Depressing survey results show how extremely stupid America has become

[Frankie Pancakes]

Honestly I am not the brightest bulb in the marquee. But...It is obvious that education has been hijacked over the years as evidenced in the link below. There will be a lot of heavy lifting to get us all to the next level.

https://www.sott.net/article/315783-A-sign-of-the-times-Depressing-survey-results-show-how-extremely-stupid-America-has-become

[Bill Ryan]

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There are some hilarious YouTube videos showcasing members of the American public, stopped in the street on camera, offering answers to simple general knowledge questions that almost defy belief.

(From memory: like not knowing how many points a triangle has, not knowing how many Eiffel Towers there are, not knowing how many letters there are in the alphabet, and placing Iraq in Australia on a world map)

Of course, these have been filtered for their astonishing answers, but some of the answers are still astonishing!

[Satori]

In your view, is this unique to America? Or are populations of other countries also being dumbed down?

[Hip Hipnotist]

Other countries/populations are not immune to 'being dumbed down'.

It's just that here in America being stupid/dumbed down is considered 'normal'. ;-(

[M-Albion-3D]

I was born and brought up in the UK so I received an "English education" for whatever that is worth. Now I live in LA and have since from the age of 21, so I've had a good opportunity to get a sense of similar age groups from when I arrived.


From my experience, Americans are quite smart I have to say right across the board except in two subjects, history and geography. The rest of the civilized world in these subjects, are in a different league. Over the years I have tried to ascertain just why this is, as these two subjects seem to have been deliberately diminished almost to the point of being removed from school curriculums. The results have produced generally "non worldly" Americans I'm saddened to say.


For example. A few years back, I was in Arizona staying with my in-laws and the rest of the "greater family" were present. We were playing a sort of trivial pursuit game on the TV screen (can't remember the name) and...a picture of the world was shown "flattened out" where the continents of South America and Africa had been switched. The question was, is there anything wrong with this picture? Everyone looked hard and not one person could see the switch! I was aghast.....but there you are.

[onawah]

It's not just the poor quality of education though, of course.
It's also fluoridation, chemtrials, GMOs, junk food, vaccines, HAARP, cell phones and towers, etc. etc.
We all know this list of mind-numbing, genocidal tactics on the part of TPTB.
It's a wonder we can focus at all!

[shaberon]

From my experience, Americans are quite smart I have to say right across the board except in two subjects, history and geography. The rest of the civilized world in these subjects, are in a different league. Over the years I have tried to ascertain just why this is, as these two subjects seem to have been deliberately diminished almost to the point of being removed from school curriculums. The results have produced generally "non worldly" Americans I'm saddened to say.


I think this has a lot to do with it being a relatively brand-new country, and therefor it was pretty easy to make up a bunch of national myths and disconnect it from the rest of the world. It inflates self-importance and perpetuates a view of the inferiority of others.

Not that great at math either right? When I took calculus, I heard that most other countries start it around 6th grade.

[Matt P]

Yes, I'm sure some truth to this...but...this is all that Michael Snyder EVER writes about. Negative, worst-case-scenario, make you feel stupid kind of "journalism." I simply refuse to read anything this man ever writes because it is always tainted with the absolute worst energy and expectation. You can always find stupid people if you look for them but rarely do we see attempts to find the smart ones. Michael Snyder never does and represents close to the worst of what humanity has to offer.

Matt

[East Sun]

I did not have the privilege of a good education, it was just somewhat different. I was a teenager in the 60's and influenced by US movies and t v. so I can see the vast difference between then and now.
Project Avalon members have 'inside' info, so to speak, so I think I can speak openly. I read recently, 'somewhere' that we are being purposely made obese through diet, of course. It's almost obvious, to me.
I am grieved to the extreme by what is being done to the American people. My family do not listen to me, so I stopped even talking about what I have observed in the past decades. And I know it's not just here in the US that we are being bombarded by chem trails etc. but I feel ar a loss as to what can be done to make things better for the ones who don't have the time to stop and wonder what's going on.
Trying to reach the masses seems insurmountable but eventually we hope to change the the process to a positive timeline.

We hope..............

[Jhonie]

Sure is accentuating the negative. How about 90% do know, 80% do know, etc.?

[Justplain]

Most of the Americans I have met are decent and intelligent people, so a biased journalist who only shows the ignorant ones is no less corrupt than the corporate owned fascist manstream media parrots.

When Yogananda first arrived in America almost a century ago he had an endless schedule of packed meeting halls of those who wanted to hear his message on self realization. Yogananda was groomed from childhood by god-conscious gurus to be a messenger to the west, in general, and America, in particular, because there was, and is, a population who live there who are worthy to receive and comprehend the message. The USA may have its troubles, and its evil people, but it also has a vast spiritual group that may help us out of this mess. Perhaps they should be given a little more respect.

[ponda]

If a nation state was going to be used as a type of global enforcer for geopolitical purposes then it would make sense to keep the 'voting' public of that nation state ignorant in geography and world history.

[M-Albion-3D]

If a nation state was going to be used as a type of global enforcer for geopolitical purposes then it would make sense to keep the 'voting' public of that nation state ignorant in geography and world history.

I do agree. Understanding history is critical to depth of character. It is far more than just "events" of the past, it also teaches the "workings" of the passage of time. As a consequence, the human mind is taught hows' and wherefores of "social change" and how the passage of time affects the culture in which we live. Without this, a people will tend to live primarily in the present, somewhat flippant towards the consequences of one's actions.

It has been rightfully observed I think, that the old world, mainly Europe, educates it's generations to move in a circular "revisiting" fashion, forever repeating, conversely, the US education moves predominantly linear into the future.

An educated American population in these subjects, would perhaps, set this momentum backwards.

So in many ways, this pioneering American mindset, as simple as it may be, has a significant role to play in the evolution of modern human culture I believe.

[KiwiElf]

And I bet they all know how to use a "smart" phone LOL:sun:

[sandy]

It seems to be that the dumbing down of humanity has been going on for centuries and thus the older the inhabited territories, the longer the ignorance of what is .......pointing fingers at one country is decisive at best and somewhat arrogant to say the least! My 2 cents worth on this topic............:behindsofa:

[ponda]

It seems to be that the dumbing down of humanity has been going on for centuries and thus the older inhabited terrotories, the longer the ignorance of what is .......pointing fingers at one country is decisive at best and somewhat arrogant to say the least! My 2 cents worth on this topic............:behindsofa:

Yeah the manufacturing of consent, manipulation, chemical dumbing down process and distraction of the masses is global. Imho these processes are tweaked according to which part of the globe they take place in and/or what the local/global agenda is.

[shaberon]

A lack of formal education is not dumb; having one and not being able to learn the basic lessons, is.

Here we have the dual engineering of weakening the mind & body on a biological basis, as well as the purposeful design of the curriculum, which is pretty weak on history and math. On the other hand, if you spend enough money with a good university, you will get good grades, without necessarily earning them. What we have is a huge pile of wasted potential.

I remember one time in the 8th grade, our assistant principal stood on top of a cafeteria table and gave a speech. Well, he was yelling, but trying to make a point. He told us that we were so stupid and lazy, that one day the Communists were going to take over from within, without firing a shot. No one seemed to have informed him that we had already been taken over this way and the engineering had long been established. That was 30 years ago (same people that clobbered us with something like a boat oar). I think he did that because one of the kids took the counselor lady's prosthetic leg and threw it to the end of the hall.

[CurEus]

The deliberate dumbing down of America

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69HqxE74P5w

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69HqxE74P5w)Charlotte Iserbyt - The Secret History of Western Education

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr-aEtJVVdk
Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt served as the head of policy at the Department of Education during the first administration of Ronald Reagan. While working there she discovered a long term strategic plan by the tax exempt foundations to transform America from a nation of rugged individualists and problem solvers to a country of servile, brainwashed minions who simply regurgitate whatever they're told.


(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69HqxE74P5w)

[Sequoia]

From my experience, Americans are quite smart I have to say right across the board except in two subjects, history and geography.

I have pondered the same, and the only explanation I could come up with as to why this is so, is multi-leveled but wrapped pretty well in "if you don't know where you come from you don't know where you're going", for not knowing your roots and history (which today is solely focused on military history of the world), makes you the best target for manipulation and brainwashing, so you do become the obedient sheep and keep repeating everything you are told to do, without ever questioning and, without learning anything of the wisdom of the past.

[Pam]

I was born and brought up in the UK so I received an "English education" for whatever that is worth. Now I live in LA and have since from the age of 21, so I've had a good opportunity to get a sense of similar age groups from when I arrived.


From my experience, Americans are quite smart I have to say right across the board except in two subjects, history and geography. The rest of the civilized world in these subjects, are in a different league. Over the years I have tried to ascertain just why this is, as these two subjects seem to have been deliberately diminished almost to the point of being removed from school curriculums. The results have produced generally "non worldly" Americans I'm saddened to say.


For example. A few years back, I was in Arizona staying with my in-laws and the rest of the "greater family" were present. We were playing a sort of trivial pursuit game on the TV screen (can't remember the name) and...a picture of the world was shown "flattened out" where the continents of South America and Africa had been switched. The question was, is there anything wrong with this picture? Everyone looked hard and not one person could see the switch! I was aghast.....but there you are.



I can't help but wonder if some of the geographical dumbness in the US is the effect of the extreme nationalism that we are indoctrinated into. The belief that we are so important, no other countries are worthy of our interest? There is this sort of us vs them mentality, that has always been prevalent.

[Star Tsar]

It's not just the poor quality of education though, of course.
It's also fluoridation, chemtrials, GMOs, junk food, vaccines, HAARP, cell phones and towers, etc. etc.


Dearest Onawah you left out Apathy!
Its the worst thing to my mind & possibly most damaging.

(although you did type etc etc)

[Sequoia]

"Isolationism" makes control of 300M people easier

[Ted]

A common misperception among many people is that their education stops when they finish school. I don't blame them in one respect as school can be quite boring and tedious. Mind numbing describes it well.
Fortunately, my mother encouraged me to read books at a young age which is where my valuable education came from. I have a PHD in book reading.

[Heartsong]

It's easy to say that 99.9% of the population is "dumb" because they don't play the violin. Or 99% of the population is dumb because they don't speak German. What's dumb anyway? One hundred and fifty years ago I would have been dumb if I couldn't ride a horse!

[shaberon]

Good point Heartsong. We should *probably* be able to raise all the animals, build all our buildings, maintain our vehicles, and become adept at everything in the "Off-grid" forum.

It's not going to work too well if people go through classes and can't remember how many points in a triangle. I would say it's dumb to be unable to retain experiences and mentally process them, aside from the question of what those experiences actually are.

[Foxie Loxie]

Interesting to read all these posts! Personally, I think it all goes back to what a child is raised in & taught to believe. If his or her life is going calmly along, it's not likely he or she would have to explore outside the "bubble" of personally known existence.

[Hervé]

George Carlin take on it:



"Think of how stupid the average person is...


... and realize half of them are stupider than that."

[kirolak]

omd!! hAHAHAHA!:handshake:

[AriG]

I am offended by the singling out of the American populace. Trust me, there is plenty of stupid all over the world. I would bet my good ole American "edumucation" against that which my Oxford educated husband received in the UK! He, surprisingly, at 40 years old, didn't know what a soliloquy was (or maybe he had forgotten). Wasn't like he hailed from the land of the Bard or anything. I strongly suspect that the same results obtained from this study would be duplicated world wide. Yes, there are a lot of reasons to dislike and distrust the US, but let's remember that the decisions of the PTB of a nation is no reason to disparage the people of said nation.

[AriG]

If a nation state was going to be used as a type of global enforcer for geopolitical purposes then it would make sense to keep the 'voting' public of that nation state ignorant in geography and world history.

I do agree. Understanding history is critical to depth of character. It is far more than just "events" of the past, it also teaches the "workings" of the passage of time. As a consequence, the human mind is taught hows' and wherefores of "social change" and how the passage of time affects the culture in which we live. Without this, a people will tend to live primarily in the present, somewhat flippant towards the consequences of one's actions.

It has been rightfully observed I think, that the old world, mainly Europe, educates it's generations to move in a circular "revisiting" fashion, forever repeating, conversely, the US education moves predominantly linear into the future.

An educated American population in these subjects, would perhaps, set this momentum backwards.

So in many ways, this pioneering American mindset, as simple as it may be, has a significant role to play in the evolution of modern human culture I believe.

You have absolutely hit the nail on the head! Kudos! I have the good (or not) fortune to be from one of the originator families in the US (Davenport/York line) and also the perspective of being married to an English expat. The US mindset is that of "can do", regardless of one's background. It is understood here, that with the right investment of energy, one can accomplish anything. Comparatively, the English mindset of "how dare you try to better yourself" permeates the culture and keeps the population under its thumb through mass insecurity. Perhaps the same reason that ISIS is destroying the relics of ancient Iraq and Syria. Paying homage to the trappings of the past can indeed, undermine a culture's ability to grow. And in the US, being the grand experiment that it is with an amalgam of races, cultures, creeds, philosophies, ideologies and religions, it is no surprise that some are not educated. It is a microcosm of the world at large. Ignorance and all.

[Wind]

It's really easy to be hypnotized and just be "living the dream" on an autopilot mode (hypnotized). It's not just the americans although no doubt those massive amounts of that chemical crap there is messing up the whole endocrine system of the people. Then add the TV with the talking Fox-heads and your brain becomes like a mush if you just go a long believing what you are told. Not so many chemicals here in Europe even if we too have our share of them and chemtrails.

Is critical thinking (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTLkiJUX05A) being taught in schools? No! At least not here. It's maybe one of the most important skills in life. If you lack the skill of discernment then you can be really easily swayed. Most people want to believe that ultimately we are being taken care of by our leaders who are like big mommy and daddy, which is ultimately a very flawed and dangerous idea. Yet that's exactly what is being counted on... After all of us here are just rambling nutters, at least that's the way we are seen by the masses. It might take something painful (http://communicate.eckharttolle.com/news/2016/04/21/is-awakening-a-gradual-process-or-is-there-also-a-sudden-spontaneous-shift/) to shatter the illusion. The truth isn't always nice and it may even be scary, but it's much better than the illusion.

[happyuk]

I would take any survey with a huge pinch of salt - there are dumb people everywhere. A preponderance of sneery journalism does not help, grumbling inanities about America and Americans, all the while knowing nothing about American culture.

Coming from Irish ancestry I have never had the same hang-up about Americans that a lot of Little Englanders seem to have.

The intellectuals are the worst, clinging to the idea that not being American somehow gives you some kind of an edge. It's an unpleasant and hypocritical attitude among some British and Europeans that persists to this day - that we're better than you.

[East Sun]

It's by design that we are being systematically dumbed down by the so called 'powers' that we are defeating. It's no wonder that innocent unsuspecting good people are being blasted from all sides by 'them' the bastards.

They are going down, make no mistake about it. It's just a matter of time.
Right now, it seems that everything is against us, but just wait.

It won't be long now...............

[Sequoia]

There's no reason for any American to take the thread personally, especially since you are here on this forum :). The survey was done/written about 'Americans', hence the discussion and sharing of everyone's own observations, please just consider it being "delightfully politically incorrect" in a world of conformist where too many are on psychotropic/mood-altering drugs (fact that can't be denied) spending time in front of TV which existed in every American household since 1960.

Couple of years ago Mark Passio talked about "re-education of the masses according to Rockefeller" and the monopoly on book publishing houses after WWII, including school books upto university level, it's on YT if you're interested..

I think there was a reason why "Fahrenheit 451" was published only few years after "1984", as a warning of a totalitarian dystopian society, unless people pay attention to what is really going on, wake up and see that the world is not what we were taught in schools.

[Sean]

I'm a high-school grad, and a college drop-out.

But I read, and understand books on physics like others read comic books.

It's pretty clear that the American education system is deliberately dumbing down the people. In the days of slavery, a slave would be beaten if caught with a book. If slaves got smart, the thinking was, they would not be obedient. they would run away. Same thinking here, applied to everyone, now. Have you guys actually looked around at people, going about their life, day to day? They're ZOMBIES. Moving slow, looking at their phone slavishly, a blank, vacant look on their faces. No one home.

I honestly think its a combo of all the chemtrails, pharmaceuticals in the food/water, and straight-up psychotronic warfare on the people. what I can't figure out is why I, and many others, are unaffected.

[shaberon]

Hrm. I dropped out of high school, and graduated college. Didn't realize you could do it the other way round.

Critical Thinking was probably the single most important course I took. And half of it was how to critically think about yourself--lots of red ink peer review there. It should not be holed up as a college elective, should be mandatory in high school.

Too often I find no one home amongst the educated, alert adults. There's...something...there, but not what I would call a fully developed person. Whereas, honestly, no one I've talked to from say Germany or China is like that.

Just one small German example: "I trust that you've had your lunch?" I don't think that any American has ever said something like that to me; and I just kind of swallowed the truth, which was: Of course not, here in America we are such faithful workers that we do not stop to eat.

The reason I'm not affected by the "syndrome" is: refusal. I have a ton of problems, but it's a different kind of problems from refusing the majority of what goes around.

[Nick Matkin]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kqaDFyt_cV8/UiUcxvl9-JI/AAAAAAAAWg4/UNTyKTjznD0/s1600/Stupid+People.jpg

[ozmirage]

STUPIDITY AND INSANITY MUST BE TAUGHT
...
As a victim of the world’s greatest propaganda ministry, I’ve often wondered how much stupidity and insanity are the result of the pervasive programming we suffer.

Consider that Americans are constantly told that we’re free, we’re in the richest nation, that everyone admires us, and yet we can see for ourselves that such a belief is untrue. How far from the truth that is !

We live in a rigid society, constrained by money madness, usury, and where that which is not mandatory, taxed or licensed, is forbidden. Our cities and infrastructure are eroding. People in other nations dislike our government for its military misadventures and worldwide military bases upon their soil. (Would you like to have a foreign military base in YOUR hometown?)

What was once endowed rights, have become licensed privileges, under the authority of the government that was once the servant, but is now the master. The combined “take” by local, state and federal governments is roughly 44% of the GDP. Does it sound like “freedom” to labor for the benefit of government for over 4 tenths of a year? Egyptian serfs under Pharaoh had a better deal (one part in five - 20%).

To compound the problem, the socialist - usurer alliance is incompetent and destructive. Usury is behind the financial collapse and socialist slavery is behind the cultural collapse. No civilization can endure when it penalizes its productive people and rewards its nonproductive people. Anyone with half a brain wants to get on the “Gravy Train.” Unfortunately, prosperity depends on productive people - not wealth or its concentration. Our cultured insanity shows up in our media’s admiration of indolent, bored affluent consumers, who produce nothing as their contribution to the world and civilization.

We must be made barking mad and stupid to endure this without lashing out.

[genevieve]

Arf! Arf!

:)

[sleepydumpling]

I personally do not think it's fair to single out one country, here in Britain its just as bad.
some people I know mainly ones in their teens or early twenties and some older say some astounding things.
One young lad I work with comes out with some crazy ones that just make you laugh.some examples
he thought the Hunchback of Notre Dame was called The Hunchback of Rotterdam
also the famous painter who cut his ear off Jean Claude Van Damme instead of Vincent van gogh.
There are lots more by all ages so it is not just America.
I think we can all say stupid things every now and again I know I do although not in the same class as
the ones I have wrote above

[M-Albion-3D]

There's no reason for any American to take the thread personally, especially since you are here on this forum :). The survey was done/written about 'Americans', hence the discussion and sharing of everyone's own observations, please just consider it being "delightfully politically incorrect" in a world of conformist where too many are on psychotropic/mood-altering drugs (fact that can't be denied) spending time in front of TV which existed in every American household since 1960.

Couple of years ago Mark Passio talked about "re-education of the masses according to Rockefeller" and the monopoly on book publishing houses after WWII, including school books upto university level, it's on YT if you're interested..

I think there was a reason why "Fahrenheit 451" was published only few years after "1984", as a warning of a totalitarian dystopian society, unless people pay attention to what is really going on, wake up and see that the world is not what we were taught in schools.

The question I think we need to be focusing on is; "Has there been a concerted effort by design, to effect "definitive changes in society" both in schooling education and social media, which has resulted negatively in the capability of the people to respond independently and intelligently against the actions of the governing power elite?

Or commonly known as; "Dumbing Down".

Towards the end of the sixties, the Cabal backed US Government realized that it had lost the war in Vietnam due to the popular uprising of the American people who said NO...enough is enough. Since that time, the US population as been educated and governed differently by subliminal brainwashing methods primarily through the use of television and later on, movie production. Although these are not the only means.

Religious church gatherings have also been infiltrated as well as the scientific institutions where normal breakthroughs in new discoveries have been stifled allowing control over the energy and monetary systems.

In the movie "The Lottery of Birth" we get a glimpse of the responsible parties involved, eloquently outlined by the late Howard Zinn et al.

A segment from the movie on Education available here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B--tam0uh-oiQmJKaGZxWEZ3X1U/view?usp=sharing

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a528/marsevidence01/Capture_zpsxfpbxahc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/marsevidence01/media/Capture_zpsxfpbxahc.jpg.html)

Link to .PDF "A Crisis of Democracy" - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B--tam0uh-oiVm56VHQxalRnRjA/view?usp=sharing

[risveglio]

You don't need a survey. Just look at how many idiots support Sanders, Trump, and Clinton. No survey needed.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Just had to share this. Pure, 100%, unmitigated...

:facepalm:

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