Transition into Trump

[Daozen]

I can't wait till our_man_on_the_inside, Trump... our simple boy from Queens, takes his Oath of Office (https://tabu4all.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/jesuit-oath.jpg)

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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Dt7q-PGGntY/maxresdefault.jpg

http://www.reformation.org/jesuit-oath.html

[turiya]

Dream on, Daozen... perhaps you may have been reading a bit too much reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/RomeRules/comments/3g7zgf/donald_trump_secret_jesuit_agent_for/) Here's an article...


IrishCentral
Is Donald Trump secretly part of a Jesuit plot to take over America? (http://www.irishcentral.com/news/politics/is-donald-trump-secretly-part-of-a-jesuit-plot-to-take-over-america)
By James O'Shea
@IrishCentral
February 22, 2016

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If you thought the Donald Trump presidential race (http://www.irishcentral.com/news/politics/a-ban-on-donald-trump-entering-ireland-to-be-discussed-by-parliament) was strange to begin with, did you ever think he’s just part of a worldwide Jesuit conspiracy and a secret agent for the St. Ignatius battalions?

That’s the phony baloney claim made on Reddit recently which has since gone to top of the Google search charts and drawn a response from a prominent jesuit in the magazine America.

As a conspiracy theory this knocks Obama born in Kenya into a cocked hat.

But as Father Jim McDermott (http://www.americamagazine.org/users/jim-mcdermott) of America magazine writes, it is one that has clearly gained followers. He writes,

“I know, it’s just one crazy link. Except it’s the one ranked highest by Google.

“It is also not the only post in the top 10 with a similar message. In fact only two of the top ten links about Donald Trump and Jesuit don’t have something to do with the apparent Jesuit-Trump conspiracy that no one has had the courtesy to let me know we are in on. (If you only have time to sample one piece from this magical universe, may I suggest the first few minutes of this YouTube post about why, during the “Jesuit Paris Attacks,” a woman believes Donald Trump got switched out by his clone. It begins “I was watching Fox News this morning.”

It seems where the Donald is concerned no theory is outlandish enough.

The author of the viral reddit post states Donald Trump is a “false flag” candidate, or not what he appears to be and writes:

“Donald Trump has been the subject of media frenzy as of late. It seems that a considerable amount of those who subscribe to alternative sources of information are Trump supporters. They see him as some kind of rebel, going against both the Republican and Democratic parties.

“Could it be though, that Donald Trump is a "false flag candidate" being used to secure the vote of the ever-increasing independent constituency in order to inevitably lull the US into a false sense of positive political novelty and thus to subsequently impose Jesuitical right-wing fascism leading to a nationwide race war as devised by the masters of class adversarialism, the Sons of Loyola?

The article goes on:

“It very well could be. Here is why:

“Trump claims to be Presbyterian, yet he attended Jesuit Fordham University for two years and then transferred to the covertly Jesuit-controlled University of Pennsylvania.

Ah that’s it. Donald attending Fordham University made it clear he was a Jesuit stooge.

There’s also an anti-semitic passage saying the Jews and Jesuits are all in this together--SURPRISE.

He even investigates Trump’s children. At the end the writer concludes:

“There you have it; Trump, in addition to being affiliated with both Jesuit Fordham and covertly Jesuit UPenn, has at least three children who are all alumni of Penn and notorious Jesuit Georgetown University!

“Whether it be Trump, Jeb Bush, Hillary Clinton or even Bernie Sanders that ends up winning the 2016 election, all of these candidates are connected to Rome and all will only serve to implement the tyrannical, neo-Romanist policies of the Papacy and its professed soldiers of the Jesuits.”

I always thought Sanders, who is Jewish was really a secret Jesuit archbishop didn’t you? Bishop Bernie.

Lord, what is the word coming to - Donald Trump a secret Jesuit agent, the pope trying to take over America (he’s a Jesuit too, though he did just accuse Trump of not being Christian, which puts something of a spanner in the works for this plot).

Maybe we can start a new rally cry:

"Vote for Donald Trump’s clone" (let's call him Dolly after the first cloned sheep).

Our slogan? Hello President Dolly, goodbye impostor Donald.

SOURCE (http://www.irishcentral.com/news/politics/is-donald-trump-secretly-part-of-a-jesuit-plot-to-take-over-america)

[Bob]

Agreed Sam -

Rudy Giuliani (former Mayor of NY City) during the 9/11 incident (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Giuliani_during_the_September_11_attacks) was asked by Hannity (Fox news), what about Hillary.. The discussion went well would President Trump pardon her, and the response was hardly likely, however Obama probably would.

Which that thought seem to follow the "fly on the wall" post earlier pondering if Hillary (and her crew, and Bill Clinton) would be pardoned (* note below). (Hypothesizing - Was he told that his "electoral" 'win' was "conditional" based on him not going after Hillary and crew? Dunno, would be interesting to hypothesize on that, considering how the "riots" and/or those behind them are trying to get the Electoral upcoming vote to be "rigged" in favor of the Dems - would he have sat still or walked out? If he was told that but stayed, what was he told which caused him to stay in the meeting for 90 minutes? Like play ball or Hillary is in and you are out...).

Giuliani pointed out also that the Clinton Foundation (probably plural as there are multiple - * note 2 below) is still under a massive investigation.

My read on what I believe I saw and heard: Watching Pres Elect Trump's expression right after the meeting with President Obama was sufficiently revealing to me, that he was "read the rules", was told, who to expect the "assets" are internationally (the enemies list, the black list, the white list), who one can trust or not. It is possible he was told what "pay to play" means, why it is done. It is also possible that he was told about the assets derived from the immense support system which exists to protect the Nation, the members of the Judicial and Legislative branch as well as the extraordinary efforts done for the Executive Branch, specifically the President. I believe he was told, "know who is on your side"..

Also I would assume he was told 'why' certain deals have been made internationally, with a big "Because...", referring to Pres Elect Trump saying he saw where the "rough spots" are. I would assume Pres Elect Trump is contemplating what he was told, by President Obama and also by House Speaker Paul Ryan.

references: assorted news services, live broadcast(s)


@Sam Hunter: (post 999)

Trump's meeting today was supposed to be for 15 minutes yet went an hour and a half.

Also, some "conspiracy theorists" believe Obama was (is) a CIA asset and in fact a CIA creation.

I suspect Trump was brought "up to speed" today with regards to many matters, including the one mentioned in Bob's post.

See Satori's post on Presidential Pardons - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94235-Coup-Against-Hillary-Clinton-Has-Begun-Red-Alert&p=1111727&viewfull=1#post1111727

* (1) - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94235-Coup-Against-Hillary-Clinton-Has-Begun-Red-Alert&p=1111366&viewfull=1#post1111366

* (2) - http://www.truthandaction.org/clintons-chinese-foundation/ (multiple Clinton Foundations, i.e. Hong Kong)

* (2a) - https://www.charitywatch.org/ratings-and-metrics/bill-hillary-chelsea-clinton-foundation/478 - the multiple names of the Clinton Foundation

what are the 'Lists' - examples and discussions and political views/stands:

http://www.npr.org/2012/02/14/146862081/the-history-of-the-fbis-secret-enemies-list
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/03/donald-trump-banned-publications
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/01/hillary-clinton-hit-list-102067
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_list_of_Nixon%27s_political_opponents
http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/communists-in-congress-just-count-em/
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/08/10/obamas_enemies_list_127718.html


terminology "assets" with respect to security
- https://www.dhs.gov/topic/critical-infrastructure-security
- https://www.dhs.gov/critical-infrastructure-resources
- https://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/Physical_Strategy.pdf
(the above points out The Physical Protection of Critical Infrastructures and Key Assets)

[Daozen]

Dear Turiya, perhaps you have been watching too much Infowars.

The article you linked is from Feb 2016. Here's a video of Trump at a Jesuit dinner only *three weeks ago*... in his speech, he claims he's been going to events like that since he was a child.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHDHd99wbP4

The article you linked is out of date. It also uses a disingenuous tactic: saying anyone who's critical of Trump/Jesuits is an anti-semite. Regardless of whether Trump is a Jesuit or not, he's in *someone's* pocket.

I'm going by the facts here. Photographic and video evidence of Trump standing with high ranking Jesuits only 3 weeks ago. I see nothing from your side but willful ignorance and propaganda.

https://eclinik.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/cardinalhillanddon.jpg?w=474&h=424

[turiya]

Dear Turiya, perhaps you have been watching too much Infowars.

The article you linked is from Feb 2016. Here's a video of Trump at a Jesuit dinner only *three weeks ago*... in his speech, he claims he's been going to events like that since he was a child.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHDHd99wbP4

The article you linked is out of date. It also uses a disingenuous tactic: saying anyone who's critical of Trump/Jesuits is an anti-semite. Regardless of whether Trump is a Jesuit or not, he's in *someone's* pocket.

I'm going by the facts here. Photographic and video evidence of Trump standing with high ranking Jesuits only 3 weeks ago. I see nothing from your side but willful ignorance and propaganda.

https://eclinik.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/cardinalhillanddon.jpg?w=474&h=424

The article is up to date as far as the many, many Conspiracy Theories that have been attempted to be found linking Donald Trump to some kind of nefarious 'hidden hand' association. Its been already discounted back in February. So, it seems to me, your implication is a bit outdated, imo.

He was an invited guest to the 71st Annual Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation Dinner (http://www.alsmithfoundation.org/the-dinner/)... meaning there were 70 dinners held before this. Its a kind of traditional thing that takes place every year... This year it was called the

Alfred E. Smith Dinner Gag Writer on Clinton-Trump Roast: "The Rules Don't Apply"
(http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/alfred-e-smith-dinner-gag-940213)

A humorist who has penned jokes for everyone from Michael Dukakis to Al Gore says the key to coming ahead in the Trump-Clinton comedy face-off is to "be self-deprecating."


It began in 1960, when two bitterly opposed presidential hopefuls — Richard Nixon and John F. Kennedy — stopped by to break bread and crack-wise at each other's expense.

Crack-Wise means to make a joke. Its a tradition... go ahead click on it... perhaps, you may learn something... or not...

I've gone over the reason why you folks over in the UK have a difficult time understanding Donald Trump back in Post #130 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90590-TRANSITIONED-into-Trump&p=1078888&viewfull=1#post1078888)... that was back on July 03 2016 - as reposted below... As far as I know, this is the first time you have come onto this thread... so, it seems you are a bit behind the times just popping in for now....


This is Nicola Sturgeon, the Scotish First Minister cnoodling with EU Juncker.

http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag289/mclies2/Sturgeon_001_cnoodlingEU_zpsnh8ese3a.jpg

I wonder how well Sturgeon and Trump will get on. (?)

I get the impression that the Scottish National Party in power in Scotland are arch enemies of Trump. That's a shame. If Nicola Sturgeon wasn't such a mad Europhile, they could have a fantastic alternative to the EU Control Grid Masochism she's running to with her lips pouted.

Hey norman,

Thank you so much for your comment, for it has led me to look into Nicola Sturgeon & what is going on in Scotland. It is quite a well-known fact that Scotland is the home of lots & lots of secret societies. So right-off, since Donald Trump is not a member of any secret society - "he's an outsider, he's not them, he's not part of the club, he's uncontrollable, he hasn't been through the initiation rites, he doesn't belong to the secret society, they have no idea how to relate to him..." - as told by Newt Gingrich on March 3rd 2016. (https://youtu.be/Z8LJVDM9xVc)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8LJVDM9xVc

From the Brexit vote, it appears that most Scots love their slavery - check out what a 'NAMED PERSON' (http://www.gov.scot/Topics/People/Young-People/gettingitright/named-person)is (soon to be implement at the end of August 2016), and Nicola Sturgeon is the leader of this pack - as included within the following video...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IRhO2D7BQI

Nicola Sturgeon, as with most of her associates running for political office, is a NWO globalist. Donald Trump, on the other hand, is an American nationalist. So yeah, the two are on different ends of that spectrum - they will never meet, will never support each other. Its unbelievable what is going on in Scotland, imo.

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As you can see in the following video of Scottish politicians:


"...they have no idea how to relate to him..."--Newt Gingrich



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBOqENxemHE
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Mixed messages on Named Person


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHyAqeKY7O0

[araucaria]

I too noted the grim look on Trump’s face – he clearly has again let himself in for more than he bargained for. He has reached this point through a groundswell of support from an unlikely section of the American people. He is now going to need huge support from somewhere, maybe from the rest of the world, who have also been reading wikileaks and are also getting up to speed on a host of issues.

We can then look at the words “he’s a very good man, very good man.” Given the above circumstances, this is likely to be from the heart; why this might be suggests to me that the riot act was read to him not by an evil overlord in person, but by Obama himself, describing both the coercion and the way his own hands were tied. The difference between the two men is that Obama is being forced to cooperate with Hillary and Co, whereas Trump, who knows he is not his own man, is joining the battle on the other side, with a great deal more clout, I fancy, than Obama ever had.

There is a groundswell of support around the world for whoever is prepared to act upon the new situation. Wikileaks has provided the Disclosure so many were waiting for. It has nothing to do with aliens (so far), but the good news is that we are not held in a totally airtight, monolithic matrix; there is wiggle room enough to get a man into the White House. Spin it as much as you like, that was not the plan.
I just posted a quote by Leonard Cohen who has just died. It seems appropriate here: "Everything has a crack in it. That's how the light gets in.”

Meanwhile, the bad news is that there is a war of a kind going on, in which only one side is doing the killing. This is indeed a planet of choice, of taking sides, but the choice is between war and peace. A method of choosing without descending into warfare is to hold elections. The silent majority “votes with its feet” all the time: they are the “early voters”, the “secure states”, and the vast majority are on the side of peace. How many of 7 billion+ are belligerents? 1%? But the ballot is rigged bigtime: these people are not getting heard at all. We are currently at the stage of awaiting results for the “swing states”. They may be “too close to call” right now, but the thing is that these late results are totally irrelevant once the ballot riggers are exposed. There is only one kind of swinging if that is what they want.

The whole thing is a distraction: the ballot riggers have been exposed, and we are counting the last 1% of votes in a landslide.

Edit to add: The unexpected extended meeting suggests to me that Obama may have jumped the gun, pre-empting the usual procedure reserved for inauguration day. Trump would indeed be truly grateful for the heads-up. And this is the first time such a presidential disclosure has produced visible evidence for all to see on the man’s face.

[norman]

Edit to add: The unexpected extended meeting suggests to me that Obama may have jumped the gun, pre-empting the usual procedure reserved for inauguration day. Trump would indeed be truly grateful for the heads-up. And this is the first time such a presidential disclosure has produced visible evidence for all to see on the man’s face.

It's just possible that Obama is thrilled to bits that Trump won, but that he couldn't possibly express that wish before he actually did, such has been the power of the Clinton machine. He may have become totally disillusioned with the office almost as soon as he got into it 8 years ago.

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[Arcturian108]

For a long time now I have thought that Obama was picked by the C.I.A. from a young age to be a future president of the United States. What I don't understand, however, seeing how he couldn't accomplish his own personal agenda in his first term of office, is why he would even think of running for a second term? Please somebody, enlighten me.

[Cidersomerset]

I thought this item amusing from CIA NN , the spooks reading and
analysing first Trump - Obama meeting yesterday .......

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The body language behind the Obama-Trump meeting

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Published on 11 Nov 2016

President Obama and President-elect Donald Trump praised each other after their
first meeting, but what did their body language say? Expert Janine Driver explains.

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Bernie Sanders says he will work with Donald Trump

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Published on 10 Nov 2016

Sen. Bernie Sanders told CNN's Wolf Blitzer he will work with President-elect
Donald Trump on certain issues.

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Rep. Chris Collins: Obamacare will remain for 2017

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Published on 11 Nov 2016

Rep. Chris Collins (R-New York) discusses President-elect Donald Trump's plan with
Obamacare, stating that the Affordable Care Act will be around for the first year of
Trump's presidency.

[turiya]

This from Bill Still... as you can tell from Bill's title selection what his personal thoughts are on this particular 1st meeting with President Obama... theater for the press-titutes...


SR #1337 PLAYING NICE - President-Elect Donald Trump
Meets With President Obama at White House
(Published on Nov 10, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKTfHmpxP80__________________________

SR 1336 Sean Hannity details
WHY AMERICA CHOSE Donald Trump
(Published on Nov 10, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMP1Vht3mSk__________________________

SR 1339 – U.S. MSM Totally Embarrasses
Itself on President-Elect Donald Trump Demise Prediction
(Published on Nov 10, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcypqVp6WFI__________________________

SR #1340 – Why Are Clinton and Obama
Being so Nicey Nice To Trump?
(Published on Nov 11, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDMS715CjhA

[Cidersomerset]

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World leaders change face after Trump seals POTUS position

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Published on 10 Nov 2016

Around the world, the politicians, journalists and diplomats who branded Donald Trump
as a right-wing racist are backpedaling. Leaders like Boris Johnson, British Secretary of
State for Foreign Affairs, have gone from public statements to the effect that he actively
avoids Trump, Johnson now says he’s eager to work with him. RT’s Polly Boiko has more.

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Judge Jeanine: Trump protestors 'have to be prosecuted'

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Published on 11 Nov 2016
'Justice' host gives her take

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Several commentators have pointed out the obvious that these protestors are
disturbing the lives of their fellow democratic supporters in the main.


Geraldo: Calm down and let the process take its course

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Published on 11 Nov 2016

Fox News roaming correspondent-at-large tells Trump protestors to 'give Trump a
chance' on 'Fox & Friends'

[Cidersomerset]

This is very promising if this interview is anything to go by.......( Infact it sounds
to good to be true ) :drum:...I suggest Listening to it twice he says a lot and lays it
out including Clintons collusion with the global elites and much more.

Trump has said he has been listening to advisors particularly military and geo
political and if he can ignore the neo -con/dems and the global oligarchs.
Maybe we can get rid of these war mongers and this 9/11 , war on terror false flag
operations started after the neo -con coup backed by Bush 1 after the cold war.

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'There was movement towards WWIII with Russia': World awaits Trump's future
policy on Middle East

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Published on 10 Nov 2016


The race is over. Donald Trump is president-elect, defeating HIllary Clinton and
putting a Republican back in the White House. The 2016 election campaign wasn’t
pretty, but it was entertaining. But what's next?

RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air

[Cidersomerset]

They discuss the potential pit falls ahead for Trump and beware of the neo -cons
and powerfull globalist elites.......False flags , Deep state, fear mongering complicit
mainstream media , lying politicians etc, etc.....


RT's Peter Lavelle interviews Dr. Ron Paul

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Published on 11 Nov 2016
With the surprise election of Donald Trump, can we expect an equally surprising foreign
policy from him? During the campaign he provided us with a glimpse of his thinking. Will
there be a Trump Doctrine?! RT'S PETER LAVELLE INTERVIEWS DR. RON PAUL

[turiya]

Cidersomerset - thanks so much for your imput. Your video selections are a very good showing of the different voices regarding the forthcoming Trump administration...

This from Dahboo7 - has usually been pretty good in the way he reports on what is taking place... In this particular video, he references George Soros doing what he does best - funding chaos & the instigation of disruptive forces.

However, he has not been very astute with what he sees in the individual that has become the President Elect. Still, it seems, he considers Trump to be part of the established oligarchy, imo. I take it from what he says that he neither voted for Hillary Clinton nor Donald Trump... Perhaps, Dahboo7's position will change over time... For the time being, he still makes a pretty good reporter of certain events as they take place...


BOOM! Soros Behind Busing In 'PAID PROTESTERS'
for Nationwide Anti Trump Protests
(Published on Nov 10, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkKWqlBJsU0____________________________

#TrumpRiot: Anti-Trump Protest In Portland Proclaimed
A 'RIOT', Vandalized Cars and Smashed Windows
(Published on Nov 11, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhi-sbXdX6k____________________________

Sefan Molyneux gives a monologue on the recent riots... what is Obama saying? ...What is Hillary saying about all this? Its the so-called 'liberal Democrats' that are doing all this destruction...


Anti-Donald Trump Protests and Riots | True News
(Published on Nov 11, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oakCWsVDDY

[Cidersomerset]

There are still 2 results to come New Hampshire ( 4 ) votes & Michigan ( 16 ) votes

I am still interested because of Ion's prediction of a Trump win with 294 votes
which is still possible UHM !!


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/us2016


http://www.270towin.com/map-images/2016-actual-electoral-map

[turiya]

Recent Tweets from Wikileaks....


http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/WIKILEAKS_TWE/OBAMA_POLITICAL_MOMENT_TO_PARDON_MANNING_and_SNOWDEN_may_go_to_Trump.png (https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/797126520628269056)


http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/WIKILEAKS_TWE/11_09_2016_REMEMBER_HOW_YOU_LEGALIZED_.png (https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/796522629175898113)

Known as Clinton's 'Pied Piper Strategy'
(Using Trump as an easily defeated opponent)
http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/WIKILEAKS_TWE/11_09_2016_Pied_Piper_Trump_Dangerous_and_Bigoted.png (https://twitter.com/DjChrisCastle/status/796439107715141632)

[TargeT]

LOTS of records set... apparently the trump is good for the markets.

Dow posts best week since 2011 after Donald Trump election win (http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/11/us-markets.html)

[norman]

Roger Stone said a lot of Trumps advisors are telling him to NOT prosecute the Clintons.

My guess is that he'll let the DOJ proceed with prosecution but he'll let them escape to a country with no extradition treaty.

[turiya]

Roger Stone said a lot of Trumps advisors are telling him to NOT prosecute the Clintons.

My guess is that he'll let the DOJ proceed with prosecution but he'll let them escape to a country with no extradition treaty.

Interested in what you posted... I have to go hear this for myself... will try to post it after I find it...

... Oh god! I can't stand Alex Jones' habit of not allowing his guests to finish their sentences... its the reason I stopped subscribing for membership to view his live shows... Oh well, will be back...

[Aurelius]

more from the hidden hands ...

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[norman]

Roger Stone said a lot of Trumps advisors are telling him to NOT prosecute the Clintons.

My guess is that he'll let the DOJ proceed with prosecution but he'll let them escape to a country with no extradition treaty.

Interested in what you posted... I have to go hear this for myself... will try to post it after I find it...

... Oh god! I can't stand Alex Jones' habit of not allowing his guests to finish their sentences... its the reason I stopped subscribing for membership to view his live shows... Oh well, will be back...

Alex is running his mouth off too much lately but I suppose with all the stress he's been under he's got an excuse for a while, but he'd better get over it fast.

Roger stone was about to say something I find very interesting about Trump trying to get his head around all the "EXTRAORDINARY national security issues" when Alex, like a bull in a china shop, cut him off and re indulged himself in his current self aggrandizement that's really getting to be too much.

Here's the snippet where Stone starts to mention the national security issues:
https://app.box.com/s/o28iiwk37j1xdlrqitpxnon65ejk28s9

[turiya]

more from the hidden hands ...

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Thanks Aurelius - started to look at this one earlier today but wasn't able to get back to it... & also at what point I could strategically place this... this would be a perfect time...

Immediately, upon listening to Pieczenik describe what was done to the Soviet Union, the notion of how the so-called "Arab Spring" was manipulated into taking place... seems like it went according the the playbook he describes...

[turiya]

Roger Stone said a lot of Trumps advisors are telling him to NOT prosecute the Clintons.

My guess is that he'll let the DOJ proceed with prosecution but he'll let them escape to a country with no extradition treaty.

Interested in what you posted... I have to go hear this for myself... will try to post it after I find it...

... Oh god! I can't stand Alex Jones' habit of not allowing his guests to finish their sentences... its the reason I stopped subscribing for membership to view his live shows... Oh well, will be back...

Alex is running his mouth off too much lately but I suppose with all the stress he's been under he's got an excuse for a while, but he'd better get over it fast.

Roger stone was about to say something I find very interesting about Trump trying to get his head around all the "national security issues" when Alex, like a bull in a china shop, cut him off and re indulged himself in his current self aggrandizement that's really getting to be too much.

Here's the snippet where Stone starts to mention the national security issues:
https://app.box.com/s/o28iiwk37j1xdlrqitpxnon65ejk28s9

Yes, exactly what you said - "a bull in a China Shop"...

Anyway, I found the particular point in Hour1 of Alex's show today & will post it below... in the next 15-20 minutes...

Specifically, Roger Stone has said that members of his Political Establiment Advisors (which are part of Team Trump) are not wanting him to prosecute the Clintons... sounds to me like it could be mainly Newt Gingrich, Reince Priebus (don't like this guy), or possibly, Mike Huckabee...


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Excerpt from Alex Jones Show 1st Hour, Interview with Roger Stone... Trump has some Political Establishment Advisors not wanting him to prosecute the Clintons for their crimes.


Roger Stone on Trump's Political Establishment
Advisors Not Wanting Prosecution of Clintons
(Published on November 11, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5la_qpshiU

[Aurelius]

more from the hidden hands ...



Thanks Aurelius - started to look at this one earlier today but wasn't able to get back to it... & also at what point I could strategically place this... this would be a perfect time...

Immediately, upon listening to Pieczenik describe what was done to the Soviet Union, the notion of how the so-called "Arab Spring" was manipulated into being...


in case you haven't already, have a look at the other 6 videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/stevepieczenik/videos) he released within the last week.

... as they say, talk to the doors for the walls to hear

[turiya]

Hervé posted this on another thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94417-Done-conceded-and-acknowledged-45th-US-president-Donald-Trump&p=1113316&viewfull=1#post1113316)... I felt it also belonged on this one...


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Wayne MADSEN | 11.11.2016 | WORLD
The Clintons and Soros launch
America’s Purple Revolution (http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/11/11/clintons-and-soros-launch-america-purple-revolution.html)

Defeated Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton is not about to «go quietly into that good night». On the morning after her surprising and unanticipated defeat at the hands of Republican Party upstart Donald Trump, Mrs. Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, entered the ball room of the art-deco New Yorker hotel in midtown Manhattan and were both adorned in purple attire.

The press immediately noticed the color and asked what it represented. Clinton spokespeople claimed it was to represent the coming together of Democratic «Blue America» and Republican «Red America» into a united purple blend. This statement was a complete ruse as is known by citizens of countries targeted in the past by the vile political operations of international hedge fund tycoon George Soros.

The Clintons, who both have received millions of dollars in campaign contributions and Clinton Foundation donations from Soros, were, in fact, helping to launch Soros’s «Purple Revolution» in America. The Purple Revolution will resist all efforts by the Trump administration to push back against the globalist policies of the Clintons and soon-to-be ex-President Barack Obama. The Purple Revolution will also seek to make the Trump administration a short one through Soros-style street protests and political disruption.

It is doubtful that President Trump’s aides will advise the new president to carry out a diversionary criminal investigation of Mrs. Clinton’s private email servers and other issues related to the activities of the Clinton Foundation, especially when the nation faces so many other pressing issues, including jobs, immigration, and health care. However, House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz said he will continue hearings in the Republican-controlled Congress on Hillary Clinton, the Clinton Foundation (http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/09/30/clinton-foundation-deal-opens-italy-anti-trump-front.html), and Mrs. Clinton’s aide Huma Abedin (http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/11/08/abedin-clinton-and-american-deep-state.html). President Trump should not allow himself to be distracted by these efforts. Chaffetz was not one of Trump’s most loyal supporters.

America’s globalists and interventionists are already pushing the meme that because so many establishment and entrenched national security and military «experts» opposed Trump’s candidacy, Trump is «required» to call on them to join his administration because there are not enough such «experts» among Trump’s inner circle of advisers. Discredited neo-conservatives from George W. Bush’s White House, such as Iraq war co-conspirator Stephen Hadley, are being mentioned as someone Trump should have join his National Security Council and other senior positions. George H. W. Bush’s Secretary of State James Baker, a die-hard Bush loyalist, is also being proffered as a member of Trump’s White House team. There is absolutely no reason for Trump to seek the advice from old Republican fossils like Baker, Hadley, former Secretaries of State Rice and Powell, the lunatic former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton, and others. There are plenty of Trump supporters who have a wealth of experience in foreign and national security matters, including those of African, Haitian, Hispanic, and Arab descent and who are not neocons, who can fill Trump’s senior- and middle-level positions.

Trump must distance himself from sudden well-wishing neocons, adventurists, militarists, and interventionists and not permit them to infest his administration. If Mrs. Clinton had won the presidency, an article on the incoming administration would have read as follows:

«Based on the militarism and foreign adventurism of her term as Secretary of State and her husband Bill Clinton’s two terms as president, the world is in store for major American military aggression on multiple fronts around the world. President-elect Hillary Clinton has made no secret of her desire to confront Russia militarily, diplomatically, and economically in the Middle East, on Russia’s very doorstep in eastern Europe, and even within the borders of the Russian Federation. Mrs. Clinton has dusted off the long-discredited ‘containment’ policy ushered into effect by Professor George F. Kennan in the aftermath of World War. Mrs. Clinton’s administration will likely promote the most strident neo-Cold Warriors of the Barack Obama administration, including Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland, a personal favorite of Clinton».

President-elect Trump cannot afford to permit those who are in the same web as Nuland, Hadley, Bolton, and others to join his administration where they would metastasize like an aggressive form of cancer. These individuals would not carry out Trump’s policies but seek to continue to damage America’s relations with Russia, China, Iran, Cuba, and other nations.

Not only must Trump have to deal with Republican neocons trying to worm their way into his administration, but he must deal with the attempt by Soros to disrupt his presidency and the United States with a Purple Revolution

No sooner had Trump been declared the 45th president of the United States, Soros-funded political operations launched their activities to disrupt Trump during Obama’s lame-duck period and thereafter. The swiftness of the Purple Revolution is reminiscent of the speed at which protesters hit the streets of Kiev, the Ukrainian capital, in two Orange Revolutions sponsored by Soros, one in 2004 and the other, ten years later, in 2014.

As the Clintons were embracing purple in New York, street demonstrations, some violent, all coordinated by the Soros-funded Moveon.org and «Black Lives Matter», broke out in New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Oakland, Nashville, Cleveland, Washington, Austin, Seattle, Philadelphia, Richmond, St. Paul, Kansas City, Omaha, San Francisco, and some 200 other cities across the United States.

The Soros-financed Russian singing group «Pussy Riot» released on YouTube an anti-Trump music video titled «Make America Great Again». The video went «viral» on the Internet. The video, which is profane and filled with violent acts, portrays a dystopian Trump presidency. Following the George Soros/Gene Sharp script to a tee, Pussy Riot member Nadya Tolokonnikova called for anti-Trump Americans to turn their anger into art, particularly music and visual art. The use of political graffiti is a popular Sharp tactic. The street protests and anti-Trump music and art were the first phase of Soros’s Purple Revolution in America.

President-elect Trump is facing a two-pronged attack by his opponents. One, led by entrenched neo-con bureaucrats, including former Central Intelligence Agency and National Security Agency director Michael Hayden, former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, and Bush family loyalists are seeking to call the shots on who Trump appoints to senior national security, intelligence, foreign policy, and defense positions in his administration. These neo-Cold Warriors are trying to convince Trump that he must maintain the Obama aggressiveness and militancy toward Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, and other countries. The second front arrayed against Trump is from Soros-funded political groups and media. This second line of attack is a propaganda war, utilizing hundreds of anti-Trump newspapers, web sites, and broadcasters, that will seek to undermine public confidence in the Trump administration from its outset.

One of Trump’s political advertisements, released just prior to Election Day, stated that George Soros, Federal Reserve chair Janet Yellen, and Goldman Sachs chief executive officer Lloyd Blankfein, are all part of «a global power structure that is responsible for the economic decisions that have robbed our working class, stripped our country of its wealth and put that money into the pockets of a handful of large corporations and political entities». Soros and his minions immediately and ridiculously attacked the ad as «anti-Semitic». President Trump should be on guard against those who his campaign called out in the ad and their colleagues. Soros’s son, Alexander Soros, called on Trump’s daughter, Ivanka, and her husband Jared Kushner, to publicly disavow Trump. Soros’s tactics not only seek to split apart nations but also families. Trump must be on guard against the current and future machinations of George Soros, including his Purple Revolution.

Wayne Madsen Souros (http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/11/11/clintons-and-soros-launch-america-purple-revolution.html)


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GEORGE SOROS FUNDED
STOP TRUMP ADS POPPING UP ON CRAIGSLISTS NATIONWIDE
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[Akasha]

Apologies if a) this has already been posted and b) for not being exactly on topic - I just didn't think it quite warranted its own thread.

It's a black woman calling out the black community for falling for the JayZ and Beyonce carrots put out by the Hillary camp as well as their diving blindly into the black lives matter Soros movement / psy-op (strong language). Hats off to her!

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[Ewan]

I hope this provides a mood lifting chuckle and not the opposite.

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[Cidersomerset]

AH Goodman is still going thru the wiki leaks releases and in the latest one
it tells how the Clintons encouraged Trump to run , hoping to disrupt the
republicans, banking on if he did win they could defeat him. Also how they
were paying actors/ativists to disrupt Trump rallies....

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WIKILEAKS 1-36 BREAKING NEWS: Trump Protesters Paid By Democrats. FBI Accused of Coup D'etat

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Published on 12 Nov 2016

My name is H. A. Goodman and I’m an author, columnist, and journalist www.hagoodman.com
H A GOODMAN ON RT CROSS TALK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvZVJ...
Donald Trump Protester Speaks Out: “I Was Paid $3,500 To Protest Trump’s Rally”

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91646-FBI-quizzes-Hillary-Clinton-on-emails-2-July-2016-Hillary-Lied-Under-Oath.....&p=1113428&viewfull=1#post1113428

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Farage first UK politician to meet Trump since election

26 minutes ago


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Nigel Farage has become the first British politician to meet Donald Trump since he
became US president-elect, UKIP has said.A party spokesman said the interim UKIP
leader discussed "freedom and winning" with Mr Trump on a visit to Trump Tower
in New York.

read more...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37965089

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Nigel Farage 'should be UK ambassador to America after Donald Trump's US election victory'

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Published on 11 Nov 2016

[Chester]

One thing I haven't seen very much addressed anywhere in the platform for the new Trump administration deals with C.I.A. renditions and programs around the world, with secret black bases..

see - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_Senate_Report_on_CIA_Detention_Interrogation_Program.pdf - Senate Report on CIA Detention, Interrogation Program.

The document is about 63 megabytes (maybe a useful archival document?)

in American Blog - http://americablog.com/2015/11/donald-trump-pro-torture.html


Yesterday, (11/24/15 12:00pm by Jon Green) wrote that Donald Trump’s endorsement of waterboarding was more worrisome than past Republicans’ endorsement of the policy because he didn’t rely on semantics to make his point.

While Republican politicians usually justify the practice by insisting that it isn’t torture, Trump merely said that it was fine because it’s “peanuts compared to what [the Islamic State would] do to us.”

In other words, the acceptability of interrogation techniques, regardless of the semantics surrounding whether they could be classified as “torture,” is relative: If we think our enemies could or would do it, then it’s fine.

There is little or no stated legal authority for the operation of black sites by the United States or the other countries believed to be involved.

In fact, the specifics of the network of black sites remains controversial. The United Nations has begun to intervene in this aspect of black sites.

And C.I.A. strongly backing the Clintons, what now? What changes?

...and what about the cooperation of the various nations' "listening" intelligence agencies (NSA, GCHQ as an example) who get around the "cannot eaves drop on your own citizens" by doing it for each other then trading the data? I don't expect this to end.

I live assuming all my communications, indeed even my thoughts, are available, if desired, to these agencies... and it may not end there either but that subject is for a different thread.

[turiya]

What happened to the 'high road'? I guess they forgot about what their motto was...


Hannity 11/11/16 | Sean Hannity Panel on
Anti-Trump Protests, Kellyanne Conway interview
(Published on Nov 11, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJRluO4CHOw

[Bob]

Clinton's campaign to try to bring "Color" into the issue (i.e. "purple") has been revealed as early as August.. https://www.sott.net/article/295896-George-Soros-The-hidden-hand-behind-color-revolutions

Sott.net points this out.

George Soros: The hidden hand behind 'color revolutions'


With a carefully orchestrated network that was capable of organizing large numbers of individuals on a moment's notice, and a simultaneous media campaign that cleverly showed violence and riots but ignored peaceful or appropriately-directed violent acts, these organizations were able to turn what could and should have been a national movement into a racially-oriented hate-filled display of unrestrained destruction.

This "PURPLE" revolution is a scam perpetrated by Hillary and Soros. People being paid to create a fraudulent protest against legal voting, to try to deceive kids and gain some media coverage.


eorge Soros has been heavily involved in the social unrest and movement-wrecking activity that has taken place all across the United States in recent months. From Florida to Ferguson and now to Baltimore, George Soros' Foundations have been involved in making sure that not only are American citizens unable to overcome racial divisions with mutual cooperation but that even the racially isolated participants are unable to accomplish anything of substance.


There is no honesty in the 'protests'. It is manipulation, protesters being paid as "shills"..


In all, Mr. Soros gave at least $33 million in one year to support already-established groups that emboldened the grass-roots, on-the-ground activists in Ferguson, according to the most recent tax filings of his nonprofit Open Society Foundations.

Consider that the Clinton machine is using this 'tool'.. Consider that Soros has an agenda.

I spent 2 hours on the phone today with a Soros sympathizer. I listened to the diatribe during that time, hearing how much this person wanted the US, and any and all non-socialist countries to be destroyed and then to come under what they felt was the "benevolent" rule created by Soros and his viewpoint of how the world should work.. (sigh) :facepalm:

It's pretty clear Soros has chosen the race button to push. End result? Turmoil, end manipulation people choose the traps that Soros has lain in. Why did Hillary et group choose Soros? Money speaks.. pay for play, and soros has only one primary thing in mind - slaves that will bow down to and willingly comply being subordinates, forever paying the man "alms"..

http://humanevents.com/2011/04/02/top-10-reasons-george-soros-is-dangerous/

Soros is a monster, a criminal against society:


1. Gives billions to left-wing causes: Soros started the Open Society Institute in 1993 as a way to spread his wealth to progressive causes. Using Open Society as a conduit, Soros has given more than $7 billion to a who’s who of left-wing groups. This partial list of recipients of Soros’ money says it all: ACORN, Apollo Alliance, National Council of La Raza, Tides Foundation, Huffington Post, Southern Poverty Law Center, Soujourners, People for the American Way, Planned Parenthood, and the National Organization for Women.

2. Influence on U.S. elections: Soros once said that removing President George W. Bush from office in 2004 was the “central focus of my life.” He put his money where his mouth is, giving $23.58 million to various 527 groups dedicated to defeating Bush. His early financial support helped jump-start Barack Obama’s political career. Soros hosted a 2004 fund-raiser for Obama when he was running for the Illinois Senate and gave the maximum-allowed contribution within hours of Obama’s announcement that he was running for President.


3. Wants to curtail American sovereignty: Soros would like nothing better than for America to become subservient to international bodies. He wants more power for groups such as the World Bank and International Monetary Fund, even while saying the U.S. role in the IMF should be “downsized.” In 1998, he wrote: “Insofar as there are collective interests that transcend state boundaries, the sovereignty of states must be subordinated to international law and international institutions.”

4. Media Matters: Soros is a financial backer of Media Matters for America, a progressive media watchdog group that hyperventilates over any conservative view that makes it into the mainstream media. Now its founder, David Brock, has openly declared war on Fox News, telling Politico that the group was mounting “guerrilla warfare and sabotage” against the cable news channel, and would try to disrupt the commercial interests of owner Rupert Murdoch—an odd mission for a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt educational foundation that is barred from participating in partisan political activity.

5. MoveOn.org: Soros has been a major funder of MoveOn.org, a progressive advocacy group and political action committee that raises millions for liberal candidates. This is the group that had on its website an ad comparing President George W. Bush to Adolf Hitler and ran the infamous “General Betray Us” ad in the New York Times, disparaging the integrity of Gen. David Petraeus.

6. Center for American Progress: Headed by John Podesta, White House chief of staff under President Clinton, the Center for American Progress has been instrumental in providing progressive talking points and policy positions for the Obama administration. There has also been a revolving door between the White House and the Soros-funded think tank, with Obama staffing his administration with many CAP officials.

7. Environmental extremism: Former Obama green jobs czar Van Jones and his leftist environmental ideas have been funded by Soros’ money at these groups: the Ella Baker Center, Green For All, the Center for American Progress, and the Apollo Alliance, which was instrumental in getting $110 billion in green initiatives included in Obama’s stimulus package. Soros also funds the Climate Policy Initiative to address global warming and gave Friends of the Earth money to “integrate a climate equity perspective in the presidential transition.”

8. America Coming Together: Soros gave nearly $20 million to this 527 group with the express purpose of defeating President Bush. A massive get-out-the-vote effort, ACT’s door-to-door canvassing teams included numerous felons, its voter registration drives were riddled with fraud, and it handed out incendiary fliers and made misleading taped phone calls to voters. ACT was fined $775,000 by the Federal Election Commission for violations of various federal campaign finance laws.

9. Currency manipulation: A large part of Soros’ multibillion-dollar fortune has come from manipulating currencies. During the 1997 Asian financial crisis, Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir bin Mohamad accused him of bringing down the nation’s currency through his trading activities, and in Thailand he was called an “economic war criminal.” Known as “The Man who Broke the Bank of England,” Soros initiated a British financial crisis by dumping 10 billion sterling, forcing the devaluation of the currency and gaining a billion-dollar profit.

10. Delusions: Soros has repeatedly said that he sees himself as a messianic figure. Who but a megalomaniac would make these comments? “I admit that I have always harbored an exaggerated view of my self-importance—to put it bluntly, I fancied myself as some kind of god” or “I carried some rather potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood, which I felt I had to control, otherwise I might end up in the loony bin.” If only the loony bin were an option. As it is, one of the wealthiest men in the world is using his billions to impose a radical agenda on America.

That Hillary and Crew chose to ally with Soros says enough. That the people signing up for "payment" to rabble rouse against Trump have no clue about the above. IF they do, then what can we say, those wanting kiss the ring, bow down and present the 'head' to the 'king' for it to be cut off? Where are we going folks?

[turiya]

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Here Is What Donald Trump Wants
To Do In His First 100 Days (http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501451368/here-is-what-donald-trump-wants-to-do-in-his-first-100-days)
November 9, 2016 3:45 PM ET
Amita Kelly
What follows is my 100-day action plan to Make America Great Again. It is a contract between myself and the American voter — and begins with restoring honesty, accountability and change to Washington

Therefore, on the first day of my term of office, my administration will immediately pursue the following six measures to clean up the corruption and special interest collusion in Washington, DC:

* FIRST, propose a Constitutional Amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress;

* SECOND, a hiring freeze on all federal employees to reduce federal workforce through attrition (exempting military, public safety, and public health);

* THIRD, a requirement that for every new federal regulation, two existing regulations must be eliminated;

* FOURTH, a 5 year-ban on White House and Congressional officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government service;

* FIFTH, a lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government;

* SIXTH, a complete ban on foreign lobbyists raising money for American elections.

On the same day, I will begin taking the following 7 actions to protect American workers:

* FIRST, I will announce my intention to renegotiate NAFTA or withdraw from the deal under Article 2205

* SECOND, I will announce our withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership

* THIRD, I will direct my Secretary of the Treasury to label China a currency manipulator

* FOURTH, I will direct the Secretary of Commerce and U.S. Trade Representative to identify all foreign trading abuses that unfairly impact American workers and direct them to use every tool under American and international law to end those abuses immediately

* FIFTH, I will lift the restrictions on the production of $50 trillion dollars' worth of job-producing American energy reserves, including shale, oil, natural gas and clean coal.

* SIXTH, lift the Obama-Clinton roadblocks and allow vital energy infrastructure projects, like the Keystone Pipeline, to move forward

* SEVENTH, cancel billions in payments to U.N. climate change programs and use the money to fix America's water and environmental infrastructure

Additionally, on the first day, I will take the following five actions to restore security and the constitutional rule of law:

* FIRST, cancel every unconstitutional executive action, memorandum and order issued by President Obama

* SECOND, begin the process of selecting a replacement for Justice Scalia from one of the 20 judges on my list, who will uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States

* THIRD, cancel all federal funding to Sanctuary Cities

* FOURTH, begin removing the more than 2 million criminal illegal immigrants from the country and cancel visas to foreign countries that won't take them back

* FIFTH, suspend immigration from terror-prone regions where vetting cannot safely occur. All vetting of people coming into our country will be considered extreme vetting.

Next, I will work with Congress to introduce the following broader legislative measures and fight for their passage within the first 100 days of my Administration:

- Middle Class Tax Relief And Simplification Act. An economic plan designed to grow the economy 4% per year and create at least 25 million new jobs through massive tax reduction and simplification, in combination with trade reform, regulatory relief, and lifting the restrictions on American energy. The largest tax reductions are for the middle class. A middle-class family with 2 children will get a 35% tax cut. The current number of brackets will be reduced from 7 to 3, and tax forms will likewise be greatly simplified. The business rate will be lowered from 35 to 15 percent, and the trillions of dollars of American corporate money overseas can now be brought back at a 10 percent rate.

- End The Offshoring Act. Establishes tariffs to discourage companies from laying off their workers in order to relocate in other countries and ship their products back to the U.S. tax-free.

- American Energy & Infrastructure Act. Leverages public-private partnerships, and private investments through tax incentives, to spur $1 trillion in infrastructure investment over 10 years. It is revenue neutral.

- School Choice And Education Opportunity Act. Redirects education dollars to give parents the right to send their kid to the public, private, charter, magnet, religious or home school of their choice. Ends common core, brings education supervision to local communities. It expands vocational and technical education, and make 2 and 4-year college more affordable.

- Repeal and Replace Obamacare Act. Fully repeals Obamacare and replaces it with Health Savings Accounts, the ability to purchase health insurance across state lines, and lets states manage Medicaid funds. Reforms will also include cutting the red tape at the FDA: there are over 4,000 drugs awaiting approval, and we especially want to speed the approval of life-saving medications.

- Affordable Childcare and Eldercare Act. Allows Americans to deduct childcare and elder care from their taxes, incentivizes employers to provide on-side childcare services, and creates tax-free Dependent Care Savings Accounts for both young and elderly dependents, with matching contributions for low-income families.

- End Illegal Immigration Act Fully-funds the construction of a wall on our southern border with the full understanding that the country Mexico will be reimbursing the United States for the full cost of such wall; establishes a 2-year mandatory minimum federal prison sentence for illegally re-entering the U.S. after a previous deportation, and a 5-year mandatory minimum for illegally re-entering for those with felony convictions, multiple misdemeanor convictions or two or more prior deportations; also reforms visa rules to enhance penalties for overstaying and to ensure open jobs are offered to American workers first.

- Restoring Community Safety Act. Reduces surging crime, drugs and violence by creating a Task Force On Violent Crime and increasing funding for programs that train and assist local police; increases resources for federal law enforcement agencies and federal prosecutors to dismantle criminal gangs and put violent offenders behind bars.

- Restoring National Security Act. Rebuilds our military by eliminating the defense sequester and expanding military investment; provides Veterans with the ability to receive public VA treatment or attend the private doctor of their choice; protects our vital infrastructure from cyber-attack; establishes new screening procedures for immigration to ensure those who are admitted to our country support our people and our values

- Clean up Corruption in Washington Act. Enacts new ethics reforms to Drain the Swamp and reduce the corrupting influence of special interests on our politics.

On November 8th, Americans will be voting for this 100-day plan to restore prosperity to our economy, security to our communities, and honesty to our government.


This is my pledge to you.

And if we follow these steps, we will once more have a government of, by and for the people.

SOURCE (http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501451368/here-is-what-donald-trump-wants-to-do-in-his-first-100-days)


Will have to see how this unfolds....

[turiya]

The Abuse by the political left...


Never Forget Never Trump
Mike Cernovich and Stefan Molyneux
(Published on Nov 12, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShXPY5brxmM__________________________


http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/WIKILEAKS_TWE/WIKILEAKS_TWEET_WHITE_HOUSE_ANNOUNCED_TPP_IS_DEAD. png
SOURCE (https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/797527910349414400)


BREAKING NEWS TPP: Trans Pacific Partnership
Defeated by President Trump, Bernie and WikiLeaks
(Published on Nov 10, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVQQLN-dxkE

[Bob]

in Other Countries Turiya, Soros would be guilty of sedition - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedition

under Trump's plan:

- Clean up Corruption in Washington Act. Enacts new ethics reforms to Drain the Swamp and reduce the corrupting influence of special interests on our politics.

I like your post in http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90590-TRANSITIONED-into-Trump&p=1113500&viewfull=1#post1113500 above.

I would opt tho for nationalization of health care instead of playing into modifying the boma' hillarycare plan. I've posted on that elsewhere, what benefits could be achieved and reduce a trillion or so dollars in subsidy.

[turiya]

in Other Countries Turiya, Soros would be guilty of sedition - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedition

under Trump's plan:

- Clean up Corruption in Washington Act. Enacts new ethics reforms to Drain the Swamp and reduce the corrupting influence of special interests on our politics.

I like your post in http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90590-TRANSITIONED-into-Trump&p=1113500&viewfull=1#post1113500 above.

Trump becoming more friendly with Putin would be of much help, imo, as Putin understood how to deal with the troublemakers that are at the root of the cause of the destablization of a sovereign nation... there is something to learn from Putin, imo.


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F̶o̶r̶ ̶R̶O̶T̶H̶S̶C̶H̶I̶L̶D̶ ̶&̶ ̶S̶O̶R̶O̶S̶!̶ (http://www.secretsofthefed.com/russia-issues-international-arrest-warrant-rothschild-soros/)

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Russia Bans Soros Foundation As A
"Threat To National Security And Constitutional Order" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-30/russia-bans-soros-foundation-threat-national-security-and-constitutional-order)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Nov 30, 2015 9:19 AM
Following Russia's official retaliation to the Turkish downing of its jet a week ago, in which Putin issued an executive order limiting employment for Turkish workers, restricting Turkish organizations, and reducing the amount of bilateral trade with Ankara, perhaps a far more notable development took place earlier today when the Russian Prosecutor General’s Office issued a statement in which it recognized George Soros’s Open Society Institute and another affiliated organization as "undesirable groups", banning Russian citizens and organizations from participation in any of their projects.

In a statement released on Monday, prosecutors said the activities of the Open Society Institute and the Open Society Institute Assistance Foundation were a threat to the foundations of Russia’s Constitutional order and national security. They added that the Justice Ministry would be duly informed about these conclusions and would add the two groups to Russia’s list of undesirable foreign organizations.

Are the "globalization gloves" finally coming off?

According to RT, prosecutors launched a probe into the activities of the two organizations - both sponsored by the well-known US financier George Soros - in July this year, after Russian senators approved the so-called “patriotic stop-list” of 12 groups that required immediate attention over their supposed anti-Russian activities. Other groups on the list included the National Endowment for Democracy; the International Republican Institute; the National Democratic Institute; the MacArthur Foundation and Freedom House.

Open Society is not the first: in late July, the Russian Justice Ministry recognized the US National Endowment for Democracy as an undesirable group after prosecutors discovered the US NGO had spent millions on attempts to question the legitimacy of Russian elections and tarnish the prestige of national military service.

The Law on Undesirable Foreign Organizations came into force in early June this year. It requires the Prosecutor General’s Office and the Foreign Ministry to draw up an official list of undesirable foreign organizations and outlaw their activities. Once a group is recognized as undesirable, its assets in Russia must be frozen, its offices closed and the distribution of any of its materials must be banned. That said, it is doubtful that Soros still has any active assets in Russia - his foundation, which emerged in Russia in its early post-USSR years in the mid-1990s, wrapped up active operations in 2003 when Putin cemented his control on power.

If the ban is violated, the personnel of the outlawed group and any Russian citizens who cooperate with them could face heavy fines, or even prison terms in the case of repeated or aggravated offences.

And while it is doubtful that Soros will be making landfall in Moscow any time soon and thus be subject to an arrest warrant, it is notable that the first financial spillover effect from the year's most dramatic geopolitical event involves note other than the famed "globalizer" and the person who as recent hacked emails divulged was the puppet-master behind the Ukraine presidential coup.

Will the US retaliate in kind and expand its year-long sanctions against Russia as a result as the world continues to careen into fragmented, multi-polar chaos? Or will there be another provocation between NATO-member Turkey and Russia as a result, perhaps one involving Russian ship transit through the Boshporus? With events now moving fast, we should have an answer in the very near future.

SOUROS (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-30/russia-bans-soros-foundation-threat-national-security-and-constitutional-order)


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Regarding the American immigration issue, Soros & CIA... Wayne Madsen also has a good article... Whether consciously known or not, it appears that Putin & Trump are on the same page... As Trump wants to give distance to the outdated & disfunctioning NATO...


Soros / CIA Plan to Destabilize Europe (http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2015/09/24/soros-cia-plan-to-destabilize-europe.html)
Wayne MADSEN | 24.09.2015
SOURCE (http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2015/09/24/soros-cia-plan-to-destabilize-europe.html)
"Soros, who is nothing more than a multi-billionaire front man for the even wealthier Rothschild banking family of Western Europe, oversaw the complete destruction of the nation-states of southeastern Europe that now permit practical unfettered access of civil war and economic migrants from Syria, Iraq, North Africa, sub-Saharan Africa, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Burma, Sri Lanka, and other war- and poverty-ravaged nations of the Third World.

As a result of his programs to re-engineer nations, Soros first helped destroy the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia with the active help of the European Union and NATO."

More at the link: Source (http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2015/09/24/soros-cia-plan-to-destabilize-europe.html)

[ThePythonicCow]

Russia Issues International ARREST WARRANT For ROTHSCHILD & SOROS! (http://www.secretsofthefed.com/russia-issues-international-arrest-warrant-rothschild-soros/)
I can't find a reliable source for this claim. I suspect it's a hoax.

Several "click-bait" sites are showing results for "Russia Issues International ARREST WARRANT For ROTHSCHILD & SOROS!", but not a site I trust, and what I read in the associated articles sounds like mostly filler material on the general topic, with no specifics on this alleged arrest warrant.

Can anyone find more details or any reliable sources for this claim?

[Sueanne47]

I looked on russian insider youtube news channel....sorry, nothing there.

There was an article in 2012 here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/21q9ow/vladimir_putin_russia_issues_international_arrest/

[norman]

Russia Issues International ARREST WARRANT For ROTHSCHILD & SOROS! (http://www.secretsofthefed.com/russia-issues-international-arrest-warrant-rothschild-soros/)
I can't find a reliable source for this claim. I suspect it's a hoax.

Several "click-bait" sites are showing results for "Russia Issues International ARREST WARRANT For ROTHSCHILD & SOROS!", but not a site I trust, and what I read in the associated articles sounds like mostly filler material on the general topic, with no specifics on this alleged arrest warrant.

Can anyone find more details or any reliable sources for this claim?

I can't see a date on that page. It describes Putin as Prime Minister not President.

No specific charge. Almost certainly not current or real.

[turiya]

Russia Issues International ARREST WARRANT For ROTHSCHILD & SOROS! (http://www.secretsofthefed.com/russia-issues-international-arrest-warrant-rothschild-soros/)
I can't find a reliable source for this claim. I suspect it's a hoax.

Several "click-bait" sites are showing results for "Russia Issues International ARREST WARRANT For ROTHSCHILD & SOROS!", but not a site I trust, and what I read in the associated articles sounds like mostly filler material on the general topic, with no specifics on this alleged arrest warrant.

Can anyone find more details or any reliable sources for this claim?


I looked on russian insider youtube news channel....sorry, nothing there.

There was an article in 2012 here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/...tional_arrest/



I can't see a date on that page. It describes Putin as Prime Minister not President.
No specific charge. Almost certainly not current or real.

Thank you for your assistance.... I have found a ZeroHedge article by Tyler Durden to backup the point I was making to Bob.

Best...

[KiwiElf]

IMO, "Draining the Swamp's" first (and perhaps highest) priority should be going after Soros - cut the head off the snake at the source (and with at least as much determination as the present "establishment" allegedly went after Osama Bin-Laden - then the Clintons, Bushes etc)

[jaybee]

I hope this provides a mood lifting chuckle and not the opposite.

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https://grrrgraphics.wordpress.com/2016/03/08/lipstick-on-a-pig-new-ben-garrison-cartoon/

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[Cidersomerset]

Conway: Decision on Trump's chief of staff is '...

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Published on 12 Nov 2016

Donald Trump's campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, says a decision
on the President-elect's chief of staff is "imminent."

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Clinton blames election defeat on FBI director's letter

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Published on 12 Nov 2016
Democrats struggle to determine new party leadership following loss
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Eric Shawn reports: Trump's foreign policy plans

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Published on 12 Nov 2016
Amb. John Bolton on the challenges from Iran to ISIS

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Gohmert on Trump Promise to Build A Wall On The Southern Border

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Published on 11 Nov 2016
Rep. Louie Gohmert (TX-01) talked to Fox & Friends and shared his thoughts on
Donald Trump's campaign promise to build a wall on the southern border of the
U.S. He noted, " “He [President Elect Donald Trump] can get started when he has a
good Homeland Security Secretary. It is amazing what you can get Congress to do
when you lead and push them in the right direction. It is going to be great to have
someone who is actually following the law … we are going to be able to get this
done. It’s gonna happen.”

[Cidersomerset]

Henningsen: ‘US Anti-Trump Protests Similar to Soros Colour Revolutions Abroad’

By David on 13 November 2016 GMT

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Henningsen: ‘US Anti-Trump Protests Similar to Soros Color Revolutions Abroad’

November 12, 2016 By 21wire 14 Comments

21st Century Wire says…

‘Organized efforts are underway by Democratic Party affiliated NGO’s to try and
somehow delegitimize the results of this week’s US Presidential Election.

On the eve of the US Election before voters went to the polls, 21WIRE political affairs
analyst Patrick Henningsen accurately predicted this week’s unrest when he said:

“If Trump wins, expect the likes of Soros and MoveOn.org to unleash wave after
wave of flash mobs, who will protest, riot, smash and burn their way on to CNN’s
24 hour news rotation. Expect Occupy 2.0, and #BlackLivesMatter to rage.”’

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read more..
http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/11/12/henningsen-us-anti-trump-protests-similar-to-soros-color-revolutions-abroad/

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‘COLOR REV’ AGIT PROP: George Soros MoveOn Agitators March on America – as Billionaire Instigator Sued

November 11, 2016 By Shawn Helton 16 Comments


Shawn Helton
21st Century Wire

Anti-Trump street protests linked to the Soros’ funded organization MoveOn.org
have cascaded across the nation for the third day following the 2016 presidential
election result.

Mainstream media outlets like CNN and MSNBC have given the protests around-the-
clock media coverage, drowning out all other news stories, including a successful
transition meeting between the President Elect and President Barack Obama.

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Read more....

http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/11/11/color-revolution-george-soros-moveon-agitators-march-on-america-as-billionaire-instigator-sued/

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ABC News Busted For Staging A Crime-Scene Shot

By David on 13 November 2016 GMT Useless Media

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‘An ABC News correspondent Linsey Davis was caught staging a crime-scene shot.
A woman in Woodruff, SC was allegedly held captive by a registered sex offender
locked up like an animal in a metal cage. I remember reading about this horrific
crime, wondering how anyone endures such a thing. The below is a link to the
actual story, and it is one that will horrify you.’

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http://investmentwatchblog.com/abc-news-busted-for-staging-a-crime-scene-shot/

[turiya]

Nice Patrick Henningsen clip, Cidersomerset. Alt-right news is finding an increasingly opening of the door to get out correct & truthful news...

Here we have the NYT trying to dig themselves out of the dirty little hole they've volunteerily placed themselves in...


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Liberal Media Turns On Itself
As NYT Promises To "Rededicate" Itself
To "Honest" Reporting (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-12/liberal-media-turns-itself-nyt-promoses-rededicate-itself-honest-reporting)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Nov 12, 2016 9:45 PM

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In a letter from its owner and executive editor, the New York Times, a biased media outlet which together with the rest of the liberal press misreported on the presidential race - whether due to conflicts of interest or due to sheer stupidity - from day one, leading to such idiotic forecasts as an 86% probability for Hillary to win as recently as one week ago (contrast with our own prediction (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-04/market-indicator-gives-trump-86-chance-winning-election)):


http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/WIKILEAKS_TWE/NYT_ELECTION_PREDICTION_03_NOV_2016.png (https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/794257874306342912/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

... Arthur Sulzberger, the owner and publisher of the NYT, promised that the paper would “reflect” on its coverage of this year’s election, as it "rededicates" itself to reporting on “America and the world” honestly.

To be sure, that would be a vast change from the NYT's existing coverage of events, even though despite the tacit admission of its failure to account for Trump's "stunning" victory, in the same letter Sulzberger also writes that "we believe we reported on both candidates fairly during the presidential campaign."

No, you did not: you were too worried about losing your advertisers who would complain loudly, and threaten to pull their revenue, if they saw even implicit criticism of Hillary Clinton, which meant non stop explicit criticism of Trump. So why bring it up? Because speaking of the all important top-line, the NYT - already suffering from a collapse in ad revenue - which plunged 18.5% in Q3, desperately needs subscribers to keep paying for its disinformation or else the very future of the NYT is in danger. This is how Sulzberger put it:

"you can rely on The New York Times to bring the same fairness, the same level of scrutiny, the same independence to our coverage of the new president and his team."

What about the same humor?

The full Arthur Sulzberger, Jr. letter sent on November 11 to readers is below:

To our readers,

When the biggest political story of the year reached a dramatic and unexpected climax late Tuesday night, our newsroom turned on a dime and did what it has done for nearly two years — cover the 2016 election with agility and creativity.

After such an erratic and unpredictable election there are inevitable questions: Did Donald Trump’s sheer unconventionality lead us and other news outlets to underestimate his support among American voters? What forces and strains in America drove this divisive election and outcome? Most important, how will a president who remains a largely enigmatic figure actually govern when he takes office?

As we reflect on this week’s momentous result, and the months of reporting and polling that preceded it, we aim to rededicate ourselves to the fundamental mission of Times journalism. That is to report America and the world honestly, without fear or favor, striving always to understand and reflect all political perspectives and life experiences in the stories that we bring to you. It is also to hold power to account, impartially and unflinchingly. We believe we reported on both candidates fairly during the presidential campaign. You can rely on The New York Times to bring the same fairness, the same level of scrutiny, the same independence to our coverage of the new president and his team.

We cannot deliver the independent, original journalism for which we are known without the loyalty of our subscribers. We want to take this opportunity, on behalf of all Times journalists, to thank you for that loyalty.

Sincerely,

Arthur O. Sulzberger Jr.
Publisher

Dean Baquet
Executive Editor

Sulzbergers letter was released after the paper’s public editor, Liz Spayd, took the paper to task for its election coverage. She pointed out how its polling feature Upshot gave Hillary Clinton an 84 percent chance as voters went to the polls. She compared stories that the paper ran about President-elect Donald Trump and Clinton, where the paper made Clinton look functional and organized and the Trump discombobulated.


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Spayd wrote, “Readers are sending letters of complaint at a rapid rate. Here’s one that summed up the feelings succinctly, from Kathleen Casey of Houston: “Now, that the world has been upended and you are all, to a person, in a state of surprise and shock, you may want to consider whether you should change your focus from telling the reader what and how to think, and instead devote yourselves to finding out what the reader (and nonreaders) actually think.”

She wrote about another reader who asked that the paper should focus on the electorate instead of “pushing the limited agenda of your editors.”

“Please come down from your New York City skyscraper and join the rest of us.”

Sulzberger—who insisted that the paper covered both candidates fairly - also sent a note to staffers on Friday reminding the newsroom to “give the news impartially, without fear or favor.”

“But we also approach the incoming Trump administration without bias,” he said.

Critical response to the NYT's biased propaganda and Sulzeberger's letter from outside the liberal universe bastion also came quick: New York Post columnist and former Times reporter Michael Goodwin wrote, "because it (The Times) demonized Trump from start to finish, it failed to realize he was onto something. And because the paper decided that Trump’s supporters were a rabble of racist rednecks and homophobes, it didn’t have a clue about what was happening in the lives of the Americans who elected the new president."

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But the most scathing critique of the NYT's endless propaganda came from within the ultraliberal MSNBC's own Joe Scarborough who slammed not only the NYT, but the entire leftist press, and said that the "Clinton campaign believed until 9 o’clock that they had a lock on this, that they were going to win. That fault of that, actually, lies with the media” who "stopped being journalists for the past month, and began being cheerleaders, and began being people who had a conclusion that they reached, and then searched for facts to show that Hillary was a 92, 93, 99.999 percent chance winner of winning this campaign."

His criticism of the two most anti-Trump outlets, the New York Times and Jeff Bezos' ego blog, the Washington Post, continued when he said the two putblications became obsessed with fulfilling its prophecies that President-elect Donald Trump could not win, and failed to do its job. “It was there the entire time,” he said of Trump’s march to victory in the election. “They didn’t want to hear it, they didn’t want to see it.”

“I want you guys to think about this, at the Times and the Washington Post, people I know and love. I want you to think about this,” Scarborough said.

“When anybody even made the suggestion that Donald Trump could be elected president of the United States, it was their journalistic standards that were questioned,” he said.

He then accused the Times of acting out of intention, not ignorance. “You had a complete blind spot, and you wanted to keep it that way. It was much easier for you to stay in Manhattan and say that they are all racists and bigots.”

He added that if the editors of the Times still believe that 50 million Americans are “racists and bigots … I take pity on you.”

Accusing the NYT reporters of living in their own world, he said “you don’t understand what’s going on. Let’s face it: I didn’t understand what’s going on out there. But you know what (co-host Mark Halperin) and I did that you didn’t do? You know what (co-host Mika Brzezinski) did that you didn’t do? We actually talked to people in Middle America. And they told us they were hurting, and they told us why they were voting for Trump,” he said.

Instead, he said, the Times had only one mission. “Think about what you did. You were trying to help Hillary Clinton defeat Donald Trump,” Scarborough said.

“You completely ignored the world,” he added.

As he was slamming the NYT, Scarborough held up the front page of Thursday morning’s "shocked" Times with a lead headline that read, “Democrats, Students and Foreign Allies Face the Reality of a Trump Presidency.”

“This is staggering, it really is. This is the day after a surprising underdog sweeping victory and their headline is not ‘Disaffected Americans Have a Champion Going to the White House’ or ‘The Country Votes for Fundamental Change,’” Halperin chimed in.

“The headline is about how disappointed the friends of the people who run The New York Times are. This shows that the editors of The New York Times—I have the greatest respect for them—don’t get it,” he said. “This is a Saturday Night Live sketch. You went to a cocktail party the night before and you decided to write this.”



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY3nRgEZTm8

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Then there was ultraliberal Michael Moore, who in a facebook post urged to "Fire all pundits, predictors, pollsters and anyone else in the media who had a narrative they wouldn't let go of and refused to listen to or acknowledge what was really going on. Those same bloviators will now tell us we must "heal the divide" and "come together." They will pull more hooey like that out of their ass in the days to come. Turn them off."

Morning After To-Do List:

1. Take over the Democratic Party and return it to the people. They have failed us miserably.

2. Fire all pundits, predictors, pollsters and anyone else in the media who had a narrative they wouldn't let go of and refused to listen to or acknowledge what was really going on. Those same bloviators will now tell us we must "heal the divide" and "come together." They will pull more hooey like that out of their ass in the days to come. Turn them off.

3. Any Democratic member of Congress who didn't wake up this morning ready to fight, resist and obstruct in the way Republicans did against President Obama every day for eight full years must step out of the way and let those of us who know the score lead the way in stopping the meanness and the madness that's about to begin.

4. Everyone must stop saying they are "stunned" and "shocked". What you mean to say is that you were in a bubble and weren't paying attention to your fellow Americans and their despair. YEARS of being neglected by both parties, the anger and the need for revenge against the system only grew. Along came a TV star they liked whose plan was to destroy both parties and tell them all "You're fired!" Trump's victory is no surprise. He was never a joke. Treating him as one only strengthened him. He is both a creature and a creation of the media and the media will never own that.

5. You must say this sentence to everyone you meet today: "HILLARY CLINTON WON THE POPULAR VOTE!" The MAJORITY of our fellow Americans preferred Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump. Period. Fact. If you woke up this morning thinking you live in an effed-up country, you don't. The majority of your fellow Americans wanted Hillary, not Trump. The only reason he's president is because of an arcane, insane 18th-century idea called the Electoral College. Until we change that, we'll continue to have presidents we didn't elect and didn't want. You live in a country where a majority of its citizens have said they believe there's climate change, they believe women should be paid the same as men, they want a debt-free college education, they don't want us invading countries, they want a raise in the minimum wage and they want a single-payer true universal health care system. None of that has changed. We live in a country where the majority agree with the "liberal" position. We just lack the liberal leadership to make that happen (see: #1 above).

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There were countless more such examples of prominent liberals accusing the press of bias and propaganda long after the fact, even as the press itself refuses to admit any guilt, while itself blaming others, and so the circle continues to turn, and nothing changes in a world in which nobody knows what happens next now that the status quo has been crushed by the people.

Finally, speaking of Saturday Night Live sketches, we can't wait to see how the liberal "comedy" show - which just like the NYT existed in a world of its own throughout the presidential campaign - spins the election results tonight.

SOURCE (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-12/liberal-media-turns-itself-nyt-promoses-rededicate-itself-honest-reporting)

[Chester]

Hervé posted this on another thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94417-Done-conceded-and-acknowledged-45th-US-president-Donald-Trump&p=1113316&viewfull=1#post1113316)... I felt it also belonged on this one...


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Wayne MADSEN | 11.11.2016 | WORLD
The Clintons and Soros launch
America’s Purple Revolution (http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/11/11/clintons-and-soros-launch-america-purple-revolution.html)



Hillary's attire when she delivered her "concession speech."

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"Just a coincidence... nothing to worry about." (David Icke)

[bluestflame]

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[norman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY3nRgEZTm8



The look on the face of that woman on the left is so loaded with bias and guilt.

[Cidersomerset]

Coping with Trump: Schools offer post-election counseling, cry-ins & therapy dogs

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Published on 11 Nov 2016

School districts and universities across the country are offer counseling services to
students after Donald Trump’s victory in the presidential election. Students at
Cornell University even staged a “cry-in” on campus the day after the election. To
discuss, legal and media analyst, Lionel, of Lionel Media joins RT America’s Ed Schultz.


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Pollster eats bug after Trump win

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Published on 12 Nov 2016

Poll expert Sam Wang said he would eat a bug if Donald Trump got more than 240
electoral votes. President-elect Donald Trump got 290 electoral votes and Wang
held up his end of the deal.



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Here we have the NYT trying to dig themselves out of the dirty little hole
they've volunteerily placed themselves in...

This article was on Davids headline page as well.....

New York Times publisher vows to 'rededicate' paper to reporting honestly

By David on 13 November 2016 GMT Useless Media


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New York Times publisher vows to 'rededicate' paper to reporting honestly

Published November 12, 2016
FoxNews.com


‘The publisher of The New York Times penned a letter to readers Friday promising
that the paper would “reflect” on its coverage of this year’s election while rededicating
itself to reporting on “America and the world” honestly.

Arthur O. Sulzberger Jr., the paper’s embattled publisher, appealed to Times readers
for their continued support.

“We cannot deliver the independent, original journalism for which we are known
without the loyalty of our subscribers,” the letter states.’

Read more: New York Times publisher vows to ‘rededicate’ paper to reporting honestly

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/12/new-york-times-publisher-vows-to-rededicate-itself-to-reporting-honestly.html

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Henry Kissinger on Donald Trump: 'He cannot reinvent history'- BBC Newsnight

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Published on 11 Nov 2016

The BBC's Andrew Neil speaks to Henry Kissinger about Donald Trump's election.

Newsnight is the BBC's flagship news and current affairs TV programme - with
analysis, debate, exclusives, and robust interviews.

[Bob]

Post 1035 above from Turiya (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90590-TRANSITIONED-into-Trump&p=1113508&viewfull=1#post1113508), was edited to show a valid article from Zero Hedge:

- Russia Bans Soros Foundation As A "Threat To National Security And Constitutional Order" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-30/russia-bans-soros-foundation-threat-national-security-and-constitutional-order)
by Tyler Durden

referencing my earlier post on Soros and the "Purple Revolution" as cited in Zero Hedge - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-12/anti-trump-us-color-revolution-includes-soros-and-clinton-%E2%80%98purple%E2%80%99-takeover-0



Billionaire Globalist Soros Exposed as Hidden Hand Behind Trump Protests — Provoking US ‘Color Revolution’ … Billionaire globalist financier George Soros’ MoveOn.org has been revealed to be a driving force behind the organizing of nationwide protests against the election of Donald Trump — exposing the protests to largely be an organized, top-down operation — and not an organic movement of concerned Americans taking to the streets as reported by the mainstream media. -Free Thought Project

additional: http://www.thedailybell.com/news-analysis/anti-trump-us-color-revolution-includes-soros-and-clinton-purple-takeover/

-- reference to post - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90590-TRANSITIONED-into-Trump&p=1113481&viewfull=1#post1113481
just a bit of a caveat handed to me yesterday talking with that Soros supporter - they said you better stop looking into the Soros details and stick with your expertise. My reply was people and life matter, and the "drain the swamp", the solution of fixing the "monster" behind the Healthcare/big pharma/highly commercialized "medicine" are key. That even the supporters of Bernie would understand key area "nationalization" is the solution of where the organized crime of price-fixed medicine can be stopped almost instantly. The Soros supporter shut up.

-- dealing with the sedition is the necessary focus. Creating immediate relief for people unable to have medical care, (including low cost quality medicines), diagnostics. PROMPT medical care is essential, not as how we have seen our veterans being "put on hold" for months or years before even getting an appointment.. I am sure the horrific "wait times" in other countries are on the minds of those needing care. Improperly run nationalized programs are horrible. A proper "oversight stewardship program" to deal with "public programs" devoid of the bureaucracy red tape can be accomplished.

-- the big 3 - nationalizing medicine (drugs/treatment/care), nationalizing energy (discovery/production/distribution), and nationalizing telecommunications. Interwoven is transportation/housing. A complete analysis is needed, much bigger than a set of simple posts can touch upon..

references: health care for veterans issue - https://www.texastribune.org/2014/06/12/perry-proposes-plan-texas-veterans-health-care/


Texas VA clinics have some of the longest patient wait times in the nation, according to a federal report released Monday.

Perry said reports of “endless waits” at Texas VA clinics are “just unacceptable.”

[turiya]

Clif High discusses.... use of Mind Control... Deep State moving pushing for a war with Russia... Isaac Asimov... Mathematics in Social Engineering... 21%... Entrainment Technology that's been developed within that last 60 years (Cold War Era) used to bring about a Global Elitists vision... the attainment of that vision failed... as a result of that failure is the reason why all this reaction that is presently happening.... this will continue until the morning of the 19th... and more...


Huge Crisis Headed Our Way,
Credit Freeze, Bank Runs & Riots:Clif High
(Published on Nov 11, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sSBCTGbMHw______________________


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THE DEEP STATE WILL BE HAVING PROBLEMS
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[Cidersomerset]

Nigel doing the media rounds , the UK liberal press still won't take him seriously...

Nigel Farage Becomes First British Politician To Meet Donald Trump Since Election

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Published on 13 Nov 2016
Nigel Farage Becomes First British Politician To Meet Donald Trump Since Election



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Nigel Farage reacts to Donald Trump's victory

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Published on 13 Nov 2016

Leader of the UK Independence Party weighs in on 'Fox & Friends'

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Brexit Leader Nigel Farage On Pres-Elect Trump's Victory - Cavuto

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Published on 12 Nov 2016
Brexit Leader Nigel Farage On Pres-Elect Trump's Victory - Cavuto




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Nigel Farage and Donald Trump in Jackson Mississippi - Brexit Debate

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Published on 12 Nov 2016


Nigel Farage and Donald Trump in Jackson Mississippi - Brexit.
Nigel Farage speaks at Republican campaign with Donald Trump about Brexit.

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Nigel Farage European Freedom Awards Stockholm Sweden 2016-11-04

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Published on 4 Nov 2016
European Freedom Awards 206-11-04

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Musical Interlude.....


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Music video by Sting performing Englishman In New York. (C) 1987 A&M Records

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UK Party Leader: Time to Mend Fences with Trump

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Published on 13 Nov 2016
The head of the "Leave" movement that won Britain's vote to exit the European
Union on Sunday spoke of his private meeting with Donald Trump in positive terms.
(Nov. 13)

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US election: Conservatives 'nasty' to Trump, says Farage | BBC News

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2 hours ago


UKIP leader Nigel Farage has said it is time for British politicians to "mend fences"
with President-elect Donald Trump after their criticism of him during the US election
campaign.

Read more
Nigel Farage offers to help UK 'get on with Trump'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37968718

[Cidersomerset]

Judge Jeanine: This wasn't an election, it was a revolution

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Published on 13 Nov 2016

It's been one amazing, unpredictable ride

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What do people in DC think of President-elect Trump?

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Published on 13 Nov 2016

Judge Jeanine takes 'Street Justice' to the White House

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Muslim immigrant explains why she voted for Trump

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Published on 13 Nov 2016
Woman speaks out on 'Fox & Friends'

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Stephen Baldwin and Scott Baio react to Trump's win

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Published on 13 Nov 2016
Actors weigh in on 'Justice with Judge Jeanine'

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Kellyanne Conway Warns Harry Reid to ‘Be Very Careful’ About Characterizing
Trump as a Bigot

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Published on 13 Nov 2016

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Trump goes after The New York Times via Twitter

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Published on 13 Nov 2016

CBS News contributor and New York Times Magazine chief national correspondent
Mark Leibovich joins CBSN to discuss what's next for Donald Trump as he prepares
to transition into the White House, amid a Twitter rant where the president-elect
went after The New York Times.

[turiya]

Brother Nate on...


President Trump
(Published on Nov 11, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXnc2unP3Gs__________________________

Germany’s Merkel issues warning to Trump
(Published on Nov 11, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LDLxYpnd6U__________________________

President Obama at fault for anti-Trump riots?
(Published on Nov 11, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0bePoYVZPA__________________________

SR #1343 – Can the Crooked
Clintons Bribe the Electoral College?
(Published on Nov 13, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKQO_XW_LFE

[norman]

I'm glad I'm hearing a few commentators in the media mention the Soros factor.

Obama should be leaned on hard to make the first statement to calm things down. If he doesn't and Trump is the first to crack the whip, it will feed the fascist media with a fake narrative that he's hitler etc.

[norman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY3nRgEZTm8



The look on the face of that woman on the left is so loaded with bias and guilt.

But it's still a crafty deflection from the real issues like corruption and the fact that the Clintons are the REAL white Trash.

Hillary should only blame herself for greedily loading every chamber of her gun with ammo to shoot at the political right after she got into the White house, instead of talking nice to them to first get elected.

If that's not shooting herself in the foot, what is?

She was promised the fix was good. Well, the fix was big and powerful and running flat out all the way but America despised her so much the landslide was unstoppable. It's obvious that she didn't win the popular vote either. That's just another fiddled statistic to arm the fascist counter attack.

Black is White. and White is Black. Mirror mirror on the wall.

[Cidersomerset]

Giuliani on Anti-Trump Protests: 'Professional Protesters'

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Published on 13 Nov 2016
The former New York City Mayor and Trump Presidential Transition Team
vice chair Rudy Giuliani discusses the aftermath of a hard fought election.

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Trump names Priebus chief of staff, Bannon chief strategist

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Published on 13 Nov 2016
Reaction on 'The Five' to the president-elect's transition decisions

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Trump offered gifts to influence coverage - Megyn Kelly

13 November 2016

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37968490

[Sueanne47]

DT creating his own swamp importing neo con toads from the swamp he just drained :

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[turiya]

Having much empathy for the Cry Babies that are showing themselves, even on this forum... Resisting change makes growing up a difficult & painful process.... Having to take on one's own responsibility... that's why the bird remains in its cage with the door wide open...


http://www.alienghost.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/2011-07-05-Caged-Bird.jpg

____________________________

Steve Pieczenik: Giuliani Will
Throw Clintons' Asses To Jail
(Published on Nov 10, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DFtaHxKSEw

[Star Tsar]

I wonder how leaders of other worlds feel about the newest installment of leader of the "free world"? As he himself likened it all to Brexit.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91634-EU-President-speaks-of-leaders-from-other-planets-who-are-worried-in-EU-Congress

If I may I will share this here:


TMRO

What Will President Elect Trump's Space Policy Look Like?

Published 12th November 2016

We are joined live by Jeff Foust, senior editor at SpaceNews.com to talk about what the incoming President-elect's space policy is shaping up to be.

We wanted to talk space policy as any new incoming president can have huge changes on the direction NASA takes. Emotions are high right now and we just ask that comments remain civil.

Launch coverage:
* Long March 11 Launches XPNAV-1 ( X-ray Pulsar NAVigation)
* Atlas V launches WorldView-4
* Long March 2D launches Yunhai-1

Space News:
* A Failed Solar Panel Likely Blocked Beagle 2
* International Lunar Station is taking shape
* Supermoon this Nov 14th
* SPHERE Reveals Protoplanetary Discs

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[turiya]

The Truth About the Trump Protests
(Published on Nov 10, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d9lm-T87AQ

[turiya]

Published on Nov 13, 2016 - AKA he plans to legalize almost 10,000,000 like I said:



Trump Plans to Deport 2-3 Million
Illegal Immigrants Immediately
(Published on Nov 13, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xbKt5v6dFs

[Sueanne47]

Having much empathy for the Cry Babies that are showing themselves, even on this forum

Have it your own way Turiya, you'll find out the truth soon enough..

[turiya]

Here come dah Judge... a depolorable speaks from the heart...



SR #1342 - Judge Jeanine Fights Back Tears –
The Republic is Saved!
(Published on Nov 12, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW-pDGVZhzo

[turiya]

Stefan interviews Roger Stone: Trump's first administration picks....


Donald Trump: Past, President and Future
Roger Stone and Stefan Molyneux
(Published on Nov 13, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9-KCQefoNo

[A Voice from the Mountains]

I have come with memes and entertaining meltdowns.


The Young Turks have a meltdown on election night

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiWY0iRLV94


How about those tolerant, peaceful, loving liberal protesters?


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxEkSMHXcAAzc0I.jpg

https://i.imgflip.com/1e28hy.jpg

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Flashback: MSM kept trashing the Daybreak poll for showing the truth, that Trump really was ahead.


LAT Should be Ashamed! Times-USC Daybreak Poll Dishonors the Paper!

http://www.citywatchla.com/images/stories/Oct-2016/086d.png

CALBUZZ--Despite Nate Silver’s argument that we should leave the LA Times/USC Dornsife “Daybreak Poll” alone, this poor excuse for a survey has been so wrong so persistently – and has been so constantly cited by Donald Trump as evidence of his campaign success – that it’s time for the Calbuzz Green Eye Shade Division to call them to task.

We’d be tempted to accept Silver’s admonition that all you have to do is add 6 percentage points to Hillary Clinton’s standing in the survey to accommodate for its “house effect,” except for the fact that the survey continues to arrogantly insist that “This chart tracks our best estimate, over time, of how America plans to vote in November.”

World class flapdoodle So we’re sorry to say that our old friends David Lauter of the LA Times and Dan Schnur of USC will forever have to take responsibility* for the single most reckless name-brand survey of the 2016 election season. Even if they succumb to pressure from the polling world and re-weight their flawed sample in the coming weeks so that they end up in the ballpark (like Survey USA usually does), they will have overseen an entire season of faulty, misleading polling that has misinformed the public and given Trump false bragging rights and his allies false hope.

http://www.citywatchla.com/index.php/the-la-beat/12021-lat-should-be-ashamed-times-usc-daybreak-poll-dishonors-the-paper


What's that, FiveThirtyEight? Trump has less than 28.6% chance of winning? (http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#now)


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This man makes a great point. (http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=48926)

[turiya]

https://kauilapele.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/zero_hedge_logo_31.gif
Huma Abedin Said
To Suffer Emotional Breakdown (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-11/huma-abedin-said-suffer-emotional-breakdown)
https://cdn-austrian.economicblogs.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Tyler-Durden_avatar-96x96.jpgby Tyler Durden
Nov 11, 2016 8:34 PM
While most of the attention in the past week has been on Hillary Clinton, and her reaction to the "shocking" election outcome, the reality is that Hillary's life is set with or without the presidency, and absent some major FBI-related escalation, she will live a comfortable life after her separation from politics courtesy of the millions in fees collected from speeches and the money dumped into the Clinton Foundation (whose donors may now demand refunds, as the Clintons no longer have any political favors to repay).

However, one other person who has been far more severely impacted is Hillary's close, right-hand aide, Huma Abedin, whose estranged husband many - including John Podesta himself - claim was the catalyst that caused Hillary's sudden drop in the polls in the week prior to the election, and may have cost Clinton the presidency. Worse, with her boss now out of politics, Huma suddenly finds herself in a dead-end career, with few accomplishments outside of the Clinton campaign to point to, a looming divorce and a potential criminal probe.

Now, according to the Daily Mail, it may have all finally hit Huma, who appears to have suffered an emotional breakdown, weeping "openly as she returns to campaign headquarters where she and her aides ran doomed bid to elect Hillary Clinton."

The UK paper adds that Clinton's closest aide Huma Abedin "wept in the street as she approached the failed campaign's headquarters in Brooklyn."


http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2016/11/06/huma%201_0.jpg

"Abedin ventured out of her Manhattan apartment and went to the office three days after President-elect Donald Trump shocked the world by defeating Clinton. She approached the tall building with stunning views which had until Tuesday been filled with staff an volunteers carrying a bag and a purse. The pain and emotion of the situation were clearly visible on the face of the long-time loyalist, despite the dark large-frame sunglasses that covered her eyes."

The Mail adds that "at one point Abedin's lip quivered and she wiped her eyes as she took the emotional journey back to work."


http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2016/11/06/huma%204_0.jpg

What made the loss especially painful for Huma is that she herself may have played a role in it: two weeks ago it was revealed that the reason the FBI had reopened its Clinton email probe, which caused a sharp drop in her approval rating, was because of the FBI's parallel investigation into the laptop of "her pervert estranged husband Anthony Weiner".


http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2016/11/06/huma%202_0.jpg

It was Comey 'who we think may have cost us the election,' campaign chair John Podesta said on a post-election campaign conference call, The Hill reported. The implication: it was indirectly Anthony Weiner's fault, and thus Huma is left with a big part of the unspoken blame.

After the FBI bombshell, Abedin was suddenly off Clinton's campaign plane for several days, missing high-profile campaign events in swing states with Jennifer Lopez, March Anthony, Beyonce, and Jay Z. But she re-emerged to hold a Washington D.C. fundraiser with Vogue editor Anna Wintour on the Friday before the election where she was photographed smiling.

As the Mail notes, "it isn't known what's in store for the longtime Clinton aide now that her boss isn't going to the White House."

While at the State Department Abedin also was able to get special dispensation to also work part-time for the Clinton-linked firm Teneo as well as the foundation following the birth of her son Jordan, now four.

Campaign employment typically ends immediately after a defeat, as campaign work to pay off vendors and close up shop.

Adding to family difficulties, Weiner has been made virtually unemployable by his sexting scandal. He is currently in a rehab facility that treats people with sexual addictions. He left a job at a PR firm after a revolt from fellow partners at the firm, although he has provided televised commentary on politics in New York.
Then there is the overhang of a possible follow-up probe into Hillary which means that Abedin's future has more than just career uncertainty hanging over it. Trump has warned that he could appoint a special prosecutor to look into Clinton's email scandal. Separately, an FBI investigation into the Clinton Foundation has been under way for some time, looking at allegations of influence peddling. Abedin's role in the foundation is likely to form a part of that probe, especially when she was paid by it and the State Department.

Damaging Wikileaks emails showed her receiving messages from Doug Band, Bill Clinton's right-hand man who effectively ran the foundation until around 2011 asking for State Department access for what he referred to as 'friends of ours' or 'good friend' - and who were also donors to the Foundation.

The discussion over the possibility of a pardon for Clinton herself is also uncomfortable as it would be likely to lead to calls for those who reported to her to be investigated more fully.

On the other hand, a pardon for 40-year-old Abedin would effectively end any possibility of her taking part in public life in the future.

* * *

While we commiserate with Huma who was merely doing the bidding of Hillary and hoping to get ahead, and is hardly responsible for her husband's cheating, the biggest irony in all of it, is that just as Trump's presidential chances were vastly underestimated by everyone, so were his warnings going as far back as 2013 that Anthony Weiner would ultimately cause harm and "calamity" to those around him.


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Not only did Weiner bring down Huma, he may have also cost Hillary the presidency. If only someone had taken Trump seriously back then, Hillary Clinton may well have been president today.

SOURCE (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-11/huma-abedin-said-suffer-emotional-breakdown)

[bluestflame]

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[norman]

How about those tolerant, peaceful, loving liberal protesters?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxEkSMHXcAAzc0I.jpg



These maps are stunning if they are for real. Where can I find the source material for them ?

It's OK, I found out they are bogus here:
http://www.snopes.com/crime-rates-democrats-vote/

[Arcturian108]

I am a life-long Democrat, who never voted for a Republican candidate. This year I voted for Trump. I was influenced by my own early New York City background, with better understanding of who Trump is growing up in that multi-cultural setting, and I was influenced by my spirit guides, (yes, my spirit guides) who told me that Trump actually has three high souls (see Your Multiple Souls book for more about this idea):

12th dimensional Wanderer [old, wise E.T.]
11th dimensional Rainbow Spirit (Heals others through the use of color therapy)
12th dimensional Uranian birth soul (currently ruling him)

Furthermore, for any of you astrologers out there, in about a week's time his Vedic astrology is about to deliver him into the most golden period of his life, because he is going into his Jupiterian Dasa from November 17th until November of 2032. This means an era of optimism, and expansion for a man who already is very Jupiterian. Happy about that.

Oh, and by the way, I knew that he would win this election as soon as I heard that he was running.

[KiwiElf]

FINAL 2016 ELECTION NUMBERS
Clinton-Trump

12 November, 2016

Tonight Michigan was finally called for Donald Trump moving his Electoral College (EC) count up to 306 total to Hillary Clinton’s 232.

To all the snowflakes still rioting because you claim Trump did not get the popular vote, get your meds now and prepare to be shocked because the final results are in.

Go see your therapists now – or maybe do a 24/7 yoga until you recover from this shock.

MSM is also hiding from you that Trump CRUSHED Hillary in the Electoral College (EC). As of today, most if not all media outlets show that Trump won the election with only 279 EC votes. But the truth is Trump also won Michigan with 16 EC votes and Arizona with 11 EC votes for a total of 306 EC votes. Hillary only won 228 EC votes but it looks like she barely won New Hampshire which should put her at 232 EC votes. As a result, Trump won 57% of all EC votes.

Popular Vote: Trump: 62,972,226 Clinton: 62,277,750

Electoral College Vote: Trump: 306 Clinton: 232

Source: Gateway Pundit: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/trumps-landslide-by-the-numbers-he-crushed-hillary/

[PurpleLama]

How about those tolerant, peaceful, loving liberal protesters?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxEkSMHXcAAzc0I.jpg



These maps are stunning if they are for real. Where can I find the source material for them ?

It's OK, I found out they are bogus here:
http://www.snopes.com/crime-rates-democrats-vote/

Except Snopes is bogus a lot of the time, too....

[TargeT]

How about those tolerant, peaceful, loving liberal protesters?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxEkSMHXcAAzc0I.jpg



These maps are stunning if they are for real. Where can I find the source material for them ?

It's OK, I found out they are bogus here:
http://www.snopes.com/crime-rates-democrats-vote/

Except Snopes is bogus a lot of the time, too....


Haha, yea, read their explanation that "debunks" it...

Here's the real election by county map:
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2016/countymaprb512.png

2010 crime:
http://startoffhomesteading.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Screen-Shot-2015-12-11-at-4.20.30-PM-1024x692.png

Hate crimes:
https://thumbs.mic.com/OTVhMWRhZGZlMCMvajFYWVp1eVdMZkpjajFpT2IzdDZQZUV0N1MwPS8weDQ5OjgyOHg1NzIvMTI4MHg2MjAvZmlsdGVyczpxdWFs aXR5KDc1KS9odHRwczovL3MzLmFtYXpvbmF3cy5jb20vcG9saWN5bWljLWltYWdlcy82ZDFhMThlMjRkNjg3ZmIzZTVlYjY4OGJh MmFhZDVlMGExZDlkZTBlMTFmYzgwZmI0OTgxNTAwOTliN2Y3ZjEyLmpwZw.jpg

I see a bit of a correlation actually. But that is population IMO... this is why i avoid big cities.

[Eram]

Yeah!

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[TargeT]

Yeah!

gDEV3vo9TbY

That's exactly the kind of talk I want from a president; he gets that our current interventionist policy is a failure clearly by his statements.

[TrumanCash]

President-elect Trump: "I don't want to hurt the Clintons, they are good people" 60 Minutes


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiMnB6t4oUY

So did Trump tell a very big lie when he said he wanted to prosecute Hillary?

Or is this a strategy to hold off an Obama pardon before Jan 20 and catch the Clintons off guard?

[Bob]

Brilliant pick up @TrumanCash.. shhhhhhh.....

[turiya]

Here's another interesting thing coming from this new President...


Donald Trump: I'm Not Going to Take the Salary
(60 Minutes)
(Uploaded November 14, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uspWLBhJOFw

[Eram]

President-elect Trump: "I don't want to hurt the Clintons, they are good people" 60 Minutes


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiMnB6t4oUY

So did Trump tell a very big lie when he said he wanted to prosecute Hillary?

Or is this a strategy to hold off an Obama pardon before Jan 20?

I actually think that he makes a lot of sense here.
Focusing on the important issues, instead of poring energy into sideshows that will go on to divide the nation even further.

[turiya]

President-elect Trump: "I don't want to hurt the Clintons, they are good people" 60 Minutes


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiMnB6t4oUY

So did Trump tell a very big lie when he said he wanted to prosecute Hillary?

Or is this a strategy to hold off an Obama pardon before Jan 20?

I actually think that he makes a lot of sense here.
Focusing on the important issues, instead of poring energy in issues that will go on to divide the nation even further.

Yes, Getting down to the most important things in his presidency is the most primary thing...

People are one thing... Their actions - what they've done - are another... The crimes they committed is another thing altogether... It will be dealt with at the appropriate time. Let them 'sweat it out' for the time being... They are probably already packing their bags - including Obama...

[norman]

The problem with taking Hillary all the way down is that the process of doing so will take down people who are a bigger threat to his presidency than Hillary is now she's been beaten.

[jaybee]

Yeah!

gDEV3vo9TbY

That's exactly the kind of talk I want from a president; he gets that our current interventionist policy is a failure clearly by his statements.


That's the kind of talk I want from the US president as well - and it's music to my ears -

but I don't think the 'interventionists' themselves would consider the policy a failure, in fact until Russia got involved, they probably considered the whole thing was going very well - never mind the suffering of the civilians and the refugee / migrant crisis (which they may have looked on as a bonus as it helped further the aims to weaken European countries from within with multiculturalism?)

What looks like cruel insanity and deception to us seems to be part of a secret agenda to redraw the map of the Middle East ...


http://www.globalresearch.ca/plans-for-redrawing-the-middle-east-the-project-for-a-new-middle-east/3882


Note: The following map was prepared by Lieutenant-Colonel Ralph Peters. It was published in the Armed Forces Journal in June 2006, Peters is a retired colonel of the U.S. National War Academy. (Map Copyright Lieutenant-Colonel Ralph Peters 2006).

Although the map does not officially reflect Pentagon doctrine, it has been used in a training program at NATO’s Defense College for senior military officers. This map, as well as other similar maps, has most probably been used at the National War Academy as well as in military planning circles.

This map of the “New Middle East” seems to be based on several other maps, including older maps of potential boundaries in the Middle East extending back to the era of U.S. President Woodrow Wilson and World War I. This map is showcased and presented as the brainchild of retired Lieutenant-Colonel (U.S. Army) Ralph Peters, who believes the redesigned borders contained in the map will fundamentally solve the problems of the contemporary Middle East.


http://http://www.globalresearch.ca/articlePictures/The%20Project%20for%20the%20New%20Middle%20East.jpg


what Trump will do when they start putting the pressure on and selling the interventions as ''creative destruction and chaos'' and ''necessary pain'' remains to be seen -

especially as 'they' are only part way through the long term plan and won't want to abandon it now - :/


(edit - the map isn't showing upon this post for me but it's on the link with the article)

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[turiya]

Bill Still on the paid protesters...


SR #1345 – Anti-Trump Protesters Paid $35 Per Hour
(Published on Nov 14, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpeSacBp3Jo_______________________

Some may disagree with Steve Pieczenic & what his suggestions to Trump would be. At least for the most part, Steve provides the names of those that Donald Trump should stay away from (mostly neo-cons)...


Dear Donald, This is what we want
(Published on Nov 14, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuwRJYa1S2E

[turiya]

The "Hillary Goes Missing" meme.... could mean that Hillary's life is on the line, as she knows too much about the inner workings of the cabal -- i.e. through her Bankster cartel, Lynn de Forester Rothschild, etc. connections...

Funny thing that Greg mentions that Hillary ended up in Las Vegas, as one of my clients has a daughter (living in D.C.) that worked on the Hillary Campaign.... these clients are always traveling to Las Vegas...

I can only imagine there was a post election private party for members ONLY of 'Team Hillary' in Las Vegas (Sheldon Adelson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Adelson)'s Venetian resort and casino is in Las Vegas)... Clients are coming back from Las Vegas tonight... they are always very discreet about what they are in Las Vegas for - they act like its something secretive.... as they also became aware that I've been a Trump supporter for the past several months, now...


Clif High-DOW & Gold $125,000-Hyperinflation Coming
(Published on Nov 12, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoBRckWwN4g

[norman]

Steve Pieczenic doing his own videos is a sign that he knows he isn't going to be getting air time on the Alex Jones Show much longer, me thinks.

Sure, Hillary is a liability. The one negative about her that DID get through the MSM blocker was her health issues.

Trump may not have to do much, in the end. It could get like gang warfare where the police stand back and let the gangs kill each other off.

Expecting a big trial of Hillary or any of those around her is as hopeless as expecting Lee Harvey Oswald to to have lived long enough to go to trial.

[Flash]

Brake time

A parody on Justin vs Donald (trudeau vs trump) songs and gestures that are funny

IN FRENCH, sorry cannot translate, but truly funny for the French speaking - or those knowing a little of French


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZLmiCtEs9A

[Cidersomerset]

I'm quite optimistic that WW 111 may be averted in short term , unless
the 'Empire Strikes Back' before Obama leaves office.....

Some articles from the web......

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Trump and Putin 'will try to mend ties', Kremlin says
17 minutes ago
From the section US & Canada

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/1D0C/production/_91063470_atrump_putin_compo.gif
Donald Trump praised Vladimir Putin during the election campaign

US President-elect Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin will try
to "normalise US-Russia ties", the Kremlin has said, following a phone conversation
between the two.

Mr Putin wished Mr Trump "success in implementing the election programme".

In the election campaign, Mr Trump had praised Mr Putin, saying he had been "a
leader far more than our president".

Meanwhile, President Barack Obama said Mr Trump had told him he
remained "committed to a strong Nato".

read more...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37981770

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CrossTalk: Bullhorns on Trumplash!

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Published on 14 Nov 2016

Feel the Trumplash! Donald Trump’s stunning upset catapulting him into the White
House has divided Americans and surprised the world. Will his presidency be
equally stunning?

CrossTalking with Jim Rogers, Dmitry Babich, and Pepe Escobar.

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Putin says will try to repair ties with U.S.A under Trump

http://in.reuters.com/article/usa-election-russia-putin-idINKBN134227

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Donald Trump Latest Interview on Syria & Russia | CBS This Morning

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‘Highly inaccurate’: Trump picks Twitter fight with NY Times

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Published on 14 Nov 2016

On the same day he promised a more “restrained” approach to social media,
Donald Trump fired off a series of tweets directed at the New York Times. The
paper says that it reported on both candidates “fairly” during the race, but Trump
does not agree.

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‘We’re losing this country, that’s why I won election easily’ – Trump to CBS

By David on 14 November 2016 GMT

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‘We’re losing this country, that’s why I won election easily’ – Trump to CBS

Published time: 14 Nov, 2016 11:30

Edited time: 14 Nov, 2016 12:57

https://www.rt.com/usa/366857-donald-trump-interview-cbs/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

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RT's Peter Lavelle interviews Dr. Ron Paul ( I might of already posted this ?)....

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Published on 11 Nov 2016

With the surprise election of Donald Trump, can we expect an equally surprising
foreign policy from him? During the campaign he provided us with a glimpse of his
thinking. Will there be a Trump Doctrine?! RT'S PETER LAVELLE INTERVIEWS DR. RON PAUL

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Donald Trump's Russian Connections | The New York Times

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Published on 10 Nov 2016
Donald J. Trump and Vladimir V. Putin have exchanged many compliments over the
past year. We looked at the basis of the mutual respect between the two men who
have never met.

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Cal Thomas: Trump doesn't need the media

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Published on 14 Nov 2016
Bias Bash: Cal Thomas weighs in on how the media is portraying Trump's future presidency

[turiya]

Stefan talks NYT Obsurdly lopsided bias for Clinton, as well as the Russian, Trump is Dangerous, crap & garbage memes...



New York Times: An Obituary and Postmortem
(Published on Nov 14, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ0wk_Xi7H4

[A Voice from the Mountains]

These maps are stunning if they are for real. Where can I find the source material for them ?

It's OK, I found out they are bogus here:
http://www.snopes.com/crime-rates-democrats-vote/

Snopes is a joke man. It's not a credible source. It's run by two liberals who use Google search.

This is the couple that runs Snopes:

http://worldtruth.tv/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/102210_1614_somuchforsn11.png


Or, as someone else put it in a meme....

http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/14350836_298429280514707_1542263586_n.jpg

These guys are such experts in everything that they even "debunk" the idea that 9/11 was an inside job and that aspartame is bad for you. Their source on aspartame? The FDA itself!

Like I said, these people are a joke and you'd be doing yourself a favor to stop taking anything they post seriously.

It's not a secret that the highest crime rates are in urban areas. And it's not a secret that urban areas overwhelmingly vote Democrat while small towns and rural areas overwhelmingly vote Republican. So what the meme shows is in fact accurate on that basis alone, which is the entire point it's trying to convey to you.

[Cidersomerset]

Obama on Trump Pragmatism: 'That Can Serve Him Well'

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Published on 14 Nov 2016
Obama on Trump Pragmatism | "As long as he's got good people around him and
he has a clear sense of direction," President Obama thinks Trump can be successful.

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"Think of Trump as moment of opportunity" - BoJo

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Published on 14 Nov 2016
Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson urges people to not "pre-judge" Donald Trump
at EU summit in Brussels.

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MoneyWatch: Russian Investors Reacts to Trump Victory

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Published on 14 Nov 2016
Russian Direct Investment Fund is a $10 Billion fund to attract investors to Russia.
The fund also invests in projects outside of Russia. Kirill Dmitriev, Chief Executive
of RDIF sits with CBS News to discuss Donald Trump's election, his relationship with
Russia and Russian Investments.

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Cavuto: What a difference a week makes

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Published on 14 Nov 2016
Remember when Hillary couldn't lose and Trump couldn't win?

[ThePythonicCow]

Trump continuing to aggressively attack Hillary Clinton would be felt by those who supported her as an attack on them. His saying Hillary is a good person will be felt by Hillary's supporters as Trump saying they are good people ... such fence mending with Hillary's supporters is a good choice by Trump right now.

[turiya]

Trump continuing to aggressively attack Hillary Clinton would be felt by those who supported her as an attack on them. His saying Hillary is a good person will be felt by Hillary's supporters as Trump saying they are good people ... such fence mending with Hillary's supporters is a good choice by Trump right now.

Good insight! Totally agree. There's plenty of time to prosecute, besides she may be a target for those that she knows the names of... Deep State would find it to their displeasure to be outed by one of their minions.

Meanwhile, Soros has upped the pay for protesters to $35/hour... as Portland is under seige...



https://kauilapele.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/zero_hedge_logo_31.gif
Blocks Of Anti-Trump
Protest Buses Caught On Tape (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-13/blocks-anti-trump-protest-buses-caught-tape)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Nov 14, 2016 9:53 AM

Earlier today we showed that, contrary (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-13/anti-trump-protests-proof-professional-activist-involvement) to USA Today's claims (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/11/12/trump-protesters-resounding-message-no-national-mandate/93712268/) that the anti-Trump protests across the nation are "spontaneous, involving people from all walks of life", according to Wikileaks documents at least two of the people profiled by USA Today have a history of being professional agitators for the Democratic party, whose task is to stir up popular protests and - in extreme cases - unleash rioting, such as the following clip showing the latest day of violent protests in Portland revealed.


http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/WIKILEAKS_TWE/OTHER_TWEETS/RUPTLY_POLICE_ANTI_TRUMP_PROTESTERS_AS_PORTLAND_CH AOS_CONTINUES.png (https://twitter.com/Ruptly/status/797774783375024128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_Q3wVNwhgw

Now, courtesy of a Zero Hedge reader, we have visual confirmation of how a substantial portion of these professional, paid protesters arrive at the site of the protest, in this case Chicago.

As our reader notes, "I have a video of 5 city blocks on the West side of Chicago lined with busses from Wisconsin (Badger Bus Lines) bringing in protestors. The Sears tower is visible in the background."

The video was taken at 3:30pm on South Canal Street in Chicago on Saturday. As our reader points out, hundreds of the participants that took part in the downtown Chicago protests from November 12 were bused in using these vehicles. Other arrived by train.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OVHb-zc4Lw

SOUROS (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-13/blocks-anti-trump-protest-buses-caught-tape)

[Rocky_Shorz]

Trump stated Silverstein, who bought the world trade center one week before the attack, is a very good friend...

The voters were sold this...

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/dddt1.gif

We heard his incredible speech, but looks like he is happy to only drain half the swamp.

How long until he gets swallowed by the part he didn't drain...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrNpPyLbDH4

[turiya]

For those that have an interest... Here is that 60 Minutes (13-November) Trump Interview...


President-elect Trump
Speaks to a Divided Country
on 60 Minutes (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/)

What can we expect from a Trump presidency?
60 Minutes' Lesley Stahl finds some of his campaign
issues were not meant to be taken literally,
but as opening bids for negotiation

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/60_MINUTES_DONALD_and_MELANIA_YOUTUBE_FIT.png (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/)

SOURCE (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/)

[norman]

These maps are stunning if they are for real. Where can I find the source material for them ?

It's OK, I found out they are bogus here:
http://www.snopes.com/crime-rates-democrats-vote/


Or, as someone else put it in a meme....

http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/14350836_298429280514707_1542263586_n.jpg



Ok so Snopes are a liberal couple with a cat. What they showed me was that the Crime map was an old murders map. They showed me the election results were not the 2016 presidential results.

From my point of view, and my level interest in them, that was my research done.

[Cidersomerset]

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Barack Obama seeks to calm US allies over Trump concerns

25 minutes ago
From the section US & Canada

President Barack Obama has sought to assure US allies that President-elect Donald
Trump will honour the country's international alliances when he takes office in January.

Read More...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37981572

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Obama: Trump set for White House reality check

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Published on 15 Nov 2016
Obama used a measured but warning tone ...... saying that he has told the President
elect he needs to show he can bring a divided nation back together."I did say to him
as I've said publicly that because of the nature of the campaigns and the bitterness
and ferocity of the campaigns that it's really important to try to send some signals of unity".


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Media ‘preaches to each other,’ & ‘needs an intervention’ – Lionel

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Published on 14 Nov 2016
The media is just getting over its election hangover after Donald Trump’s win came
as a shock to the establishment. The recovery process could be a long one. Legal
and media analyst Lionel of Lionel Media joins ‘News With Ed’ for analysis.

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Maddows loses it on election night ....

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Published on 14 Nov 2016
Most in the mainstream media completely dismissed Donald Trump’s chances at
winning the Republican presidential nomination early in his candidacy. When Trump
defeated Clinton to secure the presidency, many in the mainstream media were
shocked. Will Trump’s victory lead to a wake-up call? RT America’s Alexey
Yaroshevsky has the report.

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Putin, Trump hold first phone conversation since election

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Published on 14 Nov 2016

US President-elect Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin have held
their first telephone call, in which the two leaders discussed Syria and agreed to
improve and develop bilateral ties, the Kremlin said in a statement.

Trump’s team has issued a statement saying Trump is 'very much looking forward
to having a strong and enduring relationship with Russia and the people of Russia'.
RT's Gayane Chichakyan and Michael Hughes, Journalist and foreign policy
strategist, talk on the issue.

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Published on 15 Nov 2016
Fox News senior judicial analyst explains

[Cidersomerset]

Steve Bannon discuss ...various media debates..


Roger Stone: Donald Trump Will Keep His Promise To Save The Republic

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Published on 14 Nov 2016
Alex Jones talks with Trump insider Roger Stone about what Donald Trump will do once he is officially in office.

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Published on 14 Nov 2016

A CNN panel tonight got pretty heated over Donald Trump choosing Steve Bannon
to be chief strategist in the White House.Van Jones said it sends a message who
the president appoints, while Kayleigh McEnany argued that the Bannon hire
illustrates Trump’s desire not to be surrounded by Washington insiders.

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RNC Member Tears Into CNN Anchor Over Bannon, Accuses Her Of Reading DNC
Talking Points

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Published on 14 Nov 2016
During a heated discussion on CNN this morning, anchor Kate Bolduan got into a
tense back-and-forth with Republican National Committee member Randy Evans
over President-elect Donald Trump’s hiring of Breitbart’s Steve Bannon as chief
strategist.

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CNN Carol Costello on Trump Hiring Steve Bannon: ‘White Nationalists Embrace This Man’

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Published on 14 Nov 2016
During a panel discussion on CNN this morning, anchor Carol Costello asked the
panelists how President-elect Donald Trump can be credited with softening his
rhetoric towards minorities when he’s hired Breitbart’s Steve Bannon as his chief
strategist.

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President-Elect Trump's WH Appointments Draw Criticism

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Published on 15 Nov 2016
Trump appointed Republican insider and outgoing RNC chairman Reince Priebus as
his chief of staff and campaign chair Steve Bannon as his chief strategist.

[Cidersomerset]

Trump stated Silverstein, who bought the world trade center one week
before the attack, is a very good friend...


On 9/11 he seems to be sticking to the Bin - Laden ' Fairy Tale ' he is not going
down that rabbit hole unfortunately. But you never know with the Donald ? A lot
depends on his advisors and his relationship with the 'Deep State ' string pullers....

Rudy Giuliani is a close advisor and he has 9/11 skeletons in the closet .....

9/11 Suspects: Rudy Giuliani
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl85JSvDmsA

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93118-9-11-Suspects-Rudy-Giuliani


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With Christmas approaching will we get another ' False flag ' Fairy tale of New York.....

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This is interesting Donald does speculates bombs were involved and I think this
maybe recorded on the day or near it ? His immediate gut reaction is that planes
could not have brought down the towers on their own.

Its part of the vid posted by Rocky above....

DONALD TRUMP ON 9/11 TRUTH

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Published on 13 Sep 2016
He makes a better point than most...

[turiya]

Trump stated Silverstein, who bought the world trade center one week
before the attack, is a very good friend...

On 9/11 he seems to be sticking to the Bin - Laden ' Fairy Tale ' he is not going
down that rabbit hole unfortunately. But you never know with the Donald ? A lot
depends on his advisors and his relationship with the 'Deep State ' string pullers....

Rudy Giuliani is a close advisor and he has 9/11 skeletons in the closet .....

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93118-9-11-Suspects-Rudy-Giuliani


Yes, agree. If Breitbart's, Steve Bannon (now Trump's Chief Strategist), has any influence, then it probably won't go any further than 'the Muslims did it' (aka Muslim Brotherhood, Saudi Arabia). There is this opinion piece I found by NYT writer Maureen Dowd entitled "An Open Letter From Mr. Trump" (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/opinion/sunday/an-open-letter-from-mr-trump.html)... which has the following passage (keep in mind that this is an Opinion Piece by NYT writer Maureen Dowd written 20-August 2016)...



Steve and I have so much in common.
We both love crazy conspiracy theories,
like the one Bannon peddles about Huma
being tied to the Islamic group who funded 9/11.
I’m sorry Huma is posing for Vogue
instead of keeping her husband, the pervert,
from sexting online again.

It seems, because of his daughter's marriage to an Israeli man, this will prevent him from going as far as the notion that it was an 'Inside Job' involving the Israeli Intelligence - Mossad - and the CIA.

But at least this country will not be moving further into an agenda that the Globalists have planned out for this nation - at least for the next several years... as Steve Bannon is on the same page with Trump with regards to Nationalism vs Globalism.

Just have to see how things develop from here... Trump does seem to be a quick learner... no doubt, 'they' - the Deep State - will be making efforts to brainwash him on certain issues.

[TargeT]

Awe man, the Trump HoneyMoon seems like it's already over... & he's not even in office yet!

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Do you have the sinking feeling that Trump may start backing off his promises now that he's in power. Is there the niggling doubt that the banksters, criminals and party insiders he's surrounding himself with may not follow through on that draining of the swamp? Never fear! You can show you're a person of integrity by taking the #TrumpPledge.

[Cidersomerset]

Awe man, the Trump HoneyMoon seems like it's already over... & he's not even in office yet!

Quote Do you have the sinking feeling that Trump may start backing off his promises now that he's
in power. Is there the niggling doubt that the banksters, criminals and party insiders he's surrounding
himself with may not follow through on that draining of the swamp? Never fear! You can show you're
a person of integrity by taking the #TrumpPledge.

Yep....


But I'm still open , and he will still stop some of the agendas that would of
happened under a Hillary , Soros , neo - con/dem administration. Though
the pro Israel policy will not change.


But as turiya says....


It seems, because of his daughter's marriage to an Israeli man, this will prevent him from going
as far as the notion that it was an 'Inside Job' involving the Israeli Intelligence - Mossad, and the CIA.

But at least this country will not be moving further into an agenda that the Globalists have planned out
for this nation - at least for the next several years... Have to see how things develop from here.

That's my gut reaction as well , it depends on a lot of things the usual 'blackmail tapes' or some other
control mechanism to stop his clean up plans and lobbyist influence. He seems to have had a lot of
inside help already so this will be a fun ride if nothing else , unless they do muzzle him somehow.

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Well the Stones seem to agree ...LOL

The Rolling Stones react to Trump's election

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[turiya]

Awe man, the Trump HoneyMoon seems like it's already over... & he's not even in office yet!

Quote Do you have the sinking feeling that Trump may start backing off his promises now that he's
in power. Is there the niggling doubt that the banksters, criminals and party insiders he's surrounding
himself with may not follow through on that draining of the swamp? Never fear! You can show you're
a person of integrity by taking the #TrumpPledge.

Yep....


But I'm still open , and he will still stop some of the agendas that would of
happened under a Hillary , Soros , neo - con/dem administration. Though
the pro Israel policy will not change.


But as turiya says....


It seems, because of his daughter's marriage to an Israeli man, this will prevent him from going
as far as the notion that it was an 'Inside Job' involving the Israeli Intelligence - Mossad, and the CIA.

But at least this country will not be moving further into an agenda that the Globalists have planned out
for this nation - at least for the next several years... Have to see how things develop from here.

That's my gut reaction as well , it depends on a lot of things the usual 'blackmail tapes' or some other
control mechanism to stop his clean up plans and lobbyist influence. He seems to have had a lot of
inside help already so this will be a fun ride if nothing else , unless they do muzzle him somehow.

I do believe that there are those in the U.S. Intelligence Community that want to apprise Donald on things that he is not completely informed on.

That's why Steve Pieczenik has stepped forward in revealing / unveiling himself as to what his appearance is. Someone mentioned here on this thread that Alex Jones may not be having Steve Piecznik on as a guest anymore, and is the reason why he is coming out with his most recent videos regarding Deep State strategies & involvement. Alex Jones has always steered away from the notion that the Israeli Intelligence had something to do with the 9/11 event (for whatever reason it is).

Whereas, Steve Pieczenik has brought this up on an Alex Jones show years before...

I get the sense, from his videos & his recent interviews on Alex Jones, that he would like to be able to have access to Donald Trump...


Dr. Steve Pieczenik: Osama Bin Laden on
CIA/British Intelligence/Mossad Payrolls
(Uploaded on May 6, 2011)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57AXdbUQNJY______________________

No More False Flags, No More B^!!$#!%!
(Published on Nov 14, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLtoANsg2AM

[Cidersomerset]

That's why Steve Pieczenik has stepped forward in revealing / unveiling
himself as to what his appearance is

Yeah that's what I mean .......

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From last nights show , the BBC are still 'offish' imo.....This is why the British
public who only follow the mainstream has a 'skewed' view of Trump...

BBC News night U'tube.....https://www.youtube.com/user/BBCNewsnight/videos

Nigel Farage, Donald Trump and me: Raheem Kassam - BBC Newsnight

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Published on 15 Nov 2016
Stephen Bannon, from the right-wing Breitbart News website, has been chosen by
Donald Trump as his chief strategist. Former UKIP leadership candidate Raheem
Kassam works for Breitbart and knows Mr Bannon. He also met president-elect
Donald Trump at the weekend, together with Nigel Farage. He spoke to Evan Davis.

Newsnight is the BBC's flagship news and current affairs TV programme - with
analysis, debate, exclusives, and robust interviews.

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Donald Trump: Is democracy under threat? DEBATE - BBC Newsnight

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Published on 15 Nov 2016
Is democracy under threat after Donald Trump's victory in the US presidential
election? That's what some argue. Evan Davis discussed with Angie Hobbs,
Professor of the Public Understanding of Philosophy at the University of Sheffield
and with Matthew Parris from the Times.

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Is Donald Trump racist? Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie v R Emmett Tyrrell - BBC Newsnight

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Published on 11 Nov 2016
Is Donald Trump racist? Nigerian novelist Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie and the editor
in chief of the American Spectator, R Emmett Tyrrell clash on the issue in a
discussion with Emily Maitlis.

[ThePythonicCow]

Whether or not, or to what extent, that Donald Trump does, or does not, follow through on the expectations he created in his supporters, or the fears he created in his opposition, might be in large part drama, that obscures the shift taking place, and that is intended to gain substantial buy-in, from many Americans, to that shift.

Presently it seems to me that Trump is engaged in the customary shift from being a "candidate of a party", to being the "President of all the people." Regardless of his intent, or of where this is going, if Trump intends to preside with any substantial popular support, such a shift is routine and appropriate at this time.

I anticipate a global shift from a unipolar American hegemony and currency, to a kinder, gentler (at least in initial appearances) multi-polar, multi-currency, world order, still under the auspices of a few, powerful, mostly covert, powers on this planet.

[norman]

Whether or not, or to what extent, that Donald Trump does, or does not, follow through on the expectations he created in his supporters, or the fears he created in his opposition, might be in large part drama, that obscures the shift taking place, and that is intended to gain substantial buy-in, from many Americans, to that shift.

Presently it seems to me that Trump is engaged in the customary shift from being a "candidate of a party", to being the "President of all the people." Regardless of his intent, or of where this is going, if Trump intends to preside with any substantial popular support, such a shift is routine and appropriate at this time.

I anticipate a global shift from a unipolar American hegemony and currency, to a kinder, gentler (at least in initial appearances) multi-polar, multi-currency, world order, still under the auspices of a few, powerful, mostly covert, powers on this planet.

On a very grand big picture scale, what Britain and America have just done is loosen up their negotiating positions in advance of a hard round of haggling over the final compaction of the new word order.

[Carmody]

Swamp Drains Trump (http://www.marketslant.com/articles/wall-st-elites-move-swamp-drains-your-wallet)

Until you commitment and involvement is total, you will continue to get the same parasite.

Your commitment must equal that of the parasite, and the parasite finds that their life depends upon their involvement in stealing and eating your life.

Their involvement is of their nature and is total, complete. Their success, it's quality and levels... involves not being felt or seen, as is possible.

Where is your competing and involved life and energies? Remember...total, just like their core level direct and living involvement and commitment.

[turiya]

More on the riots across America... Lesley Stahl, is she really that stupid?


Matt Bracken: CBS Lesley Stahl - is She Really That Stupid?
(Published November 15, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm_koO2NlMk_____________________________

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Who's Behind The Portland Riots?
60% Of Arrested Anti-Trump Protesters
Were From Out Of State, Didn't Vote (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-15/whos-behind-portland-riots-60-arrested-anti-trump-protesters-were-out-state-didnt-vo)
https://www.lfs.net/dynamic/avatar/2/a405792.2.pngby Tyler Durden
Nov 15, 2016 1:34 PM

Two months ago (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-22/who-behind-riots-charlotte-police-says-70-arrested-protesters-had-out-state-ids), Charlotte police confirmed that 70% of those arrested during the riots were from out-of-state. 18 months before that (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-17/mysterious-sponsor-behind-ferguson-protests-and-media-campaign-george-soros), as the riots flared in Ferguson, George Soros spurred the protest movement through years of funding and mobilizing groups across the U.S., according to financial records reviewed by The Washington Times. (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/14/george-soros-funds-ferguson-protests-hopes-to-spur/) And now, amid more headlines of Soros' involvement, KGW reports (http://www.kgw.com/news/local/more-than-half-of-arrested-anti-trump-protesters-didnt-vote/351964445) that more than half of the anti-Trump protesters arrested in Portland were from out of state.


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At least sixty-nine demonstrators either didn’t turn in a ballot or weren’t registered to vote in the state.

KGW compiled a list of the 112 people arrested by the Portland Police Bureau during recent protests. Those names and ages, provided by police, were then compared to state voter logs by Multnomah County Elections officials.

Records show 34 of the protesters arrested didn’t return a ballot for the November 8 election. Thirty-five of the demonstrators taken into custody weren’t registered to vote in Oregon.

Twenty-five protesters who were arrested did vote.

KGW is still working to verify voting records for the remaining 17 protesters who were arrested.

In other words over 60% of the arrested protesters in Portland were not local voters dismayed by the election of Donald Trump.

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And so - just as in Ferguson and Charlotte - we see what appears to be professional agitators popping up at key times to encourage social unrest (which as we recently detailed were funded from George Soros' MoveOn.org (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-13/anti-trump-protests-proof-professional-activist-involvement)), all of which perhaps explains why these 'professionals' were so adamant not be filmed or 'caught on tape' as GatewayPundit reports (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/reporters-attacked-warned-not-film-anti-trump-riots/), reporters in Portland, Oregon were attacked by anti-Trump rioters Sunday night, according to Portland Police. The protesters also handed out leaflets warning people to not record the riots.

The text of the leaflet reads:

- DON’T SNITCH, EVER.
- PUT DOWN YOUR CELLPHONES AND PARTICIPATE
- DO NOT HELP THE POLICE IN IDENTIFYING PERSONS ENGAGED IN ILLEGAL ACTIVITY
- DON’T POST PROTEST VIDEOS TO SOCIAL MEDIA
- A FEW THINGS YOU CAN DO:
- JOIN, CELEBRATE, SHOW YOUR RAGE
- YELL **** THE POLICE
- DRINK SOME WATER AND CHILL
- SHARE FOOD
- COLLABORATE
- FIND ONE ANOTHER
- KEEP PEOPLE SAFE FROM PHYSICAL HARM
- STOP FILMING.
- CONSIDER THIS A WARNING.

One reporter, Mike Bivins, who was threatened by the pro-Hillary mob decided to not report the threats but changed his mind after the announcement by police that a news crew had been attacked. Bivins is student at Portland State University and was reporting for PSU”s Pacific Sentinel.

“I wasn’t gonna mention it, but at the outset of the Pioneer Square march masked protesters warned me not to film them. #PortlandProtest”

Fellow PSU student Andy Ngo who writes for PSU’s Vanguard student newspaper posted an image of the threatening leaflet.


MORE AT LINK: SOUROS (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-15/whos-behind-portland-riots-60-arrested-anti-trump-protesters-were-out-state-didnt-vo)



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[norman]

With so much self administered cool aide, the gulf between what Trump stands for and even the most eloquent media talking head is frighteningly futile.

It's like how a relationship breaks down due to a failure to communicate or navigate through the manipulated feminism revolt. The battle ground out there now is the process of finding out which 'parent' the kids want to be with.

Recent history in these matters suggests Trump will have a tough time getting to be much more than a McDonalds Dad.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

I think it's interesting that you are comparing authority to parents, norman. Stefan Molyneux was just pointing out in a video the other day that when we are children, our parents pay all our bills, put food on the table, and take care of everything for us. And this happens to be exactly what communists and socialists want. They want the government to be their parents and take care of everything for them. In other words they just love these big authoritarian states like China because they have no sense of personal responsibility, seem to have a child-like mentality and are just looking for a mommy and daddy to take care of them.

I think that's a pretty accurate assessment of the situation, especially when you read headlines like the University of Michigan giving students coloring books and play doh to help them calm down after the election. That says it all. You can't make this stuff up.



Ok so Snopes are a liberal couple with a cat. What they showed me was that the Crime map was an old murders map. They showed me the election results were not the 2016 presidential results.

From my point of view, and my level interest in them, that was my research done.

I can search Google too so I guess that makes me equally qualified as Snopes.

This is the 2016 election map, county by county:

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2016/countymaprb512.png

http://www.ijreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/murder_rate.png


But don't worry. Snopes, the same people that assure you that aspartame is safe because the FDA said so, and that 9/11 definitely wasn't an inside job, also tell you that the above correlation is "false."

Anybody who knows anything about crime rates knows that the worst crime rates are in the big cities like Chicago, Washington DC, New York City, New Orleans, etc., in other words all of the same places that always vote Democrat and often have very strict gun laws as well. These places are living examples of failed liberal policies and mentality.

[Star Tsar]

Open Minds UFO Radio

Grant Cameron - UFO Disclosure & Donald Trump

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Published 15th November 2016

Founder of PresidentialUFO.com Grant Cameron has been followng presidential ufo history for decades and the recent campaign he has had a lot of work to do with Hilary's campaign manager being a UFO "enthusiast". This has been reflected in recent statements & leaked emails.
Grant believes that these emails may have revealed an effort by government insiders to information about UFO's.

In this interview Grant talks about the possible effort for UFO disclosure and what Mr Trump's views on the matter may be.

Program notes here:http://www.openminds.tv/grant-cameron-ufo-disclosure-and-trump-november-14-2016/39060

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Huh CNN talking about Cosmic Consciousness, Mr Trump, UFO's & Non-Human Intelligence?!?!?!

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[norman]

Stefan Molyneux isn't as knowledgeable as he pretends to be. Also he doesn't have a complete dynamic 'solution' to anything. I'm waiting for someone to ask him how he'd fix anything he's so good at tearing up.

As far I can see, he'd advocate genocide if he was pushed.

How do we get from a world of destroyed families to a world where families can retake the space government has filled ? Nothing I've heard from Molyneux indicates to me he has the foggiest idea, other than to completely trash and bulldoze an entire generation. I'm wary of sharp talking absolutists. At least Trump doesn't make that sound, yet.


edit:

And while I'm having a go at public figures on the net, Alex Jones is probably about to experience a dip in his audience figures. He was all prayers and love when he was 'under the gun' before election day. Frequently actually praying to his lord Jesus etc. Since the election he's been a hate filled fascist. And those youngsters he rules over were far too gloating in the shocked response of the deceived believers in the MSM lies. Really quite disgusting, and I'm sure I can't be the only one who felt it.

[Cidersomerset]

Grant Cameron - UFO Disclosure & Donald Trump

Funny you posted that I'l have to listen to it tomorrow after work.But I am listening
to Bob & Ion show for sat/sun 13/11/16 the 1am segment and he is talking to a
listener and he says that there was a plan for a fake ET invasion on election night
where craft would be seen over 24 US cities or so , but it was foiled and is why
Hillary was crying all night and explains why the establishment thought there was
98% certainty she would win , and ignored the creeping surge for Trump .This
might have been posted as something was released on Wiki and Fetzer has been
talking about a few weeks back....

Aprox 23 mins in


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incredible 7D hologram - Funny Vine - Whale 7D image - Vines 2016

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[turiya]

Make way for the Bull in the China Shop....


Before the Election...


Roger Stone on The Donald Trump
Meetings w/ Henry Kissinger & James Baker
(Published November 15, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FObGtb4ckwU_______________________

After the Election...


Trump: The System is One Big Lobbyist
& Its Going to Get Phased Out
(Published November 15, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0weVeBOF1Y

Swamp Drains Trump (http://www.marketslant.com/articles/wall-st-elites-move-swamp-drains-your-wallet)

Until you commitment and involvement is total, you will continue to get the same parasite.

Your commitment must equal that of the parasite, and the parasite finds that their life depends upon their involvement in stealing and eating your life.

Their involvement is of their nature and is total, complete. Their success, it's quality and levels... involves not being felt or seen, as is possible.

Where is your competing and involved life and energies? Remember...total, just like their core level direct and living involvement and commitment.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Stefan Molyneux isn't as knowledgeable as he pretends to be.

If we have anybody here willing to stand up for communism or socialism I'd like to see a list of what they think the government should provide for the people, and then we'll compare that to what parents provide for their children. I think it will be an interesting comparison and an interesting look into the mentality of people on the far left.



FBI: Legit Hate Crimes More Prevalent in Blue States

African-Americans and whites continue to be the largest targets of hate crimes which are most common in traditional blue states, newly released Federal Bureau of Investigation data reveal.

The states with the most hate crime offenses in 2015 were California–with over 1,000 hate crimes–while New York, New Jersey, Washington State, and Massachusetts followed closely behind.

[...]

Liberal-leaning states have largely higher hate crime levels than traditional red states. These figures parallel other studies focusing on the rates of modern racial segregation with respect to school districts and housing. ProPublica recently reported that Illinois and New York lead the nation for rates of black students attending schools with 90%+ minority student bodies. With respect to housing, the left-leaning nonprofit named New York, Chicago, Philadelphia, Detroit, and Cleveland “the nation’s most segregated cities.”

Others with some of the highest hate offenses included Ohio, Arizona, Michigan, Minnesota and Tennessee.

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/11/15/fbi-legit-hate-crimes-prevalent-blue-states/

[turiya]

Goes over the possible upcoming administration picks...


Newt Gingrich on the Critics of
Trump's White House Staff
(Published on Nov 14, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTG1-7RZuw8

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Where's Hillary... Creeping Around Children
(Published on Nov 15, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXNHtqqoaE8

Also in this video Alex covers a Daily Mail article that Bill and Hillary got into a massive screaming match just a few days before the election, with Bill getting so mad that he threw his phone off the top of his penthouse in Arkansas. Apparently these kinds of tantrums were common in the last days of the election, and once again we hear that this is why creepy Podesta had to come out to speak to her crowd on election night.

[norman]

'Post-truth' named word of the year by Oxford Dictionaries.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/nov/15/post-truth-named-word-of-the-year-by-oxford-dictionaries


Defined by the dictionary as an adjective “relating to or denoting circumstances in which objective facts are less influential in shaping public opinion than appeals to emotion and personal belief”, editors said that use of the term “post-truth” had increased by around 2,000% in 2016 compared to last year. The spike in usage, it said, is “in the context of the EU referendum in the United Kingdom and the presidential election in the United States”.

[Hervé]

Members and staff of the "Nomadic Rioters Circus" not wanting to be recognized when skipping town:


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/785702097501118468/da6dvBq6_bigger.jpg Andy C. Ngo ‏@MrAndyNgo (https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo)

Media colleague @itsmikebivins (https://twitter.com/itsmikebivins) warned not to record violent anti-Trump protests. At least 1 media crew attacked last night #PortlandProtest (https://twitter.com/hashtag/PortlandProtest?src=hash)


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When telling the truth is rebranded as "snitching"... ô Orwell...

[turiya]

A May 2016 Beitbart News article...


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Donald Trump: I’m Not ‘Selling Out
to Wall Street’ by Bringing On
Goldman Sachs Alum as Finance Chairman (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/06/trump-im-not-selling-wall-street-bringing-goldman-sachs-alum-finance-chairman/)

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by John Hayward
6 May 2016
On Friday’s Breitbart News Daily, SiriusXM host Stephen K. Bannon asked Donald Trump about the appointment of his business associate Steven Mnuchin as campaign finance chairman.

The move has been criticized because of Mnuchin’s long tenure with Goldman Sachs–the financial giant seen as a Wall Street villain by the populist constituency that propelled Trump to victory in the GOP primary. In fact, during the Republican primary, Senator Ted Cruz was criticized because his wife Heidi worked for the company.

“Some people are saying, ‘He’s selling out to Wall Street already; he’s gonna have all kinds of favors he’s going to owe Wall Street,’” Bannon noted.

“Well, I needed somebody smart, and he’s very smart, as you know,” Trump said of Mnuchin. “He’s done some amazing deals. I actually did a deal with him in Hawaii; I built a hotel with him in Hawaii. He’s great. He’s a good guy. He’s a solid guy, as you know. And you know, the family is a wonderful family.”

Trump said he was not “selling out” anything in terms of policy by bringing Mnuchin on board his campaign team, insisting he would “keep it more or less the same.”

“He’s raising money for the party,” he said about Mnuchin’s role, adding:

And I’m gonna be putting up a lot of money. So this is money that’s going to the Republican National Committee. I think we could raise a billion dollars, but the Democrats are gonna have two billion dollars. And to raise a billion dollars for the party, you need somebody good.

“I think he’s going to do a great job–but, again, I’m going to be spending a tremendous amount of money, and I expect to,” Trump said.


Donald Trump on Steve Mnuchin
New Campaign Finance Chair (May 2 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UbWNdZaZoQ___________________________

So, now things get pretty interesting... will Trump be getting 'played-on', or will he be doing the 'playing-on?


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Carl Icahn Speaks To Donald Trump: "Mnuchin, Wilber Ross Considered For Treasury And Commerce" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-15/carl-icahn-speaks-donald-trump-mnuchin-wilber-ross-considered-treasury-and-commerce)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Nov 15, 2016 11:51 AM

Confirming yesterday's Bloomberg report that former Goldman partner and Soros employee (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-05/trump-picks-former-goldman-partner-and-soros-employee-finance-chairman), Steven Mnuchin is in the frontrunning for the top Treasury post, and adding that Wilbur Ross is now in contention for Commerce Secretary, moments ago Carl Icahn tweeted that "Steve Mnuchin and Wilbur Ross are being considered for Treasury and Commerce."

He adds that "Both would be great choices. Both are good friends of mine but, more importantly, they are two of the smartest people I know."

More at the link: SOUROS (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-15/carl-icahn-speaks-donald-trump-mnuchin-wilber-ross-considered-treasury-and-commerce)

[Cidersomerset]

A few articles from the web...........

How can President-elect Trump help change the world?

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Published on 15 Nov 2016

On 'Hannity,' Nigel Farage and Dr. Sebastian Gorka on how Trump
should tackle the refugee crisis, terror threats

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President Obama: Trump and I "could not be more different"

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Published on 16 Nov 2016
Speaking in Athens, Greece, President Obama made it clear he's a very different
type of leader than President-elect Donald Trump. CBS News' Margaret Brennan
has more on his comments and the purpose of the president's overseas trip.

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Democrats want Trump aide Steve Bannon fired

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Published on 16 Nov 2016
Democratic lawmakers are calling on President-elect Donald Trump to fire Stephen
Bannon as chief strategist because of inflammatory comments he's made about
women and minorities. CBS News' Juliana Goldman reports.

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Trump sends 3 a.m. tweets again

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Published on 16 Nov 2016
Donald Trump continues to tweet as President-elect, questioning the line
between his personal life and new government position.

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Mike Rogers parts ways with Donald Trump transition team

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Published on 15 Nov 2016
Former Congressman Mike Rogers said he parted ways with Donald Trump's
transition team, removing an establishment national security voice from the
planning process of the next president's cabinet.


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Mike Pence shakes up the Trump transition list ( Clearing the lobbyist's)

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Published on 16 Nov 2016
CBS News' Major Garrett explains why Vice President-elect Mike Pence's decision to
remove lobbyists from the transition team for the Trump administration is slowing
down the process.

[Cidersomerset]

CIA NN Do the UFO conspiracy to the alt news community doing the usual
showing sound bite clips , instead of a balanced report....


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Published on 16 Nov 2016
Who and what is the alt-right movement? CNN's Tom Foreman reports.


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AH is a democrat but is totally anti Clinton , I post most of his vids on the
Hillary thread but in this one he does mention the speculation that Hillary
lost the plot on election night. It was a amusing to me as it ties into what
Bob Nevritt said Ion told him.


CLINTON RAGE: Hillary Clinton Has Major Temper Tantrum On Election Night After Losing to Trump

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Published on 15 Nov 2016
My name is H. A. Goodman and I’m an author, columnist, and journalist www.hagoodman.com
PLEASE SHARE: President Trump Should Pardon Julian Assange

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#NotMyPresident? #DrainTheSwamp? The REAL Revolution Is Already Here

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Published on 16 Nov 2016


SHOW NOTES: https://www.corbettreport.com/?p=20458

So you say you want a revolution? Well don't worry, it's already happening and it
has nothing whatsoever to do with the political game that the ruling oligarchs
entice you to play once every four years. As the radical decentralization transforms
the economy and finance and manufacturing and the media itself, the only question
is whether or not you're taking part in it. Yes, the revolution is happening, and no,
it will not be televised.

[Cidersomerset]

This is a good conversation/debate...............


Trump's Victory Averted World War III | Alex Jones and Stefan Molyneux

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Published on 15 Nov 2016
MP3: http://www.fdrpodcasts.com/#/3499/tru...

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Hillary Became "Physically Violent" After She Had Lost Election, Had To Be Restrained

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Published on 16 Nov 2016
SUBSCRIBE to see more similar videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCw5p...

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Professor makes case for the Electoral College

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Published on 16 Nov 2016
Eric Shawn reports on the debate over the Founding Fathers' creation

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Napolitano: Why Hillary lost

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Published on 16 Nov 2016
Judge Napolitano's Chambers: Judge Andrew Napolitano weighs in on what really
lost the election for Hillary Clinton

[Cidersomerset]

This is the next vid on the U'tube link........Long time acquaintance and friend of
the President elect....


Roger Stone Updates Stefan Molyneux On Donald Trump

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Published on 14 Nov 2016
It's been a long road from Trump Tower to the White House and President-Elect Donald J.
Trump is now working to lay the groundwork for the upcoming Trump administration.
Roger Stone joins Stefan Molyneux to discuss the previous times Donald Trump has
contemplated running for office, mainstream media collusion, Hillary Clinton's absolute
failure as a political candidate, the state of the Trump transition team, possible roles
for Steve Bannon and Reince Priebus, and the challenges which must be faces before
Trump is sworn in as President of the United States.

Roger Stone is a well-known political operative and pundit. A veteran of nine national
presidential campaigns and has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican
presidents. He is author of the New York Times bestseller “The Man Who Killed Kennedy:
The Case Against LBJ,” as well as “The Clintons' War on Women” and “Jeb! and the Bush
Crime Family: The Inside Story of an American Dynasty.”

Jeb! and the Bush Crime Family: The Inside Story of an American Dynasty: http://www.fdrurl.com/bush-crime-family

The Clintons' War on Women: http://www.fdrurl.com/clintons-war-on...

The Man Who Killed Kennedy: The Case Against LBJ: http://www.fdrurl.com/who-killed-kennedy

For more information from Roger Stone, go to: http://www.rogerstone.com and http://www.stonezone.com

Freedomain Radio is 100% funded by viewers like you. Please support the show by
signing up for a monthly subscription or making a one time donation at:
http://www.freedomainradio.com/donate

Get more from Stefan Molyneux and Freedomain Radio including books, podcasts and o
ther info at: http://www.freedomainradio.com

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State Department has been anti RT for years and John Kirby shows his bias...


'Not going to put RT on same level with rest of you’: John Kirby loses temper during briefing

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Published on 16 Nov 2016
A State Department briefing gets heated after RT’s Gayane Chichakyan asks
spokesman John Kirby a question about Syria.

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NYC Mayor Brings List of Concerns to Trump Meeting

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Published on 16 Nov 2016
Mayor Bill de Blasio said he and Trump found at least on area of agreement.

[turiya]

Jon Rappoport Interview w/ Jeff Rense...


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kdfvyFh53Ug/V7KPb9O-fLI/AAAAAAAAARg/9cVXocN79o0QF-vXKSWmbqyIQ7xEqa1dQCLcB/s1600/rense.gif (http://rense.com/)

(11/15/2016)
Hour 3 - Jon Rappoport -
The State Of The Nation

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Jon Rappoport Website (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/)

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News
Scenes Of Panic In India As Gold Price
Skyrockets After Currency Ban (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-16/stunning-scenes-panic-gold-price-skyrockets-india-after-currency-ban)

Chaos in the Wake of the Ban


Day 1 of the banks opening
(Published on Nov 16, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM1tmm-X6pQ_______________________________________

Uncertainty has gripped the populace
(Published on Nov 16, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BaPyOgdphU_______________________________________

An endless queue to convert Rs 4,000 (USD 60)
(Published on Nov 16, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLsQVLmyoso

[A Voice from the Mountains]

It's been a slow day for liberal propagandists.

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I'm glad to see CNN broke out their panel of liberal "experts" on this one. I was starting to get worried.

This is why CNN reporters get paid the big bucks.

[turiya]

Recent MSM Twiiter Tweets


Same Stein Huffington Post
http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/WIKILEAKS_TWE/OTHER_TWEETS/SAM_STEIN_TWEET_TRANSITION_TEAM_CRITICISM.png (https://twitter.com/samsteinhp/status/798989848803758080)

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/WIKILEAKS_TWE/OTHER_TWEETS/TRUMP_ON_TRANSITION_TEAM_REBUTTAL_ORGANIZED_WHO_R_the_FINALISTS.png (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/798721142525665280)

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|Sally Rebecca Kohn is an American lawyer, liberal CNN political commentator,
|community organizer, and founder and chief executive officer of the Movement
|Vision Lab, a grassroots think tank.

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SALLY KOHN - CNN COMMENTATOR - PROTESTING @ TRUMP TOWER
http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/WIKILEAKS_TWE/OTHER_TWEETS/SALLY_KOHN_CNN_COMMENTATOR_PROTESTING_AT_TRUMP_TOWER.png (https://twitter.com/sallykohn/status/796547292476178434?lang=en&lang=en)

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[TargeT]

Oh man, the production value on this is great...

Never seen a president-elect treated like this, that's for sure.

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[turiya]

Oh man, Target, that was a fantastic find... lol!

[Flash]

This is sooo funny, albeit against Trump, but real sense of latin humour, with the ending, the walking wig...

[Aurelius]

more from the hidden hands ...

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[norman]

more from the hidden hands ...

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The more I listen to this guy the more I think the Kissinger crowd are just cutting the Clintons out of the loop because they are compromised and a huge liability. After that, it's business as usual.


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[MorningFox]

Thought this is a good a place as any to put this wonderful image...

http://i.imgur.com/rsfOrIe.jpg

[Aurelius]

Oh man, the production value on this is great...

Never seen a president-elect treated like this, that's for sure.


... question is, WHO paid for the production?

[turiya]

Oh man, the production value on this is great...

Never seen a president-elect treated like this, that's for sure.


... question is, WHO paid for the production?
The team behind M.A.M.O.N (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q__bSi5rBlw) is Uruguayan production house Aparato (http://www.aparato.tv/). The film, directed by Ale Damiani (http://www.aparato.tv/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/alejandro-damiani.jpg), is part of the company’s Wecanfixit project (http://wecanfxit.com/). Its stated mission is “to change the world using our geeky weapons: cinematography, visual effects and CGI. Our motto: "Making the world a better place, one pixel at a time.”




We are aparato
and we want to
change the world

V F X • Character Animation • Films • Creative Studio

Aparato was founded in 2008, rapidly transforming into Uruguayans reference in VFX, Character Animation and Motion Design. The first two years worked under Fede Alvarez creative direction, since 2010 Ale Damiani took over the creative direction.


http://www.aparato.tv/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/alejandro-damiani.jpg

Our distinctive visual style has come about through a shared passion for live action, motion graphics, visual effects and 2d/3d animation. As mixed media specialists skilled in animation, design, illustration, 3D, 2D and live action production, our directors takes a unique approach to each and every project. Aparato has obtained several international awards on realistic VFX. In Montevideo studio we have a permanent team of producers and creatives specializing in live action, motion graphics, 2d/3d animation, stop motion and visual effects. We also have a regular network of specialist freelancers that are pulled in depending on the nature of a project. Over the years, Aparato has worked in a permanent basis with production houses and agencies in Mexico, Colombia, Peru, Ecuador, Chile, Paraguay, United States, England, Spain and China with brands including Coca-Cola, Amex, Movistar, Pepsi, AMPM and Nestle.

The other name listed on the Produccion Page of the video is Juan Pedro Lopez (http://lpamadison.org/aboutlpa/lpa-founding-committee/juan-jose-lopez/) who is Director of the Bureau of Program Management & Special Populations • Department of Workforce Development (State of Wisconsin).


http://lpamadison.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/lopez.jpg

The man's bio is as follows:

Juan Jose is the Director of the Bureau of Program Management & Special Populations in the Division ofEmployment & Training (DET) of the Department of Workforce Development (DWD). Juan José has been Executive Director of Briarpatch and the Boys & Girls Clubs of Dane County, worked as an aide to Wisconsin Governor Anthony S. Earl and worked as a Policy & Planning Analyst for the Office of the Attorney General Peggy A. Lautenschlager.

Juan José has held many positions with a variety of community based organizations. More notably, he currently serves as the Chairperson of the Board of Directors of United Migrant Opportunity Services (UMOS), the largest Latino/Hispanic run organization in Wisconsin, is a member of the Rotary Club of Madison and a board member of their Rotary Foundation He was elected and served 12 years as a member of the Board of Education of the Madison Metropolitan School District (1994-2006). Juan currently serves as a mentor for youth by helping them with their career and professional development.

Juan José López is originally from San Antonio, Texas and received a Bachelor’s of Arts Degree in Social Work from the University of Wisconsin-Madison.

SOURCE (http://lpamadison.org/aboutlpa/lpa-founding-committee/juan-jose-lopez/)


The crowd-funding (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowdfunding) path for short filmmakers is finally gaining traction, and established animation filmmakers have begun experimenting with the concept. Throughout the years, various filmmakers have toyed with the idea of funding their films in this fashion, mostly by soliciting Paypal donations, but the gamechanger has been new websites that are dedicated solely to facilitating crowd-funded projects. The two most prominent sites being used by animators right now are IndieGoGo (https://www.indiegogo.com/) and Kickstarter (https://www.kickstarter.com/). There is a difference between the sites: IndieGoGo’s fundraising period continues indefinitely, whereas Kickstarter has a 90-day fundraising period and if the artist doesn’t meet their monetary goal, all the money is returned to the donors.

SOURCE (http://www.cartoonbrew.com/internet-blogs/crowd-funding-animated-shorts-20645.html)


That's all I got for this search...

[A Voice from the Mountains]

A reminder to everyone that the Chinese government, which literally tears unborn babies from their mothers' wombs, harvests dissidents' organs for elitist hospitals and has mobile execution labs, is so very compassionately concerned about the environment:


Beijing to Donald Trump: Climate change is not a Chinese hoax



Beijing has told Donald Trump that climate change is not a hoax that was created by China, reminding the President-elect that it was his Republican predecessors who first put the issue on the table.

Mr Trump’s views on global warming have raised concerns among environmentalists, given that he is seen as a climate change denier.

In 2012, he tweeted: “The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/17/beijing-to-trump-climate-change-is-not-a-chinese-hoax/


This is old news. One of Jesse Ventura's episodes of Conspiracy Theory addressed this same topic. The UN and China push man-made global warming nonsense because they want to heavily tax industry in countries like the United States to force it out of our countries into China and 3rd world nations. Remember that Wikileaks also exposed the emails of scientists who were fabricating climate change data. They pollute and destroy the environment in China like no other.

[turiya]

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Interesting, norman... this George Webb video... your posting of his video fits right in with this IWB article that goes down this CLINTON DEADPOOL rabbithole possibly involving the missing Clinton Foundation CEO - Eric Braverman.


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Missing CEO Of CLINTON FOUNDATION ERIC BRAVERMAN
Appears To Be In FBI Custody. Missing Arms Dealer MARK TURI
Who Was The BENGHAZI FALLGUY - Possibly Dead. (http://investmentwatchblog.com/missing-ceo-of-clinton-foundation-eric-braverman-appears-to-be-in-fbi-custody-missing-arms-dealer-mark-turi-who-was-the-benghazi-fallguy-possibly-dead/)
by IWB ·
Published November 10, 2016 · Updated November 14, 2016
by Pamela Williams

I have been keeping up with missing CEO Eric Braverman of the Clinton Foundation. It was first reported that he had taken refuge at the Russian Embassy in New York seeking asylum. He had been exposed in one of the WIKILEAKS Podesta emails as a mole within the Clinton Foundation. Chelsea Clinton had hired Braverman to clean house, but the old crew at the Foundation resented him being there. Bill Clinton’s handler Doug Band…such a creep…wanted him out. He later resigned and was teaching at Yale, or he was supposed to do that. As far as I can see he had a meeting on October 30, 2016, but he did not attend the meeting. His last tweet was on October 12, 2016 (https://twitter.com/eric_braverman/with_replies).

Braverman wed Neil Brown, who also became involved with the Benghazi arms deal…bear with me here, as this is a complicated story. It is not clear to me if Braverman knew of this before he married Brown. There are so many ins and outs in the Benghazi story.





Is Eric Braverman Terrified For His Life? (http://rabidrepublicanblog.com/is-eric-braverman-terrified-for-his-life/)


http://rabidrepublicanblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Neil-Brown-and-Eric-Braverman-married.jpg

But one thing that is very clear is Braverman did not know what he was stepping in to when he was hired by Chelsea Clinton to clean house at the Foundation.

Doug Band, Bill Clinton’s right had man, did not want Braverman’s intrusion into the criminal empire he had helped to build.

Eric Braverman, this report notes, is a current lecturer in the practice of government at Yale University (http://som.yale.edu/eric-braverman) who previously served as a partner at the US-based global consulting firm McKinsey & Company (http://www.mckinsey.com/)—and who, in 2013, became the CEO of the Clinton Foundation until his abrupt, and unexplained, leaving (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/03/clinton-foundation-eric-braverman-115598) this known money laundering criminal organization (http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/08/12/judge-jeanine-goes-clinton-foundation-money-laundering-op-not-charity) this past December (2015) just prior to Hillary Clinton announcing her candidacy for president.

Eric Braverman was made the CEO of the Clinton Foundation in 2013, this report explains, after Hillary Clinton’s daughter, Chelsea, “declared war” on this criminal enterprise (http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/11/bombshell-chelsea-privately-declared-war-on-clinton-foundation-in-2011/) after stunning details emerged showing her father, former President Bill Clinton, had raised over $1 billion though the foundation to rebuild 100 villages in India, but only spent $53 million with him and his wife, Hillary Clinton, pocketing the rest (http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/02/exposed-the-corrupt-clinton-foundation-youve-never-heard-of/).

Braverman eventually went to NBC News and spoke with someone there about what he had found at the Foundation, telling them “to follow the money”. When WIKILEAKS dropped the Podesta emails, the world could see, as Braverman saw, Podesta knew Braverman was the mole inside the Foundation, or at least he was before resigning. At that point, Braverman disappeared, and the talk was he was seeking asylum at the Russian Embassy in New York. However, there was doubt in some circles this was true.

As I was following the story very closely, eventually I found the following which made more sense to me:



Kremlin In Turmoil After Clinton Foundation CEO
Requests “Urgent And Immediate” Asylum (http://westernsentinel.com/kremlin-turmoil-clinton-foundation-ceo-requests-urgent-immediate-asylum/)

Last week, we reported the disappearance of former CEO of the Clinton Foundation Eric Braverman. Intel provided suggested that he fled the country fearing for his life, seeking asylum in Russia.

That was nine days ago, and there has still been no word from (or sightings of) Eric Braverman.

However, a new source within the intelligence community suggests that was misinformation intentionally spread through social media by several sources, and in fact, he is being held in protective custody by the FBI in exchange for his testimony against Hillary Clinton.

In an email exchange, Neera Tanden the president of CAP, warned John Podesta to “keep tabs on Doug Band who she thought was the insider who told NBC to “follow the money and find the real HRC scandal”.

John Podesta quickly wrote back to identify the real source as former Clinton Foundation CEO Eric Braverman which shocks Tanden who replies, “Holy Moses.”

This was in Wikileaks Email 25357 (https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/25357#searchresult%20):

Of course, when Braverman heard of the above leak, he must have realized he had to do something, or he would end up in the CLINTON DEADPOOL. For all we know this could be true now.

There is a man on YouTube who has been following the Eric Braverman story, along with the story of a missing arms dealer named Marc Turi. If you remember, Turi was set up as the fall guy for the Benghazi arms deal by Obama and Clinton. The DOJ was to prosecute Turi, but he went to Fox News and told his story. Eventually the DOJ dropped the case. However, Turi was a very bold man, as he threatened to drop a bombshell on Clinton. Now he has disappeared, too. It is believed he could be a part of the CLINTON DEADPOOL.



New Sources Suggest Eric Braverman is in FBI Protective Custody (http://pmnightlynews.com/index.php/2016/11/04/new-sources-eric-braverman/)


The Obama administration is moving to dismiss charges against an arms dealer it had accused of selling weapons that were destined for Libyan rebels.

Lawyers for the Justice Department on Monday filed a motion (http://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000157-90b1-d51f-adf7-bef1bbc80002) in federal court in Phoenix to drop the case against the arms dealer, an American named Marc Turi, whose lawyers also signed the motion.

The deal averts a trial that threatened to cast additional scrutiny on Hillary Clinton’s private emails as Secretary of State, and to expose reported Central Intelligence Agency attempts to arm rebels fighting Libyan leader Moammar Qadhafi.

Government lawyers were facing a Wednesday deadline to produce documents to Turi’s legal team, and the trial was officially set to begin on Election Day, although it likely would have been delayed by protracted disputes about classified information in the case.

A Turi associate asserted that the government dropped the case because the proceedings could have embarrassed Clinton and President Barack Obama by calling attention to the reported role of their administration in supplying weapons (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/06/world/africa/weapons-sent-to-libyan-rebels-with-us-approval-fell-into-islamist-hands.html?_r=1) that fell into the hands of Islamic extremist militants.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcxEGcbb6e4

The above video was published on November 9, 2016 by George Webb. Webb is very knowledgeable on Benghazi and the whole Clinton Foundation. He has made a series of videos on missing Eric Braverman, Marc Turi, Benghazi, and the Clinton Foundation. These videos are a wellspring of information, and I hope everyone who reads this report will watch the video, too.

The below site is a wellspring of information on Benghazi, Marc Turi, and Hillary Clinton. I do not see how Clinton is going to get away from what she has done. However, the latest is that Obama is going to pardon her. Yet, I feel eventually Benghazi will catch up to her. I just pray that Eric Braverman and Marc Turi have not ended up in the CLINTON DEADPOOL. I hope after reading this report, some attention will be called to Braverman and Turi.

Most of our readers know that we were in Libya for 100 days during the illegal Clinton/NATO war against that country and that we were captured by Clinton’s Al Qaeda mercenaries, sentenced to death only to escape by 3 miracles. Recently there has been a lot of media covering Marc Turi, the man Hillary Clinton hired to figure a way to sneak weapons into Libya to arm her Al Qaeda mercenaries against the embargo by the UN. The plan was to run the arms through Qatar to wash the proof of where they had come from, well just so happens the Libyan’s Coast Guard captured some of the gun runners and they confessed everything. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/11/arms-dealer-says-administrati…

As proven by Marc Turi’s most recent interview with Fox News, the Clinton plan was to run guns through Qatar – thus the proof is in the video – these are Clinton’s illegal arms being supplied to radical Islamic terrorists, ending up in the hands of Al Qaeda, ISIS, Ansar Al Sharia, LIFG and other radical groups.

This act alone makes Hillary Clinton a war criminal and a traitor to the USA.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQmbxXH2xvc

SOURCE (http://investmentwatchblog.com/missing-ceo-of-clinton-foundation-eric-braverman-appears-to-be-in-fbi-custody-missing-arms-dealer-mark-turi-who-was-the-benghazi-fallguy-possibly-dead/)

[turiya]

One more of George Webb youtubes just published... got this more sinister feeling growing in my gut... more & more minions are trying to find a rabbithole of their own to crawl into...


Day 25 -Still No Braverman
(Published on Nov 17, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48HL0yR3l40

[Cidersomerset]

I have watched the state department spokespersons over the past few years at best
they patronise RT journalists , who are asking valid questions and are often hostile towards
them. It came to a head with John Kirby who lost the plot as posted in vid above in # 1122.

Its an embarrassing/hostile exchange by Kirby on several levels and shows the
frustration over the Trump victory and possible future US/Russian co operation
in Syria. Even at a basic level the RT journalist is a US based correspondent,
so his unprofessional childish attack on her and RT show the cracks in the Obama
administration imo....


'I'm sorry about that': State Department official emailed RT's reporter a detailed statement

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Published on 16 Nov 2016
During US State Department briefing RT's reporter Gayane Chichakyan asked spokesman
John Kirby for specific information concerning allegations that Russia is targeting hospitals
in Syria. The response was a reiteration of those allegations and a refusal to treat RT in
the same way as other media outlets.

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If she is not guilty of anything why is , possible intel asset implicated in the
assassination of Martin Luther King , Rev Jesse Jackson asking for a 'preemptive'
pardon for her by President Obama.


REV. JESSE JACKSON TELLS OBAMA TO PARDON CLINTON: Hillary Clinton Speaks After Losing to Trump

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Published on 17 Nov 2016
My name is H. A. Goodman and I’m an author, columnist, and journalist www.hagoodman.com
PLEASE SHARE: President Trump Should Pardon Julian Assange
http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/14/pre...

Rev. Jesse Jackson asks President Obama to pardon Hillary Clinton

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Published on 17 Nov 2016

Rev. Jesse Jackson asks President Obama to pardon Hillary Clinton during his
speech at the University of Michigan.

[norman]

I've just had a Eureka moment.

IF I go with the idea that Trump is part of a huge game plan, as I have done from time to time over the last few weeks, I see something very significant about the way Trump made calling out the fake MSM his central plank of his run for the Whitehouse.

My Eurika moment is this:

The MSM has to be tackled head on and busted. It has to be got out of the way of the next stage of the huge plan. That is, DATA DUMPS !. A whole avalanche of real information about all sorts of things to do with the secret space program, human history, Secret technology and on and on.

IF there are people ready to go ahead with releasing a huge load of information to the public, they are holding off because of the clout of the Cabal controlled media and it's ability to dismiss it all as wild whako stuff and turn people off looking at it.

Once the MSM has either been wiped out or realigned with truth, they can go ahead and start the data dumping to the public. Trump's head-on collision with the MSM has got "operation data dump" written all over it. If he keeps up the pressure on them and draws their fire, it's very probable that there will be a defining paradigm shift in the media's relationship with the public. That's a vital precursor to what is waiting to happen next, outing the truth.

Trump himself is probably as curious as the rest of us are. Judging by some of is wonky notions about things like ISIS, he's got a lot to learn.

[TargeT]

I've just had a Eureka moment.

IF I go with the idea that Trump is part of a huge game plan, as I have done from time to time over the last few weeks, I see something very significant about the way Trump made calling out the fake MSM his central plank of his run for the Whitehouse.

My Eurika moment is this:

The MSM has to be tackled head on and busted. It has to be got out of the way of the next stage of the huge plan. That is, DATA DUMPS !. A whole avalanche of real information about all sorts of things


Or, the next stage is the Ministry of Truth; (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four) or something similar... I think trump is a part of a huge game plan, but not one to our benefit.

[norman]

I've just had a Eureka moment.

IF I go with the idea that Trump is part of a huge game plan, as I have done from time to time over the last few weeks, I see something very significant about the way Trump made calling out the fake MSM his central plank of his run for the Whitehouse.

My Eurika moment is this:

The MSM has to be tackled head on and busted. It has to be got out of the way of the next stage of the huge plan. That is, DATA DUMPS !. A whole avalanche of real information about all sorts of things


Or, the next stage is the Ministry of Truth; (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four) or something similar... I think trump is a part of a huge game plan, but not one to our benefit.

I swing from positive to negative and back several times a day over this Trump phenomenon. I go from raw fear to joy like I'm a reed in a saxophone mouth piece.

[Hervé]

OK, if I get this straight, with all these "pardon" rumors going on... in order for Obama to pardon Hillary, she would have to be found guilty, jailed and on skid-row before Obama leaves office... so that, it would be better to wait till Obama is gone, for good, before dropping the gavel, right?

[Cidersomerset]

The MSM has to be tackled head on and busted. It has to be got out of the way of the next stage of the huge plan. That is, DATA DUMPS !. A whole avalanche of real information about all sorts of things to do with the secret space program, human history, Secret technology and on and on.

I know what you mean if we put our conspiracy hats back on a lot of dots can be connected
from the UFOs Whistleblower William Tompkins and many other related topics which take
us back to the Annunaki and other groups and beyond to multiple agendas. This election
will just be another page in TPTB play book. Everything is on different levels of perception,
for the most part this thread is about what we see on the TV/web/mainstream and alternate
media and our own observations. But we all know/suspect there is much more going on behind
whether by other worldly influences or just greedy selfish human levels which tie in many
threads on the various forums.....



Or, the next stage is the Ministry of Truth; or something similar...
I think trump is a part of a huge game plan, but not one to our benefit.

We are keeping positive on the Trump transition on this thread for the
most part as we knew what Clinton represented. The Donald hopefully
will be a breath of fresh air. But if the world is controlled and compromised
he may not be able and he has a lot of family members to think of....



so that, it would be better to wait till Obama is gone, for good, before
dropping the gavel, right?

You would of thought so but it gets complicated , and is why they are suggesting
a pardon for future crimes or however they put. Different commentators and
legal experts say different things and even if she is pardoned some say that
does not completely absolve her....

[norman]

OK, if I get this straight, with all these "pardon" rumors going on... in order for Obama to pardon Hillary, she would have to be found guilty, jailed and on skid-row before Obama leaves office... so that, it would be better to wait till Obama is gone, for good, before dropping the gavel, right?

Apparently, she can be pardoned before conviction, but, and it's a big but, in the public perception it would be less likely to stick as a pardon if the real dirst gets aired afterwards than if she went through the whole mill and then received a pardon.

Any trick that keeps her out of a courtroom will be the one used, I think, otherwise she's as dead a Lee Harvey Oswald was at his trial.

[sheme]

What will they lock up- A soulless manikin? What I fear is it is all part of some "plan"-sadly. I just hope Trump doesn't know it and fools them all.

[turiya]

When Trump was asked about his 'Tweeting', his reply was (paraphrasing here) that it was the best way to counter the lying media!

So, it seems to me that the way Twitter is going... its actually 'trumping' (pun intended) the MSM... no need to go there, imo, to find good information... and to get reaction by public...


A No-Go for Gingrich
http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/TRUMP_TWEETS/ZEROHEDGE_17_NOV2016_NO_GINGRICH.png (https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/799369572163977216)

[Sueanne47]

I worry that people are giving themselves false hope, that good is going to come out of a corrupt, devil worshipping, zionist government. NOTHING can touch them, they are above the law. No one yet has been convicted over 9/11, Iraq war, Benghazi, emails, Ukraine etc. They can over rule the voting public in a referendum. I'm not bothered about Donald Trump wether he is with the establishment or not....what I worry about is US the people as a whole, being on the receiving end of their new world order plan.

[Cidersomerset]

Infamous 60 Minutes Piece on Soros Emerges Online - Here are the highlights

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Published on 17 Nov 2016

SHOW NOTES: https://www.corbettreport.com/?p=20466

You'll no doubt remember the quotes from that 1998 60 Minutes piece on
Soros from Episode 113 of The Corbett Report podcast. Well guess what?
That clip actually emerged online this week. Let me walk you through a
few of the highlights.

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This was a important moment imo....

State Dept: RT not at the ‘same level’ as other news outlets

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Published on 17 Nov 2016

During a State Department briefing, RT correspondent Gayane Chichakyan asked
spokesman John Kirby for specific information concerning US accusations that
Russia is targeting hospitals in Syria. The response was a reiteration of those
allegations and a refusal to treat RT in the same way as other media outlets. To
discuss, former Senate foreign policy adviser Jim Jatras tells ‘News with Ed’
that “the State Department is not interested in the accuracy of the charges or
showing evidence.”

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Busy at Trump Towers.....

Trump reaches out to Japan's Abe, Romney in sign of healing

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Published on 17 Nov 2016

The president-elect is playing host to former detractors as he moderates his often
aggressive tone; Doug McKelway reports for 'Special Report'

[turiya]

Joel Skousen:
TRUMP VICTORY SHOCKS THE WORLD


The election of Donald Trump to become president of the United States is perhaps the biggest political upset in history—not because other races haven’t been close, but because the powerful establishment pulled out all the stops, including outright computer vote fraud, to defeat Trump and he still won. After living through one political defeat after another for the last fifty years of adulthood, it was hard to believe my eyes as it unfolded. I witnessed leftist TV journalists across the mainstream media go from upbeat, animated discussions about the surprising early election returns showing a Trump lead to outright shock and disbelief as Trump continued to win in huge swing states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Ohio and Iowa. Florida went for Trump and he was even ahead in Michigan. All these were states that were going to turn the tide for Clinton, but it never happened. This week I’ll explain how Trump defied the pollsters, the pundits, and the media to send Hillary packing for good. To receive a one-time free sample copy of the brief, email us at editor at worldaffairsbrief.com




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(11/16/2016)
Hour 3 - Joel Skousen -
World Affairs Update

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Joel Skousen Website (http://www.joelskousen.com/)

Note: Trump Wanting Security Clearance for His Children:
A false News Story: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/798850338384023552

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Is Pence fulfilling Trump's promise to 'drain the swamp'?
(Published on Nov 16, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7LXk6s8MYE_______________________________________

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Trump Transition
Pence removing lobbyists
from Trump transition team (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/16/pence-removing-lobbyists-from-trump-transition-team.html)

Published November 16, 2016
Lobbyists are being purged from official roles in President-elect Donald Trump's transition team, sources told Fox News late Tuesday.

The move to get rid of lobbyists in key roles was one of the first decisions made by Vice President-elect Mike Pence in his role overseeing the construction of a Trump administration.

One source said the decision to remove the lobbyists "makes good on [Trump's] vision of how he wants his government constructed."

Tuesday evening, Pence formally signed a memorandum of understanding putting him in charge of the transition team. A similar document had been signed by New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who spent months running transition operations before his demotion last week.

The group organized by Christie had featured a litany of lobbyists, former bureaucrats, academics and corporate lawyers. That caused consternation from Trump, who won cheers on the campaign trail for his repeated promises to "drain the swamp" in Washington.

Among those who departed Trump's transition team Tuesday was former Rep. Mike Rogers, a Christie recruit and a respected Republican voice on national security issues. The Wall Street Journal reported that Frank Gaffney, a former defense official in the Reagan administration, had been brought in to assist on national security issues, along with Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., and former Rep. Pete Hoekstra.

Former GOP national security official Eliot Cohen blasted Trump's team on Twitter, calling them "angry, arrogant." Cohen opposed Trump during the campaign, but in recent days, he said those who feel duty-bound to work in a Trump administration should do so. But he said Tuesday that after an exchange with Trump's team, he had "changed my recommendation."

MORE: SOURCE (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/16/pence-removing-lobbyists-from-trump-transition-team.html)


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Eliot A. Cohen just flushed down the toilet!

Glenn Greenwald of Salon.com describing Cohen "as extremist, neoconservative and warmonger as it gets"

Afterwords, an upset & riled Eliot A Cohen, a former Bush / Cheney Neo-Con, posted the following Tweet on Twitter:


http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/WIKILEAKS_TWE/OTHER_TWEETS/ELIOT_A_COHEN_TRANSITION_TEAM_NEO_CON_DOWN_THE_DRA IN.png (https://twitter.com/EliotACohen/status/798512852931788800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

[turiya]

Color Crayons for the cry-babies at UMich... time to grow-up! Its part of life... Have a listen to Mick Jagger: "you can't always get what you want..."


Sean Hannity & Kellyanne Conway
Absolutely Tear Into 'Coddled,
Crybaby Liberals, Snowflakes'
(Published on Nov 17, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w939nWadqMw

[Cidersomerset]

This is a interesting conversation , I just watched and is worth
a listen for a balance view from the democratic side rather than
the hysteria we are hearing in most of the mainstream. They
discus some of the pitfalls Trump could fall into if he does not
follow his gut initial populist agendas and gets pulled back into
the corruption surrounding US politics....


Democrats regroup; Name Bernie Sanders to leadership role

dDz1uL_ueko

Published on 17 Nov 2016
The Democratic Party hopes to re-energize its populist wing by naming Bernie Sanders
and Elizabeth Warren to top roles. Is this the key to blocking Donald Trump's policies
and winning in 2020? Larry takes a look with The Young Turks' Cenk Uygur.


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After all the hysteria over Russian hackers James Clapper says they do not
know who hacked Podesta....

WIKILEAKS BREAKING NEWS: U.S. Intel Agency Admits Not Knowing How
WikiLeaks Obtained Clinton Emails

_isObCLo1SI

Published on 17 Nov 2016

My name is H. A. Goodman and I’m an author, columnist, and journalist www.hagoodman.com
PLEASE SHARE: President Trump Should Pardon Julian Assange

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BREAKING NEWS JAPAN: Japanese PM Shinzo Abe Has Great Confidence In
President Elect Trump

xnLUr51liDs

Published on 17 Nov 2016

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CIA NN still 'stirring'.........The question is valid but its the tone as if it has never
happened before in US politics....

XP-SfmeUxp8

Published on 17 Nov 2016
In an interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper, Kellyanne Conway says Donald Trump
and Mitt Romney could work together despite their past differences.

[turiya]

Been browsing some of the MSM's journalist Twitter accounts... Found some material to make the following video...


CNN Sucks!
(Published November 18, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-tknWq49R8_______________________

Will Trump Break The Media?
(Published on Nov 16, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTwcwzqdPLk

[A Voice from the Mountains]

From what I've been seeing over the past few months I've got the distinct impression that Ivanka Trump is being groomed for future president. Maybe the real first woman president of US.

I notice she was sitting in on the meeting between Trump and Shinzo Abe lately, which enraged the MSM more than Trump ditching them for a steak dinner.

[turiya]

I think the Larry King interview tells more about what kind of mentality Cenk Uygur has than anything else - quite negative - typical brainwashed garbage about how the mediocre minds see Donald Trump.

H.A Goodman, on the otherhand, has a better clue... except for the wrong notion that Trump adopted issues from Bernie Sanders - no not true. Better to say they had similarities on some issues. Other issues - not so much. For example - and, this one really had me rolling on the ground - Bernie believes that global warming had created ISIS... Oh brother...


From what I've been seeing over the past few months I've got the distinct impression that Ivanka Trump is being groomed for future president. Maybe the real first woman president of US.

I notice she was sitting in on the meeting between Trump and Shinzo Abe lately, which enraged the MSM more than Trump ditching them for a steak dinner.

Interesting...

[Cidersomerset]

From what I've been seeing over the past few months I've got the distinct impression that
Ivanka Trump is being groomed for future president. Maybe the real first woman president of US.

I have heard that being speculated on , but I cannot remember where...LOL

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Another interesting discussion , Russia US relations will probably be one
of the first geo - political problems Donald Trump will face.....


CrossTalk: Donald and Vladimir

wNDL3uEzNcc

Published on 18 Nov 2016

President-elect Donald Trump says he wants to improve relations with Russia.
The Russian President Vladimir Putin tells us he agrees. What does it mean to
have better relations and will the American foreign policy establishment allow
this to happen?

CrossTalking with Daniel McAdams and Andrew Langer.

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Ron Paul ' Can Trump hold off the 'Deep State' ?

The Best Decision Donald Trump Has Taken As President

EoOvmy50090

Published on 18 Nov 2016
In this video Luke Rudkowski talks about Presidents Elect Donald Trump's most
important cabinet pick for national security advisor and its global implications.
While the E.U NATO and U.K panic with the new U.S president many people are
speculating if Trump will be able to Make America Great Again. Don't forget to vote
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Team Trump Announces Five Year Lobbying Ban for Administration Officials

By David on 18 November 2016 GMT Political Manipulation


https://www.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Drain-the-Swamp-Evan-VucciAP-640x480.jpg

‘President-elect Donald Trump’s transition team announced that they will institute a
five year lobbying ban on members of their administration.

The ban was announced by Trump transition team official Sean Spicer, who stated
that each member of the administration would be required to sign a form stating
that they would not be a lobbyist.Spicer added that registered federal or state
lobbyists would not be allowed to serve in the Trump administration, but did not
explicitly mention former lobbyists.

“It goes back to Mr. Trump’s goal of making sure that people aren’t using
government to enrich themselves,” Spicer said on a conference call with reporters.’

Read more: Team Trump Announces Five Year Lobbying Ban for Administration Officials

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/11/16/team-trump-announces-five-year-lobbying-ban-for-administration-officials/

[Aurelius]

Dn_UM9ZcOV4

[KiwiElf]

Some Light Un-PC Humour - with some truth mixed in ...;)

TARD (Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder) Epidemic Sweeping Across the Country!

Snowflake Disorder Finally Identified! Treatment More Successful the Sooner it’s Applied!
Wednesday, November 16, 2016 17:50

http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2016/11/epidemic-sweeping-across-the-country-finally-been-identified-treatment-more-successful-the-sooner-its-applied-2859852.html

A Serious Post-Election Disorder Has Finally Been Named

SOTN Editor’s Note:
What the alarming article posted below in its entirety does not reveal is the most serious symptom associated with this disorder. We’re not talking about the compulsive urge to move to Canada or the irrational determination to overturn the official result of the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

* Celebrities threaten to move to Canada, Deplorable and irredeemable ex-fans promise to pick up relocation costs

* Millions of American Citizens and Illegal Aliens With TARD Sign Petition to Overturn Election Result

* Neither are we writing about the uncontrollable obsession by some with TARD to label all fact-reporting websites as ‘Fake News’. Even such corporate media giants as Google, Facebook and Twitter have gotten infected by the TARD bug.

* Super Snowflake Melissa Zimdars Labels 50% of Alt-Media ‘Fake News’

* Google, Facebook, Twitter All Vow Revenge; Will Punish Alt-Media Websites That Publish The Truth

Because so many of those who are afflicted with TARD have literally turned purple with rage and indignation, fury and frustration, anger and exasperation, they can become apoplectic. It is during this dangerous and delicate stage of the illness that they can become vulnerable to participating in the meticulously engineered Purple Revolution.

BEWARE: The Purple Revolution Comes To America…

Once these emotionally debilitated folks have crossed that line into the anarchic territory of staging a full-blown coup d’état, there is very little that can be done for them. Except perhaps to take the plunge by taking the Purple Pill. These can only be obtained from a Trump Tower pharmacy, however.

What follows is a graphic example of an extremely advanced case of TARD. Now everyone ought to understand why this epidemic must be arrested before it goes pandemic!

obamatard

State of the Nation
November 16, 2016

N.B. It has been wisely pointed out by a BIN commenter below that the Trumpsters must take this epidemic very seriously. Here’s why:

“Everyone here needs to take this seriously since TARD is treatable as stated above. If Trumpsters do not make an effort to educate the TARDs, then these poor souls will develop Repetitive TARD … better known as RETARD!!!!” [aka LibTARD in the comment sections of Alt-Media]
(Posted by GWNguy)


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Are You Suffering From Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder (TARD)?

DiscloseTV

Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder is a pattern of pathologically dissociative and psychotic behavior, first observed in the late hours of November 8th 2016, and increasing in severity with passing time. Sufferers of Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder often exhibit pronounced cognitive dissonance, sudden bouts of rage, uncontrollable crying, suicidal ideation, and extreme sadness.

Signs and Symptoms:

People with Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder are characterized by a persistent unwillingness to accept that Donald Trump is going to Make America Great Again.

Individual sufferers often display signs of paranoia and delusion; in acute cases psychotic episodes have been observed. Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder is different from being upset about the results of the 2016 presidential election; People with TARD are unwilling or unable to accept reality, despite irrefutable evidence.

According to the DSM-V, individuals with TARD exhibit most or all of the following symptoms:

– Telling others they are moving to Canada

– Fixated on fantasies about the Electoral College

– Protesting an election no credible source contests the outcome of

– Exclamations that “Someone” should do “Something”

– Acute change in demeanor from pompous and arrogant to fearful and combative

– Claim that anyone who disagrees with them is some combination of Racist, Sexist, Bigoted, Homophobic, and actually some sort of Hitler persona

Causes and Mechanisms:

Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder was directly caused by the election of Donald Trump as President of the United States of America. For many, both in America and worldwide, this was a shocking and unexpected outcome; their preferred news sources having failed to inform them that the alternative candidate was a criminal parasite in such ill health she got chucked into the back of a van like a kidnap victim.

Research is ongoing, but TARD appears to correlate closely with the following environmental and behavioral factors:

– Membership in the Democratic party

– Identifying as a Feminist

– Currently enrolled in college, and/or

– Possession of a Liberal Arts college degree

– Cuckoldry

– Living in a densely populated metropolitan area

– Massive student debt

– Spotty or non-existent work history

– Hipsterism

Diagnosis:

Diagnosis of Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder is straightforward. Ask the patient if Donald Trump is going to be the Next President of the United States of America. Some patients will become agitated, and may attempt to deflect. It’s critical you press them on the issue, even if they start babbling about ‘muh triggers’. A sufferer of TARD will begin to ramble incoherently, often displaying three or more of the symptoms within a short period of time.

Treatment:

The only known effective treatment is exposure therapy. The patient must be repeatedly exposed to reality, and should wear a Make America Great Again hat as long as they are able to tolerate it.

Each exposure should increase in length, after a week the patient should be encouraged to be seen in public wearing the MAGA hat. Coach the patient to refer to Donald Trump as President-Elect Trump.

Patients with TARD are very resistant to treatment, and dangerous in large groups. Any possibility of treatment requires that they be separated from their hive-mind support apparatus; they cannot begin the process of accepting reality in the presence of encouragement towards delusion and irrationality. Separation may require the assistance of law enforcement.

If you have a friend or loved one suffering from TARD, urge them to seek treatment. Together we can beat this scourge, and Make America Great Again!

If by now you haven’t figured out that Facebook and Google are in cahoots with the corrupt government, then I feel for you, but for those who are well aware of the issues it’s high time you switched over to Seen.life. It is a website that is similar to Facebook but without all the censorship crap.

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[turiya]

Stefan does a relatively decent job with his ability to research issues, events & people... I haven't yet listened to what he has on Steve Bannon, but here it is...

Something I have noticed about Steve Bannon... from his appearance it looks like he could take just a little bit more care of himself... perhaps starting with diet... Have to see if Stefan has anything in this regard...


The Untruth About Steve Bannon
Donald Trump's Chief Strategist
(Published on Nov 18, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI0aAVh0dJc____________________________

BREAKING: Donald Trump Fires Loretta Lynch
Offers Job to Jeff Sessions
(Published on Nov 18, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ovtC_EBtdI____________________________

Meet General Flynn: Why the
tough-talking general riles the media
(Published on Nov 18, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_MZN_Xq-mk____________________________

Bill Still offers his opinion regarding the possibility for Jamie Dimon being selected as Treasury Secretary...


SR #1347 – Is J.P. Morgan’s CEO, Jamie Dimon,
Trump’s Pick for Treasury Secretary?
(Published on Nov 17, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg9SitVDu4E____________________________

Obama Encourages People To
Protest Donald Trump - Hannity
(Published on Nov 18, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni9s0ltZHg0

[turiya]

Absentee Ballots still haven't been counted...

I seriously doubt that there will be a need to prosecute her... she will be dead soon enough of her own volition...


SR 1350 – Hillary Clinton Looks Scary
One Week After Election
(Published on Nov 18, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWvcSH346sw______________________________

SR #1352 – Hillary Clinton Cannot
Steal the Election From Trump!
(Published on Nov 19, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMiebsgeIk8______________________________

HILLARY: Most OCCULT CLINTON...
(Published on Oct 25, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQnb1pc4Drw

[Hervé]

OK, if I get this straight, with all these "pardon" rumors going on... in order for Obama to pardon Hillary, she would have to be found guilty, jailed and on skid-row before Obama leaves office... so that, it would be better to wait till Obama is gone, for good, before dropping the gavel, right?

Obama says he ‘can’t pardon’ Snowden unless whistleblower goes to court (https://www.rt.com/usa/367499-obama-snowden-pardon-interview/)

Published time: 19 Nov, 2016 13:33
Get short URL (http://on.rt.com/7vkb)


https://img.rt.com/files/2016.11/original/58304ec1c461880f698b4569.jpg
© Eti Gutman / YouTube


President Obama gave an interview to German media outlets Spiegel and ARD during his visit to Berlin, in which he discussed divisions in the US, his darkest moments as president, and whether Edward Snowden would be pardoned.

[...]

When asked if he would pardon Edward Snowden, Obama said, “I can’t pardon somebody who hasn’t gone before a court and presented themselves, so that’s not something that I would comment on at this point.”

[...]

Full article: https://www.rt.com/usa/367499-obama-snowden-pardon-interview/

[turiya]

OK, if I get this straight, with all these "pardon" rumors going on... in order for Obama to pardon Hillary, she would have to be found guilty, jailed and on skid-row before Obama leaves office... so that, it would be better to wait till Obama is gone, for good, before dropping the gavel, right?

Obama says he ‘can’t pardon’ Snowden unless whistleblower goes to court (https://www.rt.com/usa/367499-obama-snowden-pardon-interview/)

Published time: 19 Nov, 2016 13:33
Get short URL (http://on.rt.com/7vkb)

President Obama gave an interview to German media outlets Spiegel and ARD during his visit to Berlin, in which he discussed divisions in the US, his darkest moments as president, and whether Edward Snowden would be pardoned.

[...]

When asked if he would pardon Edward Snowden, Obama said, “I can’t pardon somebody who hasn’t gone before a court and presented themselves, so that’s not something that I would comment on at this point.”

[...]

Full article: https://www.rt.com/usa/367499-obama-snowden-pardon-interview/

Makes Sense...

a Pardon is only available to an individual that has already been convicted of a crime.
Makes No Sense...

When Jesse Jackson called for President Obama to issue a blanket pardon to Hillary Clinton before he leaves office



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGzZOOy6OKo

[Octavusprime]

Some Light Un-PC Humour - with some truth mixed in ...;)

TARD (Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder) Epidemic Sweeping Across the Country!

Snowflake Disorder Finally Identified! Treatment More Successful the Sooner it’s Applied!
Wednesday, November 16, 2016 17:50

http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2016/11/epidemic-sweeping-across-the-country-finally-been-identified-treatment-more-successful-the-sooner-its-applied-2859852.html

A Serious Post-Election Disorder Has Finally Been Named

SOTN Editor’s Note:
What the alarming article posted below in its entirety does not reveal is the most serious symptom associated with this disorder. We’re not talking about the compulsive urge to move to Canada or the irrational determination to overturn the official result of the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

* Celebrities threaten to move to Canada, Deplorable and irredeemable ex-fans promise to pick up relocation costs

* Millions of American Citizens and Illegal Aliens With TARD Sign Petition to Overturn Election Result

* Neither are we writing about the uncontrollable obsession by some with TARD to label all fact-reporting websites as ‘Fake News’. Even such corporate media giants as Google, Facebook and Twitter have gotten infected by the TARD bug.

* Super Snowflake Melissa Zimdars Labels 50% of Alt-Media ‘Fake News’

* Google, Facebook, Twitter All Vow Revenge; Will Punish Alt-Media Websites That Publish The Truth

Because so many of those who are afflicted with TARD have literally turned purple with rage and indignation, fury and frustration, anger and exasperation, they can become apoplectic. It is during this dangerous and delicate stage of the illness that they can become vulnerable to participating in the meticulously engineered Purple Revolution.

BEWARE: The Purple Revolution Comes To America…

Once these emotionally debilitated folks have crossed that line into the anarchic territory of staging a full-blown coup d’état, there is very little that can be done for them. Except perhaps to take the plunge by taking the Purple Pill. These can only be obtained from a Trump Tower pharmacy, however.

What follows is a graphic example of an extremely advanced case of TARD. Now everyone ought to understand why this epidemic must be arrested before it goes pandemic!

obamatard

State of the Nation
November 16, 2016

N.B. It has been wisely pointed out by a BIN commenter below that the Trumpsters must take this epidemic very seriously. Here’s why:

“Everyone here needs to take this seriously since TARD is treatable as stated above. If Trumpsters do not make an effort to educate the TARDs, then these poor souls will develop Repetitive TARD … better known as RETARD!!!!” [aka LibTARD in the comment sections of Alt-Media]
(Posted by GWNguy)


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Are You Suffering From Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder (TARD)?

DiscloseTV

Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder is a pattern of pathologically dissociative and psychotic behavior, first observed in the late hours of November 8th 2016, and increasing in severity with passing time. Sufferers of Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder often exhibit pronounced cognitive dissonance, sudden bouts of rage, uncontrollable crying, suicidal ideation, and extreme sadness.

Signs and Symptoms:

People with Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder are characterized by a persistent unwillingness to accept that Donald Trump is going to Make America Great Again.

Individual sufferers often display signs of paranoia and delusion; in acute cases psychotic episodes have been observed. Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder is different from being upset about the results of the 2016 presidential election; People with TARD are unwilling or unable to accept reality, despite irrefutable evidence.

According to the DSM-V, individuals with TARD exhibit most or all of the following symptoms:

– Telling others they are moving to Canada

– Fixated on fantasies about the Electoral College

– Protesting an election no credible source contests the outcome of

– Exclamations that “Someone” should do “Something”

– Acute change in demeanor from pompous and arrogant to fearful and combative

– Claim that anyone who disagrees with them is some combination of Racist, Sexist, Bigoted, Homophobic, and actually some sort of Hitler persona

Causes and Mechanisms:

Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder was directly caused by the election of Donald Trump as President of the United States of America. For many, both in America and worldwide, this was a shocking and unexpected outcome; their preferred news sources having failed to inform them that the alternative candidate was a criminal parasite in such ill health she got chucked into the back of a van like a kidnap victim.

Research is ongoing, but TARD appears to correlate closely with the following environmental and behavioral factors:

– Membership in the Democratic party

– Identifying as a Feminist

– Currently enrolled in college, and/or

– Possession of a Liberal Arts college degree

– Cuckoldry

– Living in a densely populated metropolitan area

– Massive student debt

– Spotty or non-existent work history

– Hipsterism

Diagnosis:

Diagnosis of Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder is straightforward. Ask the patient if Donald Trump is going to be the Next President of the United States of America. Some patients will become agitated, and may attempt to deflect. It’s critical you press them on the issue, even if they start babbling about ‘muh triggers’. A sufferer of TARD will begin to ramble incoherently, often displaying three or more of the symptoms within a short period of time.

Treatment:

The only known effective treatment is exposure therapy. The patient must be repeatedly exposed to reality, and should wear a Make America Great Again hat as long as they are able to tolerate it.

Each exposure should increase in length, after a week the patient should be encouraged to be seen in public wearing the MAGA hat. Coach the patient to refer to Donald Trump as President-Elect Trump.

Patients with TARD are very resistant to treatment, and dangerous in large groups. Any possibility of treatment requires that they be separated from their hive-mind support apparatus; they cannot begin the process of accepting reality in the presence of encouragement towards delusion and irrationality. Separation may require the assistance of law enforcement.

If you have a friend or loved one suffering from TARD, urge them to seek treatment. Together we can beat this scourge, and Make America Great Again!

If by now you haven’t figured out that Facebook and Google are in cahoots with the corrupt government, then I feel for you, but for those who are well aware of the issues it’s high time you switched over to Seen.life. It is a website that is similar to Facebook but without all the censorship crap.

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Your disclaimer is a joke. Your post is one of the most distasteful things I've seen on Avalon. Thanks for "contributing"... In a time like this where the world is so polarized, some choose to reach out a hand and yet others like to pour gas on the already burning fire.

[Octavusprime]

I've been avoiding this thread for the above reason. I figured it would turn south quickly. Today I decide to see what this thread is about and within a few posts see this crap. Disappointing. Off I go.

[TargeT]

Your disclaimer is a joke. Your post is one of the most distasteful things I've seen on Avalon. Thanks for "contributing"... In a time like this where the world is so polarized, some choose to reach out a hand and yet others like to pour gas on the already burning fire.

So don't discuss it, ignore it and hope it goes away?

This seems to be obviously a joke/satire; what exactly about this seemed off to you?

Why is this polarizing, I don't think any democrat/leftist would look at that and think it's an accurate description of themselves, it's over the top to be humorous; surely if nothing else we can laugh at ourselves through situations like this.

[Octavusprime]

The use of snowflake, tard, retard isn't funny to me. It's use is demeaning and isn't something intelligent people say when they speak to other human beings. So posting some word vomit over the top anti-liberal bull****t is an underhanded way of supporting said "joke".

Yes it is ridiculous. I just don't promote things I find ridiculous.

And just to be clear, if someone posted a long ass satirical "joke" article that states Trump supporters are inbred, redneck, backassward retards, I would find the same offense.

Anyway have fun.

[AutumnW]

What my intuition tells me - and I hope I am wrong: and, by the way, I was weirdly exhilarated by Hildebeest's defeat, is this:

Hillary Clinton is a psychopath who can turn the charm on or off, at whim. But don't kid yourselves, Trump is no different. He is a true bullsh** artist who has nothing but contempt for his core constituents, in places like the rust belt. He knows damn well that there will be very few jobs created if America reindustrializes, largely due to automation.

He won't prosecute the Clinton's and he isn't going to follow through or even push for a lot of the reforms he ran on. He is going to be led around by the nose, by deep state insiders because he knows squat about how to run a govt. and they do.

You know what he's going to do a lot of? He is going to golf, schmooze and enrich himself, totally unconcerned about the 99% outside of his class. He's a narcissistic, rich boy, a .001%'er. who, regardless of any claims to the contrary, would characterize nearly all those who voted for him as, 'losers.'

I DO like his (and his deep state buddy's) approach to Russia and his giving Saudi Arabia the finger. That's a YUGE bonus, if he sticks to it. But note his belligerence to Iran. This makes no sense. The potential to start a global fluster cluck that removes Iranian oil from the market is VERY beneficial to Saudi Arabia. Please pay attention to these 'little details' that make no sense.

They are little red flags that could become banners large enough to blanket your entire country, Christo style.

[turiya]

The use of snowflake, tard, retard isn't funny to me. It's use is demeaning and isn't something intelligent people say when they speak to other human beings. So posting some word vomit over the top anti-liberal bull****t is an underhanded way of supporting said "joke".

Yes it is ridiculous. I just don't promote things I find ridiculous.

And just to be clear, if someone posted a long ass satirical "joke" article that states Trump supporters are inbred, redneck, backassward retards, I would find the same offense.

Anyway have fun.

Yes, having fun - its important...

I see that you have not heard, as of yet... that 'Political Correctness' has come to its final conclusion, thanks to Donald Trump.

As, 'Political Correctness' is a form - an underhanded form - of censorship. Its a ploy used to take away one's First Amendment right to exercise one's freedom of speech. And also, as can be seen here, is used to prevent one from exercising their human capacity (also a right) to have & use their 'sense of humor'... as a human being is the only animal that has the ability & capability to laugh.


...if someone posted a long ass satirical "joke" article that states Trump supporters are inbred, redneck, backassward retards, I would find the same offense.

Although it wasn't meant to be a joke, Hillary Clinton, in a speech during her campaign, attempted to put-down Trump supporters by calling them a "Basket of Deplorables".

How did the Trump supporters take it???

They proudly accepted the label as it was meant to be taken. It was an attack on their being a part of Trump's anti-establishment movement...

And, like all attempts to attack Trump for what he has said, especially by the MSM, it all has backfired. With each attack, Trump's popularity soared ever more higher & higher...

People gladly bore & displayed their label in a variety of ways... It was marketed. I think its an omen for what is to come with a Trump presidency... Being left with a disintegrating & deplorable economic situation that is set to implode around the time he takes his Oath of Office...


Deplorable lives matter
http://www.fxtribune.com/images/haberler/meet_donald_trumps_basket_of_deplorables_toronto_star_m6.jpg

T-Shirt
(Warning: May Draw Snowflakes Your Way)
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41y6QTr8tdL._SX342_.jpg

The Deplorables
https://cmgajcjaybookman.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/deplor.jpg

Oh, Deplorable Me!
https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s--qgMavsX9--/t_Resized%20Artwork/c_fit,w_470/c_crop,g_north_west,h_626,w_470,x_0,y_0/g_north_west,u_upload:v1462829020:production:blanks:h778z1f0n6g0xugjpxxm,x_-395,y_-325/b_rgb:eeeeee/c_limit,f_jpg,h_630,q_90,w_630/v1474311864/production/designs/690185_3.jpg

Drink yourself into Deplorability
w/ a Deplorable Coffee Cup
https://img1.etsystatic.com/105/0/13228171/il_340x270.1088454169_56kp.jpg

Or cover your Deplorable Head
with your Depolorable Hat
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[KiwiElf]

There is an annual contest at Texas A&M University calling for the most appropriate definition of a contemporary term. The term for the 2007 competition was:

“Political Correctness"

Here’s the winner's definition:

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of turd by the clean end.”

[Octavusprime]

First off, I'm not a Hillary supporter. I find that both Trump and Hillary are two sides of the same coin. The election was a huge production used to divide the country and keep the massive power base secure.

Second my displeasure has nothing to do with political correctness. You can put that label on it if you will but as Target has stated in other posts, this is your perception. You can manipulate this perception all you want. I don't think people should try to find ways to verbally belittle, degrade or stereotype a large group of people. It's a pretty simple position and has nothing to do with being an overly sensitive snowflake. In fact if you ever were to meet me in real life you would likely think the exact opposite. I do get enraged when ignorance is spread in whatever form it may take. The post is in my view ignorant and hate based garbage under the umbrella of "humor".

The tactic is to label my offense as being sensitive and manipulated by media induced political correctness. This is a veiled attempt at justifying name calling. We can devolve into 5 year olds and call each other poo poo heads and dummies or we can act like mature enlightened adults and not encourage the behavior.

You can justify your behavior and keep telling yourself that the issue is in others and not yourself. We snowflakes just need to join the fun right? We need to embrace terms like homo, fag, ******, snowflake, deplorable, retard and whatever vile words we can come up with to vilify other humans that aren't like us, correct? Is this the argument being made? I'm going to the extreme to prove a point. When we attack others with hurtful words and spread such non-sense as humor we are only encouraging hate and division in the world. The world needs this not.

Now this is why I need to stay out of these threads. I've seen too much name calling and verbal attacks over this election period. It has brought out the worst in people from all sides of the spectrum. It has worn my patience thin. I think I need to work out now and then do some meditation and reflection.

[TODD & NORA]

Interesting to note that the 'Judgment' and 'The Star' cards are the only two cards tilted out of the eight cards on the Economist cover...and worth noting is that the Judgment card is the 20th card, while The Star card is the 17th card. 20-17 is set apart. This implies a prophecy consistent with the Red Star Kachina prophecy.

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John Moore stated that there would be maximum distractions when Planet X passage is imminent. Here is a background video on his work (recommend starting on 32:20 mark).

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Something to keep on your radar...keep in mind that no one has a perfect batting average when it comes to future predictions.

[TargeT]

First off, I'm not a Hillary supporter. I find that both Trump and Hillary are two sides of the same coin. The election was a huge production used to divide the country and keep the massive power base secure.

Second my displeasure has nothing to do with political correctness. You can put that label on it if you will but as Target has stated in other posts, this is your perception. You can manipulate this perception all you want. I don't think people should try to find ways to verbally belittle, degrade or stereotype a large group of people. It's a pretty simple position and has nothing to do with being an overly sensitive snowflake. In fact if you ever were to meet me in real life you would likely think the exact opposite. I do get enraged when ignorance is spread in whatever form it may take. The post is in my view ignorant and hate based garbage under the umbrella of "humor".

The tactic is to label my offense as being sensitive and manipulated by media induced political correctness. This is a veiled attempt at justifying name calling. We can devolve into 5 year olds and call each other poo poo heads and dummies or we can act like mature enlightened adults and not encourage the behavior.

You can justify your behavior and keep telling yourself that the issue is in others and not yourself. We snowflakes just need to join the fun right? We need to embrace terms like homo, fag, ******, snowflake, deplorable, retard and whatever vile words we can come up with to vilify other humans that aren't like us, correct? Is this the argument being made? I'm going to the extreme to prove a point. When we attack others with hurtful words and spread such non-sense as humor we are only encouraging hate and division in the world. The world needs this not.

Now this is why I need to stay out of these threads. I've seen too much name calling and verbal attacks over this election period. It has brought out the worst in people from all sides of the spectrum. It has worn my patience thin. I think I need to work out now and then do some meditation and reflection.

But you see how the above joke was a response to the trump supporters being called MUCH WORSE than snow flake, right?

On this very forum it's been insinuated that I am a rape apologist, a racist, sexist, misogynist and maybe even a nazi (not sure, I don't pay too much attention to those silly comments) but these are just the reactions from emotionally charged individuals trying to deal with their own belief systems in the face of confrontation. very human.

I find the use of "snow flake" and the other terms much much more civilized than calling people racist, sexist, xenophobes, white supremicists etx..


I don't think this type of push back from "the right" should be unexpected after the months of "push" from the left... in fact it's a rather gentile push back compared to calling someone a rapist, sexist, xenophobe, homophobe, hell the list goes on and on..


The abuse from the left won't be quietly taken anymore. I think this is very healthy. HOWEVER, I did feel the "Right" seemed more adult when they just ignored the "Left" tactics.... oh well.

[Octavusprime]

I agree that snowflake and racist aren't on the same level of offense. Retard may be equivalent but really it is all in the eye of the beholder or in this case the person or people feeling the brunt of the attack. I do also acknowledge that this is just a big vicious cycle where each side is looking to call the other side a worse offense. My issue is where will it stop? I think it starts with each of us. We endorse or reject the cycle based on our actions and words. When we copy/paste such nonsense it is a full endorsement in my eyes.

I've never thought of you as a racist, sexist or any other horrible thing. I do think you are aggressive at times and bit blunt with your responses. I however enjoy that about you and find it refreshing. Having someone challenge your beliefs and challenge the status quo are all good and healthy things when done correctly.

Kiwi/Turiya and any others my post may have offended. I do apologize for my aggressive tone in my posts. The world and my life have been quite chaotic as of late.

Respectfully yours,

Octavusprime

[TargeT]

any others my post may have offended. I do apologize for my aggressive tone in my posts. The world and my life have been quite chaotic as of late.



I've never been offended by your posts, I don't think you should apologize for anything. If you see in your self that you need improvement then I applaud that, not because you need it, but because it's always a great goal.

Be you, its the least you can do for others ;)

[turiya]

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Fear And Loathing
Inside The Deep State (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-19/fear-and-loathing-inside-deep-state)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Nov 19, 2016 9:45 PM
Submitted by Larchmonter445 via The Saker, (http://thesaker.is/fear-and-loathing-inside-the-deep-state/)


Everyone in the Deep State is threatened by the Trump Presidency. The Deep State understands that power, funding, ideological stratagems and domination of government, media, academia, think tanks and NGOs are in the ‘field of fight’, to use the book title by a prime target the Deep State intends to destroy in order to save itself from Trump.


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Lt. General (ret.) Michael T. Flynn

Lt. General (ret.) Michael T. Flynn, three-star expert in Military Intelligence, former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), counselor to Trump for the last fifteen months, is a vital Trump ally (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nearly-the-entire-national-security-establishment-has-rejected-trumpexcept-for-this-man/2016/08/15/d5072d96-5e4b-11e6-8e45-477372e89d78_story.html?tid=a_inl) the Deep State is attempting to discredit.

We have seen the one-week ferocious political and media attack on Stephen Bannon, begun the instant that Bannon was named Trump’s number one strategist-advisor. Bannon is the theologian of Drain the Swamp, the Trump policy to rid the system of corruption and catastrophically disastrous policies and bureaucrat enablers.

To understand Steve Bannon, take the time to read this transcription (https://www.buzzfeed.com/lesterfeder/this-is-how-steve-bannon-sees-the-entire-world?utm_term=.eoDzY83GGg#.cwY58DyJJv) or listen to the audio Q&A from a 2014 event in the Vatican. He lays out his philosophical agenda, and used the 2016 campaign to advance his war on the Elites.

Drain the Swamp pertains to more than getting the corruption out of the system.


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Steve Bannon

Bannon now has Trump’s full backing to destroy the UniParty, defeat the Globalists, banish the warmongers of the MIC and help the legal prosecution of the corrupt. This is the Revolution to end the domestic Tyranny and the global Hegemon.

The usual weapons of personal destruction have been launched at Bannon to destroy him and to deprive Trump of his most effective counselor and field marshall. Bannon has been branded a racist, an anti-semite, a white supremacist, an Islamophobe and a misogynist. In every forum and media outlet, the meme of Bannon being the worst human on the planet played as intensively as how the Dems attacked Trump during the campaign.

Relentless lies, chorused by every host, talking head, and hater of every value Trump and Bannon had campaigned for were spewed on Bannon’s name. All fabricated, most based on a few headlines written by Milo Yiannopoulos in Breitbart.com, alt right agitprop pieces constructed to collect reader clicks, revenues for Breitbart and fame for Milo. Bannon as chief of Breitbart was then scourged for those headlines. Mockery by Milo used against Steve Bannon.

It was all the Media needed. But the Deep State directed it for good reason. Bannon is the Pale Rider coming to destroy them.


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Steve Bannon is dedicated to cleansing government and the financial system controlled by all those who have reigned over the foreign regime changes, the transfer of middle class wealth and income to Wall Street, paper wealth from derivatives to hedge fund and corporate global leaders, trillions to the 0.01% elites, all of whom populate the Ultra Wealthy Class, a new feudalism of billionaires and millionaires.

Bannon’s life long credentials and work with Jews, Blacks, females and Muslims eventually helped stifle the Media excesses. But the vicious branding may stick long after the inauguration.

The fear and loathing of the Deep State is focused on another nemesis and threat in the person of General Flynn (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/with-trump-about-to-learn-the-nations-deepest-secrets-a-sense-of-dread-in-the-intelligence-community/2016/11/09/e4206810-a676-11e6-ba59-a7d93165c6d4_story.html?tid=a_inl). Flynn challenges the Deep State’s incompetence, particularly its lack of results in the fight against terrorism. Flynn dealt with this in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. He wrote a white paper (http://www.defenseinnovationmarketplace.mil/resources/20140211_IntelligenceAnalysisWhitePaper_PA.pdf) on the state of US military Intelligence and the need to fix it.

Flynn also is sickened with the 2012 Benghazi event and coverup, the lies of Clinton and the abandonment by the command structure of CIA, Pentagon, State and NSC. The Syrian war, the attempted coup of Erdogan, and the carnage wrought by bad policies, sheepish leadership and less-than-best methods of Intelligence gathering and usage motivated the General to join Trump.

Flynn is now Trump’s guide into the Presidential raw data Intel reports and briefings. General Flynn is Trump’s personal analyst for interpretation of the data. Flynn has attended every briefing Trump has received. He is in place and the Deep State is out. So, they have mounted their counter-attack as soon as it was clear he would head the reform of the Intelligence community, and serve the newly elected President.

Flynn has recruited over two hundred generals and admirals and twenty-two Medal of Honor recipients to the successful Trump campaign. Now some of the generals are possible cabinet or undersecretary department nominees or agency appointees.

The Deep State is in deep trouble. General Flynn will probably be NSC head and I think he will have real power over fifteen other Intelligence agencies. Flynn may have great power over huge swaths of the MIC. He certainly will assist in the cleaning out of neocons and feckless employees, managers, supervisors and directors.

Against Flynn, the Deep State is using a more traditional model of career attack and personal destruction than it did with Bannon. Multiple articles (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/moscow-had-contacts-with-trump-team-during-campaign-russian-diplomat-says/2016/11/10/28fb82fa-a73d-11e6-9bd6-184ab22d218e_story.html) written to show that Flynn and Putin (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/08/15/trump-adviser-michael-t-flynn-on-his-dinner-with-putin-and-why-russia-today-is-just-like-cnn/?tid=a_inlrelevant-in-afghanistan), Flynn and Russia, Flynn and RT media are part of the Trump gang of pro-Russian contacts connected to the Kremlin (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sergei-ryabkov-trump-team-moscow-contacts).

Below is General Flynn at dinner with President Putin in Moscow. He explains in an interview (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/08/15/trump-adviser-michael-t-flynn-on-his-dinner-with-putin-and-why-russia-today-is-just-like-cnn/?tid=a_inlrelevant-in-afghanistan).


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Other Trump-Putin supposed contacts are Carter Page and Paul Manafort, both of whom were attacked by the Media for the Deep State months ago. They resigned under political pressure applied through the media.

In a payback, the Deep State lost some of their own sent to the Trump campaign who were unable to survive first inspection. They were dropped from the Trump campaign (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/key-figures-purged-from-trump-transition-team/2016/11/15/ed4e2a36-ab6b-11e6-8b45-f8e493f06fcd_story.html) transition team.

But, once Trump is sworn in, Carter Page will be back, most likely. He has connections to Gazprom, is well-liked in Moscow, and will be a link for American energy companies and perhaps some joint ventures in the gas field development and pipeline industry. Several friends of Trump are from the gas and oil industry, and the world is a small world when energy is the issue. The Arctic, the eastern Mediterranean, the South China Sea and other large development zones have enormous new fields to be tapped and exploited. Even the Black Sea zone around Crimea has yet-to-be-tapped energy stores.

The primary interest of the Trump foreign policy will be to make America wealthy again. The Eurasian development has already attracted Trump to the OBOR of China and the AIIB infrastructure bank. Probably the entire New Silk Road of China and EAEU of Russia is not going to be without major US participation. The difference now is facilitation, participation, investment and benefits instead of obstruction, destabilization and terrorism used to thwart it all.

To destroy Flynn and weaken Trump with the Intelligence and Military communities, the classic Washington technique of long articles with many negative anonymous sourced comments was used, carefully crafted headlines and paragraph headers, all designed for very negative Google Search feeds.

The latest is about Flynn and Turkish “operatives” (http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/16/trump-adviser-recently-met-with-operatives-linked-to-turkish-government-agents/). Sounds like they met in dark alleys or underground passageways. Maybe in some Ankara safehouse, eh?

It turns out quite differently.


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Hilal Mutlu (left) and Ibrahim Kurtulus (center)
with Retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn at Oct. 10, 2016 event.
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But Flynn is obviously being watched closely by CIA/State Dept. They know he is doing the bidding of Trump. And for good reason, Trump needs to know which way Turkey is leaning post-coup? And how sensitive is the Kurd issue in Syria? What are the ramifications of the US and Russia working in tandem against ISIS in Syria? Will Turkey help with safe zones for refugees? Will Turkey leave Syria after the war or does it plan to resist Russia and Assad? What about NATO? What about the Uyghurs Turkey protects, and is China being forced to come with military to put down the Uyghurs inside ISIS? Will the issue of demanding Fethullah Gulen’s extradition continue? Will there be mass death penalties for the imprisoned coup participants and Gulen’s followers?

Flynn had a panoply of possible questions to be answered by the operatives from Erdogan. And the Turks would have questions they wanted answered with some hint of Trump’s positions.

The Deep State are tracking Flynn and the Turks and are now exposing his links as a professional consultant. Nothing illegal. Nothing suspicious. Nothing out of the ordinary. But it was General Flynn, Trump’s guy. Smear him.

How else would this information surface in the Washington Post except from the Deep State? And if you know the history of the Deep State, the WaPo is their first choice for all leaks, briefings in depth, exposes used to undermine officials who cross them or who point to the Deep States’ misdeeds or failures. You won’t find Sy Hersh’s articles in WaPo.

The point of the articles about General Flynn was to shame him, to put down his personality, his lack of obedience to the Obama regime. He was investigated for giving Intel to foreign nations, we are told. He shared Intelligence with the Pakistanis, we are told. Read how his fellow generals talk about him. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nearly-the-entire-national-security-establishment-has-rejected-trumpexcept-for-this-man/2016/08/15/d5072d96-5e4b-11e6-8e45-477372e89d78_story.html?tid=a_inl)

Imagine if the Deep State decided that Intelligence should never be shared. Well, the U.S. would have no allies. No nation joins a war effort without Intelligence for their military. Flynn, whose entire thirty-plus year career has been in Intelligence understands that. And he did it. Proudly, he related to the investigators, and it all was dropped except the record and the reporting of it now.

The investigation was actually to cast a black mark on Flynn to be found later, by the uninformed, at the most sensitive of times. In this case, it is to weaken Flynn, to weaken Trump.

“Mike Flynn shares Intel. Mike Flynn acts without checking with what the Deep State wants.” It turns out that Flynn did get approval for all he did (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/08/15/trump-adviser-michael-t-flynn-on-his-dinner-with-putin-and-why-russia-today-is-just-like-cnn/?tid=a_inlrelevant-in-afghanistan). But he simply did the professional thing. He acted in behalf of his specialty, his profession, his oath of duty and the American people who paid him to protect America.

There is something to be gained by studying this meeting with Turkey’s operatives. Flynn’s meeting signals that Trump will not likely arm the Kurds with heavy weapons. That would drive Turkey into the Russian-Iranian embrace fully. A practical solution to defeating ISIS and AQ and ending the Syrian war has to avoid losing Turkey. Trump is not going to be trying to coup anyone. His policy is no regime changes. He also does not like these secret wars of the CIA. If there is to be war, he wants it fought by the military, with a plan for victory. Principally, Trump’s wars will be like President Eisenhower’s. There were none for eight years.

The warmongers and neocons of the Deep State and surface government will try to work over all the Trump nominees in the security and policy arena. Trump has refused to listen to any of them, though a few have been invited in to the goings on. However, we don’t know who is talking to Trump and who is talking to the various panels of experts that will advise who they think he should select. So a few neocons and warmongers like John Bolton and General Keane have made it into Trump Tower. But he eschewed them all these years and throughout the campaign. I doubt they will have any role in policy. He considers them failures.

Expect very deep shakeouts at CIA and State. I think Flynn will use fellow military he knows and trusts as deputies and undersecretaries. General Keith Kellogg and General Ronald Burgess are likely for important positions.

There has to be this cleaning out of the subterranean world of the Deep State. If President Carter got rid of 800 officers when Stansfield Turner tried cleaning out the CIA, I’m betting there are 1500 officers in the CIA who need retirement now.

As for the State Department and the Clinton corruption of pay for play, that is only half the problem. The eighty years of Khazarian dominance of the State Department has created the need that whole thing ought to be shut down except for visas at embassies and consulates. (I’d use the Commerce Department in the interim. Send everyone else from State home. Board up Foggy Bottom for ten years.)

Addendum: General Flynn early in the primary campaign consulted as advisor to five candidates. Carly Fiorina, Scott Walker, Ben Carson, Ted Cruz, and Donald Trump. He chose Trump as the one who wanted to be President in order to fix the country and make America great again. Now, Trump, Bannon and Flynn are going to drain the swamp, if they can survive.

(Flynn has been named NSC Advisor and will command a staff of 400 from all the other Intel agencies, it has been reported by Fox and AP.)

SOURCE (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-19/fear-and-loathing-inside-deep-state)

[Bill Ryan]

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I've copied this from a post I just made (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78116-RECORD-of-MODERATOR-ACTIONS&p=1115478&viewfull=1#post1115478) on the Moderator Actions thread.

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We don't usually announce thread title amendments and thread moves here, because most of them are not that significant, and in almost all cases it's simple to see what's happened and why. But turiya (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?10634-turiya) has asked us to change the title of his major Transition into Trump (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90590-Transition-into-Trump) thread back to its original, and also return it to the Politics section.

Worth sharing, I think, is this part of my PM reply to him just now.


It was me who changed the title of the thread after Trump's election victory, to kind of headline to members and guests on the morning of 9 November just what had happened. It seemed a neat way ('Transitioned') to signal the reality of the event. Happy to change it back: yes, the transition is still in progress, and yes, I've moved it to 'Politics', rather than the more specific newly created '2016 Election' section, where it did properly belong before.

Good work, by the way. Whatever one's political persuasions -- or real, sincere, concerns -- the thread has become one of the key go-to repositories for important updates and ongoing developments which may affect us all, wherever we live.

My request (as is discussed on Whiskey_Mystic's 'farewell' thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94588-A-Final-Farewell)), is that we continue to stick to good journalism, respect for all views, and intelligent, measured discussion of all these very important issues.

With all best wishes ~ Bill

[ThePythonicCow]

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Here is an important (in my view) and well written article on a blog I don't usually visit: Election Rejection: Liberal Hatred and Hypocrisy Rage in Violence Due to Biased Media (David Haggith; The Great Recession Blog) (http://thegreatrecession.info/blog/liberal-hatred-in-biased-media/). I first saw the article reposted on Zerohedge, here (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-20/election-rejection-liberal-hatred-and-hypocrisy-rage-violence-due-biased-media).

I would be quite interested in hearing what some of those who are more doubtful of Trump think of this article. My political bias leans more favorable to Trump.

I found that this article provides an excellent, clear thinking, well researched and well written analysis of the anti-Trump protests and objections, and in particular of how much of the media, both "left" and "alt-right" is feeding these protests and objections with inflammatory rhetoric and flawed reporting.

The article is a bit long to repost here, and it's easier to read when presented in its original formatting, at the above link (http://thegreatrecession.info/blog/liberal-hatred-in-biased-media/).

It's analysis of Trump's infamous "grab them by the ..." remark is spot on, in my view, and it reveals compelling evidence that the line of buses in Austin, Texas, near an anti-Trump protest, as shown in recent photos uploaded to twitter, were not used to bus in the protesters.

There is quite a bit more in the article, and I look forward to reading the comments of others on this article. Thanks.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

I would be quite interested in hearing what some of those who are more doubtful of Trump think of this article. My political bias leans more favorable to Trump.

This post is intended to be politically neutral. I'm saying that because I really don't like getting bogged down by people assuming I must be one of us or one of them. That's boring.

It's my experience here in Lib Central (San Francisco) that people are freaking out because of things that the president elect has actually said. People interpret things in different ways, but overall, his rhetoric has frightened them.

I'm just pointing out the perceptions that exist and why people are so frightened- not whether or not they should be. I'm trying to choose my words very carefully to avoid unnecessary tangental debates.

Muslim Americans are afraid that they will be registered and tracked. Because they perceive that the president elect said they would be.

Illegal immigrants, including people who have never known another country as home, are afraid of being deported or having their families split up. Because they perceive that the president elect said they would be.

People who are concerned about global warming as a civilization level threat and our number one national security concern are frightened that the president elect thinks that global warming is a hoax perpetuated by China. Because they perceive that the president elect said it was.

The list goes on. Yes, the media is biased. In my opinion, they are not liberal-biased. They are instead biased towards sensationalism resulting in eyeballs resulting in dollars. Trump's demeanor and maverick nature provide that sensationalism they love so much. If the media were so politically biased as to be opposed to Trump outright, they never would have given him the level of attention that helped him get elected. They gave him that attention because it gave them eyeballs. Yes, the media "Trumped up" every controversial thing that came out of Trumps mouth or Twitter feed, but you also have to admit, he gave them plenty to work with. To me, that shows a lack of judgement and self control on his part.

Should the media have dug deep into Clinton's shady dealings and dirty tricks? Absolutely, and in fact the ultra liberal TYT did just that while criticizing MSNBC and CNN for being Clinton apologists.

I think it is true that media as a whole leans left when it comes to broadcast news, but leans extremely right when it comes to radio.

[turiya]

This also from ZeroHedge...



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"The Last Handshake" Caption Contest:
The Final Photo Of Obama And Putin Together?
(http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-20/last-handshake-caption-contest-final-photo-obama-and-putin-together)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Nov 19, 2016 9:50 PM

While China's president Xi was busy dancing on the grave of TPP and rolling out its own regional free-trade alternative (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-19/tpp-dead-china-officially-launches-its-own-pacific-trade-deal) during the APEC summit in Peru, Obama was just as busy defending his vanishing legacy to an international audience for the last time. He was even busier projecting his denial before the entire world. As AFP reports, after the APEC summit closed (https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-defends-legacy-asia-pacific-summit-224951240.html) on Sunday, Obama insisted that the 12-nation trans-Pacific deal, a key part of his now failed "pivot" to Asia, was far from dead and those involved still wanted to move forward with the United States.

Actually, no, it's dead, but what is very much alive was Obama's sudden realization that the policies he had been pushing for 8 years have led to a "globallized" world that has never been more splintered and where the wealth trickled-up, crushing the middle class just as the "fringe blogs" warned would happen:

The president also sought to answer rising concerns about globalization, saying that "historic gains in prosperity" had not been evenly distributed and there was a growing gap between rich and poor.

"That can reverberate through our politics," he said. "That's why I firmly believe one of our greatest challenges in the years ahead across our nations and within them will be to make sure that the benefits of the global economy are shared by more people."

No Barack, it will not be your challenge. You are now out, leaving behind just a fake - and fading - facade of a recovery narrative built upon $15 trillion in global central bank liquidity, meant to prop up stock markets to all time highs even as a violent protest movement against your policies resulted in the biggest political shock of a generation... that and an all too real $20 trillion in government debt.

There is one way your departure will be missed, however: by exiting the global political arena, you will also deprive the world of what may have been the best photo ops ever: those between the departing US president, and the remaining Russian one.

Today, we witnessed one final such historic event, when in what is likely to be their last in-person meeting before Obama leaves office, the US president and his Russian counterpart Putin "spoke for around about four minutes" on Sunday at the APEC summit.

As Reuters recounts their final meeting (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-idUSKBN13F0U8), the two men met at the start of the summit meeting in Lima, Peru's capital. They exchanged pleasantries and remained standing as they spoke.

What was said was irrelevant, but goes along the following lines (according to Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-idUSKBN13F0U8)):

"the president urged President Putin to uphold Russia's commitments under the Minsk agreements, underscoring the U.S. and our partners' commitment to Ukraine's sovereignty," a White House official said. Obama also emphasized the need for their two countries' foreign ministers "to continue pursuing initiatives, together with the broader international community, to diminish the violence and alleviate the suffering of the Syrian people."

After their brief talk, Obama greeted others at the meeting before sitting down.

It is unclear if Putin laughed before or after Obama was done dispensing "advice." He did, however, shake Obama's hand for the last time, as the following two historic, and sublimely captionable, photos reveal.

We leave it up to readers to decide what may have been on either leader's mind in this moment which distilled and sublimated the past 8 years of global history into just one second.

Before:


http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2016/11/06/putin%20obama%20final%20photo%201_0.jpg

And After:


http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2016/11/06/putin%20obama%20final%20photo%202_0.jpg

SOURCE (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-20/last-handshake-caption-contest-final-photo-obama-and-putin-together)

[ThePythonicCow]

It's my experienced here in Lib Central (San Francisco) that people are freaking out because of things that the president elect has actually said. People interpret things in different ways, but overall, his rhetoric has frightened them.
Yes, my California family (by former marriage) and friends are basing their concerns, in some part, on things that Trump said.

However that article I linked casts a different light on some of these Trump quotations, as well as on some of the alt-media's take on the protests.

My hunch however is that those who have been freaking out at a coming Trump presidency will not read that article I linked as I read it. I am hoping, but not hopeful, that that article will help build a bridge of common understanding.

[turiya]

It's my experienced here in Lib Central (San Francisco) that people are freaking out because of things that the president elect has actually said. People interpret things in different ways, but overall, his rhetoric has frightened them.
Yes, my California family (by former marriage) and friends are basing their concerns, in some part, on things that Trump said.

However that article I linked casts a different light on some of these Trump quotations, as well as on some of the alt-media's take on the protests.

My hunch however is that those who have been freaking out at a coming Trump presidency will not read that article I linked as I read it. I am hoping, but not hopeful, that that article will help build a bridge of common understanding.

I attribute the massive brainwashing that has been done by the Deep State / CIA-based MSM which has led to a total disenchantment by a large part of the population. Its truly incredible... the Deep State has understood for quite a number of decades how malleable & easily influenced the human mind can be shaped into believing in concepts, notions, ideologies.

Stefan Molyneux has a few videos that go over the many misconceptions that have been spun from the liberal MSM. If you have the time, then it may be a good thing to have a better understanding of what has gone on from the onset of Trump's run for the presidency. Lot's of twists & spins on what Donald has actually said.


The Untruth About Donald Trump
(Published on Jan 18, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw8c2Cq-vpg__________________________

The Truth About Donald Drumpf:
John Oliver on Donald Trump
(Published on Mar 7, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf3vW0e_Wgc__________________________

More Untruth About Donald Trump
(Published on Mar 12, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwJZGlC5lXM__________________________

Even More Untruth About Donald Trump
(Published on Sep 16, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vsbr8QMPLWY__________________________

The Truth About The Donald Trump
Sexual Assault Allegations
(Published on Oct 14, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nry7XhjFtpE

More Donald Trump Sexual Assault Allegations
True News
(Published on Oct 16, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJEdli1Q_4k

[Cidersomerset]

They discuss whether Donald Trump can avoid the Neo -con infiltration in his
administration, first reactions and the potential Trumps foreign policy.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

CrossTalk: Bullhorns on Trump's Team

AbtSYNKBYws

Published on 21 Nov 2016
President-elect Donald Trump is in the process of forming his cabinet, particularly his foreign
policy team. Is there the danger he will surround himself with neocons like Obama did?
CrossTalking with Mark Sleboda, Alexander Mercouris, and Matthew Gordon-Banks.


====================================================

A few other articles I have just been browsing thru.......


Meet General Flynn: Why the tough-talking general riles the media

e_MZN_Xq-mk

Published on 18 Nov 2016

President-elect Donald Trump has offered the job of CIA director to Congressman
Mike Pompeo (R-Kansas), Attorney General to Senator Jeff Sessions (R-Alabama),
and National Security Advisor to retired Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, the
transition team has confirmed. Ed Schultz, host of ‘News With Ed,’ presents a brief
history of General Flynn’s career.

====================================================

CIA NN Still grasping at straws..............


CNN anchor, Conway spar over Trump tweets

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Published on 21 Nov 2016
Kellyanne Conway, senior adviser to President-elect Donald Trump, argues with
CNN's Chris Cuomo over Trump's social media use.

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Trump narrows down his Cabinet picks .....CBS speculating.

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Published on 21 Nov 2016

President-elect Donald Trump is set to announce new appointments for his Cabinet.
Who is at the top of his list? CBS News senior political editor Steve Chaggaris and
RealClearPolitics political reporter Caitlin Huey-Burns joins CBSN to discuss the latest.

===================================================


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Journalists refusing to 'normalize' President-elect Trump?

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[Whiskey_Mystic]

It is exhausting to me that people on the left think everyone on the right is brainwashed and mind-controlled. Meanwhile, people on the right think that everyone on the left is brainwashed and mind-controlled. This is a great way to invalidate the thoughts, opinions, and perspectives of people who disagree with you. This is great because then you never have to rethink your own position. Now we can comfortably refrain from understanding the other and can keep our existing reality model intact. Hooray!

[greybeard]

Yes Whiskey--name any position and there will be people of opposing view point
I put it down to ego--the need to be right--even more so in a group--that proves how right I am--other confirm this.
The ego would rather its host die than be proved wrong.

So thats my opinion on it.

Chris

[Cidersomerset]

Elections vs. Reality - Newsbud Roundtable

Rrij0CquepM

Published on 20 Nov 2016


SHOW NOTES: https://www.corbettreport.com/?p=20500

via Newsbud.com: In this week’s edition of Newsbud’s Roundtable Spiro Skouras is
Joined by Newsbud Founder Sibel Edmonds, Newsbud Sr. Producer Kurt Nimmo and
James Corbett of Corbett Report to discuss potential candidates of the Trump Cabinet.
We also discuss the indoctrination process of the youth in public schools and Sibel
issues a call to action against the two-party system indoctrination.

[turiya]

https://kauilapele.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/zero_hedge_logo_31.gif
Trump "Exploded" At Media Execs
During Off-The-Record Meeting:
"It Was A F--king Firing Squad" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-21/trump-exploded-media-execs-during-record-meeting-it-was-f-king-firing-squad)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Nov 21, 2016 5:59 PM

Earlier today we reported that in a "summit" organized by Trump's campaign manager Kellyanne Conway, executives and anchors from the major US media outlets, including CNN president Jeff Zucker, ABC News president James Goldston, Fox News co-presidents Bill Shine and Jack Abernethy, and NBC News president Deborah Turness, visited Donald Trump at his Trump Tower penthouse for an off the record meeting.

Courtesy of the Post, we have a complete list of the participants at the Trump media meeting: the hour-long powwow included top execs from network and cable news channels. Among the attendees were NBC’s Deborah Turness, Lester Holt and Chuck Todd, ABC’s James Goldston, George Stephanopoulos, David Muir and Martha Raddatz, CBS’ Norah O’Donnell, John Dickerson, Charlie Rose, Christopher Isham and Gayle King, Fox News’ Bill Shine, Jack Abernethy, Jay Wallace, Suzanne Scott, MSNBC’s Phil Griffin and CNN’s Jeff Zucker and Erin Burnett.

The contents of what was discussed were initially unclear.


http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2016/11/06/gettyimages-624916402_0.jpg

Now, according to the Post, (http://nypost.com/2016/11/21/donald-trumps-media-summit-was-a-f-ing-firing-squad/) we learn that the President-elect "exploded at media bigs in an off-the-record Trump Tower powow on Monday."

“It was like a f—ing firing squad,” one source told the Post.

According to the Post's recound of the conversation, “Trump started with Jeff Zucker and said I hate your network, everyone at CNN is a liar and you should be ashamed…."


http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2016/11/06/zucker%20trump_0.jpg
Jeff Zucker (left)

“The meeting was a total disaster. The TV execs and anchors went in there thinking they would be discussing the access they would get to the Trump administration, but instead they got a Trump-style dressing down,” the source added. A second source confirmed the encounter.

The Post adds that “the meeting took place in a big board room and there were about 30 or 40 people, including the big news anchors from all the networks…"

“Trump kept saying, ‘We’re in a room of liars, the deceitful dishonest media who got it all wrong. He addressed everyone in the room calling the media dishonest, deceitful liars. He called out Jeff Zucker by name and said everyone at CNN was a liar, and CNN was network of liars.

“Trump didn’t say Katy Tur by name, but talked about an NBC female correspondent who got it wrong, then he referred to a horrible network correspondent who cried when Hillary lost who hosted a debate – which was Martha Raddatz who was also in the room.

“Gayle did not stand up, but asked some question, ‘How do you propose we the media work with you?’ Chuck Todd asked some pretty pointed questions. David Muir asked how are you going to cope living in DC while your family is in NYC? It was a horrible meeting."

Amusingly, since the meeting was off the record, meaning the participants agreed not to talk about the substance of the conversations, it means they will most likely be unable to confirm or deny the Post's report. It also means that if indeed Trump was as confrontational as reported, that the conventional war between the various US media organizations and Trump is about to go nuclear.

SOURCE (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-21/trump-exploded-media-execs-during-record-meeting-it-was-f-king-firing-squad)

[Bob]

opinions opinions... media is 'hurt' that President Elect called them out on the carpet..

http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/11/donald-trump-media-transition-tension-231727

Politico calls it this way:


The source who spoke with POLITICO characterized the meeting as less intense, and said the discussion included Trump expressing the possibility of a “reset” of the tumultuous relationship between the president-elect and the media and that all he wants is “fairness.”

Asked how he defines fairness by a network executive, Trump said simply, “The truth.”

But aside from the few moments of contention in the beginning, the source said the meeting was largely substantive.

He did NOT explode.. he emphasized, report the TRUTH


Trump, flanked by chief of staff Reince Priebus and campaign manager Kellyanne Conway at the table, also expressed annoyance at the protective press pool and the complaints over him ditching the press when he went out to dinner last week with his family after reporters were advised he was in for the night. But Priebus assured the attendees that the protective press pool will be taken care of and it would all work out.

Other attendees at the meeting from Trump's team included chief strategist Stephen Bannon, Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, spokesman Jason Miller, and Republican National Committee chief strategist and communications director Sean Spicer.

Asked for comment, Miller referred POLITICO to Conway’s comments to reporters after the meeting, in which she echoed the sentiments made in the meeting about turning over a new leaf with the media.

“There was no need to mend fences,” Conway said. “It was very cordial, very genial. But it was very candid and very honest. From my own perspective, it’s great to hit the reset button.”

Conway later on Monday hit back at the New York Post report. “He did not explode in anger,” she said.

as they say, 'we shall see' how media chooses to spin and CYA for supporting Hillary more-so and more biased.. Pick ur media MSM reporting source for the current "interpretation"..

[norman]

Ringside With Steve Bannon at Trump Tower as the President-Elect's Strategist Plots "An Entirely New Political Movement"



http://cdn5.thr.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/landscape_928x523/2016/11/gettyimages-619474980-h_2016.jpg

He absolutely — mockingly — rejects the idea that this is a racial line. "I'm not a white nationalist, I'm a nationalist. I'm an economic nationalist," he tells me. "The globalists gutted the American working class and created a middle class in Asia. The issue now is about Americans looking to not get f—ed over. If we deliver" — by "we" he means the Trump White House — "we'll get 60 percent of the white vote, and 40 percent of the black and Hispanic vote and we'll govern for 50 years. That's what the Democrats missed. They were talking to these people with companies with a $9 billion market cap employing nine people. It's not reality. They lost sight of what the world is about."


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-bannon-trump-tower-interview-trumps-strategist-plots-new-political-movement-948747

[turiya]

Seems Donald Trump has 'Fired' the MSM & is now providing his own news via Twitter account...

New Trump Transition Team vid...

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/TRUMP_TWEETS/TUMP_TWITTER_ICON_2.png






.@transition2017 (https://twitter.com/transition2017) update and policy plans
for the first 100 days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsQnd7jLvOU
Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5E serp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)



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Trump Transition Team is considering Ben Carson for a position...

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/TRUMP_TWEETS/TUMP_TWITTER_ICON_2.png






I am seriously considering Dr. Ben Carson as the head of HUD. I've gotten to know him well--he's a greatly talented person who loves people!

9:10 AM - 22 Nov 2016
Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/801110690387857408)

[TODD & NORA]

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/11/21/rigged-election-whos-afraid-of-a-red-herring/

This and other reports to be released will invalidate election results...BEFORE January 20th.

[turiya]

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/11/21/rigged-election-whos-afraid-of-a-red-herring/

This and other reports to be released will invalidate election results...BEFORE January 20th.

Sorry, but Gordon Duff has joined the MSM Propaganda Machine... he's been incessantly after Trump trying to link Donald Trump to the Russian mafia, the mafia in New York [Roy Cohn]... he's been getting more & more bazaar as of late...

Gordon Duff:

"Al Gore would have been a great president"

Wikileaks is run by Saudi & Israeli Intelligence... as well as Jill Stein... who's role is to help Trump be elected...

Trump's a Pathological Liar... and a Scum Bag... a Reality TV Star and hated by anyone with education in the U.S. [own note: i.e. called brainwashing]... he's been a despicable, nightmarish character for years... Everyone around him is organized crime...

On the otherhand, Hillary Clinton is politics as usual... at least its Democratic Party politics... its anti-Big Banking...

John Kerry has been an outstanding Secretary of State... as a Great Secretary of State, He would have been a Great President... as Al Gore...

Hillary's Domestic Policies are Outstanding... for the American People... for education [think Common Core]... for the Environment... for bring New Jobs [think TPP]... she's LOVED for those things...

She's corrupt for what? The Clinton Foundation is Outstanding... The Trump Foundation is Utterly Corrupt...

The email stories... There was nothing in the Emails... [funny how Clinton or her Team never denied what was in the emails... but only that they were illegally obtained... by the Russians]...




US election a choice between
"queen of corruption & predator king"
(Published on Nov 7, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbyEgHaF6jM

[TargeT]

Ringside With Steve Bannon at Trump Tower as the President-Elect's Strategist Plots "An Entirely New Political Movement"



http://cdn5.thr.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/landscape_928x523/2016/11/gettyimages-619474980-h_2016.jpg

He absolutely — mockingly — rejects the idea that this is a racial line. "I'm not a white nationalist, I'm a nationalist. I'm an economic nationalist," he tells me. "The globalists gutted the American working class and created a middle class in Asia. The issue now is about Americans looking to not get f—ed over. If we deliver" — by "we" he means the Trump White House — "we'll get 60 percent of the white vote, and 40 percent of the black and Hispanic vote and we'll govern for 50 years. That's what the Democrats missed. They were talking to these people with companies with a $9 billion market cap employing nine people. It's not reality. They lost sight of what the world is about."


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-bannon-trump-tower-interview-trumps-strategist-plots-new-political-movement-948747



Wow, this guy seems like an exact fit for his new position.. check out this article (super long.)

Here's my favorite part of it:

The theme is all the same. And the theme is middle-class and working-class people — they’re saying, “Hey, I’m working harder than I’ve ever worked. I’m getting less benefits than I’m ever getting through this, I’m incurring less wealth myself, and I’m seeing a system of fat cats who say they’re conservative and say they back capitalist principles, but all they’re doing is binding with corporatists.” Right? Corporatists, to garner all the benefits for themselves.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/lesterfeder/this-is-how-steve-bannon-sees-the-entire-world?utm_term=.ktxxvGaRY4#.eq9OkBzAV4

I'm not so much into the religious angle he pushes, but that's exactly the kind of stuff I want to hear.

[Billy]

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/11/21/rigged-election-whos-afraid-of-a-red-herring/

This and other reports to be released will invalidate election results...BEFORE January 20th.

I think the VT members who are commenting on the GD article are more switched on than GD.

One example and there are many more such comments.


It doesn't matter if it was done by Edison or whoever. Exit polling can easily be manipulated and how do we possibly know whether or not it was? We don't. To write an entire article saying that Trump stole the election via rigging based on their exit polling data is just beyond irresponsible. In all honesty VT has become nothing but an anti Trump propaganda site in recent months.

[TrumanCash]

TRUMP NOT PURSUING CLINTON INVESTIGATIONS (http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/11/22/giuliani-on-trump-not-pursuing-clinton-investigations-he-made-the-choice-to-unite-the-nation/)


Well, well, well--We finally see the real Donald Trump. He won't prosecute Hillary after repeatedly spouting that he would. This may have been the main issue that got him (s)elected. No accountability in government, folks. New boss same as the old boss. Move along, folks--nothing to see here.

He has lied so much and over and over again. He can no longer be trusted. He has definitely demonstrated that he is one of the elitists.

Reminds me of a Simon and Garfunkel song: "Laugh about it, shout about it when you've got to choose; every way you look at it you lose."

Also interesting that the joker in a deck of cards is a "trump" card.

It will also be interesting to watch the cognitive dissonance set in with the trumpsters.

[Bob]

If you recall my post about what I felt (fly on the wall) about him being read "da rules" during his meeting with Obama the very first time, that he was "allowed" to be "elected"... and the rules are Hillary will be pardoned (by Obama), if pressed, that he would just not pursue prosecuting 'hillary and crew'.. A fly on the wall high enough up would be able to read in between the lines.. If he did try to push for 'prosecuting' hillary et crew, chances are, the 'vote' would be contested, the electors 'challenged' and a country in more confusion than we all have now.. My suggestion is WAIT till after January 20th 2017 and then start to evaluate what all is happening. I also said look at the photographics before the election, and right after, and now. Photos say a lot if the expressions, and body language can be read... just my opinion..

[turiya]

If you recall my post about what I felt (fly on the wall) about him being read "da rules" during his meeting with Obama the very first time, that he was "allowed" to be "elected"... and the rules are Hillary will be pardoned (by Obama), if pressed, that he would just not pursue prosecuting 'hillary and crew'.. A fly on the wall high enough up would be able to read in between the lines.. If he did try to push for 'prosecuting' hillary et crew, chances are, the 'vote' would be contested, the electors 'challenged' and a country in more confusion than we all have now.. My suggestion is WAIT till after January 20th 2017 and then start to evaluate what all is happening. I also said look at the photographics before the election, and right after, and now. Photos say a lot if the expressions, and body language can be read... just my opinion..

Agree with you, Bob. Best to focus on getting things going on the 1st 100 days (campaign promises)... plenty of time to look at Clinton Foundation Fraud investigation, as I believe there is no statute of limitations on cases of fraudulent activities...

Its also my view that the Clintons, especially Hillary is a very sick woman, not only physically, but mentally. In fact, the present Criminal Justice System really functions rather poorly when it comes to having criminals becoming 'normal' functioning individuals within a society... Anybody who comits heinous crimes is a sick individual - the cure is not found in punishment. Being imprisoned, only has a high percent of that individual learning how to become more skilled at not getting caught... Prison is a school for the criminally insane... (plenty mentors can be found within those walls).

Hillary will meet her maker soon enough, imo....

[Bob]

If you recall my post about what I felt (fly on the wall) about him being read "da rules" during his meeting with Obama the very first time, that he was "allowed" to be "elected"... and the rules are Hillary will be pardoned (by Obama), if pressed, that he would just not pursue prosecuting 'hillary and crew'.. A fly on the wall high enough up would be able to read in between the lines.. If he did try to push for 'prosecuting' hillary et crew, chances are, the 'vote' would be contested, the electors 'challenged' and a country in more confusion than we all have now.. My suggestion is WAIT till after January 20th 2017 and then start to evaluate what all is happening. I also said look at the photographics before the election, and right after, and now. Photos say a lot if the expressions, and body language can be read... just my opinion..

Agree with you, Bob. Best to focus on getting things going on the 1st 100 days (campaign promises)... plenty of time to look at Clinton Foundation Fraud investigation, as I believe there is no statute of limitations on cases of fraudulent activities...

Its also my view that the Clintons, especially Hillary is a very sick woman, not only physically, but mentally. In fact, the present Criminal Justice System really functions rather poorly when it comes to having criminals becoming 'normal' functioning individuals within a society... Anybody who comits heinous crimes is a sick individual - the cure is not found in punishment. Being imprisoned, only has a high percent of that individual learning how to become more skilled at not getting caught... Prison is a school for the criminally insane... (plenty mentors can be found within those walls).

Hillary will meet her maker soon enough, imo....

The first 100 days will say it no doubt. I would think, the focus currently is "calmness" (as best as the Pres-Elect can 'calm' any situation), get the radical pendulum at as close to the neutral point as possible. Then watch. Read each executive order closely, with an eye on the past (being changed), the present being observed, and what future outcomes will ensue from the action(s).

[KiwiElf]

Perhaps we need to take a "wait and see" approach. I've read several posts on other sites which agree with Trumans' post (above) and others which amplify the exact opposite. None of it is "official" (ie from Trump himself), and a lot of it is amped up & highly exaggerated speculation depending on their bias. We all know the future isn't written in stone, (and frankly, I wouldn't believe much from CNN).

In any case, Hillary, as an individual, has effectively been stripped of any power or influence she may have once wielded. Considering reasonable reports confirmed of her ill health, she is no longer really a problem. In moving forward, will it really serve any useful, positive purpose to convict her now? She's a part of the "swamp", but only a small part. The Clinton Foundation & the Podesta pedo situation is another matter - they are much bigger fish to fry. There's too much info out there now for that to just "disappear".

[TrumanCash]

Actually, it wasn't from CNN. It comes from Trump's very own Kellyanne Conway and from his very own lips that the Clinton's are "good people".

Quoted by Bloomberg, Conway said on MSNBC that "I think when the president-elect...tells you before he’s even inaugurated he doesn’t wish to pursue these charges it sends a very strong message -- tone and content -- to the members," Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway said on MSNBC.
(http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-22/trump-wont-pursue-charges-against-hillary-shes-been-through-enough)
Following MSNBC report that a source said Trump wouldn’t pursue Hillary Clinton investigations, Conway was asked whether Trump would encourage congressional Republicans to stay away from Clinton investigations as well in order to focus on legislative agenda

"I think Hillary Clinton still has to face the fact that a majority of Americans don’t find her to be honest or trustworthy but if Donald Trump can help her heal then perhaps that’s a good thing"

"I think he’s thinking of many different things as he prepares to become the president of the United States and things that sound like the campaign aren’t among them"

Reminds me of Dubya's statement: “There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ux3DKxxFoM) :facepalm:

[KiwiElf]

Errr my comment re CNN wasn't aimed at your source Truman, just a generalisation :) In any case, my above post stands. There really is no point in prosecuting Hillary - the court of public opinion will do that ;).

Making any promise before you become the POTUS is one thing. The reality of what you can do as POTUS is another thing altogether.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

In any case, Hillary, as an individual, has effectively been stripped of any power or influence she may have once wielded. Considering reasonable reports confirmed of her ill health, she is no longer really a problem.

I don't think we have seen the last of the Clintons. Rumor has it that Chelsea is considering running for office. If so, Bill and Hill will focus on grooming her. After all, someone needs to be in Washington protecting the family fortune, right? I don't think we've seen the last of the Bushes either.

[TrumanCash]

I certainly hope that there will be at least a few positive changes with Trump, but I'm not holding my breath on any thing he has said so far.

The last time a president tried to make some really significant changes was JFK and we all know what happened to him. Bypassing the Federal Reserve and firing Allen Dulles was probably enough to have gotten him assassinated. I would think that Trump would know that too much of a change would get him whacked by the CIA, et al, as well.

[KiwiElf]

I agree with both you and Whiskey, Truman :). It's one hell of a big swamp to drain,... for sure.

(I'm being UN-PC again! ;))
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[turiya]

Getting familar with Donald Trump's senior strategic advisor, Steve Bannon...


Steve Bannon Lays Out His
AMAZING Political Philosophy
(Published on Nov 18, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nTd2ZAX_tcPublished on Nov 18, 2016



Speech by Stephen K. Bannon (Steve Bannon), Donald Trump's senior strategic advisor and architect of his winning 2016 election. In this speech delivered to the Liberty Restoration Foundation, Bannon layed out the political philosophy both he and Trump embrace, and which appealed to the American people in the election. It is conservative, perhaps explaining why the political liberal left has resorted to evidently incorrect allegations of antisemitism or racism to try to derail his appointment.

Bannon was a Hollywood producer who created the Seinfeld comedy TV series, and later became the chair of the Brietbart News Service, expanding it into one of the leading news sources nationally, as an alternative to liberal media outlets that previously dominated US media. He joined the Trump campaign in June 2016, leading him to victory and the White House. Do you think that Bannon is racist, as the democrats have alleged?

Originally Uploaded on Nov 20, 2011 (https://youtu.be/0BSrJv0IpHY)



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Bob Dylan
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[norman]

He's right in the 'honest dollar' sense.

He's possibly a mug in the crooked dollar sense.

What do I mean?

The elites were heading flat out towards a state of total bankruptcy and the inevitable reset solution. Sure, they were cutting the middle class right out of the plan.

He's appealing to the dregs of the American middle class to stand for turning the economic system back around to the 'honest dollar' method. Is it even doable any more?

[Smell the Roses]

I am just blown away by the Trump win. My whole worldview has been turned upside-down. Still processing. The posts here help. I guess it was when he insulted Rosie O'Donnell so rudely and everyone laughed and cheered that I stopped listening to him. Now that he won I see Drain the Swamp and such, and people I respect seem so excited. Changing things up is good I guess. When the Access Hollywood tape was released I was surprised to see mainstream culture pretend that they respected women. So I suppose on the whole it's a plus. We certainly don't need Bill and Hillary back in the King's Palace.

[TrumanCash]

Thanks for posting the Steve Bannon video, Turiya. I actually watched the whole thing, a video that I would not call a "documentary" but simply a propaganda video. The whole video is a distraction from the true source of the problems.

First of all, Bannon does not mention that the Federal Reserve is not only unconstitutional, it is a horrendous fraud. A fraud vitiates a contract/agreement. And Federal Reserve "dollars" are not "money" by definition. He does not mention the withdrawal of real money, silver and gold coin, from circulation from 1965 to 1971, which is where things really went south. The US Constitution unequivocally states: "No State shall make any Thing but silver and gold Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts".

He also does not mention the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, et al, and secret societies behind this heinous fraud that may soon bring the world to its knees. No mention of the Bushes, either--definitely a pro-republican video.

Blaming the problem on "baby boomers", hippies, democrats, drugs, sex, etc, is ludicrous. I lived through the entire '50s and people did the same kind of sh*t then as the sixties--Just a different type of drugs and sex was more hidden.

So this is the kind of "advice" that Trump has been getting and will continue to receive. As a man who holds himself out as an expert and advisor on finance and economics, Bannon has no excuse to not know the real reasons for all the economic problems now, so I can only label this video as propaganda.

I would rather recommend a real documentary like "Freedom to Fascism" by Aaron Russo (free on YouTube) and also his interview by Alex Jones (also free on YouTube) wherein he reveals the end game told to him by the Rockefellers--a cashless society wherein every one is chipped. And we're almost there. All this political garbage that is currently being spewed about is just a distraction from what's really going on. 1984 is their end game.

I don't see anything that will stop this train wreck. Hold on tight, folks, and get prepared NOW!

[Bluegreen]

I feel a tremendous sense of relief

[ThePythonicCow]

I don't see anything that will stop this train wreck.
Neither do I :).

Though I expect that a train wreck of this magnitude may actually take several years to play out, and the uber-elite are no doubt creating, anticipating and facilitating this wreck, with the expectation, yet again, of picking up the pieces and rebuilding, in their own image.

They build it, and tear it down. Debt-money is one of their favorite tools for this, by expanding and contracting debt, and through control of the governments, courts, military, tax agencies, police and financial institutions that administer this system, on individuals, corporations, and governments, from a local to a global scale.

[turiya]

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Steve Bannon Interviewed:
"It's About Americans
Not Getting F—ed Over" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-18/steve-bannon-interviewed-issue-now-about-americans-looking-not-get-f%E2%80%94ed-over)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Nov 18, 2016 11:52 PM

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Moments ago, the Hollywood Reporter released the much anticipated Michael Wolff interview with Steve Bannon, the controversial president-elect's chief strategist. As a preface, Wolff reveals that Bannon - unlike virtually anyone else in the "credible" media - predicted exactly how things would play out:

In late summer when I went up to see Steve Bannon, recently named CEO of the Donald Trump presidential campaign, in his office at Trump Tower in New York, he outlined a preposterous-sounding scenario. Trump, he said, would do surprisingly well among women, Hispanics and African-Americans, in addition to working men, and hence take Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan — and therefore the election. On Nov. 15, when I went back to Trump Tower, Bannon, promoted by the president-elect to chief strategist for the incoming administration, and by the media as the official symbol of all things hateful and virulent about the coming Trump presidency, said, as matter-of-factly as when he first sketched it out for me, “I told you so.”

Perhaps Trump naming Bannon "chief strategist" is not a bad idea.

Below we picked a few of the most notable excerpts from the interview, starting with Wolff's description of what he saw on the day he visited Trump. He writes "the New York Times, in a widely circulated article (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/16/us/politics/trump-transition.html?_r=0), will describe this day at Trump Tower as a scene of “disarray” for the transition team." It appears the NYT was being a source of fake news again:

"In fact, it’s all hands on: Mike Pence, the vice president-elect and transition chief, and Reince Priebus, the new chief of staff, shuttling between full conference rooms; Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law and by many accounts his closest advisor, conferring in the halls; Sen. Jeff Sessions in and out of meetings on the transition team floor; Rudy Giuliani upstairs with Trump (overheard: “Is the boss meeting-meeting with Rudy or just shooting the ****?”), and Bannon with a long line of men and women outside his corner office. If this is disarray, it’s a peculiarly focused and organized kind."

Why did Wolff pick Bannon as the subject of his interview: simple - he is the brains of the operations, the man whose job is to make the Trump regime "intellectually and historically coherent."

The focus on Bannon, if not necessarily the description, is right. He’s the man with the idea. If Trumpism is to represent something intellectually and historically coherent, it’s Bannon’s job to make it so. In this, he could not be a less reassuring or more confusing figure for liberals — fiercely intelligent and yet reflexively drawn to the inverse of every liberal assumption and shibboleth. A working class kid, he enlists in the navy after high school, gets a degree from Virginia Tech, then Georgetown, then Harvard Business School. Then it’s Goldman Sachs, then he’s a dealmaker and entrepreneur in Hollywood — where, in an unlikely and very lucky deal match-up, he gets a lucrative piece of Seinfeld royalties, ensuring his own small fortune — then into the otherworld of the right wing conspiracy and conservative media. (He partners with David Bossie, a congressional investigator of President Clinton, who later spearheaded the Citizens United lawsuit that effectively removed the cap on campaign spending, and who now, as the deputy campaign manager, is in the office next to Bannon’s.) And then to the Breitbart News Network, which with digital acumen and a mind-meld with the anger and the passion of the new alt-right (a liberal designation Bannon derides) he pushes to the inner circle of conservative media from Breitbart's base on the west side of liberal Los Angeles.

Incidentally, Bannon appears to be a fan of "darkness":

“Darkness is good,” says Bannon, who amid the suits surrounding him at Trump Tower, looks like a graduate student in his T-shirt, open button-down and tatty blue blazer — albeit a 62-year-old graduate student. “Dick Cheney. Darth Vader. Satan. That’s power. It only helps us when they—“ I believe by “they” he means liberals and the media, already promoting calls for his ouster “—get it wrong. When they’re blind to who we are and what we’re doing.”

Bannon next discusses the "battle line" inside America's great divide.

He absolutely — mockingly — rejects the idea that this is a racial line. “I’m not a white nationalist, I’m a nationalist. I’m an economic nationalist,” he tells me. “The globalists gutted the American working class and created a middle class in Asia. The issue now is about Americans looking to not get f—ed over. If we deliver—” by "we" he means the Trump White House "—we’ll get 60 percent of the white vote, and 40 percent of the black and Hispanic vote and we’ll govern for 50 years. That’s what the Democrats missed, they were talking to these people with companies with a $9 billion market cap employing nine people. It’s not reality. They lost sight of what the world is about.”

Trump's strategist views himself as a simple symbol: the "fall of the establishment." He also slams the media: "The media bubble is the ultimate symbol of what’s wrong with this country....It’s just a circle of people talking to themselves who have no f—ing idea what’s going on. If The New York Times didn’t exist, CNN and MSNBC would be a test pattern." He's right.

Bannon represents, he not unreasonably believes, the fall of the establishment. The self-satisfied, in-bred and homogenous views of the establishment are both what he is against and what has provided the opening for the Trump revolution. “The media bubble is the ultimate symbol of what’s wrong with this country,” he continues. “It’s just a circle of people talking to themselves who have no f—ing idea what’s going on. If The New York Times didn’t exist, CNN and MSNBC would be a test pattern. The Huffington Post and everything else is predicated on The New York Times. It’s a closed circle of information from which Hillary Clinton got all her information — and her confidence. That was our opening.”

Bannon's vision: an "entirely new political movement", one which drives the conservatives crazy. As to how monetary policy will coexist with fiscal stimulus, Bannon has a simple explanation: he plans to "rebuild everything" courtesy of negative interest rates and cheap debt throughout the world. Those rates may not be negative for too long.

“Like [Andrew] Jackson’s populism, we’re going to build an entirely new political movement,” he says. “It’s everything related to jobs. The conservatives are going to go crazy. I’m the guy pushing a trillion-dollar infrastructure plan. With negative interest rates throughout the world, it’s the greatest opportunity to rebuild everything. Ship yards, iron works, get them all jacked up. We’re just going to throw it up against the wall and see if it sticks. It will be as exciting as the 1930s, greater than the Reagan revolution — conservatives, plus populists, in an economic nationalist movement.”

How Bannon describes Trump: "an ideal vessel"

It is less than obvious how Bannon, now the official strategic brains of the Trump operation, syncs with his boss, famously not too strategic. When Bannon took over the campaign from Paul Manafort, there were many in the Trump circle who had resigned themselves to the inevitability of the candidate listening to no one. But here too was a Bannon insight: When the campaign seemed most in free fall or disarray, it was perhaps most on target. While Clinton was largely absent from the campaign trail and concentrating on courting her donors, Trump — even after the leak of the grab-them-by-the-pussy audio — was speaking to ever-growing crowds of thirty-five or forty thousand. “He gets it, he gets it intuitively,” says Bannon, perhaps still surprised he has found such an ideal vessel. “You have probably the greatest orator since William Jennings Bryan, coupled with an economic populist message and two political parties that are so owned by the donors that they don’t speak to their audience. But he speaks in a non-political vernacular, he communicates with these people in a very visceral way. Nobody in the Democratic party listened to his speeches, so they had no idea he was delivering such a compelling and powerful economic message. He shows up 3.5 hours late in Michigan at 1 in the morning and has 35,000 people waiting in the cold. When they got [Clinton] off the donor circuit she went to Temple University and they drew 300 or 400 kids.”

Bannon on Murdoch: "Rupert is a globalist and never understood Trump"

At that moment, as we talk, there’s a knock on the door of Bannon's office, a temporary, impersonal, middle-level executive space with a hodgepodge of chairs for constant impromptu meetings. Sen. Ted Cruz, once the Republican firebrand, now quite a small and unassuming figure, has been waiting patiently for a chat and Bannon excuses himself for a short while. It is clear when we return to our conversation that it is not just the liberal establishment that Bannon feels he has triumphed over, but the conservative one too — not least of all Fox News and its owners, the Murdochs. “They got it more wrong than anybody,” he says. “Rupert is a globalist and never understood Trump. To him, Trump is a radical. Now they’ll go centrist and build the network around Megyn Kelly.” Bannon recounts, with no small irony, that when Breitbart attacked Kelly after her challenges to Trump in the initial Republican debate, Fox News chief Roger Ailes — whom Bannon describes as an important mentor, and who Kelly’s accusations of sexual harassment would help topple in July — called to defend her. Bannon says he warned Ailes that Kelly would be out to get him too.

Finally, Bannon on how he sees himself in the administration:

Bannon now becomes part of a two-headed White House political structure, with Reince Priebus — in and out of Bannon's office as we talk — as chief of staff, in charge of making the trains run on time, reporting to the president, and Bannon as chief strategist, in charge of vision, goals, narrative and plan of attack, reporting to the president too. Add to this the ambitions and whims of the president himself, and the novel circumstance of one who has never held elective office, the agenda of his highly influential family and the end runs of a party significant parts of which were opposed to him, and you have quite a complex court that Bannon will have to finesse to realize his reign of the working man and a trillion dollars in new spending.

“I am,” he says, with relish, “Thomas Cromwell in the court of the Tudors.”

Perhaps that was a Freudian slip: Cromwell's end under Henry VIII was not a happy one.

Read the full interview here (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-bannon-trump-tower-interview-trumps-strategist-plots-new-political-movement-948747).

SOURCE (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-18/steve-bannon-interviewed-issue-now-about-americans-looking-not-get-f%E2%80%94ed-over)

[TargeT]

turning the economic system back around to the 'honest dollar' method. Is it even doable any more?

Nationalize the fed.
That would kick the can down the road for a bit.. but a restructure has to happen.

[norman]

turning the economic system back around to the 'honest dollar' method. Is it even doable any more?

Nationalize the fed.
That would kick the can down the road for a bit.. but a restructure has to happen.

I agree. The challenge is finding out how to do it if the rest of the world won't cooperate. As things stand, America isn't tooled up to do much. Will the rest of the world sell them anything for whatever they offer as currency. The gold is gone. Is there a political pathway from from here to sovereign prosperity that the globalists can't cut off at the pass ? I hear 60% of the population is on some kind of welfare. I doubt the fema camps were actually built for them but you never know.

[TargeT]

I hear 60% of the population is on some kind of welfare. I doubt the fema camps were actually built for them but you never know.


The percentage of Americans now receiving a federally-funded “means-tested program” now stands at 35.4%. When you add pensions, unemployment, Social Security, and Medicare to the mix, the percentage of Americans relying on government for part or all of their subsistence is 49.5% of the American population.
http://ijr.com/2014/08/170299-percentage-americans-welfare-will-shock/

50% of the US population is a pretty crazy number, those people obviously can't or don't want to be independent of the government & that's a lot of people...

[turiya]

Video Title says what it is...


Kellyanne Conway details
Trump's Cabinet selection process
(Published on Nov 21, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uoak3mxJW8I_________________________

Bill Holter and Jim Sinclair
Interview Greg Hunter and Vice Versa
(Published on Nov 5, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9jw9FY7y-0

[turiya]

I don't see anything that will stop this train wreck.
Neither do I :).

Though I expect that a train wreck of this magnitude may actually take several years to play out, and the uber-elite are no doubt creating, anticipating and facilitating this wreck, with the expectation, yet again, of picking up the pieces and rebuilding, in their own image.

They build it, and tear it down. Debt-money is one of their favorite tools for this, by expanding and contracting debt, and through control of the governments, courts, military, tax agencies, police and financial institutions that administer this system, on individuals, corporations, and governments, from a local to a global scale.

Neither does Bill Holter....


Bill Holter Interview
(November 17th 2016)
(Uploaded 23-NOV 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tnxFtZ80X8__________________________

The Burning Platform (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/11/03/civil-war-ii-fourth-turning-intensifying-part-i/https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/11/03/civil-war-ii-fourth-turning-intensifying-part-i/)

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CIVIL WAR II – FOURTH TURNING INTENSIFYING
(PART I) (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/11/civil-war-ii-fourth-turning-intensifying-part-i.html)
Posted on November 4, 2016
by JimQ

“History offers even more sobering warnings: Armed confrontation usually occurs around the climax of Crisis. If there is confrontation, it is likely to lead to war. This could be any kind of war – class war, sectional war, war against global anarchists or terrorists, or superpower war. If there is war, it is likely to culminate in total war, fought until the losing side has been rendered nil – its will broken, territory taken, and leaders captured.” – The Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0767900464?tag=thebur01-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=0767900464&adid=0VTFPQQFCAV7FYWEMDZT&) – Strauss & Howe -1997


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As we enter the final stretch of this vitriolic, deplorable, venomous, propaganda saturated, deceitful, rigged presidential election spectacle, it becomes painfully obvious this Fourth Turning is careening toward bloodshed, bedlam, confrontation, and civil war. The linear fixated establishment, who fancy themselves intellectually superior to the irredemables, are too blinded by their sociopathic, increasingly audacious subversion of the Constitution, to grasp the level of rage and disillusionment of a white working class that has been screwed over for decades.

As the Wall Street shysters frantically accelerate their embezzlement of what remains of middle class wealth, with the Fed and the corporate media propagandists as their wing-men, the country devolves into a corporate fascist state. The disposition of the nation grows dark like the sky before an approaching deadly blizzard. As passions boil over and violence portends, this Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0767900464?tag=thebur01-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=0767900464&adid=0VTFPQQFCAV7FYWEMDZT&) hastens towards a bloody decade ahead with an uncertain climax.

If you think this is just hyperbole, you either haven’t studied history or your cognitive dissonance and normalcy bias prevent you from seeing the unavoidable societal altering clashes, which occur like clockwork on an eighty year cycle, when the portents are right in front of your eyes. Historian Arnold Toynbee’s great war cycle that arise every 80 years or so, aligns perfectly with the Fourth Turning generational theory. Great wars occur when the generation that doesn’t remember the last catastrophic war ascends to leadership of the country.

We are eight years into a Crisis period which won’t end until the mid-2020s. As this bitterly vicious presidential campaign accelerates towards a finale which will leave the country divided and irate, the hostile opposing forces will be seeking revenge, retribution, and retaliation no matter the outcome. There is no doubt the regeneracy is well under way.

“The next Fourth Turning is due to begin shortly after the new millennium, midway through the Oh-Oh decade. Around the year 2005, a sudden spark will catalyze a Crisis mood. Remnants of the old social order will disintegrate. Political and economic trust will implode. Real hardship will beset the land, with severe distress that could involve questions of class, race, nation and empire. The very survival of the nation will feel at stake. Sometime before the year 2025, America will pass through a great gate in history, commensurate with the American Revolution, Civil War, and twin emergencies of the Great Depression and World War II.” – Strauss & Howe – The Fourth Turning

It was five years ago I spent a couple fascinating hours with Neil Howe (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2011/12/09/a-couple-fascinating-hours-with-neil-howe/), co-author of the Fourth Turning, during the Occupy Wall Street protests. He thought the protests were all passion and no depth, engineered by anarchist Boomers. He was right. I thought OWS might be the start of the regeneracy, but it flamed out quickly. It was only a foreshadowing of what was to come. Whatever event or movement created the regeneracy, it would be driven by the toxic combination of debt, civic decay, and global disorder.

Neil was particularly worried about the Federal Reserve zero interest rate policy and how it was ruining our economic system, creating disincentives to saving and encouraging warped, debt driven speculation. And that was in 2011. The Fed keeping interest rates near zero on behalf of a corrupt establishment for the last eight years has been the primary factor in creating the anger, disillusionment and revolutionary spirit driving the regeneracy.

No critical thinking human being can deny this tumultuous presidential election and its equally turbulent primaries have been fueled by the dreadful self-serving response of the establishment to the 2008 Wall Street created financial collapse; the geopolitical anarchy created by U.S. interventionism in the Middle East; the civic decay created by a failing government educational system; rampant debt financed materialism enabled and encouraged by the financial/media complex; and racial division facilitated by the president and his social justice warrior brethren.

The rescue of Wall Street and destruction of Main Street by the Fed, Wall Street and the captured politicians of both parties in Washington D.C. has created the angry, acrimonious, throw the bums out mood boiling over in flyover America. The widening Grand Canyon gap in wealth between the haves and the have nots, produced by solutions from sociopaths in suits has reached the pitchfork and torch level.

The linear thinking ruling class has been in denial since this Crisis catalyzed in September 2008. Their looting, pillaging and ransacking campaign, designed to enrich and empower a small cadre of shadowy, powerful, wealthy men, had been successful for decades. When you control the currency and interest rates; rig the financial markets; buy the politicians; write the laws and regulations; own the corporate propaganda machines known as the mainstream media; operate a high tech surveillance state; create a dumbed down populace through government school indoctrination; and distract the masses with iGadgets, reality TV, hero worship, professional sports, social media, irrelevant cultural issues, and literally thousands of other modern day bread and circuses; you become arrogant and careless.

These sociopaths are so consumed with their ravenous fleecing of the middle class, waging wars for profit, and shredding the Constitution, they failed to recognize 2008 for the seismic earth shattering event that will change everything. The mood of the country shifted like tectonic plates beneath the nation. The mood continues to grow dimmer, as the peasants grow poorer and the modern day aristocracy (Wall Street bankers, corporate executives, corrupt politicians, shadowy billionaires) accumulate obscene ill-gotten wealth through their complete capture of the system. This perverted, degenerative, criminal degradation of our society is powerfully summed up by Jesse from Jesse’s Café Americain (https://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/):

“Not all sociopaths wield knives and knotted cords. Some wear suits, and are exceptionally intelligent and articulate, obsessively driven, and are able to use and undermine the law and the rules for their advantage, like weapons. It is never about the win, never about the money. It is about the kill, the expression of their hatred, about elevating themselves with the suffering of others. Bind, torture, kill. Not only with ropes and knives, but also with power and money, and the subversion of law. Lawlessness is their addiction, their will to power.

When societies become lax and complacent, these sociopaths can possess great political power through great amounts of unprincipled money. And over time they become almost anti-human, destroyers of all that is good, all that is life, all that offends their insatiable sickness with its goodness. They twist the public against itself, and turn a broad sweep of society into their killing grounds. This is the undeniable lesson of the last century. There are monsters, and they walk among us.”

Neil Howe has noted in previous articles the catalyst, climax and resolution of Fourth Turnings can be specifically dated. But the regeneracy is more of an era than a date. With only three previous American Fourth Turnings, I imagined the regeneracy to be a specific event where the American people, faced with growing peril and danger, put aside their differences and rallied around a strong leader to build something new. Boy was I wrong.

In retrospect, the American people were numbed by the Great Depression and the bloody initial battles of the Civil War. They just let FDR and Lincoln do whatever they needed to do. The regeneracy marks a growth in centralized authority and resolute governance at a time of great risk and urgency. I believe this era of regeneracy began at the outset of the presidential primaries early in 2016.

Based upon the reaction of the citizens in the last ten months, the dire problem facing the nation, perceived as the largest threat to our future, happens to be the Deep State establishment currently ruling the country. The captured mainstream media and grey beards running both political parties were completely stunned, horrified, and irate at the unprecedented success achieved by the two anti-establishment candidates, Trump and Sanders.

This election was supposed to follow the script as planned and coordinated by the establishment, with Hillary Clinton defeating Jeb Bush and continuing the corrupt status quo policies agreed to by the bought off leaders of both parties. They badly miscalculated the mood of the country and the whirlwind of change seeking to sweep away the stubborn remnants of a crooked, decrepit, putrid, existing social order. This collective middle finger to the establishment could only happen during a Fourth Turning.

This regeneracy is well under way and is poised to transform and replace the very foundation of this crumbling empire of debt, delusions, and denial. The unanswered question is what happens next. I posed that question to Neil Howe five years ago and he said the specific events of a Fourth Turning are unknowable, but the reaction to those events by the generational cohorts is consistent over time.

We are seeing the reaction of critical thinking Americans as they come to the realization the system is rigged against them. A revolutionary spirit is once again rising among the deplorables. I also asked Neil about the theory Fourth Turnings alternate between external conflicts and internal conflicts. He found the subject fascinating, but didn’t think there were enough data points to make a determination.

Based on the current path of this Fourth Turning, I’m now convinced of this alternating sequence between advancement cycles and atonement cycles. The advancement cycles can be seen as establishing, whereas atonement cycles are disestablishing. It is apparent each Fourth Turning alternates between an external struggle and an internal struggle. The American Revolution was a struggle against an external oppressor – Great Britain.

The Civil War was an internal struggle between the industrial North and the agrarian South. The Depression/World War II struggle was mainly against an external threat – Germany, Japan, and Italy. The American Revolution established our country. There was optimism and elation as a new republic, forged under an enlightened Constitution and led by judicious intelligent men, was born. It was clearly an advancement cycle.

The Civil War disestablished states’ rights, slavery, agrarian society and Constitutional rights. It was an atonement cycle for our actual and implicit sins. There was no glorious high. The resolution felt more like defeat, with the country exhausted, bitter and angry. The country had exhausted itself, spilling the blood of over one million men. The new High after an atonement cycle is like a cold miserable rainy dark Spring.

The Great Depression/World War II Fourth Turning established a new world order led by the United States. As the only major country left unscathed by the ravages of global war, the U.S. became the producer for the world, whose dollar was unquestioned as the currency of global trade. The new High was unleashed with fanfare and adulation. It was like a delightfully warm Spring, with flowers blooming and children frolicking.

All signs point toward this Fourth Turning being a life or death struggle between the ruling class of sociopathic bankers, corporate elites, and sleazy politicians versus the oppressed and infuriated middle class. The lying, deceit, rigging, deception, theft and other crimes perpetrated by the ruling elites will be atoned for. The heroic patriotic revelations from Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, and Bradley (Chelsea) Manning proving the government and politicians to be lying, corrupt, immoral, sociopathic traitors to the Constitution have undermined the last vestiges of trust in the system and the establishment. The alignment of generational dynamics will provoke the responses to events moving forward. We have been badly led. A silent coup by Deep State perpetrators has led to the complete capture of our economic, financial, judicial and political systems.

A vast swath of the populace has been lured into living beyond their means. The existing system is unsustainable. The Boomer generation does not want to yield on their perceived entitlements. The Millennial generation is saddled with un-payable debts, living in their parents’ basements, working the night shift at Ruby Tuesday. Generation X is trapped in the middle of this generational struggle. The huge economic imbalances, created by politicians buying votes and engineering wealth inequality to benefit the few, have built up over decades like flood waters behind a weakening levee. When the levee breaks the morally bankrupt criminal social order will be swept away in the raging torrent to follow.

Winter will eventually turn into Spring, but it might be a bitter, gloomy, austere Spring. Every Fourth Turning brings on forecasts of imminent doom, but that is also a trait of Prophet (Trump, Clinton) Generations. It’s how they feel about the prospects of their imminent die off; they expect the entire world to go with them. The 2008 financial crisis was horrific, scary and an eye opener for those who blindly believed what they were told by their establishment zoo keepers. The regeneracy has begun; trust in the system has further disintegrated; this presidential election has further deepened this distrust of the entrenched establishment; and the coming bust for stocks, bonds, and real estate will knock out the supports for the dwindling remaining trust in this crooked system.

“This might result in a Great Devaluation, a severe drop in the market price of most financial and real assets. This devaluation could be a short but horrific panic, a free-falling price in a market with no buyers. Or it could be a series of downward ratchets linked to political events that sequentially knock the supports out from under the residual popular trust in the system. As assets devalue, trust will further disintegrate, which will cause assets to devalue further, and so on.”

Eventually, all of America’s lesser problems will combine into one giant problem. The very survival of the society will feel at stake, as leaders lead and people follow. The emergent society may be something better, a nation that sustains its Framers’ visions with a robust new pride. Or it may be something unspeakably worse. The Fourth Turning will be a time of glory or ruin.” – Strauss & Howe – The Fourth Turning
The next ten or so years will be atonement for decades of bad choices, corrupt leadership, living beyond our means, waging wars of choice across the globe, believing blatant falsehoods, exhibiting willful ignorance, ignoring facts, and failing to uphold the Constitution. Don’t think you can escape the consequences of this Fourth Turning. It doesn’t matter whether you lived according to a moral code, avoided debt, worked hard, paid taxes, and generally lived an upstanding honorable life.

The death and destruction headed our way will engulf the innocent as well as the guilty. I’m reminded of the penultimate scene in Clint Eastwood’s dark, brooding, vengeful western Unforgiven (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000JLPMPS/ref=as_li_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=B000JLPMPS&adid=16XC938MXJ1F4BQNY1Q9) when Little Bill Daggett laments to “killer of women and children” William Munny that he doesn’t deserve to die this way. Munny responds, “deserves got nothin’ to do with it.” Then he pulls the trigger. This is the kind of future we will be dealing with, whether we like it or not.


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In Part Two (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/11/04/civil-war-ii-fourth-turning-intensifying-part-2/) of this article I will use recent polling data to assess where the most likely sparks will arise to start the civil war conflagration which will accelerate the crumbling of the American Empire. To reinforce the obvious, Fourth Turnings NEVER de-intensify. They end after the spilling of much blood, incomprehensible destruction and the total defeat of the vanquished.
SOURCE (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/11/03/civil-war-ii-fourth-turning-intensifying-part-i/)


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CIVIL WAR II – FOURTH TURNING INTENSIFYING
(PART 2) (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/11/04/civil-war-ii-fourth-turning-intensifying-part-2/)

In Part One (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/11/03/civil-war-ii-fourth-turning-intensifying-part-i/)of this article I laid out the case against the criminal establishment and how the regeneracy is being driven by the anti-establishment sentiment sweeping across the land. This atonement Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=83664162d444261ee9d4fe1a449ac127&creativeASIN=0767900464) will de-establish decade’s worth of delusional decisions. This election has destroyed the last vestiges of trust in this fraudulent system.


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This dysfunctional rigged presidential election reflects the tearing of the civic fabric at points of maximum susceptibility. As a country we have neglected, denied, or delayed necessary action on a plethora of vital issues threatening our long term viability as a nation. The deferral of difficult painful decisions has been a ploy of the ruling class, allowing them to further siphon the wealth of a dying empire, while maintaining control over the masses through laws, regulations, taxes, surveillance, intimidation, technology bread and circuses, and mainstream media propaganda.

This is a country truly divided, much along the lines of the first Civil War. The divisions aren’t just along political party lines, but race, education, geography, gender, age, class, religion and ability to think critically. The presidential polls (IBD) reveal many of these divisions clearly:

Race:
Whites – 52% Trump; 37% Clinton
Blacks/Hispanics – 14% Trump; 74% Clinton

Education::
High School/Some College – 54% Trump; 35% Clinton
College Degree or More – 37% Trump; 51% Clinton

Geography:
Urban – 31% Trump; 60% Clinton
Suburban – 43% Trump; 43% Clinton
Rural – 55% Trump; 35% Clinton
Gender:
Male – 50% Trump; 38% Clinton
Female – 39% Trump; 50% Clinton
Age:
Young – 37% Trump; 46% Clinton
Middle Aged – 47% Trump; 45% Clinton
Old – 48% Trump; 43% Clinton

Class:
Upper – 40% Trump; 52% Clinton
Middle – 44% Trump, 43% Clinton
Working – 50% Trump; 41% Clinton
Lower – 20% Trump; 57% Clinton
Religion:
Religious – 49% Trump; 41% Clinton
Non- Religious – 25% Trump; 63% Clinton
The narrative used against Trump is women won’t vote for him. The IBD data proves that unequivocally false. White women favor Trump 46% to 41% over Clinton. It’s the racial divide in this country which is borne out by the data above. Uneducated blacks and Hispanics living in urban ghettos with household income under $30,000 are overwhelmingly the primary constituent of Clinton and the Democratic Party.

They subsist on entitlements doled out to them by Democrat benefactors who have successfully enslaved them in welfare dependency, while keeping them uninformed through government run indoctrination centers. They continue to vote for their continued enslavement because they have lost their self-respect and hope for a better life. These are the people demanding more as compensation for their skin color, while being egged on by our first black president. The rural and suburban whites are content watching from afar as blacks murder each other in the Democrat controlled “gun free” urban ghettos, but if they try to bring their social justice demands into white gun owning America, **** will get ugly real fast.

Clinton has an odd coalition of supporters, as college educated, upper class, high income Americans support her over Trump. This is where her status quo establishment credentials are revealed. She is a big business, Wall Street bank, military industrial complex candidate for no change. Neo-cons, bankers, globalists, academics, and others sucking off the government teat, support any candidate who will sustain their rackets. The Wikileaks revelations and FBI disclosures exposed the sordid underbelly of liberal politicians and a fawning discredited media.

It seems conspiracy theorists were right all along. Politicians collude with the media, rig elections, lie to the public, smear their opponents, and break laws without remorse or shame. The American public’s view of career politicians and the smarmy media talking heads is now at an all-time low. The regeneracy is being driven by this warranted mistrust for all things establishment.

Next week we will know whether a regime change has taken place. A Trump presidency would surely mark a drastic transformation from the existing decrepit social order. But the Deep State is not going to relinquish their power, wealth and control without a fight to the finish. They will activate all of their remaining allies on Wall Street, in the media, running government bureaucracies, and running the military industrial complex to stonewall and defeat Trump’s agenda. If that fails, they will attempt to assassinate him.

A Clinton win would aggravate the building societal pressures, as the Trump supporters and most of the young Sanders supporters would refuse to recognize her as their president. She would assume power while under investigation by the FBI and Congress. The poisoned atmosphere in Washington D.C. would lead to a Constitutional crisis. Would her sociopathic nature lead her to start a war with Russia to distract attention from her criminality? The election of either candidate is likely to trigger events leading to Civil War II.

“This new regime will enthrone itself for the duration of the Crisis. Regardless of its ideology, that new leadership will assert public authority and demand private sacrifice. Regardless of its ideology, that new leadership will assert public authority and demand private sacrifice. Where leaders had once been inclined to alleviate societal pressures, they will now aggravate them to command the nation’s attention. The regeneracy will be solidly under way.” – The Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0767900464?tag=thebur01-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=0767900464&adid=0VTFPQQFCAV7FYWEMDZT&)– Strauss & Howe

No matter who wins the election, they will not have anything approaching a mandate. There are 219 million eligible voters in the U.S. Only 125 million or so will actually vote on November 8. The winner will likely chalk up about 58 million votes. Therefore, almost 75% of eligible voters in the country will not have voted for the next president. The country is as fractured as it was in 1860. The polling data reveals the major fractures.

The upper class is perfectly fine with things as they are because they own most of the financial assets, work directly or indirectly for the Deep State, or depend upon the government and/or Wall Street for their bloated salaries and bonuses. If you’re winning the class war, why would you want to change anything? It’s hard not to win when the game is rigged in your favor by your fellow .1% cronies. As Buffett noted, it is a class war and his class is winning. The lower classes are too ignorant and dependent upon the state for their survival to seek any change – other than protesting or rioting for more free ****.

It’s the demoralized, disillusioned, angry working middle class who have been pillaged by the ruling class through taxes, outsourcing their jobs, and Federal Reserve created inflation. With real median household income languishing at 1989 levels, it’s those in the middle who have lost the most. The 0% interest rates have punished senior citizens and middle class savers, while $3 trillion of QE benefited financial industry millionaires. The next financial collapse, which is baked into the cake, initiated by the policies designed to benefit the .1%, will push class warfare into the streets.

The revelation in the polling data which is likely to drive the next chapter of this Crisis is the huge disparity in voting preference between white, married, rural, religious households and the urban, black, fatherless households, along with the white single non-religious households. The Black Lives Matter movement represents the first cohort, while the social justice warriors represent the second cohort.

It was white middle aged married couples with children who were the backbone of this country from its founding until the 1970s. The husband went to work at the factory or office, the wife raised the children, and they went to church as a family on Sundays to give thanks for their blessings. They worked hard, helped their neighbors, volunteered, saved for a rainy day, disliked debt, required little if anything from the government, and lived peaceful moral lives. Until the 1960’s most black families lived similar existences.

The traditional family unit has been under assault for decades by liberals. The media bombardment about personal fulfillment, egocentric glorification, materialism, and status has been aimed at undermining the family, keeping the masses in debt, and making more people dependent upon the state. The welfare state, initiated in the 1960s, has led to the ghettofication and enslavement of blacks.

The warped welfare system encourages fatherless homes, dependency rather than self-reliance, loss of self respect, and learned ignorance. The traditional family unit is scorned and ridiculed, despite centuries of proof it is the best method for economic advancement and cultural stability. This continued attack from liberal politicians, soulless corporations, elitist academics, and depraved media has pushed the white working middle class to the maximum limit of their tolerance.

With the Soros backed Black Lives Matter terrorist organization creating havoc across America and spurring black men to slaughter police officers, they have pushed their Obama inspired reparations agenda too far. If they venture far from their Democrat created and run urban ghettos into white rural America they would encounter legal gun owners who can shoot straight.

The race war would be over quickly with no doubt regarding the winners. Conservative and moderate whites are sick and tired of the liberal agenda of black victimhood. Their response to the black community is: stop having 75% of your children out of wedlock, open a book, get educated, and get a job. Life is hard. Get used to it. No one is owed anything.

Whites are also tired of the left wing politically correct phraseology which changes an illegal immigrant into an undocumented immigrant. If you came here illegally, you broke the law, and you’re a criminal. Deportation is the consequence of your crime. Opening our borders to an influx of illegal South American immigrants, potential Syrian terrorists, and others who don’t believe in our values is a recipe for disaster.

They don’t learn our language, integrate into our communities, and increase the stress on our already fraying social safety net. When you already have $200 trillion of unfunded welfare obligations, why would you willingly add to that unpayable debt? Conservative whites believe in living within our means, the rule of law, and the Constitution.

The other flashpoint likely to ignite is the pushback against the belligerent social justice warrior class. White working class families watch as delicate academic sensibilities are triggered by the use of words they don’t like. Hate speech becomes any speech liberals disagree with. Watching spineless university administrators cower at the approach of vitriolic screeching social justice bullies is met with disgust and bemusement by white normal Americans.

Bending over backwards to meet the demands of degenerates, freaks, feminazis and psychopaths for new rights is seen as repugnant by average working class Americans. Their perverted agenda doesn’t matter to people trying to raise kids and pay their bills. Average Americans are tired of this ****. The pushback will be sudden and violent, when it comes.

It is clearly apparent to me this Fourth Turning’s (https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=83664162d444261ee9d4fe1a449ac127&creativeASIN=0767900464) primary driving force will be the domestic conflict between the Deep State establishment, the deplorables, and irreconcilable factions within the country. To linear thinkers, self-proclaimed progressives, corrupt politicians, subservient government workers, myopic media and those reliant upon the government for their sustenance, the thought of civil war in the United States is inconceivable.

Civil disorder would likely occur after a financial collapse of epic proportions. With stocks, bonds, and real estate at bubble proportions, interest rates already at zero, the country already in recession, inflation rising, deficits poised to breach $1 trillion per year over the next decade, Obamacare imploding, and real incomes stagnant, the coming economic implosion will make 2008 look like a walk in the park.

Once a chaotic financial collapse gets underway, it will be near impossible to stem the tide. Think back to the chaotic days of September 2008. Our $60 trillion of total credit market debt won’t matter until it matters. The cascade of bad debts will evaporate the remaining trust in our financial system.

Whether by accident or due to cyber-attack, a breakdown in our electronic based economic system in which store shelves go empty, fuel becomes scarce, and the electronic transfer of welfare benefits ceases, would create mass chaos in the streets. The 300 million guns in this country would get some use. Revenge, retribution and settling scores would be the order of the day.

With our just in time supply chain, a grid failure or breakdown of electronic ordering, payment and communication would bring the nation to its knees within one week. Millions would perish within a few weeks. Our civilized society would become uncivilized overnight. The downside of a society that stresses individualism over community would be borne out.

Cooperation, teamwork and shared sacrifice would be required to survive. The government would attempt to utilize the military and national guard to maintain order. A large portion of the country would rightfully blame the government and the corrupt establishment for causing the collapse. With their families also starving and no means of getting paid, will police, national guardsmen and the military continue obeying the orders of government leaders who caused the collapse?

Either due to the financial collapse or more overreach by the Federal government, the possibility of secession is real. It’s been attempted before and the conflict was bloody and earth shattering. There really are two Americas. The east and west coasts are dominated by the liberal elites who look down their noses upon the flyover country of ignorant deplorables. The .1% mostly resides in gated enclaves, penthouse suites, and luxury beachfront mansions.

They show nothing but contempt and disdain for the average American, living in Middle America or the South. The feeling is mutual amongst the working class towards the liberal elites who rule the country. Most of the 300 million guns are concentrated in the Midwest and South. With this amount of firepower and millions of Americans with nothing left to lose, those attempting to retain power will be at a distinct disadvantage. I believe armed vigilantes will hunt down those responsible for the destruction of the American economy and invoke their own justice.

As trust in government and institutions wanes and economic hardship deepens, the issue of states’ rights is likely to gain traction amongst a large swath of the critical thinking citizenry. The animosity between factions in this country is at historic levels. Large swaths of the country feel no kinship to the elitists on the coasts.

Civil war, secession, and the nation breaking into sectional regions of common benefits are unlikely to occur until the existing social order collapses under the weight of un-payable obligations. That time is approaching rapidly. The existing social order will be replaced by something new, but not necessarily better. That will depend on the choices we make and the leaders we follow.

“The risk of catastrophe will be very high. The nation could erupt into insurrection or civil violence, crack up geographically, or succumb to authoritarian rule. If there is a war, it is likely to be one of maximum risk and effort – in other words, a total war. Every Fourth Turning has registered an upward ratchet in the technology of destruction, and in mankind’s willingness to use it.” – Strauss & Howe – The Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=83664162d444261ee9d4fe1a449ac127&creativeASIN=0767900464)

No matter who wins the election next week, turmoil and trouble will befall our crumbling empire of debt. The three drivers of this Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=83664162d444261ee9d4fe1a449ac127&creativeASIN=0767900464) – debt, civic decay, global disorder – will continue to provide the impetus for change, conflict and the sweeping away of the morally bankrupt establishment. The empire builders planted the seeds of their own destruction. Their arrogance and hubris led them to abscond with too much, promise far more goodies than they could possibly deliver, execute military overreach – bankrupting the country and creating enemies across the globe.

The zombie economy is moribund, the productive people have been pillaged, and the bread and circus act is running on fumes. The American welfare/warfare state is crumbling. The ruling elite are desperate. They don’t want their Ponzi scheme to end, but they always fail. It’s a confidence game, and the game is over. The economic crisis is foreseeable to anyone with their eyes open. This empire will crumble and fall, just as others before throughout history.


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Darkness has descended upon our land. Storm clouds gather on the horizon. All generations have played a part in the catastrophe that lies before us. This is what happens during Fourth Turnings (https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=83664162d444261ee9d4fe1a449ac127&creativeASIN=0767900464). Everyone in our crumbling empire will need to atone for its sins, whether they deserve to or not. Life isn’t fair.

Each individual needs to get their **** together now. Each generation’s rendezvous with destiny awaits. There are no guarantees. The myth of American Exceptionalism will not protect us from the choices we’ve made. We are not the shining city on the hill. God will not shield us from the consequences of our actions. The fall of the American empire will be painful, but it doesn’t have to be fatal. Our choices will matter.


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“But Empire building also bears the seeds of its own destruction. The closer a state comes to the ultimate goal of world domination and one-world government, the less reason is there to maintain its internal liberalism and do instead what all states are inclined to do anyway, i.e., to crack down and increase their exploitation of whatever productive people are still left.

Consequently, with no additional tributaries available and domestic productivity stagnating or falling, the Empire’s internal policies of bread and circuses can no longer be maintained. Economic crisis hits, and an impending economic meltdown will stimulate decentralizing tendencies, separatist and secessionist movements, and lead to the break-up of Empire. We have seen this happen with Great Britain, and we are seeing it now, with the US and its Empire apparently on its last leg.” – Hans-Hermann Hoppe (https://www.amazon.com/Democracy-God-That-Failed-Perspectives/dp/0765808684/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=38f8c40a5c0efd3044022670a12b5cd8&creativeASIN=0765808684)

SOURCE (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/11/04/civil-war-ii-fourth-turning-intensifying-part-2/)



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[ThePythonicCow]

Nationalize the fed.
I am predicting that that is (part of) what's going to happen.

The "vaunted independence" of the Federal Reserve (Fed) has been a cover for the real situation:


The Fed has been serving as both (1) the National Bank of the US, and as (2) a key part of the current US Dollar denominated global monetary system. When the world monetary system needed many trillions of dollars of additional liquidity to avoid collapsing, back in 2008, it was the Fed that "lent" this new money into existence.

In the near future, that global role will become SDR denominated, and move to the BIS, IMF, ... structure. The Fed will become just another national bank, working with a new currency, the US Treasury Dollar.That SDR complex, rather like the Euro complex, will prove to be unstable, because, like the Euro, national borrowing will be denominated in a currency (the SDR) that the nations cannot themselves create (their national central banks cannot lend into existence.)

Within a decade or two, the SDR complex will fail, with more Sturm und Drang.

This is how "we do" debt jubilees in modern times ... economic, financial and monetary collapses and depressions, which last long enough to wipe out most expectations of receiving any returns on money invested, lent, or promised.

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As things stand, America isn't tooled up to do much. Will the rest of the world sell them anything for whatever they offer as currency.
Exactly.

Therefore we Americans shall have less.

[Bob]

turning the economic system back around to the 'honest dollar' method. Is it even doable any more?

Nationalize the fed.
That would kick the can down the road for a bit.. but a restructure has to happen.

Two other major nationalizations should happen too, healthcare(drugs/services), and energy.

[Eram]

turning the economic system back around to the 'honest dollar' method. Is it even doable any more?

Nationalize the fed.
That would kick the can down the road for a bit.. but a restructure has to happen.

Two other major nationalizations should happen too, healthcare(drugs/services), and energy.

What about postal services and public transport?

[araucaria]

What is going on on this forum is not about the messenger so much as the message. The alternative media have been clamouring to get out the message that our current leadership is, to put it as mildly as possible, not working for the best interests of the greatest number; or to put it a little more bluntly, corruption is rife in high places. When someone comes along with a megaphone to get people out voting on that specific issue, then it would be totally inconsistent not to welcome the broadcast of that message, possibly beyond a tipping point.

The fact that the messenger is Trump, with all that that entails, is somewhat secondary. If he does nothing else than change the baseline of our perception of government, then that will have been a huge step forward. A JFK-type scenario is no longer possible with public awareness as sophisticated as it is now, compared with 1963 – which is not to say that things are going to be easy.

The basic message is the same as Brexit. The Brexit referendum was formulated to ask a simple question, instead of the usual choice between candidates A and B. The question was, ‘In a democracy such as ours, who is to be sovereign?’ The answer was overwhelmingly ‘We the people’, not as a matter of opinion or choice, but as a simple matter of factual knowledge: it was the correct answer. Anyone who asks that question will get that answer; it just so happens that this time around, it was a right-leaning political outsider. It could equally well have been a left-leaning fulltime politician. Here in France, in 1978, we very nearly got a Communist/Socialist coalition government. Looking back, the Communist party leader Georges Marchais, speaking for the workers’ party, was saying very much the same things about the elites in power through banking, and having the same sort of trouble getting his message past the media (see the video below, in French I'm afraid). A major plank of his platform was of course nationalizations (I see the subject is getting an airing on this thread). He was also accused of being in league with Moscow, a natural thing to do in the days when ‘Eurocommunism’ was a new concept. But in those days ‘Moscow’ meant the Soviet gerontocracy, who were of course Communist in name only: as afraid of people power as the West was/is, and they actually pulled the plug on the whole venture. So in actual fact, far from being in league with Moscow, the Eurocommunist adventure was scuppered by the Kremlin before it ever got off the ground.
F-tXQLbovHA

What we are seeing in the US today is a kind of reversal of that scenario. Although at the other end of the political spectrum, Trump has also been accused of being in league with Moscow, which is only understandable by remembering that Putin is not Brejnev, if only because he enjoys massive popular support. See here (http://thefederalist.com/2016/04/13/why-vladimir-putins-people-love-him/). It would seem, at least in connection with the Wikileaks business, that Putin was no more enabling Trump than Brejnev was enabling Marchais. We see the tangle that we get into when we use labels like Communist or populist. The former term was utterly debased by the Soviet elite, while the latter is a derogatory description to debunk anyone with a grassroots base. The dictionary definition of a populist is simply someone who appeals to ordinary people. It is automatically pejorative only if you consider that this can be achieved solely by appealing to their baser instincts – fear, racism etc. That is an elitist view; the non-elitist view of populism involves appealing to their intelligence by placing oneself not above the people but as one with them. The people collectively become more intelligent when intelligent people identify with them, and dumber when dumbed down by separatist elites.

Hence, while we have to recognize and beware of populism in the negative sense, populism in the ameliorative sense, appealing to ordinary people’s nobler instincts, is the basis for the otherwise surprising offer from Bernie Sanders to work with Donald Trump on the common part of their agendas aimed at helping ordinary people. This unlikely possible alliance needs more publicity than it seems to be getting because it leads to a questioning of the continued suitability of most of our presidential regimes, or are they throwbacks to earlier monarchical and oligarchical systems that are now outdated, hiding behind a semblance of democratic debate. World government is still a distant goal when national government is not yet realized but hijacked by a few individuals. We need to learn to overcome false dichotomies of e.g. left and right by forcing say Trump and Sanders into an effective and fruitful coalition. We have not seen many of those to date, and it would be a major milestone if that could be achieved. The oppositional style of government practised by most western democracies pits half of the population against the other half; applying that principle to two married individuals will generally end in divorce. Cooperation is the only way forward. A Trump and Sanders coalition would not of course please everybody all the time, but if it could be made to work at all, it could bring better times to a great many Americans and set a fine example to the rest of the world.

[TargeT]

turning the economic system back around to the 'honest dollar' method. Is it even doable any more?

Nationalize the fed.
That would kick the can down the road for a bit.. but a restructure has to happen.

Two other major nationalizations should happen too, healthcare(drugs/services), and energy.

Well here's where the government worker / Libertarian in me disagrees.

I would do this: Patent law when applied to any thing medical related would be drastically changed, with sole ownership of an idea reduced to 5 years with a 10 year tax credit following the first 5 years (this credit would be based on the total sales of those first five years), public domain follows that.

Deregulate all medical industries, take a portion of the former regulation budget and create a fraud / patient-rights watchdog group that has public oversight.

Allow any insurance company to sell insurance anywhere.

Change ACA to require only "catastrophe" insurance, not traditional "medical" insurance (no, you shouldn't be using medical insurance to go to the doctor for a sore throat or cold...).

But then I would De-regulate most things, when ever the government is involved in something it seems to turn to ****; the less involvement the better.

[ThePythonicCow]

Neither does Bill Holter....

Bill Holter Interview
(November 17th 2016)
(Uploaded 23-NOV 2016)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tnxFtZ80X8

Bill Holter makes an important point in the latter part of this interview. Our economy, that delivers food to the grocery store shelves and petro to the gas station pumps, that funds pay checks, and food stamps, runs on credit.

Even your dang bank deposit is credit - you're lending money to a bank that may fail, leaving you no possible way to get your money back.

The banksters have been causing collapses for generations, by pulling back credit, calling in existing loans and not lending new money. That slows the economy, hard. That's what they do, pump and dump, first extend easy credit then and then quit lending and start repossessing, foreclosing, and bankrupting. The banks do this to individuals, corporations and governments. They do this to the mightiest and the lowest.

When the bankers stop lending this time, given the vast overreach and entanglement of outstanding credit, this is going to be the Mother of All Crashes.

The biggest problem with our "just in time" distribution system is not just that the physical supply chain is long and fragile, but also that the credit based funding of every stage of that supply chain can all be choked off at once, by a wide spread retraction of lending by the banks ... and they will do that ... like the scorpion and the frog (http://www.aesopfables.com/cgi/aesop1.cgi?4&TheScorpionandtheFrog) ... that's what banks do.

The store shelves will empty soon, and you'll be taking your life in your hands, especially in inner cities, if you venture out to look for food or gas or anything else.

If you're not already living in a small village or a rural area, then be prepared to "get out of Dodge, and head for the hills", or else be prepared to "hole up" for weeks or months at a time and hope your home is not one of the ones that gets overrun or burnt down.

It's likely to get ugly in some places. Not in every place, even though the television news will make it look bad, really bad, everywhere, but in some places.

I agree with Holt that the demolition likely commences sometime on or shortly before Trump takes office, late January 2017. But this demolition will be a multi-year, perhaps decade or two long, project. The explosives and detonation cords are in place ... in awesome quantity.

[norman]

I've been assuming they've only done the post 2008 'quantitative easing' because they were behind schedule and still had not quite got all their ducks in a row.

At this point, I'm scratching my head trying to find any reason at all why they would bother to keep it going from here on.

I suppose one thing might have to do with all their war posturing recently. They must have been trying to set the "charges" in a specific arrangement so it would fall away from them instead of on top of them.

[ThePythonicCow]

This is how "we do" debt jubilees in modern times ... economic, financial and monetary collapses and depressions, which last long enough to wipe out most expectations of receiving any returns on money invested, lent, or promised.
Then, after the old debtors have had all their assets stripped bare in foreclosure, bankruptcy and national austerity programs, the "new lender" in town gets to decide who will get new loans, for what purposes.

[ThePythonicCow]

In the near future, that global role will become SDR denominated, and move to the BIS, IMF, ... structure. The Fed will become just another national bank, working with a new currency, the US Treasury Dollar.[/INDENT][/INDENT]That SDR complex, rather like the Euro complex, will prove to be unstable, because, like the Euro, national borrowing will be denominated in a currency (the SDR) that the nations cannot themselves create (their national central banks cannot lend into existence.)

Within a decade or two, the SDR complex will fail, with more Sturm und Drang.

This is how "we do" debt jubilees in modern times ... economic, financial and monetary collapses and depressions, which last long enough to wipe out most expectations of receiving any returns on money invested, lent, or promised.


I agree with Holt that the demolition likely commences sometime on or shortly before Trump takes office, late January 2017. But this demolition will be a multi-year, perhaps decade or two long, project. The explosives and detonation cords are in place ... in awesome quantity.


I suppose one thing might have to do with all their war posturing recently. They must have been trying to set the "charges" in a specific arrangement so it would fall away from them instead of on top of them.

Darryl Robert Schoon, who has his own take on things and who has shown great insight into what's happening for a long time now, has a different outlook.

First, before I quote Schoon, let me cast doubts on my own forecasts, involving an interim SDR basket of major national currencies (Dollar, Pound, Yen, Euro and Yuan), leading to a new single, dominant world currency in a decade or two.

Ask yourself this:
How can a world currency, even an interim one, be built on a basket of currencies, if every one of them "blows up"?

The American Empire and its Petro-Narco-Dollar that is the world's current reserve currency is heading towards self-destruction.
The Euro and the EU are also heading for self-destruction.
The Chinese economy depends on exports to the US and Europe and has massive internal contradictions.
The Japanese economy and finances have been on life support for decades, dependent on the Yen carry trade and exports to the US and Europe.
The UK, outside of the financial center in the City, is too weak to carry the world on its back.

Not even the Masters of Alchemy can make gold out that toxic brew. (*)

Or, as Schoon says here (http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1479827640.php):

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But, in 2016, central bankers are far weaker due to their costly and long-running efforts to rescue their credit and debt ponzi-scheme from deflation’s growing sinkhole of low demand and even lower growth; and today’s rising interest rates threatens the foundation of their fraudulent fiefdom as nothing else does.

The world’s central banks not only now own record amounts of government debt, the value of that debt—if marked-to-market—is significantly lower than nominally priced; and, if interest rates rise, central bank balance sheets could be wiped out resulting in the bankruptcy of central banks themselves

In 2016, rising interest rates caused January’s multi-trillion dollar selloff in global stock markets as well as November’s trillion-dollar rout in bond markets. The prediction of even higher interest rates next year means even more significant losses in financial markets in 2017.

The bankers’ three hundred year-old ponzi-scheme of credit and debt is ending. We are now in capitalism’s third stage, what Hyman Minsky called the ponzi-stage, where borrowers pay what they owe only by borrowing more, e.g. the US Treasury bond market.

There is no fourth stage. The battle between capital and free markets is almost over; and when the bondfire in the bond markets has finally run its course, gold (and silver) will be the victor.

Buy gold, buy silver, have faith.
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(*) P.S. -- And this is how the 21st century becomes the Chinese Century. After the Dollar has failed, then after the patchwork replacement SDR basket has failed because all the currencies in the basket failed (even the Chinese Yuan!) ... then monetary power returns to whomever has the world's greatest stash of gold.

If you're young enough, or talented enough, to learn another foreign language, you might want to consider learning Chinese.

[turiya]

Another important point that Bill Holter makes in the above interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tnxFtZ80X8)... and that it is very fortunate that Trump was elected, as he is very much wanting to re-establish the 'Rule of Law' in this country. An enforcement of the Rule of Law will be very much needed with what he echoes in harmony with Steve Bannon's The Fourth Turning pronouncement...


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The Burning Platform (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/11/03/civil-war-ii-fourth-turning-intensifying-part-i/https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/11/03/civil-war-ii-fourth-turning-intensifying-part-i/)

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GREY CHAMPION
ASSUMES COMMAND (PART ONE) (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/11/19/grey-champion-assumes-command-part-one/)
Posted on November 19, 2016
by JimQ
At each of these great gates of history, eighty to a hundred years apart, a similar generational drama unfolded. Four archetypes, aligned in the same order – elder Prophet, midlife Nomad, young adult Hero, child Artist – together produced the most enduring legends in our history. Each time the Grey Champion appeared marked the arrival of a moment of “darkness, and adversity, and peril,” the climax of the Fourth Turning of the saeculum. – The Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0767900464?tag=thebur01-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=0767900464&adid=0VTFPQQFCAV7FYWEMDZT&) – Strauss & Howe


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In September 2015 I wrote a five part article called Fourth Turning: Crisis of Trust (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/09/14/fourth-turning-crisis-of-trust-part-2/). In Part 2 of that article I pondered who might emerge as the Grey Champion, leading the country during the second half of this Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=12f27700a4b1be5f7abb0252bb808542&creativeASIN=0767900464) Crisis. I had the above pictures of Franklin, Lincoln, and FDR, along with a flaming question mark. The question has been answered. Donald J. Trump is the Grey Champion.

When I wrote that article, only one GOP debate had taken place. There were eleven more to go. Trump was viewed by the establishment as a joke, ridiculed by the propaganda media, and disdained by the GOP and Democrats. I was still skeptical of his seriousness and desire to go the distance, but I attempted to view his candidacy through the lens of the Fourth Turning. I was convinced the mood of the country turning against the establishment could lead to his elevation to the presidency. I was definitely in the minority at the time:

Until three months ago the 2016 presidential election was in control of the establishment. The Party was putting forth their chosen crony capitalist figureheads – Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton. They are hand-picked known controllable entities who will not upset the existing corrupt system. They are equally acceptable to Goldman Sachs, the Federal Reserve, the military industrial complex, the sickcare industry, mega-corporate America, the moneyed interests, and the never changing government apparatchiks. The one party system is designed to give the appearance of choice, while in reality there is no difference between the policies of the two heads of one party and their candidate products. But now Donald Trump has stormed onto the scene from the reality TV world to tell the establishment – You’re Fired!!!

The linear thinking supporters of the status quo are flabbergasted and outraged by Trump’s popularity. The ruling classes never anticipate the mood shift of the peasants as they look down on the masses from their gated estates and penthouse suites. The country is looking for someone who can tear down the entire fetid, corrupt, rotting structure. The onset of phase two of this Crisis in 2016 will produce a populace more desperate, less trusting of the establishment and likely to turn towards someone like Trump, in despair. – Fourth Turning – Crisis of Trust (Part Two) (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/09/14/fourth-turning-crisis-of-trust-part-2/)

Strauss and Howe wrote their prophetic tome two decades ago. Their prognostications have played out exactly as they prophesied. They did not know which events or which people would catalyze this Fourth Turning. But they knew the mood change in the country would be driven by the predictable generational alignment which occurs every eighty years. Our regeneracy is now solidly under way

.“Soon after the catalyst, a national election will produce a sweeping political realignment, as one faction or coalition capitalizes on a new public demand for decisive action. Republicans, Democrats, or perhaps a new party will decisively win the long partisan tug of war. This new regime will enthrone itself for the duration of the Crisis. Regardless of its ideology, that new leadership will assert public authority and demand private sacrifice. Where leaders had once been inclined to alleviate societal pressures, they will now aggravate them to command the nation’s attention. The regeneracy will be solidly under way.” – Strauss & Howe – The Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0767900464?tag=thebur01-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=0767900464&adid=0VTFPQQFCAV7FYWEMDZT&)

Linear thinking pundits, politicians, businessmen, bankers, bureaucrats, and citizens fail to grasp the cyclical nature of history. They think themselves progressives, falsely believing humanity and history move forward in a straight line. Nothing could be further from the truth. This is why they throw hissy fits when their predictions and beliefs are thrown into disarray by events and mood changes in the country.

The linear thinking establishment is losing their proverbial minds over Trump’s landslide electoral victory, they never saw coming. They’re flabbergasted, angry, and living in denial as history tracks a path it travels every eighty years or so. As the Greatest Generation departs this earth, there are few left who lived through the last Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=12f27700a4b1be5f7abb0252bb808542&creativeASIN=0767900464). That’s why the living generations are always surprised when another predictable crisis arrives. We never seem to learn the lessons of history.

Perpetual progress is a myth. Average American households haven’t seen economic progress in decades. Education continues to deteriorate, as the young become progressively dumber. Well-paying goods producing jobs have been shipped overseas, replaced by low paying, no benefits service jobs. Government is corrupt, inept, and discredited. Our culture is degraded, decadent, depraved, and despoiled.

Progress has devolved into regression. We’ve entered our saecular Winter and there is no turning back. It arrived with ferocious blizzard like conditions in 2008, and had been in a debt induced lull until this election. A bitter fierce wind has begun to whip across the plains and black swirling clouds portend a tempestuous future. As the gathering storm looms, the Grey Champion appears on the mountaintop.


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“Americans have always been blind to the next turning until after it fully arrives.

Most of today’s adult Americans grew up in a society whose citizens dreamed of perpetually improving outcomes: better jobs, fatter wallets, stronger government, finer culture, nicer families, smarter kids, all the usual fruits of progress. Today, deep into the Third Turning, these goals feel like they are slipping away. Many of us wish we could rewind time, but we know we can’t – and we fear for our children and grandchildren.

Many Americans wish that, somehow, they could bring back a saecular spring now. But seasons don’t work that way. As in nature, a saecular autumn can be warm or cool, long or short, but the leaves will surely fall. The saecular winter can hurry or wait, but history warns that it will surely be upon us.

We may not wish the Grey Champion to come again – but come he must, and come he will.” – The Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0767900464?tag=thebur01-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=0767900464&adid=0VTFPQQFCAV7FYWEMDZT&) – Strauss & Howe (Emphasis mine.)

To those who have never read the book or understand generational theory, they are appalled I would declare Donald Trump as the Grey Champion. They interpret the word “champion” as having a positive connotation. It has nothing to do with whether the Grey Champion is a good person, moral person, or likeable person. It doesn’t even have to be one person. Ben Franklin and Samuel Adams, both from the Prophet generation, are considered the Grey Champions of the American Revolution Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=12f27700a4b1be5f7abb0252bb808542&creativeASIN=0767900464). One was a diplomat who used his guile and cunning to propel the revolution forward. The other was a firebrand, in the mold of our current Donald Trump.

In most cases the Grey Champions are not revered or glorified until decades after the Crisis is resolved. Lincoln was and still is despised by just about everyone living south of the Mason Dixon line. Outraged businessmen attempted to convince Smedley Butler to lead a coup against FDR. Large swaths of Americans believe he is responsible for creating our welfare state and the unfunded liabilities which are playing a large part in this current Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=12f27700a4b1be5f7abb0252bb808542&creativeASIN=0767900464). The unintended consequences of decisions made in previous Fourth Turnings often become the catalysts for the next crisis.

The Grey Champion or Champions are Prophet Generation leaders who command respect due to their age, attitude and warlike demeanor. They were born shortly after the previous Great War Crisis and became the narcissistic young crusaders during the Awakening, driven achievers during the midlife Unraveling, and principled moralists summoning great deeds during the next Crisis.

They tend to inspire through their words and rhetoric, rather than through grand deeds. They are human beings, and as with all humans, they exhibit both positive and negative traits. Prominent positive traits include being principled, resolute and creative. Detrimental traits include being narcissistic, presumptuous, and ruthless. The Grey Champion arrives when the situation looks grim and the people need a jolt of courage to meet the frightful challenges ahead.

One afternoon in April 1689, as the American colonies boiled with rumors that King James II was about to strip them of their liberties, the King’s hand-picked governor of New England, Sir Edmund Andros, marched his troops menacingly through Boston. His purpose was to crush any thought of colonial self-rule. To everyone present, the future looked grim.

Just at that moment, seemingly from nowhere, there appeared on the streets “the figure of an ancient man” with “the eye, the face, the attitude of command.” His manner “combining the leader and the saint,” the old man planted himself directly in the path of the approaching British soldiers and demanded that they stop. “The solemn, yet warlike peal of that voice, fit either to rule a host in the battlefield or be raised to God in prayer, were irresistible. At the old man’s word and outstretched arm, the roll of the drum was hushed at once, and the advancing line stood still.” Inspired by this single act of defiance, the people of Boston roused their courage and acted. Within the day, Andros was deposed and jailed, the liberty of Boston saved, and the corner turned on the colonial Glorious Revolution.

“Who was this Gray Champion?” Nathaniel Hawthorne asked near the end of this story in his Twice-Told Tales. No one knew, except that he had once been among the fire-hearted young Puritans who had first settled New England more than a half century earlier. Later that evening, just before the old priest-warrior disappeared, the townspeople saw him embracing the 85-year-old Simon Bradstreet, a kindred spirit and one of the few original Puritans still alive. Would the Gray Champion ever return? “I have heard,” added Hawthorne, “that whenever the descendants of the Puritans are to show the spirit of their sires, the old man appears again.” – The Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0767900464?tag=thebur01-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=0767900464&adid=0VTFPQQFCAV7FYWEMDZT&) – Strauss & Howe
The old man has appeared again. Just as he appeared eighty years after the glorious revolution behind the breastworks on Bunker Hill, providing spiritual inspiration to the farmer militia. The greying peer of Samuel Adams and Ben Franklin was just playing his role in the generational alignment which occurs every eighty years like clockwork. As the hour of darkness, adversity and peril arrives, the virtuous, fiery and unrepentant Gray Champion(s) appear through the fog of history like an apparition.

As the clock counted down to 1860, seventy-nine years after the climax of the previous Crisis, ideologues, warriors and righteous politician Grey Champions like John Brown, William Tecumseh Sherman, Robert E. Lee and Abraham Lincoln stepped into the breach, as the terrible swift sword felled over 700,000 citizens.

Seven decades later as financial markets collapsed, the world sank into a global depression, with world war just over the horizon, a moralistic no-nonsense prophet generation leader arose to lead his nation towards their rendezvous with destiny. As ancestral generations entered the constellation that reoccurs every eighty years, elder warriors FDR, Douglas MacArthur, and Winston Churchill appeared to revive the spirits of their countrymen and fight the scourge of fascism.

No one can make the argument these three Crisis leaders were likeable. In fact, their personalities were grating and they were detested by friends and foes alike. What they did was ignore protocol, feelings, and minutia, to focus on the only thing that mattered – prevailing at all costs.

The previous two Grey Champion leaders – Lincoln and Roosevelt – are still reviled by many Americans, as they were by millions during their time. Unconstitutional policies and executive actions during the gloomy ambiguous days of the Civil War, Great Depression, and World War II left a long lasting impression on the country and play a major role in our current crisis. Both centralized power with the Federal government, drastically weakening the power of the states. Both set the country on a path towards increased taxation, spending and waging war.

Lincoln and FDR were elected Grey Champions, but Lincoln only received 39.9% of the popular vote in a four way race, while FDR won in a landslide with 57% of the vote over Hoover. It was clear Lincoln didn’t have a mandate, as Southern states began seceding after his election. Lincoln’s support in the North was halfhearted at best.

Lincoln captured only 55% of the vote in the 1864 election, with only northern states voting. His cabinet of rivals despised him. They plotted against him, actively opposed his policies, and gloried in his failures. After four grim years of slaughter and failure, he was assassinated just as his armies’ attained victory. To this day he is still despised by liberty minded states’ rights proponents.

Even though FDR won landslide popular vote victories in 1932 and 1936, his detractors and adversaries were numerous. FDR’s confiscation of gold, antagonism toward big business, and dictatorial style, convinced a number of wealthy businessmen to approach General Smedley Butler to lead a coup against FDR and install a fascist regime to run the country. His New Deal “make work” projects and socialist policies were widely scorned by free market capitalists, as they prolonged the Great Depression.

No one can assert Lincoln or FDR united all Americans in a common cause. Grey Champions are not universally adored or defended. They aggravated societal pressures that had been ignored or deferred by their predecessors. Compromise was not an alternative for these men. They were going to lead in a confrontational style suited to the times, using unyielding principles to vanquish their enemies. Grey Champions have a particular set of personality traits making them well suited to lead during a Crisis. They have the facility to overlook the complexities of life and focus on one simple imperative: society must prevail.

In Part Two (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/11/20/grey-champion-assumes-command-part-two/) of this article I will assess the prospects of success for our new Grey Champion – Donald J. Trump and why this Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=12f27700a4b1be5f7abb0252bb808542&creativeASIN=0767900464) is about to turn nasty.

SOURCE (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/11/19/grey-champion-assumes-command-part-one/)


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Neither does Bill Holter....

Bill Holter Interview
(November 17th 2016)
(Uploaded 23-NOV 2016)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tnxFtZ80X8

Bill Holter makes an important point in the latter part of this interview. Our economy, that delivers food to the grocery store shelves and petro to the gas station pumps, that funds pay checks, and food stamps, runs on credit.

Even your dang bank deposit is credit - you're lending money to a bank that may fail, leaving you no possible way to get your money back.

The banksters have been causing collapses for generations, by pulling back credit, calling in existing loans and not lending new money. That slows the economy, hard. That's what they do, pump and dump, first extend easy credit then and then quit lending and start repossessing, foreclosing, and bankrupting. The banks do this to individuals, corporations and governments. They do this to the mightiest and the lowest.

When the bankers stop lending this time, given the vast overreach and entanglement of outstanding credit, this is going to be the Mother of All Crashes.

The biggest problem with our "just in time" distribution system is not just that the physical supply chain is long and fragile, but also that the credit based funding of every stage of that supply chain can all be choked off at once, by a wide spread retraction of lending by the banks ... and they will do that ... like the scorpion and the frog (http://www.aesopfables.com/cgi/aesop1.cgi?4&TheScorpionandtheFrog) ... that's what banks do.

The store shelves will empty soon, and you'll be taking your life in your hands, especially in inner cities, if you venture out to look for food or gas or anything else.

If you're not already living in a small village or a rural area, then be prepared to "get out of Dodge, and head for the hills", or else be prepared to "hole up" for weeks or months at a time and hope your home is not one of the ones that gets overrun or burnt down.

It's likely to get ugly in some places. Not in every place, even though the television news will make it look bad, really bad, everywhere, but in some places.

I agree with Holt that the demolition likely commences sometime on or shortly before Trump takes office, late January 2017. But this demolition will be a multi-year, perhaps decade or two long, project. The explosives and detonation cords are in place ... in awesome quantity.


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Keiser Report: Trumpocalypse (E996)
(Published on Nov 22, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDqkbvHe_BgPublished on Nov 22, 2016

In this episode of the Keiser Report from Chapel Hill area of North Carolina Max and Stacy look at what the Democratic party looks like on neoliberalism: collapsing. Is the TPP trade deal over? And was Donald Trump’s ‘craziness’ overblown by the media? In the second half Max interviews former head of the Democratic Party in North Carolina to find out how and why Hillary Clinton lost.

[turiya]

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Let us give thanks for all that we have, and let us boldly face the exciting new frontiers that lie ahead. Happy Thanksgiving.

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6:17 PM - 23 Nov 2016
Titter Link: ( https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/801610648010575872)



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Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. We will, together, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

7:30 PM - 23 Nov 2016
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I am working hard, even on Thanksgiving, trying to get Carrier A.C. Company to stay in the U.S. (Indiana). MAKING PROGRESS - Will know soon!

7:11 AM - 24 Nov 2016
Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/801805564577808385?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp %5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)

[turiya]

And with thanks to KiwiElf, we find that the drama continues.... at least momentarily...


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Scientists Find "Persuasive Evidence"
Of Vote Hacking, Demand Clinton
Recount In 3 States (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-22/scientists-find-persuasive-evidence-vote-hacking-demand-clinton-recount-3-states)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Nov 23, 2016 - 5:02 AM
Between the so-called 'Hursti Hack' (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-20/hacking-democracy), questions over Soros-linked voting machines (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-24/concern-grows-over-soros-linked-voting-machines), some peculiarities in Texas (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-25/texas-rigged-first-reports-voting-machines-switching-votes-hillary-texas), and the media furore over Trump's democracy-threatening questioning of the election outcome (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-20/morning-after-what-all-newspapers-are-leading-after-last-nights-debate); it is perhaps ironic that, after being soundly beaten across the vast majority of counties in America, NY Mag reports (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/activists-urge-hillary-clinton-to-challenge-election-results.html), a group of prominent computer scientists and election lawyers are urging the Clinton campaign to call for a recount in three swing states won by Donald Trump after allegedly finding "persuasive evidence" of vote hacking.

The group, which includes voting-rights attorney John Bonifaz and J. Alex Halderman, the director of the University of Michigan Center for Computer Security and Society, believes they’ve found persuasive evidence that results in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania may have been manipulated or hacked.

New York Magazine reports (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/activists-urge-hillary-clinton-to-challenge-election-results.html) that sources confirmed that the activists held a conference call last Thursday with Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta and campaign general counsel Marc Elias to make their case...

The academics presented findings showing that in Wisconsin, Clinton received 7 percent fewer votes in counties that relied on electronic-voting machines compared with counties that used optical scanners and paper ballots.

Based on this statistical analysis, Clinton may have been denied as many as 30,000 votes; she lost Wisconsin by 27,000.

Notably, however, it’s important to note the group has not found proof of hacking or manipulation, they are arguing to the campaign that the suspicious pattern merits an independent review - especially, as New York Magazine so gleefully points out (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/activists-urge-hillary-clinton-to-challenge-election-results.html), in light of the fact that the Obama White House has accused the Russian government of hacking the Democratic National Committee.

As a reminder, via MishTalk.com (https://mishtalk.com/2016/11/09/trumps-geographic-landslide/), Geographically speaking, Trump won at least 80% of the Nation.

The only states Hillary carried are Vermont, Massachusetts, and Connecticut.


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Trump won every county in Oklahoma and West Virginia. Trump won all but one county in Wyoming, and Kansas. Trump won all but two counties in North Dakota, Kentucky, Tennessee, Utah, and Nebraska.

Nearly the entire state of Minnesota, Illinois, New York, Oregon, Iowa, Missouri, Ohio, Michigan, etc., went for Trump.

Geographically speaking, except for big cities and a few isolated areas, the country cannot stand Hillary.


So the big question is - could she win? Well the answer is complicated...

SOURCE (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-22/scientists-find-persuasive-evidence-vote-hacking-demand-clinton-recount-3-states)


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Jeff Rense gets into this issue in his interview with Jim Fetzer...


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kdfvyFh53Ug/V7KPb9O-fLI/AAAAAAAAARg/9cVXocN79o0QF-vXKSWmbqyIQ7xEqa1dQCLcB/s1600/rense.gif (http://rense.com/)

(11/23/2016)
Hour 2 - Jim Fetzer -
Chaos In America

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Jim Fetzer Website (http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/)

[KiwiElf]

To readers: I alerted Turiya to this as the above info appeared on our MSM TV earlier tonight.
(I think TVNZ get their "scripts" from CNN!) :facepalm:

Jim Stone is also having a very hyped rant about it on his site (and mirrored by others).

http://82.221.129.208/baasepagea4.html

[turiya]

Trump picks a couple women for cabinet ...Nikki Haley was a strong critic of Trump regarding statements he made on temporary Muslim ban from certain terrorist prone regions... also Betsy DeVos for Education Secretary who is an advocate for Charter Schools...


Trump picks Nikki Haley as UN ambassador,
Betsy DeVos as education secretary
(Published on Nov 23, 2016)

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Donald Trump Cabinet Controversy
True News by Stefan Molyneux
(Published on Nov 24, 2016)

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[turiya]

The Burning Platform (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/11/03/civil-war-ii-fourth-turning-intensifying-part-i/https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/11/03/civil-war-ii-fourth-turning-intensifying-part-i/)

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GREY CHAMPION
ASSUMES COMMAND (PART TWO) (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/11/20/grey-champion-assumes-command-part-two/)
Posted on November 20, 2016
by JimQ
In Part One (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/11/19/grey-champion-assumes-command-part-one/) of this article I discussed the arrival of Grey Champions in previous Fourth Turnings; their attributes, deficiencies, and leadership skills; and why Donald Trump is the Grey Champion of this Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464?ie=UTF8&creativeASIN=0767900464&linkCode=w00&linkId=4e5bba74975377fca98db882a6f44caa&ref_=as_sl_pc_tf_til&tag=thebur01-20) – whether you like it or not. Now I will try to make sense of what could happen next.

“Our movement is about replacing a failed and corrupt political establishment with a new government controlled by you, the American people. The establishment has trillions of dollars at stake in this election. For those who control the levers of power in Washington and for the global special interests, they partner with these people that don’t have your good in mind. The political establishment that is trying to stop us is the same group responsible for our disastrous trade deals, massive illegal immigration and economic and foreign policies that have bled our country dry.

It’s a global power structure that is responsible for the economic decisions that have robbed our working class, stripped our country of its wealth and put that money into the pockets of a handful of large corporations and political entities. The only thing that can stop this corrupt machine is you. The only force strong enough to save our country is us. The only people brave enough to vote out this corrupt establishment is you, the American people.” – Donald Trump (https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/new-television-ad-donald-trumps-argument-for-america)

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Seventy year old Donald Trump has assumed the Grey Champion flagstaff. In an increasingly chaotic world, normal working class Americans in flyover country were seeking a leader who could bring order, defeat the corrupt establishment, make tough decisions, and capture the zeitgeist of this moment in history. The ruling elite oligarchs and their fawning minions, occupying their strongholds in New York, California, Illinois, and D.C., are infuriated the peasants have dared to resist. In their secretive secure spaces, the elites are plotting with one purpose in mind – this uprising must be quelled.

They are now fanning the flames of discontent, funding professional protestors, and convincing the useful idiot college student millennials, Trump is dangerous to their future. It seems these mathematically challenged snowflakes have already forgotten about the $10 trillion of national debt and $1 trillion of student loan debt loaded on their backs by the Obama administration in the last 8 years. This is not to mention the $200 trillion of unfunded welfare liabilities awaiting them as they graduate with degrees in LGBT Studies and great jobs at TGI Fridays in their future.

As the legacy corporate mainstream media outlets hyperventilate over Trump going to dinner without informing them, while scorning and ridiculing his cabinet selections (even when he hasn’t made them yet), this Fourth Turning chaotically churns towards its inevitable bloody climax. The current violence in the streets may be Soros funded domestic terrorism, but it still creates more anger, bitterness, and further unwillingness to compromise or meet in the middle.

This country is manifestly divided between red and blue, with the red geographically occupying 85% of the country and blue centered in the liberal urban bastions of corruption. There are multiple civil wars brewing below the surface, between the establishment and the people; left versus right; rural versus urban; Wall Street and Main Street; and the haves versus the have nots. It hasn’t turned particularly bloody – YET.

It appears Trump’s cabinet will be filled with establishment insiders. Many of his supporters will be disappointed. The daily minutia flogged by the 24 hour cable news propaganda machines is meaningless in the broad expanse of a twenty year Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464?ie=UTF8&creativeASIN=0767900464&linkCode=w00&linkId=4e5bba74975377fca98db882a6f44caa&ref_=as_sl_pc_tf_til&tag=thebur01-20) Crisis. Every president ends up with Washington insiders in their cabinet. At the end of the day, it’s the president who sets the policy, decides what to prioritize, and sets the agenda for the nation. In the case of a Grey Champion assuming command in the midst of a Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464?ie=UTF8&creativeASIN=0767900464&linkCode=w00&linkId=4e5bba74975377fca98db882a6f44caa&ref_=as_sl_pc_tf_til&tag=thebur01-20), events and his response to such events will dictate the course of the country and most likely the world for the next four or eight years.

The market reaction to Trump’s ascendancy has a stench about it. On election night futures dropped 800 points, but markets turned positive the next morning and haven’t looked back since. The stock market hovers at all-time highs. It’s almost as if the big swinging dicks on Wall Street decided to send a message – they are still in charge. It doesn’t matter who’s in the oval office, Wall Street calls the shots. If you cooperate and do as you’re told, the markets will ascend. If you attempt to implement any policy they don’t like, a crash will be manufactured (ex. TARP rejection by Congress). The currency and bond markets are in turmoil across the globe. Something is clearly getting ready to blow.

You can ignore the day to day gyrations, as the three core elements of this Crisis – debt, civic decay, global disorder – will produce a chain reaction implosion during Trump’s reign of power. The national debt is on automatic pilot to breach $1 trillion per year for as far as the eye can see. A $1 trillion infrastructure plan, rebuilding the military, building walls, massive tax cuts, trade wars and no spending cuts are a recipe for fiscal disaster. Trump’s advisors seem to be following Dick Cheney’s advice that deficits don’t matter. Steve Bannon’s documentary – Generation Zero (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3SLtP10NQ8) – was based on the Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464?ie=UTF8&creativeASIN=0767900464&linkCode=w00&linkId=4e5bba74975377fca98db882a6f44caa&ref_=as_sl_pc_tf_til&tag=thebur01-20), so you would think he would understand what’s coming next.

Interest on the national debt was $433 billion in FY16. That colossal amount was with a near record low weighted interest rate of 2.2%. In case you haven’t noticed the 10 Year Treasury rate has skyrocketed from 1.32% in July to 2.36% today. A 1% increase in rates across the yield curve will result in a 50% increase in interest on the national debt to $650 billion. Soc Gen’s Albert Edwards believes the current bond route could drive the 10 Year Treasury rate to 3.25%. That would blow a hole in our annual deficits. Isn’t leverage great?


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The housing market was already rolling over due to high prices and stagnant household incomes. With mortgage rates jumping by 1% and possibly more, housing bubble 2.0 meets pin 2.0. Auto loan defaults were already surging, as every Tom, Shaniqua, and Julio in America got a new vehicle with a low payment lease or 7 year 0% loan. Over 25% of all student loans are not being repaid. The stock market bubble has been sustained by corporate CEOs borrowing to buy back their stock at all-time highs. Their corporate earnings have been falling for several quarters in a row and now the interest rates on their record levels of debt are going higher.

In addition, the USD is now at a 13 year high, up 10% since May and 30% since mid-2014. This will further weaken the profits of our global conglomerates. Making America great again by bringing back manufacturing jobs will be DOA if the USD keeps rising. It just so happens earnings are falling with interest rates and currency rising, when stock market valuations are at record highs. The euphoria of the Trump victory will be short lived as the country officially enters recession and the stock market drops by 30% or more within the next year.

The civic decay already proliferating during and after the election will be exacerbated as bad debt wipes out financial institutions, corporations, and willfully ignorant consumer borrowers. The lesson of 2008 has already been forgotten. Rather than rolling out his grand vision, Trump will be dealing with a financial crisis which will make 2008 look like a walk in Central Park. Will he follow the same failed policies used after 2008 – NIRP, QE, and saving Wall Street at the expense of Main Street?

Or will he level with the American people, allow Wall Street banks to go bankrupt, let the free market purge the system of trillions in bad debt, tackle the unfunded entitlement liabilities, and have Americans endure a Depression in order to reset our economic system? It will take a Grey Champion with a high level of moral fortitude and courage to demand such sacrifice from the citizens of this country.

With the left already trying to provoke a race war, once the Depression takes grip and the social safety net of entitlements begins to fray, the civic decay in the urban ghettos will reach a tipping point. Cities will burn, looters will run roughshod as police refuse to enter lawless neighborhoods, and commerce will grind to a halt.

If social justice warriors, black lives matter terrorists, or any other group of useful idiots decide to take their protests and violence into the red zones, outright civil war could break out. The Grey Champion is likely to clamp down on this civil disorder with the use of troops. Civil liberties will be trampled as the Federal Government attempts to maintain control. Fourth Amendment fans will not be pleased.

With rigged markets at record highs and the establishment still holding this Ponzi scheme of a country together, so they can extract a few trillion more before the collapse, the illusion of normalcy has lulled tens of millions into a false sense of security. Global disorder expands exponentially by the day.

The Middle East is a powder-keg; Russia and the U.S. are one mistaken shoot down from war; Europe is being overrun by Muslim hordes even as their insolvent socialist paradise goes bankrupt; NATO provokes Russia on a daily basis; Japan’s decades long depression worsens; China’s debt bubble approaches the breaking point; and currency wars are waged across the globe. Delusional Americans willfully ignore the facts because acknowledging them would require painful choices and accepting the consequences of decades of bad decisions.

As Trump focuses on filling his cabinet posts and preparing for his inauguration eight weeks from now, the forces of evil are gathering strength and preparing for battle. We are in the midst of the lull before the storm. Nothing has changed since the election from a debt crisis perspective. It seems the mainstream media pundits are purposely asleep at the wheel as The Obama administration has dialed the government spending up to 11.

Obama has made it his mission to reach $20 trillion in debt before he departs. At the current rate of debt accumulation, he will reach his goal by mid-December. The Obama administration has increased the national debt by $324 billion in the first 48 days of the fiscal year. That’s a rate of $6.75 billion per day. The rate of accumulation last year was $3.3 billion per day. This is out of control, and not a peep from the propaganda media, or incoming administration.


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The ongoing Soros funded protests in liberal urban enclaves across the country are setting the stage for a major confrontation in Washington D.C. on January 20, 2017. Obama continues to fan the flames of faux outrage from the left. Soros and his domestic terrorist co-conspirators are planning violent demonstrations in the midst of the inaugural celebration. Obama will order the police to stand down and allow the situation to get out of control.


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Costa Mesa Trump Rally April 29, 2016

Picture the 1968 Chicago Democratic convention. There is one major difference. There will be hundreds of thousands of Trump supporters who will not stand idly by and be abused by millennial snowflakes, BLM thugs, and feminazis. This event is likely to trigger clashes across the country. The gloves will be off and the situation could spiral out of control.

Those hoping for the Trump presidency to somehow derail this Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464?ie=UTF8&creativeASIN=0767900464&linkCode=w00&linkId=4e5bba74975377fca98db882a6f44caa&ref_=as_sl_pc_tf_til&tag=thebur01-20) are delusional. Fourth Turnings never de-intensify. They build to a bloody crescendo, with the existing social order left in tatters and clear winners and losers. I think it is useful to describe this Fourth Turning in terms everyone should understand. J.R.R. Tolkien wrote his Lord of the Rings trilogy in the midst of the last Fourth Turning. It’s not a coincidence the heroic figure of Gandalf the Grey saves the day during the Battle of Helm’s Deep. He was the Grey Champion.

In today’s parlance, Helm’s Deep is occupied by normal working class Americans (aka the deplorables). George Soros is the evil Sauron, creating an army of Orcs with his immense wealth to destroy the good people of Helm’s Deep and abolish their way of life. Through relentless propaganda, violent protests, and the creation of useful idiots through our government indoctrination camps (aka public schools & universities), Soros is attempting to conquer our society and turn it into a global socialist playground for himself and his oligarch cronies. They had us surrounded and were breaching the walls. Two weeks ago the battle seemed lost. Soros had his Orc General Clinton positioned for certain victory.

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When the situation looked darkest, the Grey Champion materialized on the horizon with reinforcements indispensable in turning the tide. The feeling in flyover country when Trump ascended the podium to assume the mantle of the presidency was on par with the feelings of the Helm’s Deep citizen combatants when they realized Gandalf the Grey had arrived to save the day. As we know, the victory at Helm’s Deep did not win the war. Sauron regrouped and resumed his attack on humanity in short order. Soros is regrouping as we speak and girding his forces of evil for a final showdown. This war is still being waged. And the victor will not be crowned until the mid – 2020s.


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The Feeling You Get When You See Gandalf
During the Battle of Helms Deep

The deplorables were in search of a prophet generation (Boomer) Grey Champion to lead them through this era of darkness, adversity and peril as this Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464?ie=UTF8&creativeASIN=0767900464&linkCode=w00&linkId=4e5bba74975377fca98db882a6f44caa&ref_=as_sl_pc_tf_til&tag=thebur01-20) careens towards its climax. The Grey Champion doesn’t have to be a good person, but they must lead and display tremendous confidence in their cause and path. Humbleness, thoughtfulness, graciousness and building consensus are not the traits of a Grey Champion.

Lincoln and FDR have many detractors, but during their Fourth Turnings, they most certainly led, casting aside impediments (often illegally), initiating conflict and enduring many dark days, with bleak prospects for a successful resolution. But they forged on despite the setbacks, failures, and tragedies. Both died on the doorstep of victory. Those of a libertarian bent, thinking Trump will restore Constitutional rights, will be disappointed, as he is likely to strengthen and expand government control of our economy, healthcare system, speech and communications.

As this Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464?ie=UTF8&creativeASIN=0767900464&linkCode=w00&linkId=4e5bba74975377fca98db882a6f44caa&ref_=as_sl_pc_tf_til&tag=thebur01-20) traverses obstacles towards its ultimate climax, the intensity will escalate to an earth shattering dimension. Bold decisions will need to be made, requiring a leader who displays incredible confidence, unflinching determination and inspirational leadership. Political correctness and cultural warfare gibberish will have no place in the coming trials. Trivialities will be disregarded; techno-narcissists will be forced to abandon their iGadgets and pick up a weapon; financial oligarchs will see their fortunes evaporate in the blink of an eye; revenge and retribution will be meted out in equal portions; and the possibility for worldwide annihilation will be ever present.

Winter has arrived, bitter winds are blowing and Spring is many years away. Grim times have befallen the planet. The prospect for a tragic outcome grows by the day. The storm clouds loom on the horizon. There will be no avoiding the coming tempest. Trump cannot defuse the banquet of consequences, decades in the making, headed in our direction. The best he can do is maneuver the country through this minefield of history without blowing the world up. There will certainly be financial chaos, widespread death, colossal destruction, and an all-out war to the finish. Let’s pray the Grey Champion can lead us through this valley of death to a new High. There are no guarantees and our choices will matter.


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“The risk of catastrophe will be very high. The nation could erupt into insurrection or civil violence, crack up geographically, or succumb to authoritarian rule. If there is a war, it is likely to be one of maximum risk and effort – in other words, a total war. Every Fourth Turning has registered an upward ratchet in the technology of destruction, and in mankind’s willingness to use it.” – Strauss & Howe – The Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0767900464?tag=thebur01-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=0767900464&adid=0VTFPQQFCAV7FYWEMDZT&)

SOURCE (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/11/20/grey-champion-assumes-command-part-two/)


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[turiya]

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Kellyanne Conway Tweets She Is "Receiving Deluge Of Warnings Against Romney As Sec Of State" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-24/kellyanne-conway-tweets-she-receiving-deluge-warnings-against-romney-sec-state)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Nov 24, 2016 10:09 AM
In a peculiar update on Thursday morning, just around 9am Eastern, Trump's former campaign manager and current transition aide, Kellyanne Conway, tweeted that she is "Receiving deluge of social media & private comms re: Romney Some Trump loyalists warn against Romney as sec of state."


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She linked to a recent Politico article (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/mitt-romney-secretary-of-state-trump-231793) according to which "some of Donald Trump’s allies are steering him away from tapping one of his fiercest critics to lead his State Department. Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich on Wednesday morning both cast 2012 GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney as a detractor who's unlikely to be loyal to Trump."

Huckabee warned that appointments of disloyal Republicans could prove to be a distraction in a president’s administration, arguing that such a person could be a problem because he or she doesn’t have a sense of commitment to or compatibility with the president-elect.“It’s not about that I don’t care for Mitt personally, but I’m still very unhappy that Mitt did everything he could to derail Donald Trump,”

Huckabee told Fox News. “He didn’t just go after him from a standpoint of saying I disagree with his policy on immigration or I disagree with his policy on taxes. He attacked him on a personal level about his character, integrity, his honor.”

As a reminder, earlier this week, the WSJ reported (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-22/trump-said-be-leaning-romney-secretary-state-pick) that Trump is "inclined to select Romney" as Secretary of State. This, despite a long history of animosity between the "establishment republican" and the New York billionaire: "Romney delivered a blistering speech in March in Salt Lake City in which he called Trump a “phony” and a “fraud.” He also tried to pick a convention floor fight, boldly calling on voters to cast their primary ballot for whichever Republican had a chance to beat Trump in their state."

As the WSJ also added on Tuesday, one thing that appears to be delaying Trump’s decision about the secretary of state "is an internal tug of war between supporters of Romney, and those urging the selection of former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani. A third group is pressing the president-elect to keep searching for candidates."

While the tension within the Trump transition team on the selection of Romney is known, what is surprising is that Conway, by taking to Twitter with her complaint, makes it appears that there is more than mere internal bickering, and that she is willing to directly address her followers in what may be interpreted as a consensus-building effort against Romney.

Her subsequent tweet appears to confirm that she has reservations against Romney, by saying that "Kissinger & Schultz as Secs of State flew around the world less, counseled POTUS close to home more. And were loyal. Good checklist."

While we wait to see who Trump will pick for Secretary of State, it appears that another staffing decision is imminent: as the WSJ reported overnight, Trump is expected to pick Wilbur Ross as Commerce Secretary.

Mr. Ross, 78 years old, is chairman and chief strategist of private-equity firm W.L. Ross & Co., a company known for deals that included combining bankrupt steel producers Bethlehem Steel, Acme Steel, Weirton Steel and LTV Steel to form International Steel Group in 2002. His company’s work in the steel industry raised Mr. Ross’s profile in the Rust Belt, a region of the country that was pivotal to Mr. Trump’s electoral victory on Nov. 8. For some, the New Jersey native has been a savior for steelworkers, willing to risk his money to save thousands of jobs. For others, he was a vulture who cut jobs and pensions and forced pain on a once proud industry.

It is not exactly clear what Ross' current stance is on global trade, one of the key issues in Trump's platform:

Mr. Ross worked on policies proposing overhauls of U.S. trade and regulatory policy in the final months of the campaign with Peter Navarro, an economist who has been extremely critical of U.S. policy toward China.

“I favor world trade myself. A lot of our businesses engage in international trade. But over the years I’ve also learned quite a few of the trade deals that we’ve made have been just plain bad deals,” he said in an interview earlier this year. “There’s nothing inconsistent with being an advocate of trade and yet saying you need to do deals that make sense.”

ZEROHEDGE (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-24/kellyanne-conway-tweets-she-receiving-deluge-warnings-against-romney-sec-state)

[turiya]

Ron Paul compiles a list of jounalists that have colluded with the Hillary Clinton campaign...


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SOURCE (http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com/archives/revealed-the-real-fake-news-list)


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Hannity: Pres-Elect Trump Offers Dr Ben Carson
Sec Of Housing And Urban Development Post
(Published on Nov 22, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfvLU8VXduw_____________________________________

KEISER REPORT | Meme Wars E995
(Published on Nov 21, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF3VHwapQp8

[turiya]

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SOURCE (https://twitter.com/jojoh888/status/793969549863485440)

[ThePythonicCow]

Ken over at RedefiningGod.com is on fire regarding this US Presidential Election. He is certain that substantial post-election drama will take place, as the two sides battle back and forth.

His latest update, Alert: Here comes a recount (+ more on the Jewish connection) (http://redefininggod.com/2016/11/globalist-agenda-watch-2016-update-25-alert-here-comes-a-recount/), is worth copying to here.

Ken presents an excellent (if somewhat rambling as is his style) case that this US Presidential election is being scripted with thrusts and counter thrusts and drama galore, and it's not over yet.

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In Update 23 (http://redefininggod.com/2016/10/globalist-agenda-watch-2016-update-23-why-the-globalists-will-announce-trump-as-the-winner-of-the-election/), I warned that a post-election drama would take place…



>>> Once all the lagging precincts are counted, Hillary is expected to end up with 232 electoral votes, which means the globalists will need to put on a show in which she tries to claw 38 or more electoral votes from Trump in an attempt to overturn the election result. Since she is unlikely to succeed in getting them from Texas, she’ll need to get them from at least two other states. So look for…

> Clinton campaign claims of “irregularities” in two or more states, or
> rumblings in two or more state governments about overriding the popular vote to install new electors. <<<

And I was wrong. Sort of. Because the Occulted Powers are having Jill Stein do it instead of Hillary…

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…From The Boston Globe (https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/11/23/jill-stein-seeks-recount-wisconsin-michigan-and-pennsylvania/gmziuhamGOjDgYitbQpWSJ/story.html). Here is an excerpt…


>>> Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein on Wednesday called for a recount in three key states — Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania — and appeared to quickly raise more than the $2.2 million her campaign said was needed to pay for the recounts. <<<

Needless to say, there is no way that a recount could benefit Stein’s bid for the Presidency, but it can certainly benefit Hillary’s. And the three states Stein is attempting to recount are the very ones that were pointed out by “computer scientists” on November 22…

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…From NYmag.com (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/activists-urge-hillary-clinton-to-challenge-election-results.html)

Since a reversed result in those three states would lead to a reversed result for the whole election, this recount could give us the “Democratic coup” which would bring on the scripted counter-coup and potential war with Russia. That being said, these are the first dates to watch in the NWO Schedule of Implementation (http://redefininggod.com/2016/11/the-new-world-order-schedule-of-implementation-mod-3-0-step-1/): November 25 – 30 (to see if the recounts proceed).

Much love…

[P.S. – same day] – To take note of how ridiculously scripted this whole election drama is, as well as who is doing the scripting, let’s recall what Stein said about Hillary during the election campaign…

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…From Slate.com (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/gist/2016/10/jill_stein_thinks_nuclear_war_is_less_likely_under_trump.html)

So how absurd is it that after warning a Hillary presidency could bring nuclear war, she’s enlisting herself to help Hillary overturn Trump’s election? And as her last name suggests, Stein is a Jew (a descendant of Russian Jews, to be exact (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Stein#Early_life_and_education)). So here is a Jew helping to change the course of the election after another Jew, Anthony Weiner, helped change it before. Are you beginning to see who is orchestrating this back-and-forth stage play?

In case you can’t see it yet, read the section on Trump and Putin’s connection to Chabad-Lubavitch…

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…in Update 23 (http://redefininggod.com/2016/10/globalist-agenda-watch-2016-update-23-why-the-globalists-will-announce-trump-as-the-winner-of-the-election/) (it is the November 7 prescript near the top of the article).

By the way, here is a notable excerpt from the Forbes article on Trump’s Lubavitcher son-in-law (http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenbertoni/2016/11/22/exclusive-interview-how-jared-kushner-won-trump-the-white-house/)…


“The most compelling figure in this intrigue, however, wasn’t in Trump Tower. Jared Kushner was three blocks south, high up in his own skyscraper, at 666 Fifth Avenue, where he oversees his family’s Kushner Companies real estate empire. Trump’s son-in-law, dressed in an impeccably tailored gray suit, sitting on a brown leather couch in his impeccably neat office, displays the impeccably polite manners that won the 35-year-old a dizzying number of influential friends even before he had gained the ear, and trust, of the new leader of the free world.”

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[Flash]

So here we are. Some zionists very near Trump won his campaign This last post of yours Paul is a very important one to understand what is coming. Should be read by everyone and mostly the article on Kushner.

[ThePythonicCow]

I agree with Holt that the demolition likely commences sometime on or shortly before Trump takes office, late January 2017. But this demolition will be a multi-year, perhaps decade or two long, project. The explosives and detonation cords are in place ... in awesome quantity.
As Jim Willie explains in his latest interview, with Mr Ferguson (http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/podcast/8005/gobble-some-jackass) (listen around about 42 to 44 minutes into the interview) it seems likely to Jim Willie (and me) that:

That the massive "trillion dollar" lending that Trump plans to jump start the US economy will be at a higher interest rate than Trump hopes.
That this massive "trillion dollar" investment in US infrastructure (roads, ports, ...) will have to be changed to an investment in anything that can be exported, to address the trade deficit.
That this massive "trillion dollar" lending will have be "foreign financed" (Jim's words), or SDR basket of currencies denominated (my words).

Thus shall Trump's plan to Make America Great Again be sabotaged, and turned into more debt-enslavement of the United States.

The bankers will kick off the global monetary collapse, and force Trump into a corner that continues to serve the interests of the uber-elite.

[turiya]

Steve Bannon vs the Liberal-Left
& Establishment Media

Judicial Watch:

The left and the Establishment/NWO/Globalists are losing their minds over Trumps decision to place Steve Bannon of Breitbart as his number two guy. The MSM and liberal left are doing everything they can to discredit him, because they know he is completely awake and sees right through them. This shows that Trump is a “Truther” and values people like Bannon. Listen to what Bannon says in the 3rd Clip. He is prophetic in his understanding of how the country is changing! Truly inspiring!

Judicial Watch is one of the most credible organizations in the US when it comes to exposing corruption. They single handedly forced the FBI to investigate Hillary’s email scandal through nonstop FOIA requests. It turns out that Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, helped Steve Bannon with the production of his movie “District Of Corruption” in 2012 and worked closely with Bannon for many months. He completely refutes the liberal smear of Bannon and says that Trump clearly knew Bannon could help him “Drain The Swamp”. The MSM and democrats are freaking out because they have lost all credibility. It’s no wonder that Hillary said she were shut places like Breitbart down if she became president. Alternative media has become the major threat to the globalist agenda and Trump is now the mouthpiece for Wikileaks and alternative media.

The American People are waking up and fighting back! I love it!

Take Note of an hysterical Elizabeth Warren...



Judicial Watch Explains an Awake Steve Bannon!
Warren Hysterical Rant! Bannon Prophetic Speech!
(Published on Nov 17, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpxJKZivVkY____________________________

[turiya]

Ken over at RedefiningGod.com is on fire regarding this US Presidential Election. He is certain that substantial post-election drama will take place, as the two sides battle back and forth.



Yes, its all a drama!

Relax & Stay Calm...
Its All Nonsense... There is no Evidence!

My prediction:

This is not going to go anywhere. Period!

You can take that to the bank...


The Plot To Block Trump
John McAfee
(Published on Nov 23, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oybOxCBYIUw

[turiya]

Sean Hannity Interviews both Steve Bannon and Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton... about Bannon's Film about the activity that was carrying on during the first half of the Obama Administration....



Bannon's District of Corruption Part I
(11/22/12 Hannity Interview)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwKBTJVIio0____________________________

Part II

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=778jw4zfFS4____________________________

Part III

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMRtDEy13Aw

[turiya]

District of Corruption ((D.C.)) Movie Trailer... and this is WHY the political Left... this present Status Quoa Establishment, the Liberal Main Stream Media Hacks, & the corrupted Democratic Party is Running Scared... and why they are throwing every type of garbage they can think of at this new Trump Presidency... They are literally scared 'Sh!tless'.... of Donald Trump & his right-hand man - Steve Bannon as Trump's Chief Strategist - and what he can to do to the corrupt Political Insiders in Washington D.C. & all their connected Corporate Vested Interest Viper Lobbyists that lie down that Washington D.C. Rabbit Hole...



District of Corruption - Trailer
(Published on Oct 25, 2012)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuq6Jp-8R7g?list=PLY8YaWsf279l30HKDZBFHzRtHD94ubZyC

[turiya]

Clif High gives an update on his most recent Alta Report... (available on Clif's Website: HalfPastHuman.com (http://halfpasthuman.com/))... Get prepared as the Ship is to be Hitting the Fan... i.e. Credit Freeze...


wujo 11-18-2016
(Published on Nov 18, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nn6u0V1VrcPublished on Nov 18, 2016

Apologies for the blurry video. FStop stuck. Used camera.

Pie is blended apples, Braeburn, Rosa, Yellow Delicious, Pippin, with a coconut oil crust.

Bonds turned in July
Then USA bonds took the largest 1 day move ever the day after Trump elected.

American Federal Reserve Note empire meltdown continues:
dollar up which means trade down;
jobs down;
healthcare costs up, delivery of services down;
largest amount of out of country medical services levels ever in last two years by USAPop.

JIT supply system under huge stress. Further shipping problems and collapses underway.

Next up:

USAPop 2017

halfpasthuman.com November ALTA report WUJO

[turiya]

And there is this one posted a few days later - Round Table Discussion - usually has different information because its a dialogue, rather than Clif High giving his monologue, with members of the Roundtable asking their questions...


Clif High at the Web Bot Forum Roundtable 11-21-2016
(Published on Nov 21, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqDfr7UkGjEPublished on Nov 21, 2016

Clif High sits down with members of the Web Bot Forum to discuss his Nov ALTA Report. Recorded 11-20-2016

[turiya]

The Burning Platform (https://www.theburningplatform.com/)

http://www.drr.mdfsa.lk/images/WebSlides/DRR-Web-Slide-A6.jpg

The Termination of Cash
Approaching Rapidly (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/11/20/grey-champion-assumes-command-part-two/)
Posted on November 24, 2016
by JimQ
Guest Post by Martin Armstrong (https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/taxes/the-termination-of-cash-approaching-rapidly-the/)
The hunt for money is intensifying with the aid of banks no less. India was the balloon. They simply canceled the currency with no notice and imposed a 90% tax on anyone holding the high denomination notes.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5jdpOGylfs

This is how the world governments operate. The first bail-in was done in Cyprus. We were even contacted by members of the government trying to push back against the EU. We provided the solution (https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/research/cyprus-proposal/), but the government did what the EU wanted because this was a test. If they got away with it in Cyprus (https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncategorized/cyprus-bail-in-47-5/), then the “bail-in” would become a contagion. The politicians lied, as usual, and said that policy would NEVER be applied in Europe. It is now standard around the world. We warned, Cyprus, then Greece – who would be next. (https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/europes-current-economy/cyprus-greece-whose-next/)

Now following India, Citibank is refusing to accept ANY cash in some of its branches in Australia. Banks support eliminating cash for that means they eliminate bank runs. Government benefits for they can simply seize your money without any notice whatsoever. The ONLY way to get off the grid for serious money is to run into equities. The only way to hedge broker risk is to take delivery of the share certificates and do not leave them in street name.


http://www.thenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/summers_rtr_img_03.jpg

Meanwhile, the father of NEGATIVE interest rates and the great supporter of bankers, the establishment, socialism, and anti-democratic process is Larry Summers. He wrote in the left-wing newspaper Washington Post that it is time to kill the $100 bill. The Washington Post endorsed Hillary and had the audacity to write:

“The Democratic nominee is not the lesser of two evils. She is a choice Americans can be proud of. (Adriana Usero, Julio Negron/The Washington Post)”(see hillary-clinton-for-president-the-washington-post) This endorsement demonstrated how biased the Washington Post really is and how they are conspiring against the people of the United States for the establishment no less the left-wing that supports a deeply rooted Marxist agenda. This is why they published this piece by Larry Summers.

I am becoming deeply concerned that the United States is headed into its version of a communist revolution under the label “progressive” and the bankers, who Larry Summers has always supported, will be used as the scapegoat for Wall Street and the “rich” who have to be stripped of their liberty and their money for the “good of the people” as they always say. The United States does not look like it will be a country we can recognized by 2032 if we can even make it past 2024.

The entire purpose of eliminating cash is to strip us of our assets, liberty, and to prevent bank runs. The youth, who have been brainwashed by Bernie Sanders and people like Elizabeth Warren, will turn against the older generation and enslave them if at all possible. This threatens our future with outright civil war. They will not be satisfied until then destroy the freedom of their opposition.

SOURCE (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/11/24/the-termination-of-cash-approaching-rapidly/#more-137071)

[turiya]

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Cash Crackdown Escalates:
India May Impose 60% Tax On
"Unaccounted" Deposits, Curbs On Gold Holdings (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-25/cash-crackdown-escalates-india-may-impose-60-tax-unaccounted-deposits-curbs-gold-hol)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Nov 24, 2016 1:01 PM
As reported yesterday (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-24/india-panics-rupee-crashes-record-low-modi-cuts-banknote-exchange-6-weeks-early), India's unexpected crackdown on "black money" which saw the elimination of the old high denomination bills, is not going well, not only because former PM Manmohan Singh slammed the idea (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-india-modi-corruption-singh-idUSKBN13J130) warning it would cut as much as 2% from the GDP of the world's fastest growing economy, but because so far the voluntary participation in the "exchange" of old for new notes ahead of today's exchange suspension (deposits of old cash may still take place until December 31) has been far below expectations.

As a result, the government is taking even more aggressive steps to part savers with their allegedly "laundered" cash, and as the Indian Express reports (http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/cabinet-moves-in-to-tax-deposit-above-threshold-post-note-ban-4393906/), Mody's cabinet discussed amending laws to levy close to 60% income tax on unaccounted deposits in banks above a threshold post demonetisation of high-denomination currency notes. "The move comes amid banks reporting over Rs 21,000 crore being deposited in zero-balance Jan Dhan accounts in two weeks after the 500 and 1,000 rupee notes were banned, which authorities apprehend may be the laundered black money."



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA36vaTbm-I

IE sources said the government was keen to tax all unaccounted money deposited in bank accounts after it allowed the banned currency to be deposited in bank accounts during a 50-day window from November 10 to December 30. The Indian paper adds that there was no official briefing on what transpired in the meeting that was called at short notice as Parliament is in session, further suggesting that the Modi government is indeed panicking, and scrambling to come up with legislation on the fly to demonetize India's mostly-cash rich population.

There have been various statements on behalf of the government ever since the demonetisation scheme was announced on November 8, which has led to fears of the taxman coming down heavily on suspicious deposits that could be made to launder blackmoney.

Officials have even talked of a 30 per cent tax plus a 200 per cent penalty on top of a possible prosecution in cases where blackmoney holders took advantage of the 50-day window for depositing the banned currency.

Reprotedly, in the government's scramble to sequester cash, the government plans to bring an amendment to the Income Tax Act during the current winter session of Parliament to levy a tax that will be higher than 45 per cent tax and penalty charged on blackmoney disclosed in the one-time Income Disclosure Scheme that ended on September 30. As for those blackmoney holders who did not utilise the window, they would be charged a higher rate which could be close to 60 per cent that the foreign blackmoney holder had paid last year.

But wait, there's more.

Recall, that as per our report last night, one of the reasons proposed for the recent tumble in gold has been speculation that India may ban gold imports. As a reminder, gold has traditionally been a widely-accepted cash alternative in an economy where gold has long held a supremacy over cash equivalents, to the point where recently the government started paying a dividend to those who deposit their gold to local banks for "safe keeping."

Well, it now appears that the government is taking its crusade against gold one step futher, and according to a report by NewsRise (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/policy/india-may-impose-curbs-on-domestic-gold-holdings-report/articleshow/55614499.cms), the Indian government may soon impose curbs on domestic holdings of gold as Modi intensifies his war against "black money", news agency NewsRise reported.

As we reported previously, gold prices have soared in India ever since the November 8 demonetization announcement, and premiums jumped to two-year highs last week as jewellers ramped up purchases on fears the government might restrict imports after withdrawing higher-denomination notes from circulation in its fight against black money.

India is the world's second biggest gold buyer, and it is estimated that one-third of its annual demand of up to 1,000 tonnes is paid for in black money - untaxed funds held in secret by citizens in cash that don't appear in any official accounts.

The move to withdraw higher denomination notes has already started to disrupt cash-based gold smuggling, officials have said. Scrap gold supplies were also set to halve this quarter as the cash crunch and falling prices make it difficult for consumers to liquidate their holdings.

If the past is any indication, such escalations by the government will only make it even more attractive for the local population to hold gold as a safe "alternative" to cash, which as the past month has shown can be stripped of its value overnight, and will ultimately lead to even greater gold smuggling by the local population, resulting in another spike in the current account deficit, something which has plagued previous administrations, who have repeatedly looked for ways to prevent hot money outflows from the Indian economy.

SOURCE (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-25/cash-crackdown-escalates-india-may-impose-60-tax-unaccounted-deposits-curbs-gold-hol)

[turiya]

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Trump Prepared Campaign Ad
Against Obama In 2012 (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-25/trump-prepared-campaign-ad-against-obama-2012)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Nov 25, 2016 8:14 AM
Authored by Eric Zuesse, originally posted at Strategic-Culture.org (http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/11/25/trump-prepared-campaign-ad-against-obama-2012.html),

Too late actually to compete in the 2012 Republican Presidential primaries, Donald Trump prepared in August of that year a TV ad to show how he would have been campaigning against Obama’s re-election if he were to have been running against him.

Here it is:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRflwltRKg4
Because the ad features (at 2:37) this headline, «U.S. Unemployment Climbs to 8.3%» (http://web.archive.org/web/20120803230841/http:/www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/chi-chijulyunemploymentjulyjobsreport-20120803,0,6114456.story), from the Chicago Tribune on 3 August 2012, it had to have been prepared after that date.

At 2:08 in this video appears Obama’s 26 March 2012 off-mic private assurance to Putin through Medvedev (http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/26/romney-russia-is-our-number-one-geopolitical-foe/), that when Obama gets re-elected he’ll end America’s continuing Cold War against Russia (http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/how-america-double-crossed-russia-and-shamed-the-west/). (Obama was specifically talking there about his willingness to accommodate Putin’s objections against installation in Europe of America’s anti-ballistic-missile (ABM, or also called Ballistic Missile Defense, BMD) system — which promise to Medvedev turned out to have been a lie (https://normanpilon.com/2016/05/29/putin-warns-romania-and-poland-against-installing-abm-missiles-eric-zuesse-the-greanville-post/). (And Obama was, even then, already planning his coup (http://rinf.com/alt-news/latest-news/hillary-win-will-googles-win-everything/)to overthrow the Moscow-friendly leader of Russia’s neighboring Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych, which coup culminated in February 2014 (https://youtu.be/8-RyOaFwcEw).) Trump’s comment there to Obama about that off-mic clip was: «Frankly, it makes us worry whether we can trust you at all». However, this was actually a cheap shot by Trump, because everyone knows that negotiations between countries take place in secret, just as any negotiations of any deal necessarily must. If and when a deal is finalized, it normally (but not always) is made public; and, if the deal is between democratic nations, then the deal doesn’t go into effect unless and until it becomes ratified by the legislatures of the respective countries. But Trump wasn’t criticizing Obama for lying to Putin; he was criticizing Obama for promising there to negotiate with Russia (something that Trump himself as a 2016 Presidential candidate very publicly promised to do). Trump in 2016 publicly promised to do, what Obama in 2012 privately promised to do and was in 2012 criticized in this ad by Trump for having done.

Trump’s ad closed (3:40): «President Obama, you’re fired!».

The Republican National Convention occurred during 27-30 August 2012, and so this Trump TV commercial was probably created in order for him to be able to show it to potential financial backers for a 2016 White House campaign by Trump — the type of ads he would be running against, presumably, Hillary Clinton.

As regards why Trump didn’t run against Obama in 2012, one can only speculate.

Trump knew, at least as early as the 30 April 2011 White House Correspondents Dinner, where Obama referred contemptuously to Trump when addressing Washington’s elite (https://youtu.be/k8TwRmX6zs4), that Obama was an extremely formidable political opponent, who possessed an unmatched ease and grace, even when revenge-seeking. Some commentators say that Trump entered the 2016 Presidential contest in order to exact revenge against Obama by destroying Obama's Presidential legacy, but there’s no significant Obama legacy to destroy (http://rinf.com/alt-news/editorials/obamas-nonexistent-legacy/) (other than Obamacare, which is already failing of its own accord) (http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/republicans-issue-good-news-obamacare/); and, anyway, the hypothesis that Trump sought the Presidency for reasons having to do with that skewering of him by Obama is very weak and is basically unsupported (https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/i-sat-next-to-donald-trump-at-the-infamous-2011-white-house-correspondents-dinner/2016/04/27/5cf46b74-0bea-11e6-8ab8-9ad050f76d7d_story.html).

Furthermore, there is solid evidence that Obama not only wanted Hillary Clinton to beat Bernie Sanders to become his successor, but that Obama absolutely loathed Trump and wanted Hillary’s campaign to clobber him and remove him from America’s political future: During the White House Correspondents Dinner on 30 April 2016, Obama skewered Trump yet again, at 9:40 and 14:00 and 20:00 in the video of the speech (https://youtu.be/NxFkEj7KPC0), and Trump absented himself from that occasion, so as to leave Obama punching an absent bag. In that same speech, Obama praised (17:00) «Hillary’s toughness, her smarts, her policy chops, her experience,» and mentioned Bernie Sanders (14:55) as if he were just the Democratic Party’s cuddly pet and «especially his appeal to young people» (the main people petting him) — as if Hillary were the candidate preferred by the adults (who knew better).

Trump knew better than to pit himself politically in a contest against the most gifted American politician since — well, perhaps ever. McCain and Romney had been Obama’s punching-bags, and cleared that competition away from the Republican primaries field now in 2016 — time for Trump to step into the ring, finally, against the glass-jawed Hillary Clinton, and deliver the knockout blow that, perhaps, only Stephen Bannon was expecting.

SOURCE (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-25/trump-prepared-campaign-ad-against-obama-2012)

[turiya]

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/TRUMP_TWEETS/KELLYANNE_CONWAY_TWITTER_ICON.png (https://twitter.com/KellyannePolls/status/802269503627423744)






If personnel is policy, Don McGahn as WH Counsel & @ktmcfarland (https://twitter.com/ktmcfarland) as Deputy Director of NSA says it all. Brilliant choices, #PEOTUS (https://twitter.com/hashtag/PEOTUS?src=hash). Congrats!

1:55 PM - 25 Nov 2016
Titter Link: ( https://twitter.com/KellyannePolls/status/802269503627423744 )


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http://www.trbimg.com/img-5838956b/turbine/la-don-mcgah-20161125/600
Don McGahn

http://www.wmal.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/238/2016/03/kt-mcfarland.jpg
KT McFarland

[turiya]

Paul Joseph Watson on the cry babies that were led astray by the Fake News MSM...


MORONS REACT TO TRUMP WINNING
(Published on Nov 15, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXpi3F0E5ro_____________________________

Butt-Hurt Losers Demand Recount!
(Published on Nov 24, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-bwY-40QAY_____________________________

[turiya]

As was pointed out on an earlier post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90590-Transition-into-Trump&p=1115723&viewfull=1#post1115723)... I suspected that there is no doubt that Donald Trump would find his way around the MSM whores to communicate to the people - through other means - i.e. Twitter Tweets, Facebook, etc.... and then yesterday, comes this Zerohedge article...


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Trump Bypasses Media
With Direct YouTube/Twitter Distribution
As Feud With Mainstream Outlets Rages (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-25/trump-bypasses-media-direct-youtubetwitter-distribution-feud-mainstream-outlets-rage)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Nov 25, 2016 6:30 PM
For the past year and a half the Trump team has played the mainstream media like a fiddle. During the republican primary, he was granted millions of dollars of free air time as the unwitting mainstream outlets thought they were boosting one of Hillary's chosen "pied piper" candidates that could be easily defeated in the general election. Then, after helping to catapult him to the republican nomination the media predictably turned on him in a blatant effort to elect their chosen candidate. Unfortunately for the mainstream media, none of their plans to destroy Trump came close to working and, in fact, he used their corrupt, biased coverage to rally his supporters which is likely a big reason for his ultimate victory.

Perhaps no one has summarized Trump's relationship with the media and establishment institutions better than Michael Moore (https://youtu.be/AqHJuRcB-y0) who famously predicted two weeks before election day that Trump's election would be the "biggest f*ck you ever recorded in human history":

"They [working class voters] see that the elites who ruined their lives hate Trump. Corporate American hates Trump. Wall Street hates Trump. The career politicians hate Trump. The media hates Trump, after they loved him and created him and now hate him. Thank you, media. The enemy of my enemy is who I'm voting for on November 8th."

But now that the campaigning is finally over, the true panic is setting in for the mainstream media as Trump is threatening to cut off the one thing they have left: access.

While Trump's decision to bypass the media in recent days (starting with the message below posted on YouTube which has received millions of views) by speaking directly with the American electorate through direct distribution outlets like YouTube and Twitter may not seem like a big deal, it has the potential to be quite revolutionary. After running a campaign that proved that blatant, and frankly insulting, pandering to various minority groups and endless cash hoards weren't necessarily direct determinants of election success, Trump seems intent upon proving that the mainstream media can be completely bypassed in the modern world...and it is glorious to watch.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xX_KaStFT8

Of course, we suspect this is part of the reason for the mainstream media's recent crusade against "fake news" outlets, of which we're apparently one. To the extent they can discredit competitive news sources then they get to maintain their monopoly on ideas and information, and the blatant manipulation of those ideas into their own customized narratives.

As The Hill (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/307413-trumps-media-feud-enters-new-era) points out, Trump's distaste for the media is starting to sow fear and panic in the mainstreamers. For evidence of that fact, one has to look no further than the outrage expressed when Trump decided to ditch the press to have a steak dinner with his family. Where was that same outrage when Hillary ditched the press on 9/11 because of her pneumonia?

White House reporters are worried about access to Trump, who didn’t allow reporters on his campaign plane and ditched media staking out Trump Tower last week to have dinner with family at New York’s 21 Club.

The president-elect’s frequent threats to the press have added to a sense that the rules for covering this White House might be different.

“Every incoming president has basic, generally agreed upon rules of the road,” said Joe Lockhart, who served as White House press secretary for President Bill Clinton.

“The Trump team has decided they’ll blow up and the road and build a new one. Where it goes from here will be a test of how far the new president and his team want to push things, and the strength and will of the press to push back.”

As The Hill further notes, Trump has little incentive to go through traditional media outlets. Not only have they proven time and again to be an extension of the democratic party but with his social media following, Trump's direct distribution of his message gets just as much coverage as a press conference would.

But Trump has little incentive to go through traditional media channels, some experts say.

Facebook and Twitter combine to give him one of the most powerful social media presences in the world.

He has former Breitbart executive Stephen Bannon at his side in the White House, giving him a powerful ally in the massively influential world of right-wing news.

And when Trump releases a straight-to-camera video to announce his 100-day agenda — as he did this week, in lieu of a press conference — it elicits the same volume of coverage as a press conference would.

Trump was lavished with billions of dollars worth of free airtime and exposure during the campaign, irrespective of how he chose to engage.

Press advocates are worried that the president-elect appears to be holding all the cards.

As the head of the advocacy group Free Press points out “over the last 20 to 30 years, each White House has thrown up more obstacles and become more obsessed with controlling their own message, but this is a new apex, and it’s really dangerous." While we tend to agree that the disintermediation of the corrupt media may be dangerous for their employees...we suspect the rest of us will be just fine.

SOURCE (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-25/trump-bypasses-media-direct-youtubetwitter-distribution-feud-mainstream-outlets-rage)

[turiya]

Max Keiser while dowsing the beach in North Carolina
gets drawn to Diamond & Silk...


Keiser Report: Trump, Diamond & Silk (E998)
(Published on Nov 26, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71OqnnSlfXI






WASHINGTON -- To lobbyists, the election of a new president means new jobs, new access to the corridors of power -- and, by default, more influence for their clients.

But President-elect Donald Trump has vowed to "drain the swamp." His transition team recently purged (https://www.buzzfeed.com/johnstanton/lobbyists-have-no-clue-how-theyre-going-to-work-under-a-trum?utm_term=.gckrYnPxxR#.fqq4PRAkke) a number of registered lobbyists and announced a lobbying ban (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/donald-trump-lobbying-ban-231534) for those who want work in the administration. Virtually no one on K Street -- has any idea what is actually happening or what it will mean for their business. -- buzzfeed.com (https://www.buzzfeed.com/johnstanton/lobbyists-have-no-clue-how-theyre-going-to-work-under-a-trum)

[turiya]

G. Edward Griffin is Stefan Molyneux's guest... Global Warming has morphed into Globalism... more & more people getting a clue... Hence the President-elect Donald Trump...



Why Globalism Threatens Western Civilization
G. Edward Griffin and Stefan Molyneux
(Published on Nov 19, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOWrCKP46_w

[turiya]

Jill Stein Suspiciously Wants Recount
Only In States Won By Trump
(Published on Nov 25, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfvZQUIA37U _____________________________

George Soros doing his best
to get Clinton elected: Analyst
(Published on Nov 25, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-xozSpoX3s _____________________________

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/JILL_STEIN_S_RECENT_GRASS_ROOTS_FUNDRAISER_TO_RECO UNT_THE_VOTES_RAISES.png (http://ibankcoin.com/flyblog/2016/11/25/jill-steins-recent-grass-roots-fundraiser-to-recount-the-votes-raises-many-red-flags/)

SOURCE (http://ibankcoin.com/flyblog/2016/11/25/jill-steins-recent-grass-roots-fundraiser-to-recount-the-votes-raises-many-red-flags/)

[turiya]

This video also contains a Donald Trump 2001 interview
clip with his remarks on the 9/11 WTC event...


Paul J Watson & Alex Jones: Jill Stein & Globalist Attempt
to Stop Donald Trump Presidency
(Published November 25, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw53ncbIKY0________________________

Michael Moore: "His Presidency Has to be Opposed Right Now!"
(Published November 27, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d394VIyBTGw________________________

Donald Trump on 9/11 TRUTH (Aired Sept.11, 2001)
(Published on Sep 16, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23yfBWH8Hjk