence from the sun. After all, it's likely Mars had a magnetic field (as evidenced by the planet's composition) that cooled and decayed, and look how that turned out...

[Carmody]

I've not heard Ben Davidson (Suspicious Observers (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTiL1q9YbrVam5nP2xzFTWQ)) sound so annoyed for a long time.

My strong advice: don't rely on ANY other YouTube source for anything connected with Space Weather. There's a bunch of craziness out there spawned by people who just don't understand the physics.

Not understanding is very forgivable, but many hysteria-prone bloggers and YouTubers are way too eager to post and re-post things that they don't understand.


Agreed. But on the other hand, anyone with some understanding of physics who bothers to point out the errors and inaccuracies of stupid videos and websites, are themselves sometimes accused of being paid government shills by credophiles (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Credophile)- who seem to inhabit all forums on all subjects and are impervious to clear logic.

There's little point in explaining an alternative view to these folks because all you get is: "Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up!"

however, Nick, the problem is believing that answers lie hidden under the box in the front yard, as it is a scenario you know and understand. Your front yard, your box and your grass under the box. and to believe it ends there.

The modern scientific mind can be just as much of a credophile (bad choice of word, IMO)as anyone else, and, actually, have so much more lore and data..... that they are incredibly unlikely to escape their comfort zone. Wrong or not, the credophile has at least embraced some form of mental and/or psychological position change, which is more than I can say for the scientifically indoctrinated dogmatic types.

Right or wrong -----at least they are trying.

As a matter of fact, scientific exploration REQUIRES the minimum of trying on the new ideas and marching around the room, wearing that new mask, to see if it can be made to function.

The reality is that both groups commit the ultimate sin of believing in data as fact, to believe in the idea of a fact and permanence in knowing and knowledge, as tied to the way that emotions are formally and structurally, the primary filters, designers, and launchers..within the mind ------in all thought creation.

That's the fault point that scientific and scholarly folks vs this idea of credophiles, that's the part where they falsely go to war with one another.... and self destruct on the shores of each others battles. The bulk of what is established science today, does indeed deeply resemble the church and religious tomes of yesteryear. When you step back and look, they both are built on unalterable dogma, where detractors are punished powerfully.

Reasonable people step back and see this overview I'm speaking of ....and understand it is the mind as limit, not logic.

I grow exceedingly tired in spending all my time - trying to teach people how to think. I do it, as that is the kernel of the issue.

A critical part of that, regarding 'how to think'... is when you arrive at an answer.. one may use it....but NEVER trust it. Ultimately, all facts fail, and the motion forward is living inside of that understanding ...and thus ...always moving forward.

A fact is a handhold on a journey, one where old handholds have to be let go of in order to move forward. The fundamental point being that large chunks of known science will be found to be erroneous or exceedingly far from being complete. There is no avoiding this, when moving forward. Anything else is just a giant emotionally fueled self lie.

If you want to move forward, then move all sciences into a position of such fluidity and change.

These credophiles, as you may call them, many of them...have at least tried this. Right or wrong, at least they are actually trying.

Which is far more than I can say for the bulk of academia and science, the type of personality within such groups... that get to headbutting in a incorrect fashion (one that aggravates the situation and maintains the battle as central in life - they've had their brain self licked and stuck to their own ass) with those who attempt to explore and change..

[Nick Matkin]

A thoughtful reply Carmody. However, I and all the 'scientific' people I know require repeatable examples to prove or disprove a hypothesis. All 'credophiles' require is belief, unhindered by evidence to the contrary. The burgeoning belief in the Flat Earth I cite as evidence.

Although there certainly is scientific dogma (denial of continental drift for decades being a good example - despite 'mountains' of evidence!), but eventually it caves in, often by young scientists wanting to a) prove their seniors wrong, and b) make a name for themselves. However, if all new scientific ideas were dismissed by dogma or vested interests, we would never - for example - have developed the thermionic valve, let alone the transistor and other semiconductors, or electric light, or the internal combustion engine, or CDs, or...

Contentious issues like the dangers or otherwise of non-ionising radiation or the harmful effects of some pharmaceutical drugs may be denied initially, but eventually the evidence (or lack of it) will lead to the truth. That's how we move on.

[Daozen]

This is one of those subjects where a No Thanks button (suggested by someone else) may be useful, so the community could downvote pseudo-scientific predictions (if they wanted to) and we wouldn't have to exhaust oursleves debunking them.

Putting it into perspective: how many people on Earth believe this stuff anyway? Worldwide, a couple of hundred people, a few thousand? Let them believe it, I guess. Just another tar baby to be ignored.

[Carmody]

A thoughtful reply Carmody. However, I and all the 'scientific' people I know require repeatable examples to prove or disprove a hypothesis. All 'credophiles' require is belief, unhindered by evidence to the contrary. The burgeoning belief in the Flat Earth I cite as evidence.

Although there certainly is scientific dogma (denial of continental drift for decades being a good example - despite 'mountains' of evidence!), but eventually it caves in, often by young scientists wanting to a) prove their seniors wrong, and b) make a name for themselves. However, if all new scientific ideas were dismissed by dogma or vested interests, we would never - for example - have developed the thermionic valve, let alone the transistor and other semiconductors, or electric light, or the internal combustion engine, or CDs, or...

Contentious issues like the dangers or otherwise of non-ionising radiation or the harmful effects of some pharmaceutical drugs may be denied initially, but eventually the evidence (or lack of it) will lead to the truth. That's how we move on.

My reply here can be taken from another contribution for today:




And that's why, when there are, in non-holographic expression context...why there are 7 billion people on the planet, with a concurrent 7 billion names of god.

The manipulation occupies the position of filtering and altering the connectivity/interface and communication points between those 7 billion entities.

My terms and musings are specifically and explicitly --not sacrosanct.

If one understands this, then they understand that neither is theirs, and then growth and change in individuals and groups can occur.

This leads to being a reply to the above post.

why we can't have a 'no thanks' button.

The perception of it being derogatory in nature, implicitly defeats growth and creates and holds permanence in mentality.... as it turns into an emotionally heightened discourse, which inherently blocks logic function in the biologically launched individual.

One must try to spiral down into peace and be outside of emotional manipulation of self and interface with others..in order to allow logic to come on line. This does not mean dropping emotion out of the equation, but it does imply that emotionally driven ego function can be curbed with some developed and considered techniques.

A 'no thanks' button does this simple and effective concept considerable harm.

Which, via domino logic, leads to a better understanding of Facebook, reddit, and so on.

The upvoting and downvoting of comment sections. How animal "no thought" re-enforcement and maintenance in nature they obviously are.

These things are designed to capitalize in the form of promoting and maintaining parasitic control into... the subject of such manipulation. An enforcement of the one who integrates with it...to being a dumb commodity.

The unconscious monkey has facts, clans, enemies in the tall grass, and so on.

[Hervé]

[...]
This guy's got a good grip on the subject except he is missing why our sun is traveling in an elliptical spiral in a similar fashion as planets do around it... i.e. that the sun is "orbiting" around a twin in a binary system:


C4V-ooITrws
[...]

I have been looking at the reported changes happening around this planet and wondering what's really happening for an increase in the number of powerful earthquakes, storms and hurricanes as well as the considerable increase of plumbing system mishaps called "sink holes."

Weather storms seem to indicate an increase in the spinning power of their vortex... water damage turning into sinkholes could also indicate an increase in the vortex power of circulating water... but I couldn't fit earthquakes into that model until realizing where these powerful earthquakes are mostly happening: subduction zones.

What's the engine for subductions and oceanic crusts motion: convection cells in the mantle acting as conveyor belts (like some hydraulic gear shift (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque_converter)s work)... VORTEX!

There is an increase in the strength of vortex spins affecting anything having some "fluidity."

That's an increase in the difference of potential between something and something else which is usually translated in terms of electromagnetism.

Where could such an increase in potential be coming from...

... enters the "Electric Universe"!

... and our solar system postulated as a binary system (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57644-Nemesis-Tyche-Nibiru-Planet-X-Brown-Dwarf-Binary-System-Myths-Realities&p=656650&viewfull=1#post656650). That's our sun and its postulated dwarf twin acting as the two poles of a charged capacitor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor).

When the two poles get closer, the potential difference increases due to the shortening of the distance... up to a maximum when at closest to each other (hopefully not a shorting of the circuit where the system is reset at equipotential (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipotential) for both poles with a big spark).

That's where I am at, at the moment and it's subject to revision at any time new data show up :)

[Eram]

however, Nick, the problem is believing that answers lie hidden under the box in the front yard, as it is a scenario you know and understand. Your front yard, your box and your grass under the box. and to believe it ends there.

The modern scientific mind can be just as much of a credophile (bad choice of word, IMO)as anyone else, and, actually, have so much more lore and data..... that they are incredibly unlikely to escape their comfort zone. Wrong or not, the credophile has at least embraced some form of mental and/or psychological position change, which is more than I can say for the scientifically indoctrinated dogmatic types.

Right or wrong -----at least they are trying.



A thoughtful reply Carmody. However, I and all the 'scientific' people I know require repeatable examples to prove or disprove a hypothesis. All 'credophiles' require is belief, unhindered by evidence to the contrary. The burgeoning belief in the Flat Earth I cite as evidence.

I think that the main factor that makes the all the difference is the Socratean realization that some people have had and some people haven't.



“I know one thing: that I know nothing.”

― Socrates

People in science can be just as self blinded as credophiles, but I have to agree with Nick that objective scientific facts and clean logic prevails over dogmatic emotional thinking and can only be overruled by intuition (which is often confused with fantasy).

[bettye198]

I myself am very aware of the constant bombarding of predictions and prophecy. The conspiracy forums are mind boggling. However, that said and understood, since we live in a 3 D world with realism and time constraints and beliefs how do we know what was placed into the ether, to go viral, to see our response? How do we know how many predictions failed because there was interception? I would not assume but would always discern with my own higher intuition of course.
I just read a piece that said from some unknown, a collective voice so to speak, that has "watched us responsibly" for 214,370 yrs. The info stated they were us in the past. Now they are in the future. Who is to dispel the time wave when they supposedly live outside time? They have exact predictions with dates and trust me, I do NOT believe dates as they are probabilities. However, I did jot down what they predicted, stuffed it away in a drawer in case something comes of it. They encouraged us to dissolve our EGO ( that is commendable), they encouraged us not to ever come back here ( I already have that on my bucket list), they advised to question the light when we are ready to depart as it appears as trickery ( I already knew that and there are tons of videos on that issue) and they said that ET channelings are not real. ( my feeling) and they said that the gods with the little g create constructs. ( very plausible ) and they reminded us that junk DNA is not junk. I( I already knew that). They said watch this year for the big Gamma Ray Bursts that create divisions in the tectonic plates and when Japan breaks off in the lower islands due to EQ that is the first warning. It was asked how this collective voice could even jump into a forum if they lived outside time. The answer was they utilized lensing cubes to hijack in order to post. Cube technology. I found that interesting since I learned that was plausible in the minds of futuristic thinkers.

[Redstar Kachina]

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[Bill Ryan]

FEMA High Level Briefing Mega Earthquake Swarms Coming

If he really had taken notes from a meeting he'd had that day with a retired Army Colonel, he couldn't possibly have done a worse job.

My considered opinion: he's outright lying, and invented it all for dramatic effect.

[Daozen]

I myself am very aware of the constant bombarding of predictions and prophecy. The conspiracy forums are mind boggling. However, that said and understood, since we live in a 3 D world with realism and time constraints and beliefs how do we know what was placed into the ether, to go viral, to see our response? How do we know how many predictions failed because there was interception? I would not assume but would always discern with my own higher intuition of course.

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I just read a piece that said from some unknown, a collective voice so to speak, that has "watched us responsibly" for 214,370 yrs. The info stated they were us in the past. Now they are in the future. Who is to dispel the time wave when they supposedly live outside time? They have exact predictions with dates and trust me, I do NOT believe dates as they are probabilities. It was asked how this collective voice could even jump into a forum if they lived outside time. The answer was they utilized lensing cubes to hijack in order to post. Cube technology. I found that interesting since I learned that was plausible in the minds of futuristic thinkers.

Do you have a link Bettye? It sounds like there might be some truth in that link. Maybe it's a description of the rumoured House Abrasax.

I think they are injecting prophecy into the alt media in an attempt to get us to co-create and dream various self-destructive timelines into our reality. They are not doing a very good job, as the veil is breaking down, and we're getting wise to their manipulations. A movie called Existenz shows one aspect of this.

[RunningDeer]

FEMA High Level Briefing Mega Earthquake Swarms Coming

Just watched. I confess, I could barely understand any of it. In terms of the quality of a data-oriented, time-oriented, location-oriented intelligence briefing, it was next to useless. It was illogical, irrational and disconnected.

If he really had taken notes from a meeting he'd had that day with a retired Army Colonel, he couldn't possibly have done a worse job.

Anyone with knowledge of geophysics here, able to explain any of this better than Tom Lupshu did? (I suspect not, but there's no harm in asking!)
I half listened while I checked out his stats:

- The guy, Tom Lupshu (https://www.youtube.com/user/SurvivalOhio2013/videos) has almost 51,000 subscribers.
- Hits to that video are approximately 258,000 in two weeks.
- I ran a Google search with his YouTube title and it goes three pages deep (https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=FEMA+High+Level+Briefing+Mega+Earthquake+Swarms+Coming&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=FEMA+High+Level+Briefing+Mega+Earthquake+Swarms+Coming&start=0).

That’s a lot of programing.



FEMA High Level Briefing Mega Earthquake Swarms Coming
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[Bill Ryan]

- The guy, Tom Lupshu (https://www.youtube.com/user/SurvivalOhio2013/videos) has almost 51,000 subscribers.
- Hits to that video are approximately 258,000 in two weeks.


Yes. And judging by the quality of comments on the video, there's no hope for America. It's all over already :)

[Callista]

Is it just me, or is there a false-flag flavour to all this information from Tom Lupshu? :idea:

[ghostrider]

Mars lost its atmosphere because of the stupid actions of of forefathers and partly due to a cosmic event ...those maniacs destroyed a planet and the atmosphere of Mars ...

[Nick Matkin]

Mars lost its atmosphere because of the stupid actions of of forefathers and partly due to a cosmic event ...those maniacs destroyed a planet and the atmosphere of Mars ...

Interesting. Is that fact or opinion?

[ghostrider]

It is history passed down to edward Meier from the plejaren...

[Wind]

That's not the only source.

[RunningDeer]

Is it just me, or is there a false-flag flavour to all this information from Tom Lupshu? :idea:
IMO, yes, a false-flager. I did check his other videos. (see snippets below) It’s one of the ways I discern the info. Most of his don’t have a high viewer count. Which makes me wonder how his current one went viral and why lots of news sites jumped on this particular one.

It seems that Tommy got hit with the special fame bug. Two days after that video, he announced he’s invited to speak on radio.




Tommy starts off with: Boy, oh boy. You can tell when you’re getting close to the truth. I’m telling ya. You just come under attack from all different directions.


Earth Changes, Natural Disasters, Major Separation Of Land Mass,
Tom Lupshu On Radio Show
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[Hervé]

If one compares my working hypothesis laid out in post # 23 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90378-The-Earth-s-Magnetic-Field-Did-Not-Collapse-This-Week&p=1065032&viewfull=1#post1065032) with Redstar Kashina's video (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90378-The-Earth-s-Magnetic-Field-Did-Not-Collapse-This-Week&p=1065103&viewfull=1#post1065103)... it may be that FEMA is working out of a very similar hypothesis...

Regarding the separation of landmasses... well, there is a factual premise for that extrapolation for the western portion of the U.S. and that's the existence of a "Mid Oceanic Ridge" system that got buried under the North American Continent between the north end of the Golf of California (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_California) and the Juan the Fuca / Gorda plates ridges which are offset by what is called "Transform Faults"... namely, the San Andreas Fault system:


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Transform_fault-1.svg/701px-Transform_fault-1.svg.png
Transform fault (the red lines)


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/WestcoastSeaplates.svg/878px-WestcoastSeaplates.svg.png


http://www.geosociety.org/gsatoday/archive/21/11/figure/i1052-5173-21-11-4-f01.jpg
Figure 1. (http://www.geosociety.org/gsatoday/archive/21/11/article/i1052-5173-21-11-4.htm)


Tectonic map of the Pacific–North America plate boundary of the Gulf of California–Salton trough region (modified from Dorsey and Umhoefer, 2011). Thin black lines are faults; red lines are spreading centers[AKA "Mid Oceanic Ridge"] in the southern Gulf of California and complex pull-apart basins in the northern Gulf of California and Salton trough. Abbreviations from north to south: SAF—San Andreas fault; G—Guaymas spreading center; C—Carmen spreading center; F—Farallon spreading center; P—Pescadero spreading center; A—Alarcón spreading center; T-A F.Z.—Tosco-Abreajos fault zone; EPR—East Pacific Rise. Normal faults on the Baja California peninsula and islands are selected young and active faults.



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Published on Nov 17, 2012
The Gulf of California is a classic place to study the early stages of the opening of an ocean basin. This animation depicts the evolution of the spreading ridge that marks the boundary between the Pacific and North American Tectonic Plates. The spreading ridge and transform faults are defined, then we go back 20 million years, borrowing an animation from Tanya Atwater (emvc.geol.ucsb.edu) to see changes in the Baja peninsula and the breakup of the continental shelf. The on-land part of this submarine spreading ridge extends into Baja California, Mexico and the Imperial Valley of California where it is transitioning from ridge-transform boundary to the continental boundary.

Animation by Jenda Johnson, Earth Sciences Animated
Reviewed by Luciana Astiz, U.C. San Diego (Scripps)

visit www.iris.edu/educate (http://www.iris.edu/educate) to see other Earth-science animations.

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Regarding "water weight," there too, there is a premise for the concern and that's an artificially created "rebounds (http://news.berkeley.edu/2014/05/14/central-valley-groundwater-depletion-raises-sierra-and-may-trigger-small-earthquakes/)" and/or subsidence (http://waterinthewest.stanford.edu/groundwater/overdraft/) by pumping out aquifers and/or droughts... inversely for areas under floodings and their saturated, soaked wet grounds (a different kind of "potential difference").





In the end, it's all a matter of perspective: Earth scientists cannot deny the POSSIBILITY for such things occurring but, usually, over a few million years, unless - like FEMA - they are strapped for cash and make it a catastrophic, urgent matter in their competition for fundings/grants/etc...

All I can say, is that there is indeed an apparent intensification of the "potential-difference" postulated at the origin of the increase in strength AND number of storms and earthquakes.

[Fairy Friend]

I have been following SO work for years now and know of others doing the same. I am most impressed by them. Pay attention to what they have to say. Lots of shady people out there, you have to ignore a lot. The work SO have done is ground breaking.

[quiltinggrandma]

I often get sucked into this subject when cern is discussed.

[Star Tsar]

Ben answers four of the most asked questions put to Suspicious Observers on magnetic reversal.
I thought it would fit in on this thread.

:sun:

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[Satori]

I'm an "Isist." Universe is. Infinite intelligence is. Your G-d is.

A thing (all things: corporeal or incorporeal) we perceive "is" as it is because if it weren't as it "is", then it could either not be perceived (because perhaps it does not exist) or be something other than what we perceive. (This is an example of the "anthropic principle.")

I am being human. You are being human (I assume). Non-human life forms are "being" something else.

Being human, we have control over only one thing. (Though few of us, including me, exercise plenary control of this one thing.) That one thing "is" our own thoughts (and thus our own actions or inactions). In my view, having control over only one thing must mean that we have control over the most important thing--our thoughts. Thoughts are ("is") truly things. How we beings use or misuse thought is up to each individual--which translates to the collective. The outcomes are good, bad, or indifferent. It is what it is and what it has been and will be.

We who are being human do not have any control of what other beings think and, thus, we have no control over what other beings do or do not do.

Get used to it. Let it be. "Is" is where it is.

[Nick Matkin]

But what were the maps of earth showing towards the end of the video in #40?

And the precipitous graph - what was the vertical scale showing the decline of since 1850? Presumably the earth's magnetic field, but in what units? And was it a linear or logarithmic sale? (Those with some technical background will appreciate why that is relevant.) How accurate were the first measurements over 200 years ago?

An interesting collection of ideas, but too little relevant technical content - and none of it was placed in any kind of context.

[Fairy Friend]

But what were the maps of earth showing towards the end of the video in #40?

And the precipitous graph - what was the vertical scale showing the decline of since 1850? Presumably the earth's magnetic field, but in what units? And was it a linear or logarithmic sale? (Those with some technical background will appreciate why that is relevant.) How accurate were the first measurements over 200 years ago?

An interesting collection of ideas, but too little relevant technical content - and none of it was placed in any kind of context.

http://www.suspicious0bservers.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/NewPaper-4.pdf

Here is the first (I think) publication. Perhaps will help you. They have Been accurate in many predictions of quake activity. I was impressed enough to hop on a plane and attend their lectures in Jan. in Phoenix if that tells you something.

[MorningSong]

Here's something I just happen to run up on today regarding the Earth's magnetic field, supposedly from May 4, 2016:


Earth’s Magnetic Shield is weakening – Spokane Tech Time

New study shows that Earth’s magnetic field won’t flip anytime soon. On the contrary, it seems that the weakening intensity that has been observed by scientists in the last few centuries is its way to recover after an unusual high.

The study published in the National Academy of Science’s Proceedings claims that the current intensity of our magnetic field has been 40 percent higher in the last few hundred years than it was in the past five million years

The reason: Earth’s magnetic field is becoming gradually weaker, and this affects how the solar wind — charged particles from the sun — bounces off it.

In time, the aurora could reach as far as the southern United States.

“The Earth’s magnetic field more or less keeps the solar wind at bay, and it’s the solar wind interacting with the field that contributes to the auroras,” said Dennis Kent, an expert in paleomagnetism at Columbia University’s Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory.

“With a strong field, that interaction is pushed to high latitudes. With a weaker field more of the Earth is bathed in these charged particles.

With a weakened geomagnetic field, increased solar radiation might damage electronics—from individual pacemakers to entire power grids—and could induce genetic mutations. A reversal may also affect the navigation of animals that use Earth’s magnetic field as an internal compass.

But according to a new Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) study in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, the geomagnetic field is not in danger of flipping anytime soon: The researchers calculated Earth’s average, stable field intensity over the last 5 million years, and found that today’s intensity is about twice that of the historical average.

This indicates that the current field intensity has a long way to fall before reaching an unstable level that would lead to a reversal.

“It makes a huge difference, knowing if today’s field is a long-term average or is way above the long-term average,” says lead author Huapei Wang, a postdoc in MIT’s Dept. of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences. “Now we know we are way above the unstable zone. Even if the [field intensity] is dropping, we still have a long buffer that we can comfortably rely on.”

“So a consequence would be that the aurora would be visible at lower latitudes.” The same is expected with the southern lights.

Kent does not count on living long enough to see the changes, “but I expect my grandson will. He’s six.”

And even today’s adults may see some progression, such as brighter or more common displays of the aurora in places like Ottawa, where it is already visible from time to time.

Kent is a co-author of a paper just published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS), a major research journal.

The paper looks at how Earth’s magnetic field is weakening, and suggests it has been abnormally high but is now retreating toward the long-term average. The field has weakened by about 10 per cent in the past two centuries.

But there’s a more important reason to study this, beyond knowing when the sky will be pretty. The magnetic field occasionally “flips” and reverses our planet’s north and south poles.

It has done this hundreds of times in the past 100 million years, most recently about 780,000 years ago. During the current weakening, some scientists have been expecting it to become unstable and flip again.That’s unlikely for now, Kent’s team says. They estimate that the current field, despite weakening, is still stronger than the long-term average, leaving plenty of room for change without becoming unstable.

They have been able to determine that the intensity of the magnetic field had been weaker during the past 5 million years than it is today but also that its poles inverted several times.Researchers argue that even if the intensity of Earth’s magnetic field is decreasing, it hasn’t even reached its long-term historical value yet. So there is nothing to worry about or at least not during our lifetime.

However, in the last 100 million years, the magnetic poles have reversed for hundreds of times. It is believed that the most recent reversal happened 780,000 years ago.Some scientists are wondering if the past switches of the magnetic poles had anything to do with the extinction of some species.

A flip of the magnetic field in the near future could have a negative impact on our technology, being able to take down our electrical grid.

Earth scientists can chart past changes by looking at volcanic rock. As lava cools, iron-bearing minerals in it solidify and act like tiny magnets, aligning with the Earth’s magnetic field. By knowing the age of the rock, a scientist can determine which way the magnetic field was oriented and how strong it was when the rock formed, and how strong the magnetic field was.
Far from zero

So why have scientists assumed that Earth’s geomagnetic field is dropping to a precipitous low? It turns out this assumption is based on flawed historical data, Wang says.

Scientists have estimated paleomagnetic intensities at various latitudes around the Earth, but Wang’s is the first data from equatorial regions. However, Wang found that scientists were misinterpreting how rocks recorded their magnetic fields, leading to inaccurate estimates of paleomagnetic intensity. Specifically, scientists were assuming that as individual ferromagnetic grains of rocks cooled, their unpaired electron spins assumed a uniform orientation, reflecting the magnetic field intensity.

However, this effect only holds true up to a certain size. In larger grains, unpaired electron spins assume various orientations in different domains of the grain, thereby complicating the field intensity picture.

Wang developed a method to correct for such multidomain effects, and applied the method to his Galapagos lavas. The results, he says, are more reliable than previous estimates of the paleomagnetic field.

http://www.albanydailystar.com/science/earths-magnetic-shield-is-weakening-spokane-tech-time-11769.html

So now, my question is "How much does the Earth's magnetic field have to weaken to no longer support the world's electricity grids?"

And since "magnetic field" seems to be the word for the day, here's what's on spaceweather today:


EARTH'S MAGNETIC FIELD IS CHANGING: Anyone watching a compass needle point steadily north might suppose that Earth's magnetic field is a constant. It's not. Researchers have long known that changes are afoot. The north magnetic pole routinely moves, as much as 40 km/yr, causing compass needles to drift over time. Moreover, the global magnetic field has weakened 10% since the 19th century.

A new study by the European Space Agency's constellation of Swarm satellites reveals that changes may be happening even faster than previously thought. In this map, blue depicts where Earth's magnetic field is weak and red shows regions where it is strong:

http://spaceweather.com/images2016/11may16/swarm_strip2.png

Data from Swarm, combined with observations from the CHAMP and Ørsted satellites, show clearly that the field has weakened by about 3.5% at high latitudes over North America, while it has strengthened about 2% over Asia. The region where the field is at its weakest – the South Atlantic Anomaly – has moved steadily westward and weakened further by about 2%. These changes have occured over the relatively brief period between 1999 and mid-2016.

Earth's magnetic field protects us from solar storms and cosmic rays. Less magnetism means more radiation can penetrate our planet's atmosphere. Indeed, high altitude balloons launched by Spaceweather.com routinely detect increasing levels of cosmic rays over California. Perhaps the ebbing magnetic field over North America contributes to that trend.

As remarkable as these changes sound, they're mild compared to what Earth's magnetic field has done in the past. Sometimes the field completely flips, with north and the south poles swapping places. Such reversals, recorded in the magnetism of ancient rocks, are unpredictable. They come at irregular intervals averaging about 300,000 years; the last one was 780,000 years ago. Are we overdue for another? No one knows.

Swarm is a trio of satellites equipped with vector magnetometers capable of sensing Earth's magnetic field all the way from orbital altitudes down to the edge of our planet's core. The constellation is expected to continue operations at least until 2017, and possibly beyond, so stay tuned for updates.

Here's the link referred to in the above snippet:

http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Observing_the_Earth/Swarm/Earth_s_magnetic_heartbeat

[Nick Matkin]

Thanks for those MorningSong. The first one seems particularly detailed and will upset the polar-flip fear-porn merchants I fear! But they'll find woo-woo stuff to keep them going no doubt.

As to your question "How much does the Earth's magnetic field have to weaken to no longer support the world's electricity grids?", well as the article you posted states, it's not really declining very rapidly. But I guess you mean if it continues to weaken, and space weather has more and more influence on the earth's magnetic field, will the buffeting be more likely to upset the electricity distribution grid?

Well I'm sure we could have a grid without the earth's magnetic field (providing we were still here!) since the its generation relies on man's ability to generate it. Maybe a weaker field would have less negative influence on the grid during bad space weather.

[Fairy Friend]

We also use ice cores and 10Be for analyzing cosmic rays in the past and 14C and tree rings for checking into past solar activity.

http://m.pnas.org/content/109/16/5967.full

As an accomplished scientist I tend to ignore mainstream science, mainstream media, mainstream alternative media and the mainstream average joe. They rarely provide answers. They are not world changers and those who are, are not mainstream. True Ben Davidson does get melodramatic at times but here in the US we have drama teachers.....drama teachers.... Need I say more.

[Fairy Friend]

Mh-46gzXFDQ From SO. Interesting timing. At the 2:10 mark.

https://www.sott.net/article/317980-Unsolved-Russian-scientists-reveal-Earths-magnetism-is-more-mysterious-than-ever

http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/ngeo2709.html

[ThePythonicCow]

... enters the "Electric Universe"!
The following doesn't really fit on this thread very well, but didn't seem worth its own thread.

It does touch on both "weather" and on the "Electric Universe" however, so might be of interest to those who might notice this thread.

In the following video, from EU2017 (Electric Universe 2017), Gerald Pollack explains several weather phenomenon, such as clouds (why do they float, not fall?), evaporation, rain, storms, fronts, etc using ideas familiar to those following the Electric Universe work and Pollack's EZ (fourth-phase) water research.

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It provides a quite enjoyable hour's listen, if you'd like an explanation of the weather that makes a lot more sense, to me at least, than what I was taught in school.