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turiya

14th December 2016, 01:33

Yes, I've seen your other posts regarding this, Paul. But my Source(s) tells me different.
There's always going to be the next level of treachery that is ready to be put into place.
My Source tells me that Trump will take the Oath of Office on January 20th 2017, and will be the next POTUS.
We got just about a month to go...

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Will Trump Defy
McCain & Marco? (http://buchanan.org/blog/will-trump-defy-mccain-marco-126173)
Monday - December 12, 2016 at 9:57 pm
By Patrick J. Buchanan

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When word leaked that Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson, a holder of the Order of Friendship award in Putin’s Russia, was Donald Trump’s choice for secretary of state, John McCain had this thoughtful response:

“Vladimir Putin is a thug, a bully, and a murderer and anybody else who describes him as anything else is lying.”

Yet, Putin is something else, the leader of the largest nation on earth, a great power with enough nuclear weapons to wipe the United States off the face of the earth. And we have to deal with him.

McCain was echoed by the senior Democrat on foreign relations, Bob Menendez, who said naming Tillerson secretary of state would be “alarming and absurd … guaranteeing Russia has a willing accomplice in the (Trump) Cabinet guiding our nation’s foreign policy.”

Sen Marco Rubio chimed in:

“Being a ‘friend of Vladimir’ is not an attribute I am hoping for from a Secretary of State.”

If just three GOP senators vote no on Tillerson, and Democrats vote as a bloc against him, his nomination would go down. President Trump would sustain a major and humiliating defeat.

Who is Tillerson? A corporate titan, he has traveled the world, represented Exxon in 60 countries, is on a first-name basis with countless leaders, and is endorsed by Condi Rice and Robert Gates.

Dr. Samuel Johnson’s observation —

“A man is seldom more innocently occupied than when he is engaged in making money” — may be a bit of a stretch when it comes to OPEC and the global oil market.

Yet there is truth to it. Most businessmen are interested in doing deals, making money, and, if the terms are not met, walking away, not starting a war.

And here is the heart of the objection to Tillerson. He wants to end sanctions and partner with Putin’s Russia, as does Trump. But among many in the mainstream media, think tanks, websites, and on the Hill, this is craven appeasement. For such as these, the Cold War is never over.

The attacks on Tillerson coincide with new attacks on Russia, based on CIA sources, alleging that not only did Moscow hack into the Democratic Party and Clinton campaign, and leak what it found to hurt Hillary Clinton, but Russia was trying to help elect Trump, and succeeded.

Why would Moscow do this?

Monday’s editorial in The New York Times explains:

“In Mr. Trump, the Russians had reason to see a malleable political novice, one who had surrounded himself with Kremlin lackeys.”

Backed by Democratic leader Sen. Chuck Schumer, McCain has announced an investigation. The goal, said the Times, is to determine “whether anyone within Trump’s inner circle coordinated with the Kremlin and whether Moscow spread fake news to hurt Mrs. Clinton.”

What is going on here? More than meets the eye.

The people who most indignantly condemned Trump’s questioning of Obama’s birth certificate as a scurrilous scheme to delegitimize his presidency, now seek to delegitimize Trump’s presidency.

The Times editorial spoke of a “darkening cloud” already over the Trump presidency, and warned that a failure to investigate and discover the full truth of Russia’s hacking could only “feed suspicion among millions of Americans that … (t)he election was indeed rigged.”

Behind the effort to smear Tillerson and delegitimize Trump lies a larger motive. Trump has antagonists in both parties who alarmed at his triumph because it imperils the foreign policy agenda that is their raison d’etre, their reason for being.

These people do not want to lift sanctions on Moscow. They do not want an end to the confrontation with Russia. As is seen by their bringing in tiny Montenegro, they want to enlarge NATO to encompass Sweden, Finland, Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova.

They have in mind the permanent U.S. encirclement of Russia.

They want to provide offensive weapons to Kiev to reignite the civil war in the Donbass and enable Ukraine to move on Crimea. This would mean a war with Russia that Ukraine would lose and we and our NATO allies would be called upon to intervene in and fight.

Their goal is to bring down Putin and bring about “regime change” in Moscow.

In the campaign, Trump said he wanted to get along with Russia, to support all the forces inside Syria and Iraq fighting to wipe out ISIS and al-Qaida, and to stay out of any new Middle East wars — like the disaster in Iraq — that have cost us “six trillion dollars.”

This is what America voted for when it voted for Trump — to put America First and “make America great again.” But War Party agitators are already beating the drums for confrontation with Iran.

Early in his presidency, if not before, Trump is going to have to impose his foreign policy upon his own party and, indeed, upon his own government. Or his presidency will be broken, as was Lyndon Johnson’s.

A good place to begin is by accepting the McCain-Marco challenge and nominating Rex Tillerson for secretary of state. Let’s get it on.

SOURCE (http://buchanan.org/blog/will-trump-defy-mccain-marco-126173)

turiya

14th December 2016, 01:43

Trump seems to have some kind of protection, or a force field around him...

Funny you should say that :idea: .....Listening to Ion and Bob on payday and there is no way
I can verify this other than they have been saying it for years and much has come to pass...
According to Ion Donald Trump is taking RNA drops which is why he needs little sleep and
has so much energy. Bob is 94 and is as fit as a fiddle and hardly sleeps as well and has
been on them for several years. Ion is non-physical and 'they' are helping the Donald.

It is more complex but you would have to follow the shows to find out , this is also another
reason I have been interested in the Donald because according to them he is going to
be a good President........We will have to wait and see.....:usa2:

As I said 2017 has more upsets and Ion says Marie Le Penn will be French President .
If only I were a betting man....:doh:

Yes, I've seen your other posts on this Ion character. I've gone to one of the links to listen, but there was so much nonsense / noise (to me) that I just couldn't listen to it. Interesting in what you have said about this.

Pam

14th December 2016, 02:36

ThePythonicCow

14th December 2016, 02:52

onawah

14th December 2016, 03:53

I've been wondering the same. See: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94907-Trump-is-NOT-the-answer&p=1120183&viewfull=1#post1120183

Was the theory ever debunked that the elite would somehow manage it so that Obama remains in office (presumably due to some kind of event resulting in martial law)?
If that is still in the cards, then we would probably be seeing the "event" soon; more rioting perhaps?
But the picture is further complicated by the fact that new evidence is scheduled to be revealed in January showing that Obama's birth certificate and history were falsified (as well as questions re his Social Security number and his daughters' parentage).
Though no doubt that could all be suppressed or ignored if events are well enough orchestrated.
If the stories about how Trump was elected are really all just a part of the orchestration, then the election trauma-drama is probably not over yet.
Possibly the event that would provide an excuse for the declaration of martial law would be the assassination of Trump.
Or possibly a false flag event in which Trump is apparently assassinated, but is actually spirited away to be retired for the rest of his life to some island paradise, while Obama remains the pliant tool of the elite as POTUS.
With martial law, they wouldn't have to worry about alternative news getting the truth out about Obama's birth certificate or anything else, for that matter, and
the fake news could continue being faked.
The reason my suspicions keep on veering in this direction is that rather than public acceptance of the election results, tensions and disagreement seem to be on the increase...
Posted by onawah (here)

I have a theory and no matter how crazy it sounds, I would like to document this ahead of time on a public platform. I have to admit that I have bought into this election in some ways in spite of myself. Feeling a relief that we would not have to deal with Hillary and that level of status quo corruption that comes with her. Watching in amazement that overnight the country is awash in hope that industry will be encouraged to stay and in some cases brought back to the US, possibly reviving the middle class. All of this believing that we live in a corrupt, orchestrated world that is run to benefit an agenda that is not ours. So the irony of what I am saying is not lost on me.

First there was the recount effort and now the Russian angle with the attempt to sway the Electorates to change votes. I was really blown away that our government was so brash and obvious in their defiance to Trump. We even have Obama encouraging the military to defy him. I began to believe he would be assassinated, and now it looks like they will stop at nothing to prevent him from becoming the next president. But what if all of this is a setup. The whole drama. They have played the citizens so hard with MSM to take sides on this, the likes of which I have never seen anything close. It is clear to me that they have been encouraging uprising among us by instigating race issues. Now I believe this is the ultimate set up designed to create an uprising among the people severe enough to institute martial law. Imagine what will happen if Trump does not take office. I believe it will be the catalyst they are looking for.

Imagine what they could say to the electorates to get their cooperation. It would not be that far fetched at all..... You don't think all this preparation, FEMA camps and the movement of military vehicles to key locations, the donations of equipment and vehicles to police departments is all for fun.. I hope to God, that I am just suffering from an over active imagination. I hope someone will reply to my post to let me know that this is the nuttiest thing they have ever heard, because I really, really hope it is.

turiya

14th December 2016, 11:44

I have a theory and no matter how crazy it sounds, I would like to document this ahead of time on a public platform. I have to admit that I have bought into this election in some ways in spite of myself. Feeling a relief that we would not have to deal with Hillary and that level of status quo corruption that comes with her. Watching in amazement that overnight the country is awash in hope that industry will be encouraged to stay and in some cases brought back to the US, possibly reviving the middle class. All of this believing that we live in a corrupt, orchestrated world that is run to benefit an agenda that is not ours. So the irony of what I am saying is not lost on me.

First there was the recount effort and now the Russian angle with the attempt to sway the Electorates to change votes. I was really blown away that our government was so brash and obvious in their defiance to Trump. We even have Obama encouraging the military to defy him. I began to believe he would be assassinated, and now it looks like they will stop at nothing to prevent him from becoming the next president. But what if all of this is a setup. The whole drama. They have played the citizens so hard with MSM to take sides on this, the likes of which I have never seen anything close. It is clear to me that they have been encouraging uprising among us by instigating race issues. Now I believe this is the ultimate set up designed to create an uprising among the people severe enough to institute martial law. Imagine what will happen if Trump does not take office. I believe it will be the catalyst they are looking for.

Imagine what they could say to the electorates to get their cooperation. It would not be that far fetched at all..... You don't think all this preparation, FEMA camps and the movement of military vehicles to key locations, the donations of equipment and vehicles to police departments is all for fun.. I hope to God, that I am just suffering from an over active imagination. I hope someone will reply to my post to let me know that this is the nuttiest thing they have ever heard, because I really, really hope it is.

I agree with you, peterpam... the insane minds that have taken their exploits to unprecedented levels....
There's no logic with such an insane mentality. So, yes. There is only illogic - You can break it down into two words - Its an 'ill logic' that manifests with these absolutely mad minds. And this is the only way to logically understand the minds of the insane...

What does a spoilt child do when he can't get what he wants?

Every experienced parent knows the answer to this question. The child erupts with such a power that is quite uncontrollable. The child becomes absolutely incredibly powerful, as if he would like to destroy the entire world... Yes, every parent has witnessed this amazing phenomenonal event... when a child that has gotten everything it has wanted, and suddenly can't, and then comes the inevitable outcome...

When everything appears to be lost, then the only thing left to do is to:

"Bring Down The House!"

Cidersomerset

14th December 2016, 13:37

but there was so much nonsense / noise (to me)

I started from the begining back in 2009 when Kerry interviewed James Martinez
who was a friend and business partner to Walter Bowart author of 'Operation Mind
control'. After that I listened to James show which was 1 or 2 hours on a weds
evening and Bob and this ' entity' called Ion were guests. Its from there that Ion ,
Bob and Dr. Carolyn Dean and others have brought the show to where it is today
around 16 hours sat evening/ sunday and they have other shows thru out the
week on achieve radio.com. Bob was born into the French illuminatti famlies post
WW11 in Paris 1922 as a son of the family Butler Dobbs though he also goes by
Nevritt. He has had a long career in intelligence and media and is an expert on
Frank Zappa and McLuhan both of which he studied in his intel days. There is
masses of info in the archives , but his shows are ad lib and chaotic at times and
other periods they read from books and studies onvarious topics.They did a big
read thru of the Emerald Tablets which I was going to post a thread on at some
point but it is very long.

There is much more I can mention but I post this just to say you will have to take
my knowledge of them when I post the odd comment and take into account all the
other sources I post that if I take them seriously they are worth considering.
But I also understand if anyone finds them to chaotic to get into now, if I was
listening for the first time I would probably switch off....

Trump below reminds be of Bob , plenty of 'bluster' and substance must be the drops...LOL

Actually there is a bio is on the radio link ....lol
http://achieveradio.com/payday/

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The Donald continues his 'thank you' tour , certainly raising moral and
I think he will do his best to keep what promises he can pass thru congress...
An amusing reflection of the election and more...A few boos for Ryan but
nothing significant...

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Published on 13 Dec 2016
Donald Trump continued his "Thank You" tour on in Wisconsin on Tuesday night.
Trump spoke about his pick for Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, saying "you've
never seen a resume like this before." Watch his full remarks here.

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Trump's team under scrutiny over alleged connections to Russia

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Published on 14 Dec 2016
US President-elect Donald Trump's choice for Secretary of State is the head of oil
giant Exxon Mobil, Rex Tillerson. However Tillerson's coming under scrutiny by
some in the western establishment over his ties to Russia.

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Rep. Collins on Russian hacking: Move on

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Published on 14 Dec 2016
Rep. Chris Collins (R-NY), who is a member of Donald Trump's transition team,
discusses the US response to Russia hacking the DNC.

Cidersomerset

14th December 2016, 16:56

Finally Clapper telling some truths, below Judge Napolitano explains the difference
between 'Hacks' and 'Leaks'......Listen to both vids.....Russia did not 'leak' the
e.mails and did no more 'hacking' than anyone else and there is no proof they
actually did !!

Clapper Claims Wikileaks Connection With Russian Cyber Attacks is Not Strong

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Published on 12 Dec 2016

https://twitter.com/wikileaks?lang=en-gb

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Judge Napolitano on Russia's alleged involvement in hacks

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Published on 12 Dec 2016
On 'The Kelly File,' Fox News senior judicial analyst on the suggestion that the
hacks may have been a 'false flag operation'

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From August 2016

Former NSA official claims agency hacked DNC, not Russia

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Published on 2 Aug 2016
Judge Andrew Napolitano weighs in

A Voice from the Mountains

14th December 2016, 19:59

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Remember when Obama said Trump was ridiculous for saying that the system was rigged, and promised us that the elections were safe and secure? I've got a "before and after" meme somewhere about that too but I'll have to dig for it.

I was also pretty shocked to read that Netanyahu said he actually wants to work with Trump on a two-state solution with Palestine.

Cidersomerset

14th December 2016, 20:07

CIA NN are so anti Trump its amusing/annoying at the same time at this
stage of administration building.....The first vid shows how his managerial
style Presidency may pan out. The second is just the host being hostile..LOL

Trump meets with tech giants at Trump Tower

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Published on 14 Dec 2016

President-elect Donald Trump meets with leaders in the tech industry at Trump Tower in New York.

CNN host, RNC strategist feud over Trump's transparency

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Published on 14 Dec 2016
CNN's Kate Bolduan challenges RNC Chief Strategist Sean Spicer over his claim that
President-elect Donald Trump's "level of transparency has exceeded any modern president."

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New York Times' David Sanger says Putin did it and CBS swallows it up...oh dear !!
No proof or details other than the Russians went in and a little Del laptop.

Inside story of how Russia hacked the Democratic National Committee

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Published on 14 Dec 2016
The New York Times' David Sanger joins CBSN to discuss his article about the
Russian cyberattack on the Democratic National Committee

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Calls Grow For Probe Into Russia Election Meddling | Andrea Mitchell | MSNBC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEDmuX5h5-Q

Published on 14 Dec 2016
According to a New York Times report, the FBI and DNC ignored the signs and
underestimated the seriousness of Russia's cyberattack. Democrats are now
demanding the hacking details be declassified.

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CIA NN ..again...

White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest...stirring the pot !!

White House: Trump knew Russia hacked Clinton

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Published on 14 Dec 2016

White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest states that President-elect Donald Trump
was "obviously aware" that Russia meddled in the US election to benefit his own
campaign.

norman

15th December 2016, 01:22

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Bob

15th December 2016, 05:12

Congress is a bit pissed, that the "intelligence" agencies refused to provide the "proof"

10:13 p.m. EST December 14, 2016

Intelligence officials refuse to brief House panel on Russian hacking

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House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes on Wednesday blasted as "unacceptable" the refusal of the FBI, CIA and National Intelligence directors to brief his panel on the Russian cyber attacks that occurred during the presidential campaign.

Nunes had requested that National Intelligence Director James Clapper, with participation from FBI Director James Comey and CIA Director John Brennan, brief committee members in a closed session on Thursday.

That briefing has now been cancelled.

The California Republican, in a letter sent to Clapper on Monday, said he wanted clarification about why the CIA is now saying that Russian hacks of political campaign committees earlier this year appeared to be aimed at helping President-elect Donald Trump and hurting Democrat Hillary Clinton. Nunes pointed to testimony from Clapper in a public hearing in November that the Intelligence Community lacked the evidence to draw such a conclusion.

"It is unacceptable that the Intelligence Community directors would not fulfill the House Intelligence Committee’s request to be briefed tomorrow on the cyber-attacks that occurred during the presidential campaign," Nunes said in a statement released Wednesday night. "The legislative branch is constitutionally vested with oversight responsibility of executive branch agencies, which are obligated to comply with our requests."

about that 'proof'.... hmmm

source (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/12/14/intelligence-officials-refuse-brief-house-panel-russian-hacking/95453412/)

Cara

15th December 2016, 05:28

Some info I scanned through on Trump's pick for Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson.

From Breitbart (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/12/13/official-donald-trump-selects-rex-tillerson-secretary-state/):
It's Official: Donald Trump Selects Rex Tillerson as Secretary of State
President-elect Donald Trump will nominate the Chairman and CEO of ExxonMobil, Rex Tillerson, as Secretary of State.
“Rex Tillerson’s career is the embodiment of the American dream. Through hard work, dedication and smart deal making, Rex rose through the ranks to become CEO of ExxonMobil, one of the world’s largest and most respected companies,” Trump said in a statement. “His tenacity, broad experience and deep understanding of geopolitics make him an excellent choice for Secretary of State.”

Tillerson was hailed in the release for guiding a global company and his experience negotiating with world leaders.

“Rex knows how to manage a global enterprise, which is crucial to running a successful State Department, and his relationships with leaders all over the world are second to none,” Trump said. “I can think of no one more prepared, and no one more dedicated, to serve as Secretary of State at this critical time in our history.”

Tillerson accepted the nomination, appearing willing to leave his position at the top of one of America’s greatest companies.

“I am honored by President-elect Trump’s nomination and share his vision for restoring the credibility of the United States’ foreign relations and advancing our country’s national security,” Tillerson said. “We must focus on strengthening our alliances, pursuing shared national interests and enhancing the strength, security and sovereignty of the United States.”

About ExxonMobil (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExxonMobil#), from Wikipedia:
Exxon Mobil Corporation is an American multinational oil and gas corporation headquartered in Irving, Texas, which is a part of the Dallas–Fort Worth metroplex. It is the largest direct descendant of John D. Rockefeller's Standard Oil Company,[3] and was formed on November 30, 1999 by the merger of Exxon (formerly Standard Oil Company of New Jersey) and Mobil (formerly the Standard Oil Company of New York).

The world's 8th largest company by revenue, ExxonMobil is also the fifth largest publicly traded company by market capitalization.[4][5] The company was ranked No. 6 globally in Forbes Global 2000 list in 2014.[6] ExxonMobil was the second most profitable company in the Fortune 500 in 2014.[7]
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About Tillerson (http://www.muckety.com/Rex-W-Tillerson/1317.muckety), from Muckety:
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Rex W. Tillerson
Business executive
Gender: Male
Age in 2016: 64
Address: Lives and/or works in Bartonville, TX .
Stocks to watch when Rex W. Tillerson is in the news: Exxon Mobil Corp. (XOM)
Wealth class: Multimillionaire
Areas of interest: nonprofits , business , energy industry
Politics: Tillerson is a contributor to Republican committees and campaigns.
Financial information:
As an officer, director and/or owner of publicly traded securities, Tillerson has filed documents with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Other current Rex W. Tillerson relationships:
Business Roundtable - executive committee member
Center for Strategic and International Studies - trustee
Donald Trump administration - secretary of state nominee
Exxon Mobil Corp. - chairman of the board & CEO
National Petroleum Council - member
U.S. Department of State - secretary nominee

Rex W. Tillerson past relationships:
Boy Scouts of America - president
Business Council - executive committee member
Vladimir Putin - bestowed Russia's Order of Friendship on
United Negro College Fund - director
White House visits (2009) - visitor
World Economic Forum 2009 attendee

Rex W. Tillerson campaign contributions:
Listed below are federal donations of $3,000+ reported to the FEC.
Republican Party of Kentucky - $10,000 on 10/27/2014
Exxon Mobil Corporation PAC - $5,000 on 3/25/2013
Romney Victory Inc - $50,000 on 9/10/2012
Exxon Mobil Corporation PAC - $5,000 on 5/15/2012
National Republican Congressional Committee - $10,000 on 3/26/2012
Exxon Mobil Corporation PAC - $5,000 on 12/19/2011
National Republican Senatorial Committee - $30,800 on 9/15/2011
National Republican Congressional Committee - $5,000 on 3/31/2011
National Republican Senatorial Committee - $30,000 on 8/19/2010
Exxon Mobil Corporation PAC - $5,000 on 4/13/2010
National Republican Congressional Committee - $5,000 on 4/2/2010
Exxon Mobil Corporation PAC - $5,000 on 8/10/2009
National Republican Congressional Committee - $5,000 on 3/30/2009
National Republican Congressional Committee - $5,000 on 6/7/2007

ThePythonicCow

15th December 2016, 07:43

Yes, I've seen your other posts regarding this, Paul. But my Source(s) tells me different.
There's always going to be the next level of treachery that is ready to be put into place.
Yes - indeed - there is always another level of treachery. My take, agreeing with Ken over at RedefiningGod.com, is that the real globalists are on track to substantially rachet up their global control, and if they succeed in their efforts, most humans will welcome the changes. That's the "next level" of treachery I see unfolding, even now.

My Source tells me that Trump will take the Oath of Office on January 20th 2017, and will be the next POTUS.
We got just about a month to go...
We'll see. Since most of my predictions over the years have failed ... the odds of you being right are good :).

Something else occurred to me earlier today, that fits in with this speculation of Ken over at RedefiningGod.com, that I've been posting.

I've been taking for granted that if, somehow, the US Presidential election ended up being decided the House of Representatives, then it would go to Republican Trump, without delay. The Republicans control the House.

That's not entirely so. Trump is not a Washington insider.
Trump is vowing to "drain the swamp".
Many of the Republican leadership openly opposed Trump during the election.
Most politicians in Washington are "swamp critters", the bought and paid for agents of our "swamp masters".The instincts of Republican Representatives are not automatically pro-Trump. Indeed, our Republican Representatives have good reason to be leary of Trump.

Moreover, many elected Representatives started out as lawyers, and it is a natural instinct of lawyers, when pushed into a difficult situation, to stall (or sue, or charge) for more time.

All this fits well with Ken's forecast. The various controversies over the Russians, various leaks and hacks, various allegations from the CIA of Russian hacking of the US election, Lawrence Lessig's (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-14/harvard-professor-says-hes-rallied-nearly-enough-gop-electors-block-trump) (a major power broker for decades) accumlating "faithless electors" to vote for someone else other than Trump, etc ... all seem to me a setup to get Congress, when they receive the letters from the Electoral College on Jan 6, 2017, to reject enough of the states electors to throw the election into controversy that would not be decided until after Jan 20, 2017.

Those backing Trump would protest vigorously, but those who had backed Clinton would likely think that Congress was doing just what it should do to ensure that the election was fair and honest.

Meanwhile, from Jan 20 until whenever Congress did decide Trump had won, the Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan, would be the undisputed temporary President ... setting us up for whatever nasty escalation between Russia and the US in the war in the Middle East that the elite bastards had in store for us.

turiya

15th December 2016, 15:42

This could be huge. This was found on GotNews.com. It is suggest to donate to them, as they did the footwork on the following...

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EXPOSED: Faithless Elector Chris Suprun
Paid for Ashley Madison
While Bankrupt & Married With 3 Kids (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/12/exposed-faithless-elector-chris-suprun-paid-ashley-madison-bankrupt-married-3-kids/)

Cristina Laila (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/author/cristina/)
Dec 13th, 2016 6:14 pm

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Chris Suprun is one of 38 Texas electors. He recently went public with his decision to go against the will of the people of Texas; he will not be honoring his pledge to vote for President Elect, Donald Trump.

Chris Suprun has taken quite a beating on social media by Americans who are outraged at his decision to go rogue. There was even a petition started to have him removed and replaced (https://www.change.org/p/texas-governor-remove-chris-suprun-from-the-north-texas-electoral-college).

Eyebrows were raised and suspicions grew over what Mr. Suprun’s intentions really are after he penned an op-ed (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/05/opinion/why-i-will-not-cast-my-electoral-vote-for-donald-trump.html) in the New York Times over his decision to be a ‘faithless elector’. Shockingly, his Twitter bio directs media inquiries to P.R. firm, Megaphone Strategies (https://megaphonestrategies.com/). This P.R. firm represents radical left wing organizations like Black Lives Matter (http://blacklivesmatter.com/) and even represents CNN’s ultra left wing radical, Van Jones (http://truthfeed.com/breaking-pr-firm-founded-by-van-jones-representing-rogue-gop-electors-against-trump/40631/).

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SOURCE (http://truthfeed.com/breaking-pr-firm-founded-by-van-jones-representing-rogue-gop-electors-against-trump/40631/)

Leave it to the great sleuthing via Got News (http://gotnews.com/) to peel back the layers of the onion to fully expose Chris Suprun.

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/CHRIS_SUPRIN_THE_ANTI_TRUMP_FAITHLESS_TEXAS_ELECTOR_TWITTER_IMAGE.png (https://twitter.com/wesearchr/status/808419368627339264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

Got News’ research has revealed that Chris Suprun filed Bankruptcy and 6 months later joined Ashley Madison, which is a ‘dating site’ for married people looking to have an affair. Mr. Suprun had 3 children under the age of 10 at the time! It is also alleged that he was unemployed during this time while his wife worked full time!

Is this the type of person who should be allowed to be an elector? If he can’t even be faithful to his wife and family, how do we expect him to be faithful and uphold his pledge as an elector?

A man who is as compromised as Chris Suprun is ripe for blackmail or bribery and must be removed and replaced immediately.

SOURCE (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/12/exposed-faithless-elector-chris-suprun-paid-ashley-madison-bankrupt-married-3-kids/)

turiya

15th December 2016, 17:05

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Has anyone looked at the
really poor numbers of @VanityFair (https://twitter.com/VanityFair) Magazine.
Way down, big trouble, dead!
Graydon Carter, no talent, will be out!

5:05 AM - 15 Dec 2016

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/809383989018497024)

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Thank you to Time Magazine
and Financial Times for naming me
"Person of the Year" - a great honor!

5:09 AM - 15 Dec 2016

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/809384826193276928)

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The media tries so hard to make
my move to the White House, as it pertains
to my business, so complex - when actually it isn't!

5:28 AM - 15 Dec 2016

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/809389774066814976)

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If Russia, or some other entity, was hacking,
why did the White House wait so long to act?
Why did they only complain after Hillary lost?

6:24 AM - 15 Dec 2016

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/809403760099422208)

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turiya

15th December 2016, 17:30

The Burning Platform (https://www.theburningplatform.com/)

http://www.drr.mdfsa.lk/images/WebSlides/DRR-Web-Slide-A6.jpg

So It WAS NOT Hacking.
Apologize Now, OR GET OUT! (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/12/12/cnn-reveals-conclusive-evidence-of-russia-hacking-election/)
Posted on December 15, 2016
Karl Denninger

A Wikileaks envoy today claims he personally received Clinton campaign emails in Washington D.C. after they were leaked by ‘disgusted’ whisteblowers – and not hacked by Russia.

Craig Murray, former British ambassador to Uzbekistan and a close associate of Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, told Dailymail.com that he flew to Washington, D.C. for a clandestine hand-off with one of the email sources in September.

‘Neither of [the leaks] came from the Russians,’ said Murray in an interview with Dailymail.com on Tuesday. ‘The source had legal access to the information. The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks.’

The source gave it to him.

There was no hacking. There was instead a disguntled Democrat operative who had access to the data, dumped it, and turned it over.

This is a guy who
(1) claims to have met the actual source,
(2) received the actual data and
(3) got the data because the person who took it was pissed off that the Democrats stole the nomination from Sanders.

The “Russian” claim just went up in smoke.

If you’re one of the people running it, unless you can prove this guy is full of crap, I expect your apology.

If I don’t get it, or proof that he’s lying, then f*** you.

F*** you now, f*** you forever, f*** you personally, politically and professionally and f*** everyone who associates with you and does not immediately repudiate said association and take the exact same position.

Period.

And yes, I mean it — and I don’t give a s*** how long I’ve known you or who you are — because at best you are cheering on knowingly-false allegations of a blatant attempt to destroy our republic by a foreign power — that is, you are knowingly and falsely alleging that an act of war occurred.

PS: I hate it when I’m right. (https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231711)

PPS: Was his name “Seth Rich”? Because if so then every single person supporting the “hack” narrative, repeating it or cheering it on is in fact cheering on murder and it is my sincere wish to each of you, collectively and individually, that you burn eternally in Hell for your open and outrageous support of both corruption and murder.

SOURCE (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/12/15/so-it-was-not-hacking-apologies-now-or-get-out/#more-138534)

turiya

15th December 2016, 20:54

EVERYONE seems to want to get on Anti-Trump Train...

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Yasmin Seweid

Woman Made Up Tale of Anti-Muslim
Attack by Men Shouting 'Trump': Sources (https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20161214/murray-hill/yasmin-seweid-trump-hijab-nypd-nyc-hate-crime-anti-muslim-false-report)

By Murray Weiss |
December 14, 2016 4:17pm |
Updated December 15, 2016 12:09pm |
MANHATTAN — An 18-year-old Muslim college student who claimed three men screaming "Donald Trump!" attacked her on a Manhattan subway platform (https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20161202/murray-hill/anti-muslim-hate-crime-6-train-manhattan-hijab) was arrested on charges of filing a false report after admitting she made up the incident, sources told DNAinfo New York.

Yasmin Seweid, a Baruch College student, told police that she boarded a uptown No. 6 train at East 23rd St. on Dec. 1 and was called a "terrorist" by three drunken young white men.

She also claimed that when she moved to the other end of the train, one of the men followed her and tried to pull off her hijab before she fled.

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But investigators who spent significant NYPD resources trying to verify her story were unable to find any witnesses to the incident or video that could corroborate her story, sources said.

Seweid finally recanted Tuesday, admitting she misguidedly made up the tale to get attention because she was having issues with her family at home.

She was arranged in Manhattan Criminal Court Wednesday night on misdemeanor charges of filing a false report, according to the criminal complaint. She was released from court late Wednesday night, according to reports. Prosecutors declined to discuss the case or say when she would be due back in court.

A source explained that, given the amount of time detectives spent chasing the phony story, and how politically charged the allegation was, the police and prosecutors felt compelled to charge her, particularly since they said they had given her numerous opportunities to come clean earlier in the process. She repeatedly refused to tell the truth for weeks, they added.

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The charges came as news to her father on Wednesday afternoon.

"You try to raise your children as best you can," said her father Sayeed Seweid, a limo driver who is attending law school at St. John's. "Maybe she was afraid that night. She was running late," he added.

After the incident, his daughter had gone missing for several days and he had filed a missing persons report. She was later found at a friend's house, according to reports.

"She's a bright, good girl. She's young and maybe she was foolish here," he added. "Young kids, you know, you don't understand their mentality."

SOURCE (https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20161214/murray-hill/yasmin-seweid-trump-hijab-nypd-nyc-hate-crime-anti-muslim-false-report)

turiya

15th December 2016, 21:12

More Paul Joseph Watson on Fake News...

What They're NOT Telling You About Fake News
(Published on Dec 13, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMX4NmCJGm0_________________________________

They're at it Again... And, They're not asking you to vote for Hillary...

The push to pressure and overturn the Electoral College vote on December 19 escalated last night, when a group of celebrities created a video to urge Electoral College members to cast their votes for someone other than President-elect Donald Trump on Monday. “You have the position, the authority, and the opportunity to go down in the books as an American hero who changed the course of history,” several celebrities say in turn.

A Message for Electors to Unite For America
(Published on Dec 14, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z0iuWh3sek

Chester

15th December 2016, 21:55

News on Julian Assange... he's 100% fine - alive, well and leaking - see this post.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94898-A-thread-of-prayers-for-Julian-Assange&p=1120801&viewfull=1#post1120801

turiya

15th December 2016, 21:59

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US Accuses Vladimir Putin
Of "Personal Involvement"
In Election Hack (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-14/us-accuses-vladimir-putin-personal-involvement-election-hack)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Dec 15, 2016 5:21 AM
And just like that the narrative of Russia hacking the presidential election has escalated to the highest possible level, and has officially jumped the shark.

Moments ago, following a month-long barrage of unsubstantiated stories in the press accusing the Russian government of indirectly hacking the US presidential election, which culminated with last night's 8,000 word NYT expose (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-13/new-york-times-explains-how-it-became-instrument-russian-intelligence), and which followed a schism between the FBI and CIA, in which the former disputed the latter's "fuzzy and ambiguous" claims (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-12/fbi-disputes-cias-fuzzy-and-ambiguous-claims-russia-sought-influence-presidential-el) that Russia sought to influence the presidential elections, moments ago the NBC News reported (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-officials-putin-personally-involved-u-s-election-hack-n696146) that U.S. intelligence officials believe with "a high level of confidence" that Russian President Vladimir Putin became personally involved in the covert Russian campaign to interfere in the U.S. presidential election.

Perhaps because the official narrative has so far been unable to gather traction with the previous "shotgun approach" in which just "Russia" was accused of handing the election to Trump, four short days before the Electoral College vote, the narrative has changed and it now involves the very pinnacle of Russia's government: the president himself.

Citing two senior officials with direct access to the information, NBC reports that "new intelligence shows that Putin personally directed how hacked material from Democrats was leaked and otherwise used. The intelligence came from diplomatic sources and spies working for U.S. allies, the officials said."

So why did Putin hack a few million rust belt Americans into believing that their lives under Obama, and by extension Hillary, were bad enough that they demanded a change? NBC provides the following spoonfed logic:

Putin's objectives were multifaceted, a high-level intelligence source told NBC News. What began as a "vendetta" against Hillary Clinton morphed into an effort to show corruption in American politics and to "split off key American allies by creating the image that [other countries] couldn't depend on the U.S. to be a credible global leader anymore," the official said.

Ultimately, the CIA has assessed, "the Russian government wanted to elect Donald Trump."

And this is where the latest turn in the story falls apart, because even NBC - which will blast this report on prime time TV to all America - admits "the FBI and other agencies don't fully endorse that view", but it adds "few officials would dispute that the Russian operation was intended to harm Clinton's candidacy by leaking embarrassing emails about Democrats."

One can call them embarrassing emails, others see in the 50,000 emails released by Wikileaks much needed insight into the corruption of the Clinton team, not to mention the DNC; after all the only reason we know that the Democratic Party rigged the elections against Bernie Sanders (and cost the job of Debbie Wasserman Shultz) is because of those emails. Emails which, incidentally, Wikileaks has repeatedly denied originated from Russia, but as we said yesterday, it's Julian Assange's word against that of the US government.

Sadly, the other disclosures in the NBC report fail to tell us something we don't already know. Like, for example, providing actual evidence - that long awaited, missing link that would in fact confirm Russia is behind the hacking.

The latest intelligence said to show Putin's involvement goes much further than the information the U.S. was relying on in October, when all 17 intelligence agencies signed onto a statement attributing the Democratic National Committee hack to Russia.

The statement said officials believed that "only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities." That was an intelligence judgment based on an understanding of the Russian system of government, which Putin controls with absolute authority.

Because who needs evidence when judgment is enough, especially when the potential downside is a massive diplomatic scandal.

It gets better: "Now the U.S has solid information tying Putin to the operation, the intelligence officials say. Their use of the term "high confidence" implies that the intelligence is nearly incontrovertible."

What is this incontrovertible intelligence? It appears to be personal opinions of Putin the "despot."

"It is most certainly consistent with the Putin that I have watched and used to work with when I was an ambassador and in the government," said Michael McFaul, who was ambassador to Russia from 2012 to 2014.

"He has had a vendetta against Hillary Clinton, that has been known for a long time because of what she said about his elections back in the parliamentary elections of 2011. He wants to discredit American democracy and make us weaker in terms of leading the liberal democratic order. And most certainly he likes President-elect Trump's views on Russia," McFaul added. Clinton cast doubt on the integrity of Russia's elections.

What is the US response? "As part of contingency planning for potential retaliation against Russia, according to officials, U.S. intelligence agencies have stepped up their probing into his personal financial empire."

In other words, it appears that as punishment for Clinton losing the election, the US could actively crackdown on Putin's financial assets held anywhere around the globe:

American officials have concluded that Putin's network controls some $85 billion worth of assets, officials told NBC News.

A former CIA official who worked on Russia told NBC News that it's not clear the U.S. can embarrass Putin, given that many Russians are already familiar with allegations he has grown rich through corruption and has ordered the killings of political adversaries. But a currently serving U.S. intelligence official said that there are things Putin is sensitive about, including anything that makes him seem weak.

While we are confident that Putin has taken countermeasures against precisely this kind of contingency, what is scariest is the NBC report's conclusion:

"The former CIA official said the Obama administration may feel compelled to respond before it leaves office. "This whole thing has heated up so much," he said. "I can very easily see them saying, `We can't just say wow, this was terrible and there's nothing we can do.'"

Well, if Obama is truly getting involved, he has 4 days in which to turn 37 Republican electors against Trump. As for the potential fallout, which may include various forms of social conflict should the Trump victory be overturned in the 11th hour at the Electoral College, then Putin will truly win as a result of what may then follow.

Zero Hedge SOURCE (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-14/us-accuses-vladimir-putin-personal-involvement-election-hack)

Cidersomerset

15th December 2016, 22:46

Russia is not the source of DNC leaks to Wiki ....

Julian Assange is fine - see this post -

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1120801

Thanks fro heads up...

Sean Hannity FULL Interview with Julian Assange 12/15/16

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Published on 15 Dec 2016
Full Interview by based Sean Hannity with based Julian Assange

turiya

16th December 2016, 00:06

British Ambassador: A Wikileaks Operative:

SR #1400 – “I Was the WikiLeaks Contact for DNC Emails – Not Russia”

(Published on Dec 15, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGgo7YhybJo_________________________________
http://www.sandaretreats.com/images/press-release/daily-mail-screenprints.jpgEXCLUSIVE: Ex-British ambassador who is now a WikiLeaks operative claims Russia did NOT provide Clinton emails - they were handed over to him at a D.C. park by an intermediary for 'disgusted' Democratic whistleblowers (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4034038/Ex-British-ambassador-WikiLeaks-operative-claims-Russia-did-NOT-provide-Clinton-emails-handed-D-C-park-intermediary-disgusted-Democratic-insiders.html)

- Craig Murray, former British ambassador to Uzbekistan and associate of Julian Assange, told the Dailymail.com he flew to Washington, D.C. for emails
- He claims he had a clandestine hand-off in a wooded area near American University with one of the email sources
- The leakers' motivation was 'disgust at the corruption of the Clinton Foundation and the 'tilting of the primary election playing field against Bernie Sanders'
- Murray says: 'The source had legal access to the information. The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks'
- 'Regardless of whether the Russians hacked into the DNC, the documents Wikileaks published did not come from that,' Murray insists
- Murray is a controversial figure who was relieved of his post as British ambassador amid allegations of misconduct but is close to Wikileaks

By Alana Goodman In Washington, Dc For Dailymail.com
Published: 15:33 EST, 14 December 2016 |
Updated: 18:01 EST, 14 December 2016
A Wikileaks envoy today claims he personally received Clinton campaign emails in Washington D.C. after they were leaked by 'disgusted' whisteblowers - and not hacked by Russia.

Craig Murray, former British ambassador to Uzbekistan and a close associate of Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, told Dailymail.com that he flew to Washington, D.C. for a clandestine hand-off with one of the email sources in September.

'Neither of [the leaks] came from the Russians,' said Murray in an interview with Dailymail.com on Tuesday. 'The source had legal access to the information. The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks.'

His account contradicts directly the version of how thousands of Democratic emails were published before the election being advanced by U.S. intelligence.

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Craig Murray (left), former British ambassador to Uzbekistan and a close associate of Wikileaks founder Julian Assange (right), told the Dailymail.com that he flew to Washington, D.C. for a clandestine hand-off with one of the email sources in September

Murray is a controversial figure who was removed from his post as a British ambassador amid allegations of misconduct. He was cleared of those but left the diplomatic service in acrimony.

His links to Wikileaks are well known and while his account is likely to be seen as both unprovable and possibly biased, it is also the first intervention by Wikileaks since reports surfaced last week that the CIA believed Russia hacked the Clinton emails to help hand the election to Donald Trump.

Murray's claims about the origins of the Clinton campaign emails comes as U.S. intelligence officials are increasingly confident that Russian hackers infiltrated both the Democratic National Committee and the email account of top Clinton aide John Podesta.

In Podesta's case, his account appeared to have been compromised through a basic 'phishing' scheme, the New York Times reported on Wednesday.

U.S. intelligence officials have reportedly told members of Congress during classified briefings that they believe Russians passed the documents on to Wikileaks as part of an influence operation to swing the election in favor of Donald Trump.

But Murray insisted that the DNC and Podesta emails published by Wikileaks did not come from the Russians, and were given to the whistleblowing group by Americans who had authorized access to the information.

'Neither of [the leaks] came from the Russians,' Murray said. 'The source had legal access to the information. The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks.'

He said the leakers were motivated by 'disgust at the corruption of the Clinton Foundation and the tilting of the primary election playing field against Bernie Sanders.'

Murray said he retrieved the package from a source during a clandestine meeting in a wooded area near American University, in northwest D.C. He said the individual he met with was not the original person who obtained the information, but an intermediary.

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Murray claims he met with the person who passed the emails over
in a Washington, D.C. part near American University

His account cannot be independently verified but is in line with previous statements by Wikileaks - which was the organization that published the Podesta and DNC emails.

Wikileaks published the DNC messages in July and the Podesta messages in October. The messages revealed efforts by some DNC officials to undermine the presidential campaign of Sen. Bernie Sanders, who was running against Hillary Clinton.

Others revealed that Clinton aides were concerned about potential conflicts and mismanagement at the Clinton Foundation.

Murray declined to say where the sources worked and how they had access to the information, to shield their identities.

He suggested that Podesta's emails might be 'of legitimate interest to the security services' in the U.S., due to his communications with Saudi Arabia lobbyists and foreign officials.

Murray said he was speaking out due to claims from intelligence officials that Wikileaks was given the documents by Russian hackers as part of an effort to help Donald Trump win the U.S. presidential election.

'I don't understand why the CIA would say the information came from Russian hackers when they must know that isn't true,' he said. 'Regardless of whether the Russians hacked into the DNC, the documents Wikileaks published did not come from that.'

Murray was a vocal critic of human rights abuses in Uzbekistan while serving as ambassador between 2002 and 2004, a stance that pitted him against the UK Foreign Office.

He describes himself as a 'close associate' of Julian Assange and has spoken out in support of the Wikileaks founder who has faced rape allegations and is currently confined to the Ecuadorian embassy in London.

Assange has similarly disputed that charges that Wikileaks received the leaked emails from Russian sources.

'The Clinton camp has been able to project a neo-McCarthyist hysteria that Russia is responsible for everything,' Assange told John Pilger during an interview in November.

'Hillary Clinton has stated multiple times, falsely, that 17 US intelligence agencies had assessed that Russia was the source of our publications. That's false – we can say that the Russian government is not the source.'

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Murray suggested that John Podesta's emails might be 'of legitimate interest to the
security services' in the U.S., due to his communications with Saudi Arabia lobbyists and foreign officials

The Washington Post reported last Friday that U.S. intelligence agencies had 'identified individuals with connections to the Russian government who provided WikiLeaks with thousands of hacked emails.'

The paper said U.S. senators were presented with information tying Russia to the leaks during a recent briefing by intelligence officials.

'It is the assessment of the intelligence community that Russia's goal here was to favor one candidate over the other, to help Trump get elected,' a senior U.S. official familiar with the briefing told the Post. 'That's the consensus view.'

The paper said U.S. senators were presented with information tying Russia to the leaks during a recent briefing by intelligence officials.

'It is the assessment of the intelligence community that Russia's goal here was to favor one candidate over the other, to help Trump get elected,' a senior U.S. official familiar with the briefing told the Post. 'That's the consensus view.'

The Obama administration has been examining Russia's potential role in trying to influence the presidential election. Officials said Russians hacked the Republican National Committee, but did not release that information in a deliberate effort to damage Clinton and protect Donald Trump.

Several congressional committees are also looking into the suspected Russian interference.

While there is a consensus on Capitol Hill that Russia hacked U.S. political groups and officials, some Republicans say it's not clear whether the motive was to try to swing the election or just to collect intelligence.

'Now whether they intended to interfere to the degree that they were trying to elect a certain candidate, I think that's the subject of investigation,' said Sen. John McCain on CBS Face the Nation. 'But facts are stubborn things, they did hack into this campaign.'

President elect Donald Trump raised doubts about the reports and said this was an 'excuse' by Democrats to explain Clinton's November loss.

'It's just another excuse. I don't believe it,' said Trump on Fox News Sunday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD-SJWxZaHE

SOURCE (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4034038/Ex-British-ambassador-WikiLeaks-operative-claims-Russia-did-NOT-provide-Clinton-emails-handed-D-C-park-intermediary-disgusted-Democratic-insiders.html)

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http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/TRUMP_TWEETS/TRUMP_TWITTER_ICON_4.png (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/809403760099422208)
If Russia, or some other entity, was hacking,
why did the White House wait so long to act?
Why did they only complain after Hillary lost?

6:24 AM - 15 Dec 2016

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/809403760099422208)

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turiya

16th December 2016, 01:56

Gregory Mannarino Interview with Greg Hunter... everything Bullish except, of course, the Bond Market...

Gregory Mannarino-They Can't Have Real Money
Competing with Fake Money
(Published on Dec 11, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjJXytutmZk In closing, Mannarino contends,
“Everything has changed. The trajectory we were on was straight down a rat hole of epic proportions. We were on a path to wipe out the middle class. I think the game has changed. I think, moving forward, we are going to see a stronger dollar. We are going to see precious metals rise into that stronger dollar. Trump is extremely bullish for our economy.”

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Jim Willie Talks Trump at 17:21

Fed to Sabotage Trump Administration?
Jim Willie
(Published on Dec 8, 2016)
http://img.youtube.com/vi/A78saW7K4CQ/0.jpg
https://youtu.be/P9PKU-iSn0k?t=17m21s (https://youtu.be/P9PKU-iSn0k?t=17m21s)
Topics:

- The Fake Polls
- Hart''s Information Service
- Zero Hedge
- Clinton Foundation
- Bought Poll Results
- Millions of Dead People Voting
- Recounts
- A Problem in NYC
- Absentee Ballots for Hillary
- Democratics: Marxists, Fascists,
- Trump Cabinet - Consist of Several Pentagon Generals
- The Trump Plan
- Trump had to make Deals
- Trump TV
- Infrastructure $1 Trillion Needs Cooperation w/ the Fed
- Increased Exports Leads to Shortages within the Country
- Sabatoge to Come
- Wall St Under Attack by Trump?
- Rothschilds to Wreck Trump
- New Shyst Dollar
- The Global Currency Reserve
- In Conclusion, Jim Willie (whether he knows it or not) is describing Trump as the 'Grey Champion' talked about in the Fourth Turning (http://digitalcommons.pepperdine.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1604&context=leaven) - One who enters the American scene to do some unpopular things that are needed to hold the American Republic together.

Cara

16th December 2016, 03:34

Further to my post on the previous page (here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90590-Transition-into-Trump&p=1120644&viewfull=1#post1120644)), which contained some info on Tillerson - Trump's pick for Secretary of State - here is a fascinating article on the deep state factional fighting that this pick may signal.

From VISUP (http://visupview.blogspot.ae/):

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Tuesday, December 13, 2016
Knives Out (http://visupview.blogspot.ae/2016/12/knives-out.html)

It seems like every day now more signs emerge that the ongoing cold war among American power elites will inevitably turn hot at some point. As I'm sure many of you are aware, the CIA has come out and accused Russia of intervening in US elections in a bid to get The Donald elected. Not to be out done, The Donald fired back, questioning the credibility of the CIA after the Agency's total intelligence failure concerning WMDs in Iraq. Pundits now worried that Trump and the CIA are on a "collision course" as the FBI entered the fray, questioning the conclusions of their longtime rival.

While the knives coming out was probably unavoidable, the timing begs the question: what spurred the sudden CIA attack on Trump? Effectively accusing the president-elect of being in league with the Russians is provocative, to say the least, for an agency that prefers to stay in the shadows. This researcher suspects that this attack was spurred in part by another cabinet nominee that was leaked the same weekend the CIA accusations surfaced: potential Secretary of State Rex Tillerson.

Tillerson's name surfaced at a time when lawmakers already seemed poised to go on the attack at the prospect of General David Petraeus being given the nod. Nominally this was chalked up to the militarization of Trump's cabinet, but I suspect that the real objections centered upon the old boys network at the State Department feeling threatened. It is an open secret that the State Department has been dominated (some would say almost totally controlled) by the infamous Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the Atlanticist-centric foreign policy think tank that was established as part of the British Round Table network, for decades now. Typically a budding Secretary of State is groomed for such a position, initially in the Ivy Leagues, and later in one of the major foreign policy think tanks such as the CFR or Brookings.
...

Trump has really thrown down the gauntlet with Exxon CEO Tillerson. Tillerson has never attended the Ivy League and while having addressed the CFR before, does not appear to have ever been a member. He does, however, belong to one prominent foreign policy think tank linked to the Ivy League: the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), long based out of Georgetown (a school especially known for grooming national security hawks).
...

This is certainly not the standard background for a budding Secretary of State. But even more striking, however, is the hostility that Tillerson has drawn from the Rockefeller family. Back in 2008, when the Rockefeller family was pushing Exxon to acknowledge climate change and pursue alternative energy, Tillerson's position with the company also came under assault.
...

Despite the considerable push from the Rockefeller family, Tillerson was able to weather the storm. He would continue to serve as Exxon's chairman of the board and CEO for these past eight years and is now poised to enter the public sector as Secretary of State. He was also able to hold the fort on Exxon's efforts to develop alternative energy as well.

The bad blood between Exxon and the Rockefellers would continue, resulting in the family totally dumping its Exxon shares in 2016 and escalating their public relations campaign against the oil giant...
...

Effectively then under Tillerson's tenure as Exxon CEO he's faced an assault by the Rockefellers on his position, has faced a protracted propaganda campaign launched against his company by their very well-funded NGOs, the dumping of his stock by these NGOs and has now even launched a legal assault against said NGOs. It would certainly appear as though Tillerson has been engaged in a full scale war against the Rockefeller family, one in which he has been holding his own.

And this is the man Trump has tapped to take over the State Department, a longtime fiefdom of the Rockefeller family and the CFR clique surrounding them. This is clearly an affront to the longtime rulers of State. While Tillerson appears to be as staunch a free trader as anyone who has spoken before the CFR (and a TPP supporter to boot), he has also been a longtime climate change initiative foe and has very close ties to Putin. His appointment signals that two would-be wars State has been promoting --against climate change and Russia --are on hold with this appointment.

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The rest of the article is at VISUP (http://visupview.blogspot.ae/2016/12/knives-out.html) - I just pulled out some key paragraphs that convey the author's key insight. I recommend the whole article for a view of the deep state, Rockefeller interests, CFR etc.

turiya

16th December 2016, 14:59

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/TRUMP_TWEETS/TRUMP_TWITTER_ICON_4.png (https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/809739918847176708?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
Are we talking about the same cyberattack
where it was revealed that head of the DNC
illegally gave Hillary the questions to the debate?

3:09 AM - 16 Dec 2016

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/809717035353722880)

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Putin Lashes Out At Obama:
"Show Some Proof Or Shut Up" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-16/putin-lashes-out-obama-show-some-proof-or-shut)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Dec 16, 2016 9:09 AM
Putin has had enough of the relentless barrage of US accusations that he, personally, "hacked the US presidential election."

The Russian president's spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, said on Friday that the US must either stop accusing Russia of meddling in its elections or prove it. Peskov said it was "indecent" of the United States to "groundlessly" accuse Russia of intervention in its elections.

“You need to either stop talking about it, or finally show some kind of proof. Otherwise it just looks very indecent”, Peskov told Reporters in Tokyo where Putin is meeting with Japan PM Abe, responding to the latest accusations that Russia was responsible for hacker attacks.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2016/11/29/putin%20obama%20staredown_0.jpg

Peskov also warned that Obama's threat to "retaliate" to the alleged Russian hack is "against both American and international law", hinting at open-ended escalation should Obama take the podium today at 2:15pm to officially launch cyberwar against Russia.

Previously, on Thursday, Peskov told the AP the report was "laughable nonsense", while Russian foreign ministry spox Maria Zakharova accused "Western media" of being a "shill" and a "mouthpiece of various power groups", and added that "it's not the general public who's being manipulated," Zakharova said. "the general public nowadays can distinguish the truth. It's the mass media that is manipulating themselves."

Meanwhile, on Friday Sergei Lavrov, Russia's foreign minister told state television network, Russia 24, he was "dumbstruck" by the NBC report which alleges that Russian President Vladimir Putin was personally involved in an election hack.

The report cited U.S. intelligence officials that now believe with a "high level of confidence" that Putin became personally involved in a secret campaign to influence the outcome of the U.S. presidential election. "I think this is just silly, and the futility of the attempt to convince somebody of this is absolutely obvious," Lavrov added, according to the news outlet.

As a reminder, last night Obama vowed retaliatory action (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-15/obama-vows-retaliation-against-russia-hacking-hold-press-conference-tomorrow) against Russia for its meddling in the US presidential election last month. "I think there is no doubt that when any foreign government tries to impact the integrity of our elections that we need to take action and we will at a time and place of our own choosing," Obama told National Public Radio.

US intelligence agencies in October pinned blame on Russia for election-related hacking. At the time, the White House vowed a "proportional response" to the cyberactivity, though declined to preview what that response might entail. Meanwhile, both President-elect Donald Trump, the FBI, and the ODNI (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-12/top-us-spy-agency-refuses-endorse-cias-russian-hacking-assessment-due-lack-evidence) have dismissed the CIA's intelligence community's assessment, for the the same reason Putin finally lashed out at Obama: there is no proof.

That, however, has never stopped the US from escalating a geopolitical conflict to the point of war, or beyond, so pay close attention to what Obama says this afternoon.

According to an NBC report (http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/16/kremlin-says-washington-must-prove-hacking-accusations-or-shut-up.html), a team of analysts at Eurasia Group said in a note on Friday that they believe the outgoing administration is likely to take action which could result in a significant barrier for Trump's team once he takes office in January.

"It is unlikely that U.S. intelligence reports will change Trump's intention to initiate a rapprochement with Moscow, but the congressional response following its own investigations could obstruct the new administration's effort," Eurasia Group analysts added.

At the same time, Wikileaks offered its "validation" services, tweeting that "Obama should submit any Putin documents to WikiLeaks to be authenticated to our standards if he wants them to be seen as credible."

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/WIKILEAKS_TWE/WIKILEAKS_TWITTER_ICON.png (https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/809739918847176708?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
Obama should submit any Putin documents
to WikiLeaks to be authenticated to our standards
if he wants them to be seen as credible.

4:40 AM - 16 Dec 2016

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/809739918847176708?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

We doubt Obama would take the whistleblower organization on its offer, even if he did have any Putin documents to authenticate.

ZERO HEDGE SOURCE (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-16/putin-lashes-out-obama-show-some-proof-or-shut)

turiya

16th December 2016, 17:57

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Understanding the Trump Phenomenon (https://mises.org/blog/understanding-trump-phenomenon)

12 hours ago
Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr (https://mises.org/profile/llewellyn-h-rockwell-jr).

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Amid all the hysteria surrounding Donald Trump, clear and sober analyses of who he is and what to expect have been few and far between.

I’ve already seen numerous progressives warning that Trump intends to eviscerate entitlements. It’s as if facts never enter the progressive consciousness. Their opponents are an undifferentiated blob and hold what progressives take to be generically right-wing positions.

Only this robotic approach to politics can account for why progressives seem to think Donald Trump, by far the most pro-LGBT GOP nominee in history, intends to harm homosexuals, or that despite his repeated assurances that he wants nothing more than to shore up entitlements, he intends to cut them sharply.

As anyone who isn’t tone deaf when it comes to American politics knows, nobody in public life favors cutting back entitlements. What the left has to worry about isn’t budget-cutting Republicans. It’s making complete fools of themselves with hysterical predictions anyone in his right mind knows will never come true.

For one thing, to think Trump’s aim is to eviscerate entitlements is to misunderstand the Trump phenomenon altogether.

During the presidential campaign, a number of observers, trying to understand the Trump phenomenon, suddenly discovered the work of Sam Francis, an author and newspaper columnist, from 25 years earlier. Francis wrote about what he called Middle American Radicals (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_T._Francis) (MARs).

The MARs hold political correctness in precisely the same contempt that Hollywood, the media, and the political class hold them. They are not rigidly ideological, nor even ideological at all. While in general, they support private property and the US Constitution, they are not philosophically opposed to business regulation, they believe free trade has made them worse off, and they have no interest at all in cutting Social Security and Medicare. And they are anti-globalist.

At the time Francis wrote about them, his analysis seemed off: if these people existed in the numbers he suggested, how were people like Bob Dole getting the GOP nomination?

The 2016 election, at last, vindicated the Francis analysis. The MARs came out in droves, despite the most relentless attack on their candidate by the media and cultural elite anyone can remember.

Now in this non-libertarian milieu, what might a libertarian reasonably hope for, while of course bracing himself for the usual horrors? Primarily these:

(1) de-escalation of tension with Russia;
(2) lower corporate taxes;
(3) regulatory relief.

In a speech just days ago, Trump summarized his foreign policy. He still wants to fight ISIS. But he went on to say, “We will pursue a new foreign policy that finally learns from the mistakes of the past. We will stop looking to topple regimes and overthrow governments, folks.”

Now you might think a speech so at odds with the past half-century of bipartisan interventionism would get some media attention and be discussed for days.

You’d think that if you’d had no previous exposure to the American media. That aspect of the speech was picked up on by the alt-media, and that’s about it.

But more than that, Trump’s election destroyed two American crime families in one fell swoop: the Clintons and the Bushes. If you’re not cheering this, you darn well should be.

Then, too, the Trump phenomenon brought media bias into the open more starkly than ever. There are people who think second- and third-generation Mexican-American citizens are about to be deported, or who actually fear the confinement of blacks and homosexuals in camps. That didn’t come from anything Trump said. That is entirely the work of the media and the Social Justice Warriors.

Speaking of the SJWs, the lunacy on the campuses is being captured on YouTube for normal people to see. The SJWs are trying to portray themselves as victims of Trump’s authoritarian followers. But how many of their professors have had their lectures disrupted?

How many Bernie or Hillary rallies had to be canceled out of security fears?

How many people have been beaten up for wearing a Hillary hat? (All right, that one wasn’t fair: no one has ever worn a Hillary hat.)

When was the last time an SJW event was disrupted by libertarians or conservatives?

Teachers — even entire teachers’ unions — have distributed anti-Trump curricula for use in the government’s schools. When was the last time anti-Democrat curricula were proposed for use in government schools?

And let me recall: which candidate was it whose party was caught on tape describing its practice of hiring provocateurs to try to provoke violence?

The violent behavior not of Trump supporters — the alleged wave of Trump-inspired hate crimes being a figment of the media’s imagination — but of Trump opponents is on full display.

In other words, we find in the left every single feature it claims to find in Trump supporters — intolerance, hatred of people unlike themselves, authoritarianism, closed-mindedness, and an appetite for violence.

And this has all been exposed more clearly than ever before for the general public to see.

To get to where we want to go, the American political class has to be hit hard, and the media and the universities need to be exposed for the propaganda factories they are.

Has Trump accomplished these tasks completely and perfectly? Obviously not. As his appointments show, he himself remains far too attached to the establishment he seemed to be railing against. And apart from a few high-profile opinions, his approach to government is, after all, pretty conventional, though the media and the academics can’t bring themselves to admit it.

That’s because, as we’ve said all along, Trump is obviously not a libertarian. Neither are most Americans.

So the Trump years will, no doubt, include their share of statist idiocy and outrages. That’s been true of every presidential administration any of us living today can remember.

But it’s unreasonable to expect the changes we hope for to occur according to a neat playbook. Presumably, we all assumed that before we could reach the libertarian goal we’re striving for, the major institutions that have poisoned the public mind against liberty would have to be shaken up, and the public alerted to their true nature, one way or another.

That process is being at least partly accomplished, and it’s all to the good. That doesn’t make Trump a libertarian. But it does make the discomfort and horror of the elites something to cheer.

SOURCE (https://mises.org/blog/understanding-trump-phenomenon)

norman

16th December 2016, 19:07

onawah

16th December 2016, 19:53

That's hilarious! :lol: :jester:

.........Russian foreign ministry spox Maria Zakharova accused "Western media" of being a "shill" and a "mouthpiece of various power groups", and added that "it's not the general public who's being manipulated," Zakharova said. "the general public nowadays can distinguish the truth. It's the mass media that is manipulating themselves."

This point is so worthy of repetition.

turiya

16th December 2016, 19:58

.........Russian foreign ministry spox Maria Zakharova accused "Western media" of being a "shill" and a "mouthpiece of various power groups", and added that "it's not the general public who's being manipulated," Zakharova said. "the general public nowadays can distinguish the truth. It's the mass media that is manipulating themselves."

This point is so worthy of repetition.

Thanks norman. I went back & underlined & emphasized this line..

Also President gives a News Conference on this...

President Obama Holds a Press Conference
(Video is not able to post, here - click on link below)

VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dfh342F96fs

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In Summary...
http://legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Hacked.jpg

turiya

16th December 2016, 22:56

Perhaps, some may consider this a side issue... it is Not! Because it also involves Politics & a Main Stream Media (MSM) cover-up!

It regards a recent press conference regarding the investigation of the Obama Birth Certificate... the Fake Obama Birth Certificate...

Sheriff Joe Arpaio Releases New Information
on President Obama's Birth Certificate
(Published on Dec 15, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk3KRxTfkLM

norman

17th December 2016, 00:20

It's all a mind screw on the electors. The Obama press conference was a pity fest trying to get the electors to feel sympathy and swing them against voting for Trump.

They've realised that threatening them won't work so they are trying the opposite tack.

"Oh we were SO GOOD to allow it to happen because we were determined to make sure the election process was straight and fair"

ARRGGGHH !.... ANYTHING but the crookery in the emails.

Why has Obama timed this right before the electors meet ?

This Friday's Alex Jones Show is well worth a listen, even for people who normally don't like his style. Steve Pieczenik sounds very confident.

turiya

17th December 2016, 03:01

Here's Alex 'The-Bull-in-the-China-Shop' Jones (Infowars) touching base with Roger Stone, and then Steve Pieczenik - getting their take on what will be happening next - just prior to Obama's 'The Russians Did It' Final Press Conference...

Starts off with Donald Trump Press Conference - saying, "Nobody knows if it was the Russians!" at 1:26:00

Alex Jones Friday 12/16/16:
Roger Stone, Steve Pieczenik
(Published on Dec 16, 2016)

Video: https://youtu.be/W2Scn8cOr6Y?t=1h26m

norman

17th December 2016, 03:49

It's interesting that Trump ( according to Steve Pieczenik ) has already gone for the throats of Boeing and the makers of the F35. I think they are both heavily into the secret space corporation.

KiwiElf

17th December 2016, 08:10

It's interesting that Trump ( according to Steve Pieczenik ) has already gone for the throats of Boeing and the makers of the F35. I think they are both heavily into the secret space corporation.

The evidence would indicate this to be correct Norman - most of the larger aerospace companies are; add to that Northrop, Lockheed Martin, EADS (France = Airbus Group)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_Group

& Raytheon etc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raytheon

Many others were listed in "The Day After Roswell", downloadable here: (quite a list,.. and that was almost two decades ago!) ;)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9462-Interesting-Free-Books-in-PDF&p=639117#post639117

turiya

17th December 2016, 13:10

Greg Hunter gives his Weekly News Wrap-Up... you may want to pay particular attention to Greg [21:22] when he gets into what Seymour Hersh had reported on back some time ago about the CIA backing al Qaeda / ISIS a.k.a. 'the Syrian Rebels', who Hersh reported were up against the Pentagon - talk about a serious divide within the U.S. Intelligence - as it appears to be what is coming out with this new hot topic - "The Russians Did It" meme... See Post #1543 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90590-Transition-into-Trump&p=1121279&viewfull=1#post1121279)

Greg Hunter--Weekly News Wrap-Up
12.15.2016

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq5LZelhPEc

mgray

17th December 2016, 14:41

BMJ

17th December 2016, 15:41

My Administration will follow two simple rules: BUY AMERICAN and HIRE AMERICAN!

Link: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

You have to love a comment like that.

People maybe cynical because it's hard too believe Trump could be genuine and bring real change.

But I am hopeful he will be the genuine catalyst for change both national and globally.

Keep in mind:
- He's not bought and paid for by the Saudi's, China or anyone else:
- The people he has picked for his cabinet, he picked because of their experience, credentials and contact network;
- That he is a successful businesses man and "not a career politican", so running a country successfully is just a step up from running a business successfully;
- Seems to want to nuture a Russian relationship and quash any idea of WW3;
- Eliminate the tptw fuelled terrorist industry;
- Make the crime families accountable for their actions;
- He wants to rebuild America's prosperity;
- Also he is not a lizard like every other president, LOL, well Bill Tompkinson said that in his second interview with Kerry Cassidy.

Also a thought, is it not possible that all the exposure of the hidden and secret that we individual and collectively have investigated and sought to speak of publicily, all the whistleblowers, white hats, alternative media and starseeds have been working towards has accumulated enough positivity to result in political change and allow someone like Trump to come forward and bring genuine change.

I hope so.

I will withhold my judgement, and wait and see.

turiya

17th December 2016, 22:01

This presidential transition is one for the ages.

Outgoing President Obama held his last press conference on Friday. Near the top of the Q&A, Obama stated: The US intelligence I have seen “gives me great confidence” that Russia hacked the Democratic National Committee and the email account of Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, John Podesta.

More (http://wp.me/ppklu-Lu)

Good one mgray. With your permission, I think I will expand on this...

Peaceful transfer of power — Not (https://mgray12.wordpress.com/2016/12/17/peaceful-transfer-of-power-not/)
December 17, 2016 · by Michael Gray
This presidential transition is one for the ages.

Outgoing President Obama held his last press conference on Friday. Near the top of the Q&A, Obama stated: The US intelligence I have seen “gives me great confidence” that Russia hacked the Democratic National Committee and the email account of Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, John Podesta.

“This happened at the highest levels of the Russian government,” the president said.

“I will let you make that determination as to whether there is high-level Russian officials who go off rogue and decide to tamper with the U.S. election process without Vladimir Putin knowing about it.”

No proof needed because he is preaching to the choir of White House press corps, who would not challenge Obama to provide details on his charge.

Ironically the Russian government is the only one talking about this.

The U.S. “should either stop talking about it or finally produce some evidence; otherwise it looks highly unseemly,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov on Friday said of the Obama administration’s accusation according to Russian state news agencies.

Okay, let’s move on to Michelle Obama.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9nYNrP2kUz8/T0K4KFlNZBI/AAAAAAAAGac/I8LYrDcfAzo/s1600/michelle-obama-vacation.jpg

The outgoing First Lady and possible Democratic presidential candidate in 2020, came out Friday and said “Hope is lost.”

What a lovely holiday sentiment for the country.

It’s questionable what the their motive is for these recent actions. I’m not going to speculate on motive, but these actions in the least show they are sore losers. At the upper end of the case you could say these statements are evidence of psychopathic, egotistical actions.

I suppose the election was proof-positive that America repudiated Obama’s eight years of economic malaise. America wanted to move away from placating the few at the expense of the many.

Perhaps someone should point out to the White House — including the Press Secretary Josh Earnest — we have a long history of making sure there is a peaceful transfer of power and you don’t want your legacy to one of thwarting that.

mgray SOURCE (https://mgray12.wordpress.com/2016/12/17/peaceful-transfer-of-power-not/)

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The Truth About Russia Hacking
The Election For Donald Trump
(Published on Dec 15, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbTNGN6ikb0

turiya

17th December 2016, 23:02

Trump Wins In Court
The Electors, and Obama Upset
That They Must Follow The Rules
(Published on Dec 17, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDFKN5FmgF8________________________________

BuzzFeedNEWS

Courts Hand Losses To Electors
In Anti-Trump Movement (https://www.buzzfeed.com/zoetillman/courts-hand-losses-to-electors-in-anti-trump-movement?utm_term=.fxEKMOpmmD#.osMyeZOwwP)

posted on Dec. 16, 2016, at 7:16 p.m
Zoe Tillman (https://www.buzzfeed.com/zoetillman?language=en)
BuzzFeed News Reporter
Electors hoping to convince their peers not to vote for Donald Trump lose requests for court orders that would block state laws requiring electors to vote for the winner of the popular vote

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Two federal courts and a state supreme court on Friday handed losses to members of the electoral college who are seeking the right to vote for a presidential candidate of their choice, as opposed to the candidate who won the popular vote in their state.

The cases involve states that Hillary Clinton won in November — California, Colorado, and Washington — but they’re part of a broader effort to embolden electors elsewhere who may want to vote against Donald Trump in states that he won. A favorable ruling for challengers in one court could provide a template for electors who want to challenge similar laws in their state.

With electors nationwide set to meet on Monday in their states to vote for the president and vice president, a federal district judge in San Jose, California, and a three-judge panel of the US Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit on Friday denied requests to block enforcement of laws in California and Washington that require electors to vote for the winner of the popular election in those states.

The Colorado Supreme Court on Friday declined to hear a case brought by electors in that state, leaving in place a lower court judge’s ruling against the electors. A case in federal court is pending.

Donald Trump won 306 electoral votes, compared with Hillary Clinton’s 232 votes. Anti-Trump electors and activists want to convince other electors not to vote for Trump in order to bring his total down below the threshold of 270 electoral votes that he needs to win. A tie would send the election to the US House of Representatives.

Not all states have laws that bind electors to the results of the popular vote, but California, Colorado, and Washington are among those that do. The electors suing in those states argue that the US Constitution gives them the right to vote for whichever candidate they believe is “fit and qualified” to be president.

In the California case, US District Judge Edward Davila wrote on Friday (https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3241954/12-16-16-Koller-Order.pdf) that the electors raised a “serious question” about the constitutionality of placing limits on how electors vote. But he found that the challengers failed to show that they would face “irreparable harm” — in this case, criminal prosecution — if the court didn’t act now and they voted for a candidate other than Clinton.

The challengers appealed late Friday to the Ninth Circuit.

In the Washington case, the electors who sued have said that they want to cast votes in a way that would hurt Donald Trump’s bid for the presidency because they believe he is unfit for the office. The Ninth Circuit said in a two-page order (https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3241956/12-16-16-9th-Circuit-Chiafolo-Order.pdf) on Friday that the challengers failed to show they were likely to succeed on their constitutional claims or that they would suffer irreparable harm absent immediate action by the court.

The Washington electors took the case to the Ninth Circuit after a federal district judge ruled against them (https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3241957/12-15-16-Chiafalo-Order.pdf) on Thursday. US District Judge James Robart found that most of the consequences the Washington electors said they feared they would face if they didn’t vote for Clinton—being removed as an elector and being fined $1,000 — were unsupported or contradicted by the law or the facts.

Sumeer Singla, a lawyer for the Washington electors, told BuzzFeed News that they haven’t decided yet whether to attempt to take the case to the US Supreme Court. A lawyer for the California electors was not immediately reached for comment.

In Colorado, a state court judge on Dec. 12 denied an injunction to electors challenging that state’s law. The Colorado Supreme Court on Friday declined to hear the case, leaving the lower court judge’s order in place.

The Colorado challengers have a separate case pending in federal court. A federal district judge on Dec. 12 denied their request (https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3241955/12-12-16-Baca-Order-Denying-TRO.pdf) for an order blocking the state from enforcing its elector voting law, and the Tenth Circuit has yet to rule on the challengers’ appeal.

Jason Wesoky, a lawyer for the Colorado electors, said that they were disappointed with the results in court so far, “but that doesn’t diminish our efforts.” It took courage for the electors to come forward, Wesoky said, and “we hope that a court has similar courage to take up this issue on its substance and its merits without dismissing it as a political stunt.”

UPDATE

The Tenth Circuit on Friday evening denied (https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3242035/12-16-16-Baca-Order.pdf) the Colorado electors’ request for an injunction. A three-judge panel found that the electors failed to point to specific provisions of the US Constitution that supported their argument, and didn’t show how they would suffer irreparable harm if the court denied their request for an emergency injunction. Dec. 16, 2016, at 10:19 p.m.

BUZZFEED NEWS SOURCE (https://www.buzzfeed.com/zoetillman/courts-hand-losses-to-electors-in-anti-trump-movement?utm_term=.fao3lMEVVw#.jjnvzWM77G)

ThePythonicCow

18th December 2016, 02:58

All this fits well with Ken's forecast. The various controversies over the Russians, various leaks and hacks, various allegations from the CIA of Russian hacking of the US election, Lawrence Lessig's (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-14/harvard-professor-says-hes-rallied-nearly-enough-gop-electors-block-trump) (a major power broker for decades) accumlating "faithless electors" to vote for someone else other than Trump, etc ... all seem to me a setup to get Congress, when they receive the letters from the Electoral College on Jan 6, 2017, to reject enough of the states electors to throw the election into controversy that would not be decided until after Jan 20, 2017.

Well, well ... looks like another forecast of mine is going to bite the dust.

I've been expecting, in line with Ken over at RedefingGod.com, that Trump's entry into the Whitehouse would be delayed past the usual 20 January, when Congress meets on January 6 to consider the letters from the Electoral College results.

However Lawrence Lessig has now admitted that his efforts to get Trump's electors to not vote for him are failing. As reported in the Zerohedge article Harvard Professor Admits His Efforts To Turn Electoral College Against Trump Have Failed Miserably (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-17/harvard-professor-admits-his-efforts-turn-electoral-college-against-trump-have-faile), Lessig states in a new interview:

“But I think that we are not going to see more than a handful who actually vote against Donald Trump unless that number climbs above 40. Because I think there are many people who think it is just not worth it given especially the pretty explicit threats that have been made against the electors who exercise their constitutional prerogative.”

turiya

18th December 2016, 14:14

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A CIA-led Coup
Against American Democracy
Is Unfolding Before Our Eyes (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/12/17/a-cia-led-coup-against-american-democracy-is-unfolding-before-our-eyes-paul-craig-roberts/)
— By Paul Craig Roberts
December 17, 2016
This article (below) by Moon of Alabama is not conspiracy theory (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/46056.htm). Read it carefully. Check out the links.

The below theses are thus far only a general outlay...

∘ There is an "elite" coup attempt underway against the U.S. President-elect Trump.
∘ The coup is orchestrated by the camp of Hillary Clinton in association with the CIA and neoconservative powers in Congress.
∘ The plan is to use the CIA's "Russia made Trump the winner" nonsense to swing the electoral college against him. The case would then be bumped up to Congress. Major neocon and warmonger parts of the Republicans could then move the presidency to Clinton or, if that fails, put Trump's vice president-elect Mike Pence onto the throne. The regular bipartisan war business, which a Trump presidency threatens to interrupt, could continue.
∘ Should the coup succeed violent insurrections in the United States are likely to ensue with unpredictable consequences.

No general plan has been published. The scheme though is pretty obvious by now. However, the following contains some speculation.

The priority aim is to deny Trump the presidency. He is too independent and a danger for several power centers within the ruling U.S. power circles. The selection of Tillerson as new Secretary of State only reinforces this (Prediction: Bolton will not get the Deputy position.) Tillerson is for profitable stability, not for regime change adventures.

The institutional Trump enemies are:

∘ The CIA which has become the Central Assassination Agency under the Bush and Obama administrations. Huge parts of its budgets depend on a continuation of the war on Syria and the drone assassination campaigns in Afghanistan, Pakistan and elsewhere. Trump's more isolationist policies would likely end these campaigns and the related budget troughs.
∘ The weapons industry which could lose its enormous sales to its major customers in the Persian Gulf should a President Trump reduce U.S. interference in the Middle East and elsewhere.
∘ The neoconservatives and Likudniks who want the U.S. as Israel's weapon to strong arm the Middle East to the Zionists' benefit.
∘ The general war hawks, military and "humanitarian interventionists" to whom any reduction of the U.S. role as primary power in the world is anathema to their believes.

Read more here (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/46056.htm)...

The article is a documented and accurate description of a coup that is underway. The extraordinary lies that are being perpetrated by the media and by members of the US government have as their obvious purpose the prevention of a Donald Trump presidency. There is no other reason for the extraordinary blatant lies for which there is not a shred of evidence. Indeed, there is massive real evidence to the contrary. Yet the coup proceeds and gathers steam.

President Eisenhower warned us more than a half century ago of the danger that the military/security complex presents to US democracy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY

In the decades since Eisenhower’s warning, the military/security complex has become more powerful than the American people and is demonstrating its power by overturning a presidential election.

Will the coup succeed?

In my opinion, former and present members of the US government and the media would not dare to so obviously and openly participate in a coup against democracy and an elected president unless they expect the coup to succeed.

It is an easy matter for the ruling interests to bribe electors to vote differently than their states. The cost of the bribes is miniscule compared to the wealth and income streams that a trillion dollar annual budget provides to the military/security complex. The fake news of a Putin/Trump election-stealing plot generated by unsupported allegations of present and former members of US intelligence, the lame-duck President Obama, and the presstitute media provide the cover for electors to break with precedent “in order to save America from a Russian stooge.”

The CIA-controlled European media, the politicians in Washington’s European vassal states, NATO officials, and the brainwashed European peoples will support the coup against Trump.

The only ones speaking against the coup are the voters who elected Trump—all of whom are alleged to have been deceived by Russian fake news— the Russian government, and the 200 websites falsely described by the Washington Post and the secret organization PropOrNot as Russian agents.

In other words, those objecting to the coup are the ones described by the coup leaders as those who made the coup necessary.

I do not know that the coup will succeed, but looking at the commitment so many high level people have made to the coup, I conclude that those bringing the coup expect it to succeed.

[I]Therefore, we should take very seriously the expectation of success that those who control levers of power are demonstrating. 

PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS / INFORMATION CLEARING HOUSE:
SOURCE (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/12/17/a-cia-led-coup-against-american-democracy-is-unfolding-before-our-eyes-paul-craig-roberts/)

Ewan

18th December 2016, 14:28

turiya

18th December 2016, 15:26

Here ya go Paul... Paul Craig Roberts & you seem to be on the same page....

However, my Source still continues to tell me differently - regarding Trump getting inagurated on 20th January...

Seems as though Steve Pieczenik's team - just perhaps - will be coming to the rescue with the counter-coup that he has talked about, will make its presence more known.... more wait & see with the drama on the rise...

_______________________

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Only a Counter-Coup
Can Save American Democracy
—By Paul Craig Roberts
December 17, 2016
The CIA has long engineered coups in other countries. Now we are approaching at breakneck speed a CIA coup in the USA.

When the presstitute media first published unverifired, unsourced leaks attributed to unnamed CIA officials, both the FBI and the Director of Homeland Security said that they did not embrace the accusation that Trump’s election was a result of Russian interference in the US presidential election.

Now suddenly we have a report (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-blames-putins-personal-grudge-against-her-for-election-interference/2016/12/16/12f36250-c3be-11e6-8422-eac61c0ef74d_story.html?utm_term=.dafe3032ae26) from the Washington Post, a rag whose integrity is in doubt and a mainstay of anti-Trump propaganda suspected of being a CIA asset, that the FBI and Homeland Security are in agreement with the anonymous leaks to the presstitutes:

“FBI Director James B. Comey and Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr. are in agreement with a CIA assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election in part to help Donald Trump win the White House, officials disclosed Friday, as President Obama issued a public warning to Moscow that it could face retaliation.

New revelations about Comey’s position could put to rest suggestions by some lawmakers that the CIA and the FBI weren’t on the same page on Russian President Vladimir Putin’s intentions.”

“The positions of Comey and Clapper were revealed in a message that CIA Director John Brennan sent to the agency’s workforce Friday. ‘Earlier this week, I met separately with FBI [Director] James Comey and DNI Jim Clapper, and there is strong consensus among us on the scope, nature, and intent of Russian interference in our presidential election,’ Brennan said, according to U.S. officials who have seen the message.”

Note, that this claim comes from the CIA. It has not been verified at this time of writing by the FBI and Homeland Security. Indeed, please note that the Washington Post, which is hyping this story of intelligence agency consensus, reports:

“The CIA and the FBI declined to comment on Brennan’s message or on the classified intelligence assessment that CIA officials shared with members of the Senate Intelligence Committee earlier this month, setting off a political firestorm.” In other words, the CIA might be putting words in the mouths of the other intelligence officials.

Note also that Hillary says that Putin interfered against her because he has a grudge against her for her interference in his reelection by fomenting protests against him with the Western-financed Russian NGOs. If what Hillary claims is correct, then any Russian interference, for which proof remains absent, was directed against Hillary in order to settle a score and has nothing to do with any Russian influence over Trump or 200 Internet sites as falsely and maliciously reported by the Washington Post.

All the CIA officials making claims of Russian interference, according to the Washington Post, continue to speak “on the condition of anonymity.”

So we have a coup against the president-elect based solely on unverified, unsourced, anonymous assertions made by the public knows not who.

Rep. Davin Nunes, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, which has oversight over the CIA, has said that neither he nor the committee have seen any evidence from the CIA in support of the claims he reads in the media. He has asked the agency to brief the Intelligence Committee on the alleged evidence but has had no response.

According to the Washington Post, “Nunes said: ‘We have not received any information from Intelligence Community (IC) agencies indicating that they have developed new assessments on this issue. I am alarmed that supposedly new information continues to leak to the media but has not been provided to Congress.’”

Rep. Nunes statement makes it completely clear that the CIA is using the presstitute media to launch a coup against president-elect Trump.

CIA director John Brennan’s audacity suggests that he expects the coup to succeed. Otherwise, he is dead meat along with Bezos, The Washington Post and the rest of the presstitute media.

Trump’s critics on the left and right and among the liberals and progressives have stupidly played into the CIA’s hands. I tried to warn them not to judge Trump by the past associations of his appointees as no change was possible without strong knowledgeable appointees. Those who romanticize Bernie Sanders are out to lunch. A person as weak as Sanders proved to be, completely collapsing in the face of his stolen presidential nomination by Hillary, could not possibly have prevailed over the powerful oligarchic groups that rule America. When we finally get a president-elect strong enough to bring change from the top down, the leftwing-liberal-progressive elements join the CIA in denouncing him!

If the generals Trump has announced as his appointees have been too marginalized within the military by the neoconservatives to be able to provide US military protection against the CIA’s coup against the president-elect, do not expect Donald Trump to be inaugurated as President of the United States on January 20.

We are at the point that only a countercoup against the CIA and the Hillary forces can save American democracy.

High treason is alive and well in the United States, and it is operating against American democracy and president-elect Trump.

Paul Craig Roberts SOURCE (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/12/17/only-a-counter-coup-can-save-american-democracy-paul-craig-roberts/)

turiya

18th December 2016, 15:49

Enter Steve Pieczenik...

Steve Pieczenik: Intelligence Agencies Soft-Coup Fizzles
Trump Inauguration on Track
(Published on Dec 18, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l42JsqOP30s___________________________________
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FBI backs CIA view
that Russia intervened to
help Trump win election (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-blames-putins-personal-grudge-against-her-for-election-interference/2016/12/16/12f36250-c3be-11e6-8422-eac61c0ef74d_story.html?utm_term=.2db1948f9423)

By Adam Entous and Ellen Nakashima
December 16 2016

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A view of the Kremlin in Moscow during a snowfall on Dec. 8.
(Maxim Shipenkov/European Pressphoto Agency)
FBI Director James B. Comey and Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr. are in agreement with a CIA assessment (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-review-of-russian-hacking-during-presidential-campaign/2016/12/09/31d6b300-be2a-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_russiahack-745p%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&tid=a_inl&utm_term=.709263c0bf12) that Russia intervened in the 2016 election in part to help Donald Trump win the White House, officials disclosed Friday, as President Obama issued a public warning to Moscow (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/12/16/obama-to-face-reporters-friday-at-his-final-year-end-news-conference/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_pp-obama-348pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&tid=a_inl&utm_term=.0f35c9e8c31e) that it could face retaliation.

New revelations about Comey’s position could put to rest suggestions by some lawmakers that the CIA and the FBI weren’t on the same page on Russian President Vladimir Putin’s intentions.

Russia has denied being behind the cyber-intrusions, which targeted the Democratic National Committee and the private emails of Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, John Podesta. Trump, in turn, has repeatedly said he doubts the veracity of U.S. intelligence (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/12/11/trump-denies-cia-report-russia-intervened-to-help-him-win-election/?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.8f2e700fd1b4) blaming Moscow for the hacks.

“I think it’s ridiculous,” Trump said in an interview with “Fox News Sunday,” his first Sunday news-show appearance since the Nov. 8 election. “I think it’s just another excuse. I don’t believe it. . . . No, I don’t believe it at all.”

At a “thank you” event Thursday night with some of her top campaign donors and fundraisers, Clinton said she believed Russian-backed hackers went after her campaign because of a personal grudge that Putin had against her. Putin had blamed Clinton for fomenting mass protests in Russia after disputed 2011 parliamentary elections that challenged his rule. Putin said Clinton, then secretary of state, had “sent a signal” to protesters by labeling the elections “neither free nor fair.”

The positions of Comey and Clapper were revealed in a message that CIA Director John Brennan sent to the agency’s workforce Friday.

“Earlier this week, I met separately with FBI [Director] James Comey and DNI Jim Clapper, and there is strong consensus among us on the scope, nature, and intent of Russian interference in our presidential election,” Brennan said, according to U.S. officials who have seen the message.

The CIA and the FBI declined to comment on Brennan’s message or on the classified intelligence assessment that CIA officials shared with members of the Senate Intelligence Committee earlier this month, setting off a political firestorm.

In the closed-door Senate briefing, CIA officials said it was now “quite clear” that electing Trump was one of Russia’s goals, according to the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters.

CIA and FBI officials do not think Russia had a “single purpose” by intervening during the presidential campaign, officials said. In addition to the goal of helping elect Trump, Putin aimed to undermine confidence in the U.S. electoral system, intelligence officials have told lawmakers.

A few days after the Senate briefing, a senior FBI counterintelligence official briefed the House Intelligence Committee but was not as categorical as the CIA briefer about Russia’s intention to help Trump, according to officials who were present. The FBI official’s more cautious presentation of the intelligence to the House panel left some Republican and Democratic lawmakers in the room with the impression that the FBI disagreed with the CIA....

MORE: SOURCE (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-blames-putins-personal-grudge-against-her-for-election-interference/2016/12/16/12f36250-c3be-11e6-8422-eac61c0ef74d_story.html?utm_term=.e7d606937400)

Alien Ramone

18th December 2016, 17:02

In a recent interview Kissinger seemed to be indicating that Trump will be given a chance to develop a program that is acceptable to the NWO, and if he doesn't, Trump's administration will be torn apart.

At 3:25 in the video below, Kissinger says "... one should not insist on nailing him into positions that he had taken in the campaign on which he doesn't insist. If he insists on them, then of course disagreements will become expressed, but if he develops another program and leaves the question open of what he said in the campaign, one should not make that the decisive element" and "I think we should give him an opportunity to develop the positive objectives that he may have and to discuss those, and we've gone through too many decades of tearing incumbent administrations apart, and it may happen again, but we shouldn't begin that way, and we shouldn't end up that way either, but so that would be my base issue."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za1WICCr9FY&t=0s

ThePythonicCow

18th December 2016, 18:16

Here ya go Paul... Paul Craig Roberts & you seem to be on the same page....
Well, I had abandoned my conspiracy theory, that the Trump election would be thrown into chaos, when Lessig said he was having trouble rounding up enough faithless electors.

But just now I noticed Paul Craig Roberts article on Zerohedge, as you posted above, and came here to post it. You already had posted it. Good. Roberts thinks there is still a danger here that the CIA led coup will find a way.

So ... I had fallen off that page ... but with Roberts' article, looks like I'm back on it :).

I wouldn't put it past Lessig to put out a false report that he was failing in his efforts, to get Trump supporters to lower their guard. Indeed, the cynic in me figures that the only time that Lessig would pretend to be failing would be if he was succeeding.

ThePythonicCow

18th December 2016, 18:54

“But I think that we are not going to see more than a handful who actually vote against Donald Trump unless that number climbs above 40. Because I think there are many people who think it is just not worth it given especially the pretty explicit threats that have been made against the electors who exercise their constitutional prerogative.”

Can you elaborate what he might have meant by that (bolded). Without any direct knowledge it just sounds like a twisted logic manifesting as sour grapes.

I am not aware of any other reports of such threats against faithless electors trying to keep them voting for Trump. I am aware of reports of just such kinds of threats against Trump's electors, trying to get them to turn against Trump, and become faithless.

I took Lessig's blaming threats for his failure to round up enough faithless electors to stop Trump to be the common tactic of blaming one's failures on the other side, accusing them of pretty much exactly whatever sinister deeds your side has been doing.

===

Given that it took me a few extra minutes to even write my thoughts accurately, with all the twists and turns, and given that I expect many readers will, quite reasonably, choose not to pay too close attention to these complications ... I can well imagine that in all this confusion it often work pretty well to accuse the other side of just what you've been doing wrong yourself.

Bob

18th December 2016, 20:14

National Guard will be deputized in DC to be able to arrest the anticipated protesters illegally trying to shut down, and disrupt the inauguration on the 20th of Donald Trump as 45th president of the United States.

http://www.wnd.com/2016/12/devious-plot-grows-to-shut-down-trumps-inauguration/

In a brazen statement this was said:

A group of leftist activists is plotting to “shut down” the inauguration of Donald Trump on Jan. 20 – forcing the president-elect to take his oath of office “behind closed doors” – “if Trump is to be inaugurated at all.”

The group, known as the D.C. Counter-Inaugural Welcoming Committee, or #DisruptJ20, says it calls on “all people of conscience to shut down the ceremonies.”

It continues, “If Trump is inaugurated at all, let it happen behind closed doors, showing the world that the vast majority of people in the U.S. do not support his presidency or consent to his rule.”

..all people of conscience.. hmmm

Seems that the False Flag being instituted by the Clinton Machine keeps trying to get people to look away from the illegal activities of the Clinton Foundation, the illegal activities of Hillary as US Secretary of State, and keep people looking the other way.. rabidly foaming at the mouth even, watching the diatribe in the MSM supporting the Clinton's and the elite machine which no doubt feels people have looked too closely, behind the curtain to see the inner working of "sausage making"...

http://www.readingeagle.com/ap/article/dc-readies-for-horde-of-inaugural-protesters

local and federal officials are preparing for upwards of a million people to pour into the nation's capital and replay some of that drama on Jan. 20, when Donald Trump takes the oath of office as the 45th president.

Officials say they are anticipating a larger-than-usual number of protesters this inauguration but are unsure of exactly what to expect as they converge with Trump supporters at the inaugural ceremony at the U.S. Capitol, the parade that will follow and several planned demonstrations.

But they say they'll be ready with thousands of police officers and National Guard members from across the country assigned to Washington for the weekend. D.C. hotels and rentals are filling up. And city officials are expecting more than 1,500 charter buses.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/07/14/judge-andrew-napolitano-hillary-clinton-and-personal-honesty.html

Judge Andrew Napolitano: Hillary Clinton and personal honesty..

The FALSE FLAG operation is designed to protect the administration (apparently), and Clinton from these allegations:

Clinton's persistent problems with personal honesty have brought her face to face with three more criminal investigations.

One is for public corruption.
The second is for perjury.
And the third is for misleading Congress.

"The Russian's did it"... take a close look at exactly who is pushing that and then dive deep into the Clinton Machine and the immense "swamp" that is being revealed by the actions of those pushing what amounts to what appears to be a gross spin of "news" to keep people fixated on anything BUT Clinton's "big 3" travesties. And those are BIG travesties.. Bigger than any political claim of "Russian Interference"..

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/14/craig-murray-says-source-of-hillary-clinton-campai/

WikiLeaks figure says ‘disgusted’ Democrat leaked Clinton campaign emails

Craig Murray, a former British ambassador to Uzbekistan and a close associate of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, said in the report by the Daily Mail that he flew to Washington for a clandestine handoff with one of the email sources in September.

He said he received a package in a wooded area near American University.

“Neither of [the leaks] came from the Russians,” Mr. Murray told the British newspaper. “The source had legal access to the information.

The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks.”

WikiLeaks published thousands of emails stolen from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, providing a steady stream of negative news coverage of the Democratic presidential nominee during the final weeks of the campaign.

Mr. Murray said the leakers were motivated by “disgust at the corruption of the Clinton Foundation and the tilting of the primary election playing field against Bernie Sanders.”

So as to manipulating the presidential race, what is being COVERED UP by the Clinton Machine is that the DNC did influence themselves.. NOT the Russians, unless there is something what we all need to know about Clinton Foundation donations received for "influence peddling" that has yet to be uncovered...

Ya.. we can only guess what Michelle said about 'not having hope'... if one can see the point being made here by Dr. Ben Carson:

http://i0.wp.com/www.bookwormroom.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Hillary-dishonest.png?resize=480%2C480

Russians did it? NSA can make IP addresses appear to come from anywhere... how far and deep does that swamp extend?

https://www.caida.org/funding/hijacks/hijacks_proposal.xml
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/11/rerouting_inter.html
http://research.dyn.com/2013/11/mitm-internet-hijacking/ - RE-ROUTING IP's - MITM route hijacking attack -
https://www.wired.com/2015/04/researchers-uncover-method-detect-nsa-quantum-insert-hacks/

http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/23565/intelligence/turkish-government-hijacking-dns.html

http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/blog/lists/posts/post.aspx?ID=249 - CHINA stands to benefit making it seem like "the Russian's did it"

For 18 minutes in April, China’s state-controlled telecommunications company hijacked 15 percent of the world’s Internet traffic, including data from U.S. military, civilian organizations and those of other U.S. allies.

This massive redirection of data has received scant attention in the mainstream media because the mechanics of how the hijacking was carried out and the implications of the incident are difficult for those outside the cybersecurity community to grasp, said a top security expert at McAfee, the world’s largest dedicated Internet security company.

In short, the Chinese could have carried out eavesdropping on unprotected communications — including emails and instant messaging — manipulated data passing through their country or decrypted messages, Dmitri Alperovitch, vice president of threat research at McAfee said.

Nobody outside of China can say, at least publicly, what happened to the terabytes of data after the traffic entered China.

Like Trump made it very, very perfectly clear, paraphrasing a bit, that anyone with the right tools can do whatever they want..

Said Alperovitch: “This is one of the biggest — if not the biggest hijacks (the CHINESE ATTACK) — we have ever seen.” And it could happen again, anywhere and anytime. It’s just the way the Internet works, he explained. “What happened to the traffic while it was in China? No one knows.”

"If Russia, or some other entity, was hacking, why did the White House wait so long to act? Why did they only complain after Hillary lost?" - Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 15, 2016

ThePythonicCow

18th December 2016, 20:39

Seems that the False Flag being instituted by the Clinton Machine keeps trying to get people to look away from the illegal activities of the Clinton Foundation, the illegal activities of Hillary as US Secretary of State, and keep people looking the other way.
Yeah - you might have gotten that exactly right :).

ThePythonicCow

18th December 2016, 22:43

This ABC News article explains what to expect tomorrow, Monday, December 19, 2016, when the Electoral College members meet in their various states to vote on who should be the next President and Vice President of the US: Electoral College: What to Know About Monday's Vote (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/electoral-college-mondays-vote/story?id=44265972).

The proceedings are open to the press, and over the day, the various states results will become publicly known. So by evening of Monday, Eastern US time, we'll know if there were enough faithless electors to change the expected result of a Trump victory.

(A tip of the hat to Ken, over at RedefiningGod.com, for the above ABC News link.)

Bob

18th December 2016, 23:04

The Washington TIMES (not the "Post") has an online survey:

Poll: Did Russia influence the election in favor of Donald Trump

Votes:
1197 (13%) yes they (the Russians) did
7948 (83%) no they (the Russians) did not
423 (4%) no idea (unsure)

Appears to be a good indication of what the popular feeling is, despite MSM efforts to convince the people otherwise..

http://www.washingtontimes.com/polls/2016/dec/12/did-russia-influence-election-favor-donald-trump/results/

turiya

19th December 2016, 00:07

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The Striking Audacity
of the Coup-in-Process (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/12/18/the-striking-audacity-of-the-coup-in-process-paul-craig-roberts/)
— By Paul Craig Roberts
Unsubstantiated stories have been planted throughout the presstitute media by anonymous CIA officials that Donald Trump’s electoral victory was the result of Russian intervention. This absurd claim has now been elevated to the even more absurd claim that Putin himself oversaw and even conducted the manipulation of the US presidential election.

No evidence has been provided for these amazing claims. The presstitutes are reporting unsubstantiated wild accusations that portend both a constitutional crisis in the US and a crisis with Russia. We know that the presstitutes lie. The presstitutes lied when they reported contrary to the weapons inspectors in Iraq that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. They lied about fake evidence of yellowcake and alumninum tubes. They lied about Saddam Hussein’s al-Qaeda connections. They lied about Iranian nukes despite the unanimous report of all US intelligence agencies that Iran had abandoned interest in nuclear weapons years ago. The presstitutes lied about Assad using chemical weapons against the Syrian people. They lied about Gadaffi. They lied about Russian invasion of Ukraine. They lied about the cause of the Russian/Georgian conflict. They lied about the Sochi Olympics. Now the presstitutes are claiming that Russian interference determined the outcome of the US presidential election and the Brexit vote.

As a result of the prestitutes’ lies, millions of peoples have been killed and dislocated. This blood is all on the heads of the American media. So we know for a proven fact that the US media has no integrity and no conscience.

Now the presstitutes have surpassed their previous level of criminality. They are part and parcel of fomenting a coup against the president-elect and throwing the country into a crisis of unknown proportion.

Tomorrow the Electoral College meets to cast the ballots for president. There is a well organized effort to disrupt this normally routine procedure. Based on CIA lies spread over the country by the presstitutes, 62 electors have requested a CIA briefing prior to the vote on Russian interference in the election. As there is no formal CIA report and no evidence in support of the allegations, the briefing would consist of the allegations.

A Harvard Law School professor, Lawrence Lessig, involved in the Stop-Trump movement, has promised free legal defense of electors who break with precedent and cast their votes differently from the majority vote of their states.

This effort, which presents a grave and continual threat to the Constitution, to domestic tranquility, and to international stability, is said in a nationwide media ad campaign to be necessary in order to block Trump from presenting “a grave and continual threat to the Constitution, to the domestic tranquility, and to international stability.”

Bloomberg:

Long-Shot to Block Trump Lands at Electoral College Monday (https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-12-15/long-shot-bid-to-block-trump-arrives-at-electoral-college-monday)

If the effort tomorrow fails, President Obama has put in motion a second shot at blocking Trump’s inauguration with his order to the CIA to produce a report on Russian election meddling prior to January 20. This report could be used to delay the inauguration or to convey to the Amerian public and peoples abroad so many doubts that Trump’s effectiveness as a leader would be undermined.

And of course, the constant assaults on Trump can result in his assassination by a “lone nut” patriot incensed over having in office a president declared by the New York Times to be a Putin stooge and useful idiot for the Russians. This is the newspaper of record’s characterization of the president chosen by the American people.

Professor Michel Chossudovsky of Global Research adds another dimension to the struggle—a fight between rival oligarchic interests. Trump and his announced Secretary of State want the business deals that result from normal relations with Russia. The military/security oligarchs want the immense budgets and power that comes from positioning Russia as a dire threat. Even if Trump survives the CIA’s challenge to his election, his cabinet appointees will have to survive confirmation fights and, if they do, ongoing challenges to their efforts to change policies from policies that favor oligarchs enriched by war to policies that favor oligarchs enriched by peace.

Prof Michel Chossudovsky:

U.S. Foreign Policy and the Electoral College Vote. Towards a December 19 Surprise? (http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-foreign-policy-and-the-electoral-college-vote-towards-a-december-19-surprise/5561928)

In other words, whatever the outcome tomorrow and January 20th, the fight is ongoing...

SOURCE (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/12/18/the-striking-audacity-of-the-coup-in-process-paul-craig-roberts/)

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. He was columnist for Business Week, Scripps Howard News Service, and Creators Syndicate. He has had many university appointments. His internet columns have attracted a worldwide following. Roberts' latest books are The Failure of Laissez Faire Capitalism and Economic Dissolution of the West (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/pages/books/the-failure-of-laissez-faire-capitalism-and-economic-dissolution-of-the-west/), How America Was Lost (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/pages/books/how-america-was-lost/), and The Neoconservative Threat to World Order (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/pages/books/the-neoconservative-threat-to-world-order/).

Bob

19th December 2016, 01:50

Here is one example of how the "spin" (?) is being presented - possibly to show (out of time sequence) how Clinton's DNC was "invaded" by Russian "Hackers"..

Russian hackers were able to access thousands of emails from the US Democratic National Committee after an aide typed the word “legitimate” instead of “illegitimate” by mistake, an investigation by the New York Times has found.

The revelation gives further credence to the CIA’s finding last week that the Kremlin deliberately intervened in the US presidential election to help Donald Trump. The president-elect has angrily denied the CIA’s assessment, calling it “ridiculous.”

In the run-up to the election, the DNC received numerous phishing emails, the paper reported on Tuesday. One of them was sent to John Podesta, the chairman of Hillary Clinton’s campaign. An aide, Charles Delavan, spotted the message sent to Podesta’s private account. It asked Podesta to change his password.

Delavan realized the email was a phishing attack and forwarded it to a computer technician. However, he made a typo, writing: “This is a legitimate email.” He added: “John needs to change his password immediately.”

The blunder gave Kremlin hackers access to about 60,000 emails in Podesta’s private Gmail account. According to US intelligence officials, Moscow then gave the email cache to WikiLeaks. The website released them in October, and the email scandal dominated the news cycle and was exploited by Trump.

The FBI had known for some time that Russia was making a wide-ranging and systematic attempt to hack US political institutions including the White House and the State Department, the paper reported. In September 2015 the FBI discovered that a cyber-espionage team linked to the Russian government had penetrated the DNC.

But instead of sending a top-level delegation and raising the alarm, the FBI got a single special agent to make a phone call. The agent, Adrian Hawkins, rang the DNC and was put through to the IT helpdesk. He told the tech-support contractor on duty, Yared Tamene, that a group called “the Dukes” had hacked the DNC’s computer networks.

According to the paper, Tamene thought Hawkins’s message might have been a prank call. He googled “Dukes” but found nothing. He then failed to alert senior staff after his cursory search of the DNC’s computer system logs revealed no obvious sign of an intrusion.

Hawkins rang back repeatedly over the next few weeks. Tamene, however, did not respond. “I did not return his calls, as I had nothing to report,” he wrote in a memo seen by the New York Times.

The FBI’s laid-back approach meant that Russian hackers were able to roam inside the DNC’s computer systems for almost seven months, before Democratic officials finally realized the gravity of the attack and brought in external cybersecurity experts.

In March 2016 a second Russian hacking group targeted the DNC. It sent hundreds of phishing emails, which began: “Someone just used your password to try to sign into your Google account.” One of the scam’s victims was Billy Rinehart, a former DNC regional field director, who clicked on the “change password” message while half asleep.

According to the New York Times, the Obama administration was slow to respond to the hacking threat, underestimated its seriousness and fluffed several opportunities to stop it. The resulting email furor damaged Clinton’s election prospects and helped Trump to victory, as the Kremlin had almost certainly intended.

see: http://www.cio-today.com/article/index.php?story_id=101000069011 for the 'rest of the story' ...

After the data breach the DNC hired CrowdStrike, a cybersecurity company.

It quickly established the hack had originated in Russia and identified two groups, Cozy Bear and Fancy Bear.

Cozy Bear, linked to Russia’s FSB spy agency, had begun its phishing operation in summer 2015, the paper reported.

Fancy Bear joined the attacks in March 2016. The hacking group is linked to the GRU, Russian military intelligence. It was Fancy Bear that hacked Podesta’s email account, the paper said.

Who is Cozy Bear - http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cozy-bear-explained-what-you-need-know-about-russian-hacks-n648541

How worried is the NSA about the hacking?
A wide range of intelligence and law enforcement officials have told NBC News that the recent attacks and the threat of escalation are what keep them up at night, especially the question of what other systems might be penetrated.

Lisa Monaco, the top White House adviser on homeland security, said at a conference on Wednesday that the U.S. is responding to the Russian cyberattacks with the same framework it uses to combat terrorism.

And NSA chief Mike Rogers told Congress this week the hacking is "an issue of great focus" and that spy agencies are actively concerned that Russian might try to disrupt the presidential election.

and

Fancy Bear, also known as APT 28, has been tied to most of the Russia hacks garnering headlines of late, including against the World Anti-Doping Agency and the Democratic Party. U.S. security officials say it has links to GRU, Russia's foreign military intelligence agency

Cozy Bear, which is sometimes called APT 29, was blamed for the hacks of the White House, Joint Chiefs of Staff and State Department. It's believed to be tied to the FSB, Russia's internal security service. The Russians are believed to be using other groups like Anonymous Poland, Guccifer 2.0 and DCLeaks to make their plunder public, investigators say.

We have to thank NBC NEWS (MSM) for the above explanation :) http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cozy-bear-explained-what-you-need-know-about-russian-hacks-n648541

turiya

19th December 2016, 02:24

You mean all those phishing / scamming emails that I've been getting for the past 2 years, trying to get me to "verify" my email account by providing my password, because of noted suspicious activities, under the threat of closing my account if I don't comply - you mean... those emails were really coming from Russia... i.e. Russian hackers???

doh! I guess I shouldn't have been so quick to delete those emails... Just going to have to be paying better attention....

________________________________

Judge Jeanine Pirro - Newt Gingrich
On Alleged Russian Hacking
(Published on Dec 17, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZbm5AV4RXc

turiya

19th December 2016, 02:37

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(12/12/2016)
Hour 2 - Jon Rappoport -
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turiya

19th December 2016, 13:46

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Coup Or No Coup: What To Watch For
As The Electoral College Votes On Monday (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-18/coup-or-not-signs-watch-electoral-college-votes-tomorrow)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Dec 19, 2016 5:28 AM
With even Harvard's Larry Lessig admitting that his efforts to flip the Electoral College against Trump have failed miserably (see "Harvard Professor Admits His Efforts To Turn Electoral College Against Trump Have Failed Miserably" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-17/harvard-professor-admits-his-efforts-turn-electoral-college-against-trump-have-faile)), it's a near certainty that Trump will, in fact, be elected President when the Electoral College casts their votes tomorrow.

That said, there could always be surprises and, as such, The Hill has published a list of five things you should keep an eye on as electors get set to cast their ballots. First, here is how the 538 electors should cast their ballots if they all strictly follow the will of the voters in their respective states.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user230519/imageroot/2016/12/17/2016.12.18%20-%20EC%201_0.JPG

That said, we know that at least one Texas elector, Chris Suprun, has vowed to go rogue tomorrow and anxious eyes will be waiting to see if anyone decides to join him. As The Hill points out, there hasn't been an election since 1836 in which more than 1 elector changed his vote, so even 2 defectors would make history.

There’s no evidence of a widespread number of Republican defections—just one Republican elector from Texas has gone public with plans to break from Trump.

But there hasn’t been an election in which more than one elector jumped ship for reasons other than the death of a candidate since 1836, according to the nonprofit FairVote. So a defection by even one more Republican elector would make history.

The next thing to watch is whether any Democrat electors will cast protest votes. A small group of Democratic electors had vowed to join Larry Lessig's coup attempt by throwing their support behind an alternative Republican candidate. While this now seems like a remote possibility, it is something to watch for.

Democratic electors are the ones beating the drums for the revolt, yet they’re largely powerless to change the outcome.

A handful of electors are already planning on uniting around a Republican alternative as a protest, but it’s still unclear how many are willing to join the protest.

In theory, a unified front of the 232 Democrats could join with 38 Republicans to elect an alternative president. But in practice, the anti-Trump electors will be lucky if more than a dozen Democrats break.

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With 29 states and the District of Columbia binding their electors by law, it will also be interesting to see if anyone in those states choose to defect, and if so, what penalties will be levied upon them.

The country’s presidential electors are chosen through different methods across the country—some are elected directly while others are picked by the candidates themselves or by the state party.

Bucking their jurisdiction’s votes could also have consequences for faithless electors. 29 states and the District of Columbia bind their electors by law, mostly with small fines as retribution for going rogue. No faithless electors have ever been punished, so political junkies will be watching to see if that changes.

Finally, when all the voting is said and done, all eyes will be watching how the candidates and their respective parties react. Will Trump launch a massive tweet storm blasting "faithless electors" and/or will Democrats finally tone down the "Russian hacking" rhetoric and calls to scrap the Electoral College system? Somehow we suspect that finally admitting they ran a failed candidate that was doomed to lose from the start is not a viable alternative for the talking heads of the leftist media...so we're somewhat less than hopeful.

SOURCE (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-18/coup-or-not-signs-watch-electoral-college-votes-tomorrow)

turiya

19th December 2016, 17:54

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Wayne MADSEN
18.12.2016 | OPINION

CIA Meddles in US Election
As it Has in Countless Foreign Polls
(http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/12/18/cia-meddles-us-election-as-has-countless-foreign-polls.html)
Never has the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency so blatantly involved itself in an American election. However, the agency has a rich history of interfering in the elections of other nations, including Russia. The conclusions of an undisclosed CIA secret report on alleged Russian interference in the U.S. election has been summarily dismissed by the Director of National Intelligence, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and several retired U.S. intelligence officers as deeply flawed and a propaganda tool concocted by the highly-politicized CIA director John Brennan and his cronies.

Brennan and his clique have upped the ante by claiming, without a shred of evidence, that Russian President Vladimir Putin personally directed the hacking of computer systems linked to the U.S. election. NBC News, which has a long history of cooperation with the CIA going back to the days of RCA/NBC chairman David Sarnoff and his close friend CIA director Allen Dulles, dutifully reported Brennan’s outrageous claims as «news».

It is clear those former CIA officials who have lent credence to Brennan’s report would not have done so unless they received clearance from Brennan and his CIA to go public with their unfounded charges against Russia. Those who have echoed Brennan’s unfounded findings of election interference by Russia include former acting CIA director Michael Morell (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Morell); former CIA and National Security Agency director Michael Hayden (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hayden_(general)); former CIA director Leon Panetta (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Panetta); former CIA clandestine service agents Robert Baer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Baer); Evan McMullin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_McMullin) – a failed 2016 independent presidential candidate - and Glenn Carle (http://glenncarle.com/about-glenn/). However, for every ex-spook Brennan pulls out of his hat to accuse President-elect Donald Trump of being a «Russian agent», there are many more who have claimed that the CIA’s «proof» of Russian interference in the 2016 election is pure malarkey.

Brennan and his cabal of dark players know fully well that it is the CIA that has pioneered in the art and science of election manipulation. In 1996, it was Russia that bore the brunt of CIA election manipulation with its agents-of-influence in Moscow and other large cities, namely the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) and George Soros’s Open Society Institute and Foundation, engaged in political dirty tricks aimed at undermining the electoral chances of the Russian Communist Party presidential candidate Gennady Zyuganov.

The CIA, Soros’s operatives, and the NED printed and distributed fake campaign flyers claiming to have originated with the Zyuganov's campaign. The flyers advocated returning Russia to Stalinism and re-launching the Cold War against the West. The CIA and Soros dirty tricks operatives also announced to the press phony Zyuganov news conferences where no one showed up. The dirty tricks team also canceled reservations made by the Zyuganov campaign at hotels and public meeting halls. The CIA and their allies also helped to manipulate election returns and shaved votes from Zyuganov's total, particularly in Tatarstan and Bashkortostan. This helped the favored U.S. candidate, Boris Yeltsin, achieve a second-round victory of 54-to-40 percent over Zyuganov. In 2012, then-President Dmitry Medvedev said, «There is hardly any doubt who won [the '96 election]. It was not Boris Nikolaevich Yeltsin».

The CIA has been at the election manipulation game since its inception in 1947. In February 1948, a formerly Top Secret CIA document spelled out the efforts to be taken by the United States and its ambassador in Rome, James Dunn, in preparation for the April 1948 Italian election. Wheat shipments were to be increased from the United States to Italy to prevent a reduction in bread rations just prior to the election. U.S. military equipment was to be sent to Italy in the event martial law had to be declared if the Italian Communist Party, which had been in a coalition government with the Christian Democrats since 1944, was successful at the polls. Assisting this military effort was the political indoctrination of many Italian military officers and non-commissioned officers at military schools in the United States.

The CIA also directed a sharp stick at the Italian electorate, warning that Italians could not «combine the advantages of aid from the West with that of political safety and benefits from the Soviet Union». The CIA was worried that if the Soviet Union returned control of the city of Trieste to Italy and renounced Italy’s war reparations to the Soviet Union prior to the April election, the Italian Communist Party would reap the electoral benefits and be victorious.

The CIA’s political dirty tricks in Italy began in earnest when it covertly directed $1 million, contained mostly in «bags of money», to Christian Democratic politicians led by Prime Minister Alcide de Gaspari. The CIA used its front newspapers in Italy to publish forged letters, allegedly written by Italian Communist Party leaders, in an attempt to embarrass them publicly. Similarly, the CIA attempted to blackmail Italian Socialist Party leaders who were part of a Popular Front coalition with the Communists. The blackmail eventually led to a split within the Socialist Party ranks between party leader Pietro Nenni and anti-Communist leader Giuseppe Saragat. The CIA’s manipulation paid off when the Christian Democrats won 48.5 percent of the vote and formed a new government without Communist participation.

When, in 1978, it appeared that the Christian Democrats, led by former Prime Minister Aldo Moro, were prepared to enact a «historic compromise» to share political power with the Italian Communist Party, the CIA instructed its agents-of-influence within Italy and the Vatican, the so-called «Gladio» network, to arrange for Moro’s kidnapping and assassination and blame it on the leftist Italian Red Brigades. The CIA’s psychological operation designed to blame radical Communists for Moro’s death was successful when the Italian electorate voted overwhelmingly for a CIA-linked Christian Democratic faction opposed to any accommodation with the Communists. The CIA showed that it was not averse to political assassinations to achieve its electoral aims in other countries.

The CIA’s involvement by hook and by crook in the 1948 Italian election was repeated in numerous nations around the world. In 1964, the CIA ensured that the Chilean Popular Action Front (FRAP) Socialist presidential candidate Salvador Allende was defeated by the Christian Democratic leader Eduardo Frei. The CIA pumped $3 million into Frei’s campaign, mainly to generate anti-Allende propaganda. Allende lost the race with 38.6 percent of the vote to Frei’s 55.6 percent. In 1970, Allende won the presidential election with a slim 36.4 percent of the vote against the CIA-backed former president Jorge Alessandri. The CIA set about immediately to undermine Allende and on September 11, 1973, a CIA-backed military coup resulted in Allende’s assassination. The one thing that separates the CIA from other intelligence agencies that seek to influence elections, is that the CIA’s hands are always dripping with blood.

The 1956 election in Ceylon (now known as Sri Lanka) saw an unpopular United National Party led by pro-Western Prime Minister John Kotelawala lose to the leftist Sri Lanka Freedom Party led by Solomon Bandaranaike. Although the Kotelawala government had received the largesse of CIA aid funneled through the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development, it was not enough to save it from defeat by Bandaranaike’s socialists. The CIA merely set about the undermine Bandaranaike’s government with the icing on the cake being the prime minister’s assassination in 1959, allegedly by a Buddhist monk who hid a revolver underneath his robes prior to a meeting with the prime minister at his private residence. The assassin’s two conspirators received life sentences, while the trigger puller, Somarama Thero, was baptized as a Christian two days before his hanging. The CIA’s MK-Ultra psychological operations program had already mastered in the science of creating programmed assassins.

Time and time again, the CIA has successfully engaged in election manipulation in parliamentary elections, presidential elections, popular referenda, and local and regional elections. The CIA is now directing its wealth of election chicanery toward the American electorate to discredit and undermine the legitimacy of the Trump presidency. For the sake of democracy everywhere, the CIA must be abolished!

SOURCE (http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/12/18/cia-meddles-us-election-as-has-countless-foreign-polls.html)

Joe Akulis

19th December 2016, 19:16

The thing I find kind of comical is, Hillary goes to the press and says that the Russians did indeed meddle with our election, I guess by stealing and then leaking some private or secret emails to the public. Then she makes the mistake of suggesting why Russia would do that: Because they are mad about the time she meddled in their election.

Don't step in something you can't wipe off, Mrs. Clinton.

P.S. Just because I see the comedy in her suggested reason, doesn't mean I buy any of the "blame Russia" crap. She and her husband started making enemies in our own federal agencies as soon as they took office in 1994 and started running background checks on all the top ranking FBI officials, looking for ways to shove them out and move in people who would support the Clinton spin machine. (Came in handy when Oklahoma City hit.)

Bob

19th December 2016, 19:24

Did you know Bill Clinton is an Elector (of NY State?)

Bill is teary eyed about his wife's loss, and lets people know why Hillary lost.. That it wasn't the "Rusians that did it.." it was the FBI ! (so he says)..

Bill Clinton has criticized FBI Director James Comey's decision to send a letter to Congress just days before the election about possible new evidence in the investigation into Hillary Clinton's email server.

After a review of newly discovered emails that surfaced while investigating another case, the FBI ultimately concluded that it would stand by its decision not to recommend charges against the former secretary of State.

Hillary Clinton's campaign has largely blamed Comey's letter for losing the election.

ah, methinks another revelation has been revealed... (sausage making)

source: "The Hill" http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/311044-bill-clinton-on-voting-for-hillary-i-never-cast-a-vote-i-was-prouder-of

turiya

19th December 2016, 21:03

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The Deep State Blues (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-19/deep-state-blues)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Dec 19, 2016 3:30 PM
Submitted by Howard Kunstler via Kunstler.com, (http://kunstler.com/cluster****-nation/deep-state-blues-2/)

Lest you wonder, not only did I not vote for Mr. Trump (or Hillary), but I relished heaping opprobrium on him during the election campaign. Just so you know, I’m not advocating for him, but I’m alarmed that the Deep State (the White House + the Intel Agency gang) now appears to be trying to hack the electoral college vote against him.

The headline deployed everywhere last week, “Russia Hacks Election,” was designed by the Deep State players to deviously lead the broadly dim public to think that Russia somehow interfered with the balloting process, which was not possible since voting machines are not hooked up to the internet. And then it was repeated endlessly by the cable news networks and the newspapers, under the number one rule of propaganda: that if you repeat something often enough, the public will swallow it.

This dishonest meme was also designed to distract the public from the substance of the emails disclosed by WikiLeaks - namely, the scamming and trickery of the Democratic National Committee (DNC), and the influence-peddling of Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation, which had her flirting with indictment last summer, and only reinforced her already-established public image as an unscrupulous person.

The New York Times especially worked the “Russia Hacks Election” story to a fare-the-well, saying in its Sunday edition:

The Central Intelligence Agency has concluded that Moscow put its thumb on the scale for Mr. Trump through the release of hacked Democratic emails, which provided fodder for many of the most pernicious false attacks on Mrs. Clinton on social media.

False attacks? What, that Hillary’s cronies put the DNC’s “thumb on the scale” against Bernie Sanders? That Donna Brazille gave Hillary debate questions beforehand? That as Secretary of State Hillary gave more face-time to foreign supplicants based on their contributions to the Clinton Foundation, and expedited arms deals for especially big givers? That she collected millions in speaking fees for sucking up to Too-Big-To-Fail bankers? That The Times and The WashPo and CNN reporters were taking direction from Hillary’s PR operatives?

Consider, too, how the Deep State “Russia Hacks Election” meme was ramped up to top volume coincidentally the week before the electoral college vote, as a last-ditch effort was launched by the old-line media, the diehard Hillary partisans, and a bunch of Hollywood celebrities, to persuade electoral college delegates to switch their votes to deprive Trump of his election victory.

President Obama did his bit to amplify the message by coloring Russian President Vladimir Putin as being behind the so-called hacking because “not much happens in Russia without, you know, Vladimir Putin,” just like not much happened in old Puritan New England without the involvement of Old Scratch. So now we have an up-to-date Devil figure to stir the paranoid imaginations of an already divided and perturbed public.

Hillary and her supporters have vehemently asserted that “seventeen intelligence agencies” agree with the assessment that Russia hacked the election. It might be greater news to the American people to hear that there actually are seventeen such agencies out there. Perhaps Mrs. Clinton or Mr. Obama might explain exactly what they are beyond the CIA, the FBI, the DIA, the NSA, and DHS. Personally, I feel less secure knowing that there are so many additional surveillance services sifting through everybody’s digital debris trail.

There’s been some chagrin among more prudent observers that neither the various Intel gang chiefs, including James Clapper, overall Director of National Intelligence, nor the White House have provided a shred of evidence that WikiLeaks got the Hillary emails from the Russians. One might even suppose that we discovered the hack by hacking the Russians, perhaps even Mr. Putin’s personal iPhone — but, wait a minute… we don’t intrude on other nations’ business. We don’t use the internet to spy (!) on anybody.

It will be interesting to see how Mr. Trump gets along with the Intel gang when (and if) he actually makes it into the oval office. It’s nice to think that he will fire a bunch of them, and then fire a bunch more, and maybe take a good hard look at these seventeen security and surveillance agencies and maybe shut a few of them down. [Now that would be a HUGE drain on that Swamp!] In the meantime, their activity begins to look like the attempted coup d’état I warned about a few months ago.

Forgive me for changing the subject so briskly, but there was another front page piece in The New York Times on Sunday that kind of said it all about where that Old Gray Lady’s collective head is at these days. Behold this quote from the story What Women Really Think of Men (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/opinion/sunday/what-women-really-think-of-men.html?contentCollection=smarter-living&hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news):

As the country prepares to revert to white male rule, our common condition for all but eight of the last 240 years, we should think harder about why we assume so little of men, including ones we may be married to. Too many men don’t prove those expectations wrong, and are rewarded anyway with prizes like the presidency.

SOURCE (http://kunstler.com/cluster****-nation/deep-state-blues-2/)

A Voice from the Mountains

19th December 2016, 22:02

Chester

19th December 2016, 22:36

Trump over the hump...

Texas in - latest "coup" foiled again...

ThePythonicCow

19th December 2016, 22:46

Kissinger is an arrogant Zionist who has probably always gotten his way and doesn't realize that he himself is liable to be facing prosecution before all of this is said and done with. The old system is done. It's finished.
I'm pretty sure that the Zionists and the Neocons have parted ways.

By the "Neocons", I refer to the Bush/Clinton crime syndicate, which has been running drugs and arms, stealing gold, and "bringing democracy to the world at the point of a gun." The Neocons were expecting to extend American exceptionalism and hegemony into a one world order that they controlled. They're losing.

By the "Zionists", I am referring to a Rothschild funded effort to bring "Jews back to their homeland, in Israel", using the resulting conflicts to disrupt and gain more control over the Middle East. This creates further conflicts elsewhere in the world involving anti-Semitism and anti-anti-Semitism.

For decades, the Zionists and the Neocons have been fellow travelers. They are now, in my view, parting ways.

The Rockefeller interests, which I believe Kissinger represents, have sufficient power, wealth and awareness to adapt to, even facilitate, these changes, as part of the ongoing, never-ending turbulent flow of human history.

The Rockefeller and Rothschild interests, which have been major sources of funding over the last few centuries, for the uber-elite who have had the strongest hand in human destiny for at least the last thousand years, will remain major sources of funding and power.

The New World Order continues to be unfolding, using the discredited Neocons as the "bad guys", and the rising nationalism in many nations and regions, including China, Russia, Europe, and the US, with their populist leaders, as the "good guys".

We are transitioning from a uni-polar political world with its one dominant currency, King Dollar, to a multi-polar political world with several major national currencies, all of which will be increasingly controlled by such organizations as the UN and the BIS, which in turn are and will remain controlled by the hidden hand of the uber-elite.

The (Neocon) NWO is Dead! Long life the (new) NWO!

ThePythonicCow

19th December 2016, 22:49

Trump over the hump...

Texas in - latest "coup" foiled again...

Yup:

Electoral College Vote Seals Trump White House Victory (NBC) (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/electoral-college-vote-seals-trump-white-house-victory-n698026)
Donald Trump Seals Electoral College Victory, Officially Becomes 45th US President (Zerohedge) (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-19/electoral-college-update-where-vote-stands-215pm-eastern)
Donald Trump Secures Electoral College Win, With Few Surprises (NPR) (http://www.npr.org/2016/12/19/506188169/donald-trump-poised-to-secure-electoral-college-win-with-few-surprises)
Of 306 electors pledged to vote for Donald J. Trump, 304 voted for him (NYTimes) (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/12/19/us/elections/electoral-college-results.html?ref=politics)

Jules

19th December 2016, 22:53

Too bad Soros didn't tell Dorothy to bring back Hillary's broomstick! All the NWO flying monkeys would not know what to do....

Cidersomerset

19th December 2016, 23:08

Trump Cruises to Electoral College Victory

HKMD9RlL40w

Published on 19 Dec 2016
There were many protesters but few faithless electors as Donald Trump
won the Electoral College vote Monday — ensuring that the billionaire
will become America's 45th president. (Dec. 19)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94993-Sean-Hannity-FULL-Interview-with-Julian-Assange-15-Dec-2016-Russia-is-not-the-source-of-DNC-leaks-to-Wiki-more&p=1121611&viewfull=1#post1121611

A Voice from the Mountains

19th December 2016, 23:08

There has definitely been a split in Israeli politics but I'm still not sure what all it means in real terms. There were subpoenas out for members of the Rothschild banking family for various things in Europe over the past couple of years or so, so their power seems to be waning as well. A lot of things are being shuffled around but I have a feeling that the radical Zionists are feeling pressure too, based on the fact that they're trying to quietly ram through new legislation in the US and Europe against what they claim to be anti-Semitic "hate speech," including criticizing Israel or questioning what happened with the Holocaust. We'll see with time what happens with all of this stuff.

I'm still in shock that Netanyahu all of a sudden said he's willing to work with Trump on a two-state solution with Palestine. If he really means that, and his candidness make it seem legit to me, then that alone is a pretty radical split from what we've traditionally seen from the Zionists. They want to create "Greater Israel," not settle for a two-state solution in their own back yard.

Cidersomerset

19th December 2016, 23:22

I'm still in shock that Netanyahu all of a sudden said he's willing to work with Trump on a two-state solution with Palestine

I have not seen that yet but it might tie into Trumps red light to move the
embassy to Jerusalem and full support of Israel , and his son in law is
Jewish of course.

This could turn out to be Trumps Achilles heal and start off a new 'intefada' ?
We will have to see , how this is presented to the Palestinians....

INDEPENDENT.....

Donald Trump promises to move US embassy to Jerusalem as Netanyahu
praises ‘clear support’ for Israel
Monday 12th Dec...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-israel-us-embassy-jerusalem-benjamin-netanyahu-f-35-iran-a7470881.html

=================================================

PRESS TV

Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:4AM

Mossad chief, Trump team hold secret meeting: Report

The director of Israel’s Mossad spy agency, Yossi Cohen, has secretly met with US
President-elect Donald Trump’s transition team, according to reports.

The meeting took place during Cohen’s clandestine visit to the US, where he was
accompanied by a delegation of the Tel Aviv regime's security officials, Israeli
media reported Sunday.
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/12/19/500493/US-Trump-Mossad-Israel-Yossi-Cohen

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Trump signalling a seismic shift in decades-long foreign policy
UEfPWetoHOo

Published on 16 Dec 2016

http://www.tanmarket.com - DAVID FRIEDMAN, TRUMP'S ADVISER ON ISRAEL, SAYING:

"A Trump administration will never pressure Israel..."

The man set to be the U.S. ambassador to Israel.

David Friedman's considered a far-right hardliner whose appointment is sure to
rattle the Middle East.Donald Trump, announcing Thursday (December 17) that he'll
nominate Friedman, signalling a seismic shift in decades-long foreign policy.The
bankruptcy attorney welcomed the announcement, saying he's looking forward to
taking up his post in Jerusalem.That's a clear nod to Trump's pledge during the
election campaign to shift the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, all but
enshrining the city as Israel's capital.Such a move would anger Palestinians who
regard the ancient city as the future capital of a separate state.It could also
provoke the wider Muslim world, who'd prefer the U.S. take a less partisan stance
in one of the world's most intracted disputes.Friedman has also expressed support
for the annexation by Israel of large parts of the West Bank and promised not to
put any pressure on Israel to reach a two-state solution with the Palestinians.

====================================================
Why Trump's Israel ambassador could upend relations in the Middle East

1HQ5XWa7T6Q

Published on 17 Dec 2016
Why Trump's Israel ambassador could upend relations in the Middle East
Donald Trump's designated ambassador to Israel signals a potential shift in long-
standing US policy that has implications for Washington's relationships in the
region, with Europe and even the American Jewish community.

https://www.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/get-attachment-58-3.jpg

Expel and Exploit: The Israeli Practice of Taking over Rural Palestinian Land
Summary, Dec. 2016

http://www.btselem.org/publications/summaries/201612_expel_and_exploit

===================================================

Andrew Bacevich: Trump's "Israel First" Policy Will Likely Lead to More Violence in Region

GG4VLfNdBT4

Published on 16 Dec 2016
http://democracynow.org - Donald Trump has tapped the far-right-wing bankruptcy
lawyer David Friedman to be the U.S. ambassador to Israel. Many are calling
Friedman an unprecedented pick for the position, given his hostility toward peace
between Israelis and Palestinians and his disregard for international law. Friedman
has no diplomatic experience. He supports Israel’s Jewish-only settlements in the
occupied West Bank and says he doesn’t think it would be illegal for Israel to annex
the entire Palestinian territory, despite the fact that it would be blatantly illegal
under international law. For more, we speak to military historian Andrew Bacevich.
His latest book is "America’s War for the Greater Middle East: A Military History."

DNA

20th December 2016, 02:37

In a recent interview Kissinger seemed to be indicating that Trump will be given a chance to develop a program that is acceptable to the NWO, and if he doesn't, Trump's administration will be torn apart.

Maybe Kissinger didn't notice that they already threw everything they had at him during the election campaign and he still beat them. Then they threw everything they could at him to try to peel away the electors he fairly won and that didn't work either.

Kissinger is an arrogant Zionist who has probably always gotten his way and doesn't realize that he himself is liable to be facing prosecution before all of this is said and done with. The old system is done. It's finished.

I think Kissinger is more than that.
When Wendelle Stevens did his S4 Informers video he had a whistle blower from S4, a man who had been given an aggressive brain tumor and was about to die, (his reward for years of loyal service), he went rogue and told his whole story to Wendelle Stevens. His take was that there was indeed a secret shadow government that controlled the US, and that the number 2 guy in charge was Dick Cheney and the number 1 guy was Henry Kissinger.
This was back in 92', it's amazing both of these guys are still alive. Kissinger is 93 no less. And somehow still seems to be in power.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TfAWjlTQPs

turiya

20th December 2016, 03:05

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/TRUMP_TWEETS/TRUMP_TWITTER_ICON_4.png (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/810996052241293312)
We did it! Thank you to all of my great
supporters, we just officially won the election
(despite all of the distorted and inaccurate media).

3:51 PM - 19 Dec 2016

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/810996052241293312)

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http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/TRUMP_TWEETS/TRUMP_TWITTER_ICON_4.png (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/811039925571354624)
"@Franklin_Graham: Congratulations to President-elect @realDonaldTrump--the electoral votes are in and it's official." Thank you Franklin!

6:46 PM - 19 Dec 2016

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/811039925571354624)

___________________________________________________________

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/TRUMP_TWEETS/TRUMP_TWITTER_ICON_4.png (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/811041034323054592)
"@mike_pence: Congratulations to @RealDonaldTrump; officially elected President of the United States today by the Electoral College!"

6:50 PM - 19 Dec 2016

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/811041034323054592)

BMJ

20th December 2016, 03:36

The whites hats must be celebrating christmas early, as they tptw shills keep on coming out to help the Hillary camp.
And in doing so exposing themselves and giving another name to the prosecution list the whites hats will be placing in Trumps christmas stocking.

http://prikid.biz/uploads/fotos/fireplace-christmas-stockings_935_500_332.jpg

Word of advice for the tptw shills.

86URGgqONvA

ThePythonicCow

20th December 2016, 04:52

From The Best Election Map Yet (Zerohedge) (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-19/best-election-map-yet):

Behold, the Clinton archipelago

http://thepythoniccow.us/20161219_clinton.jpg

A Voice from the Mountains

20th December 2016, 05:21

For a second I thought that was some group of islands in the Bahamas or something, then I recognized that it's just the slummiest and most filth-ridden parts of the US. :ROFL:

Except for Vermont and New Hampshire. If that was a fair election in those states (and I have my reservations about that) then I don't understand what those people were thinking, but they at least seem to be somewhat more of an exception to the rule of urban idiocy.

turiya

20th December 2016, 16:51

A Snowflake Melts-Down...

https://kauilapele.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/zero_hedge_logo_31.gif
Wisconsin Woman Snaps After
Electors Certify Votes For Trump -
"You Sold Out Our Country" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-20/wisconsin-woman-snaps-after-electors-certify-votes-trump-you-sold-out-our-country)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Dec 20, 2016 10:13 AM
After the Wisconsin electors read out what most of us saw as a fairly predictable vote tally, 10 electoral votes for Donald Trump, one Wisconsin citizen completely lost her mind. Apparently the finality of actually hearing the votes certified was just too much for this snowflake to handle as she launched into a tirade accusing the electors of selling out their country. You know, because ignoring the will of the majority of the voters in your state would not be considered selling out.

“You sold out our country. Everyone of you, you’re pathetic. You don’t deserve to be in America.”

"This is my America."

Protestors disrupt Wisconsin presidential electors vote
(Published on Dec 19, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbDiqPUe4h8

From another angle.... in the background, other in the audience chant, "shame... shame... shame..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BjgEsK4LbE

We can't wait to see what Moveon.org, and all the other snowflake organizations, have in store for us next....

Source (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-20/wisconsin-woman-snaps-after-electors-certify-votes-trump-you-sold-out-our-country)

__________________________________________________

Trump Wins Again With 304 Electors
And The Hillary Zombies Go Crazy
(Published on Dec 19, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqxVljjCwKE

Ba-ba-Ra

20th December 2016, 17:44

Bob

20th December 2016, 17:45

One can only imagine the level of MSM and social programming that can be so hard wired into those individuals..

Seems to me many following this closely from the primaries/convention/campaign have been able to see for themselves the immensity, and precision of the programming; that embedded within such "programs" apparently are "keyword triggers", similar keywords to how it was done within Project Monarch.. thinking out loud - now who do we know who "revealed" the "so called hacking", and who developed Monarch? Are there any dots there?

And who said "no hope" to Oprah, and can we assume there may have been a script of other keyword triggers? http://mkoften.blogspot.com/2014/10/project-monarch.html hmmm... can anyone analyze that presentation? (Later in the thread, see the observations that a Judge made on hearing "no hope" (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90590-Transition-into-Trump&p=1121836&viewfull=1#post1121836)..)

A marionette is a puppet that is attached to strings and is controlled by the puppet master, hence MONARCH programming is also referred to as the "Marionette Syndrome (http://theoferrum.activeboard.com/t55509508/director-william-colby-of-the-cia-admits-to-monarch-project/)."

"Imperial Conditioning" is another term used, while some mental health therapists know it as "Conditioned Stimulus Response Sequences."

The link I believe goes to a good read - see if you can find the NLP, the "programming", the keywords, the triggers used on people during the primaries, convention(s), the speeches, the use of "distractions" (False Flags)... :) to try to get people to "not see" what's behind the curtain..

A Snowflake Melts-Down...

[...]
Wisconsin Woman Snaps After
Electors Certify Votes For Trump -

"You Sold Out Our Country" [...] one Wisconsin citizen completely lost her mind.

Apparently the finality of actually hearing the votes certified was just too much for this snowflake to handle as she launched into a tirade accusing the electors of selling out their country. You know, because ignoring the will of the majority of the voters in your state would not be considered selling out. (snipped for salient point emphasis)

ref: "Monarch" real or not?

When former CIA Director William Colby was asked directly (http://theoferrum.activeboard.com/t55509508/director-william-colby-of-the-cia-admits-to-monarch-project/), “What about monarch?” he replied angrily and ambiguously, “We stopped that between the late 1960’s and the early 1970’s.” Suffice to say that society, in its apparent state of cognitive dissonance, is generally in denial of the over whelming evidence of this multifarious conspiracy.

ThePythonicCow

20th December 2016, 18:33

Except for Vermont and New Hampshire. If that was a fair election in those states (and I have my reservations about that) then I don't understand what those people were thinking, but they at least seem to be somewhat more of an exception to the rule of urban idiocy.

Vermont and New Hampshire used to be like rural America, but then all the well paid or retiring people in the Boston and New York area started moving in, for vacations, summer homes, and retirement homes. For example, my dad sold his dairy farm (whence the "cows" in my screen handle ThePythonicCow) to a New York retiree, back in 1957, when I was ten. That farm was in upstate New York, on the Vermont border. The smaller states Vermont and New Hampshire have become completely dominated with this influx. The more rural parts of New York and Pennsylvania have had enough population and economic activity to remain distinctly different from their major cities, New York City and Philadelphia.

turiya

20th December 2016, 19:49

Hello!!!

Do they ever address the fact that the DNC sold out our country when the Bernie Sanders campaign was thwarted by them. Particularly when all the pre-election poles showed Bernie had a better chance of beating Trump than Hillary?!??!?!?

Wake up Democrats - quit looking outward (where the press is cleverly pointed you) and take a look inward.

Ba-ba-ra,

There are two videos you should probably have a look at.

First, I would suggest to watch this 12/19/2016 Jordan Maxwell Infowars Interview... he explains it quite well. The Dems are not quite aware of what they are / and have been used for by the Global Elitists... to take down America, to take down the American Constitution... Just remember that both Hillary Clinton & Barack Obama were students of Saul Alinsky (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky). Also it should be noted that Joel Gilbert also has done quite a bit of research on just WHO Barack Obama's real father was - Frank Marshall Davis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Marshall_Davis).

http://media.salon.com/2012/02/obama_alinsky.jpg

http://www.newsworks.org/images/stories/flexicontent/m_nwbnwsaulclintonx1200.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FvPHuW9ovOE/hqdefault.jpg
Frank Marshall Davis

The Jordan Maxwell Interview begins at 2:11 minutes...

Jordan Maxwell Talks Global Awakening
With Alex Jones: Exclusive Interview
(Published on Dec 19, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL3CpX2iZus?t=2m11s

The second video is Joel Gilbert's "Dreams of My Real Father"...

Joel Gilbert's Researched Documentary "Dreams of My Real Father" - on Barack Obama's real father - Frank Marshall Davis. Frank Marshall Davis (1905-1987) was a Communist Party USA (CPUSA) propagandist in Chicago and Hawaii, as well as a writer and poet: http://www.obamasrealfather.com/frank-marshall-davis/

Dreams of My Real Father by Joel Gilbert

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vLsjrMkoSo

Bill Ryan has provided a link to download this video on another thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86769-This-may-be-Obama-s-real-birth-certificate--but-may-also-be-a-hoax-&p=1118639&viewfull=1#post1118639) (of which I made a copy - not certain how long it will last on youtube). If it gets deleted, Click on the link Bill has provided so you can download the video to your computer.

.
Here's Joel Gilbert's 2012 documentary about Obama's real origins, Dreams from My Real Father (http://obamasrealfather.com) :

Dreams From My Real Father (2012).mp4 (http://avalonlibrary.net/Bill/Dreams%20From%20My%20Real%20Father%20(2012).mp4) (mp4, 97 mins, 479 Mb)

DNA

20th December 2016, 20:08

Hi Turiya and Ba-Ba-Ra

This video with Dr. John Coleman changed my paradigm on how politics work. This video really backs up what Turiya is saying, and although the video is from 1993 it is some of the highest level and most powerful information I've ever run across.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRqx1YgIBMw
rRqx1YgIBMw

Ba-ba-Ra

20th December 2016, 20:42

Thanks, have watched all of the above, some now, some in the past.

Where do we go from here? . . .Richard Wolff's suggestion (after he points out why we got here)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptv9dY0WiF0

Bob

20th December 2016, 20:59

The use of the "Hope Button" by Michelle - (to trigger), one speaks up to point out some details..

(No more free travel at the expense of the American People ...)

[..] Judge Jeanine Pirro tore into First Lady Michelle Obama during a monologue Saturday, responding to recent comments Obama made when she said that under President-elect Donald Trump, the country is currently facing a lack of hope.

Obama said during a recent interview with Oprah Winfrey that under her husband, President Barack Obama, the country faced a momentum of hope following his election in 2008 and 2012, but now that hope has run out.

“Since when does hope rise and fall with you and Barack in the White House?” Pirro questioned. (emphasis added)

“This from a woman who, in 2008 at age 44, said ‘for the first time I’m proud of my country,'” Pirro added. “[Now] eight years later you’re out of hope?”

Pirro went on to rip Obama for saying that her husband did, in fact, bring hope to all Americans, especially in times of crisis, which is what she said during her interview with Oprah. But Pirro disagreed.

“Did your husband give hope to the parents of James Foley or Steven Sotloff (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Sotloff), who was in custody for over a year while his family was told they could not negotiate because they’d be prosecuted before their sons’ heads were chopped off?” Pirro asked.

“To try to convince America that once you and Barack exit the White House, hope is removed from America — that’s an outrage!” she added.

[..] with Trump, America has hope. But for the Obamas, hope is “gone.”

“For you, hope is gone,” Pirro said, noting that as of next month when Trump is sworn into office, the Obama family will no longer be able to travel internationally “at-will” with the presidential prestige and entourage.

more: http://www.theblaze.com/news/2016/12/18/foxs-judge-jeanine-pirro-rips-michelle-obama-americans-rejected-you-and-everything-you-stand-for/

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/jeanineonmichiellerejectionamericans-1280x720.jpg

reference - hostages beheaded, Obama fails/delays crucial rescue efforts - http://www.ibtimes.com/obama-delayed-rescue-efforts-slain-isis-hostages-james-foley-steven-sotloff-kayla-1816640

http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/lg/public/2015/02/14/james-foley.jpg

The U.S. delayed by almost a month an effort to rescue American and British hostages of the Islamic State group in Syria last year, even though U.K. intelligence sources identified possible locations where they were being held..

The Obama administration was unwilling to launch a rescue mission ..

Baby Steps

20th December 2016, 22:39

can anybody verify the following?

http://archive.is/IDBh5

onawah

20th December 2016, 23:33

If it is, I sure hope somebody interviews him in person and puts it on youtube before he's murdered.

Bill Ryan

20th December 2016, 23:48

can anybody verify the following?

http://archive.is/IDBh5

This is a poor attempt to fake a 'confession' by Rudy Giuliani. (I hesitate even to reply to the post! :facepalm:)

Here are three large red flags. To see them, imagine that you're Giuliani yourself, doing this for real.

The real Giuliani would immediately state, show, produce or reveal something to prove that it was really him. (How about even a selfie, with today's New York Times, showing the date?)
The real Giuliani would offer new information that could be corroborated and checked. He'd show how that could be done.
The real Giuliani would NOT link to former Infowars reporter Joe Biggs' Twitter feed. (Jeez!)

There's three. ^^ Smart readers can probably think of quite a number of other things that the real Giuliani certainly would or would not do, if this weren't a(nother) cheap hoax.

:focus:

ThePythonicCow

21st December 2016, 00:26

can anybody verify the following?

http://archive.is/IDBh5

If that's really Rudy Giuliani spilling the beans on pedophiliia and 9/11 on twitter ... then wow!

P.S. -- Bill is sure it's not real, for three good reasons: Fake News and the War on Freedom and Truth -- Post #47 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94731-Fake-News-and-the-War-on-Freedom-and-Truth&p=1121862&viewfull=1#post1121862)

turiya

21st December 2016, 00:42

Thanks, have watched all of the above, some now, some in the past.

Where do we go from here? . . .Richard Wolff's suggestion (after he points out why we got here)

[video=youtube;Ptv9dY0WiF0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptv9dY0WiF0

Hello!!!

Do they ever address the fact that the DNC sold out our country when the Bernie Sanders campaign was thwarted by them. Particularly when all the pre-election poles showed Bernie had a better chance of beating Trump than Hillary?!??!?!?

Wake up Democrats - quit looking outward (where the press is cleverly pointed you) and take a look inward.

Richard Wolff is a Jill 'The Recount' Stein supporter & Bernie Sanders supporting Socialist / Marxist. Wolff's ambition is to create a new-leftist party. The truth about Bernie revealed itself with his endorsement of Hillary 'Queen of Corruption & Power Politics' Clinton. Bernie's notion that global warming has created terrorism is ludicrous at best.

Nuff said.

turiya

21st December 2016, 01:27

As the Coup Against Trump Fails,
the Threat Against His Life Rises
—By Paul Craig Roberts
December 20, 2016

∘ The use of the presstitute media to deny Trump the Republican presidential nomination failed.
∘ The use of the presstitute media to deny Trump victory in the presidential election failed.
∘ The vote recount failed.
∘ The effort to sway the Electoral College failed.
∘ But the effort continues.
The CIA report on Russia’s alleged interference in the US presidential election ordered by Obama is in process. Faked evidence is a hallmark of CIA operations.

In their determination to seal Trump’s ears against environmental concerns, a group of environmentalists plan to disrupt the inauguration. This in itself is of little consequence, but chaos presents opportunity for assassination.

Trump himself seems to think he is in danger. According to MSNBC, Trump intends to supplement his Secret Service protection with private security [VIDEO Report] (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-news/watch/will-trump-use-private-security-as-president-837040707540). As there is evidence of CIA complicity in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy (film shows Secret Service agents ordered away from JFK’s limo immediately prior to his assassination), Trump, who is clearly seen as a threat by the military/security complex, is not being paranoid. MSNBC implies that Trump’s private security is to suppress protesters, as if government security forces have shown any compunction about suppressing protesters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY02Qkuc_f8

This provides an indication of the threat that the CIA sees in Trump (article):

Donald Trump Will Ruthlessly Decimate the CIA for Turning on Him (http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/donald-trump-will-ruthlessly-decimate-cia-turning-against-him/ri18205)

Global Research’s Michel Chossudovsky has explained that Trump’s peaceful approach to Russia aligns him with oligarchs, whose wealth benefits from business deals with Russia, and puts Trump at odds with the military/security oligarchs, who benefit from the one trillion dollar annual military/security budget. The latter group have been in control since President Eisenhower warned us about them and can muster deep state forces against a Trump presidency.

To take on a group like this requires a tough SOB. Anything less than Trump wouldn’t have a chance. Indeed, if Douglas Valentine’s just published book, The CIA As Organized Crime (https://www.amazon.com/CIA-Organized-Crime-Illegal-Operations/dp/0997287012) (Clarity Press, 2017) is even half true, Trump’s life is certainly at risk.

Donald Trump is clearly no saint. Given what we are up against—dangerous tensions between nuclear powers and the military/security complex’s stake in these tensions—a saint is not what the situation calls for.

The military/security complex has been entrenched since NATO’s formation on April 4, 1949, a provocation that preceded by six years the formation of the Warsaw Pact on May 14, 1955. Any president willing to confront this entrenched deep state superpower deserves the support of all of us.

SOURCE (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/12/20/as-the-coup-against-trump-fails-the-threat-against-his-life-rises-paul-craig-roberts/)

norman

21st December 2016, 02:00

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Wayne Madsen's website is a paywall so I can't link to the article I want to, but here is someone reading from it. It says that CIA head John Brennan is a converted wahhabist Muslim and has been running the Islamisization of America for years, since he was CIA head in Saudi Arabia many years ago.

MP3 Play or download ( I only switched on the record function part way through this ):
https://app.box.com/s/qva7iqkptn64796x8yyzhhq2gbm5i6y6

turiya

21st December 2016, 13:27

Wayne Madsen's website is a paywall so I can't link to the article I want to, but here is someone reading from it. It says that CIA head John Brennan is a converted wahhabist Muslim and has been running the Islamisization of America for years, since he was CIA head in Saudi Arabia many years ago.

MP3 Play or download ( I only switched on the record function part way through this ):
https://app.box.com/s/qva7iqkptn64796x8yyzhhq2gbm5i6y6

Norman

That's Jim Fetzer speaking with Jeff Rense 12-December 2016 interview... here's the complete interview:

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(12/12/2016)
Hour 1 - Jim Fetzer -
The Communist Left Claims Of Russian Election Hacks
Are An Attempted COUP On America

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From Jim Fetzer's website:

Wednesday, December 21, 2016
Wayne Madsen: John Brennan,
The CIA's Saudi and Islamic State Mole
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December 20-21, 2016 --
The CIA's Saudi and Islamic State Mole

Wayne Madsen

There is a reason why Central Intelligence Agency director John Brennan has done everything possible to interfere with President-elect Donald Trump taking the reins of the presidency on January 20, 2017. As a mole for the Saudi royal family and a convert to Wahhabist Islam, Brennan has no desire to see certain individuals, who are well aware of his Islamist beliefs, ascend to positions of power in the U.S. intelligence community. The greatest threat to Brennan comes from retired Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, tapped by Trump to become the National Security Adviser.

Brennan the Saudi mole

High-level moles are the bane of every intelligence agency. There is still a reason to believe that the American spy for Israel, Jonathan Pollard, reported to a higher-level Israeli intelligence mole within the Reagan administration. Britain's MI-5 Security Service remains plagued to this day over evidence that its Cold War-era director, Roger Hollis, was the "Fifth Man" in the "Cambridge Five" Soviet spy ring.

It matters not that the Cold War is over when suspecting there are senior level intelligence moles in American espionage agencies. Brennan, in almost every counter-intelligence sense, fits the bill as a mole.

In 2014, Flynn was fired as director of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) by President Obama. Obama was advised by Brennan to dump Flynn because the DIA director was producing intelligence policy documents showing that it was a mistake and against U.S. security interests to support Syrian jihadists who were trying to topple Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. For Brennan's Saudi and Wahhabist controllers, this was tantamount to blasphemy.

Brennan blindsided the American people by claiming the Syrian rebel forces were "moderates." Flynn countered Brennan in DIA intelligence reports by documenting how the majority of Syrian rebels were radical Islamists supported financially and militarily by Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Moreover, Flynn maintained that "Turkey was looking the other way when it came to the growth of the Islamic State inside Syria." Brennan was furious at his fellow Irish Catholic's view of Syria and the Middle East.

The Saudis had carefully groomed Brennan ever since his days as CIA station chief in Riyadh in the mid-1990s. The Saudi King, as "Custodian of the Two Holy Shrines of Mecca and Medina," arranged for Brennan, a convert to Wahhabi Islam while running the CIA's Saudi station, to perform the "hajj" pilgrimage to Mecca. Only observant Muslims are permitted to visit the Al Kaaba Al Musharrafah (The Holy Kaaba) in Mecca.

Brennan tried to keep his conversion a secret. However, after 9/11, the FBI began investigating all Saudi links within the U.S. government. What FBI agents soon discovered was that the Saudis had key intelligence and religious assets salted throughout the U.S. government and, most troubling, within the CIA. One of the key Saudi assets was Brennan.

‘We need to know who gave the orders’:
Putin comments on ambassador assassination in Ankara
(Published on Dec 19, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGRZspUHg08

Brennan's systematic "disposition" of his enemies

In March 2013, just prior to being confirmed by the U.S. Senate, former FBI agent John Guandolo confirmed that Brennan had indeed converted to Islam while he was the CIA chief in Riyadh. Brennan had previously served as Obama's counter-terrorism adviser on the National Security Council. He was also in charge of the cleansing of the Obama/Dunham family passport files at the State Department in 2008 while CEO of The Analysis Corporation, a CIA contractor.

It was Brennan who helped cover up the Saudi government's role in the Khobar Towers bombing in 1996, which killed 19 U.S. servicemen. As chief FBI investigator of the bombing, John O. Neill came across hard intelligence linking the Khobar bombings to the Saudi government. While not the only reason, it was a significant reason for Brennan to set O'Neill up in a briefcase theft caper before his retirement in 2001. O'Neill had just taken the job as head of security for the World Trade Center when the terrorist plot involving Saudi Arabia brought the towers down on September 11, 2001. O'Neill was killed in the collapse. Brennan fought strenuously against the release of the 28 classified pages from the Congressional Joint Inquiry into Intelligence Community Activities Before and After the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001.

Although finally released with redactions and Brennan's acquiescence, the 28 pages, although highly suggestive of Saudi government involvement, could not be used as prima facie evidence to implicate the House of Saud. There is no reason to believe that what was released constituted the original text contained in the 28 pages. Brennan had every reason to tamper with the original pages in order to protect the Saudis, and by extension, himself.

As CIA director, Brennan would possess most of the keys to the U.S. intelligence kingdom. And Brennan's kingdom would make America's most closely guarded secrets available to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, the world's chief supporter of Islamic jihadist terrorist networks, including the Islamic State, Al Qaeda, Boko Haram, and numerous others.

To placate his Saudi masters, the Jesuit-educated Brennan opted to take the oath of office as CIA director on a copy of the secular U.S. Constitution, not on the Bible, as every past CIA director, Christian and Jewish, had done. One of Brennan's first acts as CIA director was to ban the term "jihadist" to describe Islamist terrorists, preferring instead the word "extremists." As a Wahhabi Muslim, Brennan understood that "jihad" is a term used in the Koran compelling observant Muslims to maintain and spread the what they consider to be the one true faith in Allah (God). For Brennan to use the term "jihad" in a negative or pejorative sense would constitute "haram" or a "forbidden act," according to the Muslim Koran and Sunnah religious texts. Brennan stated that any suggestion that the U.S. was at war with the religion of Islam was an affront to the faith, a comment spoken as a true Wahhabist believer.

Brennan's climb up the ladder

Brennan worked his way up the ladder at the CIA after his conversion to Islam. In 1999, Brennan was appointed chief of staff to CIA director George Tenet. In March 2001, as final implementation plans were being laid to carry out the 9/11 attacks, Brennan became deputy executive director of the CIA. After 9/11, Brennan was in charge of identifying, renditioning, and "terminating with extreme prejudice" anyone who could track 9/11 planning and implementation back to himself, the Saudi government, and the Israeli Mossad -- a key intelligence partner of the House of Saud. But Brennan's top mission was to ensure that a CIA asset, long groomed by Langley for the White House, was elected president in 2008. Barack Obama, who was schooled as a boy in Jakarta in the Muslim faith and whose Kenyan father was a Muslim, was the "chosen one." Obama was propelled to the national stage after the political careers of a number of Illinois politicians -- Blair Hull, Jack Ryan, and finally, Rod Blagojevich -- were trashed in a series of CIA dirty tricks campaigns.

From 2003 to 2004, Brennan was the chief of the CIA's Terrorist Threat Integration Center. While there, and later, while Obama's counter-terrorism chief, Brennan called the shots on CIA drone targets as the custodian of the "Disposition Matrix (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposition_Matrix)." Systematically, any jihadist who could have blown the whistle on Brennan was summarily liquidated. As CIA director, Brennan continued to use the "Disposition Matrix" to terminate potential witnesses to his selling out to the Saudis.

After Nigerian jihadist Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab -- the infamous "underwear bomber" -- tried to blow up Northwest Airlines Flight 253 during its final approach to Detroit International Airport from Amsterdam on Christmas Day 2009, Brennan said U.S. intelligence agencies "did not miss any signs" that could have prevented the attempt. Brennan, again, was lying in order to cover up the fact that U.S. intelligence agents had cleared the Nigerian to board the flight without a passport by claiming he was a Sudanese refugee traveling only with refugee documents.

Abdulmutallab, known as "Farouk1986" on various Internet websites as a jihadist sympathizer, was already known to be a follower of American citizen and Al Qaeda operative Anwar al-Awlaki, a one-time consultant to the Department of Defense. On November 19, 2009, Abdulmutallab's wealthy Nigerian banker father had informed the CIA station in Abuja, Nigeria that his son had "extreme religious views" and that he was in Yemen. Brennan ignored the intelligence from Abuja and gave the green light for the young Nigerian's trip to Detroit. The underwear bomber incident gave Brennan the justification to order [rest of sentence missing].

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To clear the tracks away from Brennan back to Saudi Arabia and Al Qaeda, the CIA's chief judge and executioner ordered a drone hit on al-Awlaki in Yemen on September 30, 2011, and his teenage son in Yemen two weeks later. These drone hits eliminated problems with two potential witnesses to Brennan's treasonous activities. As far as Abdulmutallab is concerned, he is permanently incommunicado as a result of a four consecutive lifetime sentence at the federal Supermax prison in Florence, Colorado.

Character assassination of Brennan's opponents in the Intelligence Community

To protect his Muslim identity, Brennan also set about to destroy troublesome opponents. Former FBI agent Guandolo was the first to receive Brennan's thuggish treatment. Information was leaked that Guandolo had, during 2005, maintained an intimate relationship with a confidential source, Lori Mody, in the federal prosecution of Louisiana U.S. Representative William Jefferson. Although trial judge T.S. Ellis III ruled the affair irrelevant to the case against Jefferson, Guandolo was forced to quit the FBI after the leak about his past sexual affairs somehow landed on the FBI director's office from Guandolo's therapist's office. Guandolo resigned from the FBI in 2009 amid a furor over his extramarital affair with Mody.

Apparently, the CIA continued to believe that breaking into psychiatrists' offices was justified even after CIA agents had been caught doing it in the case of Pentagon whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg. After Guandolo, like Flynn, began warning about the jihadist threat, Brennan went on the warpath. Guandolo was cashiered as a result of the leak of therapist files to the FBI and Flynn was fired after he was tagged by Brennan as an enemy of Islam. When asked how the psychiatrist's files ended up with the FBI, Guandolo stated simply, "it's a lot simpler than you think."

A declassified version of the DIA's Secret report on the Islamic State, dated August 12, 2012, was unambiguous about U.S. -- CIA and Obama -- support for ISIL in Syria:

“THE WEST, GULF COUNTRIES, AND TURKEY [WHO] SUPPORT THE [SYRIAN] OPPOSITION… THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF ESTABLISHING A DECLARED OR UNDECLARED SALAFIST PRINCIPALITY IN EASTERN SYRIA (HASAKA AND DER ZOR), AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE SUPPORTING POWERS TO THE OPPOSITION WANT, IN ORDER TO ISOLATE THE SYRIAN REGIME…”.

As the originating classification authority, Flynn had final say on what to release pursuant to a Freedom of Information Act filed by Judicial Watch with the DIA. And the fact that the above paragraph was allowed to be released, in full, sent Brennan and Obama through the roof. On April 30, 2014, Flynn was forced to retire, a full year before the end of his tour, from the U.S. Army.

Brennan began circulating rumors to Washington officialdom that Flynn was guilty of developing his own facts, dubbed "Flynn facts," in intelligence reports. Brennan's goal was to discredit Flynn's and the DIA's intelligence pinning support for ISIL and other jihadists on the CIA. A tip from Flynn's predecessor, Vincent Stewart, to former Secretary of State Colin Powell intimated that Flynn was "abusive with staff, didn’t listen, worked against policy, bad management, etc." It was information that Brennan used to convince Obama to send Flynn packing.

It was no coincidence that Guandolo and Flynn both ended up being described as hate mongers by the Zionist-run Southern Poverty Law Center, an Orwellian "Ministry of Truth" designed to stifle free speech in the United States and an organization that has served the interests of the CIA.

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The recent assassination of Russian ambassador to Turkey Andrey Karlov by an off-duty Turkish anti-riot police officer, who casually strolled into an art exhibit in Ankara, bears the markings of Brennan's "Disposition Matrix (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposition_Matrix)." Karlov served in Ankara since 2013 and his posting overlapped with Flynn's term as DIA chief. It is known that Flynn, like Trump, sees Russia as an invaluable ally against the Islamic State and its major allies, Saudi Arabia and Turkey. Brennan and his friends inside the Turkish dictatorship of Recep Tayyip Erdogan are trying to spin the story that the Islamist police assassin of Karlov, Mevlüt Mert Altıntaş, worked for the Fethulleh Gulen organization. Gulen is a moderate Muslim businessman-cleric living in exile in Pennsylvania who has been a fierce critic of the Islamic State and Erdogan's alliance with it in Syria.

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Although a past CIA asset, Gulen would have no interest in ordering a hit on the Russian ambassador. As a Saudi intelligence mole, Brennan does have a keen interest in the killing of Karlov. By assassinating Karlov, Brennan has driven a wedge in an emerging Russian-Turkish agreement to consolidate Assad's control of Aleppo and bring about the end of Brennan's jihadist army in Syria.

Brennan's CIA Secret report on Russia influencing the 2016 U.S. election through a cyber-offensive warfare program is another product of Brennan's attempt to deny the White House to Trump. Brennan understands that his Saudi masters are fretting over Trump's presidency and his antipathy toward to Saudi and Gulf Arab states. Guandolo, who has found a home with some problematic characters, including generic Muslim-haters like Frank Gaffney and Pamela Geller, has stated that the Obama administration "intentionally" aided terrorists and has committed treason.

It is clear that Guandolo saw FBI raw intelligence on Brennan that would lead anyone to conclude that the Saudis and their Wahhabist imams have benefited from a major mole inside the CIA for at least two decades. And there is no telling what Flynn was able to gather on Brennan, especially while enjoying "all-source" intelligence access to signals intelligence intercepts from the National Security Agency, FBI field agents' reports, and even CIA counter-intelligence reports on suspected moles within Langley. There is one thing for certain, Brennan is already destroying incriminating documents at CIA headquarters that could land him in prison for a very long time.

Posted by Jim Fetzer at 4:23 AM 0 comments

MORE AT SOURCE (http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/)

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An obvious connection, here....

Day 58 - Where is Eric Braverman?
(Published on Dec 20, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xja4KYUa22A

turiya

22nd December 2016, 04:55

Shuffled things around a bit... Because what is posted below is a continuation from the above post.... Day 58 - Where is Eric Braverman? ....

Day 59 -Where is Eric Braverman?
(Published on Dec 21, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrhV1POBGus____________________________

Day 59 Late Addition - Where is Eric Braverman?
(Published on Dec 21, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-BYdDRbug0____________________________

Day 60 - Where is Eric Braverman?
(Published on Dec 22, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO4zw_dJScM

turiya

22nd December 2016, 12:54

Fake News and the Rise of the New Ministry of Truth...

"FAKE NEWS AGENDA:" & the US Govt.'s
New Propaganda Factory
(Published on Dec 19, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUDNgzlqX30_______________________________________

The Bitter Clingers
12/19/2016
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The Bitter Clingers...
Barack Obama once insulted Americans as being ‘bitter clingers.’ He said they clung to their guns, religion and anti-immigration sentiment as a way to express their frustrations. Hillary later referred to such Americans as ‘deplorable.’ These out of touch statements foreshadowed the election of Trump, because it revealed Hillary and Obama’s contempt for roughly fifty percent of Americans. It showed how the elite were actively working against those Americans who still want freedom and the Constitution. Hillary and Obama instead promoted gun control, an open hemisphere and bigger government.

The globalist oligarchy, including their corporate media arms, have now become the bitter clingers. They continue to lose power and influence and they can’t stand it. The fake news mainstream media have been revealed to be nothing but shrill propaganda organs. People are going elsewhere to find the truth. The status quo politicians are desperately clinging to power and making fools of themselves. Their ridiculous conspiracy theories only prove how out of touch they are with reality.
Their tantrums even include talk of a coup against a lawfully elected president. Their attempt to bully certain electors from the Electoral College will not [failed to] work. Their emotional blubbering and drama only underscores what they really are. They’re collectivist bitter clingers who are desperate. They're spoiled brats who were allowed to get away with their bad behavior for far too long. Times are a-changin’!
Keep on clinging, bitter ones.

Ben Garrison
Website (http://grrrgraphics.com/cartoons/the-bitter-clingers)

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Latest from Branco...

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More on Fake News in Syria... follow the path from Egyptian film maker to Twitter / Facebook social media to MSM... The Telegraph... Huffington Post... Washington Post... The New York Times...

Fake Aleppo: Egyptian filmmaker charged
with spreading false news on Syrian war (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/12/22/fake-aleppo-egyptian-filmmaker-charged-with-spreading-false-news-on-syrian-war/)
(Published on Dec 21, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uijO8FzmBh4

turiya

22nd December 2016, 13:18

:cry: Not to cry.... Trump aids say Trump remains committed to draining swamp...

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Trump No Longer Wants To "Drain The Swamp",
Gingrich Admits (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-21/trump-no-longer-wants-drain-swamp-gingrich-admits)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Dec 21, 2016 2:23 PM
While it will hardly come as a surprise to anyone following the ongoing additions to Trump's cabinet, one can now effectively cross off "draining the swamp" from the list of Trump's stated intentions.

Speaking in an NPR interview on Wednesday, former Speaker Newt Gingrich said that Trump has taken a different tone as president-elect and may be leaving behind his campaign promise to “drain the swamp.” Gingrich told "Morning Edition" that he was told Trump “now says [the phrase] was cute, but he doesn’t want to use it anymore.”

"I'm told he now just disclaims that. He now says it was cute, but he doesn't want to use it anymore," Gingrich said, and also predicted there would be "constant fighting" over Trump's efforts to reduce the influence of lobbyists and Washington insiders. “But, you know, he is my leader, and if he decides to drop the swamp and the alligator I will drop the swamp and the alligator,” he said.

Gingrich, who has been a close adviser to Trump, said he likes "drain the swamp" because it “vividly illustrates the problem, because all people in this city who are the alligators are going to hate the swamp being drained.” It also vividly illustrates why draining the swamp is virtually impossible when even the candidate who runs on such a promise promptly backs away from it once elected.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WePTcHfxqAc

Meanwhile, according to AP, Trump's aides denied and said the president-elect remains committed to his underlying swamp-draining policies, albeit in a lite version, such as banning outgoing Trump transition and administration members from lobbying for five years. Trump also prohibits any lobbyists from joining his transition team or administration unless they de-register.

"President-elect Trump's ethics reform policies are full speed ahead," transition spokesman Jason Miller said. "We're going to change the way business is done in Washington and start putting the American people first."

To be sure, for some, like Ray Dalio, putting mostly business executives and billionaires "first" is a good sign (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-20/ray-dalio-praises-trump-predicts-huge-changes-it-will-be-glorious-be-rich). Others are yet to be convinced.

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"'Drain the swamp'" became a staple of the final month of Trump's campaign, with crowds chanting it as loudly as they had been shouting "build the wall" and "lock her up." The slogan also appeared on T-shirts and signs.

It has remained part of Trump's post-election "thank you" tour. Whether in Ohio or Florida, the crowd continued to shout along with the president-elect as he vowed to curtail corruption in Washington — even as he revealed that he wasn't always crazy about the catchphrase.

"Funny how that term caught on, isn't it?" Trump mused during a rally this month in Des Moines, Iowa. "I tell everyone, I hated it. Somebody said 'drain the swamp' and I said, 'Oh, that is so hokey. That is so terrible.'" "I said, all right, I'll try it," Trump continued. "So like a month ago I said 'drain the swamp' and the place went crazy. And I said 'Whoa, what's this?' Then I said it again. And then I start saying it like I meant it, right? And then I started to love it, and the place loved it. Drain the swamp. It's true. It's true. Drain the swamp."

A seemingly resigned Gingrich told NPR that as the incoming president, perhaps Trump feels that "he should be marginally more dignified" than leading crowds in "lock her up" and "drain the swamp" chants. Gingrich said he supports Trump's ethics reform proposals.

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Meanwhile, a far angrier Mike Krieger lashed out (https://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2016/12/21/newt-gingrich-admits-donald-trump-no-longer-wants-to-drain-the-swamp/), saying "Not that he ever wanted to, but here’s Newt Gingrich admitting what many of us already knew regarding Donald Trump’s fake populism."

As I highlighted in the recent post, The Election Never Ended: "As Anthony Scaramucci, a hedge fund manager and top adviser to Trump, as well as a former Goldman Sachs banker himself, put it Thursday: “I think the cabal against the bankers is over.”

Indeed, as we all know, U.S. government economic policy has been essentially handed over to Goldman Sachs during this transition period. Must be a reward for its most recent settlement for rigging yet another market.

Penalties don’t’t change the behavior of white collar criminals. Jail sentences would, but we don’t see any of that when it comes to bank execs. Thanks for playin’ America.

Well, if Krieger is right and Trump has indeed outsourced the management of the US economy to Goldman, the silver lining is that the inevitable systemic reset will simply come that much faster.

SOURCE (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-21/trump-no-longer-wants-drain-swamp-gingrich-admits)

turiya

22nd December 2016, 17:25

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Someone incorrectly stated that the phrase
"DRAIN THE SWAMP" was no longer being used by me.
Actually, we will always be trying to DTS.

8:41 AM - 22 Dec 2016

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/811975049431416832)

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(12/21/2016)
Hour 3 - Joel Skousen -
World Affairs
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Joel Skousen Website (https://www.worldaffairsbrief.com/)

Topics: Guiliani Fake Twitter Tweet... Tillerson is a globalist... together w/ John Bolton as his under-Secretary... troubling because he doesn't appear to have a 'playbook'... Berlin attack was a false-flag... Amin - a 'fall guy'... Pompeo, a bad choice for CIA Director replacement... for the militarization of police...

Pressure is on for Trump to sell his business dealings... Al Gore... and the Global Warming crowd... Obama's Pardon list... Warning to Trump not to pass too many Executive Orders... Arpaio's news conference on Birth Certificate findings totally ignored by MSM...

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Mainstream Media lies about Syria exposed
by Canadian journalist Eva Bartlett
(Published on Dec 13, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueyWGyddepw_______________________________________

Greg Hunter Weekly News Wrap-Up 12.23.16
(Published on Dec 22, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47kwz7Z3GJI
Published on Dec 22, 2016

Common folks: ISIS = Militants = Syrian Rebels

turiya

23rd December 2016, 01:20

Lindsey Williams has a new DVD out... jsnip4 gives his summary of what is on it...

- NWO has been set back some 50 years...
- Kissinger saw DJT...
- Elite has no control over Trump
- TPTB has revised its agenda... not to fight Trump...
- Trump knows he is surrounding himself w/ these people
- Financial collapse will happen, but not at this time... 1-2-3 years from now...
- War coming in the M.E...
and more...

REALIST NEWS - Lindsey Williams New DVD Summary -
"Elite What Next - Trump Has Won"
(Published on Dec 21, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He4IAsCoqhg____________________________

Rick Wiles interview w/ Gerald Celente - Trends Journal Forecaster: What could be coming in 2017 w/ a Trump Administration?

Gerald Celente / TrueNews Interview
Trends Journal Forecast for 2017
(December 20, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-OrRaabXK0

Notes:

- 2 Russian diplomats taken out... tied to recent Obama threat for retaliation for election intervention [no proof] BS?
- Democrats not going down lightly - keep fomenting more hatred, war, deceit & immorality...
- September 2016 Obama made a threat to Putin - limo driver killed 3 days later...
- Again in late October, Obama on 'red phone' armed threat to Putin - recently Ambassador taken down recently
- Drone strikes by Obama
- Syrian Crisis
- TrueNews, Paul Craig Roberts named "Fake News" site...
- Trump did not just beat Hillary... neocons, MSM, regime-change Warmongers...
- MSM Propaganda Machine...
- Rogue elements in CIA... trying to stop Trump...
- Silicon Valley Hacks...
- Presstitutes... Old Systems are being overthrown...
- Rat Paul Ryan... House Speaker Ryan abandons Trump, says every candidate for themselves (http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-republicans-20161010-snap-story.html)
- Trump Administration selection... who these people are - Generals, Tillerson, Wilbur Ross... Are Not Washington Insiders...
- This time compared to the time of the Civil War...

A Voice from the Mountains

23rd December 2016, 07:47

An early Merry Christmas for the resident Trump supporter community. :)

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Roger Stone told us that if Trump won the election, we'd receive a surprise around Christmas. Maybe has something to do with the ongoing FBI releases and court orders?

turiya

24th December 2016, 02:15

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"His Thoughts Are So Correct":
Trump Releases "Very Nice Letter"
He Received From Putin (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-23/trump-releases-very-nice-letter-he-received-vladimir-putin)
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Dec 23, 2016 11:31 AM
Moments ago, Donald Trump released the following statement in response to a conciliatory letter he has received from Russian president Vladimir Putin, in which the Russian president offers an unprecedented olive branch for future cooperation between the two nations:

"A very nice letter from Vladimir Putin; his thoughts are so correct. I hope both sides are able to live up to these thoughts, and we do not have to travel an alternate path."

In the letter, Putin underscroed the importance of cooperation between the two countries, further hinting at a thawing of the icy relations, as Russia has described them, between Obama and Putin.

"I hope that after you assume the position of the President of the United States of America we will be able – by acting in a constructive and pragmatic manner - to take real steps to restore the framework of bilateral cooperation in different areas as well as bring our level of collaboration on the international scene to a qualitatively new level," the Russian leader wrote.

The letter comes following comments by both Putin and Trump over a build up of nuclear weapons, and speculation of a new arms race with Russia. Trump tweeted on Thursday that he supported strengthening the U.S. nuclear arsenal. Those comments came on the same day that Putin made similar statements about his own country's arsenal.

Trump advisers on Friday sought to downplay the controversy. Trump's incoming White House press secretary, Sean Spicer, insisted that Trump's tweet was actually intended to be a warning to other countries that he would not let U.S. security be threatened by an arms race. “There’s not going to be [an arms race] because he is going to ensure that other countries get the message he is not going to sit back and allow that,” Spicer said on NBC's "Today."

Judging by Putin's tone, the Russian leader does not expect an imminent arms race with the US and instead is hoping for much better relations going forward.

This is what Putin, who has never previously sent a similar letter to a US head of state, said:

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Scribd (https://www.scribd.com/document/334936480/Christmas-Eng#from_embed)

It appears that both Russia and the US are eager for a quick restoration of "sound" bilateral relations following 8 years deterioration under the Obama administration, facilitated by the US State Department, first headed by Hillary Clinton and then John Kerry.

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turiya

24th December 2016, 04:46

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(12/06/2016)
Hour 1 - Attorney Jonathan Emord -
American Political Analysis

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Topics:

- Michael Moore & disruptions planned for Trump Inaguration
- BLM
- Ivanka Trump / JetBlue incident
- Conservative Legislative agenda to be seen in first hundred days
- The Left in difficulty to reform its base in how to regain power
- The attempt to affect Electoral College
- Clinton's favorite candidate to run against defeated them - its devestating them
- Clinton Foundation Investigation is ongoing
- Couldn't do better in Administration picks - e.g. General Mattis -
- Trump's power of persuasion
- Muslims in government - Obama & Brennan - a coup possibility conspiracy attempt? Or, confused liberal sypathetic conception toward enemies?
- Obama's mistaken view that Russia hacked into U.S. elections
- Trump's use of social media to communicate w/ public

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Roger Stone: Plan to Disrupt
2017 Inaguration Uncovered
(Published on Dec 21, 2016)

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Ivanka Trump Harasser Mum
On JetBlue Confrontation
(Published on Dec 22, 2016)

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DNA

24th December 2016, 15:10

Chester

24th December 2016, 19:20

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turiya

24th December 2016, 22:59

"HELP! I’VE FALLEN AND CAN’T GET UP!"

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Bill Ryan

24th December 2016, 23:46

for some of the zip codes that start with a 1 or a 9...

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Here's the text:

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I’m a secular/agnostic Californian and longtime reader of your blog. I’ve enjoyed your books beginning with Crunchy Cons, and have valued your insights over the years.

Though you don’t know me, I feel like I know you and your family. And I want to share with you, from the liberal bastion of Northern California, that I am officially tired of the type of people who have surrounded me my entire life. In the wake of Trump’s election, I am experiencing “tribe fatigue.” I’m not tired of The Other, Detestable Tribe. I’m tired of my own.

A bit about me: I am a [deleted] with two young children. My parents were non-religious Democrats, and my ex-Catholic mom loathes organized religion to this day.

So I was raised a secular liberal. My college professors were secular liberals. During my journalism phase, my newspaper colleagues were secular liberals. My law school professors and peers were – in the vast majority – secular liberals. Almost everyone at my corporate law firm was a secular liberal. My California neighbors and friends are secular liberals, as are my colleagues. My mother, siblings, and their spouses are all secular liberals.

By all rights, I should be a member in good standing of their tribe, “liking” their Facebook posts and joining their candlelight vigils against the evil Trump Administration. But November 8 and its aftermath revealed to me that I am just so tired of these people. I can’t be like them, and I don’t want my kids turning into them.

I am tired of their undisguised contempt for tens of millions of Americans, with no effort to temper their response to the election with humility or empathy.

I am tired of their unexamined snobbery and condescension.

I am tired of their name-calling and virtue-signaling as signs of supposedly high intelligence.

I am tired of their trendiness, jumping on every left-liberal bandwagon that comes along (transgender activism, anyone?) and then acting like anyone not on board is an idiot/hater.

I am tired of their shallowness. It’s hard to have a deep conversation with people who are obsessed with moving their kids’ pawns across the board (grades, sports, college, grad school, career) and, in their spare time, entertaining themselves and taking great vacations.

I am tired of their acceptance of vulgarity and sarcastic irreverence as the cultural ocean in which their kids swim. I like pop culture as much as the next person, but people who would never raise their kids on junk food seem to think nothing of letting then wallow in cultural junk, exposed to nothing ennobling, aspirational, or even earnest.

I am tired of watching them raise clueless kids (see above) who go off to college and within months are convinced they live in a rapey, racist patriarchy; “Make America Great Again” is hate speech; and Black Lives Matter agitators are their brothers-in-arms against White Privilege. If my kids are like that at nineteen, I’ll feel I’ve seriously failed them as a parent.

Yet the general sentiment seems to be these are good, liberal kids who may have gotten a bit carried away.

I am tired of their lack of interest in any form of serious morality or self-betterment. These are decent, responsible people, many compassionate by temperament. Yet they seem two-dimensional, as if they believe that being a nice, well-socialized person who holds the correct political views is all there is, and there is nothing else to talk about. Isn’t there, though?

I am tired of being bored and exasperated by everybody. I feel like I have read this book a thousand times, and there are no surprises in it. Down with Trump! Trans Lives Matter! Climate deniers are destroying the planet! No cake, we’re gluten-free!

These are good people in a lot of ways. But there has got to be a better tribe.

That leads me to . . . drum roll . . . the Christian Right. It is no small feat, switching tribes. It feels stressful and weird to abandon your tribe for the Detested Other Side.

Since November 8, my husband and I have been taking the kids to church. (He is politically conservative with a religious bent, so no argument there.) I have come this close to buying a giant poster of the American flag for the living room. I may do it still.

Right now, I am struggling to accept the basic Christian doctrines (virgin birth, resurrection, second coming) because I feel the Christian tribe may be the right tribe for my family. We just finished watching a BBC miniseries about the birth of Jesus, which was so beautiful and moving compared to secular TV. My nine-year-old really enjoyed it. I want to prepare my kids to live according to some unchanging truth, not subject to every passing trend, and this felt like a start. But I worry that an inability to believe in the supernatural aspects of the faith will limit my ability to be a “real” Christian.

Last Sunday’s sermon mentioned 1 Peter:18-19, “For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your ancestors.” This may be obvious to you, but secular liberalism does seem empty in some way, despite all the things my educated, middle-class tribe has to be grateful for. If that’s what’s been handed down to me, I want more, especially for my precious kids. I’m trying.

turiya

25th December 2016, 07:30

Trump vs Media
(Published on Dec 24, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXnsnajCRD8

Antagenet

26th December 2016, 01:19

Merry Christmas!!!!

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turiya

26th December 2016, 04:16

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A Loser's Malice: What's Behind
Obama's Attacks On Putin (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-12/paul-joseph-watson-dismantles-fabricated-russian-narrative-created-butt-hurt-leftist)

By Michael Jabara CARLEY via Strategic-Culture.org, (http://www.strategic-culture.org/authors/michael-jabara-carley.html) | WORLD
Dec 23, 2016
Relations between Russian president Vladimir Putin and US president Barack Obama are poisoned and irretrievably damaged. It’s therefore a good thing that Obama is leaving office on 20 January. Bad US-Russian relations are of course nothing new. Since the Anglo-American war against Iraq in 2003, the US-Russian relationship has been headed downhill. For Obama, it appears that everything has gotten personal. The US president often acts like a petulant adolescent, jealous of a high school rival. You know, the kid who does everything better than he does. The lad takes it badly and won’t let it go. He challenges his nemesis to some new contest at every opportunity only to lose again and again. That’s got to be hard on the ego. Between Obama and Putin there have been many such encounters. Nor can it help that western cartoonists so often ridicule Obama as out of his depth in comparison to Putin.

Let’s consider Obama’s remarks at his last press conference (https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/12/16/press-conference-president) on Friday, 16 December.

«The Russians can’t change us or significantly weaken us», said Obama: «They are a smaller country. They are a weaker country. Their economy doesn’t produce anything that anybody wants to buy, except oil and gas and arms. They don’t innovate».
This was insulting both Putin and his country, but not enough apparently for Obama.

«They [the Russians] can impact us if we lose track of who we are. They can impact us if we abandon our values. Mr. Putin can weaken us, just like he’s trying to weaken Europe, if we start buying into notions that it’s okay to intimidate the press, or lock up dissidents, or discriminate against people because of their faith or what they look like».

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Western cartoonists so often ridicule Obama as out of his depth in comparison to Putin

What on earth is Mr. Obama talking about? Intimidate the press? The Moscow newspapers and television media are loaded with «liberals». Many Russians call them «fifth columnists». They are «people with ‘more advanced’ worldview[s] who do not tolerate ‘Russian propaganda’ themselves», according to one colleague in Moscow. But Mr. Putin tolerates them and pays them no mind.

«Lock up dissidents… discriminate against people»? What alternate reality does Mr. Obama live in? Doesn’t produce anything people want to buy? The United States buys rocket engines that it does not now produce at home. Maybe the Americans, a Russian commentator joked, can use high tech trampolines to get into space and do without Russian technology.

In an interview the previous day with the American National Public Radio Obama ranted about Putin. It must have been a rehearsal for his press conference. «This is somebody, the former head of the KGB», said Obama, «who is responsible for crushing democracy in Russia… countering American efforts to expand freedom at every turn; is currently making decisions that's leading to a slaughter in Syria». What stupefying hypocrisy; what utter nonsense. Putin was a lieutenant colonel in the KGB, but never its head, and he certainly has not «crushed democracy in Russia». He even treats his political opposition with respect compared to Obama who dismisses president-elect Donald Trump as some kind of Russian Manchurian candidate. The Russians, according to Obama, interfered in the US presidential elections, and helped defeat fellow Democrat Hillary Clinton. They hacked the Democratic National Committee’s hard drive and passed thousands of emails to WikiLeaks, although, according to others, an outraged Clinton insider leaked the cache of embarrassing emails. Obama has dismissed that possibility. The Russians did the hack, he insists , and Putin must be held personally responsible.

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In Syria, the United States and its NATO and regional vassals are waging a war of aggression against the legitimate government in Damascus, backing jihadist terrorists

Where’s the evidence? In Moscow, an angry Putin challenged Obama to put up or shut up. This is a hard thing for Obama to do. The Russians, he says, «counter American efforts to expand freedom at every turn». One wonders where that would be. In the Ukraine where the United States and European Union backed and guided the coup d’état against the democratically elected Ukrainian government? Or in Syria where the United States and its NATO and regional vassals are waging a war of aggression against the legitimate government in Damascus, backing jihadist terrorists? How many democratic governments or popularly supported political movements has the United States plotted against or destroyed since 1945? The list is long, including the 1996 Russian presidential election.

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Remember 2013, when the US government started a propaganda campaign about Syrian chemical weapons and warned of «red lines» that could not be crossed?

Obama directly raised the issue of Syria during his NPR interview. The liberation of E. Aleppo from Al-Qaeda and other jihadists has infuriated the west. To the everlasting shame of France, the Eiffel Tower was darkened to mourn the defeat of Al-Qaeda. The Mainstream Media (MSM) is up in arms. Russia, Iran, Hezbollah, Palestinian and Iraqi militias have helped the Syrian Arab Army to cleanse Aleppo of jihadist terrorists, and thwart the United States and its vassals. This is what galls Obama, being outmanoeuvred by a lesser man than he and a lesser country than the United States. How deplorable to speak of the liberation of E. Aleppo as «a slaughter in Syria».

Obama’s frustrations began several years ago. Remember back in 2013, when the US government started a propaganda campaign about Syrian chemical weapons and warned of «red lines» that could not be crossed? Apparently, the US government came within an ace or two of launching massive air attacks on Syria. Putin intervened and the Syrian government gave up its chemical weapons, removing the US pretext for intervention. The print media had a field day showing Putin helping Obama out of a corner of his own making. All the while, Putin kept urging Russian-US cooperation against the jihadists in Syria, trying to draw the United States away from its ruinous policies. To no avail. Who then acted with greater statesmanship, Putin or Obama?

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In 2013, when the US government started a propaganda campaign about Syrian chemical weapons, Putin intervened and the Syrian government gave up its chemical weapons, removing the US pretext for intervention. The print media had a field day showing Putin helping Obama out of a corner of his own making.

Temporarily thwarted in Syria, the United States opened up a new front on Russia’s southern frontier in the Ukraine. It backed the coup d’état in Kiev and turned a blind eye to the fascist vanguard, which kept the new Ukrainian junta in power. «The fascists are just ‘a few bad apples’», officials said in Washington, thinking that NATO had scored a great victory in getting its hands on Sevastopol so it could kick the Russian Black Sea fleet out of its traditional home base.

You have to give credit to Obama; he was ambitious, aiming for a big prize and the humiliation of Russia and its president. Again, he was thwarted not so much by President Putin but by the Russian people of the Crimea who immediately mobilised their local self-defence units backed by «polite people», Russian marines stationed in Sevastopol, to kick out the Ukrainians with scarcely a shot fired. They organised a referendum to approve entry into the Russian Federation. Reunification was quickly approved by a huge majority and celebrated in Moscow. Putin gave a remarkably candid speech (http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/20603), explaining the Russian position. «NATO remains a military alliance,’ he said, «and we are against having a military alliance making itself at home right in our backyard or in our historic territory. I simply cannot imagine that we would travel to Sevastopol to visit NATO sailors. Of course, most of them are wonderful guys, but it would be better to have them come and visit us, be our guests, rather than the other way round».

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«NATO remains a military alliance,’ he said, «and we are against having a military alliance making itself at home right in our backyard or in our historic territory», Putin said

It all happened so quickly, Obama must have looked on, dumbfounded, sputtering with angry frustration at having been outmanoeuvred by Crimean Russians who knew a thing or two after all about «innovating» and defending their land. Russians in the eastern Ukraine also resisted, taking up arms to defend themselves against Kiev’s fascist battalions.

That was too much. Putin became Obama’s nemesis. The US president struck back with economic sanctions, which his European vassals quickly endorsed. When Malaysian Airlines, MH17, was shot down over the eastern Ukraine, Obama and the EU at once accused Putin of being responsible without a shred of evidence. In fact, the available evidence points to the Kiev junta as the guilty party, but the MSM paid no attention. It ran an orchestrated propaganda campaign leading to harder sanctions against Russia intended to sabotage the Russian economy and break the Russian government.

Obama and his advisors again miscalculated. The Russian government instituted its own sanctions against the EU, and looked for other sources of supply or replaced foreign imports with Russian products. «We can do without Polish apples and French cheese», most Russians thought. «Liberals» sulked over the loss of their camembert, but that’s a small price to pay for Russian independence. Obama was outsmarted again by Russians who, he insists, can’t innovate. As for the EU, it suffered huge economic losses because of sanctions at American behest in a classic case of shooting oneself in the foot. It’s getting to be a habit; the EU has again renewed its sanctions against Russia.

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The EU has suffered huge economic losses because of its anti-Russia sanctions at American behest in a classic case of shooting oneself in the foot.

Whilst the Ukrainian crisis dragged on, Obama had to turn his attention back to Syria. In the autumn of 2015, Putin ordered Russian aerospace and naval forces to intervene on behalf of the hard-pressed Syrian government which asked for assistance against the western-backed jihadist invasion. The tide of battle slowly turned. Again, Obama was caught off guard; again, the US plan to overthrow the Syrian government was thwarted by Obama’s nemesis. The United States tried bogus truces to allow its jihadist mercenaries to refit and resupply. At first, the Russians did not seem to catch on, accepting American proposals as genuine. They had to learn the hard way, but they did eventually. The liberation of E. Aleppo, although overshadowed by the simultaneous loss of Palmyra, is another blow to Obama’s policies and to his fragile ego.

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How could this «weaker… smaller country» outsmart the all-powerful Mr. Obama and the great US Hegemon?

No wonder the US president is lashing out at Putin, publically insulting him and his country. No wonder the MSM is up in arms. How could this «weaker… smaller country» outsmart the all-powerful Mr. Obama and the great US Hegemon?

Like the USSR before it, Russia has always had to pursue a politique du faible, a poor man’s policies, never having the abundant resources of it western adversaries. Russians learned early on to innovate. The fox has to make its way in a world full of dangerous wolves.

What Obama must hate most of all is Putin’s exposure of US support for Al-Qaeda and the Islamic State. Who indeed is responsible for the «slaughter» in Syria? Obama calls it fighting for democracy. «Airstrike democracy», Putin once derisively replied. «Do you realise what you have done?» Putin asked at the UN in 2015, shocking the MSM. Obviously not, if one is to judge by Obama’s remarks of the last few days. He’s still the obsessive adolescent with doubts about himself and in over his head against a real statesman. Thank heavens Obama is on his way out the door of the White House. It’s not a minute too soon. Olliver Cromwell’s famous remark in 1653 to the Rump Parliament seems apposite. «You have sat too long for any good you have been doing lately... Depart, I say; and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!»

SOURCE (http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/12/23/loser-malice-what-behind-obama-attacks-putin.html)

turiya

26th December 2016, 11:51

OBAMA AFTER JANUARY 20TH...

OBAMA AFTER JANUARY 20TH...
(Published December 26, 2016)

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turiya

26th December 2016, 19:02

To Left-Wing Millennials...

DUMBEST MOST RACIST VIDEO EVER
(Published on Dec 21, 2016)

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turiya

27th December 2016, 14:21

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Russia Warns Any Attempt By Obama
To Arm Syrian Rebels Will Be Seen
As A "Hostile Act" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-27/russia-warns-any-attempt-obama-arm-syrian-rebels-will-be-seen-hostile-act)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Dec 27, 2016 8:02 AM
First, it was China which lodged a protest against the US defense bill, which was signed by Barack Obama late on Friday and which, among other things, contained a provision to establish as US "ministry of truth" and media propaganda. On Sunday, China lodged (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-taiwan-idUSKBN14F002) "stern representations" with the United States after Obama signed the NDAA into law which suggests a plan to conduct high-level military exchanges with self-ruled Taiwan. Part of the $618.7 billion National Defense Authorization Act "expresses the sense of Congress that (the U.S. Department of Defense) should conduct a program of senior military exchanges between the United States and Taiwan".

In other words, it appears the Trump team is not the only one jeopardising the "One China" policy: as Reuters adds (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-taiwan-idUSKBN14F002), in a statement late Sunday, China's Foreign Ministry said it had lodged a protest with the United States over the Taiwan content of the act and expressed its strong opposition. Taiwan is Chinese territory and purely an internal matter, the ministry said.

It noted that the part of the defense policy bill referring to Taiwan was not legally binding, but said it was an interference with China's internal affairs that China could not accept.

"We urge the U.S. side to abide by its promises made to China on the Taiwan issue, stop U.S.-Taiwan military contacts and arms sales to Taiwan, to avoid damaging Sino-U.S. ties and peace and stability in the Taiwan Strait."

Then, overnight, Russia also joined the global opposition to the US defense policy bill when it said on Tuesday that a U.S. decision to ease some restrictions on arming Syrian rebels had opened the way for deliveries of shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles (http://russia-insider.com/sites/insider/files/MANPADS_improvised.jpg), a move it said would directly threaten Russian forces in Syria.

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According to Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-russia-usa-idUSKBN14G0K0?il=0), Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said the policy change easing some restrictions on weapons supplies to rebels was set out in a new U.S. defense spending bill signed by Obama while on his last vacation as US president in Hawaii, and that Moscow regarded the step as a hostile act.

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"In the administration of B. Obama they must understand that any weapons handed over will quickly end up in the hands of jihadists with whom the sham 'moderate' opposition have long acted jointly," Zakharova said in a statement. "Such a decision is a direct threat to the Russian air force, to other Russian military personnel, and to our embassy in Syria, which has come under fire more than once. We therefore view the step as a hostile one."

Cited by Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-russia-usa-idUSKBN14G0K0?il=0), Zakharova accused the Obama administration of trying to "put a mine" under the incoming administration of President-elect Donald Trump by attempting to get it to continue what she called Washington's "anti-Russian line."

To be sure, any sabotage attempts by Obama be faced with an uphill climb: a back-and-forth exchange between Trump and Putin over nuclear weapons last week tested the Republican's promises to improve relations with Russia.

The Obama administration and U.S. intelligence officials have accused Russia of trying to interfere with the U.S. election by hacking Democratic Party accounts. Russia, meanwhile, has laughed at these accusations, and last week Putin slammed the Democrats as "shameless losers" in his annual year-end press conference (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-23/putin-slams-us-democratic-party-shameless-losers-says-russia-alone-believed-trumps-v), saying "the party that is called the Democrats has clearly forgotten the original meaning of that name" and added that "the use of administrative resources (by the Democrats) is absolutely shameless."

SOURCE (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-27/russia-warns-any-attempt-obama-arm-syrian-rebels-will-be-seen-hostile-act)

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George Webb Related Video regarding the above mentioned "shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles" in Syria [Stingers in the first minute(s)]....

George Webb also suggests that this type of weapon would be used to take down U.S. jets, and it could be also used to take Trump's plane down [@ 1:35]... my sense suggests that this notion is in the plans of those that are opposed to Trump moving forward, hower a successful attempt is not in the cards... something to take note of & watch for in future...

Day 63 - Where is Eric Braverman? Part 2
(Published on Dec 25, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bV_vAn9hys

Again, George Webb mentions Stingers & Trump's Plane at 3:19 with regard to the upcoming Davos meeting which happens just prior to Trump's January 20th inauguration...

Day 65 - Where is Eric Braverman? Part 3,
Researcher Version
(Published on Dec 27, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvW4k3hDfLQ?t=3m19s

A Voice from the Mountains

28th December 2016, 02:52

Day 65 - Where is Eric Braverman? Part 3,
Researcher Version
(Published on Dec 27, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvW4k3hDfLQ?t=3m19s

When he starts dropping hints about his investigations into child trafficking in the 1980s, it almost sounds to me like he's hinting at the idea that the compound in Waco was being used to hold children who were being trafficked, and that's why they were also stocked up on so many firearms. If that's the case then it sounds like he's suggesting that Waco was taken out because of what he's referring to as "beta males" who aren't in on the whole operation but work around these people nonetheless, and I suppose become liabilities in a certain way.

onawah

28th December 2016, 19:29

Trump and the Jesuits; these views from Prof. Veith of Trump are very necessary to get a clearer and broader picture of how he really figures in, imho.

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(Also posted here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94907-Trump-is-NOT-the-answer&p=1123278&viewfull=1#post1123278 )

turiya

29th December 2016, 01:09

Day 65 - Where is Eric Braverman? Part 3,
Researcher Version
(Published on Dec 27, 2016)
[video=youtube;JvW4k3hDfLQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvW4k3hDfLQ?t=3m19s

When he starts dropping hints about his investigations into child trafficking in the 1980s, it almost sounds to me like he's hinting at the idea that the compound in Waco was being used to hold children who were being trafficked, and that's why they were also stocked up on so many firearms. If that's the case then it sounds like he's suggesting that Waco was taken out because of what he's referring to as "beta males" who aren't in on the whole operation but work around these people nonetheless, and I suppose become liabilities in a certain way.

Yes, Waco passed by my window... its hard to say...
One thing, though... Hillary was awfully keen on having Reno burn the place leaving nothing but ashes...

Trump - The Shark vs The Piranhas - Politicians on both the Left & the Right.

Warren Pollock: Clinton & Trump
Will Fight to the Death
(Published on Dec 27, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq3lS0oo9YM

turiya

29th December 2016, 04:46

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What is Henry Kissinger Up To? (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/12/28/what-is-henry-kissinger-up-to-paul-craig-roberts/)
— Paul Craig Roberts
December 28, 2016

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The English language Russian news agency, Sputnik reports (https://sputniknews.com/politics/201612271049024500-kissinger-trump-russia/) that former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger is advising US president-elect Donald Trump how to “bring the United States and Russia closer together to offset China’s military buildup.”

If we take this report at face value, it tells us that Kissinger, an old cold warrior, is working to use Trump’s commitment to better relations with Russia in order to separate Russia from its strategic alliance with China.

China’s military buildup is a response to US provocations against China and US claims to the South China Sea as an area of US national interests. China does not intend to attack the US and certainly not Russia.

Kissinger, who was my colleague at the Center for Strategic and International studies for a dozen years, is aware of the pro-American elites inside Russia, and he is at work creating for them a “China threat” that they can use in their effort to lead Russia into the arms of the West. If this effort is successful, Russia’s sovereignty will be eroded exactly as has the sovereignty of every other country allied with the US.

At President Putin’s last press conference (https://youtu.be/dqIPHhQCcH8), journalist Marat Sagadatov asked if Russia wasn’t already subject to forms of foreign semi-domination: “Our economy, industry, ministries and agencies often follow the rules laid down by international organizations and are managed by consulting companies. Even our defense enterprises have foreign consulting firms auditing them.” The journalist asked, “if it is not time to do some import substitution in this area too?”

Every Russian needs to understand that being part of the West means living by Washington’s rules. The only country in the Western Alliance that has an independent foreign and economic policy is the US.

All of us need to understand that although Trump has been elected president, the neoconservatives remain dominant in US foreign policy, and their commitment to the hegemony of the US as the uni-power remains as strong as ever. The neoconservative ideology has been institutionalized in parts of the CIA, State Department and Pentagon. The neoconservatives retain their influence in media, think tanks, university faculties, foundations, and in the Council on Foreign Relations.

We also need to understand that Trump revels in the role of tough guy and will say things that can be misinterpreted as my friend, Finian Cunningham, whose columns I read (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/46103.htm), usually with appreciation, might have done.

I do not know that Trump will prevail over the vast neoconservative conspiracy. However, it seems clear enough that he is serious about reducing the tensions with Russia that have been building since President Clinton violated the George H. W. Bush administration’s promise that NATO would not expand one inch to the East. Unless Trump were serious, there is no reason for him to announce Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson as his choice for Secretary of State. In 2013 Mr. Tillerson was awarded Russia’s Order of Friendship.

As Professor Michel Chossudovsky has pointed out, a global corporation such as Exxon has interests different from those of the US military/security complex. The military/security complex needs a powerful threat, such as the former “Soviet threat” which has been transformed into the “Russian threat,” in order to justify its hold on an annual budget of approximately one trillion dollars. In contrast, Exxon wants to be part of the Russian energy business. Therefore, as Secretary of State, Tillerson is motivated to achieve good relations between the US and Russia, whereas for the military/security complex good relations undermine the orchestrated fear on which the military/security budget rests.

Clearly, the military/security complex and the neoconservatives see Trump and Tillerson as threats, which is why the neoconservatives and the armaments tycoons so strongly opposed Trump and why CIA Director John Brennan made wild and unsupported accusations of Russian interference in the US presidential election.

The lines are drawn. The next test will be whether Trump can obtain Senate confirmation of his choice of Tillerson as Secretary of State.

The myth is widespread that President Reagan won the cold war by breaking the Soviet Union financially with an arms race. As one who was involved in Reagan’s effort to end the cold war, I find myself yet again correcting the record.

Reagan never spoke of winning the cold war. He spoke of ending it. Other officials in his government have said the same thing, and Pat Buchanan can verify it.

Reagan wanted to end the Cold War, not win it. He spoke of those “godawful” nuclear weapons. He thought the Soviet economy was in too much difficulty to compete in an arms race. He thought that if he could first cure the stagflation that afflicted the US economy, he could force the Soviets to the negotiating table by going through the motion of launching an arms race. “Star wars” was mainly hype. (Whether or nor the Soviets believed the arms race threat, the American leftwing clearly did and has never got over it.)

Reagan had no intention of dominating the Soviet Union or collapsing it. Unlike Clinton, George W. Bush, and Obama, he was not controlled by neoconservatives. Reagan fired and prosecuted the neoconservatives in his administration when they operated behind his back and broke the law.

The Soviet Union did not collapse because of Reagan’s determination to end the Cold War. The Soviet collapse was the work of hardline communists, who believed that Gorbachev was loosening the Communist Party’s hold so quickly that Gorbachev was a threat to the existence of the Soviet Union and placed him under house arrest. It was the hardline communist coup against Gorbachev that led to the rise of Yeltsin. No one expected the collapse of the Soviet Union.

The US military/security complex did not want Reagan to end the Cold War, as the Cold War was the foundation of profit and power for the complex. The CIA told Reagan that if he renewed the arms race, the Soviets would win, because the Soviets controlled investment and could allocate a larger share of the economy to the military than Reagan could.

Reagan did not believe the CIA’s claim that the Soviet Union could prevail in an arms race. He formed a secret committee and gave the committee the power to investigate the CIA’s claim that the US would lose an arms race with the Soviet Union. The committee concluded that the CIA was protecting its prerogatives. I know this because I was a member of the committee.

American capitalism and the social safety net would function much better without the drain on the budget of the military/security complex. It is more correct to say that the military/security complex wants a major threat, not an actual arms race. Stateless Muslim terrorists are not a sufficient threat for such a massive US military, and the trouble with an actual arms race as opposed to a threat is that the US armaments corporations would have to produce weapons that work instead of cost overruns that boost profits.

The latest US missile ship has twice broken down and had to be towed into port. The F-35 has cost endless money, has a variety of problems - It won't stand a chance in real combat (http://www.stopthef35.com/pentagon-f-35-wont-have-a-chance-in-real-combat/), and is already outclassed. The Russian missiles are hypersonic. The Russian tanks are superior. The explosive power of the Russian Satan II ICBM is terrifying. The morale of the Russian forces is high. They have not been exhausted from 15 years of fighting without much success pointless wars against women and children.

Washington, given the corrupt nature of the US military/security complex, can arms race all it wants without being a danger to Russia or China, much less to the strategic alliance between the two powers.

The neoconservatives are discredited, but they are still a powerful influence on US foreign policy. Until Trump relegates them to the ideological backwaters, Russia and China had best hold on to their strategic alliance. Anyone attempting to break this alliance is a threat to both Russia and China, and to America and to life on earth.

SOURCE (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/12/28/what-is-henry-kissinger-up-to-paul-craig-roberts/)

A Voice from the Mountains

29th December 2016, 05:33

turiya

29th December 2016, 13:15

I don't trust Kissinger either but I'm 100% for more military build-up under a Trump administration because I think he's serious when he says he doesn't want to use it. It's the old "talk softly but carry a big stick" philosophy that Teddy Roosevelt advocated. Teddy Roosevelt loved war to a somewhat sickening degree but he did manage to keep the US out of it as president.

Well said... And, agree with your thoughts on Kissinger...
Putin's response to the nuclear build-up question @ 9:51. Also his comment on the Obama claim regarding Russia hacking into DNC / election process: https://youtu.be/dqIPHhQCcH8?t=9m51s

turiya

29th December 2016, 17:24

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Federal Appeals Court Revives Hillary Email Case
Leaving Key Decision To Trump's Attorney General (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-28/federal-appeals-court-revives-hillary-email-case-leaving-decision-trumps-attorney-ge)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Dec 28, 2016 6:34 PM
A federal appeals court for the District of Columbia has breathed new life into the Hillary email-gate scandal which will be music to the ears of Trump's "lock her up" supporters. The case was filed by watchdog groups Judicial Watch and Cause of Action seeking to force the State Department to instruct the Department of Justice to file a federal records suit to recover Hillary's missing emails. A lower court had previously ruled that the State Department's efforts to recover Hillary's emails were sufficient and threw the cases out. But D.C. Circuit Judge Stephen Williams (http://www.peteregeli.com/images/photos/williamsbig.jpg), a Ronald Reagan appointee, had a different view. Per The Hill (http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/311971-court-resurrects-clinton-email-suits-seeking-ag-involvement):

U.S. District Court Judge James Boasberg had previously ruled that state’s efforts to recover the documents — tens of thousands of which Clinton turned over voluntarily in 2014 — were sufficient and threw out the cases.

But the three-judge appeals court panel on Tuesday said that State had not done enough.

"Even though those efforts bore some fruit, the Department has not explained why shaking the tree harder — e.g., by following the statutory mandate to seek action by the Attorney General — might not bear more still,” D.C. Circuit Judge Stephen Williams, a Ronald Reagan appointee, wrote in the court’s opinion. “It is therefore abundantly clear that, in terms of assuring government recovery of emails, appellants have not 'been given everything [they] asked for.”

“Absent a showing that the requested enforcement action could not shake loose a few more emails, the case is not moot.”

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While the new opinion acknowledges that DOJ involvement would be rendered moot if the defendants could provide definitive proof that additional efforts wouldn't result in the recovery of additional emails, it also highlights that no such "factual support" has been presented to date.

Tuesday’s ruling does not order the State Department to make the referral to the DOJ — nor does it obligate DOJ to sue Clinton if presented with a referral.

But the language of the ruling does appear to suggest that the court considers the possibility that the DOJ’s involvement could uncover more emails.

“While the case might well also be moot if a referral were pointless (e.g., because no imaginable enforcement action by the Attorney General could lead to recovery of the missing emails), the record here provides no factual support for finding mootness on that basis,” Williams wrote.

Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton praised the ruling saying that it is now up to the Trump administration to determine whether they would like to "finally enforce the rule of law and try to retrieve all the emails Clinton and her aides unlawfully took with them when they left the State Department."

“The courts seem to be fed up with the Obama administration’s refusal to enforce the rule of law on the Clinton emails,” Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton said in a statement.

“This ruling means that the Trump Justice Department will have to decide if it wants to finally enforce the rule of law and try to retrieve all the emails Clinton and her aides unlawfully took with them when they left the State Department.”

Of course, Trump has waffled on the issue of pursuing Hillary's latest scandal any further. After once telling her during a debate that she'd "be in jail" if he were President, Trump has since said that he has no interest in hurting the Clintons...a stance that we suspect may anger some of his supporters.

ZEROHEDGE (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-28/federal-appeals-court-revives-hillary-email-case-leaving-decision-trumps-attorney-ge)

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Related George Webb Sweigert Video regarding the above ruling 'Real Justice' taking place.... at 3:16

Day 67 (Pt 1): Where is Eric Braverman? Neil Brown?
(Published on Dec 29, 2016)

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Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch

Published on Dec 29, 2016

Real Justice vs. Social Justice, Eric Braverman or Neil Brown in CF's New Shadow White House?

FB Group #HRCRatLine (https://www.youtube.com/results?q=%23HRCRatLine)

Due to the very large number of citations and sources, I now publish them with each slide. I try to order New York Times Pulitzers first, then former NYT Pulitzer winners, then New York Times writers. Any other reputable source like WaPo, WaTimes, Tribune, LA Times, Seattle P-I, etc are then list. Then second tier media followed by alternative media.

Murdered journalist and investigators get a higher ranking than remotely sourced stories through offshore news funnels like SOHR.

https://docs.google.com/presentation/... (https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1X2ZNdpHMx23Nm-pGZULrBbU6SxpfiNMId6KXqe3deIE/edit#slide=id.g1906d72a88_0_0)

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P.S. The following message (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrQ-wHKVi0JDWjQGcuoYnew) was posted one week ago by George Webb on his youtube channel:

"I am going to throw some dead man switch info out there just in case. I'm George Webb Sweigert from Portland, Oregon. If the videos stop, check the news and carry on the torch."

TargeT

29th December 2016, 20:22

I don't like the sound of this... what evidence was this based on???

Obama orders Russia expulsions, sanctions for interference in 2016 election
President Barack Obama on Thursday ordered the expulsion of 35 Russian diplomats and sanctioned Russian intelligence officials who Washington believes were involved in hacking U.S. political groups in the 2016 presidential election.

The measures, taken during the last days of Obama's presidency, mark a new low in U.S.-Russian relations which have deteriorated over serious differences on Ukraine and Syria.
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"These actions follow repeated private and public warnings that we have issued to the Russian government, and are a necessary and appropriate response to efforts to harm U.S. interests in violation of established international norms of behavior," Obama said in a statement from vacation in Hawaii.

It was not immediately clear whether President-elect Donald Trump, who has repeatedly praised Russian President Vladimir Putin and nominated people seen as friendly toward Moscow to senior administration posts, would seek to roll back the measures once he takes office on Jan. 20.

Obama is seeking to deter Russia and other foreign governments from leveraging cyber attacks in the future to meddle in U.S. politics, former officials and cyber security experts said.

Obama has been under growing pressure from within his own administration and lawmakers of both political parties to respond more forcefully to the cyber attacks, which included leaked emails of Democratic Party operatives that became part of the media coverage in the campaign for the Nov. 8 presidential election.

The Russian foreign ministry said on Thursday the sanctions were counter-productive and would harm the restoration of bilateral ties. Moscow denies the hacking allegation.

Obama sanctioned two Russian intelligence agencies, the GRU and the FSB, four GRU officers and three companies "that provided material support to the GRU’s cyber operations.

PERSONA NON GRATA

Obama said the State Department declared as "persona non grata" 35 Russian intelligence operatives and is closing two Russian compounds in New York and Maryland that were used by Russian personnel for "intelligence-related purposes". The State Department originally said the 35 were diplomats.

A senior U.S. official told Reuters the move would affect the Russian embassy in Washington and consulate in San Francisco.

The Russians have 72 hours to leave the United States, the official said. Access to the two compounds, which are used by Russian officials for intelligence gathering, will be denied to all Russian officials as of noon on Friday, the senior U.S. official added.
"These actions were taken to respond to Russian harassment of American diplomats and actions by the diplomats that we have assessed to be not consistent with diplomatic practice," the official said.

The State Department has long complained that Russian security agents and traffic police have harassed U.S. diplomats in Moscow, and U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry has raised the issue with Putin and his foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov.

"By imposing costs on the Russian diplomats in the United States, by denying them access to the two facilities, we hope the Russian government reevaluates its own actions, which have impeded the ability and safety of our own embassy personnel in Russia," the official said.

The U.S. official declined to name the Russian diplomats who would be affected, although it is understood that Russia's ambassador to the United States, Sergei Kislyak, will not be one of those expelled.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-cyber-idUSKBN14I1TY

turiya

30th December 2016, 17:35

I don't like the sound of this... what evidence was this based on???
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-cyber-idUSKBN14I1TY

All this is dependent on is the 'Top Secret - Highly Classified - National Security purposes.... that is all that the Deep State has to keep running its shadow government. We are just at the beginnings of the seemingly 'new' war that will be ongoing for the next 4-8 years. Obama is to be kept around Washington D.C., as the 'front man' to run this shadow government while physically occupying its "Shadow White House"...

Ed Klein: It seems Obama is having a tough time letting go
(Published on Dec 28, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r21OKnhL58s__________________________________

And, no doubt, it will be George Soros footing the bill on this 'shadow White House'...

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George Soros Conjures Hitler
In Attack On 'Ascendant Populists',
Warns "Democracy Is Now In Crisis" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-28/george-soros-conjures-hitler-attack-ascendant-populists-warns-democracy-now-crisis)

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http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Dec 29, 2016 6:42 AM
Authored by George Soros,
originally posted at Project Syndicate (https://www.project-syndicate.org/onpoint/open-society-needs-defending-by-george-soros-2016-12),

Well before Donald Trump was elected President of the United States, I sent a holiday greeting to my friends that read: “These times are not business as usual. Wishing you the best in a troubled world.” Now I feel the need to share this message with the rest of the world. But before I do, I must tell you who I am and what I stand for.

I am an 86-year-old Hungarian Jew who became a US citizen after the end of World War II. I learned at an early age how important it is what kind of political regime prevails. The formative experience of my life was the occupation of Hungary by Hitler’s Germany in 1944. I probably would have perished had my father not understood the gravity of the situation. He arranged false identities for his family and for many other Jews; with his help, most survived.

In 1947, I escaped from Hungary, by then under Communist rule, to England. As a student at the London School of Economics, I came under the influence of the philosopher Karl Popper, and I developed my own philosophy, built on the twin pillars of fallibility and reflexivity. I distinguished between two kinds of political regimes: those in which people elected their leaders, who were then supposed to look after the interests of the electorate, and others where the rulers sought to manipulate their subjects to serve the rulers’ interests. Under Popper’s influence, I called the first kind of society open, the second, closed.

The classification is too simplistic. There are many degrees and variations throughout history, from well-functioning models to failed states, and many different levels of government in any particular situation. Even so, I find the distinction between the two regime types useful. I became an active promoter of the former and opponent of the latter.

I find the current moment in history very painful. Open societies are in crisis, and various forms of closed societies – from fascist dictatorships to mafia states – are on the rise. How could this happen? The only explanation I can find is that elected leaders failed to meet voters’ legitimate expectations and aspirations and that this failure led electorates to become disenchanted with the prevailing versions of democracy and capitalism. Quite simply, many people felt that the elites had stolen their democracy.

After the collapse of the Soviet Union, the US emerged as the sole remaining superpower, equally committed to the principles of democracy and free markets. The major development since then has been the globalization of financial markets, spearheaded by advocates who argued that globalization increases total wealth. After all, if the winners compensated the losers, they would still have something left over.

The argument was misleading, because it ignored the fact that the winners seldom, if ever, compensate the losers. But the potential winners spent enough money promoting the argument that it prevailed. It was a victory for believers in untrammeled free enterprise, or “market fundamentalists,” as I call them. Because financial capital is an indispensable ingredient of economic development, and few countries in the developing world could generate enough capital on their own, globalization spread like wildfire. Financial capital could move around freely and avoid taxation and regulation.

Globalization has had far-reaching economic and political consequences. It has brought about some economic convergence between poor and rich countries; but it increased inequality within both poor and rich countries. In the developed world, the benefits accrued mainly to large owners of financial capital, who constitute less than 1% of the population. The lack of redistributive policies is the main source of the dissatisfaction that democracy’s opponents have exploited. But there were other contributing factors as well, particularly in Europe.

I was an avid supporter of the European Union from its inception. I regarded it as the embodiment of the idea of an open society: an association of democratic states willing to sacrifice part of their sovereignty for the common good. It started out at as a bold experiment in what Popper called “piecemeal social engineering.” The leaders set an attainable objective and a fixed timeline and mobilized the political will needed to meet it, knowing full well that each step would necessitate a further step forward. That is how the European Coal and Steel Community developed into the EU.

But then something went woefully wrong. After the Crash of 2008, a voluntary association of equals was transformed into a relationship between creditors and debtors, where the debtors had difficulties in meeting their obligations and the creditors set the conditions the debtors had to obey. That relationship has been neither voluntary nor equal.

Germany emerged as the hegemonic power in Europe, but it failed to live up to the obligations that successful hegemons must fulfill, namely looking beyond their narrow self-interest to the interests of the people who depend on them. Compare the behavior of the US after WWII with Germany’s behavior after the Crash of 2008: the US launched the Marshall Plan, which led to the development of the EU; Germany imposed an austerity program that served its narrow self-interest.

Before its reunification, Germany was the main force driving European integration: it was always willing to contribute a little bit extra to accommodate those putting up resistance. Remember Germany’s contribution to meeting Margaret Thatcher’s demands regarding the EU budget?

But reuniting Germany on a 1:1 basis turned out to be very expensive. When Lehman Brothers collapsed, Germany did not feel rich enough to take on any additional obligations. When European finance ministers declared that no other systemically important financial institution would be allowed to fail, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, correctly reading the wishes of her electorate, declared that each member state should look after its own institutions. That was the start of a process of disintegration.

After the Crash of 2008, the EU and the eurozone became increasingly dysfunctional. Prevailing conditions became far removed from those prescribed by the Maastricht Treaty, but treaty change became progressively more difficult, and eventually impossible, because it couldn’t be ratified. The eurozone became the victim of antiquated laws; much-needed reforms could be enacted only by finding loopholes in them. That is how institutions became increasingly complicated, and electorates became alienated.

The rise of anti-EU movements further impeded the functioning of institutions. And these forces of disintegration received a powerful boost in 2016, first from Brexit, then from the election of Trump in the US, and on December 4 from Italian voters’ rejection, by a wide margin, of constitutional reforms.

Democracy is now in crisis. Even the US, the world’s leading democracy, elected a con artist and would-be dictator as its president. Although Trump has toned down his rhetoric since he was elected, he has changed neither his behavior nor his advisers. His cabinet comprises incompetent extremists and retired generals.

What lies ahead?

I am confident that democracy will prove resilient in the US. Its Constitution and institutions, including the fourth estate, are strong enough to resist the excesses of the executive branch, thus preventing a would-be dictator from becoming an actual one.

But the US will be preoccupied with internal struggles in the near future, and targeted minorities will suffer. The US will be unable to protect and promote democracy in the rest of the world. On the contrary, Trump will have greater affinity with dictators. That will allow some of them to reach an accommodation with the US, and others to carry on without interference. Trump will prefer making deals to defending principles. Unfortunately, that will be popular with his core constituency.

I am particularly worried about the fate of the EU, which is in danger of coming under the influence of Russian President Vladimir Putin, whose concept of government is irreconcilable with that of open society. Putin is not a passive beneficiary of recent developments; he worked hard to bring them about. He recognized his regime’s weakness: it can exploit natural resources but cannot generate economic growth. He felt threatened by “color revolutions” in Georgia, Ukraine, and elsewhere. At first, he tried to control social media. Then, in a brilliant move, he exploited social media companies’ business model to spread misinformation and fake news, disorienting electorates and destabilizing democracies. That is how he helped Trump get elected.

The same is likely to happen in the European election season in 2017 in the Netherlands, Germany, and Italy. In France, the two leading contenders are close to Putin and eager to appease him. If either wins, Putin’s dominance of Europe will become a fait accompli.

I hope that Europe’s leaders and citizens alike will realize that this endangers their way of life and the values on which the EU was founded. The trouble is that the method Putin has used to destabilize democracy cannot be used to restore respect for facts and a balanced view of reality.

With economic growth lagging and the refugee crisis out of control, the EU is on the verge of breakdown and is set to undergo an experience similar to that of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s. Those who believe that the EU needs to be saved in order to be reinvented must do whatever they can to bring about a better outcome.

Souroce (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-28/george-soros-conjures-hitler-attack-ascendant-populists-warns-democracy-now-crisis)

turiya

30th December 2016, 22:31

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Putin Stunner: "We Will Not Expel Anyone;
We Refuse To Sink To 'Kitchen' Diplomacy" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-30/putin-stunner-we-will-not-expel-anyone-we-refuse-sink-obamas-level)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Dec 30, 2016 7:40 AM
Vladimir the merciful?

Following this morning's reports (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-30/russia-retaliates-expel-35-us-diplomats-after-us-sanctions) that Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov would recommend to Russian President Vladimir Putin a retaliation in kind, and expel 35 American diplomats, saying that “we cannot leave such acts unanswered. Reciprocity is part of diplomatic law" with Putin spokesman Peskov adding that "there is no doubt that Russia's adequate and mirror response will make Washington officials feel very uncomfortable as well", it was ultimately up to Putin to decide how to respond to the US.

Which he did on Friday morning, when in a stunning reversal, the Russian leader took the high road, rejected the Lavrov proposal, and in a statement posted by the Kremlin said (http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/53678) that Russia won’t expel any Americans in retaliation to US moves, in a brutal demonstration of just how irrelevant Obama's 11th hour decision is for US-Russian relations.

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The reversal comes as Russian officials portrayed U.S. sanctions as a last act of a lame-duck president and suggested that Trump could reverse them when he takes over the White House in January.

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/TRUMP_TWEETS/RUSSIAN_EMBASSY_UK_29_DEC_2016.png (https://twitter.com/RussianEmbassy/status/814564127230271489)

Earlier Russian Prime Minster Dmitry Medvedev said the Obama administration was ending its term in "anti-Russia death throes."

"It is regrettable that the Obama administration, which started out by restoring our ties, is ending its term in an anti-Russia death throes. RIP," Medvedev, who served as president in 2009 when Obama tried to improve Russia-U.S. relations, wrote on his official Facebook page.

In the just released statement, Putin laughed off Obama's 11th hour temper tantrum, and said that Russia won’t cause problems to U.S. diplomats or deport anyone, adding that Russia has the right to respond in tit-for-tat manner, but it will not engage in irresponsible diplomacy.

The punchline, however, was saved for what may be Russia's final slam of the debacle that is Obama's administration saying that "It’s a pity that the current U.S. administration is finishing their work in such a manner" saying that Russia refuses "to sink to the level of this irresponsible "kitchen" diplomacy."

Putin ended the statement by congratulating U.S. President-elect Donald Trump, and the American people on the New Year and invited the hildren of US diplomats to a holiday celebration at the Kremlin.

From the full statement posted on the Kremlin website (http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/53678):

Although we have the right to retaliate, we will not resort to irresponsible ‘kitchen’ diplomacy but will plan our further steps to restore Russian-US relations based on the policies of the Trump Administration.

And with that one statement, Obama lost the diplomatic war with Russia.

In other news, the Kremlin said it will send a government plane to the US to evacuate the expelled diplomats and their family members. Earlier, there were reports that the diplomats were having problems buying tickets on such short notice, with airlines already booked by New Year’s travelers.

* * *

Full Putin statement below (http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/53678):

We regard the recent unfriendly steps taken by the outgoing US administration as provocative and aimed at further weakening the Russia-US relationship. This runs contrary to the fundamental interests of both the Russian and American people. Considering the global security responsibilities of Russia and the United States, this is also damaging to international relations as a whole.

As it proceeds from international practice, Russia has reasons to respond in kind. Although we have the right to retaliate, we will not resort to irresponsible ‘kitchen’ diplomacy but will plan our further steps to restore Russian-US relations based on the policies of the Trump Administration.

The diplomats who are returning to Russia will spend the New Year’s holidays with their families and friends. We will not create any problems for US diplomats. We will not expel anyone. We will not prevent their families and children from using their traditional leisure sites during the New Year’s holidays. Moreover, I invite all children of US diplomats accredited in Russia to the New Year and Christmas children’s parties in the Kremlin.

It is regrettable that the Obama Administration is ending its term in this manner. Nevertheless, I offer my New Year greetings to President Obama and his family.

My season’s greetings also to President-elect Donald Trump and the American people.

I wish all of you happiness and prosperity.

SOURCE (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-30/putin-stunner-we-will-not-expel-anyone-we-refuse-sink-obamas-level)

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Follow-up Trump Touché....

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Trump Mocks CNN, NBC;
Praises Putin: "Great Move On Delay -
I Always Knew He Was Very Smart" (http://www.zerohedge.com/node/583402)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Dec 30, 2016 5:44 PM
If there was any confusion how president-elect Donald Trump - who for the past few days has been urging Americans to "get on with our lives" beyond the topic of Russian sanctions - felt about Putin unexpectedly taking the "high road" and refusing to retaliate tit-for-tat to Obama's expulsion of Russian diplomats, he cleared it up moments ago when at 2:41pm he tweeted: "Great move on delay (by V. Putin) - I always knew he was very smart!"

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/TRUMP_TWEETS/TRUMP_TWITTER_ICON_4.png (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/814919370711461890)
Great move on delay (by V. Putin) - I always knew
he was very smart!

11:41 AM - 30 Dec 2016

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/814919370711461890)

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Or, said otherwise, "Obama is not very smart" something which the Russian embassy in the US found amusing enough to Retweet (in this particular case we are confident Retweeting does mean endorsing).

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2016/12/30/russia%20embassy%20rt.jpg

And then just to totally infuriate the media, Trump followed up his earlier praise of Putin by slamming CNN and NBC:

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/TRUMP_TWEETS/TRUMP_TWITTER_ICON_4.png (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/814958820980039681?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
Russians are playing @CNN and @NBCNews
for such fools - funny to watch, they don't have
a clue! @FoxNews totally gets it!

2:18 PM - 30 Dec 2016

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/814958820980039681?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

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While it remains unclear if Trump will eliminate the anti-Russia sanctions implemented by Obama as soon as he enters office in three weeks, we expect many more op-eds and articles lamenting the bromance between Trump and Putin by Jeff Bezos' blog and other "unfake" media.

Case in point, here is Hillary Clinton sycophant John Harwood, who mysteriously still has a job at CNBC following the reputation crushing Podesta email revelations, slamming Trump's tweet as

"breath-taking: one day after POTUS sanctions Russia for criminal interference in US election, President-elect praises Putin as "very smart" (https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/814921762140000256?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)"

Source (http://www.zerohedge.com/node/583402)

turiya

31st December 2016, 02:26

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What Is The Obama Regime Up To? (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/12/30/what-is-the-obama-regime-up-to-paul-craig-roberts/)
— Paul Craig Roberts

December 30, 2016
Obama has announced new sanctions on Russia based on unsubstantiated charges by the CIA that the Russian government influenced the outcome of the US presidential election with “malicious cyber-enabled activities.”

The US Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has issued a report (https://diplopundit.net/2016/12/29/dhsfbi-issues-joint-analysis-report-grizzly-steppe-russian-malicious-cyber-activity-read-report/) “related to the declaration of 35 Russian officials persona non grata for malicious cyber activity and harassment.”

The report is a description of “tools and infrastructure used by Russian intelligence services to compromise and exploit networks and infrastructure associated with the recent U.S. election, as well as a range of U.S. government, political and private sector entities.”

The report does not provide any evidence that the tools and infrastructure were used to influence the outcome of the US presidential election. The report is simply a description of what is said to be Russian capabilities.

Moreover, the report begins with this disclaimer: “DISCLAIMER: This report is provided ‘as is’ for informational purposes only. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) does not provide any warranties of any kind regarding any information contained within.”

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/disclaimer.jpg
DISCLAIMER (https://diplopundit.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/jar_16-20296.pdf)

In other words, the report not only provides no evidence of the use of the Russian tools and infrastructure in order to influence the US presidential election, the report will not even warrant the correctness of its description of Russian capabilities.

Thus the DHS report makes it completely clear that the Obama regime has no evidential basis for its allegations on the basis of which it has imposed more sanctions on Russia.

What is going on here?

First there is the question of the legality of the sanctions even if there were evidence. I am not certain, but I think that sanctions require the action of a body, such as the UN Security Council, and cannot legally be imposed unilaterally by one country. Additionally, it is unclear why Obama is calling the expulsion of Russian diplomats “sanctions.” No other country has to do likewise. During the Cold War when diplomats were expelled for spying, it was not called “sanctions.” Sanctions imply more than unilateral or bilateral expulsions of diplomats.

Second, it is clear that Obama, the CIA, and the New York Times are fully aware that the allegation is false. It is also clear that if the CIA actually believes the allegation, the intelligence agency is totally incompetent and cannot be believed on any subject.

Third, President Trump can rescind the sanctions in 21 days, a third reason that the sanctions are ridiculous.

So why are President Obama, the CIA, and the New York Times making charges (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/29/opinion/president-obama-punishes-russia-at-last.html?_r=2&mtrref=www.paulcraigroberts.org&gwh=97A5B4803EC7DF8A961F1B536AEEBCE6&gwt=pay&assetType=opinion) that they know are false and for which they have not produced a shred of evidence?

One obvious answer is that the neoconized Obama regime is desperate to ruin US-Russian relations past the point that Trump can repair them. As the New York Times puts it, “Mr. Obama’s actions clearly create a problem for Mr. Trump.” The question the New York Times says, is whether Trump “stands with his democratic allies on Capitol Hill or his authoritarian friend in the Kremlin.”

Can Trump’s foreign policy be controlled by false allegations? According to the New York Times, Trump has relented and agreed to being briefed by the CIA about the Russian hacking now that Republicans such as Paul Ryan, John McCain, and Lindsey Graham have lined up with Obama and the CIA in accepting charges for which no evidence has been presented. However, a briefing without evidence would seem simply to further discredit the CIA in Trump’s eyes.

As I have emphasized in my columns, facts no longer have a role in the United States and its empire. Allegations alone suffice, whether in court cases, interrogation centers, foreign and domestic policies, or classrooms. The US even bases its military invasions on false allegations—“weapons of mass destruction.” Indeed, the entirely of US foreign policy since the Clinton regime has been based on nothing but false allegations.

The Russian government should have learned by now, but perhaps Moscow still thinks that facts matter in Washington’s decisions.

Possibly we should consider that more is going on than meets the eye. Perhaps the propaganda about the Russian cyber threat to democracy is being used to prepare American and/or European populations for an incident. The CIA has morphed into a “deep state” that uses disinformation and propaganda to align decisions of Congress, the executive branch, and foreign governments with secret behind-the-scenes agendas. Many books, such as Stephen Kinzer’s The Brothers (https://www.amazon.com/Brothers-Foster-Dulles-Allen-Secret/dp/0805094970#reader_0805094970) and Douglas Valentine’s CIA As Organized Crime (http://www.claritypress.com/Valentine.html) have described some of these secret agendas.

In order to deter Trump from restoring normal relations with Russia, an incident would have to be severe and irreversible. Rather than accept defeat for their agenda of US world hegemony, the neoconservatives are prepared to take high risks. The willingness to take risks is demonstrated by the public effort of the CIA Director to discredit the president-elect.

As expected, Putin’s response (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/12/30/stephen-lendman-reports-president-putins-response-to-obamas-new-sanctions/) to the latest provocation is low key as the “sanctions” appear to be meaningless on the surface. However, in the event that something dangerous is below the surface, the Russian government might want to consider putting its military forces on alert.

Paul Craig Roberts (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/12/30/what-is-the-obama-regime-up-to-paul-craig-roberts/)

Chester

31st December 2016, 03:20

onawah

31st December 2016, 03:38

From Simon Parkes' website today:
Potential Loss Of Life Event Tomorrow
Friday 30th December 2016
Information given to me from remote viewers - potential loss of life event tomorrow - I normally only post when info verified by two independent sources - I don't have time as the activity period is too short - and it would be irresponsible of me not to post this alert.

However, in the event that something dangerous is below the surface, the Russian government might want to consider putting its military forces on alert.

Paul Craig Roberts (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/12/30/what-is-the-obama-regime-up-to-paul-craig-roberts/)
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onawah

31st December 2016, 05:46

In The Trump Card:
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Prof. Walter Veith explains very well how the Hegelian Dialectic works and has been used in the two party systems, keeping control always in the controller's hands, and how this is even explained in the prophecies in the Book of Revelations and Book of Daniel.
(You don't have to be a believer in the Bible to see how this might be so, given what we've heard from whistleblowers about the Annunaki and how they may have used time travel to plan and manipulate our history over the centuries.)
How the controlling Jesuits and the Vatican have been working behind the scenes skillfully during the US 2016 election, though Trump and HRC were somewhat interchangeable candidates in their eyes.
How both candidates Trump and HRC are of the desirable bloodlines, both descendants of Charlmange, and how Obama's bloodline was acceptable as well.
How Trump's running mate Mike Pence describes himself as a thoroughly Catholic born-again Evangelical Catholic Christian Conservative, a Catholic Youth Minister who wanted to be a priest.
How Trump was influenced and shaped by his Jesuit schooling/training, having attended the Jesuit Fordham University for 2 years.
(Pence's rival for the Vice Presidency, Tim Kain, a Harvard Divinity School graduate who attended a Jesuit high school, is known as a " Pope Francis Catholic". )
How Trump has been described as a 'born again Christian", a Presbyterian Protestant and a Sunday church goer.
How Pope Francis has been calling for the union of Evangelicals, Catholics, Protestants (and indeed, all religions, including Islam) under the Church.
Not to mention a union of Church and State.
He takes a look at the long list of Trump's Evangelical Advisory Board including the likes of Michelle Bachman, Pentecostals Kenneth and Gloria Copeland, "megachurch pastor"Jack Graham, Jerry Fallwell Jr. and many others, many of whom have been negotiating with the papacy for reunion of all Christians, and the Church and State.
And there was, of course, heavy influencing from these people among their parishioners to vote for Trump.
It seems likely the Vatican's influence in this election has been misunderstood and underestimated.

turiya

31st December 2016, 05:52

Experts Destroy White House ‘Proof’ of Russian Hacking

Two expert analyses from the intelligence community are destroying the Obama administration's “proof” of Russian hacking.

On Thursday, as part of the White House response to alleged Russian hacking, the FBI and DHS released a Joint Analysis Report (JAR) called “Grizzly Steppe.” While this report was meant to prove, or at least provide evidence, that the Russian government was involved in hacks of the Democratic Party, experts have stated that it “adds nothing.”

read the rest here -

https://sputniknews.com/us/201612301049153528-experts-destroy-white-house-hacking-jar/

Yo, thanks Sam. I am learning that the Sputnik news site is a pretty good source.
I had the Joint Analysis Report PDF file linked to the DISCLAIMER image... just needed to click on the image to bring it up.

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DISCLAIMER (https://diplopundit.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/jar_16-20296.pdf)

As far as Simon Parkes' remote viewers' info, I'm not getting that this is Russia related. CIA related - yes. CIA is up to their eyeballs connected with Radical Islam. So, it appears that this is, but yet, another Radical Islamic event... I could be wrong, but perhaps in Italy. So, grab a bag of popcorn on your way to your seat... before the show begins.

In the meantime here's the related Infowars interview w/ Paul Craig Roberts...

Paul Craig Roberts:
What is the Obama Regime Up To?
(Published on December 31, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94ILojuQAvs

ThePythonicCow

31st December 2016, 09:24

Brandon Smith, of Alt-Market.com, nails it again. Here's some snippets from his latest piece (http://www.alt-market.com/articles/3095-trump-is-exactly-where-the-elites-want-him), explaining that Donald Trump is not the "great hope" for cleaning up the swamp in Washington. The US Presidential election was a well scripted play, with a hero, Trump, and a villain, Hillary Clinton. Trump won because the elite wanted him to win.

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Trump Is Exactly Where The Elites Want Him (http://www.alt-market.com/articles/3095-trump-is-exactly-where-the-elites-want-him)

Friday, 30 December 2016; Brandon Smith

Trump won the election because he serves the interests of the establishment. Trump won because he is a fake.

The first and worst sign that Trump is not anywhere near “anti-establishment” has been his complete reversal of his original “drain the swamp” rhetoric. Trump is not only NOT draining the swamp that is the Washington D.C. and corporate elitist revolving door, he is adding even more creatures of varying ghoulishness.

Trump first placed former Goldman Sachs partner Steven Mnuchin as Treasury Secretary.

Trump added Gary Cohn, president of Goldman Sachs, as the director of the National Economic Council.

Trump’s chief strategist and Breitbart executive Steve Bannon is also a former Goldman Sachs investment banker.

If that is not enough, then how about the fact that Trump is being closely advised by long time globalist Henry Kissinger (just as Vladimir Putin is advised by Kissinger)?

It seems to me that there are some activists that just can’t let go of the notion that Trump was the candidate the elites wanted all along. After all, didn’t the powers-that-be do everything in their power to try and stop him from winning the election?

Well, not really. The media firestorm surrounding Trump, though highly negative in tone, only boosted Trump’s exposure throughout the election. In fact, Trump received more coverage from outlets like CNN than all the other candidates combined.

The election itself was riddled with email leaks and data dumps showcasing the corruption of the Clinton campaign, and yes, this did help to ensure a Trump win. The accusations of “Russian hacking” is clearly a sideshow, but the question remains, who did feed that information to Wikileaks? Some theorize that “disgruntled employees” within the U.S. intelligence apparatus may have leaked the data. I think they were not disgruntled. I think that most of the leaks were part of the election theater from the very beginning. In light of Trump’s clear goal to entrench banking vampires within his administration, I think that the elites always intended for him to “win” the election.

The great danger is that the liberty movement, the best last chance for saving this nation, will sit on its collective hands idle, centralizing all their hopes and eggs into the Trump basket, waiting for him to gallop in on his white horse and save us all from oblivion. And when that time comes, I suspect that he will do nothing, and the movement will be neutralized by its own desperate desire for a hero and an idol.

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If you enjoy reading Brandon, follow the above link for the full article.

Cidersomerset

31st December 2016, 10:09

Brandon Smith, of Alt-Market.com, nails it again. Here's some snippets from his latest piece,
explaining that Donald Trump is not the "great hope" for cleaning up the swamp in Washington. The
US Presidential election was a well scripted play, with a hero, Trump, and a villain, Hillary Clinton.
Trump won because the elite wanted him to win.

David Icke and others have been raising these concerns for months and
there are signs from his picks that things can go wrong. Everyone it seems
would rather Trump than Clinton , which is where I and many others are
coming from. Now whether he will be able to deliver the slow down of
'globalisation' is another . We know TPTB and their 'bankster ' puppets
always back both sides and many a dictator or Royal family , if they have
the power and resources that suit their control meme's.

Trump does have qualities that may protect against them , but he is open
to black mail , threats to his family and ultimately assassination if he does
cut the head from the tail of these power full blood line families and their
minions.

We certainly are living in interesting times and as David Icke said back
in 2009/10 when all the focus was on 2012 , is that he did not see that
date particularly significant, but the period of 2016/17/18 as pivotal
years and is why he started his on going world wide tour earlier this
year and will continue during this period. There is no doubt 2016 has
been dramatic and shows no sign of ending yet . If Clinton had got
in WW111 would probably being set in motion now with more help for
the rebels and ISIS in Syria and Iraq and possible more intrigue in the
Ukraine. At least Trump will hopefully slow this down and depending
which 'power group' behind the scenes ends up backing him , will
see how far they will let him go. I certainly wish him good luck.

I have put some good vids among the 'political/media chatter on Pauls
thread as the death throws of the Obama regime kick in....

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95187-Obama-orders-Russia-expulsions-sanctions-for-interference-in-2016-election&p=1123720&viewfull=1#post1123720

Meanwhile two of Trumps ardent critics Tweedle Dee and Tweedle dum are
getting award for something or other ?

Ukraine: Poroshenko awards Orders of Ukraine to US Senators McCain and Graham

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30 December 2016

President Petro Poroshenko presented US Senators John McCain and Lindsey
Graham with the Order of Freedom and the Order of Prince Yaroslav the Wise
respectively, ahead of a US delegation meeting in Kiev on Friday.

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You may or may not like or agree with David but he is a very hard working
researcher connecting dots in many areas and geo political views are
gained from a life time observation in and out of the mainstream....

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69621-Ukraine-Crimea-Syria-Israel-Iran-Putin-and-World-War-III&p=1123453&viewfull=1#post1123453

David is one of the best geo political analysts and he gives his views on 2016 into 2017.....

2016 - 'It is, perhaps, the end of the beginning' - The David Icke Videocast/Podcast Trailer

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Published on 29 Dec 2016

Cidersomerset

31st December 2016, 10:21

Another worry and a old intel control meme raising its head as the mainstream
media and alphabet agencies fight back....This can be posted on many threads...

Is the CIA weaponizing the concepts ‘conspiracy theory’ and ‘fake news?’

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Published on 30 Dec 2016

The term ‘conspiracy theory’ found a replacement in 2016 with the concept of fake news.
But both have been weaponized to distort the views of alternative platforms and foreign
media, according to legal and media analyst Lionel, of LionelMedia, who joins us to talk
about the history and social role of these terms.

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====================================================

On the same lines..........

Exit here 2016: Jesse Ventura and Manila Chan wrap up the year

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Published on 29 Dec 2016

RT's year-end special takes a look at the results of 2016, which also happens to be
the end of Obama's presidency. Famed Navy SEAL, wrestler, actor and governor of
Minnesota Jesse Ventura joins RT's Manila Chan to discuss the highlights and
troubling moments of 2016, including the presidential race, Russian hacking,
whistleblowers, media trustworthiness, celebrity deaths and many other topics

Eram

31st December 2016, 10:54

Brandon Smith, of Alt-Market.com, nails it again. Here's some snippets from his latest piece (http://www.alt-market.com/articles/3095-trump-is-exactly-where-the-elites-want-him), explaining that Donald Trump is not the "great hope" for cleaning up the swamp in Washington. The US Presidential election was a well scripted play, with a hero, Trump, and a villain, Hillary Clinton. Trump won because the elite wanted him to win.

I cannot agree with the conclusions that the writer draws Paul, since he cherry picks his facts and blows facts out of proportion in order to create an unrealistic context.

Yes, Trump has selected some people who have been part of the system for long, but he never said that he wouldn't.

He said he wants to drain the Swamp and already has made a proposal package of reforms (https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/trump-pledges-to-drain-the-swamp) that he wants to implement when in office.

First: I am going to institute a 5-year ban on all executive branch officials lobbying the government after they leave government service.

Second: I am going to ask Congress to institute its own 5-year ban on lobbying by former members of Congress and their staffs.

Third: I am going to expand the definition of lobbyist so we close all the loopholes that former government officials use by labeling themselves consultants and advisors when we all know they are lobbyists.

Fourth: I am going to issue a lifetime ban against senior executive branch officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government.

Fifth: I am going to ask Congress to pass a campaign finance reform that prevents registered foreign lobbyists from raising money in American elections.

If Trump really pulls that one off, the effects will be monumental and will probably result in some sort of restoration of how democracy was meant to work in the US.
Why does the writer of that article leaves this out if his summary?
If we're going to start like that, we can draw any picture that we like can't we?

The writer further labels Kissinger as an adviser to Trump.
Really?
As far as I know, they met only once after Trump won the election and from Kissinger's own words about that meeting, they did not especially agree on their visions about how to conduct foreign policy. It felt more like Kissinger went into that meeting to try and bend Trump toward the will of the plan for a global society for which Kissinger has worked so hard all these decades.
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If such a meeting makes Kissinger his advisor.... for the moment, I would say:... not really.

So, if all the facts are taken into consideration, I remain hopeful that Trump will make a real effort to do something about the crippled and corrupt democracy in the US.
All the signs that he will have a go at it are there.

I'm not holding my breath that he will succeed though, but that's another story.

Chester

31st December 2016, 14:21

Looks like a semi-"mainstream" media outlet (which years ago had built its reputation for journalistic bravery with accuracy by telling the truth when that truth embarrassed the establishment) and that for a long time now had appeared compromised (example: its access to Obama and the "fake campus rape / fake news piece) is starting to see that survival trumps "establishment agenda pushing" -

Something About This Russia Story Stinks

Nearly a decade and a half after the Iraq-WMD faceplant, the American press is again asked to co-sign a dubious intelligence assessment.

read the story here:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/something-about-this-russia-story-stinks-w458439

Chester

31st December 2016, 14:49

Three simple words...

"Jobs, Jobs, Jobs"

and for the concerned who posted a few posts above here's two simple (well practiced) words Trump will use if any of his appointees fail to push the fulfillment of Trump's promises -

"You're fired"

This is what folks don't get (or don't want to get) but may end up experiencing despite their desires to see him fail.

onawah

31st December 2016, 18:44

ThePythonicCow

31st December 2016, 19:06

I cannot agree with the conclusions that the writer draws Paul, since he cherry picks his facts and blows facts out of proportion in order to create an unrealistic context.

Yes, Trump has selected some people who have been part of the system for long, but he never said that he wouldn't.

He said he wants to drain the Swamp and already has made a proposal package of reforms (https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/trump-pledges-to-drain-the-swamp) that he wants to implement when in office.

First: I am going to institute a 5-year ban on all executive branch officials lobbying the government after they leave government service.

Second: I am going to ask Congress to institute its own 5-year ban on lobbying by former members of Congress and their staffs.

Third: I am going to expand the definition of lobbyist so we close all the loopholes that former government officials use by labeling themselves consultants and advisors when we all know they are lobbyists.

Fourth: I am going to issue a lifetime ban against senior executive branch officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government.

Fifth: I am going to ask Congress to pass a campaign finance reform that prevents registered foreign lobbyists from raising money in American elections.

If Trump really pulls that one off, the effects will be monumental and will probably result in some sort of restoration of how democracy was meant to work in the US.
Why does the writer of that article leaves this out if his summary?
If we're going to start like that, we can draw any picture that we like can't we?
Yes, Brandon Smith is cherry picking his facts, and casting those facts in a light best suited to make his point.

Yes, Trump will be doing some swamp draining, or at least he sure seems intent on doing so.

But ask for whom the Trump toils (a butchered John Donne and later Earnest Hemingway line (http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/for-whom-the-bell-tolls.html), sorry).

In the US, the Bush/Clinton crime syndicate is being thrown under the bus, the main stream US media is being discredited, and the US Dollar is destined to lose its World Reserve Currency status, becoming just another national currency.
In Europe, the dictators by another name in Brussels and the EuroDollar are being thrown under the bus, destined for a substantial restructuring.
In Israel (see for example the recent UN Security Council resolution condemning Israelie settlements, and US Sec of State Kerry's follow up speech in John Kerry...traitor -- Post #25 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95168-John-Kerry...traitor&p=1123820&viewfull=1#post1123820)), Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the Israeli settlement policy are being thrown under the bus.
I would not be surprised to see (perhaps it's already happening and I just haven't noticed) the Japanese government become less subservient to their World War II conquerors and still masters, the US.
The Roman Catholic church has been undergoing major stresses over the last few decades, as documented in this Youtube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztisTKy2KTE).
Islam is being deeply tarred with the scourage of Terrorism, and Trump and Putin will unite in doing some serious swamp draining there.
India's Prime Minister Modi is being setup to fail, such as with his botched currency reform (http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21711040-narendra-modi-needs-take-measures-mitigate-damage-his-rupee-reform-has-done-indias).
Russia perhaps "led the way" in this round of global restructuring, with the "fall of Communism" in 1989 and related events.

Some big alligators are going to be seriously harmed in the making of this epic drama.

But ... what portions of the swamp are not being drained? Who has the contract to pave over and rebuild these swamp lands?

The next new global order is forming, using the current so called "globalists" as the arch-enemy. You can know the real globalists, or at least the dynamic they are playing, by what they label their enemies. This is a classical manipulation of humanity.

My take is that Brandon Smith is seeing one aspect of this, as projected onto the US, where he focuses his attention. Trump, in the US, and Putin, in Russia, have the "good cop" hero role in this drama. I don't think Brandon is seeing that part of this, from that wider perspective. Brandon seems more focused on the trials and tribulations that Trump will endure, and taking those to be "blaming and discrediting the conservative freedom movement" for which Brandon stands. I don't agree with at least that conclusion of Brandon either ... at least that (blaming the US freedom movement) is not the dominant motive here.

We are destined to be a world of nations, united by and essentially under the control of international financial, monetary, political, military and economic organizations, which in turn are controlled by the hidden hands of an elite.

Just as ordinary people root for "their" school or city or national sports team, where the teams or the sport they compete in is owned and controlled by the hidden hands of powerful elite, similarly we will root for our nation, in the world's community of nations. But international competition will be governed by the hidden hand of elites, so that the dreadful genocides, financial fraud, ecological holocaust, monetary and economic collapse, and destruction of cultures and people cannot and will not be allowed to happen again.

===

A great expansion of the power of the US Federal government over the states followed its civil war in the 1860's, during which war US President Lincoln said:

"Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. "

-- Abraham Lincoln.

===

We are now witnessing the birth of a great expansion of the power of global governance over the nations and peoples of the world:

"Now we are engaged in epic global conflicts, testing whether this civilization, or any civilization so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure."

-- Paul Jackson.

DNA

31st December 2016, 19:11

Actually, there was nothing in the message from Parkes remote viewer sources that had to do specifically with Russia or the CIA or any particular group; it was pretty generic. What I thought of when I read it was another false flag event, but they are happening on such a regular basis, predicting them is almost like shooting fish in a barrel.
Here's the message again:

Potential Loss Of Life Event Tomorrow
Friday 30th December 2016
Information given to me from remote viewers - potential loss of life event tomorrow - I normally only post when info verified by two independent sources - I don't have time as the activity period is too short - and it would be irresponsible of me not to post this alert.

As far as Simon Parkes' remote viewers' info, I'm not getting that this is Russia related. CIA related - yes. CIA is up to their eyeballs connected with Radical Islam. So, it appears that this is, but yet, another Radical Islamic event... I could be wrong, but perhaps in Italy. So, grab a bag of popcorn on your way to your seat... before the show begins.

I'm a fan of your insights Natalie, but,,,
You ever have someone on your team you were wondering if you would be better off without?
This is how I feel when I see Simon Parks posts on this thread.
I count his contributions as less than those of a dung beetle.
Anything coming from Parks needs to be vetted x10.
Which makes those contributions less than welcome.

I certainly do not care about Simon Parks, and every word uttered from his mouth is like a turd that stinks up the proximity.
Just saying.

turiya

31st December 2016, 19:26

Actually, there was nothing in the message from Parkes remote viewer sources that had to do specifically with Russia or the CIA or any particular group; it was pretty generic. What I thought of when I read it was another false flag event, but they are happening on such a regular basis, predicting them is almost like shooting fish in a barrel.
Here's the message again:

Potential Loss Of Life Event Tomorrow
Friday 30th December 2016
Information given to me from remote viewers - potential loss of life event tomorrow - I normally only post when info verified by two independent sources - I don't have time as the activity period is too short - and it would be irresponsible of me not to post this alert.

As far as Simon Parkes' remote viewers' info, I'm not getting that this is Russia related. CIA related - yes. CIA is up to their eyeballs connected with Radical Islam. So, it appears that this is, but yet, another Radical Islamic event... I could be wrong, but perhaps in Italy. So, grab a bag of popcorn on your way to your seat... before the show begins.

There's ongoing potential loss of life that is going on at anytime all across this planet...

Your response was to my posting of a Paul Craig Roberts article that pertains to Russia and a possible event that he has referred to... That post pertains to what he said about a possible event involving Russia...

If what Parkes had to say was pretty generic, then it makes no sense in bringing it & referencing it with your reply... focus...
Best regards...

onawah

31st December 2016, 19:28

I understand, and you are certainly entitled to your opinion, DNA.
I try not to throw the baby out with the bathwater with all whistleblowers, as there is usually some truth to be sorted out from the garbage that is worth the search.
And in the process, it's possible to learn a thing or two from the untruths as well.
Apparently Kerry Cassidy agrees, as she has announced a new upcoming interview with Parkes, and I certainly value Kerry's take on these matters.
The challenge is to develop enough discernment to make the sorting worthwhile, and that's not necessarily going to appeal to everyone.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Yes, agreed. There was no direct correlation.

Actually, there was nothing in the message from Parkes remote viewer sources that had to do specifically with Russia or the CIA or any particular group; it was pretty generic. What I thought of when I read it was another false flag event, but they are happening on such a regular basis, predicting them is almost like shooting fish in a barrel.
Here's the message again:

Potential Loss Of Life Event Tomorrow
Friday 30th December 2016
Information given to me from remote viewers - potential loss of life event tomorrow - I normally only post when info verified by two independent sources - I don't have time as the activity period is too short - and it would be irresponsible of me not to post this alert.

As far as Simon Parkes' remote viewers' info, I'm not getting that this is Russia related. CIA related - yes. CIA is up to their eyeballs connected with Radical Islam. So, it appears that this is, but yet, another Radical Islamic event... I could be wrong, but perhaps in Italy. So, grab a bag of popcorn on your way to your seat... before the show begins.

There's ongoing potential loss of life that is going on all across the planet...

Your response was to my posting of a Paul Craig Roberts article that pertains to Russia and a possible event that he has referred to... That post pertains to what he said about a possible event involving Russia...

If what he had to say was pretty generic, then it makes no sense in reference with your reply.

Best regards...

turiya

31st December 2016, 19:32

Greg covers much of what went on this week...

Greg Hunter-Weekly News Wrap-Up
12.30.16

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aiz2M8uOVxs

onawah

31st December 2016, 19:33

ThePythonicCow

31st December 2016, 19:38

I don't see how you've arrived at that conclusion, Paul.
Global chaos and misery seem to have always been the choice of the elites (and their masters) for the rest of us, so why would that change now?
Would you please explain? Thanks.

But international competition will be governed by the hidden hand of elites, so that the dreadful genocides, financial fraud, ecological holocaust, monetary and economic collapse, and destruction of cultures and people cannot and will not be allowed to happen again.

Ah - I am not saying that the elite will end those and other evils.

I am saying that the elite will condemn some of those evils, and throw under the bus some of the perpetrators of some of those evils. The elite will do this to build popular support, or at least mass acceptance, for the next round of changes, that increase the scope of the elite's global control over humanity.

I should have put the phrase "so that the dreadful genocides, financial fraud, ecological holocaust, monetary and economic collapse, and destruction of cultures and people cannot and will not be allowed to happen again" in quotes or something -- that will be the stated motive of the elite, not their real, hidden motive.

onawah

31st December 2016, 19:41

Got it. Thanks Paul.

AutumnW

31st December 2016, 20:29

Trump appears to be Israel's best friend. He is defending their illegal occupation of Palestinian territory. Weird. How is that a popular move? How does this calm the shi*storm, commonly referred to as the Middle East? I like his Russian/Syria stance, but his pro-Israel stance is going back in time, not forward.

ThePythonicCow

31st December 2016, 22:06

onawah

31st December 2016, 22:19

This helped connect some of those dots for me:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90590-Transition-into-Trump&p=1123782&viewfull=1#post1123782
Or was that irony?

Trump appears to be Israel's best friend. He is defending their illegal occupation of Palestinian territory. Weird.
Yes - weird. Unusual for me, I've yet to invent a decent theory as to why this is :).

East Sun

31st December 2016, 23:22

I hear ya, Paul.............i dont get it yet, but i will;;;;;;maybe too late,,,as usual..............

AutumnW

1st January 2017, 00:48

Trump appears to be Israel's best friend. He is defending their illegal occupation of Palestinian territory. Weird.
Yes - weird. Unusual for me, I've yet to invent a decent theory as to why this is :).

Hi Paul,

I have to stretch to come up with a theory as well. I start with asking what does Russia have in common with Israel. All I can come up with is the Russian mafia. Jewish inmates in the Gulag were allowed to immigrate to the U.S. and Israel. Obviously some were not Jewish and claimed to be to get out of the country and jail.

I read a few articles over 20 years ago about the problem. One day the subject became verboten. Media wise, you could here a pin drop. Now, here is the thing...many of them were involved in various oil schemes-- maybe trading paper barrels, who knows...can't remember. They were very slick conmen.

The one thing that really sticks out in my mind, like crazy, is how some of them were the best mathematical minds in Russia. Now take that forward a little and it makes sense that they would be heavily involved in computer programming etc..

I think it is possible there is a tie in here. They would control by blackmail--stuff they got through hacking into people's emails.

Do I think Putin is involved? Maybe. But you have to figure, the U.S bigwigs want answers from the CIA and Obama about how they 'know' Russia hacked the election, or swayed it. Is Obama going to give them the evidence, which might contain a file of very damaging pics of himself.

But as with 911, so many people were focussed on the twin towers, they weren't looking at what just didn't fit. Building 7. I feel that trump's fealty towards Israel is the building 7 of events, post election.

What doesn't fit...at all...you have Russia, Israel, organized crime, brilliant mathematicians, conmen and curiously, there is oil in this story, too.

This is all major conjecture. I have no clue, but it is a story worth pursuing.

norman

1st January 2017, 01:08

A point worth considering is that Soros fired a shot across the Rothschild bow a couple of years ago.

Stuff like that makes allies in the strangest ways. Putin takes his orders from the old Russian royalty, who are ultimately allies with the descended Prussians. That includes the Roths and the Sax Gotha bunch ( and Assange, in my opinion ).

That's yer 2016 Presidential election mystery solved.

Israel should really be thought of as a north east European state, not a middle eastern state.

onawah

1st January 2017, 02:09

Really, has no one else even considered that the VATICAN might have something to do with it?
I refer you again here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90590-Transition-into-Trump&p=1123782&viewfull=1#post1123782

turiya

1st January 2017, 04:55

Sheikh Imran Hosein ABOUT
Donald Trump elected US president
(Published on Nov 18, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KeC790Rkas________________________________________

BREAKINGISRAELNEWS

Is Trump the Prophesied Leader
Who Will Unite Christians
Against Radical Islam? (https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/78667/trump-prophesied-leader-will-unite-christians-radical-islam/#191KCJUuoUKDmFpX.97)
By Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz
November 16, 2016 , 12:30 pm

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Donald Trump may be the leader prophesied by Jewish literature to gather Christians against the sons of Ishmael in the times before Messiah, suggested a prominent rabbi recently. He noted that other aspects of the same prophecy regarding the Arab world have already been fulfilled.

“The Malbim wrote that before the coming of the Messiah, the world will separate into two groups: the Bnei Yishmael (https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/75220/israel-accommodate-thousands-arabs-holiday-abrahams-sacrifice-ishmael/#L8yoMRsl62EiujAD.97) (Muslims), and the Bnei Edom (https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/75220/israel-accommodate-thousands-arabs-holiday-abrahams-sacrifice-ishmael/#L8yoMRsl62EiujAD.97) (Christians),” Rabbi Zamir Cohen, a noted scholar and the head of the Beitar Illit Yeshiva, said in a lecture (http://cdn.gostreaming.tv/8/0/1/8_1bc0d8ef65082cf/8018_4185f17fb24e3fa.mp4) earlier in the week.

“According to the prophecy, the Bnei Yishmael will join together, and the Christians will remain calm, even apathetic, despite the obvious threat.”

Rabbi Cohen was referring to Rabbi Meir Leibush ben Yehiel Michel Wisser, better known as the Malbim (https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/65272/obamas-hatred-for-israel-part-of-gog-and-magog-prophecy-jewish-world/#jwR5QPt7RI1XkuJA.97), a renowned 19th-century Bible commentator. His prophecy’s description of an apathetic Western world facing a monstrous threat from Muslims dovetails closely with modern events. In recent years, radical Islam has been permitted to flourish in the Middle East and is now spreading throughout the world.

http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Rav-Zamir-Cohen-300x150.jpg

“The prophecy goes on to say that there will come a leader who will gather together the Christians and say, ‘Enough! We are sick of Islam!’,” the rabbi said. “This is unprecedented, something we have yet to see in the world, a leader who stands up and says that he has had enough of the trespasses of Islam, and that we are not afraid, and it is time to punish the Muslims for what they are doing.

“It is impossible to say that Trump is the leader the prophecies spoke about,” warned Rabbi Cohen, “But by his style of speech, that he doesn’t really care what he says or how people will react, it may be that he is.”

He pointed to Proverbs as a clue to whether or not the “unprecedented development” is good for Israel.

The king’s heart is in the hand of Hashem as the watercourses: He turneth it whithersoever He will. Proverbs 21:1

This verse makes clear that the actions of leaders are guided by God alone, Rabbi Cohen explained.

“Trump had free choice until he was elected. Now [that he is a leader] he no longer has free choice, especially in regards to governing the nation, or how to relate to Israel,” said Rabbi Cohen. “All of the promises Trump made until now, I believe that he really meant them. But whether or not he will actually do it is not in his power.

“As the leader of America, what he decides in the end is in God’s hands, and that is decided according to our actions,” declared Rabbi Cohen, quoting a verse from Psalms.

Ascribe ye strength unto God; His majesty is over Yisrael, and His strength is in the skies. Psalms 68:35

Rabbi Cohen described how, at the same time, events in the Muslim and Arab world are also conforming to the Malbim’s prophecy.

“Today, we see that the world of Islam is turning more and more extremist,” he said. “They are returning the days of Mohammed, chopping off heads, things which look insane. It is unbelievable that we should return to these things in our generation. They established a state that aspires to conquer the entire Muslim world, called the Islamic State.

“But God, in his mercy, has made it so they are fighting among themselves for now. This is a clear realization of the prophecy in Isaiah,” asserted Rabbi Cohen.

And I will spur Mitzrayim (https://theisraelbible.com/glossary/mitzrayim/) against Mitzrayim (https://theisraelbible.com/glossary/mitzrayim/); and they shall fight every one against his brother, and everyone against his neighbour; city against city, and kingdom against kingdom. Isaiah 19:2

The conditions the rabbi described are indeed unfolding before our eyes. Despite some horrifying attacks against the West, the fiercest efforts by Islamic extremists are restricted to inter-Islamic conflicts. Islamic terror in Europe and America pales in comparison to the more than 300,000 Syrians killed in that country’s civil war. Today, in a bitter, ongoing battle, Iraqi forces are struggling to take back Mosul from the Islamic State.

Rabbi Yosef Berger (https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/78333/hidden-election-day-message-american-jews-move-israel-now/), the rabbi of King David’s Tomb on Mount Zion Jerusalem, told Breaking Israel News that illogical political (https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/78288/trump-upset-victory-divinely-sent-begin-messianic-process-rabbis/#QHsHJEQTWB0YJRuI.97) developments are necessary components of the Messiah.

“When political developments reflect what is written in the Torah, that is a clear indication that we are nearing geulah (redemption),” noted Rabbi Berger. “These developments simply do not follow logic. The Arabs say they want to destroy Israel, but what they are actually doing is harming each other.

“It is because God is taking over, directing events.”

Rabbi Cohen concluded his lecture with a word of advice on how one can impact the course of events and even influence the decisions of kings.

“God directs the actions of the leaders according to our actions. If we do mitzvoth (commandments) and conform to God’s will, he will direct the leaders to act in our best interests.”

SOURCE (https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/78667/trump-prophesied-leader-will-unite-christians-radical-islam/#191KCJUuoUKDmFpX.97)

AutumnW

1st January 2017, 05:26

AutumnW

1st January 2017, 05:35

Oh Turiya,

The same old end times, messianic crap. That stuff is so crazy and has been jerking believers around forever. The good lord wouldn't choose an orange guy with a twitter account and mob connections, to lead 'his' people -- unless he is a badass with a crazy sense of humor. :bigsmile:

turiya

1st January 2017, 05:49

So, It seems... like so many that come here... having lost their way... [hint: you're on the wrong thread, my dear...]
May you find your way back home in this most extraordinary happy new year... :Party:

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Andrei AKULOV (http://www.strategic-culture.org/authors/andrei-akulov.html) | 31.12.2016 | OPINION

2016 Ended: Saying Goodbye
to Roller-Coaster Year (http://www.strategic-culture.org/authors/andrei-akulov.html)
The year 2016 was a time of numerous major events providing no clue to what the world will be like in the 21st century. It could be anything – from plunging into devastating wars and economic downturns to unheard of prosperity and stability leaving the present turmoil in the past. There is no clear trend of global development and it’s impossible to say where the world is heading to. At least, not at the threshold of 2017.

The importance of information grew exponentially. 2016 will be remembered as a year of information wars. This factor is becoming increasingly instrumental in international affairs. No information sources are fully trusted anymore but the influence of media outlets and social networks is immense as the US electoral campaign showed.

Internet has become a battlefield where information wars are waged to influence large masses of people and a considerable number of world leaders. A media outlet has become the most powerful weapon used by a «warring side».

Geopolitical instability was increasing. There were geopolitical uncertainties, such as Brexit, the slowdown of China’s economic development to affect the global economic situation, and slow-moving trends in demographics and productivity growth.

2016 will be remembered as the year of the fourth industrial revolution (http://www3.weforum.org/docs/Media/KSC_4IR.pdf) - a phenomenon expected to change the world as we know it today. It started with consequences unknown. Despite rapid changes (https://www.technologyreview.com/lists/technologies/2016/) in technology, greater productivity, and the progress in labor force skills, the global economy was going through another year of stagnation. Internet, nanotechnology (https://theconversation.com/uk/topics/nanotechnology-34), bioscience, electronics, photonics (https://theconversation.com/uk/topics/photonics-2784), advanced (https://theconversation.com/uk/topics/graphene-992) materials and renewable energies (https://theconversation.com/uk/topics/renewable-energy-143) have so far failed to produce a qualitative leap in the lives of many ordinary people, with social problems remaining as acute as ever.

And so far nothing gives ground to say 2017 will be the year of rapid economic growth. The ongoing political and economic uncertainties around the world are expected to negatively affect the fourth industrial revolution. At least, that’s what it was like in the year that’s gone.

In 2016, the China-offered Free Trade Area of Asia-Pacific was launched while the US-initiated Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) has a slim chance to ever come to fruition. The China’s sponsored Asian Development Bank and European Bank for Reconstruction and Development started to sponsor the new Silk Road plan. If successful, these two projects can change the economic map of the contemporary world to benefit many other states and damage the US in terms of global standing.

The Silk Road Economic Belt will connect (http://www.philstar.com/business/2016/08/31/1618841/chinas-silk-road-project) China with Central Asia, Russia and the Baltic countries in Europe; with the Persian Gulf and the Mediterranean Sea through Central Asia and West Asia; and with Southeast Asia, South Asia and the Indian Ocean. The Maritime Silk Road, meanwhile, will link China’s coast to Europe through the South China Sea and the Indian Ocean in one route, and from China’s coast through the South China Sea to the South Pacific in the other. 2016 was the year when the global economic project got into full swing to give «prosperity for all» a chance.

It was the year when the so-called liberal world order was on shaky ground and retreating. In 2016, Europe continued to turn inward grappling with internal political challenges, violent extremism, and the migrant crisis. A host of facts and events in 2016 confirmed this trend, including the debates on Scottish independence, Brexit (http://www.scmp.com/topics/brexit), and the Dutch referendum on Ukraine’s European Union membership, the internal divisions (http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/09/07/eu-facing-risk-of-collapse.html) inside the EU, and Donald Trump elected in the US, to name a few.

The voices calling for revision of the European integration project were growing louder. In 2016, some called for convening a European constituent or foundational assembly to evaluate the situation and set new goals. Everybody agrees that things cannot continue as before. With anti-Russia sanctions doomed (http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/12/22/eu-shoots-itself-foot-prolonging-sanctions-russia.html) anyway, a more stable EU may benefit Moscow. After all, Russia is the third trading partner of the EU and the EU is the first trading partner of Russia.

2016 was the year of uncertainty to raise doubts about integration being a good thing. The European integration projects gives rise to a plethora of questions. Nobody knows what’s in store. Only when the effects of Brexit take shape and the results of elections in a number of leading countries, including Germany and Italy, are known, will it become possible to make predictions about the future of the Old Continent.

There were no breakthroughs in the Middle East but no new conflict erupted while the old ones lingered. The Islamic State group lost over a quarter of the territory in Iraq and Syria. It was retreating everywhere. There was a positive turn of events in Syria with Aleppo retaken long before the end of the year and Raqqa, the informal capital of the extremist group, surrounded by US-led forces. In 2016, the main pertinent actors dropped their «Assad must go» demand, with Russia, Turkey and Iran launching a crisis management effort in a new format with other parties invited to join.

The Islamic State was also defeated in Sirte, Libya. In 2016 it became evident that an international crisis management operation in that country is likely to take place (http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/11/11/what-visit-libyan-lawmakers-russia-means.html) with many actors involved. Any viable solution to the Middle East situation requires an international effort. Russia and the West may be facing a wide gap to divide them but joining together to tackle the region’s problems appears to be a logical step.

2016 was the year when the crisis of arms control (http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/06/15/arms-control-non-proliferation-looming-crisis-slipping-through-cracks-public-attention.html) and non-proliferation continued with no positive results and no prospects for the future. Hopes for a dialogue in this field have been largely frustrated.

All told, it was a year of dashed hopes and failed attempts to succeed. But it was not all doom and gloom. Global economy was slowly moving up, not down. There was no crisis and no downturn.

Some things were not in spotlight but they matter. Two weeks before Brexit, the African Union announced (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/07/01/the-opposite-of-brexit-african-union-launches-an-all-africa-passport/) a new single African passport that permits holders to enter any of the 54 AU member states without a visa – an interesting turn in African history while the European integration was hitting headlines. World hunger reached its (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/09/opinion/is-the-era-of-great-famines-over.html) lowest point in 25 years. According to (http://sciencebulletin.org/archives/5347.html) new data, acid pollution in the atmosphere is now almost back to the level that it was before it started with industrialization in the 1930s. Colon cancer, dementia, and heart disease, started declining (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/10/upshot/a-medical-mystery-of-the-best-kind-major-diseases-are-in-decline.html) in advanced countries.

Global terrorists were gradually losing ground. The Islamic State quietly started preparing (http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/12/12/after-the-islamic-state?utm_source=nextdraft&utm_medium=email) its followers for the eventual collapse of the caliphate it proclaimed with great fanfare two years ago. Following the end of conflict in Colombia in 2016, all of the war in the world is now limited (http://bigstory.ap.org/a373feb288f24f0fb7b9e731fc582593&utm_source) to an arc that contains less than a sixth (https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/04/15/the-decline-war-and-violence/lxhtEplvppt0Bz9kPphzkL/story.html) of the world’s population.

The relations between Russia and the West went on deteriorating, but contacts were maintained. At least three sessions of Russia-NATO Council were held. None of the parties said the relationship was suspended. And they confirmed their readiness for further talks.

With all its achievements and failures, it was a year of transition, a harbinger of new reality which had not been neither foreseen, nor predicted. And there was a silver lining to make the world look forward to 2017 with hope and determination to overcome setbacks and snags on the way.

SOURCE (http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/12/31/2016-ended-saying-goodbye-roller-coaster-year.html)

onawah

1st January 2017, 06:14

It appears to me that prophecies in the main are a form of implanted mind control which have been used for centuries to bring about the plans the elite's controllers made thousands of years ago for humanity.
They laid it all out, let the prophets believe that the visions were original to themselves, then laughed up their sleeves at our gullibility.
I'm not buying it anymore, and certainly not prophecies about Trump being a hero.
IMHO, he's just another tool, playing out his role no differently than his predecessors.

turiya

1st January 2017, 07:00

http://wbbh.images.worldnow.com/images/12823622_G.jpg

turiya

1st January 2017, 17:31

https://cdn.trictrac.net/documents/formats/thumb_100_100/documents/originals/98/0f/cabe8f77c1e52e7499f5463024b391bf4745.pngAngry Duck...

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turiya

1st January 2017, 18:57

Happy New Year 2017 Clif High Predictions...

Clif High-2017 Predictions on Everything
(Published on Dec 31, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVAI07f-5M0Published on Dec 31, 2016

Internet data mining expert Clif High uses calls what he does “Predictive Linguistics,” to mine the Internet and collects billions of data points to produce forecasts of the future. High has predictions on Trump, gold, silver, housing, stocks, bonds, the dollar, interest rates and even new discoveries that will change the world that are coming out of Antarctica.

AutumnW

2nd January 2017, 03:52

Cool Turiya,

Thanks for the link! And happy new year to you!

AutumnW

2nd January 2017, 03:58

Turiya -- We differ in our opinions, but I appreciate your hopeful outlook and feel that even though he is the wrong man for the job, Trump might be pointing us all in the right direction.

Chester

2nd January 2017, 04:48

Hi AutumnW,

I am curious.

If we can agree that realistically there was either going to be a Democrat nominee or a Republican nominee who would eventually become the 45th President-elect of the United States on November 8, 2016, who do you think would have been "the right" one for the job who ran for the nomination of their party?

AutumnW

2nd January 2017, 05:03

I kind of liked Sanders, but his foreign policy would have mirrored Clinton's, so I don't know how great he would have been. There wasn't one candidate I would have been happy to see win. Not one.

turiya

2nd January 2017, 06:31

I'll say there's a difference, Autumn... more than that, there's in fact a 'Yuuge' Difference...
Bernie Sanders: "Global Warming is directly responsible for creating ISIS" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cUi1s9lpys)... lol... <<go on - click on the link - and have a look see & hear it for yourself^^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cUi1s9lpys

The truth about Bernie further revealed itself when he threw his towel in & decided to support Hillary "The Queen of Corruption" Clinton...
That's almost as laugh-able as Obama's Legacy...

Obama's Legacy: The World Will Not Be Fooled!
(Published December 16, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6gFqz32cfQ___________________________

Bill Holter sets the record straight on Obama's so-called 'Legacy' regarding the U.S. economy & Jobs statistics...

Our Standard Of Living Is Coming To An End,
Expect A 30-50% Drop: Bill Holter
(Published on Dec 31, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mir1hyg066w___________________________

Eva Bartlett finishes Obama's Legacy by setting the record straight on Assad & what's going on in Syria... not to mention what General Flynn has said about Obama administration funding the so-called "Syrian Rebels"... a.k.a. ISIS...

FAKE MSM lies about Syria exposed
by Canadian journalist Eva Bartlett
(Published on Dec 13, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb0eOcWreH8___________________________

Zero Hedge also would tend to differ with Obama's self-promotion of his supposed Legacy...

https://kauilapele.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/zero_hedge_logo_31.gif
Obama Brags About
"Remarkable Progress" Of Past 8 Years -
Our Data Paints A Slightly Different Picture (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-02/obama-brags-about-remarkable-progress-past-8-years-our-data-paints-slightly-differen)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Jan 2, 2017 1:35 PM
As we close out 2016 and draw nearer to the end of Obama's 8 years in the White House, our commander-in-chief decided to celebrate by once again telling us all just how awesome he thinks he is via a lovely little tweet storm.

More at the Source (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-02/obama-brags-about-remarkable-progress-past-8-years-our-data-paints-slightly-differen)

onawah

2nd January 2017, 17:12

In short, it appears like the transition from Enlil's rule to Enki's, a slightly less despotic boss, but no real basic difference--a despot is a despot.

I don't see how you've arrived at that conclusion, Paul.
Global chaos and misery seem to have always been the choice of the elites (and their masters) for the rest of us, so why would that change now?
Would you please explain? Thanks.

But international competition will be governed by the hidden hand of elites, so that the dreadful genocides, financial fraud, ecological holocaust, monetary and economic collapse, and destruction of cultures and people cannot and will not be allowed to happen again.

Ah - I am not saying that the elite will end those and other evils.

I am saying that the elite will condemn some of those evils, and throw under the bus some of the perpetrators of some of those evils. The elite will do this to build popular support, or at least mass acceptance, for the next round of changes, that increase the scope of the elite's global control over humanity.

I should have put the phrase "so that the dreadful genocides, financial fraud, ecological holocaust, monetary and economic collapse, and destruction of cultures and people cannot and will not be allowed to happen again" in quotes or something -- that will be the stated motive of the elite, not their real, hidden motive.

turiya

2nd January 2017, 17:33

onawah
Please try to refrain from bringing in such off-topic tripe
onto this particular thread which is focused on Trump & politics...
Thank you.

Take The Blue Pill?
(Published on Jan 1, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yViIz06M82A

Chester

2nd January 2017, 17:45

Maybe I should have called this my New Year's hope -

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95211-Your-2017-Predictions...-please&p=1124216&viewfull=1#post1124216

apologies... back to the real world topic.

Whiskey_Mystic

2nd January 2017, 17:53

onawah
[I][COLOR="darkslategray"]Please try to refrain from bringing in such off-topic tripe
onto this particular thread which is focused on Trump & politics...

What Onawah has to say has merit whether or not it is of particular interest to you. I found it very on topic myself.

Thank you, Onawah. _()_

onawah

2nd January 2017, 18:02

The thread entitled Trump is not the Answer is still alive and well, for "tripe lovers", Whiskey Mystic. :lol:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94907-Trump-is-NOT-the-answer

onawah
[I][COLOR="darkslategray"]Please try to refrain from bringing in such off-topic tripe
onto this particular thread which is focused on Trump & politics...

What Onawah has to say has merit whether or not it is of particular interest to you. I found it very on topic myself.

Thank you, Onawah. _()_

Chester

2nd January 2017, 18:06

The following makes compelling points about the left's hollow "popular vote" argument which I will highlight first. But the article goes much further by pointing out the importance of the electoral system in maintaining what the United States was actually all about from its inception. This article also emphasizes the reality that the US just may have narrowly avoided being taken over by minions of the very forces many on this forum wish would fail.

The US Presidency: How Important Is Hillary’s 2,864,974 Popular-Vote Win?

California alone accounted for all of Hillary’s popular-vote win, plus 1,405,004 votes

America’s Electoral College — the publicly elected representatives who select the U.S. President — voted on Monday, December 19th, and chose Donald Trump as America’s next President, though Hillary Clinton had won nearly three million more of the nation’s popular votes on November 8th than he did.

Here was the top of the homepage of the anti-Trump (and anti-Russia) Huffington Post, (http://web.archive.org/web/20161219230107/http://www.huffingtonpost.com/) in America, on Monday night, December 19th, focusing on Hillary Clinton’s having won more people’s votes than Trump did:

How significant is it that Ms. Clinton had won the votes of more Americans, but Mr. Trump has won the votes of more Electors? Here are the relevant facts, by which to understand this:

In some respects, the United States of America is a federal system, not a unitary state system. The U.S. Constitution established the nation that way, and it remains in effect to this day. The Electoral College chooses the nation’s President, and it consists of Electors who represent their individual states, but it is constructed according to a formula (for weighting each state’s influence in selecting a President) that apportions the number of Electors so as to correlate rather closely with each given state’s population. Thus, the Electoral College is partly a unitary-state system (one-person-one-vote), and partly a federal-state system (each state having different-sized delegations in the Electoral College, depending upon each state’s population-size).

America’s by-far largest state, California, accounts, all on its own, for the entirety of Hillary Clinton’s popular-vote victory — and more besides.

Her win of the U.S. popular vote was two-thirds the size of her win of the California popular-vote. The one state of California accounts for 1.49 times her win of the national vote. California accounted for all of her 2,864,974 national-vote win, plus an additional 1,405,004 votes.

Figures here are from Wikipedia, as of 19 December 2016 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2016):

Hillary’s California victory-margin over Trump:
CA 4,269,978

Hillary’s nationwide popular-vote victory-margin:
U.S. 2,864,974

Hillary’s nationwide 2% win by 2,864,974 votes would have been a nationwide loss by 1,405,002 votes, if she had won California by 50 %+1 vote, to 50%-1 for Trump. Instead, she won California by 61.73%, to 31.62%. (Furthermore, in the Electoral College, almost all states have established a winner-take-all-rule, so that, for example, «all 55 of California’s Electoral votes go to the winner of the state election, even if the margin of victory is only 50.1 percent to 49.9 percent» — in other words, she didn’t win any more Electoral College votes from her 61.73% California landslide win than she would have won by a bare 50%+1 win of California).

Hillary’s 4,269,978-vote win of California was 1.49 times — 49% larger than — her nationwide 2,864,974-vote win.

In addition, Hillary also scored big wins in three other big liberal states: NY, IL, and MA.

The following 3 states total to 3,592,220 votes:

NY 1,702,792

IL 944,714

MA 904,303

The grand total of the 4 states (NY, IL, MA, and CA): 7,862,198

But, even if Hillary had won those three states by only around 50-50, her 4,269,978-vote edge over Trump in CA would still have been 4,269,978 - 3,592,220 = 677,758 popular votes more than Trump in these four mega-liberal states together (as compared to her actual win there of 7,862,198 popular votes). That would have switched 7,862,198 - 677,758 = 7,184,440 of her votes to Trump, and so he still would have won clearly the popular vote. He and she would not have done any differently in the Electoral College than they have, in fact, done, but Trump would have scored a huge win in the nationwide popular vote — a much bigger win in the popular vote than Hillary has, in fact, won.

If the nation had violated the Constitution and handed Ms. Clinton the win due to her 2,864,974 popular-vote victory, then it would have been handing the entire Presidency to the winner of the biggest state, and written off all the rest of the United States — where Clinton lost overwhelmingly. Fortunately, that did not happen.

The evidence therefore shows that Trump won the Presidency by strategizing strictly upon the basis of the U.S. Constitution, and not — as Hillary evidently did — at least partly upon the national popularity-contest. He devoted his resources to the key toss-up states, and ignored the states — including CA, NY, IL, and MA — where the polling showed that his campaigning would be an utter waste of his time and money.

The four mega-liberal states — New York, California, Illinois, and Massachusetts — happen also to be America’s four national-‘news’-media centers; and, so, this reality, and Trump’s win of the election (the Electoral College), naturally strikes many in the national press (such as the owners of the Huffington Post) as being wildly at variance with their ‘rational’ expectations, because those people aren’t so intelligent, and they reason upon the basis of mental structures different from the reality. (Maybe they are also stupid enough to believe her campaign-rhetoric even though it contrasted sharply with her actual decisions and policies as a government-official.) Furthermore, they are wildly out-of-touch with the pain throughout the rest of the country, and they accept the aristocracy’s false analysis of its causes and of its solutions (the cause isn’t bigotry against women, minorities, etc. It is their own bigotry against the poor — of any group); so, they think that Hillary was ‘obviously’ better than Trump, and cannot imagine that she’s worse (or even worse, if Trump too is bad) than Trump. This blindness-to-reality enables the ‘news’ media to support vigorously the Democratic Party’s attempts to de-legitimize Trump as President. They believe strongly in the aristocracy’s ideology (that the barrier to equality-of-opportunity is more an ethnic bigotry than it is a class-bigotry) and so they continue to obsess upon ethnicity, gender, etc., even after the past year’s political results, both in the U.S. and in Europe, are showing how divorced from the reality, they actually are.

This explains why the owners of America’s ‘news’ media tend to be both perplexed and angry that Hillary Clinton (whose basic campaign theme was that there is no class-problem in America, but only many different bigotry-problems) lost this election.

SOURCE (http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/12/22/us-presidency-how-important-hillary-2864974-popular-vote-win.html)

The highlighting of the last two paragraphs are my own emphasis.

turiya

2nd January 2017, 18:08

AutumnW

2nd January 2017, 18:26

I thought the murder rates were down, Turiya, in Chicago, too. Wasn't this exposed as bs. Have you fact checked it, and further, do you fact check anything Trump declares as fact. Its probably a good idea.

Sam, the major devides in the U.S. are coastal, rural versus urban and rich versus poor. The racial divide is as much a reflection of the rich versus poor divide as anything, but it is a realty. Clinton and other Democrats choose to hyper focus on that divide to the exclusion of other divides because they can then default to characterizing their opponents as 'bigots.'

It's one big basket of deplorables, the entire political class.

turiya

2nd January 2017, 18:35

Chester

2nd January 2017, 18:48

The racial divide is as much a reflection of the rich versus poor divide as anything, but it is a reality. Clinton and other Democrats choose to hyper focus on that divide to the exclusion of other divides because they can then default to characterizing their opponents as 'bigots.'

And the media pushed this. The media fans the flames of this fire. As was posted earlier and stated by Morgan Freeman (paraphrased) - "If you want it to diminish... stop talking about it obsessively."

I have spent a good ten years living on the island Curacao. Curacao is inhabited by human beings just like the US. Curacao has a a significant portion of descendants from slaves brought from Africa. Here's the make-up of population from the CIA Factbook - (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/resources/the-world-factbook/geos/print_cc.html)

Afro-Caribbean majority; Dutch, French, Latin American, East Asian, South Asian, Jewish minorities

The difference in my experience with regards to racial division in comparison to the US is truly night and day. People get along with hardly ever any hint that someone's race makes any difference. And Curacao has no media beating the racial drum.

It is my opinion that the primary culprit in the US (and many parts of the Western World) is the media's obvious bias to the left and thus their need to constantly push this issue via identity politics (which is inherently based on division by emphasizing superficial difference). Of course also, the fault lies at the feet of the politicians on the left who push this same issue over and over and over again. And of course there's elements of the one party state that fly under the banner of Republican who do their part in maintaining this dialectic.

THIS is what Trump ran against and this is what got him elected. Thankfully enough sane people saw through it.

It's one big basket of deplorables, the entire political class.

Agree and is exactly why I voted for Trump and why I want to give him a chance - he's not a politician and never has been.

For me the bottom line is simple to see. If Hillary (or any other politician) had won, I have 100% certainty it would have been "game over" for Planet Earth. So regardless of what happens with Trump, it could not possibly be worse than what would have been. So just based on simple logic, only good (as opposed to what would have been) can happen.

It is my opinion that plenty of good will happen. The good that can happen can be magnified if he would at least be given a chance... like the chance I gave Obama eight years ago as I supported the hope and change he promised to bring.

I thought the murder rates were down, Turiya, in Chicago, too. Wasn't this exposed as bs. Have you fact checked it, and further, do you fact check anything Trump declares as fact. Its probably a good idea.

2013 - 441 murders

2014 - 432 murders

2015 - 492 murders

2016 - 762 murders

SOURCE (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Chicago)

and from WaPo - (clearly left leaning biased "newspaper")

America is safer than it was decades ago. But homicides are up again in Chicago and cities across the country (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/07/26/halfway-through-2016-homicides-are-up-in-more-than-two-dozen-big-u-s-cities/?utm_term=.3581e4fb058f)

So when one measures the rise against the drop in everywhere but Chicago and other cities (but especially Chicago) then there was no misrepresentation by Turiya.

Final point -

I think its important for folks who dive into the issues to access as many information sources as they can, analyze each for their bias, consider what they experience in their real life and then from all that, generate operational assumptions while remaining ever open minded to changing one's mind when new data becomes available.

TargeT

2nd January 2017, 20:25

Some things... some people... are very much worth ignoring...
The following is not one of them...
Especially if you plan on taking a trip to Chicago...

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/TRUMP_TWEETS/TRUMP_TWITTER_ICON_4.png (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/815973752785793024)
Chicago murder rate is record setting -
4,331 shooting victims with 762 murders in 2016.
If Mayor can't do it he must ask for Federal help!

9:31 AM - 2 Jan 2017

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/815973752785793024)

https://www.thetrace.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Five-Year-Murder-Rates-1024x0-c-default.png

Per capita wise. I'm still in the highest murder rate area of the US. (https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/latest-crime-statistics-released)

Funny that most these places are HEAVILY "democratic" in political leaning....

turiya

2nd January 2017, 21:36

Fact-checking Trump - over & over & over again - has proven him to be most correct.... the major concern that one should be wary of is that the fact that the lying MSM, namely Politifact is a baised & Left-leaning liberal publication... same thing with Snopes...

Zero Hedge, on the contrary, has proven to be most astute & forthright in what they publish... fact-check complete

https://kauilapele.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/zero_hedge_logo_31.gif
Surging Chicago Murder Rates
Single-Handedly Driving Up
Overall National Average (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-20/surging-chicago-murder-rates-single-handedly-driving-overall-national-average)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Dec 20, 2016 5:00 PM
The Brennan Center for Justice (https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/analysis/Crime_in_2016_Updated_Analysis.pdf) has just updated its annual crime report [updated December 19, 2016], and the surge in violent crime and murder rates across the country is somewhat staggering. While the Brennan Center continues to downplay the YoY increases, saying "concerns about a national crime wave are still premature," the numbers seem to paint a different story with murder rates in the largest 30 U.S. cities expected to increase 15.5% in 2016. Meanwhile, that number would be over 17% if the study reflected the most recent 2016 Chicago murder estimate of 800.

The violent crime rate is projected to increase slightly, by 3.3 percent, driven by increases in Chicago (17.7 percent increase) and Charlotte (13.4 percent increase). This is less than the 5.5 percent increase initially projected in the September report. Violent crime still remains near the bottom of the nation’s 30-year downward trend.

The 2016 murder rate is projected to be 14 percent higher than last year in the 30 largest cities. Chicago is projected to account for 43.7 percent of the total increase in murders. The preliminary 2016 report identified some reasons for increasing violence in Chicago, such as falling police numbers, poverty and other forms of socioeconomic disadvantage, and gang violence. A similar phenomenon occurred in 2015, when a group of three cities — Baltimore, Chicago, and Washington, D.C. — accounted for more than half of the increase in murders. This year Baltimore and Washington, D.C., are projected to see their murder rates decline, by 6 percent and 18.6 percent, respectively.

An increase in the murder rate is occurring in some cities even while other forms of crime remain relatively low. Concerns about a national crime wave are still premature, but these trends suggest a need to understand how and why murder is increasing in some cities.

Of course, the stunning increase in Chicago murders (expected to increase over 55% in 2016) does account for over 50% of the overall increase in murders in the country's largest 30 cities. That said, per the chart below, several other cities, including San Antonio, Dallas, Memphis and Las Vegas, are starting to reflect some concerning trends of their own.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user230519/imageroot/2016/09/26/20160926%20-%20FBI%20Crime%20Data%201_1.jpg

Meanwhile, per HeyJackAss! (http://heyjackass.com/), even though the colder weather was supposed to "chill" weekend violence in Chicago's most dangerous neighborhoods, it appears to be having little impact at all as the city just recorded one of it's most deadly weekends of the year.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user230519/imageroot/2016/12/20/2016.12.20%20-%20Chicago%201.JPG

With 769 murders recorded year to date, the Windy City looks to still be on pace to exceed 800 for the full year...

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user230519/imageroot/2016/12/20/2016.12.20%20-%20Chicago%202_0.JPG

...which would be a 57% YoY increase and the most recorded murders since 1995.

https://i1.wp.com/www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user230519/imageroot/2016/12/20/2016.12.20%20-%20Chicago%203_0.jpg?resize=600%2C508

That said, "concerns about a national crime wave are still premature"...nothing to see here.

SOURCE (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-20/surging-chicago-murder-rates-single-handedly-driving-overall-national-average)

Daozen

2nd January 2017, 22:42

onawah
Please try to refrain from bringing in such off-topic tripe
onto this particular thread which is focused on Trump & politics...
Thank you.

In turn, maybe you could refrain from talking to people in that icy, haughty tone. The first thing a decent used-car salesman learns is how to respect the customer, right? Happy New Year, I'm sure. :dancingbananas:

P.S. I saw you promoting Keshe in another thread. Any chance of an alliance between Trump and Keshe?

Cidersomerset

2nd January 2017, 23:18

He does comment a little on Trump , but an interesting interview under the
current circumstances ......

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95187-Obama-orders-Russia-expulsions-sanctions-for-interference-in-2016-election&p=1124447&viewfull=1#post1124447

John McAfee On The Russian Hacking Says It's NOT Russia!

Dvj0v0W6yjk

Published on 30 Dec 2016

Following the release of an FBI report outlining Russia’s alleged role in hacking the
2016 election, Larry King sat down to talk with tech pioneer John McAfee to discuss
the current state of cybersecurity.

McAfee is no stranger to cybersecurity. As the developer of the first commercial
antivirus program, he has been a major player in the industry for the past 50
years. He is also the CEO of MGT Capital Investments, and an outspoken former
presidential candidate for the Libertarian Party.

Based on all of his experience, McAfee does not believe that Russians were behind
the hacks on the Democratic National Committee (DNC), John Podesta’s emails,
and the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign. As he told RT, “if it looks like the
Russians did it, then I can guarantee you it was not the Russians.”

The Joint Analysis Report from the FBI contains an appendix that lists hundreds of
IP addresses that were supposedly “used by Russian civilian and military
intelligence services.” While some of those IP addresses are from Russia, the
majority are from all over the world, which means that the hackers constantly
faked their location.

Cidersomerset

2nd January 2017, 23:24

Chicago murder rate is record setting -
4,331 shooting victims with 762 murders in 2016.
If Mayor can't do it he must ask for Federal help!

Funny enough I just came to this from another source....

Turkey : Istanbul new year Reina nightclub attack 'leaves 39 dead'.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95215-Turkey-Istanbul-new-year-Reina-nightclub-attack-leaves-39-dead-....1st-act-0f-terror-...2017....&p=1124477&viewfull=1#post1124477

The Terror scare meme is designed to put fear everywhere and has been
going on more or less since the media began, but millions pass over every
day for all sorts of reasons , and this item brings home how sad,ridiculous
and hypocritical the whole thing is.......................

Chicago violence claims one child a week

MAcEL4o4diQ

Published on 2 Jan 2017

There were 762 murders in Chicago in 2016, a particularly deadly year
for the city. CNN's Rosa Flores reports on what is behind the killing spree.

turiya

3rd January 2017, 00:15

The Burning Platform (https://www.theburningplatform.com/)

http://www.drr.mdfsa.lk/images/WebSlides/DRR-Web-Slide-A6.jpg

A BIASED 2017 FORECAST
(PART ONE) (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/12/12/cnn-reveals-conclusive-evidence-of-russia-hacking-election/)
December 31, 2016
by Daniel Kahneman

https://ralphlosey.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/hind-sight.jpg

“The idea that the future is unpredictable is undermined every day by the ease with which the past is explained.” – Daniel Kahneman, Thinking, Fast and Slow (https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0374533555/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=8ffc9c377d8367fe36db638bf565ad84&creativeASIN=0374533555)

A couple weeks ago I was lucky enough to see a live one hour interview with Michael Lewis at the Annenberg Center about his new book The Undoing Project (https://www.amazon.com/Undoing-Project-Friendship-Changed-Minds/dp/0393254593/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=ea31903e782bcf1338a1af52db948609&creativeASIN=0393254593). Everyone attending the lecture received a complimentary copy of the book. Being a huge fan of Lewis after reading "Liar’s Poker", Boomerang, The Big Short, Flash Boys, and Moneyball, I was interested to hear about his new project. This was a completely new direction from his financial crisis books. I wasn’t sure whether it would keep my interest, but the story of Daniel Kahneman and Amos Tversky and their research into the psychology of judgement and decision making, creating a cognitive basis for common human errors that arise from heuristics and biases, was an eye opener.

In psychology, heuristics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heuristic) are simple, efficient rules which people often use to form judgments and make decisions. They are mental shortcuts that usually involve focusing on one aspect of a complex problem and ignoring others. These rules work well under most circumstances, but they can lead to systematic deviations from logic, probability or rational choice theory. The resulting errors are called “cognitive biases” and many different types have been documented.

In psychology, heuristics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heuristic) are simple, efficient rules which people often use to form judgments and make decisions. They are mental shortcuts that usually involve focusing on one aspect of a complex problem and ignoring others. These rules work well under most circumstances, but they can lead to systematic deviations from logic, probability or rational choice theory. The resulting errors are called “cognitive biases” and many different types have been documented.

Heuristics usually govern automatic, intuitive judgments but can also be used as deliberate mental strategies when working from limited information. Kahneman and Tversky created the heuristics and biases research program, which studies how people make real-world judgments and the conditions under which those judgments are unreliable. Their research challenged the idea that human beings are rational actors, but provided a theory of information processing to explain how people make estimates or choices. Kahneman won a Nobel Prize in economics for his work in behavioral economics.

To put their research into terms the common person can understand, human decision making is extremely flawed due to our biases, feelings, irrational thought processes and beliefs in falsehoods. It’s over-confidence in our decision making ability that causes us the most problems. For the average person this can result in financial hardship, frustration or a premature death.

When high level government officials, bankers or corporate executives make flawed decisions due to their biases, it can mean war, financial disasters, depressions, or disastrous legislation like Obamacare. Hubris, egotism and faulty reasoning, as noted by Mark Twain one hundred and fifty years ago, can kill you and in some cases lead to war and unthinkable levels of death and destruction.

“It’s not what you don’t know that kills you,
it’s what you know for sure that ain’t true.” – Mark Twain (https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1244.Mark_Twain)
In the seven weeks since the election of Donald Trump as our next president, I’ve witnessed the largest case of hindsight bias in world history. Hindsight bias, also known as the knew-it-all-along effect or creeping determinism, is the inclination, after an event has occurred, to see the event as having been predictable, despite there having been little or no objective basis for predicting it.

On November 7 the “expert” pollsters like Nate Silver; every corporate mainstream media network, newspaper, and website; along with elitist economists, professors, Hollywood movie stars, Wall Street bankers, and billionaire oligarchs; were 100% sure Hillary Clinton was going to be elected president. Only the deplorables thought otherwise – and they spoke loudly. Putin had nothing to do with the result.

These very same “experts” and “deep thinkers” now act as if Trump’s election was foreseeable, predictable and the likely outcome. They bloviate about how and why he won as if they knew it was going to happen. When 99% of all establishment “experts” were sure Trump was going to be crushed in a Clinton landslide, why should anyone listen to a word they say?

The same people who didn’t see even the faintest possibility of a Trump victory now expect the ignorant masses to believe their analysis of what will happen next. I would like to attribute their obtuseness to cognitive biases, but I believe it is more insidious. The Deep State propaganda machine is hard at work spreading falsehoods.

“A reliable way to make people believe in falsehoods is frequent repetition, because familiarity is not easily distinguished from truth. Authoritarian institutions and marketers have always known this fact.” – Daniel Kahneman, Thinking, Fast and Slow (https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0374533555/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=8ffc9c377d8367fe36db638bf565ad84&creativeASIN=0374533555)

The onslaught of 2017 predictions from a myriad of Wall Street “experts” talking their book, highly educated economists demonstrating their lack of prescience, mainstream media pundits peddling propaganda and cheerleaders cheering for their home teams, has already begun. I haven’t written an annual forecast article in a few years because I was tired of being wrong. Since I have no newsletters or books to sell, no investments to peddle, and no agenda to push, an annual forecast will just be my best guess at what will happen in 2017.

The two biases most likely to color my analysis are confirmation bias (The tendency to focus on information in a way that confirms my preconceptions) and pessimism bias (The tendency to overestimate the likelihood of negative things happening). My family and friends think I’m a pessimist. I think I’m a realist. I try to use data to back-up my conclusions, but as George Dvorsky points out, our brains often lead us astray.

“The human brain is capable of 1016 processes per second, which makes it far more powerful than any computer currently in existence. But that doesn’t mean our brains don’t have major limitations. The lowly calculator can do math thousands of times better than we can, and our memories are often less than useless — plus, we’re subject to cognitive biases, those annoying glitches in our thinking that cause us to make questionable decisions and reach erroneous conclusions.” – George Dvorsky

My predictions will be framed by my belief we are midway through a Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=936b87bc9d6f44ddbfeaf95a2c3f7388&creativeASIN=0767900464) era of crisis. The three catalysts framing this Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=936b87bc9d6f44ddbfeaf95a2c3f7388&creativeASIN=0767900464) are debt, civic decay, and global disorder. No amount of normalcy bias, optimism bias, over-confidence, or desire for the status quo, will take precedence over the uncontrollable mechanisms propelling this Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=936b87bc9d6f44ddbfeaf95a2c3f7388&creativeASIN=0767900464).

We are in the midst of a once in a lifetime crisis and there is only one thing more frightening than not knowing what is coming next, and that is living in a world run by “experts” who think they know exactly what is going to happen next. These are the same “experts” who didn’t see the 2005 housing bubble, the 2008 financial collapse, the EU implosion, Brexit, or the Trump presidency.

“It’s frightening to think that you might not know something, but more frightening to think that, by and large, the world is run by people who have faith that they know exactly what is going on.” – Amos Tversky (https://www.amazon.com/Choices-Values-Frames-Daniel-Kahneman-ebook/dp/B00GA22J92/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=28263d3282e06500b8cccf0fa6c6ccc3&creativeASIN=B00GA22J92)

I try to understand the world around me every day, but the hyper-complexity, noise, Deep State propaganda, and volume of data points is overwhelming to our easily distracted brains. I have constructed a story in my mind of how things will develop over the next five to ten years based upon the generational theory put forth by Strauss & Howe in their book The Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/Choices-Values-Frames-Daniel-Kahneman-ebook/dp/B00GA22J92/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=28263d3282e06500b8cccf0fa6c6ccc3&creativeASIN=B00GA22J92). It is not a story with a happy ending.

I don’t have high confidence that I understand how it will play out and what specific events will propel history in the making. I can admit my deficiencies, while people in power with the ability to blow up the world overestimate their understanding of the world and ignore the role of chance in events.

“We are prone to overestimate how much we understand about the world and to underestimate the role of chance in events.” – Daniel Kahneman, Thinking, Fast and Slow (https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0374533555/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=8ffc9c377d8367fe36db638bf565ad84&creativeASIN=0374533555)

Knowing what I don’t know about the unknowns, I’ll try and use what I do know to make some prognostications about 2017:

Debt Forecast

It is fascinating to me no one seems all that worried about the systematically dangerous levels of global debt supporting essentially bankrupt governments, banks and consumers. Global debt stood at $142 trillion at the end of 2007, just prior to a worldwide financial meltdown, caused by too much bad debt in the financial system.

To “fix” this problem, central bankers around the globe ramped up their electronic printing presses to hyper-drive and created another $57 trillion of debt by mid-2014. They haven’t taken their foot off the gas since. Today, global debt most certainly exceeds $225 trillion and has surpassed 300% of global GDP. Rogoff and Reinhart made a pretty strong case that when debt to GDP exceeds 90%, disaster will follow.

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Global debt issuance reached a record $6.6 trillion in 2016, with corporations accounting for $3.6 trillion – most of which was used to buy back their stock at all-time highs. What could possibly go wrong? The level of normalcy bias amongst financial “experts”, the intelligentsia, and the common man is breathtaking to behold. We are in the midst of the mother of all bubbles, never witnessed in the history of mankind, and we pretend everything is normal, with no consequences for our reckless disregard for honesty, rational thinking, or simple math.

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The 2000 dot.com bubble and the 2008 housing bubble were one dimensional. This mother of all bubbles required the global coordination and unprecedented irresponsible intervention of the US Federal Reserve, the European Central Bank (ECB), the Bank of Japan (BOJ), the Bank of England (BOE) and the Swiss National Bank (SNB) to lead the world to the brink of monetary disaster. The highly educated theorists running these central banks have created tens of trillions in unpayable debt while suppressing interest rates to zero or below at the behest of their Deep State masters.

The result is simultaneous bubbles in stocks, bonds and real estate. The pin destined to pop all the bubbles is slightly higher interest rates. The 1% increase in the 10 Year Treasury is already causing havoc in the housing market, the bond market and is hammering pension funds. With the hundreds of trillions in globally interconnected derivatives primed to detonate, 2017 could be an explosive year.

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Here are a few things I think could happen in 2017 on the economic front:

The national debt stands at $19.9 trillion and will reach $20 trillion before Obama departs. With spending on automatic pilot and tax revenue in decline, the national debt will reach $21 trillion in 2017. With most of the debt financed short-term, the increase in rates will ratchet the interest on the debt from $433 billion to over $550 billion.

With the CPI increasing by over 3% in the first few months of the year, the Fed will continue to raise rates, and the 10 Year Treasury will breach the 3% level.

Home prices have surpassed the 2006 peak, even though existing home sales are still 20% below 2006 levels and housing starts are 50% below 2006 levels. The entire “recovery” has been engineered by the Fed and Wall Street at the high end of the market. With mortgage rates up 1% already, the further increase will result in existing home sales and housing starts falling by 20% in 2017 and home prices falling by 5% to 10%.

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The short-term OPEC agreement will allow oil prices to move back to $60 per barrel, further eating into consumer discretionary spending. Desperate fracking companies needing cash flow to service their debt will ramp up. Bankrupt or near bankrupt countries like Venezuela, Mexico, and Iran will also increase production. With a slowing global economy and surging supply, prices will collapse again into the $40s in the second half of the year.

Holiday sales for the bricks and mortar retailers will be reported in January as lukewarm at best. By February, the store closing announcements will reach into the hundreds. Sears will finally declare bankruptcy and shutter at least 50% of their stores. Mall developers will begin to declare bankruptcy as vacancies and rising interest rates create a perfect storm.

Consumer debt will reach the previous high of $1 trillion, as subprime student loan and auto debt continues to accumulate at an astounding pace. The spigot for student loans is likely to be tightened under Trump, with over 25% of the loans effectively in default. Auto sales (if you can call six year financing and 40% leases, sales) peaked in 2016. Millions of auto buyers are underwater on their loans, subprime auto loans are going into default quicker than you can say Cadillac Escalade, and higher interest rates will price out more potential suckers.

The faux jobs recovery is running out of steam. With non-existent wage growth, surging costs for rent, health care, energy, and credit cards tapped out, American families will hunker down and reduce spending further. With consumer spending accounting for 68% of GDP, this will lead to an official recession by the middle of 2017.

All the recent surveys showing consumer confidence soaring and optimism for 2017 are based on nothing but hope. The promises of a Trump administration will not come to fruition until 2018 at the earliest. He will meet resistance from Democrats across the board and resistance amongst his own party. His grand plans for massive tax cuts and spending increases will run into the reality of $1 trillion annual deficits. As reality sets in, and recession arrives, the unwarranted optimism will fade rapidly. Tax cuts will be tempered by reduced spending plans.

The USD hitting fourteen year highs against the basket of worldwide currencies does not bode well for bringing manufacturing jobs back to make America great again. The reason for the strong dollar is because we are the best looking horse in the glue factory. With Europe and Japan promoting negative interest rates and the Fed slowly raising rates, the dollar will continue to rise. This will hurt our manufacturing businesses, increase our $500 billion annual trade deficit further, and depress the profits of our global corporations.

With rising inflation, rising interest rates, stagnant wages, falling corporate profits, stock valuations at all-time highs, and corporations no longer able to finance stock buy backs at no cost, the stock market will finally hit the wall after a seven year bull market. This last surge of euphoria, based on nothing but Trumpmania sweeping Wall Street, will constitute the final blow-off. The market is currently valued to provide nominal returns of less than 1% over the next twelve years and is likely to experience an abrupt sell-off of 50% in the near future. I believe the near future will be 2017. I think the powers that be will be testing Trump’s mettle in his first year to see if he’ll play ball and do their bidding.

http://mystocksinvesting.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Shiller-PE-Ratio-Dec26-2016.png

“The illusion that we understand the past fosters overconfidence in our ability to predict the future.” – Daniel Kahneman, Thinking, Fast and Slow (https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0374533555/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=8ffc9c377d8367fe36db638bf565ad84&creativeASIN=0374533555)

In Part Two (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/01/01/a-biased-2017-forecast-part-two/) of this article I will ponder how much further our civic decay and global disorder will advance in 2017. Over-confidence, hubris and arrogance of our leaders will be the driving factors....

SOURCE (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/12/31/a-biased-2017-forecast-part-one/)

turiya

3rd January 2017, 07:45

John McAfee On The Russian Hacking Says It's NOT Russia!

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Published on 30 Dec 2016

Thank you, Cidersomerset for posting that John McAfee interview. Trump very much needs to have a private sector guy like this as a useful advisor.

And then there is this - Full interview coming out later today...

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Assange To Hannity: "Our Source
Is Not The Russian Government" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-02/assange-hannity-our-source-not-russian-government)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Jan 2, 2017 10:04 PM
It won't be the first time Julian Assange was interviewed and asked whether the source of the hacked DNC and Podesta emails was Russia; however, it will be the first time everyone pays attention to his answer. Recall that the first such interview of Assange (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-03/julian-assange-ends-suspense-source-hacked-emails-not-russia) - when the question of who had sourced Wikileaks with the hacked emails came up - took place exactly two months ago, on November 3. Back then, in an interview televized by RT, John Pilger explicitly asked Asange where the emails in question had come from.

Assange's response was straightforward: “The Clinton camp has been able to project a neo-McCarthyist hysteria that Russia is responsible for everything. Hillary Clinton has stated multiple times, falsely, that 17 US intelligence agencies had assessed that Russia was the source of our publications. That’s false – we can say that the Russian government is not the source.”

That particular interview took place when Trump has losing badly in the polls, and as such few people paid attention: after all, what difference did it make who had leaked the Podesta emails: Hillary Clinton was assured to win (with a 90%+ probability according to the NYT and other "non-fake news" outlets).

Needless to say, the issue of Russian hacking has since come back with a vengeance, and culminated last week with Obama expelling 35 Russian diplomats in the greatest diplomatic escalation between the US and Russia in decades; an action which took place based on a flimsy 13-page DHS/FBI report which demonstrated that anyone could have hacked the DNC emails if only they spent a few dollars to purchase a piece of Ukranian PHP malware (https://www.wordfence.com/blog/2016/12/russia-malware-ip-hack/).

Which is why many more will pay attention to Assange's next interview with Sean Hannity, which will air Tuesday on Fox News. According to a Fox News release, the two will discuss Russian hacking, the 2016 presidential election, and both the Obama and upcoming Trump administrations. It will air at 10 p.m. on Jan. 3, with additional portions of the interview airing throughout the week. As Variety adds (http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/sean-hannity-julian-assange-fox-news-interview-1201951057/), The interview will mark Assange’s first face-to-face cable news appearance. It is not, however, the first time he’s spoken publicly to Hannity. Most recently, in December, Assange called into Hannity’s radio show, in which the host gushed to Assange that “you’ve done us a favor” in exposing gaps in U.S. cybersecurity.

And while what Assange would say was rather predictable, as he would simply reiterate what he has said previously, courtesy of Real Clear Politics (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/01/02/assange_to_hannity_our_source_was_not_the_russian_ government.html), we have an advance glimpse into the punchline, to wit:

HANNITY: Can you say to the American people, unequivocally, that you did not get this information about the DNC, John Podesta's emails, can you tell the American people 1,000 percent that you did not get it from Russia or anybody associated with Russia?

ASSANGE: Yes. We can say, we have said, repeatedly that over the last two months that our source is not the Russian government and it is not a state party... Obama is trying to say that President-elect Trump is not a legitimate President.

Julian Assange Tells Hannity Absolutely
All DNC Info Came From Their Source 1/2/17
(Published on Jan 2, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75nJ1VzDX8Y
When asked if WikiLeaks changed the outcome of the election, Assange replied "Who knows, it’s impossible to tell" but, he added, "if it did, the accusation is that the true statements of Hillary Clinton and her campaign manager, John Podesta, and the DNC head Debbie Wasserman Schultz, their true statements is what changed the election.”

Which is correct, however admitting as much would shift the blame away from the "Russians" and back to the failures of the Clinton campaign and the shortcoming of the Democrats, and the whole point of this scapegoating campaign is precisely the opposite.

As the Hill adds (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/312431-wikileaks-founder-obama-admin-trying-to-delegitimize-trump), Assange said there's an "obvious" reason the Obama administration has focused on Russia's alleged role in Democratic hacks leading up to Donald Trump's electoral win.

“They’re trying to delegitimize the Trump administration as it goes into the White House.”

He then added that "our publications had wide uptake by the American people, they’re all true,” Assange continued. “But that’s not the allegation that’s being presented by the Obama White House.”

However, as we said previously, since at the end of the day it is Assange's word - unless Wikileaks does actually reveal its source, which would be professional suicide - against the word of Obama and 17 agenices who back him up, despite still having provided no actual evidence in the ongoing, and quite bizarre attempt to force a deterioration of US-Russian relations in the final days of the Obama administration, just so Trump can inherit a complete diplomatic mess and make closer relations with Putin more complicated, this latest interview with Assange will likewise resolve absolutely nothing.

SOURCE (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-02/assange-hannity-our-source-not-russian-government)

jaybee

3rd January 2017, 10:59

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I want to take the opportunity to thank you for this thread, turiya, and all the info you've presented -

I take a look at the forum every day and always come to this thread to see about any developments about Trump and anything connected - it's been such an interesting period of time with the build up to the US election then the election itself and now the transition to the Trump Presidency - and all the Obama drama with him and his dangerous warmongering towards Russia - and the count down to the inauguration, the disbelief of the Clinton supporters at the result and their undignified behavior refusing to accept the democratic decision -

could it all BE any more dramatic and fascinating - first Brexit then Trump -

Although I'm not American I supported Trump to win and think Clinton would have been a huge threat to World Peace with her open aggression towards Russia - the way the MSM was churning out negative propaganda towards Trump (and still are when they get half a chance and have also turned their full attention to anti Putin and anti Russia propaganda as well and linking the 2 psyops) .... it was and is unbelievably annoying and insulting -

So there we were during the build up to the Presidential election - me and my friend watching the news together every day and when he came round one of us would always say ....'what's our Trumpy been up to today?'.... :)

we were a tiny tiny little outpost of Trump support in England lol - politics is politics and there can be all sorts of twists and turns but it feels like we dodged a bullet when Clinton was put in her place and defeated by US voters -

also - I want to thank Cidersomerset for all contributions over the whole forum - if I want to learn more about breaking news etc etc --- I know that Cidersomerset will wring out every last bit of info from every angle and present it to us all - so cheers for that -

Happy New Year to you both and everyone else - :thumb:

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Cidersomerset

3rd January 2017, 15:04

Assange insists Russia not linked to election hacks

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Published on 3 Jan 2017
WikiLeaks founder sits down with Sean Hannity

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Tucker Carlson: Julian Assange has no reason to lie

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Published on 3 Jan 2017

Host of 'Tucker Carlson Tonight' reacts on 'Fox & Friends' to Sean's Hannity's
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Trump promises new information on Russian hacking

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Published on 3 Jan 2017
Peter Doocy reports from New York

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Trump's doubts on Russia hacking: Does he have a point?

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Published on 3 Jan 2017
The president-elect continues to express doubt over suspected Russian hacking and
whether it impacted the election. Will anything in the Russian hacking investigation
ever be declassified? #Tucker

turiya

3rd January 2017, 15:21

Thanks, jaybee, the whole thing fascinates me as well. Its amazing to be able to witness this incredible power shift / displacement that is presently taking place.

A few Trump Tweets to start the day...

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/TRUMP_TWEETS/TRUMP_TWITTER_ICON_4.png (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/816260343391514624)
General Motors is sending
Mexican made model of Chevy Cruze
to U.S. car dealers-tax free across border.
Make in U.S.A.or pay big border tax!

4:30 AM - 3 Jan 2017

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/816260343391514624)

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People must remember that ObamaCare
just doesn't work, and it is not affordable -
116% increases (Arizona).
Bill Clinton called it "CRAZY"

4:46 AM - 3 Jan 2017

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/816264484629184513)

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http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/TRUMP_TWEETS/TRUMP_TWITTER_ICON_4.png (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/816265668958031872)
The Democrat Governor.of Minnesota said
"The Affordable Care Act (ObamaCare) is
no longer affordable!" - And, it is lousy healthcare.

4:51 AM - 3 Jan 2017

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/816265668958031872)

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With all that Congress has to work on,
do they really have to make the weakening
of the Independent Ethics Watchdog, as unfair as it

7:03 AM - 3 Jan 2017

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/816298944456232960)

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........may be, their number one act and priority.
Focus on tax reform, healthcare and
so many other things of
far greater importance! #DTS

7:07 AM - 3 Jan 2017

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/816300003442495488)

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turiya

3rd January 2017, 15:34

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GM Responds To Trump:
"You're Wrong" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-03/gm-responds-trump-youre-wrong)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Jan 3, 2017 8:58 AM
In a terse and non-deferential response to president-elect Trump's tweet, GM has responded with a statement which can be summarized in two words: "you're wrong."

Following Trump's tweet...
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General Motors is sending
Mexican made model of Chevy Cruze
to U.S. car dealers-tax free across border.
Make in U.S.A.or pay big border tax!

4:30 AM - 3 Jan 2017

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/816260343391514624)

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... GM responded (http://media.gm.com/Pages/news/us/en/2017/jan/0103-cruze.html) with its version of the facts, according to which all Cruze sedans are built in the US, while the Mexican-produced Chevy Cruze hatchback is built for global markets, "with a small number sold in the US"

- General Motors manufacturers the Chevrolet Cruze sedan in Lordstown, Ohio.

- All Chevrolet Cruze sedans sold in the U.S. are built in GM’s assembly plant in Lordstown, Ohio.

- GM builds the Chevrolet Cruze hatchback for global markets in Mexico, with a small number sold in the U.S.

Now we await Trump's counter response.

SOURCE (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-03/gm-responds-trump-youre-wrong)

Cidersomerset

3rd January 2017, 16:05

There is definitely a Soros agenda going on here , it will be interesting
what pressure they put on him and whether Trump heeds their advise/
agendas or stalls and waits until his own military experts have a proper
assessment of what is going on....

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Debate over what intel to reveal in Russian hacking probe

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Published on 3 Jan 2017

Chief intelligence correspondent Catherine Herridge reports from Washington

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Kellyanne Conway on Congressional Ethics Change, GOP 'Mandate'

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Published on 3 Jan 2017

Donald Trump's senior adviser tells "GMA" Republicans have a "mandate" to make
"significant change" and discusses what's expected from Trump's planned
announcement about alleged Russian hacking.

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Trump: North Korea Nuclear Weapon 'Won't Happen'

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Published on 3 Jan 2017
Donald Trump tweeted Monday night that North Korea will not be able to develop a
nuclear weapon that is capable of reaching the United States, saying "It won't happen!"

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Can North Korea's nuclear program be stopped?

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Published on 3 Jan 2017
Kristie Lu Stout speaks with nuclear and security expert Tong Zhao about North
Korea's new threats and whether sanctions will really make a difference

Cidersomerset

3rd January 2017, 16:32

This is just to cheer you up anything is possible under Trump administration.....:shielddeflect:

This is good report I just came across...........2 yr old Super kid , but a cautionary tale....:moil:

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3 January 2-17

Longer version shows Bodie taking a bit longer to free his brother....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4wfgnFfffg

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That's a coincidence I just got around to the BBC web page and there is not
much happening except another baby story....LOL

Duchess of Cambridge honoured by Royal Photographic Society

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George and Charlotte

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38494382

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Trump criticises new Republican Congress over ethics vote

20 minutes ago
From the section US & Canada

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The move was initiated by Congressman Bob Goodlatte (left)

President-elect Donald Trump has criticised Republicans who have voted to gut the
independent body that investigates congressional misconduct.

Republicans voted in secret to close the Office of Congressional Ethics, against the
advice of party leaders.

"Focus on tax reform, healthcare and so many other things of far greater
importance!" Mr Trump said in a tweet.

Mr Trump made cleaning up corruption in Washington a key theme of his campaign.

He ended his tweet with "#DTS", which is an acronym for "drain the swamp", one
of his campaign slogans.

Read More......

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38499284

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Laura Ingraham reacts to Trump's new crop of policy tweets

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Published on 3 Jan 2017
Fox News contributor weighs in on 'Fox & Friends'

Cidersomerset

3rd January 2017, 17:37

This is interesting when you consider how close MI6 and CIA are , and ties
in with The Donalds remarks about using a courier for secure messaging.....:ranger:..:spy::spy:

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Ex-MI6 boss warns over electronic voting risk

The former head of MI6 has warned against adopting electronic
voting systems owing to fears about international cyber warfare.

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Sir John Sawers told the BBC that casting a ballot with pencil
and paper was "actually much more secure".

He warned: "The more things that go online, the more susceptible
you are to cyber attacks."

But campaigners for electronic voting said there was "no evidence"
it was more open to fraud.

Electronic voting allows people to make their choices via a computer
or smartphone, instead of people having to go to a polling station.

Read more.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38408296

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Ford says it is creating new jobs in the US

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Gene Marks reacts to the announcement, early Dow rally losing steam

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Ford Announces Plan To Create 700 New US Jobs In Michigan | NBC News

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Published on 3 Jan 2017
Ford CEO Mark Field announces the auto company is canceling plans to build a new
plant in Mexico, and it will invest $700 million in Michigan instead, creating 700
new U.S. jobs.

Cidersomerset

3rd January 2017, 18:28

Trump: Better things to do than to weaken ethics watchdog

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Published on 3 Jan 2017
In a tweet, President-elect Donald Trump wrote that there are more important
issues for the House to tackle than to weaken Congress' ethics panel.

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House Republicans reverse plan to strip power from ethics watchdog

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Published on 3 Jan 2017

Under fire from both Democrats and President-elect Donald Trump, House Republicans held
an emergency meeting where they reversed course on a rule change, leaving the Office of
Congressional Ethics as an independent watchdog. CBS Radio News' Steve Dorsey reports.

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New Republican Congress reverses ethics move after outcry

Republicans are to drop a plan to gut the independent body that investigates
political misconduct, after an outcry.President-elect Donald Trump had criticised
Republicans after they voted to strip the Office of Congressional Ethics of its
independence.

"Focus on tax reform, healthcare and so many other things of far greater
importance!" Mr Trump said in a tweet.

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Judge Napolitano on debate over congressional ethics office

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Published on 3 Jan 2017
House Republicans withdraw plans to strip power from independent ethics
watchdog office

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Raw: Biden Swears In Senate of 115th Congress

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Published on 3 Jan 2017
Vice President Joe Biden conducted the formal swearing in of 34 Senators of the
115th Congress on Tuesday. (Jan. 3

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Paul Ryan: 'We are all united'

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Published on 3 Jan 2017
Representative Paul Ryan addressed the US House of Representatives after he was
re-elected as Speaker of the House of the 115th Congress.

Cidersomerset

3rd January 2017, 18:41

This is a good compilation , not sure who put it together ? its recent Fox clips....

Hannity Destroys Russian Hacking Hoax! Interview
Assange London! Napolitano Confirms Everything!

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Published on 3 Jan 2017

Trump and Hannity are good friends. You can bet that whatever Hannity knows, Trump knows.
Also, judge Napolitano has known Trump for many years and owns a property that Trump manages.
Napolitano has been perhaps the most credible voice for Freedom and Natural Law for the past
20 -30 years. It would not surprise me if Trump may have something to do with Hannity flying to
London to interview Assange! Assange hates Hillary with a passion and he is the only person in the
world that knows how the emails were leaked! Napolitano, Hannity, Assange are all of the opinion
that Russia had nothing to do with the hacking and it very well may have been done by the NSA or
FBI. Trump knows exactly what is going on and he will not be intimidated by anyone at the point!
Not only has the Media lost all credibility, the intel agencies and members of Congress are lost as well.

Cidersomerset

3rd January 2017, 20:07

Many in the mainstream are reluctant to believe Assange , but why are
they not doing the same as Wiki ? ....Because they have been bought
out and controlled for decades ......

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Questions over Juilian Assange's claims

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Published on 3 Jan 2017

Bias Bash: Ellen Ratner on why the media should be taking claims by Julian Assange
that Russia did not leak DNC documents more seriously

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This is how the 'old guard' media spokespersons spin and span there way
thru their administrations for years .....

Former White House Press Staff Imagine Changes To Presidential
Coverage | Meet The Press | NBC News

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Published on 3 Jan 2017
Nicolle Wallace, Ari Fleischer and Joe Lockhart have each worked at the White
House serving as the hinge between the President and the Press. Chuck sat
down with them to talk about how the Trump Administration might be different.

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Obamas top Press spokesperson and spin doctor says..........

US '100% certain' about Russian election role

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"The information is there, and it's rock solid," says State Department Spokesman
John Kirby. "So, yes, we are a hundred percent certain."

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RNC Communications Director Sean Spicer On MSNBC's 'Morning Joe'

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Published on 2 Jan 2017
RNC Communications Director Sean Spicer On MSNBC's 'Morning Joe' (January 2, 2017)

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4th January 2017, 03:39

turiya

4th January 2017, 03:58

Chester

4th January 2017, 04:17

turiya

4th January 2017, 06:08

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Can Trump Fix The Economy In 2017? (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/01/03/can-trump-fix-the-economy-in-2017-paul-craig-roberts/)
— Paul Craig Roberts
January 3, 2017 | Categories: Articles & Columns

In the West Junk Information And Junk Judgment Prevail
Paul Craig Roberts

The Western world and that part of the world that partakes of Western explanations live in a fictional world. We see this everywhere we look—in the alleged machinations of Russia to elect Donald Trump president of the US, in claims that Saddam Hussein and his (nonexistent) weapons of mass destruction were a threat to the United States (a mushroom cloud over American cities), that Assad of Syria used chemical weapons against his own people, that Iran has a nuclear weapons program, that a few Saudi Arabians outwitted the entirety of the US, EU, and Israeli intelligence services and delivered the greatest humiliation to the “world’s only superpower” in the history of mankind, that Russia invaded Ukraine and could at any moment invade the Baltics and Poland, that the US rate of unemployment is 4.6%, that China’s trade surplus with the US is due to Chinese currency manipulation, and so on and on.

Allegedly we live in a scientific era of information, but what good can come from faulty orchestrated information? As long as fake news delivered by presstitutes serves powerful private and governmental interests, how can we know the truth about anything?

For example, consider the claim found everywhere in US government and US media statements that the massive US trade deficit with China is the result of Chinese currency manipulation, keeping the yuan underpriced relative to the US dollar.

This false claim, which is widely accepted as truth even by Russian writers on Russian websites (http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/12/12/only-one-step-away-from-global-trade-war.html) is nonsense. China’s currency is pegged to the US dollar. It moves with the dollar. China pegged its currency to the US dollar in order to create confidence in the Chinese currency. Over the past decade China has adjusted the peg of its currency to the dollar and permitted a rise in the value of the Chinese currency from 8.1 yuan to 6.9 yuan to the US dollar. (The yuan reached a strength of 6 to the dollar, but a rising dollar was pulling up the yuan, causing China to widen the float in order to avoid undue appreciation because of the US dollar’s rise to other Asian and European currencies.) How is a rising yuan “currency manipulation”? Don’t expect an answer from the presstitute financial media or the junk economists who comprise the neoliberal economics profession.

The function of the myth of Chinese currency manipulation is to hide from view the fact that the massive US trade deficit with China is due to US corporations offshoring their production for US markets to China. When US corporations bring goods and services produced offshore back to the US for sale, they enter as imports, thus swelling the trade deficit. The myth about currency manipulation shifts the blame from US corporations to China, while in fact it is the return of offshored production, such as Apple computers, for sale to Americans that swells the US trade deficit.

US corporations produce offshore because the much lower labor costs result in higher profits, higher stock prices for shareholders, and in performance bonuses for executives. One of the main causes for the high Dow Jones averages and the worsened income and wealth distribution in the US is the offshoring of jobs. In 2016 the richest people added $237 billion to their wealth, while the rise in student loan, auto loan, and credit card debt combined with stagnant or declining income left ordinary Americans poorer. During the 21st century, household indebtedness has risen from about 70% of GDP to about 80%. Personal income has not risen in keeping with personal debt.

The offshoring of jobs benefits only a small number of shareholders and executives, and it imposes massive external costs on American society. Former prosperous manufacturing states are in long term depression. Median real family incomes have fallen. Real estate values in abandoned manufacturing areas have fallen. The tax base has eroded. State and local government pension systems cannot meet their obligations. The social safety net is unraveling.

To get an idea of the external costs that offshoring imposes on the American population, go online and look at the pictures of decrepit Detroit, formerly an industrial powerhouse. Schools and libraries are abandoned. Public buildings are abandoned. Factories are abandoned. Homes are abandoned. Churches are abandoned. Here is one 4 minute video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcTYqnL2Bgw

And it is not only Detroit. In my book, The Failure of Laissez Faire Capitalism (https://www.amazon.com/Failure-Laissez-Capitalism-Economic-Dissolution-ebook/dp/B00BLPJNWE) (Clarity Press, 2013), I report the 2010 US Census data. The population of Detroit, formerly America’s fourth largest city, declined by 25 percent in the first decade of the 21st century. Gary, Indiana, lost 22 percent of its population. Flint, Michigan, lost 18 percent. Cleveland, Ohio lost 17 percent. Pittsburg, Pennsylvania lost 7 percent. South Bend lost 6 percent. Rochester, New York, lost 4 percent. St. Louis, Missouri, lost 20 percent. these cities were once the home of American manufacturing and industrial might.

Instead of telling the truth, the presstitute financial media and the corrupt US economics profession have hidden the massive social and external costs of jobs offshoring under the totally false claim that offshoring is good for the economy. In my book, I take to task corporate shills such as Dartmouth’s Matthew Slaughter and Harvard’s Michael Porter, who produced through incompetence or complicity erroneous reports of the great benefits to Americans of having their jobs given to Chinese and American cities left in ruins.

Throughout its history the US has suffered from public lies, but not until the Clinton, George W. Bush, and Obama regimes did lies become so ubiquitous that truth disappeared.

Consider the November jobs report. We were told that the unemployment rate has fallen to 4.6% and that 178,000 new US jobs were created in November. The recovery is on course, etc.

But what are the real facts?

The unemployment rate does not include discouraged workers who have been unable to find employment and have ceased job hunting, which is expensive, exhausting and demoralizing. In other words, unemployed people are being pushed into the discouraged category faster than they can find jobs. That is the explanation for the low official unemployment rate. Moreover, this reported low rate of unemployment is inconsistent with the declining labor force participation rate. When jobs are available, people enter the work force in order to take advantage of the employment opportunities, and the labor force participation rate rises.

The reporting by the financial presstitutes adds to the deception. We are given the number of 178,000 new jobs in November. And that is it. However, the data released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics shows many problematic aspects of the data. For example, only 9,000 of the claimed 178,000 jobs are full time jobs (defined as 35 hours or more per week). October saw a loss of 103,000 full time jobs from September, and September had 5,000 fewer full time jobs than August. No one explains how an economy losing full time jobs is in recovery.

The age distribution of the November new jobs is disturbing. 77,000 of the jobs went to those 55 and over. Only 4,000 jobs went to the household forming ages of 25-34.

The marital status distribution of the jobs is also troubling. In November there were 95,000 fewer employed married men with spouse present and 74,000 fewer employed married women with spouse present than in October. In October there were 331,000 fewer married men and 87,000 fewer married women employed than in September.

One can conclude from these large differences month to month that the official statistics are not good, which might well be the case. For example, as I have stressed in my reports on the monthly payroll employment releases, there is always a large number of new jobs for waitresses and bartenders. Yet restaurant traffic has declined for 9 consecutive months. Why do restaurants hire more employees as traffic declines?

As John Williams (shadowstats.com) has informed us, the monthly payroll jobs claims might consist entirely of add-ons from estimates from a flawed birth/death model and manipulations of seasonal adjustments. In other words, the reported new jobs might only be statistical illusions.

John Williams also emphasizes that the claimed real GDP growth numbers might be entirely the products of the under-measurement of inflation. Some years ago the inflation measures were “reformed” in order to cheat those on Social Security out of cost-of-living adjustments. In place of a weighted index that calculated the cost of a constant standard of living, substitution was introduced. In the reformed index, if the price of an item in the index rises, a lower-priced item is substituted in its place, thus negating the inflationary impact of the price rise. Also, price rises are defined away as “quality improvements.” Clearly, this is an index designed to under report rising prices.

The bottom line is that the recovery allegedly underway since June 2009 might be a statistical illusion produced by a flawed measure of inflation.

What can Americans expect from the economy in 2017? First, some perspective. The defeat of stagflation by President Reagans supply-side policy gave the Clinton regime a good economy. The improved US economy was not entirely a good thing, because it masked the adverse consequences of jobs offshoring that began in earnest after the Soviet collapse in 1991.

The Soviet collapse encouraged the change in attitude of the Indian and Chinese governments toward foreign capital. Wall Street and big box retailers such as Walmart forced the relocation of much of US manufacturing to China, to be followed after the rise of the high speed Internet by offshoring professional skill jobs such as software engineering to India. These relocations of US economic activity to foreign locations hollowed out the US economy and reduced the job opportunities for Americans.

The growth of real median family income ceased. Without increases in consumer spending to drive the economy, the Federal Reserve substituted a growth in consumer debt for the missing growth in real median family income. But the growth of consumer debt is limited by the lack of growth in consumer income. Thus, an economy dependent on debt expansion is limited in its ability to expand. Unlike the federal government, the American people cannot print money with which to pay their bills.

Alone among those contending for political office, president-elect Trump has fingered jobs offshoring as a blow to the American people and the US economy. It remains to be seen what he can do about it, as jobs offshoring serves the interests of the global corporations and their shareholders.

For many years now the monthly payroll jobs reports show the US descending into Third World status, with the vast bulk of the claimed new jobs in lowly paid, non-tradeable domestic services. The BLS 10-year job projections show few new jobs that require a university degree. If high value-added, high productivity middle class jobs cannot be brought back to the US, the American economic future is one of continuing decline into Third World status.

Considering the constraints on the consumer, a large share of corporate profits has come from labor cost savings from jobs offshoring. For corporations such as Apple, whose products are almost entirely produced in Chinese factories, there are no more profits to be secured from jobs offshoring. To keep the profits flowing, Apple plans to replace the inexpensive Chinese labor with robots, which do not have to be paid any wage. What better shows the disconnect between capital and labor than to robotize Chinese factories in the face of an excess supply of labor?

Paul Samuelson’s economic textbook taught the fallacy of composition, what is good for the individual might not be good for the group. The Keynesian economists applied this to savings. Saving is good for the individual, but if aggregate saving exceeds investment, aggregate demand falls, pulling down income, employment, and saving.

This is the case with jobs offshoring. It can increase profits for the firm, but in the aggregate it decreases aggregate income of the population and limits sales growth. What jobs offshoring does in this respect will be done in spades by robotics.

When I read economists and financial presstitutes glorifying the cost savings of robotics, I wonder where their mind is or if they have one. Robots don’t purchase housing, home furnishings and appliances, cars, food, clothing, vacations, entertainment. When robots have the jobs, where do humans get the incomes with which to purchase the products produced by robots?

This unexamined question has extraordinary implications for property rights and the social organization of society. Ralph Gomory told me a few years ago that a handful of people hold the robotic patents. Therefore, in a robotized world, the distribution of income and wealth would be concentrated in the hands of a few dozen people. Indeed, would there be any income or wealth of any magnitude? The only way humans could survive would be to again become self-sufficient farmers with no monetary income to purchase products made by robots. As few would be able to purchase products made by robots, there would be no source for income and wealth for the patent holders.

I am convinced that if robotics is going to supplant human labor, the patents will have to be socialized, and income distributed on a relatively equal basis throughout society.

So, can Trump fix the economy in 2017?

There can be no fix unless the ladders of upward mobility that made the US an opportunity society can be put back in place. This will require bringing home the offshored middle class jobs or, assuming that new high value-added jobs could somehow be created, preventing the new jobs from being moved offshore.

There is a way to do this: Base the corporate tax rate on the geographical location where corporations add value to their product. If corporations add value domestically with US labor, the tax rate would be low. If the value is added abroad, the tax rate would be high. The tax rate can be adjusted to offset the benefits of lower costs abroad.

Despite the progaganda about globalism and free trade, the US economy was built on protection, and its strength was the domestic market. US prosperity was never dependent on exports. And as the US dollar is the world reserve currency, the US doesn’t need exports in order to pay for its imports. This is why the US can tolerate the trade deficits caused by jobs offshoring.

Globalism is a concoction by the neoliberal junk economists in complicity with the big banks, Wall Street, and multinational corporations. Globalism is a disguise for the exploitation of the many in behalf of the few. The alleged benefits of globalism were used to justify the offshoring of jobs and to enrich corporate executives and shareholders.

It is the domestic economy that is important, not the global economy. The suffering population in flyover America finally learned this lesson and elected Trump.

Can Trump script “The Escape From Globalism?”

He could lose the fight. Globalism has been institutionalized. The large corporations that have offshored their production for US markets would oppose moves against jobs offshoring. So would all their shills in the economics profession and financial media. I don’t know the extent to which globalism has taken root in people’s minds in Asia, Africa, and South America, but in Europe—even some in Putin’s Russia—people are brainwashed in the belief that they can’t exit globalism without paying a large economic price.

Consider, for example, the Greeks. For the sake of the balance sheets of a handful of northern European (and perhaps US) banks, the Greek and Portuguese peoples have been forced into extreme austerity, resulting in such high unemployment and plummeting living standards that women have been forced into prostitution in order to survive. This totally unnecessary outcome has occurred because the Greek and Portuguese peoples and governments are so brainwashed that they believe they cannot survive as independent countries without globalism and the entry to globalism provided by EU membership. In the UK 45% of the population suffers from the same misconception.

Globalism is the latest technique by which capitalism loots and destroys. In the Western world it is the working and middle classes that are looted of their jobs and careers. In Asia, Africa, and Latin America self-sufficient farming communities are looted of their land and forced into monoculture as laborers who produce an export crop. Countries formerly self-sufficient in food become dependent on food imports, and their currency, which carries that burden, is subject to endless speculation and manipulation.

Was it universal ignorance or bribes that compelled governments everywhere
to ransome their populations to globalism?

Frontline journalists, such as Chris Hedges, who have seen and reported a lot, have concluded that the fate of the world is in such few hands that act only in their narrow self-interests that only revolution can correct the imbalance between the interest of a handful of oligarchs and the mass of humanity. Hedges’ position is not an easy one with which to argue.

Trump descending into the snakepit that is Washington, D.C., needs to remember what happened to President Jimmy Carter. In fact, the best thing Trump can do for his presidency is to go spend some time with Carter prior to taking office.

Carter was an outsider, a principled person, and the Washington establishment did not want him. They reduced his effectiveness by framing up his budget director and chief of staff. The same thing can happen to Trump, assuming he is able to get his appointees confirmed by the Senate, members of which are allied with the CIA against Trump.

Reaganites had a similar experience in the Reagan adminisration. Reagan had political experience as governor of California, the largest state, but he was an outsider to the Republican establishment, whose candidate for the presidential nomination was George H.W. Bush.

Reagan defeated Bush for the nomination, but was advised by Republicans, who remembered the Goldwater wipeout when the Rockefeller forces turned on Goldwater for not choosing the defeated Rockefeller as his VP running mate, costing Goldwater the election, to select Bush as VP. Otherwise, Reagan would find himself, like Goldwater, running against both the Democratic and Republican establishments.

Reagan’s first term took place with George H.W. Bush’s main operative as chief of staff of the White House. This confronted me with problems as Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy where I was the point man for Reagan’s supply-side economic policy.

Both political party establishments are more interested in controlling the party than in doing well for the country. During President Carter’s four years, the main concern of the Democratic establishment was in regaining control of the party from the forces that had sent an outsider to the White House. During Reagan’s eight years, the main concern of the Republican establishment was in regaining control of the Republican party from Reaganites.

It is likely that Trump will now experience in spades what presidents Carter and Reagan experienced. The effort will be made to force him into compromises and to neuter his agenda. Ironically, this determined attack on Trump is being aided by the leftwing, progressive forces that stand to gain by Trump’s standing up for the working and middle classes and for peace with Russia. Many of the liberal, progressive, leftwing websites are already soliciting donations in order to fight against Trump.

So, even when we get a president who might try to represent the interests of the American people, those who claim to speak in behalf of the people join in the oligarchs’ attack on Trump. The left side of the spectrum seems always, like the extreme rightwing side, to defer to their hatreds: Trump is a billionaire = hatred. Trump appointed an energy magnate = hatred. Trump appointed two 3-star generals = warmonger and more hatred.

The liberal, progressive, leftwing cannot get beyond their bogeymen. Of course, they might be correct. However, as I have emphasized, Trump has chosen mavericks who have gone against the establishment. Moreover, these are strong men, like Trump, which is what it takes to bring change from above. The Exxon CEO wants energy deals, not war, with Russia. Gen. Flynn is the one who exposed on TV Obama’s use of ISIS to overthrow Syria against the recommendation of the Defense Intelligence Agency. Gen. Mattis is the one who challenged the effectiveness of torture.

Trump’s main appointments are people who have challenged the Establishment. The usual assortment of establishment-approved appointees cannot bring change to Washington.

The liberal, progressive, left-wing should be happy at the prospect of a government on the outs with the Establishment. Instead, the liberal, progressive, left has aligned with the Establishment in opposition to Trump.

Every day I receive a half dozen requests for donations to “help us fight Donald Trump.” What are these people thinking? Why do they want to fight someone that the entire US political establishment opposes? What they should first try is to gain Trump’s confidence and win him to their agenda, as General Mattis did.

I cannot assure you that Trump is not another fake like Obama. But it is a mistake to begin with this assumption. Why write off in advance the only person with the courage to put his life on the line and take on the corrupt and evil Washington establishment?

Why help the Establshment defeat Trump? If Trump sells out Americans, we can turn on him then, or we can decide whether Chris Hedges is correct that only revolution can rectify the situation.

Paul Craig Roberts (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/01/03/can-trump-fix-the-economy-in-2017-paul-craig-roberts/)

norman

4th January 2017, 06:09

Cidersomerset

4th January 2017, 06:45

Assange addresses the FBI, DHS report on Russian hacking

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Published on 3 Jan 2017

On 'Hannity,' WikiLeaks founder says nothing in the
report says that any information was given to them

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Julian Assange: Media coverage in America is very dishonest

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Published on 3 Jan 2017
On 'Hannity,' the WikiLeaks founder says his agenda is to expose the truth

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This is classic CIA NN ...spin and ....BS .....Digging up a former advisor for 'blurry articles'.....

Former adviser: Putin euphoric over Trump win

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Published on 3 Jan 2017
A former aide to Vladimir Putin says the Russian president was pleased with Donald
Trump's victory in the 2016 election and that he expects the United States to have
a more favorable view of Russia going forward. CNN's Frederik Pleitgen reports.

Cidersomerset

4th January 2017, 07:25

Dr. Steve Pieczenik lays out the situation as he see's it..........Sorting out the
CIA/neo-con agenda from collusion in 9/11 and the creation of Obama as a
intel created puppet and much more....

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CIA Black Ops Commander: The American Republic Has Been Restored

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Published on 3 Jan 2017

Alex Jones talks with former black ops commander Dr. Steve Pieczenik
about how Donald Trump is already restoring the American republic.

ponda

4th January 2017, 10:10

Cidersomerset

4th January 2017, 12:45

Assange and Hannity interview just out

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Published on Jan 3, 2017

Tonight we were presented with the one-on-one interview between Sean Hannity and
WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange. In the first segment that Hannity showed, Assange
stated that Russia was not involved in providing WikiLeaks with the hacked emails from
the DNC or John Podesta, and neither was a state party. Assange, who is confined to
the Ecuadorean embassy in London due to a warrant for sexual assault in Sweden, was
asked if President Barack Obama was lying when claiming Rushuaans were behind the
hacks since Assange is saying Rushua wasn’t involved. “Well, he is acting like a lawyer,
” he noted. “If you look at most of his statements he doesn’t say that. He doesn’t say
WikiLeaks obtained its information from Rushua, worked with Rushua.” Later on, when
describing why Obama had a dramatic response to Rushua via sanctions, Assange says
he is “trying to delegitimize the Trump Administration as it goes into the White House.
”Hannity Julian Assange FULL Interview 1/3/17. Sean Hannity gave us a preview of his
revealing exclusive interview with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, which will air on
Fox News Channel tonight at 10pm ET. Assange spoke for about 90 minutes at the
Ecuadorian embassy in London, where he has remained for four-and-a-half years
under threat of arrest. Hannity said they discussed "the state of journalism" in the
United States and what was not covered by the media when it came to the contents
of the hacked emails.

Cidersomerset

4th January 2017, 13:30

CIA NN does not like the truth....." Ridiculous interview " says one of the pundits...

WikiLeaks' Assange: Russia didn't give us emails

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Published on 4 Jan 2017

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has repeated his claim that the Russian government was
not the source of the emails hacked from the DNC and Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta.

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Its hilarious how CIA NN hates Trump.....

Trump makes fun of US intelligence on Russian hack

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Published on 4 Jan 2017
President-elect Donald Trump took to Twitter to deride the US intelligence agencies
due to brief him on the alleged Russian hacking of the Democratic National
Committee.

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Most of the debate in the UK has been anti Trump and the media/political/activist
class have fallen hook , line and sinker for the Democratic and CIA NN and US
mainstream news/media. Saying that there are a lot of the public and figures
like Nigal Farage who see it differently. This clip sums up many of the debates
but listen to the speaker at the end who is American and puts Trump into
perspective...The first speaker is fine as well, ( I have not watched the full debate)

'Trump is just an idiot!' What will President Trump be like? DEBATE - BBC Newsnight

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Cidersomerset

4th January 2017, 16:04

This is a fun video and shows how odd 2016 was and Nigals , Donalds
spontaneous meeting ......Also a good discussion..

Nigel Farage Daily Telegraph Exclusive December 2016

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Published on 29 Dec 2016

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Donald Trump backs Julian Assange over Russia hacking claim

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Donald Trump has backed Wikileaks founder Julian Assange in casting doubt on
intelligence alleging Russian meddling in the US election.Mr Assange said Russia
was not the source for the site's mass leak of emails from the Democratic Party.
Mr Trump has now backed that view in a tweet. He wrote: "Assange... said
Russians did not give him the info!"

The president-elect has repeatedly refused to accept the conclusions of the US
intelligence community.Several US agencies including the FBI and the CIA believe
Russia directed hacks against the Democratic Party and the campaign of its
presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.The information, released through Wikileaks
and other outlets, was intended to help Mr Trump win the election, say the FBI and
CIA.On Tuesday evening, Mr Trump said an intelligence briefing he was due to
receive on the issue had been delayed.

Read More...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38505398

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WikiLeaks ‘source is not Russian government and it is not a state party’ – Assange

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Published on 4 Jan 2017
Neither the Russian government nor “a state party” was the source of hacked
emails from the Democratic National Committee (DNC), WikiLeaks founder Julian
Assange stated in an exclusive interview with Fox News.

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Mainstream in a panic....

President-elect Trump disputes U.S. intelligence agencies

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Published on 4 Jan 2017
President-elect Donald Trump continues to dispute findings by the CIA and FBI that
Russia meddled in the U.S. presidential campaign. CBSN security consultant Ron
Hosko breaks down Trump's struggle with the U.S. intelligence community.

turiya

4th January 2017, 16:40

Gordon Duff, of all people, says he's currently working for the Trump transition team, to help sort out his worrying and illogical foreign policy outlook. He's no great Trump fan and says some brutal things about the incoming President elect's problems to get sorted.

[ Rense show interview ]

MP3 file to play or download here:

https://app.box.com/s/yeuvcr8dnoyff4hn784tdep1wl4qlb4i

Thanks norman - I really can't believe that Gordon Duff is on Trump's Transition Team. No way. I mean, I use to appreciate what he offers, but then there's been times when he self-admits to either telling absolute BS, says what people want to hear, or says what is going on just to rile people up. Its gotta be a bunch of BS. He's been a Hillary Clinton supporter from the get-go. Promoting her throughout the election process. He's incessantly & continually tried to paint Trump in many ways with a negative light. Ties w/ the Russian mafia... is just one aspect.

In this video, Gordon Duff claims Trump is a pathological liar & a scum bag, and has Saudi agents working for him. John Kerry has been a great Secretary of State, and would have made a great president. Clinton is the most qualified & an outstanding candidate for president. Clinton Foundation is outstanding, whereas the Trump Foundation is utterly corrupt & is getting miliions & millions of dollars from human traffickers.

So, I seriously doubt that he has got a position on the Trump Team...
Makes one wonder just WHO? the real pathological liar is, here...

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In the following vid @ 3:30, Stew Webb claims that Veterans Today is
a CIA operation run by Gordon Duff, a.k.a. Bob Foote.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHNLOopOAbU?t=3m30s

Cidersomerset

4th January 2017, 23:15

So, I seriously doubt that he has got a position on the Trump Team...
Makes one wonder just WHO? the real pathological liar is, here...

Gordon Duff showing his colours as a democrat , Kerry and Gore would have
been great Presidents , and he would rather than Hillary then Trump. Sounds like
he been listening to CIA NN's operatives by the sound of it, well he's entitled
to his views.....and I agree turiya he's not going to helping Trumps administration.

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‘14-year-old kid’ could have hacked Podesta emails – Assange

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Published on 4 Jan 2017

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange’s recently told Fox News that a teenager could have
hacked John Podesta’s emails, and that Russia was not the source of the leaked emails.

RT America’s Manila Chan is joined by former CIA analyst, Ray McGovern, to unpack
the interview, to discuss President-elect Donald Trump’s public sympathy for Assange,
and the incredible disparity between the mainstream media’s narrative in the US and
all evidence to the contrary.

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Heated hearings on Russia?

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Published on 4 Jan 2017
NYT's Jonathan Martin explains Senators McCain and Graham plan to aggressively
pursue the Russia hacking issue during hearings on Thursday.

Bob

4th January 2017, 23:32

Buddies McCain and Graham all know too well about spending money for the Defense Spending Bill - http://dailysignal.com/2016/05/26/is-it-time-to-increase-defense-spending-mccain-proposal-sparks-debate/

without an enemy to fight, one can't justify having all that money and equipment to be used against another country... Making Russia or some other country the bad boy justifies all that money over 600 billion $ to be divvied up by McCain's and Graham's plans.. Being the Chairman of the Committee (Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman) McCain has his special interests to protect..

http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/mccain-idiots-defense-approps-delay - McCain calls congressional leaders as “idiots” for their decision to pursue a short-term budget plan instead of yearlong appropriations bills, saying the move will harm national security. McCain freaks out, gotta find the "enemies" to defend the spending of so much cash..

McCain and Graham the holy avengers will never back down, but will continue to say "Russia did it".. they have to protect their non-term limited arses..

turiya

4th January 2017, 23:36

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Julian Assange said "a 14 year old
could have hacked Podesta" - why was
DNC so careless? Also said Russians
did not give him the info!

4:22 AM - 4 Jan 2017

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/816620855958601730)

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"@FoxNews: Julian Assange on U.S. media
coverage: “It’s very dishonest.” #Hannity "
More dishonest than anyone knows

5:10 AM - 4 Jan 2017

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/816632793862176769)

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Thank you to Ford for scrapping a new plant in
Mexico and creating 700 new jobs in the U.S.
This is just the beginning - much more to follow

5:19 AM - 4 Jan 2017

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/816635078067490816)

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Somebody hacked the DNC but why did they
not have "hacking defense" like the RNC has
and why have they not responded to the
terrible......

5:27 AM - 4 Jan 2017

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/816637064708030464)

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things they did and said (like giving the questions
to the debate to H). A total double
standard! Media, as usual, gave them a pass.

5:31 AM - 4 Jan 2017

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/816638194468999169)

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Republicans must be careful in that the Dems
own the failed ObamaCare disaster, with its
poor coverage and massive premium
increases......

5:55 AM - 4 Jan 2017

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/816644321768312832)

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like the 116% hike in Arizona. Also,
deductibles are so high that it is practically
useless. Don't let the Schumer clowns out of
this web...

6:01 AM - 4 Jan 2017

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/816645831659061248)

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massive increases of ObamaCare will take
place this year and Dems are to blame for the
mess. It will fall of its own weight - be careful!

6:26 AM - 4 Jan 2017

Titter Link: (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/816652088662958082)

Cidersomerset

4th January 2017, 23:49

Buddies McCain and Graham all know too well about spending money for the Defense Spending Bill - http://dailysignal.com/2016/05/26/is...sparks-debate/

without an enemy to fight, one can't justify having all that money and equipment to be used against another country... Making Russia or some other country the bad boy justifies all that money over 600 billion $ to be divvied up by McCain's and Graham's plans.. Being the Chairman of the Committee (Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman) McCain has his special interests to protect..

http://www.militarytimes.com/article...-approps-delay - McCain calls congressional leaders as “idiots” for their decision to pursue a short-term budget plan instead of yearlong appropriations bills, saying the move will harm national security. McCain freaks out, gotta find the "enemies" to defend the spending of so much cash..

McCain and Graham the holy avengers will never back down, but will continue to say "Russia did it".. they have to protect their non-term limited arses..

Exactly Bob I posted a couple posts on Targe T thread .....A lot of these threads are connected.

I think I posted them getting their medals earlier on this thread ?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95271-Obama-s-final-act.....-US-sends-special-forces-to-RUSSIAN-BORDER&p=1124853&viewfull=1#post1124853

Two Neo - Con stooges....

Ukraine: Poroshenko awards Orders of Ukraine to US Senators McCain and Graham

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Published on 30 Dec 2016
President Petro Poroshenko presented US Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham
with the Order of Freedom and the Order of Prince Yaroslav the Wise respectively,
ahead of a US delegation meeting in Kiev on Friday.

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' Ominous threat ? or just rhetoric ? I doubt if many in the US media saw this...

Sen. McCain to Putin: We will defeat you in 2017

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Published on 2 Jan 2017

Remarks by Sen. John McCain, Mariupol, Donets'k, Ukraine, 31 December 2016
(Виступ Джона Маккейна у Маріюпіль, Донецьк, Україна, 31 грудня 2016)

- In 2017 we will defeat the invaders and send them back to where they came
from. And to Vladimir Putin. You will never defeat the Ukrainian people and deprive
them of their independence and freedom. And thank all you for your service. I send
the message from the American people. We are with you. You fight is our fight and
we will win together.

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Actually I was wrong they have been on US media.....Waldorf and
Statler on their ' War Hawk ' Baltic tour......They are neo/con proxy muppets ...

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They are talking about retaliation and utter B.S......
Mc Cain on Putin " He's a thug a bully and threat to the NWO "

The title on the vid is sarcasm....
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Published on 1 Jan 2017

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CIA NN ...Still stirring.......John Brennan and co must have fabricated something by
now...They do have previous dodgy dossiers , Obamas Birth certificate etc....

Trump escalates battle with intel community

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Published on 4 Jan 2017

President-elect Donald Trump will soon meet with US intelligence agencies to
discuss the allegations of Russian hacking he's been challenging for months. CNN's
Pamela Brown reports.

turiya

5th January 2017, 00:25

They are talking about retaliation and utter B.S......
Mc Cain on Putin " He's a thug a bully and threat to the NWO "

The title on the vid is sarcasm....
4nUPlB7T8Sg

Published on 1 Jan 2017

This is going to be one big battle ahead for Trump...
The neocons are really going to dig into their attempt to keep the Military-Industrial-Complex receiving its huge budget.

It certainly will be interesting to watch how Trump handles these War Hawks...
as Trump is not interested in keeping up these cold war antics w/ Putin...

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Trump Sides With Assange:
"Russians Did Not Give Him The Info" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-04/trump-sides-assange-russians-did-not-give-him-info)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Jan 4, 2017 7:48 AM
Many were wondering what topic Trump would tweet about on Wednesday morning, and the answer was revealed moments ago when the president-elect, instead of sparking another mini vendetta with a US corporation, instead referred to last night's Jullian Assange interview on Fox News.

Taking a stab at the US intelligence services with whom Trump has been engaged in a back and forth over the alleged role of Russia in "hacking the elections, Trump promoted Julian Assange’s claim that Russia was not WikiLeaks' source for stolen documents it released in the lead-up to the presidential election, tweeting "Julian Assange said "a 14 year old could have hacked Podesta" - why was DNC so careless? Also said Russians did not give him the info!"

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Julian Assange said "a 14 year old
could have hacked Podesta" - why was
DNC so careless? Also said Russians
did not give him the info!

4:22 AM - 4 Jan 2017

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Trump was referring to this particular exchange (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-02/assange-hannity-our-source-not-russian-government) between Sean Hannity and the WikiLeaks founder:

HANNITY: Can you say to the American people, unequivocally, that you did not get this information about the DNC, John Podesta's emails, can you tell the American people 1,000 percent that you did not get it from Russia or anybody associated with Russia?

ASSANGE: Yes. We can say, we have said, repeatedly that over the last two months that our source is not the Russian government and it is not a state party... Obama is trying to say that President-elect Trump is not a legitimate president.

As highlighted last night (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-03/jullian-assange-interviewed-sean-hannity-fox-news-live-stream), the 1-hour-long interview also revealed Assange's concerns about his future and his family, when he said that "big powerful actors will try and take revenge" for his revelations:

"I have been detained illegally, without charge for six years, without sunlight, lots of spies everywhere. It's tough... but that's the mission I set myself on. I understand the kind of game that's being played - big powerful actors will try and take revenge...it's a different thing for my family - I have young children, under 10 years old, they didn't sign up for that... and I think that is fundamentally unjust... my family is innocent, they didn't sign up for that fight."

Trump's tweet this morning follows another provocative, intelligence-focused statement from last night, in which the President-elect said that "the "Intelligence" briefing on so-called "Russian hacking" was delayed until Friday, perhaps more time needed to build a case. Very strange!"

We expect more accusations of "treason" to be lobbed at Trump as a result of this morning's tweet, in which the president elect has chosen to side with the Wikileaks founder instead of US intelligence agencies in casting blame on Russia, as confirmed moments ago by The Hill article titled "Trump sides with Assange over intelligence community in tweet" (http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/312613-trump-sides-with-assange-over-intelligence-community-for-headline).

And just to assure of that, Trump tweeted yet another slamming of the US media: "Julian Assange on U.S. media coverage: “It’s very dishonest.” #Hannity " More dishonest than anyone knows"

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"@FoxNews: Julian Assange on U.S. media
coverage: “It’s very dishonest.” #Hannity "
More dishonest than anyone knows

5:10 AM - 4 Jan 2017

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Full Julian Assange / Hannity Interview (https://youtu.be/qaHlN6Jm8X4):

Zero Hedge (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-04/trump-sides-assange-russians-did-not-give-him-info)

Bob

5th January 2017, 00:33

er, what was John Podesta's Password?? wait for it...

"password"

like er, democratic intelligence?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4087092/Assange-says-14-year-old-hacked-Democratic-emails-reveals-John-Podesta-s-password-password.html

Wikileaks founder Julian Assange has said a 14-year-old could have hacked into the emails of Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman.

John Podesta's emails were made public by the whistleblowing website and proved to be a hammer blow to the Democrat's election campaign as she lost out to Trump.

In an interview, Assange revealed the campaign chairman's password was 'password' and that he had responded to phishing emails.

The Wikileaks founder said he was 1,000 percent confident the Russians did not hack the Clinton campaign, adding Barack Obama was 'trying to delegitimize the Trump administration'.

ya definitely the Russians did it..

Assange says a 14-year-old could have hacked Democratic emails as he reveals John Podesta’s password was 'password'

Julian Assange claimed Clinton made no attemot to secure her party's emails
He reiterated claims Russia was not behind hacks during presidential election
Emails stolen from DNC and Clinton's campaign chairman were published online

But Assange said 'source is not Russian government and it is not a state party'

Cidersomerset

5th January 2017, 00:41

This is going to be one big battle ahead for Trump...
The neocons are really going to dig into their attempt to keep the Military-Industrial-Complex receiving its huge budget.

It certainly will be interesting to watch how Trump handles these War Hawks...
as Trump is not interested in keeping up these cold war antics w/ Putin...

Yeah this will be interesting and Steve Pieczenik on Alex Jones earlier
made the point that Tumps military advisors hopefully will buffer him
from direct manipulation from intel sources trying to keep the war agenda
going for the mil ind complex and their own jobs and resources.....

I was watching BBC news channel earlier and a couple of pundits
were reviewing the Assange's interview and they were all so ignorant
and could not believe that anyone would take wiki leaks seriously.
Basically insinuating Trump was stupid. I did shout at the screen ...LOL

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Washington Post's Fake News Threatens Conflict With Russia

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Published on 4 Jan 2017
The Washington Post has been pushing the fake news narrative of Russian
involvement with the 2016 Presidential election and trying to instigate
conflict between the United States and Russia.

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CNN Implicates Julian Assange in Pizzagate : Wikileaks To Sue

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Published on 4 Jan 2017
Infowars reporter David Knight covers the breaking news that Wikileaks is
threatening to sue CNN for being labeled a pedophile in one of their reports.

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All the mainstream news apart from some on Fox , not all cannot understand
why Trump does not believe everything the intel services present.....

Trump slams U.S. intelligence officials

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Published on 4 Jan 2017
President-elect Donald Trump is slamming U.S. intelligence officials amid the
investigation into Russian hacking during the presidential campaign. Trump will
meet with the heads of the FBI, CIA and the Director of National Intelligence on
Friday. Politico White House correspondent Eli Stokols joins CBSN with more.

Bob

5th January 2017, 00:50

the 'Swamp' is being revealed - "Aparecium"

Reveal your selves..

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turiya

5th January 2017, 02:10

The Burning Platform (https://www.theburningplatform.com/)

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A BIASED 2017 FORECAST
(PART TWO) (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/12/12/cnn-reveals-conclusive-evidence-of-russia-hacking-election/)
Posted on January 1, 2017
by JimQ
In Part One (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90590-Transition-into-Trump&p=1124488&viewfull=1#post1124488) of this article I discussed the failure of our brains to think rationally due to our biases and the relentless propaganda flogged by our Deep State ruling class. Viewing the future through the looking glass of the Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=936b87bc9d6f44ddbfeaf95a2c3f7388&creativeASIN=0767900464) keeps you focused on the three catalysts which will drive all events in 2017 and beyond. I’ve addressed my 2017 Debt forecast in Part One (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90590-Transition-into-Trump&p=1124488&viewfull=1#post1124488). Now I will make some guesses about what might happen in 2017 related to Civic Decay and Global Disorder.

Civic Decay Forecast

“Our comforting conviction that the world makes sense rests on a secure foundation: our almost unlimited ability to ignore our ignorance.” – Daniel Kahneman, Thinking, Fast and Slow
(https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0374533555/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=8ffc9c377d8367fe36db638bf565ad84&creativeASIN=0374533555)

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The presidential election and its aftermath tell you everything you need to know about the level of civic decay overtaking this country. The country is as divided as it was after the election of Abraham Lincoln in 1860. There is virtually no common ground between liberals and conservatives. The pure hatred and contempt between the winners and losers in the recent election does not bode well for the country over the next four to eight years.

The social fabric of the country has been torn asunder. The Clinton supporters believe anyone not on their side is deplorable, racist, misogynist, and fans of Hitler. Trump supporters believe anyone not on their side is low IQ, Muslim loving, deceitful, math challenged, and fans of a criminal. The gulf between the two sides is unbridgeable.

Barack Obama, the well-dressed, polished, articulate, empty suit, who has occupied the White House for the last eight years serving as the front man for the Deep State, has done more to destroy race relations and sense of community than any president in history. His divisive rhetoric and actions over the last eight years created the atmosphere for the acrimonious election and the violent protests that followed.

His failure to quell the Soros funded Black Lives Matter terrorist organization has resulted in the slaughter of police across the country. Meanwhile, his hometown of Chicago has seen 800 homicides and over 4,400 shootings in 2016 – with over 90% blacks killing blacks. His legacy is one of complete and utter failure, but his hubris knows no bounds, and he actually believes his eight year reign of error was a resounding success. Facts be damned.

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“A person who has not made peace with his losses is likely to accept gambles that would be unacceptable to him otherwise.” – Daniel Kahneman, Thinking, Fast and Slow (https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0374533555/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=8ffc9c377d8367fe36db638bf565ad84&creativeASIN=0374533555)

Obama fears his legacy will go up in flames. When you govern through executive orders, bypassing Congress, and flaunting the Constitution, your actions can be overturned with the stroke of a pen. When your crowning achievement – Obamacare – is derided by virtually everyone in the country as an epic failure and will be repealed and replaced in short order, you realize your entire presidency was a sham and a national disgrace.

Obama is flailing about in his final weeks desperately trying to keep the attention focused upon him. He is gambling with the lives of his countrymen by doing everything in his power to provoke World War III with Russia and to inflame the Middle East with his UN engineered snub of Israel. Obama doesn’t like to lose and he is acting like a churlish spoiled brat as his time runs out. He has become a laughingstock around the world. He will fan the flames of discontent in this country until he is ushered out of the White House.

Here are a few suppositions about what will happen next:

Obama trying to sow discord between the U.S. and Russia will fail, as Trump and Putin will meet and find common ground in the Middle East, the Ukraine, and Turkey. Republican neo-cons like McCain and Graham will be outraged. Liberal warmongers who once protested Bush’s wars will also be outraged. The mainstream media will continue to try and fan the flames of war.
Before leaving office Obama will poke a final stick in the eye of Trump and his supporters by pardoning Hillary Clinton for all possible wrongdoing. This will infuriate the right. Trump will do everything in his power to investigate the Clinton foundation and any issues which could incriminate Bill, Holder, Lynch or Obama. The peaceful transition of power has not been observed by the left, so all bets are off once Trump takes office.
Well-funded (by Soros) domestic agitators, including BLM and various femi-nazi groups, will attempt to disrupt the inauguration ceremonies. There will be violence, conflicts with Trump supporters, and police confrontations. This will further widen the divide in this country. The left have proven to be those who promote violence and will continue to do so. If they venture outside of their urban safe zones, they will be met with a white heavily armed populace.
The left wing mainstream media will not be deterred in their efforts to bring down the Trump presidency. They will fire away on a daily basis as their ratings drop lower and lower. Their railing against “fake news” has backfired, driving more people to alternative media sites where they will not be inundated with Deep State approved propaganda. The press will do their utmost to agitate the masses, creating and promoting conflict. Trump will continue to bypass and scorn the media outlets by taking his message directly to the people.
Building the wall, shutting off the immigration pipeline of Muslim refugees, defunding sanctuary cities, and fully supporting local police across the country will trigger snowflakes, BLM terrorists, illegal immigrants, and various Soros funded radical groups to stage violent protests in the liberal urban enclaves. They are waiting for their next high profile police shooting to pounce. The civil chaos and violent protests will increase as the year progresses.
Whoever Trump nominates as his Supreme Court justice will face enormous scrutiny. The left wing media will stop at nothing to destroy the nominee. The hearings in Congress will be nasty, rude, and vitriolic. The animosity between the opposing sides will reach epic proportions. Both sides know the Supreme Court is of vital importance to the future course of the country.
With Obama failing to fade into the sunset and his enormous ego and arrogance spurring him to agitate the left wingers, there will be no de-intensifying of the rhetoric between the right and the left. As we’ve seen, the left are the proponents of violence as their chief weapon. An attempt on the life of Trump is a distinct possibility in his first year in office. A successful or unsuccessful attempt would have far reaching consequences that could lead to civil chaos.

Global Disorder Forecast

“We focus on our goal, anchor on our plan, and neglect relevant base rates, exposing ourselves to the planning fallacy. We focus on what we want to do and can do, neglecting the plans and skills of others. Both in explaining the past and in predicting the future, we focus on the causal role of skill and neglect the role of luck. We are therefore prone to an illusion of control. We focus on what we know and neglect what we do not know, which makes us overly confident in our beliefs.” – Daniel Kahneman, Thinking, Fast and Slow (https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0374533555/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=8ffc9c377d8367fe36db638bf565ad84&creativeASIN=0374533555)

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The level of global disorder hasn’t been this high since the 1930s. There are dozens of potential flash points capable of producing a cascading crisis which could blow up the world. The highly touted establishment mantra of globalization has produced an interconnected web of trillions in global debt, with one quadrillion dollars of indecipherable derivatives layered on top, all dependent upon the sustenance of insolvent mega-banks and bankrupt nation states. The only thing keeping this global Ponzi scheme alive is the unfounded belief in the brilliance of central bankers and corrupt politicians.

The detonator for these interwoven financial weapons of mass destruction is rising global interest rates. The global financial system will be blown sky high by a sustained high volume sovereign bond selloff. The bond market is always the canary in the coal mine. Bonds will sell-off before stocks and real estate. Bond markets have begun to sell-off in a relatively orderly manner over the last three months, with long term Treasuries falling 13%. Bill Gross recently described the growing risk:

“Global yields lowest in 500 years of recorded history. $10 trillion of neg. rate bonds. This is a supernova that will explode one day.”

Will that day happen in 2017? No one knows for sure, but the probability is much higher than biased “experts” believe. The substantial concentration of cognitive biases clouding the judgement of the supposed wise men ruling the world has blinded them to the tragic consequences of what happens when the mother of all bubbles explodes like a supernova.

The complacency of those in charge and the trusting masses will eventually be dealt a death blow when the high frequency trading computers run amuck and wipe out trillions of faux paper wealth in a matter of minutes. The powers that be will declare no one could have seen it coming, when in actuality anyone with a basic understanding of math could have seen it coming from a mile away. Most have chosen to remain blind to reality, because dealing with it is too painful to consider.

“We can be blind to the obvious, and we are also blind to our blindness.” – Daniel Kahneman, Thinking, Fast and Slow (https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0374533555/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=8ffc9c377d8367fe36db638bf565ad84&creativeASIN=0374533555)

Let’s get to a few prognostications regarding global events in 2017:

Obama, in a despicable act of trying to fence Trump in, has introduced further sanctions against Russia and Putin based upon no solid evidence other than the opinions of the same people who were sure there were WMD in Iraq. The MSM and the neo-con faction of his party are all on Obama’s side. I expect Trump to override Obama’s childish display of antagonism, while showing the neo-cons there is a new sheriff in town, by developing a working relationship with Putin and lowering the tensions between the two countries.
Trump and Putin will come to an agreement regarding keeping Assad in power in Syria while turning both nations’ attention to obliterating ISIS and the so called “moderate” Al Qaeda terrorists in the Middle East. General Mattis and Trump’s team of rational thinkers will develop a feasible plan to destroy ISIS once and for all. Safe zones will jointly be created in Syria and Iraq by the U.S. and Russia to stem the tide of refugees pouring into the EU and U.S.
The U.S. dependency on Saudi oil will continue to decrease, further reducing their influence on U.S. policy in the Middle East. Saudi failure in Syria, Yemen and keeping Iran contained will lead to further discontent in the kingdom. Financial woes, declining oil output and religious tensions will fray the fabric of their insular society and lead to a religious uprising and civil war.
Turkey has been pushed into the Russian sphere of influence by U.S. meddling. The country is falling apart. A civil war on par with the Syrian conflict is likely to breakout. Russia would likely support the dictator Erdogan against rebel forces supported by NATO. Religious and sectarian violence will tear the country apart and create further tensions between Russia and the U.S.
Israel will pre-emptively take action either covertly or overtly to damage the Iranian nuclear program without informing the U.S. of its actions in advance. This will be supported by the neo-con factions in the U.S. government, but will strain relations between Netanyahu and Trump.
The crackpot efforts at demonetization by Modi in India will destroy the Indian economy and cause societal upheaval among his 1.25 billion mostly poor citizens. With the eighth largest economy on the planet imploding, the economic reverberations across Southeast Asia will be enormous, possibly being the trigger for the next step down in this ongoing global recession. India’s weakness could spur their enemy Pakistan to take aggressive border actions which could lead to military conflict.
With the fourth largest economy in the world in near permanent recession for the last twenty years, Japan’s debt to GDP ratio of 230% portends financial collapse. In the midst of a demographic implosion, with negative interest rates, and a central bank buying all the newly issued debt and billions in stocks, Japan is a bug seeking a windshield. When this Ponzi economy crashes, the worldwide impact will be significant. If Japan doesn’t trigger the global eruption, it will be a major contributor as the detonation spreads around the world.
China continues to steadily devalue the yuan against the USD and has eliminated all the gains since 2010. At the same time they have reduced their foreign reserves by over 20% since mid-2014. China’s third largest economy in the world is slowing rapidly as more bad debt builds up in their system. They have a real estate bubble that makes the U.S. bubble seem like a pimple on the ass of a fly. A trade war initiated by Donald Trump would be the pin bursting the Chinese debt bubble. The situation could intensify into a bond selloff and panic. If derivative positions of over-leveraged or poorly-hedged globally systemic banks begin to unravel, cascading losses could lead to a vicious cycle and a tragic outcome.
Potential military conflict between China and Japan/U.S. over the islands in the South China Sea ramps up by the day. No one wants a war, but all it would take is a careless stupid act by a low level military officer to create a crisis. China is already bent out of shape by Trump acknowledging the existence of Taiwan. China is still essentially a dictatorship. The country is racked by corruption. An economic collapse could be met with distracting the public through a military adventure against Taiwan. These scenarios are unlikely in 2017, but not out of the question.
The most likely and potentially most dire event which could affect the world in 2017 is the disintegration of the EU. Greece is still a basket case. Italy is on the brink. The EU area economy barely registers positive after years of negative interest rates and debt issuance. Unemployment rates, excluding Germany, range between 10% and 25%. Brexit and Trump’s victory portend a further shift to the right in the EU. The right wing party will win the French presidency. Merkel will be defeated in the upcoming elections. France and Italy are likely to have a referendum on leaving the EU. The departure of either will end the failed experiment. The insolvent Italian, French and German banks, specifically Deutsche Bank, will collapse in an EU disintegration scenario.
The influx of Muslims into Europe is destroying their culture and leading to violence, terrorism, bloodshed, and now retribution. The left wingers have made a dreadful mistake in allowing hordes of Muslims to invade their countries. Their already fraying social welfare states are now completely bankrupt and citizens are afraid to go into the streets for fear of being attacked by members of the religion of peace. With the right gaining power in France, Germany and Italy, the blowback against Muslims will be violent and bloody. European cities will be rocked with violence throughout 2017.

“Confidence is a feeling, which reflects the coherence of the information and the cognitive ease of processing it. It is wise to take admissions of uncertainty seriously, but declarations of high confidence mainly tell you that an individual has constructed a coherent story in his mind, not necessarily that the story is true.” – Daniel Kahneman, Thinking, Fast and Slow (https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0374533555/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=8ffc9c377d8367fe36db638bf565ad84&creativeASIN=0374533555)

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I think it is pretty obvious my pessimism bias may have skewed my predictions for 2017. I’ve been pessimistic for the last eight years and the stock market is up 200%. I try to assess the world from a logical fact based frame of mind, but for the last eight years the world has been kept afloat by a combination of debt, delusions and denial.

The Deep State propaganda machine has convinced the masses we are living in normal times, despite the fact the Fed printed $3.5 trillion out of thin air and handed it to the criminal Wall Street banks, interest rates have been kept at or near zero for eight years, revelations from Snowden that we truly live in a surveillance state far exceeding Orwell’s dystopian vision, the national debt doubling to $20 trillion, proof that all financial markets are rigged, undeclared wars being waged across the globe, and a reality TV star defeating a criminal to be president of the United States. Sounds pretty normal to me.

My confidence level in my predictions is quite low. But, if one or two of the low probability events comes to fruition, the financial and/or human devastation will make 2008 look like a walk in the park. I don’t have an agenda in putting forth these predictions. I’m not selling anything or hawking stocks, bonds, or gold. I don’t tout myself as an expert like the over-confident, arrogant pricks on CNBC, CNN, MSNBC, or FOX. I’m just trying to understand what is happening in this crazy universe. We live in an uncertain world. I believe an unbiased appreciation of uncertainty is the cornerstone of rationality and reason. Not acknowledging the role of luck or chance in the course of human events is setting you up for a fall.

Our countries, central banks, financial complex, military industrial complex, sick care complex, global mega-corporations, and government bureaucracies are ruled by men whose hubris, arrogance, greed and hunger for power has warped our world, producing unfathomable ill-gotten profits for the financial class who can abuse justice with impunity while the average man is bullied, pillaged and abused with disregard.

These well dressed, highly educated, sophisticated, soulless barbarians hide their evil deeds behind the trappings of culture, but they are revealed by their grotesque schemes, murderous policies, and war profits soaked in blood. When they lose control of this global Ponzi scheme, I hope they pay the ultimate price for their traitorous deeds. Will it happen in 2017? I don’t know. But it will happen before this Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=936b87bc9d6f44ddbfeaf95a2c3f7388&creativeASIN=0767900464) climaxes.

“The risk of catastrophe will be very high. The nation could erupt into insurrection or civil violence, crack up geographically, or succumb to authoritarian rule. If there is a war, it is likely to be one of maximum risk and effort – in other words, a total war. Every Fourth Turning has registered an upward ratchet in the technology of destruction, and in mankind’s willingness to use it.” – Strauss & Howe – The Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0767900464?tag=thebur01-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=0767900464&adid=0VTFPQQFCAV7FYWEMDZT&)

THE BURNING PLATFORM PART 2 (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/01/01/a-biased-2017-forecast-part-two/)

turiya

5th January 2017, 02:47

From the above post...

Here are a few suppositions about what will happen next:

Whoever Trump nominates as his Supreme Court justice will face enormous scrutiny. The left wing media will stop at nothing to destroy the nominee. The hearings in Congress will be nasty, rude, and vitriolic. The animosity between the opposing sides will reach epic proportions. Both sides know the Supreme Court is of vital importance to the future course of the country.

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Schumer Vows To Fight Trump
Supreme Court Nominee:
"We’re Gonna Oppose Him
Tooth And Nail" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-04/schumer-vows-fight-trump-supreme-court-nominee-we%E2%80%99re-gonna-oppose-him-tooth-and-nail)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Jan 4, 2017 1:55 PM
Chuck Schumer is apparently on board with the slew of angry celebs who posted a video yesterday (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-03/celebs-call-congress-obstruct-racist-sexist-xenophobic-trump) calling on Democrats in Congress to do everything possible to "obstruct" and "vigorously oppose" the "racist, sexist, xenophobic" Trump administration.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8EgdgshOzc

After months of whining about Republicans blocking Obama's late term Supreme Court nominee, resulting in what Rachel Maddow dubbed a "stolen seat," Schumer has vowed that Democrats will now attempt to do the exact same thing. And while a name has not even yet been proposed, the defiant Schumer told Rachel Maddow that he can't "imagine a nominee that Donald Trump chooses that would get Republican support that [Democrats] could support."

“We are not going to settle on a Supreme Court nominee."

"If they don’t appoint someone who’s really good, we’re gonna oppose him tooth and nail.”

"It's hard for me to imagine a nominee that Donald Trump chooses that would get Republican support that we could support."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9vYv088SY8

Of course, under current rules, a simple majority vote of the Senate is sufficient to approve a Supreme Court nominee though, while it would be somewhat unprecedented, Democrats could filibuster to block an appointment.

So are we looking at an 8-person Supreme Court until one party of the other gains a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate?

ZERO HEDGE (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-04/schumer-vows-fight-trump-supreme-court-nominee-we%E2%80%99re-gonna-oppose-him-tooth-and-nail)

turiya

5th January 2017, 03:16

Jeff Rense interviews George Webb regarding "Where is Eric Bravermnan? Who Killed Monoca Petersen?"....

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(1/02/2017)
Hour 2 - George Webb - Part 1
The Clinton Foundation Ties To Mideast

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George Webb Youtube Channel (https://www.youtube.com/user/georgwebb)
(edit note: The supposed assassination attempt that Rense
talks about had be debunked by Still Report #1094 (https://youtu.be/xzIcXZdPzM4) some time ago.)

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(1/03/2017)
Hour 3 - George Webb - Part 2
Operation Gladio In The US?

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George Webb Youtube Channel (https://www.youtube.com/user/georgwebb)
(edit: fixed link for part 2)

_______________________________

Day 72 - Where is Eric Braverman?
Who Killed Monica Petersen?
(Published on Jan 3, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9zyaHDfrB0_______________________________

Day 73 - Where is Eric Bravermnan? Part 1
Who Killed Monoca Petersen?
(Published on Jan 4, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T7o5BhARTY_______________________________

Day 73 - Where is Eric Braverman? Part 2
(Published on Jan 4, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk0tcW6DWUA

norman

5th January 2017, 05:29

Cidersomerset

5th January 2017, 10:41

CIA NN still stirring ......James Woolsey says the intel agencies were
expecting a 'Hillary' and have been Trumped and they are trying to
adjust. The hosts are trying to 'diss' Julian Assange and CIA NN and
others cannot believe anyone would not believe our 16 or 17 intel
agencies .....As far as the hosts are concerned the alternate news outlets
do not exist it seems . let alone telling the public what really is going
on and Trump and his advisors have tapped into that.

Trump adviser: There's no point in listening to Assange

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Published on 4 Jan 2017
Former CIA director and Trump adviser James Woolsey said that he doesn't
think anyone should be listening to Wikileaks founder Julian Assange.

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This sums up the mainstream view on Assange and other whistleblowers...

‘CNN covering its *ss with Assange 'pedophile' retraction’ - journalism prof

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Published on 4 Jan 2017
Ethics and journalistic responsibility flew out the window when Phil Mudd, a former
CIA counterterrorism official, appeared on CNN and he claimed Wikileaks founder
Julian Assange is a "pedophile." The CNN program later issued a statement saying
they had no evidence to back up the analyst's claim. Georgetown University
Journalism Professor Chris Chambers joins RT America's Manila Chan to give his
take.

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ABC also in a panic and cannot believe he does not believe them and also
hints they have ways at getting back at the President elect if he cross's them.
Sounds a bit sinister , they do know how to eliminate world leaders including
American ones.....

Trump's Taunts Continue as Intel Agencies Prepare Russia Hacking Brief

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Published on 4 Jan 2017
Just 16 days until he assumes leadership of the agencies, the president-elect
continues to taunt the U.S. Intelligence Community and cast doubt on their
assessments.

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CBS chimes in.....

Breakdown of Trump's feud with the intelligence community

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Published on 4 Jan 2017
President- elect Trump continues to level new criticism at the community despite
plans for an intelligence briefing on Friday. Justice and Homeland Security
correspondent Jeff Pegues walks through how this clash reached a fever pitch

Cidersomerset

5th January 2017, 11:25

CBS ...Mainstream cannot believe whats happening and one pundit
suggests Trump is a threat to US security....

Trump waging war with the intelligence community

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Published on 4 Jan 2017
While the intelligence community remains united that Russia was behind
the hacks that reportedly interfered with the election, President-elect
Trump continues to cast doubt on those conclusions. Moveon.org senior
adviser & national spokesperson Karine Jean-Pierre, American Conservative
Union chairman and Republican strategist Matt Schlapp and CBS News
senior political editor Steve Chaggaris join CBSN to discuss.

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CBSN Interview with Sen. Amy Klobuchar

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Published on 4 Jan 2017
Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) joins CBSN from Capitol Hill to discuss the alleged
Russian hacking, the final push to save Obamacare and President-elect Donald
Trump's cabinet. Watch the full interview from "Red & Blue" here.

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Journalists exposed by WikiLeaks to cover Trump White House

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Published on 4 Jan 2017
WikiLeaks' release of hacked emails from the DNC and Hillary Clinton campaign
chair John Podesta revealed close ties between journalists and Clinton campaign.
These same reporters will cover the Trump White House. A closer look #Tucker

Cidersomerset

5th January 2017, 11:46

Kaine slams Trump as 'Putin's defense lawyer'

CIA NN...
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Published on 5 Jan 2017
Sen. Tim Kaine discusses President-elect Donald Trump's response to findings that
Russian hackers interfered in the 2016 election.

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CIA Director Brennan casts doubt on Assange's credibility

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Published on 4 Jan 2017
Brennan promised specifics in the report amid questions about Russia's role;
Catherine Herridge has the details for 'Special Report'

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President-elect Trump casts doubt about Russian hack role

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Published on 4 Jan 2017
The 'Special Report' All-Star panel weighs in

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These people are just mainstream 'junkies' and cannot comprehend alternate views it seems...

Former chiefs of staff on Trump doubting intel on Russia hacking

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Published on 4 Jan 2017
As part of the transition, incoming Chief of Staff Reince Priebus met last month with
the men who have done the job for other presidents, including Andrew Card and Bill
Daley. Card, who served under President George W. Bush for five years, and Daley,
President Obama's chief of staff from 2011 to 2012, join "CBS This Morning" to
discuss President-elect Donald Trump's Twitter habits and his questioning of U.S.
intelligence on Russian hacking.

turiya

5th January 2017, 16:48

Robert Steel, ex CIA, makes a lot constructive suggestions for Trump, while talking to Jeff Rense 2017-01-04.

( they sound like great ideas to me )

MP3 file, play or download:

https://app.box.com/s/c9u35kixxmmauix1ho6f0qnevwxeswg2

Thanks, norman...

Robert David Steel had mentioned that he had a ZeroHedge article up specifically for Donald Trump to read... as follows:

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Former CIA Spy Has
A Christmas Message For Trump (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-24/former-cia-spy-has-surprising-christmas-message-trump)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Dec 24, 2016 12:52 PM
Submitted by Robert Steele via TheMindUnleashed.com, (http://themindunleashed.com/2016/12/former-cia-spy-surprising-christmas-message-trump.html)

"Dear Mr. Trump,

I am among the tens of millions who voted for you, and also among the twenty thousand or so that spent fifteen months obsessively devoted to getting you elected. I went to bed in tears on election night, only to be woken at midnight by my wife to watch the miracle unfold. Perhaps someone will read this and in a second miracle, you will hear my voice. I am going to make seven points with seven paragraphs and seven graphics.

#1 You are not only an accidental president, you are a fringe president. 27% of the eligible voters elected you (1% more than elected Barack Obama). 26% of the eligible voters hate you with the passion common to the brain-washed or brain-dead, and 47% did not vote at all. Trump won against all odds (20-1 at best, 200-1 at worst) because Hillary Clinton was not able to use the same electronic voting fraud against you that she used to steal thirteen primaries from Bernie Sanders. That was the big one; in combination with her calling us all “deplorables,” her spaz attack in NYC, her doctor and nurse in constant attendance, and of course the emails leaked by insiders – not the Russians, John Brennan is a liar plain and simple – she lost more than you won. A miracle. Get a grip. You do not represent all of us, you represent 27% of us, and fixing that should be your first priority. Here is the political landscape – note that the Establishment – the two-party tyranny that opposed you to the bitter end – controls 30% of the vote. Your mission is to mobilize the 47% who did not vote in 2016, toward joining the Movement you lead in time to impact on 2018, while embracing the Sandernistas and the Libertarians and Tea Party Conservatives to the fullest extent.

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#2 You cannot govern responsibly as long as our electoral system is corrupt. The electoral system is rigged twelve different ways not counting George Soros’ funding of protestors and the occasional false flag shooting of cops to be blamed on blacks. Although you spoke to a rigged system, and your allies blocked Hillary Clinton from leveraging the electronic voting fraud option she used so successfully against Bernie Sanders, there are at least two sucking chest wounds in our political process that you need to address, ideally before you submit a single nomination to the Senate.

First, you must free the Members from their dependence on campaign finance controlled by the extreme wealthy, the banks, and the various industrial complexes, from the agricultural to the educational to the military to the pharmaceutical to the prison complexes. Second, you must break the back of the two-party tyranny and open the halls of Congress to a swing vote – Independents and members of small parties. I had to run for president in 2012 to learn that there are six accredited small parties (eligible for matching federal funds) that are blocked from ballot access by the two-party tyranny. The Republican Party is delusional in thinking that it can avoid the same implosion that befell the Democratic Party. Now is the time for you to go direct to the public, mobilize the 47%, and demand an Electoral Reform Act of 2017 – a Unity Act. The system is rigged twelve different ways. Challenge Senator Chuck Schumer on this, and if he fights you, bury him.

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#3 The media purveys fake news. Between now and Inauguration Day you should ask Mike Flynn, your National Security Advisor, to sit down with Kellyanne Conway, Brad Parscale (Giles-Parscale), Andrew Garfield (Glevum Associates), and me, to discuss the repurposing of the White House floor space and resources now wasted on the fake news press. In my view, this space could house the National Security Advisor and a Grand Strategy Cell that is directly supportive of your thinking about Whole of Government strategy and policy; a Trump Studio that broadcasts a mix of Trump appointees, subject matter experts, and regular Public Briefings that cannot be filtered or manipulated by the corrupt media and are vastly superior to the crap you are getting in the President’s Daily Brief; a presidential polling unit under Kellyanne’s direct control but leveraging the extraordinary methodologies of Andrew Garfield and Glevum Associates as well as others far superior to the mediocrities used by the media during the campaign; and an Open Source element that can give you 90% of what you need in the way of decision-support at very low cost – with the added advantage that being unclassified, this intelligence can be shared widely.

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#4 Ike Eisenhower was the last president to have a grand strategy – you need one. The US Government (USG) has not had a Grand Strategy since Project Solarium was commissioned by President Ike Eisenhower in 1953. As you strive to overcome decades of irresponsible spending and bad management across all the government stovepipes, the single fastest way to get both your Cabinet nominees and the Senate leaders of the oversight committees on the same page is to have a one-week retreat in which a Grand Strategy is devised for Whole of Government – not only for national security, but for domestic security and prosperity as well. Such a retreat would begin with a proper briefing on the ten high-level threats to humanity (eight of which the secret intelligence community ignores); it would have a broad range of subject matter experts present to brief on the documented 50% waste across each government domain and the true cost of proposed alternative courses of action; and it would illuminate how you can end borrowing, achieve a balanced budget, and still finance your ambitious objectives with tax reform far beyond what you are contemplating now (see #5). Below is half of a Grand Strategy for your consideration – the National Security half. A similar approach can be taken to address each of the major domestic domains, especially Agriculture, Energy, Health, Infrastructure, and Water.

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#5 Eliminate All Taxes Less the Fractional Tax on All Transactions. The tax code is a how Congress extorts money from banks and corporations seeking exemptions and special treatment. Simplifying it is not going to increase your revenue and is not going to change the fact that we are not taxing 80% of the transactions including stock and currency transactions. Kill the entire tax code and eliminate the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). You can double government revenue by imposing a tiny fractional transaction tax on all transactions. Edgar Feige, the University of Wisconsin professor who has documented the simplicity and the utility of this approach, is available to brief you personally. Note: this is probably the one thing that your Goldman Sachs nominees have been ordered to sabotage – this is their loyalty test.

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#6 You are surrounded by traitors – financial, ideological, and religious. The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is a theatrical agency. It has not been allowed to go after traitors within the USG (I estimate 500 not now being investigated) or across our nation-wide commercial, industrial, and our scientific & technical networks (I estimate 5,000 not now being investigated). It is not possible for you to be effective in devising strategy, making policy, and managing the budget if you are undermined from within. Within the FBI itself there are secret societies including the original pedophile protective association started by FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, himself a rampant pedophile and cross-dresser – each generation hand-picks and promotes the next generation of “protectors.” Other secret societies within the FBI respond to the Vatican, to Israel, and to Wall Street. Within NSA and CIA there are numerous traitors who consider it their primary duty to spy on US politicians including the President, and who use blackmail to protect their budgets and their ability to run drugs, guns, money, and children, often leveraging military assets conscripted for “sensitive” programs. Sensitive, indeed. The FBI needs to be scrubbed, and then unleashed, with its budget tripled, toward the below priorities.

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#7 You are being set up by Wall Street – a financial melt-down looms. More than one observer including David Stockman and Richard Fisher (former Dallas Federal Reserve President) and Brandon Smith of Alt-Market.com, has documented the massive bubble that will pop – deliberately – during your first four years. You appear to be aware of the threat but may not have considered at least one radical idea that could “checkmate” your financial opponents: a call from you to all US citizen debtors, particularly the young with student debt and the elderly with medical debt but also including those with credit debt and small business debt, to sign the Debt Renunciation Pledge shown below. This pledge to be located on a website to be created by Brad Parscale and funded privately, would strive to register $2 trillion in debt across 100 million debtors, each of whom would be explicitly authorizing you as a President to re-negotiate that debt. Michael Hudson, the most honest visionary economist we have in America, suggests that you need to orchestrate a debt jubilee anyway, but I see this as a superb check on the financial community and its plans to crash the system on their terms. You can organize a soft landing on your terms.

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And now, a word for the 73% of eligible voters who did not vote for Donald Trump.

First, please join me in praising the Lord for our accidental president. Accidental and fringe he may be, but he was elected legitimately within a severely flawed system and his greatest attribute – one we should treasure – is that he is “unshackled.” He was elected against the opposition of the two-party tyranny that fronts for Wall Street and the various complexes; he was elected without taking substantial funds from any major donors including Sheldon Adelson and the Koch Brothers; and he was elected without the aid of the wide variety of lobbying firms that spent over a billion dollars for what they thought was a “sure thing” – the election of the most flawed candidate ever to be put before the American public.

Second, please acknowledge that Bernie Sanders, not Hillary Clinton, is the rightful nominee and the spiritual leader of the Democratic Party. We now know – as incontrovertible fact – that Hillary Clinton stole thirteen primaries from Bernie Sanders (Stanford University has documented this) and that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) was a criminal conspiracy against Bernie Sanders throughout the primary campaign. We must, however, also acknowledge that Bernie Sanders was complicit – he knew he was being cheated and he ultimately went along, just as Al Gore rolled over and played dead when Warren Christopher delivered the bribe offer from Wall Street — $100 million to accept Jeb Bush’s “reasonable dishonesty” in rigging the Florida general election.

Third, and this is really important, please consider the very real prospect of the Republican Party imploding between now and 2018 just as the Democratic Party has imploded. The next batch of leaked emails could be focused on Scott Walker, Reince Priebus, and the Republican National Committee (RNC). There are six accredited national political parties that have been blocked from ballot access, with the Libertarian being the largest followed by the Greens. Emerging parties such as Working Families are easily kept from growing, and Independents – solitary individuals by nature, have virtually no prospect of electoral relevance as the system is now structured – rigged twelve different ways. What this means is that the 47% who chose not to vote – and the 13% that wanted Bernie Sanders – as well as the roughly 13% like myself who are totally disgusted with the Republican Party and its lack of intelligence with integrity – could form a critical mass of 73%.

I’ve done all one man can do. Now it is up to you, the 73%, to decide if you want your country back. The only thing standing in your way is your apathy.

Merry Christmas – and God Bless America

ZeroHedge (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-24/former-cia-spy-has-surprising-christmas-message-trump)

turiya

5th January 2017, 18:48

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The Democrats, lead by head clown Chuck
Schumer, know how bad ObamaCare is and
what a mess they are in. Instead of working to
fix it, they..

3:57 AM - 5 Jan 2017

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...do the typical political thing and BLAME. The
fact is ObamaCare was a lie from the
beginning."Keep you doctor, keep your plan!"
It is....

4:01 AM - 5 Jan 2017

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...time for Republicans & Democrats to get
together and come up with a healthcare plan
that really works - much less expensive & FAR
BETTER!

4:06 AM - 5 Jan 2017

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The dishonest media likes saying that I am in
Agreement with Julian Assange - wrong. I
simply state what he states, it is for the people....

5:25 AM - 5 Jan 2017

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to make up their own minds as to the truth.
The media lies to make it look like I am against "Intelligence"
when in fact I am a big fan!

5:45 AM - 5 Jan 2017

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Toyota Motor said will build a new plant in
Baja, Mexico, to build Corolla cars for U.S. NO
WAY! Build plant in U.S. or pay big border tax.

10:14 AM - 5 Jan 2017

DebJoy

5th January 2017, 19:05

I found this data on Trump on another forum. I have no info on whether it "all adds up" but it cried out to be included here.
Trump will be 70 years, 7 months, and 7 days old on inauguration day.
Trump will be inaugurated 77 days after being elected president by 77 electors after 7 faithless electors defected. (original elector tally was 306 to 232 but on December 19th 7 electors became faithless making the new tally 304 to 227 a difference of 77 votes)

just saying+

The repetition of the "7" number(s) here is really unusual, and I feel significant.
http://www.sunsigns.org/angel-number-77-meaning/ is one site that I read about the significance, but I'm not an expert, so will leave it to someone in the profession to interpret.

On a different or same note, I remember a speech given by IMF Christine Lagarde - back in 2014 or so.
Lots of references to "7" - we thought it strange at the time. Seemed to be a lot of hidden and coded, perhaps occult messages in her speech.
Below is the link to the speech with the added info that I have copied/pasted below. Below that is the link to the full speech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYmViPTndxw

"7" references:
1:22 - "Now I'm going to test your numerology skills by asking you to think about the magic seven"
1:34 - "Most of you will know that seven is quite a number
2:24 - "2014, you drop the zero, fourteen, two times, seven"
4:08 - "It will mark the 70th anniversary, 70th anniversary, drop the zero, seven, of the Bretton Woods Conference that actually gave birth to the IMF" (7 + 0 = 7)
4:22 - "And it will be the 25th anniversary of the fall of the berlin wall, 25th.." (2 + 5 = 7)
4:38 - "It will also mark the 7th anniversary of the financial market jitters"
5:08 - "After those seven miserable years, weak and fragile"
5:14 - "We have seven strong years"
5:43 - "Now I don't know if the G7 will have anything to do with it" (G is also the 7th letter of the alphabet)

"2014" references:
1:18 - "The global economy and what we should expect for 2014"
2:19 - "So if we think about 2014"
2:24 - "2014, you drop the zero, fourteen, two times, seven"
3:54 - "So 2014 will be a milestone and hopefully a magic year in may respects"
5:05 - "So my hope and my wish for 2014"

To watch the full video go to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUXTz...

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I had thought this speech to be odd especially because 2014 is a "7" year (2+0+1+4), and I had an unusual feeling about mth 7/day 7/ year 7 (2014) and about NOT going to the Mariners game in Seattle that day. Everything I asked about being there on that date, my pendulum confirmed - so I didn't go, and even though "visible events" didn't occur, when I used the pendulum months and years after that and asked the same questions, I got the same responses that there had been some type of terrorist threat played out, that was not "active" yet (i.e. a bio-terrorism infection that would remain dormant).

Now in hearing about the Trump "7" numbers, I wonder if there's any connection between her speech and his election, as well. Or am I seeing connections where perhaps it's only an unusual coincidence. And therefore, "7" and Trump connections are only to be interpreted from a numerology perspective.

Cidersomerset

5th January 2017, 19:37

CIA NN...... 'pushing payback'........Led By Graham and McCain

Clapper 'Fake News'....The intel empire is striking back !!

Expelled Russians have 72 hours to leave US

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Published on 5 Jan 2017
In addition to sanctions, the Obama administration has expelled 35 Russian
diplomats and will close two Russian government compounds in Maryland
and New York in response to the country's hack of the 2016 presidential
election. CNN's Jim Sciutto reports.

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Graham to Trump: Don't undermine intel experts

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Published on 5 Jan 2017

Sen. Lindsay Graham (R) sends a message to President-elect Donald Trump by
stating it's okay to challenge the intel officials but don't undermine them.

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Director of National Intelligence James Clapper on impact of fake news stories

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Published on 5 Jan 2017
At today's Senate hearing on Russia hacking, Sen. Jack Reed asked about the use
of fake news stories to mislead the public. Director Clapper replied by saying Russia
conducted a mutifaceted campaign and hacking was only one part of it. Watch his
full response.

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U.S. intel sees multiple motives behind Russian hacking

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Published on 5 Jan 2017
U.S. Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told a Senate hearing today
that Russia had multiple motives in a cyberattack related to the U.S. presidential
election. The New York Times' Mark Leibovich discusses on CBSN.

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John McCain Asks Intel Head: Does Russian Hacking Constitute An Act Of War? | NBC News

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Published on 5 Jan 2017
Director of National Intelligence James Clapper reaffirms his October report on
Russia’s intent to interfere with the U.S. election process. NSA Director Admiral
Mike Rogers testifies that Russia is becoming increasingly more capable in cyber
activity.

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Paul Ryan: Russia Clearly Tried To Meddle In Our Political System | NBC News

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Published on 5 Jan 2017
At his weekly news conference, House Speaker Paul Ryan answers questions about
Russia hacking and Obamacare.

Cidersomerset

5th January 2017, 19:58

U.S. intel officials stand by Russian hacking allegations

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Published on 5 Jan 2017
At a Senate hearing Thursday, U.S. intelligence officials remained resolute in their findings
that Russia was behind a series of cyberattacks during the presidential campaign. Peter
Brookes, senior fellow in national security affairs at the Heritage Foundation, joins CBSN to discuss.

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'WHAT BOLLOCKS FROM CLAPPER AND HIS SIDE KICKS'.........

They know exactly why Assange is holed up in London.....

James Clapper: Julian Assange, Wikileaks Have Put Intel Officers In Danger | NBC News

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Published on 5 Jan 2017

When asked about Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, Director of National
Intelligence James Clapper says, “I don’t think those of us in the intelligence
community have a whole lot of respect for him.”

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Senators grill Intel. chiefs on Russian hacking claims

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Published on 5 Jan 2017

DNI stands by conclusion that Russia was behind election hack

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Huckabee: Americans dont believe Russia impacted election

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Published on 5 Jan 2017

Fox News contributor weighs in on Senate hearing on hacking and cybersecurity

Cidersomerset

5th January 2017, 21:38

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Russian hacking claims: US spy chief promises Putin motive

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Clapper (right) said Putin's "motivation" will be revealed in a report

The US intelligence chief has promised to explain why Russia allegedly
meddled in the US presidential election.

Director of National Intelligence General James Clapper said Russian
President Vladimir Putin ordered the hack of Democratic Party emails,
and the motive will be revealed next week.

But Mr Clapper stopped short of saying it was "an act of war".

Russia has denied involvement but the US has announced sanctions
against Russian officials. A report on foreign meddling in US elections
was given to President Barack Obama on Thursday.

President-elect Donald Trump is to be briefed on the report on Friday
and the unclassified version will be made public next week.

Top US intelligence officials were giving testimony to the Senate Armed
Services Committee investigating the alleged interference.

In their assessment, Moscow interfered to help Mr Trump, the Republican
candidate, beat Democrat Hillary Clinton.

read more...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38521503

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FBI never requested access to DNC’s computer servers – National Committee official

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Published on 5 Jan 2017
DNC’s deputy communications director, Eric Walker, reportedly told BuzzFeed
online publication, that while they met with representatives from the FBI on a
number of occasions, the intelligence agency never requested access to their
computer servers, the centrepiece of the investigation.

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Did Russia interfere with the U.S. election?

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Published on 5 Jan 2017
CNN Political Commentator and Donald Trump supporter Andre Bauer gives his view
on the Cap Hill hearings with U.S. intelligence officials.

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CIA NN still very anti Russian

Graham: Trump can't "undermine" intel experts

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Published on 5 Jan 2017

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R) questions top intelligence officials about Trump's
skepticism surrounding the intel community.

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McCaskill: Trump "trashing" intel community

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Published on 5 Jan 2017
Sen. McCaskill (D) argues that Trump is "trashing" the intel community and that if
Democrats did that, the GOP would be "howling."

Cidersomerset

5th January 2017, 22:09

Can Trump Rein In The CIA?

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5 jan 2017

Rumors are buzzing that President-elect Trump plans a big overhaul of the
CIA and the intelligence community in general. Will he? Can he? And what
might it look like when he's done?

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Clapper has ‘outright lied to Congress’ – former FBI agent

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Published on 5 Jan 2017

Former FBI agent and whistleblower Coleen Rowley joins RT’s Ashlee Banks to
discuss today’s Congressional Arms Services Committee hearing, widespread
allegations of Russian hacking, Director of National Intelligence Clapper’s long
history of public dishonesty and the complicity of mainstream US media.

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Known Liars and ISIS Collaborators Attack Trump

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Published on 5 Jan 2017
Infowars Nightly News Director Rob Dew ( @DewsNewz ) breaks down a clip from
James Clapper and John McCain concerning Julian Assange

turiya

6th January 2017, 02:50

So it Seems... Its a Never-Ending Up-Hill Battle...
Ironically, Leonard Cohen passed away the day before the 2016 election...

No doubt - a Literally True 'Absentee Ballot'...

Democracy is Coming
(Uploaded on Mar 31, 2009)

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How did NBC get "an exclusive look into
the top secret report he (Obama) was presented?"
Who gave them this report and why? Politics!

4:24 PM - 5 Jan 2017

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The Democratic National Committee would not
allow the FBI to study or see its computer info
after it was supposedly hacked by Russia......

4:30 PM - 5 Jan 2017

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So how and why are they so sure about
hacking if they never even requested an
examination of the computer servers? What is
going on?

4:40 PM - 5 Jan 2017

AutumnW

6th January 2017, 03:05

The Donald is finally helping the small precious metal fund I bought before the election, as a form of insurance IF he won. Counterintuitively markets and the dollar roared and gold got ass whipped.

A careful examination of the minutes of the fed's last meeting in December, yesterday, showed that they are not sure how they will proceed in 2017 because the Donald is impossible to predict. Soooooo....the investment community, already on a weird hair trigger, decided they didn't like the impression of instability and they ran out and bought gold.

Thank you, Mr. Trump. I can fault you for cozying up to Israel, for restalking the swamp with alligators, after draining some of the smaller catfish and being just a general all around goofball, but...you are currently making me just a bit of money! For that I will be eternally grateful!

turiya

6th January 2017, 03:51

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The Coup Against Truth (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/01/05/the-coup-against-truth-paul-craig-roberts/)
— Paul Craig Roberts
January 5, 2017 | Categories: Articles & Columns
Jon Rappoport’s mocking of the US presstitutes is superb:

“Vladimir Putin is the secret president of the United States.

“Yep. That’s it. The US is now the USSR. It’s all over. Trump is a Communist who took orders from Putin. Trump is a Red. That was his game all along. He’s a billionaire Commie.” Jon Rappoport Article Link (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2016/12/19/the-war-against-the-people-fear-and-loathing-in-ny-and-dc/)
Ridicule is effective, and nothing deserves ridicule more than the Washington Post, New York, Times, CNN, and the rest of the presstitutes who pretend to be real journalists. But as I have emphasized, and other real journalists, such as Glenn Greenwald see, the following example:

WashPost Is Richly Rewarded
for False News About Russia Threat
While Public Is Deceived -- by Glenn Greenwald (https://theintercept.com/2017/01/04/washpost-is-richly-rewarded-for-false-news-about-russia-threat-while-public-is-deceived/)

And, this example:

Washington Post Disgracefully Promotes
a McCarthyite Blacklist From a New, Hidden,
and Very Shady Group -- by Glenn Greenwald (https://theintercept.com/2016/11/26/washington-post-disgracefully-promotes-a-mccarthyite-blacklist-from-a-new-hidden-and-very-shady-group/)

...Implying with it, that the fake news recklessly promoted by the presstitutes brings with it the threat of thermo-nuclear war.

For several years Russia and her president have experienced endless demonization. The Russians know that Georgia’s invasion of South Ossetia (done while Putin was at the Beijing Olympics) was a Washington provocation. The Russians know that Washington’s coup in Ukraine (done while Putin was at the Sochi Olympics) was a provocation aimed at seizing Russia’s Black Sea naval base in Crimea and cutting Russia off from the Mediterranean. The Russians know that Washington knows that the charges that Russia hacked Hillary’s emails and the US presidential election are lies. The Russians know that the “Russian threat” created by Washington is a lie along with all of its permutations, such as an impending Russian invasion of Poland and the Baltics. The Russians understand that US ABM bases on Russia’s borders are provocations, as are NATO military exercises on Russia’s borders and in the Black Sea. You can add to this list on your own.

The lies are ubiquitous, have grown more absurd, and are now institutionalized in the US government in the CIA, executive branch agencies, and among many US senators and representatives. That these lies are validated by endless media repetitions throughout the Western world are viewed by Russia as indications that Western populations are being prepared for a military attack on Russia. Putin has warned publicly on many occasions that the Western propaganda is dangerously destabilizing. Yet, as he also notes, no one hears his warnings.

Washington is so intent on its anti-Russian propaganda that Congress has passed, and Obama has signed, an intelligence bill that contains a section, Title V, that authorizes active measures to counter purveyors of false news. These purveyors are alternative media websites, such as this one, that challenge the official lies. The truthful alternative media is accused of being under Russian influence. Last summer a website shrouded in secrecy was created that recently posted a list of 200 websites alleged to be under Russian influence, either directly or indirectly. The Washington Post irresponsibly published a long article endorsing the fake news of 200 websites working for the Russian government.

In other words, the suppression of the truth is the last defense of the corrupt American ruling establishment. During the last 24 years three Washington regimes have murdered millions of peoples in nine or more countries along with US civil liberty. To cover up these vast crimes, unparalleled in history, the presstitutes have lied, slandered, and libeled.

And the Washington criminal regime holds itself up to the world as the indispensable protector of democracy, human rights, truth, and justice. As the Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman said recently, what makes America exceptional is the use of might in the service of evil.

Washington brands not only its opponents but all who speak the truth “Russian agents,” hoping that the demonization of Russia has sufficiently frightened the population that Americans will turn their backs to those who speak the truth.

It would seem obvious even to the insouciant that an establishment that has gone so far out on a limb that the CIA director publicly attributes the election of Donald Trump to Russian interference but is unable to produce a shred of evidence—indeed in the face of totally conclusive evidence to the contrary—is determined to hold on to power at all costs.

The CIA’s open, blatant, and unprecedented propaganda attack against a president-elect has caused Trump to throw down the gauntlet to CIA director John Brennan. There are reports that Trump intends to revamp and reorganize the intelligence agency. The last president who said this, John F. Kennedy, was murdered by the CIA before he could strike against them. Kennedy believed that he could not take on the CIA until he was re-elected. The delay gave the CIA time to arrange his assassination.

Trump appears to understand his danger. He has announced that he intends to supplement his Secret Service protection (which was turned against JFK) with private security.

Isn’t it striking? The president of Russia states publicly that Washington is driving the world to thermo-nuclear war and that his warnings are ignored. The president-elect of the United States is under full-scale attack from the CIA and knows that he cannot trust his official security force. One might think that these extraordinary topics would be the only ones under discussion. But you can find such discussion only on a few alternative media websites, such as this one, branded by PropOrNot and the Washington Post as “under Russian influence.”

Paul Craig Roberts (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/01/05/the-coup-against-truth-paul-craig-roberts/)

AutumnW

6th January 2017, 04:08

I love Paul Craig Roberts and many other paleo-conservatives, like Pat Buchanan and I agree with 99.9% of what he has to say, particularly with everything in your post, Turiya. I am ready for the massive disappointment that lies ahead. I don't think Roberts is, nor Catherine Austin Fitts. Again, I hope I am wrong.

turiya

6th January 2017, 04:23

turiya

6th January 2017, 04:59

A couple of Zero Hedge Posted articles just came into focus...

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Trump Aims To Cut
The Neocon Deep State Off
At The Knees (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-05/trump-aims-cut-neocon-deep-state-knees)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Jan 5, 2017 10:35 PM
Submitted by Charles Hugh-Smith via OfTwoMinds blog (http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2017/01/trump-aims-to-cut-neocon-deep-state-off.html),

The Neocon-Neoliberals must be fired and put out to pasture before they do any more harm.

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I have long held that America's Deep State--the unelected National Security State often referred to as the Shadow Government--is not a unified monolith but a deeply divided ecosystem in which the dominant Neocon-Neoliberal Oligarchy is being challenged by elements which view the Neocon-Neoliberal agenda as a threat to national security and the interests of the United States.

I call these anti-Neocon-Neoliberal elements the progressive Deep State.

If you want a working definition of the Neocon-Neoliberal Deep State, Hillary Clinton's quip--we came, we saw, he died--is a good summary: a bullying, arrogance-soaked state-within-a-state pursuing an agenda of ceaseless intervention while operating a global Murder, Inc., supremely confident that no one in the elected government can touch them.

Until Trump unexpectedly wrenched the presidency from the Neocon's candidate. The Neocon Deep State's response was to manufacture a mass-media hysteria that Russia had wrongfully deprived the Neocon's candidate (Hillary Clinton) of what was rightfully hers: the presidency. (The Neocons operate their own version of the divine right of Political Nobility.)

The Neocon-Neoliberals' strategy was to delegitimize Trump's victory by ascribing it to "Russian Hacking," a claim that remains entirely unsubstantiated. Now that this grasping-at-straws Hail Mary coup attempt by a politicized C.I.A. and its corporate media mouthpiece has failed, the Neocon Deep State is about to find out the Progressive Deep State finally has a president who is willing and able to cut the Neocon-Neoliberals off at the knees.

Trump Is Working On A Plan To Restructure, Pare Back The CIA And America's Top Spy Agency (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-04/trump-working-plan-restructure-pare-back-cia-and-americas-top-spy-agency).

If you want documented evidence of this split in the Deep State--sorry, it doesn't work that way. Nobody in the higher echelons of the Deep State is going to leak anything about the low-intensity war being waged because the one thing everyone agrees on is the Deep State's dirty laundry must be kept private.

As a result, the split is visible only by carefully reading between the lines, by examining who is being placed in positions of control in the Trump Administration, and reading the tea leaves of who is "retiring" (i.e. being fired) or quitting, which agencies are suddenly being reorganized, and the appearance of dissenting views in journals that serve as public conduits for Deep State narratives.

I have also long held that Wall Street's political dominance is part and parcel of the Neocon-Neoliberal ideology, and the progressive elements in the Deep State also want to (finally) limit the power of the big banks and the rest of the Wall Street crowd.

Is the Deep State Fracturing into Disunity? (http://www.oftwominds.com/blogmar14/disunity-deep-state3-14.html) (March 14, 2014)

The split in the Deep State is a reflection of the profound political disunity that is occurring in the U.S. In other words, it isn't just disunity in the masses or the political elites--it's a division in all levels of our society.

The cause is not difficult to discern: the concentration of wealth and political power in the hands of the few is generating levels of inequality that threaten democracy, the social order and the vitality of the economy:

http://www.oftwominds.com/photos2014/wealth-inequality3-14a.jpg

As someone who has studied the Deep State for 40 years, I find it ironic that so many self-identified "progressives" do not understand that the U.S. military is now the Progressive element and it's the civilian leadership--the Neocon-Neoliberals-- who are responsible for leading the nation into quagmires and handing the keys to the chicken coop to the wolves of Wall Street.

When military leaders such as Eric Shinseki questioned the Neocon's insane "strategy" in Iraq--essentially a civilian fantasy of magical-thinking--the Neocons quickly cashiered him (Shinseki was a wounded combat veteran of Vietnam who rose through the ranks--the exact opposite of the coddled never-get-my-hands-dirty Elites in the civilian Neocon-Neoliberal leadership.)

To the degree that the U.S. has become a Third World Oligarchy owned and controlled by a financial-political Elite, then the U.S. military is one of the few national institutions that hasn't been corrupted by top-down politicization and worship of Wall Street.

Shinseki et al. did not amass a fortune from Wall Street like Bill and Hillary Clinton. The simple dictum--follow the money--maps the lay of the land rather neatly.

The Neocon-Neoliberals have run the nation into the ground. They must be fired and put out to pasture before they do any more harm. That includes the Fake-"Progressives" and the fake-"Conservatives" alike who have enriched themselves within the Neocon-Neoliberal Oligarchy.

If you are surprised that the Democratic Party, the C.I.A. and Wall Street are all hugging each other in the same cozy Neocon-Neoliberal Oligarchic embrace, you shouldn't be. Open your eyes.

Could the Deep State Be Sabotaging Hillary? (http://www.oftwominds.com/blogaug16/deep-state-hillary8-16.html) (August 8, 2016) SOURCE (http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2017/01/trump-aims-to-cut-neocon-deep-state-off.html)

turiya

6th January 2017, 05:29

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Trump Splits With 'Senior Advisor'
Former CIA Chief Woolsey (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-05/trump-transition-team-splits-senior-advisor-former-cia-chief-woolsey)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpgby Tyler Durden
Jan 5, 2017 7:30 PM
Trouble in paradise?

Following his comments earlier in the week that it was not just the Russians (but China and Iran maybe) that hacked US and that Trump "may be playing us," (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-03/its-not-just-russians-ex-cia-chief-claims-more-one-country-involved-us-hacks?page=2) former CIA Director James Woolsey has parted ways with the president-elect and will no longer be a Senior Advisor.

Woolsey did not appear to be toeing the company-line completely...

Woosley on Resigning From Trump Transition Team

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JoZWMmxmvw

As we noted previously, The Hill reports (http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/cia/312457-ex-cia-head-multiple-nations-may-have-hacked-us), Woolsey, who was a senior advisor to President-elect Donald Trump, said:

"I don’t think people ought to say they know for sure there’s only one. I don’t think they’re likely to be proven correct. It shouldn’t be portrayed as one guilty party,"

“It’s much more complicated than that. This is not an organized operation that is hacking into a target. It’s more like a bunch of jackals at the carcass of an antelope.”

Woolsey suggested China and Iran could be behind cyber breaches in the U.S.

“Is it Russian? Probably some,” he said. "Is it Chinese and Iranian? Maybe. We may find out more from Mr. Trump coming up today.”

This follows Trump's comments on Sunday hinting he would reveal new information about alleged Russian hacking during a New Year’s Eve celebration at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Fla.

“[I know] things that other people don’t know,” he said. "I just want them to be sure because it’s a pretty serious charge. I think it’s unfair if they don’t know.”

To which Woolsey contentiously also commented:

"There’s a possibility that he is [playing us] a little bit."

But as is clear, Woolsey's belief that the Russians "were in there" still goes further than what Trump has said about the hacks... which may be why Woolsey has announced in a formal statement

"Effective immediately, Ambassador Woolsey is no longer a Senior Adviser to President-elect Trump or the transition," Woolsey's spokesman, Jonathan Franks, wrote in a statement that was first reported by CNN's Jeremy Diamond.

"He wishes the President-elect and his Administration great success in their time in office."

Furthermore, The Washington Post's Philip Rucker reports (https://twitter.com/PhilipRucker/status/817153621821452289), Woolsey resigned after being cut out of intelligence talks with Trump and his national security adviser, retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn.

ZEROHEDGE (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-05/trump-transition-team-splits-senior-advisor-former-cia-chief-woolsey)

Cidersomerset

6th January 2017, 11:38

McAfee breaks down inconsistencies in FBI’s Grizzly Steppe report

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Published on 5 Jan 2017
Despite recent allegations against Russia, the FBI never actually accessed the
allegedly hacked DNC servers. Cyber security expert John McAfee joins ‘News With
Ed’ to discuss evidence in the report which supposedly pointed to Russian
involvement, which according to McAfee actually vindicates Moscow.

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Top spy accuses RT of influencing elections by its reporting

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Published on 5 Jan 2017

Outgoing Director of National Intelligence James Clapper spoke today at a Congressional
Armed Services Committee hearing regarding cybersecurity and alleged Russian interference
in the 2016 US election. It was made abundantly clear that the US does not allege that Russia
altered the votes cast on Election Day. However, he accused RT of influencing the outcome
of the 2016 presidential election by reporting on problems in the US. RT correspondent Caleb
Maupin brings us the details. After that, former diplomat Jim Jatras tells RT’s Ashlee Banks
accusations are flying without proof.

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Why some guests are fleeing

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Published on 5 Jan 2017

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Hannity: Democrats ignored cybersecurity until Hillary lost

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Published on 5 Jan 2017

What has the Obama administration done in the past 8 years to stop cyberattacks
on U.S. government agencies?

Assange: Secrecy leads to incompetence in government

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Published on 5 Jan 2017
WikiLeaks founder discusses his efforts to bring transparency to governments on 'Hannity'

Cidersomerset

6th January 2017, 12:01

‘Surreal echo chamber’: Watch ‘Russia hacked US’ narrative challenged in RT debate

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Published on 5 Jan 2017

The US intelligence community unanimously believes that Russia interfered with
US election through hacking and other means, the US Senate heard on Thursday.
RT assembled a panel of renowned journalists - with widely differing opinions -
to try and separate fact from fiction.
Media analyst Lionel, political opinion writer and columnist for The Hill, Brent Budowsky,
and Daniel McAdams, executive director at the Ron Paul institute, joined RT host Neil
Harvey to discuss the hearing in Congress over the alleged “Russian hacking” claims.

Cidersomerset

6th January 2017, 12:09

Glenn Greenwald on "Dearth of Evidence" Linking Russia to WikiLeaks Release of DNC Emails

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Published on 5 Jan 2017

http://democracynow.org - We speak with Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter Glenn Greenwald as
the Senate Armed Services Committee holds a hearing on alleged Russian cyber-attacks and
top intelligence officials are briefing President Obama on a review of evidence that Russia
hacked the email servers of the Democratic National Committee. President-elect Trump will
be briefed on Friday. This comes as he is supporting statements by WikiLeaks founder Julian
Assange that Russia was not the source for the mass leak of emails from the Democratic Party.

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CIA NN...Intel chiefs' take on Trump

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Published on 6 Jan 2017
President-elect Donald Trump is set to receive his intelligence briefing about the
alleged Russian hack into the 2016 presidential election.

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All the mainstream media seem to swallowing the political line...

U.S. Intel Chiefs Discuss Russian Hacking, Donald Trump In Senate Hearing | NBC Nightly News

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Published on 6 Jan 2017

President-elect Donald Trump is set to receive his intelligence briefing about the
alleged Russian hack into the 2016 presidential election.

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Trump election: US 'identifies agents behind Russian hack'

The US has identified the Russian agents behind alleged hacking ahead of the
presidential election won by Donald Trump in November, reports say.

The agents, whose names have not been released, are alleged to have sent stolen
Democratic emails to WikiLeaks to try to swing the vote for Mr Trump.

Russia denies any involvement and WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange says Moscow
was not the source.

Intelligence officials are due to brief Mr Trump, who doubts the claims, later.

Vice-President Joe Biden lambasted the president-elect on Thursday for attacking
the intelligence community over the claims, saying it was "absolutely mindless" not
to have faith in the agencies.

read more....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38528329

Chester

6th January 2017, 12:40

Has anyone ever noticed the "smug smirk routine?" Has anyone ever noticed debate responses stating "That's just laughable?" Has anyone noticed the outright "laughing off" response used as a tactic to sway the opinions of viewers? If so, one might also observe that this tactic seems related to desperation. Desperation occurs when the attempt to make one's point is no longer achievable by honest, fact based, healthy debate.

Has anyone noticed the massive rise of this form of "tell" over the last several months and especially in the last few weeks?

Has anyone noticed the common denominator in almost all cases when this tactic has been employed?

turiya

6th January 2017, 12:42

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The dishonest media does not report that any
money spent on building the Great Wall (for
sake of speed), will be paid back by Mexico
later!

3:19 AM - 6 Jan 2017

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Hillary and the Dems were never going to beat
the PASSION of my voters. They saw what
was happening in the last two weeks before
the......

3:39 AM - 6 Jan 2017

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and knew they were in big trouble - which is
why they cancelled their big fireworks at the
last minute.THEY SAW A MOVEMENT
LIKE NEVER BEFORE

3:45 AM - 6 Jan 2017

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Hopefully, all supporters, and those who want
to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will go to
D.C. on January 20th. It will be a GREAT
SHOW!

4:05 AM - 6 Jan 2017

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Cidersomerset

6th January 2017, 13:05

Has anyone ever noticed the "smug smirk routine?"

It looks like they have a couple of names , possibly fabrigated ? but
it will be hard to deny without flat out calling the intel agencies liars...

Hence the smug faces ?

The agents, whose names have not been released, are alleged to have sent stolen
Democratic emails to WikiLeaks to try to swing the vote for Mr Trump.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38528329

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The neo-cons/dems and mainstream are stressing 'ACT OF WAR' !

When at the worst spying and hacking are going on by all intel agents daily
especially in the US.........Read any recent spy noval or movie usually based
on material from ex intel agents , hacking is usually a major part of the plot over
the past 20 years or more..........:spy::spy::spy::spy:

Former CIA officer on hacking investigation

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Published on 5 Jan 2017
President-elect Donald Trump clashed with the intelligence community over the
alleged hacking by Russia. Congressman and former CIA officer Will Hurd shared
his perspective on the investigation.

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McCain is bias and should not be on this committee , total conflict of interest against Russia....

Basically the Neo -Cons/dems led by Graham and McCain want to go to war with
somebody ................first Georgia , Crimea , Donbas and now Syria, the 'Hawks'
are furious with Putin.....

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7m7eYgZ2iDM/V2MQOtUF4cI/AAAAAAAACo8/qJfBuseDNtovPdRtlX9MLo28N9QHBYv7ACLcB/s640/McCain%2BBelhaj%2BTerrorists.jpg

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http://mirrorspectrum.com/spectrum/john-mccain-admits-to-communication-with-rebels-consistently-video#

Actual interview......This is before Hannity's recent 'enlightenment'....:Angel:

Senator McCain Informs Foxnews That He Is Intimate With #ISIS

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Published on 16 Sep 2014
Pro war propagandist Sean Hannity asks senator john mccain on his reaction to
Rand Paul's recent statements concerning ISIS. John mccain becomes visibly
agitated and vigorously retorts “Has Rand Paul ever been to Syria? Has he ever met
with ISIS?”.

Not to worry, the interview ends in a pro war propaganda love fest.

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Interesting vid on Mc Cains collaboration when a prisoner in North Vietnam...

JOHN MCCAIN BUSTED! 'MISFILED' CIA RECORDING PROVES HIS ENTIRE CAREER BUILT ON A LIE

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Published on 10 Aug 2016

Sub for more: http://nnn.is/the_new_media | An audio recording has surfaced
proving that U.S. Senator John McCain collaborated with the North Vietnamese by
recording a “Tokyo Rose”-style propaganda message that was broadcast on North
Vietnamese radio in 1969. For many years, American former P.O.W.s who were in
the “Hanoi Hilton” North Vietnamese prison with John McCain called him
a “Songbird” who collaborated with the enemy against his own country. Stewart
Rhodes joins Gary Franchi to discuss the implications,

Cidersomerset

6th January 2017, 14:12

This is a good breakdown and double meanings explained......

Senate Hearing On Russian Hacking Fail

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Published on 6 Jan 2017
The Senate hearing that we expected to produce the evidence to the claims
of Russian hacking did not produce any such thing, and continued to push it
off, but at the same time, continue to foment the false narrative.

© The Alex Jones Show Copyright 1995- 2016 All Rights Reserved.

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Tucker Carlson on the Senate hearing of top Intel. chiefs

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Published on 6 Jan 2017
'Tucker Carlson Tonight' host weighs in

Cidersomerset

6th January 2017, 16:06

CrossTalk: Targeting Russia

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Published on 6 Jan 2017
Allegations and even more allegations: weeks after Donald Trump won the
presidency the outgoing administration and some in the intelligence community,
and of course the mainstream media accuse Russia of hacking the election –
but where is the evidence?

CrossTalking with Don DeBar, Scott Rickard, and Joe Lauria.

Cidersomerset

6th January 2017, 16:24

Which one is Hillary's ?

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The two alleged hackers below have been wanted for some time conveniently..
RT News also under attack.....for raising questions about Hillary's health.....:der:
Everybody did....:confused:

Trump to Get Russia Hacking Briefing as New Details Emerge

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Published on 6 Jan 2017
The president-elect will get a classified briefing in New York on Russia's
cyber-attacks on the U.S. election.

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Sean Spicer Interview on Trump, Russia Hacking

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Published on 6 Jan 2017
Spicer, the incoming White House press secretary, tells "GMA" what to expect from
Trump's scheduled intelligence briefing on Russian hacking and Trump's
relationship with the intelligence agency chiefs.

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A little bit of fun as this is getting a bit surreal....

Back in the real cold war Spying was so much easier.....You just rang for Bond,
Smart , Ethan Hunt or the men from U.N.C.L.E and all the baddies had Russian
accents....and no ' Mission was impossible' .......This is all BS to keep the mil
ind complex and TPTB in business.....

Its more like this ,
Carry on Spying - Trailer

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Though there are real agents putting their lives on the line daily....

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OVHjPCOb3c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlSAiI3xMh4

Published on 27 Apr 2016

Academy Award®-winning director Oliver Stone, who brought Platoon, Born on the
Fourth of July, Wall Street and JFK to the big screen, tackles the most important
and fascinating true story of the 21st century. Snowden, the politically-charged,
pulse-pounding thriller starring Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Shailene Woodley,
reveals the incredible untold personal story of Edward Snowden, the polarizing
figure who exposed shocking illegal surveillance activities by the NSA and became
one of the most wanted men in the world. He is considered a hero by some, and a
traitor by others. No matter which you believe, the epic story of why he did it, who
he left behind, and how he pulled it off makes for one of the most compelling films
of the year.

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This will get those neo -con hawks McCain and Graham in a flutter...........

Duterte visits Russian warship in Manilla, Philippines

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Published on 6 Jan 2017
Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte visited the docked Russian warship Admiral
Tributs at Manila's South Harbor, Friday. Two Russian warships, the anti-submarine
ship Admiral Tributs and sea tanker Boris Butoma, are on a four-day visit to Manila
this week, the first official navy cooperation between the two countries.

Cidersomerset

6th January 2017, 18:06

CBS chipping in.....There is no 'Free thinking' in these mainstream reports....
By that I mean virtually all the mainstream I have heard are coming from
the intel services are correct , so there must be something wrong with Trump.

Except for some on Fox of course and possibly someone I have not see.But
virtually all the real questions and open discussion has come from the alternate
media....

How Trump will move forward with leaders of intel community

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Published on 6 Jan 2017
President-elect Donald Trump is set to receive evidence of Russian hacking
from U.S. intelligence officials at Trump Tower Friday. David Sanger, national
security correspondent for The New York Times, joins CBSN with the latest.

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Intel chiefs to present classified report on Russian meddling

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Published on 6 Jan 2017
U.S. intelligence officials will brief President-elect Donald Trump Friday
afternoon on the evidence that Russia meddled in the U.S. election. CBS
News senior political editor Steve Chaggaris joins CBSN with more on
what to expect in that meeting.

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Will Trump accept intelligence findings?

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Published on 6 Jan 2017
U.S. intelligence officials will brief President-elect Donald Trump Friday afternoon
on the evidence that Russia meddled in the U.S. election. CBS News senior political
editor Steve Chaggaris joins CBSN with more on what to expect in that meeting.

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ABC.......

Pelosi Calls Russian Hacking Report 'Stunning'

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Published on 6 Jan 2017
The House minority leader gave her remark after an intelligence briefing.

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Will the Donald be the new American ' Tweet heart '.......:bigsmile:

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Published on 6 Jan 2017
Fox News contributors debate criticism of president-elect's tweets

turiya

6th January 2017, 18:16

JOHN MCCAIN BUSTED! 'MISFILED' CIA RECORDING PROVES HIS ENTIRE CAREER BUILT ON A LIE

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Published on 10 Aug 2016

Sub for more: http://nnn.is/the_new_media | An audio recording has surfaced
proving that U.S. Senator John McCain collaborated with the North Vietnamese by
recording a “Tokyo Rose”-style propaganda message that was broadcast on North
Vietnamese radio in 1969. For many years, American former P.O.W.s who were in
the “Hanoi Hilton” North Vietnamese prison with John McCain called him
a “Songbird” who collaborated with the enemy against his own country. Stewart
Rhodes joins Gary Franchi to discuss the implications,

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McCain’s Largely Unreported
Treachery Against the US (http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2017/01/06/mccain-largely-unreported-treachery-against-us.html)
by Wayne MADSEN | 06.01.2017 | OPINION
Arizona’s recently re-elected Republican senator John McCain, along with his faithful «drama queen» accomplice - South Carolina senator Lindsey Graham - recently met with a contingent of Ukrainian troops at a «forward combat zone» in Shyrokyne in eastern Ukraine and publicly questioned president-elect Donald Trump’s plans to defrost America’s chilly relations with Russia. For McCain, his return to his personal war front in Ukraine came three years after he stood with Ukrainian neo-Nazis and fascists on Kiev’s Maidan Square calling for the ouster of president Viktor Yanukovych.

Meanwhile, McCain, Graham, and their neo-conservative allies within the Republican and Democratic parties, as well as press outlets like The Washington Post, have questioned Trump’s ultimate loyalty to the United States. The neocons’ angst arises from their anger over the incoming president wisely doubting the efficacy of Central Intelligence Agency «intelligence» linking Russia to a spate of computer penetrations of U.S. computer systems and networks, including pre-election hacks of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and private email of Hillary Clinton’s top campaign officials.

After President Obama expelled 35 Russian diplomats from Washington, DC and San Francisco and shut down two Russian diplomatic compounds in Maryland and New York in retaliation for unproven Russian government involvement in the hacking, McCain and his neocon war hawks doubled down by claiming that Russian hacking of U.S. computer systems amounted to an «act of war». Seizing on the neocons’ war frenzy, the CIA and Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced that Russian hackers had penetrated the electrical power grid operated by Vermont’s Burlington Electric. The Washington Post, owned by Amazon billionaire and CIA cloud computing contractor Jeff Bezos, echoed the grid hacking story as factual.

There was only one problem with the Russian electrical grid hacking headline: it was not true. Burlington Electric revealed that a laptop computer in the possession of a Burlington Electric employee, which allegedly was infected by a malware program linked by the U.S. government to Russian hackers, was never connected to the Vermont electrical grid. The laptop contained a hackers’ software package called Neutrino, which is not linked, in any way, to Russia. An attempt by the «Amazon Post» and the war hawks to pin the Vermont grid story on Russia and link it to the DNC hacking fell flat on its face.

Burlington Electric issued a statement on December 30, 2016, identifying DHS as the «boy who cried wolf» that issued the same «Russian malware» scare to electric utilities across the United States. The statement read, «Last night, U.S. utilities were alerted by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) of a malware code used in Grizzly Steppe, the name DHS has applied to a Russian campaign linked to recent hacks. We acted quickly to scan all computers in our system for the malware signature. We detected the malware in a single Burlington Electric Department laptop not connected to our organization’s grid systems».

It turned out that Ukraine, the country where McCain, Graham, and Minnesota’s rather myopic Democratic senator Amy Klobuchar were kibitzing with army troops and neo-Nazi armed militia members over the holidays, was the source of the malware hacking program used to hack into DNC computers. The Washington Post was also forced to shamefully retract its grid hacking story. The episode was yet another example of the haste at which the outgoing Obama administration and the neocon toadies in the Republican Party led by McCain were apt to blame any bad news on «the Russians». It was as if the Cold War witch hunter senator Joseph McCarthy had met the Keystone Kops. The situation would have been funny had it not been for the fact that the actions of Obama and the neocons propelled the world closer to cataclysmic warfare with the likes of McCain, Graham, and others beating the war drums.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation and DHS amateurishly coined the alleged Russian hacking of the DNC computers with the cover term «Grizzly Steppe», a code phrase that would have been rejected by any legitimate Hollywood movie script writer as being too cartoonish and campy. Moreover, the malware used in the hacking of the Democrats’ computers was an antiquated version of PHP, a program originally designed for personal home pages, hence the abbreviation PHP, but which now stands for «PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor».

The PHP malware was found to be freely distributed by a Ukrainian hacker group as a hackers’ tool. Although the FBI, DHS, and CIA did not bother to investigate whether the Ukrainian hackers were linked to McCain’s and Graham’s friends in the Ukrainian intelligence service, the Ukrainians would have had every reason to initiate a further damaging fracture in relations between the United States and Russia. Furthermore, the Ukrainians could have availed themselves of «network weaving» tools to run their malware through servers in Russia.

In fact, the amateurish FBI/DHS «Grizzly Steppe» report found that the Ukrainian malware, later blamed on the Russians, had passed through the IP addresses of 389 organizations in 61 different countries. None of the 389 malware pass-through IPs, including those of the University of Michigan; University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill; Clarkson University in Potsdam, New York; Datasource AG in Ingmarso, Sweden; Hunenberg, Switzerland; Kustbandet AB in Johannes Kepler University in Linz, Austria; Voxility S.R.L. of Bucharest; and Amazon.com – the company owned by none other than [I]Washington Post owner and CIA contractor Mr. Bezos! – were linked to the Russian government. These include the United States, Ukraine, Russia, China, France, Germany, Seychelles, Moldova, Finland, Estonia, Lithuania, Poland, Montenegro, Romania, and Israel. Such a rich global network, which included several TOR anonymous browsing gateways, would have provided more than ample network weaving opportunities to mask the original Ukrainian digital fingerprints on the actual hacking of DNC computers.

The malware program, called P.A.S. version 3.1.7., is contained in a web shell of PHP code. The malware program states that it is «Made in Ukraine» and the date of the program, 2011-2016 is followed by the letters «UA,» the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) two-letter code for Ukraine

In eastern Ukraine, standing alongside a camouflage-festooned chocolate mogul president Petro Poroshenko, McCain and Graham accused Russia of «attacking» the United States, with Graham accusing Russian President Vladimir Putin of «hacking our election». Both called for increased sanctions against Russia. However, the sum-total of computer security knowledge of these two Republican fossils would not exceed that possessed by a kindergarten student in Arizona or South Carolina.

Rather than accuse other Americans, including Mr. Trump, of engaging in potentially treasonous activities, perhaps Mr. McCain should recall the charges made by several U.S. prisoners-of-war about his «singing» to his North Vietnamese captors after his plane was shot down over Hanoi in October 1967. McCain, according to some fellow POWs who later spoke out, gladly gave his captors about six months’ worth of U.S. Navy operational plans for the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos. McCain’s psychosis about Russia reportedly could stem from his time at the «Hanoi Hilton» POW prison. McCain was given the Russian KGB code name «Jack Mouse» and, per Chan Chong Duet, the commander of the prison, the downed Navy pilot and son of the U.S. Pacific Forces Commander, Admiral John McCain, Jr., was quite free with the information he passed to North Vietnamese, Cuban, and Soviet officers while being treated for his wounds by Soviet doctors. If McCain wants to question the loyalty of any American, he should look into a mirror. He should also seek out psychiatric assistance.

Madsen Report (http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2017/01/06/mccain-largely-unreported-treachery-against-us.html)