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Zampano
17th May 2016, 19:02
Here is an excellent piece from Richard Dolan-fairly new, beginning of May 2016

In a nutshell...

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Universal Philosophy, Technology, AI, Interstellar Travelling, Percveiving Reality, Space/Time Paradigm.

The Ufo phenomena, I see it as a "broaden your horizon" thing-wordly and spiritually.
Move on, nothing to see here folks.
Just that we are not the only ones out there...whether in physical form or etheric.
Let it sink in your being

Zampano
17th May 2016, 19:34
Most of the time, I got irritated from all the abduction experiences I was watching on youtube and so on.
When I now look back, I had my ufo sightings/interactions, when I was developing myself spiritually.

I dont want to put others experiences down, when I post something like that.
Or hearing from Breakawy civilations, Cosmic wars, dark projects..so on and so forth.

Its just my view for now, we are all expanding our consciousness and intellectual understanding every minute.
It feels like a natural organic progress...for every individual who is ready to open their eyes to the bigger picture

indigopete
17th May 2016, 21:43
I like listening to Richard Dolan and find him an inspiring orator. But I think one has to at least consider the idea that he's got his dog food analogy the wrong way around.

In my view, the thesis that aliens come from other star systems is the analog of the dog with no concept of the manufacturing plant. The dog sees a can and it sees food coming out of the can. People see strange things on earth and they see the stars, so they assume the "strange things" must come from the stars.

There's no leap of consciousness there. No acknowledgement of the complexity of known reality - never mind the unknown reality. No imaginative reflection required - as would be for the dog to conceive of a food manufacturing process.

Another thing he says which is very misleading is that "we're looking at in our own society, maybe another generation or two when it [interstellar travel] will be feasible". I think he must be alluding there to the 'secret space' program because as far as non-secret ones are concerned, we're looking at another generation or two before getting to the moon will be feasible if the latest Chinese estimates are anything to go by.

Like I say, I like Dolan and I think he's well meaning, but we need to stop indulging each other so much and start using some imagination IMO instead of just dumping all problems in a big bucket that says "they-advanced-technology", "we-not".

It isn't feasable to go to other star systems in a physical craft and it wont be in 1, two three or four generation's time. That little insight didn't come from ignorance of the dogfood manufacturing plant, it came from knowledge of it - and fairly recent knowledge at that. For most of human evolution it was taken as a given that all strange phenomena emanated form the heavens.

I don't discount the idea that ET's are somehow 'other worldy' as Richard suggests and he is always refreshingly respectful and open minded about all views. But I do think the prospect that the phenomenon originates a whole lot more closer to home deserves far more attention than it's been getting the last 40 years.

Wide-Eyed
18th May 2016, 01:46
I like listening to Richard Dolan and find him an inspiring orator. But I think one has to at least consider the idea that he's got his dog food analogy the wrong way around.

In my view, the thesis that aliens come from other star systems is the analog of the dog with no concept of the manufacturing plant. The dog sees a can and it sees food coming out of the can. People see strange things on earth and they see the stars, so they assume the "strange things" must come from the stars.

There's no leap of consciousness there. No acknowledgement of the complexity of known reality - never mind the unknown reality. No imaginative reflection required - as would be for the dog to conceive of a food manufacturing process.

Another thing he says which is very misleading is that "we're looking at in our own society, maybe another generation or two when it [interstellar travel] will be feasible". I think he must be alluding there to the 'secret space' program because as far as non-secret ones are concerned, we're looking at another generation or two before getting to the moon will be feasible if the latest Chinese estimates are anything to go by.

Like I say, I like Dolan and I think he's well meaning, but we need to stop indulging each other so much and start using some imagination IMO instead of just dumping all problems in a big bucket that says "they-advanced-technology", "we-not".

It isn't feasable to go to other star systems in a physical craft and it wont be in 1, two three or four generation's time. That little insight didn't come from ignorance of the dogfood manufacturing plant, it came from knowledge of it - and fairly recent knowledge at that. For most of human evolution it was taken as a given that all strange phenomena emanated form the heavens.

I don't discount the idea that ET's are somehow 'other worldy' as Richard suggests and he is always refreshingly respectful and open minded about all views. But I do think the prospect that the phenomenon originates a whole lot more closer to home deserves far more attention than it's been getting the last 40 years.

Indigo, Isn't Richard Dolan a published researcher? I don't view him or read his research thinking of him as an' inspiring orator' but more as serious or responsible researcher probably with over 10,000 hours researching. Some say that is an" expert " place of stasis in any discipline hoops ,billiards, or just orating .

barneythez
18th May 2016, 02:01
I think he needs to spend some time with Bashar

indigopete
18th May 2016, 08:11
I think he needs to spend some time with Bashar

Bashar's accounts of reality IMO square more with the concept of "inner space" than outer. The fact that reality takes place "within our consciousnesses and not outside".

Again - that view agrees with Einstein's observations, that reality is relative, not absolute and that you've got more chance of getting to another star system by sitting meditating than you so by jumping in a rotating tin can.

When I was a young kid I used to get very powerful hallucinations whenever I had the flu. I grew out of it from about 12 but I can still remember the sensation of total oblivion with my eyes wide open - of seeing the things around me but interpreting them in wildly different ways. Like one minute a table was a table, the next it was the U.S. Cavalry chasing after me, even though it still had the shape of a table. I had loads of visions like that which were as real as the day is long. One of a woman's head with long flowing brown hair floating along the sky about 200 feet above me, looking down at me. They totally freaked me out and I've rarely known such a sense of fear or discomfort since, but as the fever started to wear off to a point where they were mild enough for me to take control of them rather than them of me, I'd start to play with the sensations and explore them more.

Reality is only as real as its interpretation and if enough people share the same interpretation, that will become the new "reality" - almost by definition. Thats why I maintain (and have expressed this in my other posts on this subject) that the route to other star systems is through the evolution of consciousness, not technology and if ETs are here then I posit that they appear in our minds, not in physical craft.

Concepts of "ships" and "interdimensional portals" IMO are physical 3D, Hollywood concepts projected onto a hyperdimensional reality. To actually experience one you just need to either die or take some mushrooms. You don't need a UFO.