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Vektor
4th May 2016, 23:16
Some would say there are several planes of existance.

Physical plane: The densest of the seven planes; where we presently reside.

Astral plane: The second plane of creation. Its medium is concrete emotional energy. It is where our consciousness is focused between lifetimes and when we're finished with the physical plane.

Causal plane: The third plane of creation. Its medium is concrete intellectual energy.

Akashic plane: The central, neutral plane of creation that interconnects the other six. The distilled knowledge of the universe is recorded there. This is the records generated of everything that happens in the universe as it occurs. T

Mental plane: The fifth plane of creation. Its medium is abstract intellectual energy, emphasizing truth. The infinite soul who incarnated as Lao-tzu taught from this plane.

Messianic plane: The sixth plane of creation. Its medium is abstract emotional energy, emphasizing love. The infinite soul who incarnated as Jesus taught from this plane.

Buddhaic plane: The highest plane of creation.

What are your opinions on this? It is for certain that we are building our knowledge and our energy.

Michelle Marie
5th May 2016, 00:13
Yes. I just read something about the seven planes, termed differently, but the same in essence. It named the archangel plane higher than the angel plane. The book is not here with me, so I can't be specific. I know I telepathically connect with other planes in meditation/contemplation.

Lots of love,
Michelle Marie

DeDukshyn
5th May 2016, 03:30
I wrote a long and well thought out post for this thread, but then my browser did something weird and I lost it. I might try to write it out again at a later time.

soul
5th May 2016, 04:07
I never understood totally what they meant by 7 planes. The probably best description of what it is (from many, many books) is in "Fourteen Lessons in Yogi Philosophy and Oriental Occultism". It's on amazon for 1$ but you can surely find some free pdf.

I was really surprised by described model of mind, it explained a lot.

shaberon
5th May 2016, 04:09
I think it is the right general approach, but in the reverse order. I would not call the highest two "of creation", but uncreated. The second being the one and only infinite soul. Mental sounds correct for the third plane. Atma Buddhi Manas for the higher three in Sanskrit terms.

The lower four consist of the human personality as we know ourselves and where consciousness generally resides. We attempt to direct our consciousness to the higher mental plane instead of down into these realms where it flows by default. Instead of Akashic and Causal, Kama Manas and Prana.

I see them all from the point of view of the mind, and not really as places to go as if we are physically traveling. One could think of the Egyptian "seven souls": seven layers or components of the mind, from the brain to mystery; the "planes" are just the perceptions occurring as the mind/soul is active in a given part of itself; states of mind if you will.

Astral is the most familiar, containing a blueprint of everything physical, which is why a near death experience or some "projections" can witness the physical world. There is more to it, experienced through dreams, projections, and after death. But "dreamless sleep" is higher than dreaming.

Oh, and if you can take solid, liquid, and gas states of matter as being part of the "sub-planes" of the physical world, then the analogy continues: the "solid" part of the astral plane being the blueprint for the physical.

WhiteLove
5th May 2016, 14:11
Can't say for sure, but from the OOTB experience I've had in dream, my level of awareness did rise far beyond the fourth density peace plane, and it appeared to me there are an infinite amount of higher planes of existence beyond the peace plane, each holding a higher fundamental frequency of absolute unconditional love. It is like an onion, each layer on top of the other is a realm and the closer to the center you get, the less limited your awareness of absolute unconditional love is. The fourth plane is a love peace and truth plane, it is what we as humans define as "true love", because we don't know any greater being, everything else is currently beyond our awareness. But the human imagination of true love is an incredibly limited representation of the absolute unconditional love in creation. So what happens is that with each higher realm that truth is unlocked more, unlimited more, it is kind of an infinite re-definition of what absolute unconditional love is. So at earth we think it is X, at the peace realm we think it is Y and so on. At each higher realm, there is still infinite more love "left to be experienced", infinite more love to "hold" in "being". Because creation does not exhaust ever. In the peace plane I experienced peeking at my most precise, most true definition and perspective of happiness. I felt complete, I was complete - I thought. But then God stepped in and gave me the perspective - by allowing me to experience the difference... At that point I went beyond what we as humans are capable of imagining - even at fourth density... It is like the awareness can contract down to earth perception and expand into infinite love. In between these energy states, there is an infinite frequency range, each frequency being the fundamental of a unique realm in creation. But there is more to it, stuff that is beyond my current perspective. For instance, there could be planes of existence where you are able to be not only yourself as a discrete being inside of a human body, but yourself and the people around you as well at the same time, giving you an instant reflection of you in the realm, constantly new perspectives of you in creation. For instance being the collective soul of a number of human souls. At that point your intelligence and your being is living the beings of those souls together with others at that level. So hence at that level not only can you experience what it feels like to be yourself in a single body, but what the combination of humans interacting feels like - the true emotional exchange - you are in being the unified emotions between the two. So for instance, you might be the "over soul" of two soul mates trying to find each other in creation. You know what each goes true, you know how much they want to find each other and you know how close they sometimes are to finding each other. You feel the truth of their emotional exchange when they bump into each other without knowing they are soulmates and you and your own collective over soul at that level help to arrange so that they will eventually find each other. I do find it is possible that our earth has a collective over soul of all souls on earth. It experiences the unified emotions of all beings on earth and is in being together with other beings at that level, for instance it might seek its soul mate at that level and be connected to an oversoul representing the collective oversouls of a set of planets. That could for instance be the spirit of the sun.

pueblo
5th May 2016, 16:45
I see them all from the point of view of the mind, and not really as places to go as if we are physically traveling. .

Just on this point of the 'location' of the planes, my understanding is that they exist one on top of the other, like onion layers, so in effect they are 'here' all around us.

samildamach
5th May 2016, 17:48
Thank you for posting white love that really resonated with me deep down,that sought of feeling when something feels so very right and clear

conk
5th May 2016, 18:07
I see them all from the point of view of the mind, and not really as places to go as if we are physically traveling. .

Just on this point of the 'location' of the planes, my understanding is that they exist one on top of the other, like onion layers, so in effect they are 'here' all around us.
Exactly, they are simply different frequencies of energy beyond our ability to witness with our limited senses. Our awareness and senses can detect only a tiny fraction of the wide electromagnetic spectrum. Some believe that the field of potential from which all things arise is a unique energy or vast consciousness that is something completely different than energies on that spectrum. God if you like, certainly some power or energy way beyond our meager comprehension.

Edit: Sorry, white love said it more eloquently, succinctly, and romantically than I did. ;)

shaberon
5th May 2016, 18:15
Just on this point of the 'location' of the planes, my understanding is that they exist one on top of the other, like onion layers, so in effect they are 'here' all around us.

Certainly. I exited from the higher planes, in my mind, only. That was the easy part. Getting back "through" the inner monologue, memories, wishes, and sea of thought forms, is a different story.

Where is here?

You are at the center of the universe, which extends endlessly in all directions, and you cannot leave that position. So am I. So would be someone in the most distant galaxy. Apparent motion is just a changing condition of the mind in the lower planes.