'The Event' - What's all this about?

[OMG]

We can clearly see by the numerous topics about ”THE EVENT” that there is a plethora of healthy skepticism against it.

But let’s take a different approach. What “evidence/scenario” would compel YOU enough to believe that such a thing is possible or even likely?

I’m NOT looking for why you don’t believe in it. I’m looking for why you could believe in it.

Please be as concise as possible.

:)

[Cidersomerset]

Which 'Event' have you in mind ?

There was a odd TV show about five years ago that got cancelled after season
one just as it was getting good with the arrival of another planet close to Earth.


The Event: Arrival

http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-OA443_event1_E_20110524082031.jpg

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Uploaded on 26 May 2011

Instead of bringing her people here, Sophia brings her ENTIRE planet. We learn
what The 'Event' is, as well as we find out a main character is also an alien,
which we did not completely expect.

[OMG]

THE EVENT that supersedes ALL events.

http://prepareforchange.net/the-event/

COBRA - Yes, of course. The event is the moment of the compression breakthrough. The compression breakthrough is when the light forces from above the surface of the planet and from below the surface of the planet meet in the middle that is on the surface of the planet. I hope that we all agree that there are certain factions that support the light and support the liberation that exists inside of the solar system. There are some factions that support the light and the liberation of the planet that are existing below the surface. They’re progressing towards the surface of the planet because the surface of the planet is the main battleground is the main focus of all this situation that is not just limited to the planet Earth. When this breakthrough happens, this is what we term the Event. The Event is actually many things at the same moment. It is when the light forces take over the mass media and release intel about ET involvement, about the crimes of the Cabal, about the advanced technologies, so FULL disclosure. This is part of it. The other part of it is the mass arrest of the Cabal. The other part of it is Financial re-set that the Eastern alliance has been preparing for quite a long time. And of course we have been gradually going towards the first contact which is an actual official contact between the earth civilization and other positive ET races that exist throughout the galaxy. And the Event is a trigger point which begins that process. That’s the short overview of what the Event is. And of course we have the pulse from the galactic central sun. The galactic central sun is a living entity and it times the pulse of energy according to our global awareness and the level of that awareness and the level of the awakening. And when we have this compression breakthrough the level of awakening is high enough for humanity to receive that pulse of increased energy from the galactic center.

http://2012portal.blogspot.com/2016/05/joint-cobra-corey-goode-interview-by.html

[Bill Ryan]

why you could believe in it.



Here's why:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90798-The-event-is-coming-soon......&p=1069651&viewfull=1#post1069651




It's like a bunch of kids are working really hard together at their math homework. It's difficult, but they're getting through it, getting things right, and learning.

Then someone rushes in the room and tells them there's a Pink Elephant dancing a piroutte on the front lawn. REALLY! COME QUICK!

Half the kids abandon the homework, and run off down the street looking for the Pink Elephant... which (darn it!) must just have left before they got a chance to see it.

:)

Why? People (adults, too) desperately want the Pink Elephant to be real.

[OMG]

Hmm, a pink elephant lol...

People could say that about any conspiracy theory. Looking for a bit more substance...

But that was funny.

[Bill Ryan]

Hmm, a pink elephant lol...

People could say that about any conspiracy theory. Looking for a bit more substance...

But that was funny.

Real, too. :)

People WANT to believe in fantasy. It's sugar-coated escapism. The hard reality (like math homework) is much harder to face up to. The analogy was a serious one.

[Ted]

We can clearly see by the numerous topics about ”THE EVENT” that there is a plethora of healthy skepticism against it.

But let’s take a different approach. What “evidence/scenario” would compel YOU enough to believe that such a thing is possible or even likely?

I’m NOT looking for why you don’t believe in it. I’m looking for why you could believe in it.

Please be as concise as possible.

:)

I will believe it if and when it happens.

[Innocent Warrior]

Bill's analogy is full of substance. If we don't do our math homework, how will we ever become physicists? Are we going to continue to allow others to be physicists for us? How has that worked for us so far? Nothing benevolent is going show up so we don't have to do our homework, not even a central sun, perhaps it could, many things could, but they won't. It's time to grow up.

[Agape]

You meet outside what is in you . If you're bound to crash to an event that had to be somehow , your choice .

Now that you were chosen .. :) it's time to walk after the great sunset till it lasts ...

[ljwheat]

Threw out antiquate, and beyond, the climax of the mind or body, drugs, sex, meditations, the mind has,, and will create,, cults, religions, movements, events, ET's, Gods, story's real or imagined, are always left with the be-leaver's hearing and understanding according to his or her need at that moment of question in the endless mind..

I would ask a Writer of fiction or fact, how the mind can run it seem with out end of baselines, just like endless time lines or ending.. basically, critically, or tragically, the mind, given enough time can and will create all things or no thing.. Who has gone threw a EVENT first person, and can give account of such a thing..... NONE ? to ask a question about a question is really stretching the mind of i want to believe can you help me.. ????

a bottomless rabbit hole has no end , but you ask why am i still falling? and that is what eternity with out end is too. Entertainment, the joy of the endless ride, finding there is no end, every day leads into the next with out seams or gaps, all ways present in the now, yet the mind can follow thoughts or story's till the camp fire go's out. or do you keep adding logs to the fire, if its your fire? Has it append yet ? will it happen? or is it just thought? wanting it to happen? kYK_HQSYCJM

http://www.tcwblog.com/182861428 or you can just google it in a search engine ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Days_of_Darkness

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronicle_of_Current_Events

:juggle:

[OMG]

Let's stay focused here.

Again, not looking for reasons why the EVENT might be a fantasy, etc. I'm looking for reasons why it could be true.

Here's some loose example's of what I'm asking for.

1. Corey is a proponent of SOME aspects that align with THE EVENT. Corey Goode made unique claims about The Secret Space Program (SSP) and because he had no supporting evidence people assume he is a hoax or disinfo agent, among other credible reasons.

But even if a person is a "liar" it doesn't mean everything they say is a lie. Not too long ago there was a man who is now in his 90's who worked for covert agencies. This man's name is William Thompkins and he has provided supporting evidence to some of what Corey has said about the SSP, even so far as to use the same term "Solar Warden", etc.

http://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/the-amazing-story-continues-part1.html
http://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/the-amazing-story-continues-part2.html

2. 911 was an inside job because...(this is "after the fact" I realize, but it shows a concise summary which is what I was hoping for)
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/01/18/24-hard-facts-about-911-that-cannot-be-debunked/

[Bill Ryan]

Let's stay focused here.

Again, not looking for reasons why the EVENT might be a fantasy, etc. I'm looking for reasons why it could be true.

I responded with my Pink Elephant fable because you'd asked


I’m looking for why you could believe in it.

Now, the only way something like this could happen (as best I can see) would be if a capable, influential and highly organized race of benevolent ETs had decided to intervene to assist. That has to be theoretically possible, but only if we're really on the brink of something pretty irreversibly bad — and even then, they may well just observe and pick up the pieces afterwards.

Having said that, you've not defined what 'The Event' is. :) Can you do that? if you're not explaining what this is, it's kind of hard to answer the question any better. (Cobra's account is a whole HERD of Pink Elephants, all dancing on the lawn together at once.)

Nothing magical will occur, that's for sure. 'Three Days of Darkness' is physically impossible. All ascension myths are just that (the Pink Elephant now morphing into the Tooth Fairy, leaving special gifts under your personal pillow, whether you deserve them or not).

Important to consider in all discussions like this is the Copernican Principle. If this concept is new, please read up on it.

It states (in its simplest version) that there's nothing special about our place (our physical location) in the universe. We are NOT the special center of everything, even though it may feel like it when we look up at the stars.

By analogy, there's nothing special about our place in TIME, either. This is critical to understand.

If anything that's never occurred in all of history were to occur now, in your snap-of-the-fingers-and-now-its-over brief lifetime, that'd be a very, very highly statistically unlikely coincidence.

~~~

My real problem with questions like this is that IT TAKES US OUT OF REALITY.

It's like hoping to win the lottery. No harm in buying a $1 ticket now and then, but still keep on planning for NOT winning the lottery. That means you have to keep at your job, stay in your home, continue taking responsibility for everything around you. (And that's like the math homework: sometimes that's tough, and we just want to dip out.)

Hoping every day to be rescued (by the ETs, a lottery ticket, or anything else) — is not healthy, smart, or wise.

Could it happen? Maybe. But what's the point of hoping it might happen, or (worse!) waiting for it to happen?

That's why this is a trap.

[OMG]

I provided a summary of what THE EVENT was is in my post above. Here's the link. :)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90877-THE-EVENT-Why-it-could-be-real&p=1070097&viewfull=1#post1070097

What's "magical"? Phase transition could be called magical but it's an APPLIED scientific fact (not merely theoretical such as the Copernican Principle) which could apply to humanity and social change https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_transition

Most people here probably believe in "magical" aliens. And if you do the research you have pretty convincing evidence they exist. But if there are positive aliens their agenda must have either been non-interference, or they were/are unaware of the negative cabal and it's alien influences that have done so much damage to us and the planet, etc.

THE EVENT as I understand it is meant to rectify the negative and disproportional power structure from the elite cabal and negative alien influences. It's one thing for humanity to take personal responsibility and fix their own problems (which we should, and that usually takes time and lots of sweat equity). However, it's a totally different game when the reason this can't or hasn't worked is because of the advanced cabal/alien superiority that thwarts every attempt to fix the problems.

It therefore seem reasonable to conclude that if there are negative aliens and forces at work to harm and control us that it could reach a point where positive forces intervene and assist us to fight back successfully...hence THE EVENT.

Maybe I'm too simple minded...hmmm

Love you ALL!
:)

[Michi]

Sorry - couldn't resist, but this reminds me of a small story I already posted elsewhere:


"There was a man hanging from a cliff two thousand feet above the valley floor.
The terrified man looked to the top of the cliff and screamed,
‘Is there anyone up there who can help me?’ A deep, booming reply came from above,
‘Yes, I’ll help you. I’m the Lord. Just relax and let go!’ A long pause.
‘Is there anybody else up there who can help me?’”

- from Thomas Crum’s Journey to Center

I believe, there is no magical help UNLESS oneself is at cause in the first place.
Then, miracles happen.

[Enola]

All ascension myths are just that (the Pink Elephant now morphing into the Tooth Fairy, leaving special gifts under your personal pillow, whether you deserve them or not).
........:)

[barneythez]

There are no simple minded people here on Avalon.
I wish this thread was more optimistic.
I guess I've been wishing for pink elephants. I didn't know that until now. I thought there was pot of gold out there for all of us. Maybe only when we pass from this life to the next.
I guess I'll keep my day job.

[gripreaper]

THE EVENT as I understand it is meant to rectify the negative and disproportional power structure from the elite cabal and negative alien influences. It's one thing for humanity to take personal responsibility and fix their own problems (which we should, and that usually takes time and lots of sweat equity). However, it's a totally different game when the reason this can't or hasn't worked is because of the advanced cabal/alien superiority that thwarts every attempt to fix the problems. It therefore seem reasonable to conclude that if there are negative aliens and forces at work to harm and control us that it could reach a point where positive forces intervene and assist us to fight back successfully...hence THE EVENT.

We need to have some context, some basic premises we can all agree upon, before we can speculate as to possible energetic influences in the universe. First off, these negative energies manifested as the cabal and the interloping astral energy vampiring aliens, exist in our reality because we allow these polarized states of consciousness, and their manifestations, to occur here on earth.

We encourage and support the cabal. Each year, most Americans (and other cultures too) send in close to 50% of their hard earned energetic manifestations to the cabal to wage war, to rape and pillage the planet, and to destroy humanity. WE are the reason that the cabal is so successful at vampiring our energy and using it any way they want.

Most of the gatekeepers for the cabal are our own brothers and sisters, who justify that support because they have mortgages to pay, kids to feed, and car payments to make. When anyone mentions that they are slaves to this cabal, and that they are the gatekeepers and supporters of the cabal, they sneer at you and call you a conspiracy theorist, with a tin foil hat.

So, my question to you is, why would, and why SHOULD any benevolent ET's jump in and rescue (or help) a species of beings who are reasonably content with their slavery, and don't even recognize that they are slaves, and do not even "think" they need any help?

[Jayren]

We can clearly see by the numerous topics about ”THE EVENT” that there is a plethora of healthy skepticism against it.

But let’s take a different approach. What “evidence/scenario” would compel YOU enough to believe that such a thing is possible or even likely?

I’m NOT looking for why you don’t believe in it. I’m looking for why you could believe in it.

Please be as concise as possible.

:)

The event as we term it is simply the awakening of consciousness out of the matrix, so therefore many events are going on leading to one with a single human consciousness. We are witnessing a shift. And once everybody gets this this will be the event. Any one of us can find different ways to kick start this events, it has to do with human consciousness.
Once you look at each one of us there more you start to see how connected we are in good or bad ways sometimes being neutral. People with these powers that we can't recognize our regular occurrence. We are starting to see a rise in consciousness which will make this even possible.

[Jayren]

why you could believe in it.



Here's why:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90798-The-event-is-coming-soon......&p=1069651&viewfull=1#post1069651




It's like a bunch of kids are working really hard together at their math homework. It's difficult, but they're getting through it, getting things right, and learning.

Then someone rushes in the room and tells them there's a Pink Elephant dancing a piroutte on the front lawn. REALLY! COME QUICK!

Half the kids abandon the homework, and run off down the street looking for the Pink Elephant... which (darn it!) must just have left before they got a chance to see it.

:)

Why? People (adults, too) desperately want the Pink Elephant to be real.

The event that we talk of surpasses human imagination. Do you know why? Because it cannot be imagined. It is based off of facts those facts being that wherever your mind takes you is where you are.

You can go any where you want. Humans knew better but they got interference from someone else. You are not entirely a slave puppet you were just manipulated into being one. Now that you are aware enough to see that you can go somewhere else with that thought but where will you go?

You don't think that an event will be real that it is illusioned, why is this? What is so great about the normal in the world. There are alot of things here that are considered normal that should not be normal according to our natural state of being. Now adays it's being designed so that you cannot tell the difference between what is natural nowadays and not, it is not your fault you can't tell the difference because you were taught that you were normal.. As we climb out of this ice cold box we realize we are anything but normal...

As more and more of us start to wake up and come together we are this event.. The human consciousness never stops until we realize we are anything but human, but what we were taught was human wasn't human at all. The ones hiding behind a mask and the ones taking them off. Decide which one you want to be, the ones wearing the mask or taking them off. Decide which one has more power to it, as we rise in our consciousness we connect to other people see things from a higher perspective, and deception becomes all but easier to recognize maybe we do it out of ignorance but the underlying principal is love. It's also something we need more of in this world if only people would take off there mask.

I guess when people do this we will see an event. The event I see is human consciousness expanding learning more about themselves and the people around them becoming so advanced with there heart and there minds that they can do what you would imagine in the best scenario possible.

Think of a highly advanced alien civilization that have mastered the limits of there minds until they found out that there aren't any. Might sound like a lot to do for our kind but I believe we are getting there. Question everything and do not bow to know one, not even yourself.

Imagine the soul ascending while still in a human body the body is still there the body still exist but on a lighter level if you have any questions just ask.

[white wizard]

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Here are two videos that talk about coming changes you are looking to find evidence
for. There is evidence the collective consciousness is shifting. In a completely asleep
nation, Trump would have never made it to the republican nominee. Most people can
agree that Americans are frustrated with the flow of things. This could be related
to the fact more people are waking up to the the realization something is very wrong
with our political system. This election is shaking the foundations of the political
landscape, and I've never seen such panic in the political establishments. I was
watching the news, and there attacking Trump with such viciousness that it is
blatantly obvious the left and right are both out to stop him. If he does get elected
which is starting to look more probable, than this could be a trigger event for
something. TPTB will have a hard time controlling him, and that could be a
dangerous wild card no one saw coming that could really shake things up.
Also Kerry Cassidy interviewed a former navy seal who said project looking
glass had one issue no one could solve. It predicted a awaking process to step
up after 2012, which would be big and had quite a few people in power. He
was later arrested, which is why i believe his statements probably made
someone mad. My guess is the awakening of humanity to a tipping point will
trigger an event kind of like the enlightenment several hundred years ago.

[Innocent Warrior]

Again, not looking for reasons why the EVENT might be a fantasy, etc. I'm looking for reasons why it could be true.

This -

Agape wrote:

You meet outside what is in you . If you're bound to crash to an event that had to be somehow , your choice .

IMO, for all of the following -


And of course we have the pulse from the galactic central sun. The galactic central sun is a living entity and it times the pulse of energy according to our global awareness and the level of that awareness and the level of the awakening. And when we have this compression breakthrough the level of awakening is high enough for humanity to receive that pulse of increased energy from the galactic center.

I like this, it’s elegant, but it could be brutal. It’s galactic, so if each pulse affects the entire galaxy, then the frequency of each pulse emitted would depend on the galactic awareness. Cobra said global awareness, so let’s say the central sun emits pulses which vary in frequency to accommodate all the different collectives and each collective is only affected by the frequency they resonate with. Every human would need to be resonating at a frequency high enough for nobody to be harmed by the pulse of increased energy.

Have you ever sun gazed for just a little too long? Ooph, it’s not fun. The process of awakening is excruciatingly slow, but for good reason. If a human (likely any dense physical being) was resonating at a low frequency and received a big dose of a much higher frequency of energy then it would harm them, if too high it would most likely kill them. For example, five percent of seven billion is 350 million. If a whopping 95% of humanity’s population reached a frequency high enough to be able to handle the pulse of increased energy, that still leaves 350 million people to get really sick or die (it would depend on how far off they are).

For this to happen, either everyone would need to be resonating high enough, which I can’t see happening any time soon, or many would be harmed. But hey, nature can be brutal. My previous mention of the galactic central sun still stands though, it wouldn’t be doing our homework for us, it would be a manifesting of us having done our homework.


The compression breakthrough is when the light forces from above the surface of the planet and from below the surface of the planet meet in the middle that is on the surface of the planet. I hope that we all agree that there are certain factions that support the light and support the liberation that exists inside of the solar system. There are some factions that support the light and the liberation of the planet that are existing below the surface. They’re progressing towards the surface of the planet because the surface of the planet is the main battleground is the main focus of all this situation that is not just limited to the planet Earth. When this breakthrough happens, this is what we term the Event. The Event is actually many things at the same moment. It is when the light forces take over the mass media and release intel about ET involvement, about the crimes of the Cabal, about the advanced technologies, so FULL disclosure. This is part of it. The other part of it is the mass arrest of the Cabal. The other part of it is Financial re-set that the Eastern alliance has been preparing for quite a long time. And of course we have been gradually going towards the first contact which is an actual official contact between the earth civilization and other positive ET races that exist throughout the galaxy. And the Event is a trigger point which begins that process.

Again, for this to happen, it would have to manifest as an effect of our doing. As above, so below. He’s discussing events involving OUR collective, the above in this scenario is US, not the light forces from above or below the surface of the planet, they would only be an outer reflection of the true force of the event.

[Lifebringer]

I think he event is Nibiru's crossover effects.

[OMG]

So, my question to you is, why would, and why SHOULD any benevolent ET's jump in and rescue (or help) a species of beings who are reasonably content with their slavery, and don't even recognize that they are slaves, and do not even "think" they need any help?

Many responses here are not following the purpose of this thread...ugh :facepalm:

This thread wasn't created to argue reasons why the EVENT can't exist'. Nor was it intended to be a platform for answering questions.

But I will attempt to response to your question above since my answer may elucidate a relevant principle on why THE EVENT is even a consideration.

Consider, if there are advanced negative alien races who are working behind the scenes here on earth to manipulate and control the masses into actions and behaviors that benefit them. Then use a similar comparison with how easily it would be for modern human covert agencies to trick primitive tribes into believing in all sorts of things. Now imagine how much easier advance beings could manipulate and engineer our society.

As such, it's possible that humanity is the way it is due to said manipulation.

Of course we could argue that humans are inherently negative and all of the bad things are strictly a result of our actions alone.

[OMG]

There are no simple minded people here on Avalon.
I wish this thread was more optimistic.
I guess I've been wishing for pink elephants. I didn't know that until now. I thought there was pot of gold out there for all of us. Maybe only when we pass from this life to the next.
I guess I'll keep my day job.

I'M VERY OPTIMISTIC! :)

But yes, definitely keep your day job! If anything changes you'll know...LOL.

[gripreaper]

I'll try and say it simpler. The event is the awakening of consciousness and humanity taking ownership for the way things are because things are the way they are because humanity wants them that way.

There is no "out there" in electromagnetic polarized consciousness. Positive and negative are just opposites and are neither good or bad, they are held in consciousness by our beliefs and because we want them.

Own it and you wont need an event.

[Innocent Warrior]

Many responses here are not following the purpose of this thread...ugh

In all fairness, the directives in the OP were inadequately supported by informative material, and this -


1. Corey is a proponent of SOME aspects that align with THE EVENT. Corey Goode made unique claims about The Secret Space Program (SSP) and because he had no supporting evidence people assume he is a hoax or disinfo agent, among other credible reasons.

But even if a person is a "liar" it doesn't mean everything they say is a lie. Not too long ago there was a man who is now in his 90's who worked for covert agencies. This man's name is William Thompkins and he has provided supporting evidence to some of what Corey has said about the SSP, even so far as to use the same term "Solar Warden", etc.

was not a credible example. There are so many amazing people who dedicate themselves to be as true as possible, surely there are more credible examples.

[OMG]

I'll try and say it simpler. The event is the awakening of consciousness and humanity taking ownership for the way things are because things are the way they are because humanity wants them that way.

There is no "out there" in electromagnetic polarized consciousness. Positive and negative and just opposites and are neither good or bad, they are held in consciousness by our beliefs and because we want them.

Own it and you wont need an event.

I understand the premise that mind precedes matter, etc. But I don't personally want lots of things that happen. Nor do I contribute to such things on a conscious level.

So before people get caught up in the premise that we are creating all of the crap that's happening to us maybe we should examine if this is true through using a simpler and testable model.

For example, if you can personally "intend" something to manifest according to your will and at your beckon call, without the conventional time delays that manifesting things here on earth normally take, then I'd be apt to concede that your theory has applicable substance.

:)

[OMG]

Many responses here are not following the purpose of this thread...ugh

In all fairness, the directives in the OP were inadequately supported by informative material, and this -


1. Corey is a proponent of SOME aspects that align with THE EVENT. Corey Goode made unique claims about The Secret Space Program (SSP) and because he had no supporting evidence people assume he is a hoax or disinfo agent, among other credible reasons.

But even if a person is a "liar" it doesn't mean everything they say is a lie. Not too long ago there was a man who is now in his 90's who worked for covert agencies. This man's name is William Thompkins and he has provided supporting evidence to some of what Corey has said about the SSP, even so far as to use the same term "Solar Warden", etc.

was not a credible example. There are so many amazing people who dedicate themselves to be as true as possible, surely there are more credible examples.

I used Corey only because he has a direct correlation to THE EVENT. I'm not sure if these "amazing people" you might be referring to have any direct connection to THE EVENT. Others relevant "insiders" with a direct connection are people like COBRA, Drake Bailey, the Dragon Amassador, and Ben Fulford.

And the 911 example was only used to show an example of a potential response scenario. As well as making the point that just because people think something may be a silly conspiracy doesn't mean it is.

Thank you
:)

[Bill Ryan]

Corey [ ... ] other relevant "insiders" with a direct connection are people like COBRA, Drake Bailey, the Dragon Amassador, and Ben Fulford.



The problem is that the jury hearing your case would at that point dismiss it. :)

Not trying to make light of this, or to make fun of you. Really. Your sincerity (and frustration, urging people to listen!) shines through. :star:

But none of your witnesses there are credible sources, of anything whatsoever. Rather, collectively, they've between them done a LOT of damage to the alternative community, and its coherence, sanity, and credibility.

I mean that TOTALLY seriously. This thread is not the place to go into an analysis (you don't want that!), but between them there is a huge amount of delusion, fabrication, and, not at all impossibly, one or two paychecks too.

So if they're supporting the idea of an 'event', hanging there in the future as something to save us all without any of us having to take any responsibility whatsoever, or do any work at all, you can bet all you own that nothing like that will ever happen.

It's just juicy bait on a conceptual hook to get you reeled to somewhere else than where you should be swimming strongly and freely, under your very own power.

I urge you to be more discriminating and careful with what you believe... beliefs are ALWAYS used to entrap human beings, since the dawn of history. The reason that works so effectively is the reason it's still rolled out now.

[Innocent Warrior]

I used Corey only because he has a direct correlation to THE EVENT.

OK.


I'm not sure if these "amazing people" you might be referring to have any direct connection to THE EVENT

Probably not.

Apologies for the distraction.

[KiwiElf]

We also need to weary of throwing the baby out with the bathwater and dismissing all of it instead of just some of it.

[Daozen]

This is what I was thinking KiwiElf, there are many subtle points in this discussion. What if all the 2012"leaders" mentioned in this thread were unknowingly, but actively, involved in slowing down our progress as a species, and therefore delaying any liberating efforts?

*

It is possible there could be an explosion of consciousness on this planet, why not? We are living in unprecedented times.

But...

The proponents of mainstream Event theory want us to exchange Barack Obama, The World Bank, a corrupt western elite and overpriced pharmaceuticals for....(drum roll) Vladimir Putin, The AIIB, a corrupt eastern elite and overpriced healing devices, some costing up to 1700USD. How is that a step forward for humanity?

If we want to trigger a global awakening in our collective consciousness we will have to snowball towards maturity in all aspects of life; farming, water supplies, finance, medicine, politics. And therein lies the big joke; All the strategies of the 2012 pretenders are tailor made to keep people on a treadmill, grasping for the dangling cybernetic carrot. Does that speed things up or slow them down?

Bill used the dancing pink elephant metaphor. I dreamt a more sinister analogy; What if there was an an earthquake on an abandoned isle? Buildings collapse, and the community comes to help dig out the survivors.

For some reason, a secret dark sect does not want all the survivors to emerge from the rubble. Maybe there are some powerful benevolent sorcerers trapped under the fallen buildings. Can the dark power intervene directly? No, that would be too obvious, and dangerous. Their only hope to hamper the rescue effort is to make the rescue crews lazy, distracted and lethargic.

The sect brainstorms for two days, and decides to continually broadcast radio messages of "hope":

"All the earthquake survivors have been found. Be in joy. Victory is ours. The government rescue mission will be here in 12 hours". This goes on for weeks. When people start to realize these promises are false, the sect sprays the town with a benign nerve agent, a lighter-than-air gas that causes euphoria and hallucinations...

The rescue workers inhale the gas and lie down and relax, blissful expressions on their faces. :sun: The work is done. The government will be here soon. Be in joy. :sun:

Today's alt media works along similar lines. Humanity is buried under an economic Earthquake, and these self-certified revolutionaries are making promises they can't keep. This stops people from getting out there and doing their best right now.

So could "The Event" happen? Absolutely, I don't discount any possibility, I would love it if we were released from the Mordorish structure that surrounds us, but the "insiders" you have mentioned have sadly turned a great many potential liberators into neutered beggars. This only weakens our collective resonance as a species. Which slows down the timeline. Which keeps humanity trapped.

My skepticism is not aimed at the notion of an Event, but at the sincerity, integrity and competence of those who claim to be working towards it. It's also dangerous to presume on any timeframe. That is a recipe for a wasted life. Bettyeye (I can't remember how to spell her name) was clear that NESARA scams have been ongoing since the mid-eighties.

If we want liberation to happen, we have to reach critical mass. You cannot hit tipping point if you are stuck on a treadmill inhaling laughing gas.

[StandingWave]

All over the planet individuals are waking up at various levels to the reality of their direct involvement in this most terrible situation in which we have been trapped.

One person may walk onto a beach early in the morning to see many whale bodies, some still alive but flailing as life is extinguished - would one be the same 'person' after that sight as before?

When we become aware that the very lifestyle we so cherish as evidencing the pinnacle of evolution is the precise means by which the wholesale destruction of our environment - our very soul - is being carried out, then the world will change and change in an instant. Individuals who become aware of these facts and change to accomodate a new worldview will be in an extreme minority at first and sharply criticized, even alienated from friends and family but there is evidently a steady, inexorable and exponential shift in perceptions happening in every individual's life. The trigger will be different, perhaps even mundane yet equally effective at each particular human node.

It happened for me through reading a book I had randomly chosen for holiday reading in 1999. I'd say that each of us here in Avalon have a story to tell of our particular trigger.

'The Event' is when this process reaches critical mass and a sudden, inexplicable solidarity of view crystalises in the population at large to oppose and question every aspect of what we have all taken for granted our whole lives. It is an individual epiphany in the timeless Now that mounts and accelerates toward asymptote across the multidude of human nodes, ultimately touching every individual, suddenly and unexpectedly - an event horizon on the black whole of our awakening conscience.

[Mutchie]

Corey has lost all credibility with ME .... I worry about some of the content i see on our forum lately i understand the members are SINCERE when posting

but the net is utterly awash with disinformation of late and it is very easy to fall into one of these subjects .... I urge our members to be vigilant

I myself have been down a few rabbit holes that were not based in reality like the 2012 event & the world ending " i wandered could it be possible "

Now im embarrased to admit that .... im sorry for going off subject folks !!!

[KiwiElf]

I think the most frustrating thing in all of this, is the future timing that never happens. ALL of these "events" are possible at some point in time, which could be today or in a thousand years.

Second most frustrating thing is discerning the "some" and "maybe" aspects: which parts are true or real, and which parts aren't. [rhetorical questions]. I frequently - as you know - am present on the Fulford Reports and regularly contribute to them. That doesn't make me a believer. The fact is, it's out there - it's part of the collective "WHOLE". I'd be doing myself a dis-service by completely ignoring it. I monitor... ALL of it. Just as I do watch the MSM to check out the latest spin, but it's not ALL BS.

When you weed the garden, you first have to know what the weeds are and what the valuable plants are. Ignoring the weeds won't make them go away. ;)

:focus:

[Agape]

Can't believe how much craziness can fit in to one little place ..

and all the people who came to promise 'something tangible' will happen to save the human race .

It's happened already and if you're taking me lightly because i'm light that's your own human problem , being dense .
I've offered to explain the science part to scientist , i did not offer to boast on forums and argue for who media personality are more correct .
But oh , everyone has misheard me . Oh , it did not happen =>to you :sun: But we are now all suffering the consequences and believe me when I say the last thing we need is another EVENT.


From credible, objective, scientific perspective , it's as if the public awareness learned NOTHING over the years , and decades .
From Billy Meier down to Blossom Godchild or Corey Good through Dr Greer and so called 'big government conspiracy' ,
you're searching for something dense , on the human level of density and if you can't find it you better believe it's hidden .

You just don't get that . The 'mainstream scientific community' is much to blame in this game because they should remain what they call for and remain free of prejudice and academic bias and explain at least that what's 'invisible' or immediately 'intangible' is also not automatically non-existent ,
and stop planting these fakers to social media who tell lies to make you believe the wrong thing .


If you 'want it simple' you or we , will never get there. You can and do have 'simple humans' but hardly any 'simple ET'.

To conclude my statement somewhere ...

if another EVENT happens , from human physical perspective it will be .. soul event concerning those who want to make contact .

If all you want is piece of 'alien earth' watch for the meteorites and asteroids and do the material science .
If you want 'close encounters' , cultivate the 'hidden ability' in you , your preparedness , your sovereignty , your heartfelt ethical stand , your big picture views and ability to think outside the box .

Because what you're upto ultimately is living, interactive intelligence , far more advanced than you are and there's no manual .




I had been in the EVENT (http://projectcamelotproductions.com/interviews/bodhgaya_incident/bodhgaya.html) just if you care and what followed was hard and is still hard walk and hard talk for many years and the level of human response remains astonishingly slow, low and full of uncertainty .

Sure there are people who would give everything just 'to see that' but would you wish to suffer your human collective being mean to you for the rest of your lives, I'm wondering. You're calling for truth but I don't wish that you have to see how 'truthful' people are if you bare them naked and how straight are they if there's a choice of sweets.
Your 'righteous society' , the dense society you believe in .

You just don't want it's upon your leaders decisions - believe me , you don't want to see half of your 'rich and powerful' turning mad from ET encounter because how well you respond is finally written in your biological intelligence rather than on your diplomas and pay checks.

It's bad already but it could get worse .. imagine Donald Trump and Hilary Clinton after an ET Event . It WOULD BE another Corey talking to you from the presidential post , not much better than that .


You don't want another event. Get your scientists to think out of their boxes first , to understand more about the definitions of the subtle ,
the harmonious , the advanced laws of life and the universe . Just don't come to tell me there are none and
stop making fun of it all, for starters ..

[Agape]

From what I can tell you also, over 8 years now ... the internet is NOT much better than a church, your catholic church of middle ages ,
how much does it all stand on your and mine believes ?

Just by posting here, do I believe that someone will get me right ? That someone will understand truthfulness of my testimony ?
That someone will be able to discern and put their utter subjectivity , bias on back burner ?
Do I believe that ? Did I seriously believe that ? My believes will always be filtered through the particular group leader, the internet group leader and their believes and your believes in that leader .

You don't need MK Ultra to create a church and faith for you. You don't need to call yourself 'scientists' or 'non-scientists' if most of your decisions are based on BELIEF.

You don't find many people motivated by pure curiosity, interest, open mindless and wish to know more ... no

but you find millions of people believing something and praying to the God of their 'science' ,

their immediate authority, their best friends and what they believe.

I may also believe that Bill means well with me because that's what he believes and is leaving me plenty of useful advice and information around the forum because that's what he does but where it concerns me ,
i can BELIEVE it and it's to my own harms. The real person does not have any knowledge or intuition of me but they , you all, believe you do.

Of each other and everyone else .


Whatever HAPPENS is irrelevant because the debate will go on here, with or without us and it's all about what you believe .


:angel:



I did believe someone will help me to get things right , trusted friend , yes I believed them and they wanted me to believe in them and enjoyed having me on their believes immensely , over 8 years and that's all it was about,
the safety net = the belief system . People who weigh each other over distances and electronic means by their BELIEFS. Nothing more or less .
When it comes to reality most are fake , they claim no time and interest out of sudden . They are just here to be part of the theatre .

Worse, they make you look as an actor in their drama. The drama they help to facilitate .
They don't want reality or real ET at all because they'd have to change their ways ...


it would move them if nothing else, it would offer them a mirror, perspective ,
on the lives being taken and lies being told 'in the name of humanity'.

It does not matter a lot 'who's on top' because the fact you allow someone to sit on your 'top' and make your opinion about everything you don't understand is dangerous to yourself but every other 4 year old does understand that but you don't .

And at the end of the day , it's not you anymore .. the 'you' that remains is collective self , cluster of star dust and bacterial colonies . Tons of information you can't make sense of or one sense that changes with tides ..

Congratulations : you were successfully uploaded and dissolved to the great church of internet



:raining:

[greybeard]

Agape I am aware of the truth of what you are saying.
This is why I am interested in enlightenment.
Standard advice is "Belief systems and concepts to be released"
Easier said than done down to conditioning.---If you hear something often enough chances are you will begin to believe it and what you have believe controls your actions.
Most are in denial of this and don't realize the degree to which the mind controls and is controlled.

Best wishes with love Chris

[Redstar Kachina]

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[wnlight]

I am from Missouri. You must "show me" then I will consider believing it. For me, belief does not depend upon faith, or upon desperation. However, I will keep an open mind.

Redstart Kachina, I think you are on to something.

[Enola]

I think we can also overplay the role of the dark side in it all, especially by setting it up as more powerful in our world.

Surely divine will comes into it in some way as well. "On earth we have the black lodge, and the white lodge, and a third lodge that rule them both". But I think part of it all is to make us lose all hope and see everything as dark.

There are good things being brought into this world as well and someone has to be responsible for that. Like, yesterday I saw a long commercial that spoon-fed basic yoga philosophy to the masses, and surely that's a good thing.

[Daozen]

It's one thing for humanity to take personal responsibility and fix their own problems (which we should, and that usually takes time and lots of sweat equity). However, it's a totally different game when the reason this can't or hasn't worked is because of the advanced cabal/alien superiority that thwarts every attempt to fix the problems.


Yes, sweat equity... and that's what Cobra, Drake and all of them are promising. A free ride with no work. Freeze dried freedom.

Thwarting every attempt to fix a problem? No doubt the cabal are evil, but if you are aligned with Cobra, you are representing a community that has spent the last year fixated on luxury lightworker jewelry. This is while we're in the middle of several humanitarian crises. I wonder how that looks to advanced ETs + subterraneans.

- The cabal isn't stopping us from solving water filtration problems on this planet.
- No one is getting SWAT teamed for starting an organic farm.
- No one is forcing us to spend 2-3 billion USD on stimulants every day.
- Many diseases can be cured for pennies, and the alt media is lethargic about promoting nutritional cures.

If there were ETs, I'd think they'd want to see us doing our best. Sorry, but I don't think we are doing our best.

In Cobra's latest blogpost, there is not one call to action. He's just trained his followers to meekly wait for the 'financial reset'. Audi making a lunar rover is supposedly a portent that we will soon be living in the stars. He is spinning mundane, pedestrian events as if they are a big deal. With the amount of social capital he built up in 2013-2014, he could've started a Renaissance by now.

Vladmir Putin, leader of the Eastern Alliance, wants to put Bitcoin users in jail. That isn't freedom. Xi Jinping has serious internal problems in his own party, as many of them think he's centralized too much power. Xi has cracked down on the press fiercely over the last 24 months.

I know that some Cobra readers are going to have a breakdown over the next six months as his core story unravels. I understand how you feel, but as you guys have been cheerleading global government and debt based banking for the last year or two, my sympathy is limited. :sun:

If there were a group of people incarnated to try and fix Earth's problems, Cobra and Drake's sites would be a good way to nix their efforts.

There's still a way out. The only olive branch I can offer is: www.startsomegood.com

[Wakanpyro]

The Event.......call it what you will but it has, is and will continue to happen. Our very state of mind and being calls for it, but what it is is as twisted and winding as the reply's on this thread. Ask a vague question and the theory's and answers will be all over the place. Try to go back and explain and it's too late, as so many things in this world are moving because they simply have been set in motion. Think of the things we think and want. We want a great announcement, disclosure if you will. Yet, think for a moment... You want a government you don't trust to tell you the truth only because it's something you WANT to hear. Then you will believe, yet nothing else the say can be trusted? What is our thought process here??? Think again for a moment... people love to speak of angels, yet what does that word mean? Something different to everyone and yet we fail to realize it simply means "messenger". who's messenger? Messenger of what or why? We don't believe so much yet someone we don't know speaks to a being that not another person can hear, there is a percentage of truth in what they say and everyone is amazed.... really? We want something tangible, something we can hold and trust yet it is all out of reach. Let us not forget all the things that were magic, until we learned more. With quantum physics we see smaller and smaller until we realize that even that which we thought was nothing is full of something..... Our science, our thoughts and what we deem as our realities are but philosophy until we accept them as truths. One thing that is most difficult to take from someone is their own experience and their perception of it.... To shorten this up I will say what I have learned many years ago and few accept.... When the world of men has been brought to their knees through fear, agony and pain.......when enough time has passed, it will only take one who will offer the least little bit of assistance......and that assistance will seem like so much that the multitudes will bow down and give up what they have for that pitiful bit of relief.... Let your thoughts be your own. Know yourself. Be at peace and look not for an event. You are the only you we have, make the most of you. Events will take care of themselves...........

[Eric J (Viking)]

Call it what you will.. The Event..The New Paradigm.. The Shift.. The Golden Age.
I think the current 'play' cannot sustain itself, so what's after?

Viking

[Enola]

But The Event seems like the opposite of The Shift.

Or just waiting to be saved without doing what it takes for it to happen. Like if caterpillars were to say "Instead of going through metamorphosis, let's wait for someone to come and transform us into butterflies" (?)

[Wakanpyro]

Like if caterpillars were to say "Instead of going through metamorphosis, let's wait for someone to come and transform us into butterflies" (?)

Well said Enola........

We are Never alonE...........

[Eric J (Viking)]

But The Event seems like the opposite of The Shift.

Or just waiting to be saved without doing what it takes for it to happen. Like if caterpillars were to say "Instead of going through metamorphosis, let's wait for someone to come and transform us into butterflies" (?)

If a million minds focused on an event the game would change...but the reality is the focus is elsewhere.

Viking

[onawah]

I've gone through many stages through my life, from dropout Zen Buddhist/Wiccan/mystical commune living hippie to pie-in-the-sky New Age hopeful with some spiritual and ET encounters that made me think for awhile that we will be "rescued", to disillusioned conspiracy theorist though still with faith that we are not doomed, but will almost certainly not be "rescued".
There are cosmic forces at work that are powerful and evolutionary, but there are also powerful negative forces which we understand very little about.
We don't really know how it all works, but it doesn't hurt to have faith, as long as it's not naive faith.
What centuries of study of human nature shows us without much doubt is that the Ego is fond of broad, sweeping gestures such as disinfo/misinfo sources love to demonstrate which usually turn out to be nothing but smoke and mirrors.
And that is so effective time and again because the human Ego likes to think that ordinary, everyday life is dull and stultifying, or as Shakespeare's MacBeth intoned:
"To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
To the last syllable of recorded time,
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing."

Disillusioning indeed!
But some of the most enlightened beings in mankind's history, the Taoist and Zen Masters, insisted that enlightenment is "nothing special" and freedom can be found in the simple tasks like chopping wood and hauling water, which can be on a par with the grandest of human achievements, if viewed correctly.
So it is, in fact, the mis/disinformation agents who deliver to us tales "Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing."

I spend a lot of time online signing petitions, sending letters and networking for various good causes, and I volunteer at local 5013cs, support my local Farmer's Market, am a member of our local anti-fluoride committee and do very grass root things like that, things that definitely show tangible results when persisted in which benefit everyone.
I sometimes despair that these everyday activities I have come to engage in regularly don't really amount to much in the way of changing the world.
But often enough, there are clear victories and triumphs which makes it all worthwhile.
For example, see this message from today:https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https://facebook.com/181924628560212/photos/a.203331373086204.51638.181924628560212/1029242023828464/?type=3&theater
Even though I'm only one in a chorus of thousands of voices, I am having an effect, and that, I think is a much more satisfying and worthwhile endeavor than staying affixed to those rose-colored glasses.
I still meditate and spend time in Nature connecting with Gaia and our beautiful :sun: and consider myself to be a spiritual person.
I used to think it was my job to convert skeptics to the New Age philosophy, but now I think my time is much better spent doing things that have clear and tangible results, that keep me grounded and reasonably content with life as it is, though at the same time working as hard as I can to make things better.
That's a better fit for me, though it took me awhile to get here.
The Ten Ox Herding pictures from ancient Buddhist teachings illustrate the journey in our search for Truth very well:
http://4peaks.com/ppox.htm
Despite the deluded state that mankind has lived in for ages, there have still been individuals who have gained liberation and evolved, and I think we do better to follow their example than to expect higher dimensional beings to save us.
I think there is purpose in the journey, however circuitous.

[KiwiElf]

But The Event seems like the opposite of The Shift.

Or just waiting to be saved without doing what it takes for it to happen. Like if caterpillars were to say "Instead of going through metamorphosis, let's wait for someone to come and transform us into butterflies" (?)

If a million minds focused on an event the game would change...but the reality is the focus is elsewhere.

Viking

:) You said that much more succinctly than me Viking and I think it's very true. Humans, by nature (not all but most), look for the easiest path from A - B; in their beliefs, learning, thinking and their actions, and everyone wants a slice of the "pie". Most of us want to be in a better situation than we are presently in. Not difficult to see why there is so much interest - and controversy - in this topic. :)

Might explain why there are many more "followers" than "leaders" in all aspects of life.

[triquetra]

The way Bill Ryan sets the tone here in his forum to be one of practical realism over wishful thinking is one of the biggest reasons I chose it as a primary launching point for the information I sought to share. And it's going to take time, but that's OK.

A sad reality is that almost all scientific types are led away from anything like this kind of stuff, and are largely subservient to another effective vector of intention - the one leading towards control structures, like cheating death through advanced technology and using technology to achieve hierarchy. This has been the case especially since the early 80s when the atmosphere and tone of the modern era was largely artificially constructed, i.e. the New Age disinformation campaign (one of their greatest and most damaging successes).

A large rift was established between the modern population and the knowledge base that preceded the internet. You would be hard pressed to come across a reference to a book like
http://www.amazon.com/Awakened-Mind-Biofeedback-Development-Awareness/dp/1852300043 , given it's late 70s publishing date (although it's in print again as of 2011).

We do in fact now have technology that would make it possible not only to monitor those who can naturally achieve higher states of consciousness (like monks, yogis, fakirs, and 4th way initiates), we can even induce these states directly. The catch is that another campaign against us has pushed us over the edge in terms of biological state, we are totally messes that rely on endless amounts of pharmaceuticals and vices to deal with our highly stressed out states, keeping us in a kind of a limbo that is fairly unreceptive to induced higher states.

Needless to say, if someone were to carelessly try to induce a higher state in a random person off the street, they would be extremely unlikely to succeed.

To the contrary, we would need to come back from the precipice, to realign ourselves and find at least a reasonably healthy biostate to have a shot at reaching higher states.

The good news is that the same technology can also be adapted to heal and help reset people to a bio state more similar to decades ago before the technology that was a part of that other campaign came along and put us pretty close to the panic/fight-or-flight biological state for near every waking moment.

Remember, relaxation is a relative thing. Most of us don't really know what relaxation is at all anymore, we push ourselves to the point of exhaustion, fall asleep suddenly, and then do it all again the next day, go go go from the moment the alarm sounds.

Long story short, Bill is absolutely right in suggesting that we absolutely cannot expect anything to come from some outside force. When there is an event, it's going to be one made by our own doing, by fixing ourselves and generating energy in great abundance by reaching specific higher states in large synchronized group sessions. The experiences will be extremely powerful, people will actually become totally comfortable with what an out-of-body experience is like by having done it so often by then, but we will be able to explain everything down to the very last detail because we will have built it all ourselves.

If there's any outside influence involved at all, it's the ones like Bashar who are encouraging us to take these matters into our own hands, to initiate our own individual parts of the ascension process, because, as explained above, if we don't, then we won't be of much use in these later group stages of all this until we do.

But for those who wait, there will be materials made available that will make this initial, individual part of the process easier to you. Think deep, profound relaxation induction like nothing you've ever experienced before, extreme sense of time dilation, tingly feeling all across the body, better mental awareness of the changes you need to make in your own lifestyles that no amount of healing and biostate repair sessions can fix on your behalf.

The "event" is very real but it will be entirely by our own doing.

[Morbid]

its just my point of view, but i believe that we are currently going through an active phase of the so called 'event' or global rise of consciousness. its first time in our known history that individual light bearers can communicate across the planet without any restriction. - growth of internet has broken the floodgates of information. age of controlled data flow is fading away. our search for truth is neverending, perhaps even beyond our bodies. i cant ever know for sure whats truth and whats not, its almost impossible to prove that its my very thoughts that im expressing right noe. so these days i choose to believe what i wish to happen as we might know by now: mind manifests matter.. i totally see Bill's angle here, but i also choose to appreciate the angles of others that wish for the same end product - rise in global awareness. if enough people believe in this 'event', then i guess its more likely for such scenario to take place. lets see what the creator got in the making for us!

[CD7]

Out of All the prophecies I've read and heard over the YEARS....this one seems to be one coming to fruition... about 2009 give or take a year I was told that in the future there would be talk about an "event" ---"events" to not pay attention to it?! Lol out of all of the unbelievable "prophecies " This seems to be one in the works . ..hummm such an "Event" our lives are.....

[Agape]

Bet sure no one tells nothing at the end ...if there's to be an event , is all I can attest to . I would never say the day before something out of ordinary of that scale is going to happen ..

it does not mean i can't reimagine things or imagine things ,

and there's always a subtle way to go down with them

but for events to be eventful someone have to come from the outer space to do that



How many people do you think, would wage the journey far across the Universe if they were deciding with full inner awareness and consent ..


probably , it's just us here . Looks huge but not so many :bigsmile:



Don't forget to get your mission pack ready . If you don't know what to take, ask wife ( or someone in NASA ) .

Skeptic check everything but ...do not doubt your own heart else you get nowhere with life .


Speak truth speak sweetly .

Choose a good pyjama set ...

and don't forget torch.


Send us a message


:heart:

[Kindred]

IMO... and my 'opinion' Only...

The 'EVENT' will be when EVERYONE learns to LOVE ONE ANOTHER... and Recognizes that

We ARE One with Mother Earth.

Imagine if Everyone were to see Themselves, as 'the all that is' sees them? What do you think would happen?

Remorse?... Realization?... Understanding?!

Perhaps... Unity Consciousness???!

To me, THIS is a distinct Probability.

IF WE WANT IT. ( I know I do!)

In Unity, Peace and Love

[Michelle Marie]

I
IMO... and my 'opinion' Only...

The 'EVENT' will be when EVERYONE learns to LOVE ONE ANOTHER... and Recognizes that

We ARE One with Mother Earth.

Imagine if Everyone were to see Themselves, as 'the all that is' sees them? What do you think would happen?

Remorse?... Realization?... Understanding?!

Perhaps... Unity Consciousness???!

To me, THIS is a distinct Probability.

IF WE WANT IT. ( I know I do!)

In Unity, Peace and Love

Well said. I'm shooting for Unity Consciousness and no longer giving my power away due to deceptive systems.
I AM free. I don't participate or give my attention to the old systems. I'm not paying any attention to tv or elections.
I will not vote for someone to represent me; I will remain. Universal Sovereign choosing to live by higher ethics and morals than man's corrupted laws and institutions. I will focus my energy on solutions, specifically using my gifts and talents to help make the world a better place. I'm not waiting for any outer event. The event already took place inside of me. I am free.

I apply all the laws of the physics of consciousness to the overall well-being of my greater Self and I'm still overcoming old patterns so I can get better. I intend to help the most amount of people in the shortest amount of linear time, but I function in a non local nonlinear fashion when I live from the inside out. No victim hood. We are all embracing our soul powers.

Maybe the event for humanity will be when we (escaping deception) reach the great threshold and realize we really are just here to love and serve one another. I love God the All.

:heart: I remain opti-mystic for great events to occur based on the evolution of consciousness.
Michelle Marie

[OMG]

Been very busy last couple days and haven’t had a chance to respond.

Thanks to those FEW who stayed on track here…LOL :clapping:

Maybe we should have changed the titled to “THE EVENT – an analysis, speculation and tangents” :gaah:


1. Ok, first let me say that I never said I believed in THE EVENT. I’m merely looking at it as a possibility.

Here is a decent synopsis of “beliefs” http://trufax.org/general/beliefsystems.html

However, we must recognize that most of us have beliefs in all sorts of things. Often without realizing it.


2. The “witnesses” I listed (COBRA, Drake Bailey, the Dragon Ambassador, and Ben Fulford) were chosen ONLY because they supposedly had direct interaction with a significant “source” of either alien, agartha or the human resistance leadership.

With this particular subject I’m not sure what would constitute “credibility” or valid “discrimination” with these people? Consider that the “sources” for these men all wish to operate covertly since divulging any “proof” right now could compromise their objectives.

As far as each individual listed...

I don’t know of any credibility issues against COBRA.

I know Ben makes questionable statements, etc. But both he and The Dragon Ambassador, IMHO, work for the lowest level “sources” that are mainly dealing with the new and TEMPORARY financial system.

I know Drake, who was originally working with white hat Pentagon sources, claimed that our USA Constitutional Republic was “legally” reinstated after years of being a cabal controlled US Inc. oligarchy. Not sure if this has been proven or not.

And outside of all of the hostility towards Corey his credibility shot up a notch when William Thompkins independently supported some of his claims about the SSP.

Sometimes people tend to be too analytical/heady and wait for social modes of proof before they accept anything. I can’t recall how many times I’ve known stuff ahead of time that ultimately proved true. However, that said I think it is SUPER IMPORTANT to be socially responsible and accountable! In other words, if you wish to be in the social spot light you have to clearly state which avenue you are proliferating your views. Are they merely subjective OR are they objective? And if the latter you MUST provide proof OR a reasonable explanation on why objective proof is NOT available at this time.

“I don't argue things being spiritual vs scientific, because I've never met anyone who knows enough about either to be convincing--including myself.”
― S. Kelley Harrell


3. These men are NOT proliferating a “free ride”. I understand them to be saying we need to do our own work. However, the amount of damage that the negative aliens/beings have done over such a long period of time cannot be fixed by us at our current stage of development/repression. And it's questionable if it will EVER get fixed if we aren't helped. Just look at what's going on everywhere. So the positive aliens/beings are fixing those issues, including our DNA. And once we are back on fair and even ground then we can do as we wish individually and collectively.

:popcorn:

[onawah]

I'm not really sure what you would call staying on track on this thread.
But you stated that you think it's questionable that things will ever get fixed if we are helped.
The opinion you expressed next is that "the positive aliens/beings are fixing those issues, including our DNA".
Which would mean, apparently, that you think things are never going to be fixed.


However, the amount of damage that the negative aliens/beings have done over such a long period of time cannot be fixed by us at our current stage of development/repression. And it's questionable if it will EVER get fixed if we are helped. Just look at what's going on everywhere. So the positive aliens/beings are fixing those issues, including our DNA.
:popcorn:

[OMG]

Thank you onawah. I made a type-o and have fixed it.

Regarding staying on track. I stated in my original post "I’m NOT looking for why you don’t believe in it. I’m looking for why you could believe in it." Many did not do this. Which beckons the consideration that maybe this type of divergent thinking is why we are in such a mess as a people...LOL. :attention:

[Daozen]

It's OK for you to specify posting criteria in the OP, OMG. You have started a fascinating discussion, one of the best recent threads. It's also OK for us to raise contrary viewpoints if we feel like it. If you want a more restricted environment, the Cosmic Voice and Cobra groups are both heavily moderated. Cosmic Voice, those bastions of freedom, just banned dozens, if not hundreds of people.

As a person, I don't think Cobra has many credibility issues, but I can see many holes in his story that don't add up logically. I have a strong feeling that even if I listed them, Cobra readers would ignore or dismiss them.

For example:

1) Why does he claim "vast funds belong to me". Is there any objective evidence to prove this, or are you working on faith alone?




Also, the scope of this blog, projects associated with it regarding planetary liberation and people’s response to this has grown to the point when I can no longer cover everything with my own financial resources. Information in this blog will always be free. However, additional funding is needed from wealthy persons that are willing to contribute something to those liberation efforts. I trust there are some rich people out there that haven’t been completely absorbed into the Rothschild casino and would like to support the Light instead. Minimum donation is $1000 and regular monthly donations would ease things very much. Those willing to help, please contact cobraresistance@gmail.com for details.


Actually there are vast funds that rightfully belong to me and could be put into good use in those projects, but the Jesuit faction is constantly blocking my access to that money. I keep fighting to get it back for years, but as of yet, without success.

2) Are the "subtereanean resistance movement" aware, with all their technology, that surface dwellers are suffering from critical Iodine, Vit C, Magensium and other mineral deficiencies? These deficiencies are the major source of human misery up here right now. Knowing that, why don't they advise (with appropriate disclaimers) people to investigate these avenues instead of paying 300USD per hour for healing, or just under 2000USD for a healing device? These prices are prohibitive. You can see for yourself how many of his readers are suffering, and all he does is promise them plasma healing "after the Event"

3) If Vladimir Putin is on our side, why did the Russian parliament ban bitcoin? Does the "Eastern Alliance" support the freedom of humans to experiment with non-fiat currencies?

4) What is more valuable to Earth right now... 100 liters of purified water, or lightworker jewelry? You could purifiy maybe 10,000 liters of water for the price of a chintamani stone. Please tell me, from your perspective, if purified water is a priority on Earth, or a side-issue?

5) (Working from the assumption that Corey is not entirely honest)- If Chintamani stones increase spiritual perception, why do the major holders and proliferators of Chintamani stones believe Corey's story wholeheartedly? It looks like Chintamanis block spiritual sight, if anything.

I invite you to answer those questions point-by-point if you have time.

Do Agartha and the subtereanean resistance networks exist? Sure. But are these guys in contact with them.? More doubtful every day.

[onawah]

The only really grounded conclusion I think anyone can draw from any of these kinds of discussions is that there MAY be help coming from ETs, but the only thing that is really going to make effective and long lasting change on this planet is going to have to come from within humanity; what happens when people put too much faith in outside intervention is that they fail to take responsibility for themselves.
And if there really are more evolved ETs here helping us, they are probably very much aware of this and consequently are keeping a low profile to prevent dependency.
So any sources such as the ones you have named who are trying to minimize that and make it appear as if those ETs are easily accessible and going to take up the slack for us are probably being misled, are mind controlled, or worse.
And there is plenty of evidence to support that which has been posted right here on Avalon.
Just ask Bill!

[OMG]

It's OK for you to specify posting criteria in the OP, OMG. You have started a fascinating discussion, one of the best recent threads. It's also OK for us to raise contrary viewpoints if we feel like it. If you want a more restricted environment, the Cosmic Voice and Cobra groups are both heavily moderated. Cosmic Voice, those bastions of freedom, just banned dozens, if not hundreds of people.

There's a saying, "all is permissible, but not all is beneficial". I for one would never attempt to stifle people's freewill choices, as long as they did the same. But limiting freedom of speech wasn't the reason for this thread's intent.

Structure and cohesiveness of like minded thought cannot occur if derisive exchange/efforts are interjected instead. If several people started to build a house and in the process some people involved decided to do other things that had nothing to do with how the house got built. What happens? Answer: The house doesn't get built. There's a lot of this stuff going on now days...

Would it not be courteous and mindful to just start another thread designed to address the problems and other issues regarding THE EVENT? :amen:

[OMG]

For example:

1) Why does he claim "vast funds belong to me". Is there any objective evidence to prove this, or are you working on faith alone?

Quote
Also, the scope of this blog, projects associated with it regarding planetary liberation and people’s response to this has grown to the point when I can no longer cover everything with my own financial resources. Information in this blog will always be free. However, additional funding is needed from wealthy persons that are willing to contribute something to those liberation efforts. I trust there are some rich people out there that haven’t been completely absorbed into the Rothschild casino and would like to support the Light instead. Minimum donation is $1000 and regular monthly donations would ease things very much. Those willing to help, please contact cobraresistance@gmail.com for details.


Actually there are vast funds that rightfully belong to me and could be put into good use in those projects, but the Jesuit faction is constantly blocking my access to that money. I keep fighting to get it back for years, but as of yet, without success.
2) Are the "subtereanean resistance movement" aware, with all their technology, that surface dwellers are suffering from critical Iodine, Vit C, Magensium and other mineral deficiencies? These deficiencies are the major source of human misery up here right now. Knowing that, why don't they advise (with appropriate disclaimers) people to investigate these avenues instead of paying 300USD per hour for healing, or just under 2000USD for a healing device? These prices are prohibitive. You can see for yourself how many of his readers are suffering, and all he does is promise them plasma healing "after the Event"

3) If Vladimir Putin is on our side, why did the Russian parliament ban bitcoin? Does the "Eastern Alliance" support the freedom of humans to experiment with non-fiat currencies?

4) What is more valuable to Earth right now... 100 liters of purified water, or lightworker jewelry? You could purifiy maybe 10,000 liters of water for the price of a chintamani stone. Please tell me, from your perspective, if purified water is a priority on Earth, or a side-issue?

5) (Working from the assumption that Corey is not entirely honest)- If Chintamani stones increase spiritual perception, why do the major holders and proliferators of Chintamani stones believe Corey's story wholeheartedly? It looks like Chintamanis block spiritual sight, if anything.

I invite you to answer those questions point-by-point if you have time.

Do Agartha and the subtereanean resistance networks exist? Sure. But are these guys in contact with them.? More doubtful every day.

It's not that your points aren't worth consideration. It's simply that they have no place in THIS THREAD. Which creates a problem. Do I respond and break the cohesiveness by which this thread was intended? Or do I answer and start yet another tangent. Which I have already done in this thread...regrettably.

As such, I CHOOSE to NOT answer here and state that ANY replies in this thread follow the guidelines as specified. But I am going to start a NEW thread that will be more appropriate for such questions and observations.

:yield:

[OMG]

Since I had so many people get off topic with my thread http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90877-THE-EVENT-Why-it-could-be-real I figured it would be better to start a NEW thread designed for analysis, questions, and various opinions instead of cluttering up the old thread any more than it already is.

If you are unfamiliar with the topic "THE EVENT" I suggest you go to the thread above and look at my first two post for a summary of what it is.

Now..."Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of war"...LOL

:happy dog:

Cheers

[Daozen]

Hi, me again. Have we met before? Anyway, thanks for opening this thread. This is one of the most constructive conversations we have had recently because it goes to the core of the human condition. I'm pasting my questions re: Cobra here... Would like to hear what you think. The only thing I ask is that, -if you had time- numbered questions should be matched with numbered answers. That's the only suggestion I'll make:

Questions Re: Cobra

1) Why does he claim "vast funds belong to me". Is there any objective evidence to prove this, or are you working on faith alone?


Also, the scope of this blog, projects associated with it regarding planetary liberation and people’s response to this has grown to the point when I can no longer cover everything with my own financial resources. Information in this blog will always be free. However, additional funding is needed from wealthy persons that are willing to contribute something to those liberation efforts. I trust there are some rich people out there that haven’t been completely absorbed into the Rothschild casino and would like to support the Light instead. Minimum donation is $1000 and regular monthly donations would ease things very much. Those willing to help, please contact cobraresistance@gmail.com for details.

Actually there are vast funds that rightfully belong to me and could be put into good use in those projects, but the Jesuit faction is constantly blocking my access to that money. I keep fighting to get it back for years, but as of yet, without success.

2) Are the "subtereanean resistance movement" aware, with all their technology, that surface dwellers are suffering from critical Iodine, Vit C, Magensium and other mineral deficiencies? These deficiencies are the major source of human misery up here right now. Knowing that, why don't they advise (with appropriate medical and legal disclaimers) people to investigate these avenues; instead of paying 300USD per hour for healing, or just under 2000USD for a healing device? These prices are prohibitive. You can see for yourself how many of his readers are suffering, and all he does is promise them plasma healing "after the Event"

3) If Vladimir Putin is on our side, why did the Russian parliament ban bitcoin? Does the "Eastern Alliance" support the freedom of humans to experiment with non-fiat currencies?

4) What is more valuable to Earth right now... 100 liters of purified water, or lightworker jewelry? You could purifiy maybe 10,000 liters of water for the price of a chintamani stone. Please tell me, from your perspective, if purified water is a priority on Earth, or a side-issue?

5) (Working from the assumption that Corey is not entirely honest)- If Chintamani stones increase spiritual perception, why do the major holders and proliferators of Chintamani stones believe Corey's story wholeheartedly? It looks like Chintamanis block spiritual sight, if anything.

I invite you to answer those questions point-by-point if you have time.

Do Agartha and the subtereanean resistance networks exist? Sure. But are these guys in contact with them.? More doubtful every day.

[OMG]

As a person, I don't think Cobra has many credibility issues, but I can see many holes in his story that don't add up logically. I have a strong feeling that even if I listed them, Cobra readers would ignore or dismiss them.

For example:

1) Why does he claim "vast funds belong to me". Is there any objective evidence to prove this, or are you working on faith alone?




Also, the scope of this blog, projects associated with it regarding planetary liberation and people’s response to this has grown to the point when I can no longer cover everything with my own financial resources. Information in this blog will always be free. However, additional funding is needed from wealthy persons that are willing to contribute something to those liberation efforts. I trust there are some rich people out there that haven’t been completely absorbed into the Rothschild casino and would like to support the Light instead. Minimum donation is $1000 and regular monthly donations would ease things very much. Those willing to help, please contact cobraresistance@gmail.com for details.


Actually there are vast funds that rightfully belong to me and could be put into good use in those projects, but the Jesuit faction is constantly blocking my access to that money. I keep fighting to get it back for years, but as of yet, without success.

2) Are the "subtereanean resistance movement" aware, with all their technology, that surface dwellers are suffering from critical Iodine, Vit C, Magensium and other mineral deficiencies? These deficiencies are the major source of human misery up here right now. Knowing that, why don't they advise (with appropriate disclaimers) people to investigate these avenues instead of paying 300USD per hour for healing, or just under 2000USD for a healing device? These prices are prohibitive. You can see for yourself how many of his readers are suffering, and all he does is promise them plasma healing "after the Event"

3) If Vladimir Putin is on our side, why did the Russian parliament ban bitcoin? Does the "Eastern Alliance" support the freedom of humans to experiment with non-fiat currencies?

4) What is more valuable to Earth right now... 100 liters of purified water, or lightworker jewelry? You could purifiy maybe 10,000 liters of water for the price of a chintamani stone. Please tell me, from your perspective, if purified water is a priority on Earth, or a side-issue?

5) (Working from the assumption that Corey is not entirely honest)- If Chintamani stones increase spiritual perception, why do the major holders and proliferators of Chintamani stones believe Corey's story wholeheartedly? It looks like Chintamanis block spiritual sight, if anything.

I invite you to answer those questions point-by-point if you have time.

Do Agartha and the subtereanean resistance networks exist? Sure. But are these guys in contact with them.? More doubtful every day.

Ok, so I'm not an authority on THE EVENT although I do think it's possible. I'm trying to be mindful, as such I wish to attempt at a reply to Daozen's points he made in the last thread.

1. I see no way that COBRA could prove that he has access to vast funds if these funds are in control of the cabal. Unless he had some financial ledger. But even if he did couldn't that be faked? Also, we don't know if these are his funds in particular or funds that he has access to but maybe don't belong to him per say. For instance, they could belong to the Resistance faction he belongs with.

2. The "subterranean resistance movement" (Agarthan network) consist of numerous races and agendas. From what I understand their main objective was to tend to their own kinds and let us tend to ours. They neither had the means, inclination or military power to interact with surface folk while the negative aliens were in control. It is only fairly recently that this has changed due to more advance positive forces getting involved. And the assistance you are looking for is partially what THE EVENT is all about. Although I do not know what they base their priorities on, outside of what has been stated.

3. I have no idea why bitcoin was banned. From what I understand there will be a temporary new financial system once THE EVENT starts. Maybe bitcoin has no place with that? However, none of that matters in the long run since NO financial system will be needed as that is a by-product of a primitive and controlled race.

4. Obviously purified water is a priority for everyone. This has nothing to do with the chintamani stone's or the money used to purchase them. How do we know that these stones don't play an important role that we can't account for but has been calculated by the positive forces to reduce more suffering, etc? Also, if you wish money to be used for a specific purpose you need to establish the system and infrastructure to make it work. So maybe this purified water dispersion system isn't ready to be implemented by the Resistance.

5. I know Corey's credibility has been in question. My only response currently is that his credibility has increased in my eyes since he said a while back that the Blue Avians stated that there would be others coming forward to support aspects of his experiences. Then we got William Tompkins who has independently testified to similar aspects of the Secret Space Program (SSP). Things such as using the term "Solar Warden", etc.
http://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/the-amazing-story-continues-part1.html
http://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/the-amazing-story-continues-part2.html

The mystery continues...curious and curiouser...
:sherlock:

[Daozen]

Thanks for your answers. You are here as a kind of bridge between the Cobra and Avalon groups, and acting as a diplomat, so to speak. You have also kept your cool when many people haven't agreed with you . That isn't easy. I have lost my composure many times when debating groups whose ethics I don't align with. I don't have time to respond right now, as I'm cooking lunch, but I'll be back sometime.

*

I must work soon so I have to be quick...

Corey Goode, David Wilcock, The Red Dragons, Ben Fulford, Drake and Vladimir Putin enjoyed a lot more credibility this time last year, then they do now. Their believability has tanked since spring 2015. I see the same thing happening to Cobra #soon.

He validated all of the 2012 club 'media personalities' long after others questioned them, even after The Red Dragons stiffed a bunch of their followers. Cobra has had to flip flop on whether he supports these guys or not. I respect his 'loyalty'- but his support of this gang tells me he is in the same faction as all of them. I think they are all being manipulated by a subterranean -and/or surface- group that wants to preserve the status quo by disempowering key freedom initiatives, or a faction that wants to move into power after the current cabal leave.

The irony is: the financial and medical ideas offered by the Cobra group >>>>right nowt<<<< are worse than medicine available to any topsider with access to Paypal and iHerb. And they're massively expensive to anyone in the developing world. And probably worse than local roadside herbs in a poor country. 300 USD per hour is very expensive. Don't the RM care?

So his followers, while being promised Paradise (like a thousand sects who have come and gone since way before the time of Christ)- are being thrown under a bus to fend for themselves. Not just thrown under the rainbow coloured bus, they are tied to the fender and being dragged along behind it.


2. The "subterranean resistance movement" (Agarthan network) consist of numerous races and agendas. From what I understand their main objective was to tend to their own kinds and let us tend to ours. They neither had the means, inclination or military power to interact with surface folk while the negative aliens were in control. It is only fairly recently that this has changed due to more advance positive forces getting involved. And the assistance you are looking for is partially what THE EVENT is all about. Although I do not know what they base their priorities on, outside of what has been stated.

But now, according to Cobra, the subterraneans do have a voice to interact with the surface population. He is claiming to be the "official outlet for the Resistance movement" and has persisted in this claim since April 2012.

Given the poverty of resources available to Cobra's readers (which reminds me of the protein deficient diets of some cults) I conclude that the faction Cobra speaks for:

1) Does not care about the well-being of their supporters.
2) Does not know about the ill health of their supporters.
3) Is not competent to do anything about the health of their supporters with basic nutrition.
4) Do not genuinely have a clear connection to their supposed surface representative.

"Later/Soon" in the mythical future, Cobra readers believe they will get access to Elysium style tech. I hope that does exist, and believe it might. But why are they being milked so hard now? Under the hood there is a lack of ethics, transparency, competence, communication or resources.


Obviously purified water is a priority for everyone. [ ] Also, if you wish money to be used for a specific purpose you need to establish the system and infrastructure to make it work. So maybe this purified water dispersion system isn't ready to be implemented by the Resistance.

This is not obvious to Cobra readers. Leaving aside the relationship between the Chintamani stones and water for now; the infrastructure to drastically alleviate dirty water supplies *does* exist all over the place. Proctor and Gamble sachets (thanks Bob), The Lifesaver Bottle, Lifestraws, Soma, Sawyer water filters, biosand, zeolites, activated charcoal... Plus, the digital payment gateways and transport are here. They're getting better every day.

So why do Cobra supporters not care? They pay lip service to water filtration and saving lives (I think you are sincere, OMG) - but the realpolitik shows total indifference. I respect free will. They have a right to not care. But as they claim to be acting *in the name of Agartha* (including the "King of the World") and representing of positive subterraneans, I find the jewelry before filtration priorities of the entire group to be frustrating, funny, and sometimes downright chilling.

The people of Africa have no water to drink? Why... let them drink shakes.

Maybe the rumours are true, and I am a "disinfo agent", or a big-mouthed hydroponic farmer who doesn't understand the "sophisticated energy dynamics" of the Chintamani project. But alt media history says I might be right: Corey, Drake, David Wilcock, The Red Dragons, The Galactic Federation of Light (Cobra used the GFOL until the pushback became too intense) Ben Fulford, The Galactic Wave of Love, the -Abundance- promised in early 2016, .... the Mass arrests, the QEG...

All of these are dust_in_the_road. Sound and fury... => 0

So why should the Chintamani project be any different? I can't take on faith what the Cobra group is offering, because they have nearly always been wrong. And they continue to lose traction like a cat on a rainy lead roof.

No offence to the makers of the QEG. I am just using it as an example of one of Cobra's missteps. It's OK to make mistakes. It's fine to make a million mistakes. But it's not OK to fraudulently pass yourself off as a spokesman of a benevolent subterranean civilization.

OK that's all... Yes I have ranted too much, but I have a lot to get off my chest.

The context of the media group he is with, the indifference towards medical and financial suffering, the low quality solutions, the constant errors, and the prohibitive pricing of his medical care are all big red flags. :heart:Luckily, a lot of people agree with me, because his petition signatures have dropped by nearly 70percent.

Agartha is real, the 2012 pretenders are not...

One more thing. When subterraneans come up here, they sometimes pose as beggars.... Hmmmm. Curious indeed! :Party:

[DNA]

Stewart Swerdlow states that there are absolutely NO friendly races towards the earth human, only races with different agendas on how to USE the earth human.
Swerdlow states that there are races of whom we would deem quite positive that are viewing the human race as a dangerous experiment and that they contemplate whether they should put to an end to mankind and be done with us.

If I'm going to quote folks who could be classified as Captain Crazy, it seems Swerdlow is a much more vetted source than Corey Goode.
Swerdlow has been vetted by Preston Nichols, Al Bielek and Duncan Cameron. Corey Goode has been vetted by David Wilcock who's Montauk source was a janitor who talked to him at a pancake house while noticing what Wilcock was reading.

In Robert Morningsky's Terra Papers, it is stated that the alien who crash landed and was rescued by Morningsky's Apache Grandfather stated that the earth and mankind are the source of struggles between different alien factions who are presently battling for the rights of this place.

This is echoed in Kerry Cassidy's Interviews with Mark Richards of the secret space program. Mark Richards states that it is very important to understand that we are the beneficiary of various selfishly motivated alien groups who are fighting without victory over ownership of our planet. If any of these groups were to win out right, they would be capable of defeating us in next to no time what so ever. And at that point we would be at the mercy of whatever plans they had.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpO9Eghln4g

[ZenBaller]

1) If the Event is esoteric and has to do with a leap in human consciousness, then all opinions and mind chatter about it actually hinders it. A spiritual breakthrough can only happen through Heart, so mental analyses don't help. We have to let it flourish by itself without putting up mental barriers and expectations.

2) If the Event has to do with mundane activities like a new financial system, arrests and "official" first contact, then it's quite obvious that it is a form of manipulation and it is orchestrated by entities with self-interest.

3) The Event can be both of the above, depending on where each person stands inside.

[Agape]

Stewart Swerdlow states that there are absolutely NO friendly races towards the earth human, only races with different agendas on how to USE the earth human.
Swerdlow states that there are races of whom we would deem quite positive that are viewing the human race as a dangerous experiment and that they contemplate whether they should put to an end to mankind and be done with us.

If I'm going to quote folks who could be classified as Captain Crazy, it seems Swerdlow is a much more vetted source than Corey Goode.
Swerdlow has been vetted by Preston Nichols, Al Bielek and Duncan Cameron. Corey Goode has been vetted by David Wilcock who's Montauk source was a janitor who talked to him at a pancake house while noticing what Wilcock was reading.

In Robert Morningsky's Terra Papers, it is stated that the alien who crash landed and was rescued by Morningsky's Apache Grandfather stated that the earth and mankind are the source of struggles between different alien factions who are presently battling for the rights of this place.

This is echoed in Kerry Cassidy's Interviews with Mark Richards of the secret space program. Mark Richards states that it is very important to understand that we are the beneficiary of various selfishly motivated alien groups who are fighting without victory over ownership of our planet. If any of these groups were to win out right, they would be capable of defeating us in next to no time what so ever. And at that point we would be at the mercy of whatever plans they had.


Steward Swerdlov and I dare to say, the rest of people you named ( with few good exceptions of course such as Robert Morningsky ) are great experts in 'mind control' and psychology of the masses ,
sociological predictions and deliberations and all that has to do with awareness of 'where humanity has gone wrong'

but their statements of behalf of 'all ET races' are not only outrageous and far 'out of the ball' where their typically human awareness goes ,
they are no experts in extraterrestrial affairs , forgive me to say that .

I feel I should not because from the ETs point of view , debating such people is completely a waste of time so far .

To trace the origins of their motives and intentions just go back to the history and where it started in the modern era ,
it all started with high hopes and expectations .. from the ET . Hopes in getting to know any of them face to face , finding about their complicated reality , determining how can we communicate and assist each other .

When there were no immediate 'proofs on plate' and the evidence offered remained shrouded in clouds and mystery events ,
those desiring power or lets say, thinking they're automatically entitled to information of 'another kind' and best prepared to receive it because their 'inherent right' to rulership of human groups,
right they assumed and proclaimed to themselves and their families for thousands of years,
these people fell on their sword proclaiming themselves 'initiated by bloodline' ,

the same feature they themselves so often condemn , holding an argument with and against some of the current royalty of the planet .

By doing so and with further implicated conviction that traces their 'supposed ancestry' back to 'powerful dracos' these people have gone very far now to misleading you,

and downgrading your supposed beliefs to another power loving , animistic principle you're , supposedly again , be fighting through all history and to future .

Like every 'fight' , 'jihad' and 'struggle' , such calls for war and awakening are maybe 'sociologically correct' but really far from being 'objective truth'

where human origin , legacy and philosophy is concerned .


But ... till all people admire are fights , aggression, violence , outsmarting and overpowering each other , these people and their stories will play on their minds
and that's the catch 22 , for you.


If any of them had real feeling - connection and objective experience with the ET, they would be so much cautious to assign any aggressive motivation to them or claim knowledge of them ,
which now they're doing . Basking in their own illusion of glory and knowledge .

[DNA]

Steward Swerdlov and I dare to say, the rest of people you named ( with few good exceptions of course such as Robert Morningsky ) are great experts in 'mind control' and psychology of the masses

So Robert Morningsky's Apache Grandfather is an expert in mind control?
There is no reason to be defensive. I'm just making correlations.


Basking in their own illusion of glory and knowledge .
I would definitely state there are those on this forum with illusions especially those so sure of the alien's intentions.

[Agape]

Steward Swerdlov and I dare to say, the rest of people you named ( with few good exceptions of course such as Robert Morningsky ) are great experts in 'mind control' and psychology of the masses

So Robert Morningsky's Apache Grandfather is an expert in mind control?
There is no reason to be defensive. I'm just making correlations.


I think I've specifically excepted Robert Morningsky from my comment .



Basking in their own illusion of glory and knowledge .
I would definitely state there are those on this forum with illusions especially those so sure of the alien's intentions.


That was not the content or meaning of my message . I wonder what makes people like you calling me overtly 'delusional' ,
for not confirming with the 'alien as portrayed by your gurus' paradigm and are you even remotely aware of how much do I know about it.

Who gives you the right ?


:heart:


It MAY WELL BE the problem I'm facing with this movement right from the beginning , your level of 'knowledge' and beliefs , beyond which perhaps, you're not destined to go because ?
I've asked Bill to throw me out, couple of times ..rather than being made an idiot by common consent ,
if you ask what for , it's obvious vulnerability anyone would suffer without malicious intents supporting intents of humanitarian , peace loving and non aggressive race of beings,
for my disapproval of what you so admire , the animal like warfare you call me 'delusional' ?

For not being part of your paradigm, your nationalistic, racial, ethical disputes, your adherence to 'must be' wars,
for that you've never noticed me ?

Purely rhetorical questions .. you don't have to answer them .



The way I was handled by this very movement and what I saw within its cheerleaders , from the start was proportional to THEIR BELIEFS. They were full of them , beliefs.

They were not interested in knowledge or capable of running skeptic check of their own beliefs , on behalf of new information ,
they're fully involved with the control mechanisms they operate and you have no right to tell me 'you too'. Because that would be simply a LIE in this case.

The same people can't think free anymore because their heads are full of it , so this is the people who speak to you 'for ETs' ?

Outrageous :sun:

[DNA]

That was not the content or meaning of my message . I wonder what makes people like you calling me overtly 'delusional'
for not confirming with the 'alien as portrayed by your gurus' paradigm and are you even remotely aware of how much do I know about it.Who gives you the right ?

First off, all I did was correlate a small group of individuals who have a similar message.
Now, I could understand Swerdlow's point here. I mean we are a Frankenstien race. Right? We are the recipient of who knows how many alien genetic implants over thousands of years. We are certainly dangerous. And we do seem poised to begin space explorations and projecting our crazy out into the galaxy. So you do have to admit Swerdlow has a point, and it does make a little sense certain alien groups would want to contain the pathogen as some alien races consider humans to be.

Now I certainly hope guys like Swerdlow are wrong. I really do. But again, I'm just correlating data from folks who have offered some amazing information. And they most certainly are not my guru. I mean Bill and Kerry interviewed Stewart Swerdlow, does that make him Bill and Kerry's guru?

In so far as offending you, I apologize. I was simply pointing out the silliness of anyone having knowledge of or having convictions regarding what aliens are doing here. I mean, LOL how could any of us know? Right?
I certainly do not. I'm only posting what I feel are the interesting thoughts of those who are considered experts on the subject. :)

Have a good day Agape

[Agape]

First off, all I did was correlate a small group of individuals who have a similar message.
Now, I could understand Swerdlow's point here. I mean we are a Frankenstien race. Right? We are the recipient of who knows how many alien genetic implants over thousands of years. We are certainly dangerous. And we do seem poised to begin space explorations and projecting our crazy out into the galaxy. So you do have to admit Swerdlow has a point, and it does make a little sense certain alien groups would want to contain the pathogen as some alien races consider humans to be.


Understood and thanks for making the point for me , in open .

I beg to have different set of data , qualitatively speaking , and I've not called humanity 'frankensteinian race' despite their own willingness to do so .

I've tried to convey in my personal testimony how the ancestors of humanity were in fact, not only humanoid but advanced and highly humane, read naturally ethical and ascended in their awareness,
that 'humanity's own blueprint and archetype is of noble descent despite the millions of years of evolution and devolution and cross breeding with various lower or even remotely e.t. life forms ,
I could even go to details and did once or twice in past to detail to which extent were such experiments carried on , none to big harms really ,

to paraphrase Keanu Reeves in the movie 'The Earth Stood Still' ''the problem is not technologies, the problem is you'' ,

it's upon each human being I BELIEVE , to make a choice for themselves .

Our ancestors suffered an accident here that set the whole wheel of mortality and suffering for them , for millions of years to come ,
emergence of new kind of beings - the humans .

You don't have this data but i tried to convey those to appropriate institutions , so far they're drown , under the ocean of human myths , the common unconscious that creates stories and explanations .
Why do I even think you would choose the right option out of all ... but few people always will ( Call it faith . How many times did I fall for my faith in mankind ? )

Human life is known for its fight for freedom . Everyone ( almost, can't forget extreme cases when this is not possible ) are free to choose between 'being dignified humanbeing' , being a 'drone' or being a 'monster' .

Cultivating violence and faith in monsters certainly does lead close to monsters .

Now if you abide by choosing the 'dignified humane' option, in your body , speech and Mind, moment after moment that's how you get back to yourself ,

and your own true knowledge.


Peace to your DNA as well :sun:

[Morbid]

perhaps the forced dismantle of the financial sector and destruction of wealth and values would be an ultimate test of global consciousness.. how would humanity behave in such scenario? would they accept the new paradigm and remain human to each other or stomp off for the sake of ownership? if acquisition still remain a target #1 then we are surely doomed as them folks are usually the aggressive bunch.
i made a little experiment today. two guys that im supervising at the moment always moan, compete and seek material growth - so today i spent all working day giving them all i can even at the expense of my pocket, turns out they dont really need any of it as when against all odds its presented to them they become scared and they run away from it while being completely blind that it took me effort and energy to do it. its sad as they dont actually know for sure what they want and for such specimens money become the ultimate 'wantingness'. being stuck in the 'want' cycle of the ego is an unfortunate consequence of our society.
wish i could continue writing this but i got to go buy a new car!

[Kindred]

Well said. I'm shooting for Unity Consciousness and no longer giving my power away due to deceptive systems.
I AM free. I don't participate or give my attention to the old systems. I'm not paying any attention to tv or elections.
I will not vote for someone to represent me; I will remain. Universal Sovereign choosing to live by higher ethics and morals than man's corrupted laws and institutions. I will focus my energy on solutions, specifically using my gifts and talents to help make the world a better place. I'm not waiting for any outer event. The event already took place inside of me. I am free.

I apply all the laws of the physics of consciousness to the overall well-being of my greater Self and I'm still overcoming old patterns so I can get better. I intend to help the most amount of people in the shortest amount of linear time, but I function in a non local nonlinear fashion when I live from the inside out. No victim hood. We are all embracing our soul powers.

Maybe the event for humanity will be when we (escaping deception) reach the great threshold and realize we really are just here to love and serve one another. I love God the All.

:heart: I remain opti-mystic for great events to occur based on the evolution of consciousness.
Michelle Marie

Well Said, Indeed! You have made a far more direct and complete statement than I. I Thank You!

Regardless of the OP's preferences and focus, I truly feel that, as you so eloquently point out... It is what We do, as individuals, on a daily basis, with Perseverance and Love, that will truly change our world.. "BE the change you wish to see in the world".

Outside of that, I personally feel (KNOW) that there are 'benevolents', 'out there', that have tried very hard to help us. However, our ego's (and some 'nasties') get in the way. The Vast majority of humans live good lives, and have good hearts. When we live from a Love-centered/Heart-centered place, the ego naturally falls away to a level commensurate with a more beneficial way of life for ALL. These beings have the means and the understanding to assist humanity, but we've got to do the 'heavy lifting'... and they will provide the 'kick' when it will help the most.
please see a previous post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89876-Urgent-message-for-all-starseeds-lightworkers-twin-flames-144k-healers-elders-wisdom-keepers&p=1059283&viewfull=1#post1059283

In Unity, Peace and Love

[OMG]

Too funny... :twitch:

This thread was created to address all of the obvious analysis and feedback that people wished to share. But no one is really participating now.

** Is it that people prefer to write when they see Bill involved? Since it is obvious that when Bill writes there is an increase in thread participation.

** Or that they like to rebel against the threads intent and since that isn't relevant here they lost interest?

** Or they got their two cents out in the old thread and have moved on?

** Or what?

And I noticed there is spoof thread started my 9ofClubs regarding this subject (which I haven't read yet...bet that's going to be a blast)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90935-THE-EVENT-Meta-Analysis-and-paralysis

:facepalm:

The fun never stops...

[Daozen]

I think most of us realize Cobra has hit that point where he will probably just drift away like a dozen others... If you wanted to continue the discussion, you could speculate on why cures available to Cobra supporters are t0o expensive for 95 percent of people, and of lower quality than current nutritional supplements . \ 0>0 / What does that say about his sponsors? I read his comments section sometimes. You guys are having a bad time down here.

Also, how would you live differently if you knew we were going to be stuck here for another 50 years? I ask myself that question most days.

[Daozen]

Hmmmm. Strange. I was learning programming, and googled "anti-pattern". When I read the description, I found a lot of links that fit the subject of this thread:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-pattern
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult_programming
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_march_(project_management)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_lock-in

*

And here's when it gets really weird:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_Command


Cobra Commander - The leader and founder of the Cobra organization. His face is almost always obscured, either by a hood with only his eyes visible, or by a featureless, high-tech battle helmet attached to various security features. In the Sunbow cartoon, this concealment was used to hide inhuman disfigurement, as well as the later retcon that he was an advance agent from a race of reptilian serpent people known as "Cobra-La". In the comic, it is merely to maintain the secret of his civilian identity. He is regarded as the most dangerous man on Earth because of his ability to attract followers. Only the Baroness and Destro have seen his face.

I am not making this up...


Cobra had its beginnings when the financially ruined man who would become Cobra Commander settled in an American town called Springfield. Blaming the federal government and big business for his misfortunes, he conceived a plan of forming a secret organization to acquire wealth and power and thereby take his revenge on the world. Springfield was a perfect place to start the organization, as the town itself had fallen on hard times and the population was disillusioned. Soon, the organization was growing with the entry of like-minded individuals from all over the country. Much of Cobra’s early funding came from pyramid schemes and other semi-legitimate business plans, and that financial success allowed a gradual and intense takeover.[5]
In a very short time, Cobra evolved from a business into a paramilitary movement. Motivated by greed and power, the group soon expanded all over the country, operating in secret, engaging in terrorism to achieve their objectives. By the time the U.S. government recognized Cobra as a threat, the organization had already gained footholds as a powerful private army and terrorist organization around the world.

Many of its members (especially those in the elite Crimson Guard units) lead seemingly normal lives, supporting Cobra covertly. Cobra attracted members with the promise of fast financial rewards and power for those willing to be ruthless enough. It also offered a world of order and strength, with its "model community" of Springfield being one example of the Cobra ideal.

*


The Sunbow cartoon did not explore how Cobra began. It was only in G.I. Joe: The Movie that it is revealed that the organization was a front runner for a 40,000-year-old underground civilization called Cobra-La, whose snake-like inhabitants were driven underground by the advent of humankind. Cobra Commander was, in actuality, a member of this underground race. He was tasked with creating an organization that would overrun the world at large.

Here's the good news:

https://www.ketto.org/

[Redstar Kachina]

..........

[OMG]

Practice honesty and truthfulness in all your affairs and you will see things as they are, without the need to ping external parties for information that has proven to be unreliable at best.

At first glance this is a good quote but it makes assumptions and accusations that might not be accurate. For example:

1. Assuming one is acting out of honesty/truthfulness, which is how we should act obviously, does not mean we won't have questions or find value in others information. It sounds like any attempt to inquire from others is somehow wrong.

2. The word "need" and making an overall absolute value paradox with this quote is what gives it the inaccurate assumption. An absolute value paradox is a statement that cannot be argued if perceived a certain way, such as saying "I believe that GOD directs my decisions therefore I am never wrong and you cannot disprove GOD."

3. By writing the quote in the first place you have displayed that your honesty/truthfulness is capable of pinging external parties of your information.

All said...I still liked the quote and would hope everyone posting here would always act from the conscience of honesty/truthfulness. We'd definitely be better off...

:)

[Wind]

I think this was posted in some thread recently...

From the Law of One material:

8.5 Questioner: Am I to understand then that the United States has these craft in undersea bases?
Ra: I am Ra. You are correct.

8.6 Questioner: How did the United States learn of the technology to build these land [inaudible]?

Ra: I am Ra. There was a mind/body/spirit complex known to your people by the vibratory sound complex, Nikola. This entity departed the illusion and the papers containing the necessary understandings were taken by mind/body/spirit complexes serving your security of national divisional complex. Thus your people became privy to the basic technology. In the case of those mind/body/spirit complexes which you call Russians, the technology was given from one of the Confederation in an attempt, approximately twenty-seven of your years ago (1954), to share information and bring about peace among your peoples. The entities giving this information were in error, but we did many things at the end of this cycle in attempts to aid your harvest from which we learned the folly of certain types of aid. That is a contributing factor to our more cautious approach at this date, even as the need is power upon power greater, and your people’s call is greater and greater.


So, we have been helped many times in the past. Manipulation has happened too, but now we should fix this mess of ours ourselves. It is irrational to think that our space cousins would once again clean up the mess and we would see them as some messiah-like beings. There needs to be self responsibility or otherwise humanity will never learn from it's past mistakes and will just repeat them endlessly, possibly to the point of extinction. The only "event" I see happening is indeed the shift in the collective consciousness, but it's something which will take time. Perhaps there will be some things which will fasten the shift.

[betoobig]

I think this was posted in some thread recently...

From the Law of One material:

8.5 Questioner: Am I to understand then that the United States has these craft in undersea bases?
Ra: I am Ra. You are correct.

8.6 Questioner: How did the United States learn of the technology to build these land [inaudible]?

Ra: I am Ra. There was a mind/body/spirit complex known to your people by the vibratory sound complex, Nikola. This entity departed the illusion and the papers containing the necessary understandings were taken by mind/body/spirit complexes serving your security of national divisional complex. Thus your people became privy to the basic technology. In the case of those mind/body/spirit complexes which you call Russians, the technology was given from one of the Confederation in an attempt, approximately twenty-seven of your years ago (1954), to share information and bring about peace among your peoples. The entities giving this information were in error, but we did many things at the end of this cycle in attempts to aid your harvest from which we learned the folly of certain types of aid. That is a contributing factor to our more cautious approach at this date, even as the need is power upon power greater, and your people’s call is greater and greater.


So, we have been helped many times in the past. Manipulation has happened too, but now we should fix this mess of ours ourselves. It is irrational to think that our space cousins would once again clean up the mess and we would see them as some messiah-like beings. There needs to be self responsibility or otherwise humanity will never learn from it's past mistakes and will just repeat them endlessly, possibly to the point of extinction. The only "event" I see happening is indeed the shift in the collective consciousness, but it's something which will take time. Perhaps there will be some things which will fasten the shift.

Completly agree. For collective shift in conciousness disclousure and free energy will do, once we see ourselfs as one race, human race, being part of a Galactive neibourhood. In that very moment lots of people who are sleep will wake up big time, enough people to surpass critical mass big time too. Under a quantum perspective it wont be just a quantum jump but a quantum fly. As Wind said nobody can come and solve our problems straight and they, out there, know it. We are allready accomplishing lots of things, still lots to do of course. I consider the Event to be a series of things that allready started and it may take longer than what we will like, but 20 years, for example, in history is a small amount of time. So could the Eventvallready started and we are right in it and dont see it, like in the center of a storm?
To me 20 years is long walk though.

[Peace of Mind]

Except that....most people don't want to see/hear/read or acknowledge that.^^ as you can see...

They clearly want a savior. We are too used to passing responsibilities to others...and then complain about the circumstances. I just can't see any advance race of species/aliens helping out a species that clearly show signs of refusing to help themselves. We have too much worrying, fear, ego, and selfishness ingrained into humanity. We are divided on many levels. Hardly anyone supporting anything that truly unites us while getting our own hands dirty. If human beings are reluctant to help those that don't help themselves...why do we expect aliens to do it? I can see ALIENS helping/saving many of Earth's species from humans...way before saving humans. We have to prove to ourselves our worth before expecting anything/anyone of value to assist us in any way.

Right now...Our only hope seems to be the young/children...as the elders/adults are already trained to obey and be submissive. But then again...just look at how most of us adults are raising the young to be combative and disobedient to one another.

We are our own worse enemies, yet, we can easily be our own heroes. We have to start showcasing our own potential and value if we expect anything/anyone/any species to take us serious.

Peace

[betoobig]

The Hopi Blue Star Kachina appears again! The final sign before the Day of Purification!
In Frank Waters's writings on Hopi mythology, the Blue Star Kachina or Saquasohuh, is a kachina or spirit, that will signify the coming of the beginning of the new world by appearing in the form of a blue star.

The Blue Star Kachina is said to be the ninth and final sign before the "Day of Purification", described as a catastrophe or a "world engulfing cataclysm" that will lead to the purification of planet Earth.



It seems the Hopi prophecy becomes true as in a short period a mysterious blue star or planet appeared in the skies around the world.

Last month a strange blue star or planet was seen in the skies over Arizona and Spain. (See our article: Blue planet-like object appears in the sky over Arizona and Spain ). Now, Dave longtime reader of UFO Sightings Hotspot sent us an image of the same blue object which he captured in the sky over New Hampshire about two weeks ago.

If you compare the three images, it appears to be the same blue object.
From
http://ufosightingshotspot.blogspot.com.es/2016/05/the-hopi-blue-star-kachina-appears.html
Much love


According to the Hopi prophecy, if the blue star Kachina will make it’s appearance, the emergence to the future Fifth World has begun.

Let us take a look into the future through the eyes of the Hopi’s prophets. Hopi were instructed to tell of the Great Purification just ahead of a time when Humankind would once again become highly civilized, tending to become careless and leading us to self-destruction.

They said that, along the way, the industrialized world will have certain problems. People will be uncomfortable because of the changing times, and they will have to make adjustments to find new life styles.

It is said that after the appearance of the Blue Kachina, the Red Kachina will come and will bring the Day of Purification. On this day the Earth and all life as we know it will change forever.

Finally, if the next time the strange blue star appears again in the sky, maybe we should start to take the Hopi prophecy serious.

[Yetti]

Thanks DAOZEN, about BITCOIN, my research led me to an unusual source ,but very interesting: VALDEANDEMAGICO The analisis made by the professor is quite rearkable and ful of sarcastic humor, IN SPANISH< he lives in the Canary Islands, but a well documented guy , google it. I hope you know spanish! , otherwise get a friend to watch it and get the translation.

[Daozen]

Edited so as not to hijack the thread. I'll go bullhorn from somewhere else.

[Lancet]

when i fist joined PA, i asked for some opinions on the event and cobra. the response i got was some to the effect " wake up and smell the roses". it was a kind of tough love. i was a bit hurt and confused, but i moved on and broadened my horizons. Perhaps then i did not know enough or was not aware of all the actors in the alternative media and their agenda. discern that and you will see why avalonians are careful with info - old and new.

wrt cobra and the event - the crux of the matter is whether someone -ET or whatever - saves us or we do it ourselves. hoping someone will come to our aid empowers those whom we put that faith ( vibrational energy, intent and free will) in that entity and moreover time is lost in inaction. empowering our individual selves is far better thing to do.

JT

[AutumnW]

I am confused by the idea that a phase shift that includes a unitary consciousness would be a good thing. It implies that we would all 'be one' all of the time. We would be psychically linked?

This idea may runs counter to the truth -- that the highest achievement of the individual is to fully individuate. His or her actions and intentions are premised on maximizing the freedom of others and him or herself within a sphere of security and affection. Any psychic 'we are all one' feelings are real but sporadic

. To be fully linked on a psychic level could easily undermine our potential for the freedom of thought and action required to fully love another. If we are all one, participating in a phase shift, we may become more hive minded and insectile than higher minded beings linked in an angelic state of grace.

The phase shift ideas that incorporate 'all one' and 'no ego', might be a great way for a hostile race to subvert humanity through planting memes within the collective that sound great but are anything but.

[Enola]

I thought the highest achievement of the individual was to individualise and return back to the whole with its identity intact?

Or go from mass consciousness, to individualised consciousness, to group consciousness.

But this post could be read on so many levels it's hard to say anything final about it.

[PathWalker]

I am confused by the idea that a phase shift that includes a unitary consciousness would be a good thing. It implies that we would all 'be one' all of the time. We would be psychically linked?

This idea may runs counter to the truth -- that the highest achievement of the individual is to fully individuate. His or her actions and intentions are premised on maximizing the freedom of others and him or herself within a sphere of security and affection. Any psychic 'we are all one' feelings are real but sporadic

. To be fully linked on a psychic level could easily undermine our potential for the freedom of thought and action required to fully love another. If we are all one, participating in a phase shift, we may become more hive minded and insectile than higher minded beings linked in an angelic state of grace.

The phase shift ideas that incorporate 'all one' and 'no ego', might be a great way for a hostile race to subvert humanity through planting memes within the collective that sound great but are anything but.

Thank you for this post :bowing:.
Very good explanation of the duality paradox.

In our perception it is not possible to be in hive mentality and obtain individual identity.
The unsatisfying answer is: when we get to this experience we will have different perception about reality. Because we will experience time differently.

If you hold the belief in reincarnation (I PathWlker, know and live it). Than what happened to all those egos/personalities you experienced. Are they gone for ever, or maybe they still exist somehow(same question as above).

[Daozen]

Cobra has just posted, with a straight face, that 'there has been a lot of movement behind the scenes recently' and there will be an update 'soon'. How can people believe that? He's been doing it for 4 years. I look forward to the tired collection of NASA links, private space program experiments, and Zerohedge articles he's diligently compiling. Maybe he'll read this thread and up his game.

If normal human wants to feel the healing beauty of nature, all they have to do is sit under a tree, go to the beach, soak in a hotspring. If a Cobra reader wants a natural cure, they have to drive to the Dakotas and pay 3 dollars a minute to sit under a copper contraption.

"Your own power, 3 USD per minute"

Look at the archive of herbal and nutritional cures we've built up here... all that advice is free. Most of the medicines recommended cost 10-30 USD, which put them in anyone's price range. Selling snake oil to sick people is as low as it goes. All his inner circle know what's going on... none of them care. No one wants to get booted off the subterranean gravy train.

Sorry if I've droned on about this too much, but I feel strongly about what's going on there.

Cobra readers will now be telling themselves I'm a paid disinfo agent trying to test their faith.

:dog:

[/endrant]

[Enola]

One of the things that makes me laugh is all this talk of "healing chambers" when we have a healing chamber outside.

[Agape]

I am confused by the idea that a phase shift that includes a unitary consciousness would be a good thing. It implies that we would all 'be one' all of the time. We would be psychically linked?

This idea may runs counter to the truth -- that the highest achievement of the individual is to fully individuate. His or her actions and intentions are premised on maximizing the freedom of others and him or herself within a sphere of security and affection. Any psychic 'we are all one' feelings are real but sporadic

. To be fully linked on a psychic level could easily undermine our potential for the freedom of thought and action required to fully love another. If we are all one, participating in a phase shift, we may become more hive minded and insectile than higher minded beings linked in an angelic state of grace.

The phase shift ideas that incorporate 'all one' and 'no ego', might be a great way for a hostile race to subvert humanity through planting memes within the collective that sound great but are anything but.


Thanks for mentioning this . It's a hurdle many - if not most - spiritual movements , trends , pathways and their respective aspirants get stuck on.

Reminds me of the narrow mountain path that no one knew of .. except those few faithful individuals and animals perhaps , so it remained pure .. for thousands of years .
That's before someone photographed it , advertised their 'meditations' and made all to corporate business .
The same path is clogged with tourists nowadays and beset with litter . There's a 'corporate business' made from everything .
Corpus = body . People thinking enlightenment is achievable 'en mass' .

It never happened yet in human history ( which does not all mean that one day it won't but the chances are low ) and each of the masters, prophets and enlightened ones of past , presence and future I dare to say where loners . Those who dared to challenge the current paradigm and themselves .
Those who could contemplate the 'Big Truth' without applause and mass support of followers .

How comes that most of their followers , centuries later all dress in 'special robes' , wear 'special hats' and sell each other 'special methods' and teach the doctrine to crowds ..

I tended to think this all happens for those who are ready , even for the one who is ready the sermon is worth it at the end of the day and the one, he/she will leave to do their own work ,
to become no one special but the truth seeker .

You're absolutely right there , without enlightened individuals no 'enlightened society' is possible .

Losing your individuality to someone , or something in the name of whoever can cost dearly .
:flower:

[AutumnW]

Thanks Agape, Pathwalker,

I really hope that anything I write about spiritual evolution isn't seen as an attempt to project the idea that I feel I am particularly enlightened or anything of that nature! I feel I have so much to learn -- on an emotional level, in particular.

I appreciate your thoughts here so much. It really seems like it has to be an individual journey. I hope I make it. But will probably take several lifetimes.

[Daozen]

Cobra cynically strings along the faithful, hinting they are going to get a big shipment of gold. :cash::cash::cash::clapping:

STATE OF MISSION REPORT JUNE 2016
Pandora in progress, EELA in progress, EXMOSS primary sequence in progress. HVBN substable to stable. M=34, Midas package.

They are also begin told they can go and work on the Moon/Mars one day. :cake: Why trust NASA?

[helencrump]

I've been reading articles and listening to podcasts, webinars and youtube videos for a couple of years now. I keep hearing about "THE EVENT". However, no one says what it is or what it looks like. They only say stock up on food and water.

I'm a regular listener to Alex Collier. In the past couple months he has been very positive and said we will feel an energy shift the day after Christmas. So okay, that sounds nice. He was so loving, optimistic and giddy about the future. But then at the very end he says, if you have any unresolved issues with loved ones, now is the time to clear them up so you don't have to live with any regrets. Uh-mmmmm WHAT?

Now I have been feeling pretty happy for a few weeks. :sun: My fear is gone. No more worries. Pretty high on life. But I have to admit that was a bit disturbing.

Can anyone enlighten me one what "The Event" is supposed to look like? I promise I can handle it. :muscle:Like everything else thus far, I get used to concepts fairly quickly. Thank you!:heart:

I'm sorry if this alarms anyone.

[SpookyMulder]

"The Event" will be what you want to project towards the universe, whether it is good or bad.

There is no such thing as future, because we always live in the present. You create your future as you go one second at a time.
You are looking for "enlightenment", you probably already have the answer! :happythumbsup:

The entertainment industry even made a series out of it, it didn't last long though.

[OMG]

There are several post on "The Event" here if you do a word search.

The one I'm most familiar with, and which is the most positive 3D event, is the one perpetuated by Cobra http://2012portal.blogspot.com

Summary: http://prepareforchange.net/the-event/

The stocking up of food/water is only a needed 15 day approximation based on restructuring society and potential limited civil unrest.

I'd speculate that resolving "issues with loved ones" is making sure you don't have unwanted Karma attached to you when we start to awaken. Which basically means that all of the blocakages that have been imposed on us begin to be eliminated. If you haven't deliberately tried to do your best, be honest, etc, then when you begin to awaken you experience the negative ramifications of your actions. It's like when they say you die and see your whole life past before you and feel everything you ever did which was wrong. It's overwhelming.

:Angel:

[shaberon]

Economic collapse, earthquakes, volcanoes, floods, takeover by demons, zombies, aliens, the military, the people, an asteroid, a comet, the earth flying out of orbit...it's not alarming. Prophecies of "Armageddon" have come along every few years ever since someone popularized the concept (centuries ago).

Governments telling the truth?

Spontaneous vacuum decay?

Remember "War of the Worlds" where a radio skit made everyone in New Jersey hop in their cars and head for the hills. Give me a credible threat based on some actionable information and then I'll respond. Even pulling up an astrological chart for 12/26, I don't see anything that would even get our attention. Maybe a Jupiter-Uranus opposition? Of course you should clear up issues with loved ones as soon as it can be done.

I don't blame anyone for some survivalist practices, but, overall, in the U. S., except for the coastal areas and the chance of California going out to sea, or Yellowstone blowing up, I don't think we have natural threats. What people may threaten us with, is kind of a different story...it's so big that it's hard to pin down. I know plenty of places where you can cross the street and have basically gone from heaven to hell. So that leaves me as an Event denier, or, at least, a harshly critical skeptic. Evil is rampant, I'll grant you that, and that is the more reason that if...even if you can't resolve issues with loved ones, make sure they know that you love them no matter how much stupid stuff passed between you.

[WhiteLove]

When we cross over to the other side, that is one event.

But what I see is actually a possibility is that humans socially and collectively start to work more towards peace and truth, this can happen with various discoveries as "boosters". Like only one big discovery of something true and profound that really converts something very false to true among people can make the ball rolling much faster. Eventhough this is not "the event" it is "an event" that is part of some other events that really contribute to acceleration towards truth.

The combination of having many things providing more truth at the same time, is definitely in my view a form of event. Like already if you would have a music service with all music ever recorded in one huge database in CD quality, this would be a major shift for humans and I think that is why we don't have that, similarly to why we don't have more serious investments into free energy research. But when Tidal was released this was a really good example of humans expressing the need for a more true representation of something spiritually important and it happened.

But these kinds of limitations humans will not accept forever, there will be a moment when humans collectively cross the line and collectively state what they want and need and we are moving closer and closer to that every day. And it will be kind of like this: "Why do we have this limitation, this is so stupid and why do we have that limitation, that sucks". It could be anything, like for instance regional restrictions to content online, suddenly some online site pops up where people on a massive scale express what they truly desire and what they think sucks and collectively people will start to work together towards creating more true and much less limiting solutions to common stuff that has previously negatively impacted all...

The concept of having a president is I think something that will fade, because it does not bring real and true change, it is the same pattern repeating over and over. People will at some point get it.

Also want to remind about Greer's latest movie project, Sirius Disclosure topped the Netflix documentary chart, his upcoming movie could have even more impact, once those kinds of trends are established change is coming... And when the acceleration towards truth has lasted for a while, some more major events will occur.

[betoobig]

it is here allready, may this be it???
fCyLWFZoAlE
Much love

[christian]

I'm pretty sure this is what "the event" looks like ;)

https://martinturnbull.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/dangling-carrot.jpg

[betoobig]

Dear Chrystian i do respect what you say, but can´t agree at all. The so called event is really a mass awakening, a mass awakening which is about to happen, it almost happened many times, but we didn´t make it. It is more than time to put and end to our slavery, and only mass awakening will do. It may not look like we all want but it surely happening in a world scale. We are truely the creators of our reality, we now here at Avalon. Now you tell me what possibly happen with a mass, world wide, awakening? What happened to you when you awakened? Of course this is an event never done before, we should call it event becouse of its importance, we are about to be really free. After that it may take a week it may take longer but life on earth is about to take a leap, and, for god´s shake, let´s visualize it like a huge love blanket falling on us all. Yes i know, world is f*** up, we have lots of things to do and purge from the collective conciousness. Many things to change.
I dont need to believe in the event, just whatch...
In-joy the ride...
and, much love

[christian]

What happened to you when you awakened?

Nothing really happened to me, I just washed my mouth and had a tea.

But seriously, I believe the only real event ever is always now. The awakening is realizing one's full creative potential right now. It's a very personal thing, it's happening individually, not by the grace of some higher force but by one's own determination. Everything else is a dangling carrot.

[betoobig]

What happened to you when you awakened?

Nothing really happened to me, I just washed my mouth and had a tea.

But seriously, I believe the only real event ever is always now. The awakening is realizing one's full creative potential right now. It's a very personal thing, it's happening individually, not by the grace of some higher force but by one's own determination. Everything else is a dangling carrot.

nothing? so you are the same as before awakening? you act the same? you care about the same issues? so you got to know how we´ve been fouled, and nothing happen to you? Sorry doesn´t sound real to me.
But ofcourse is a personal thing, but when realizing our true potential as co-creators, co-creators, at a personal level first, we will focus collectively towards our soverignity and freedome. Done deal to me, really.
Mass arresting of high profile people going on around the globe, as announced. People getting toguether at Standing Rock, as announced in hopi profecy. Planet X not coming, meetings in Antártida going on, the mandela effect... I am not saying to believe in anything but to have ears to hear and eyes to see. This, so called, event had never ever happen in our galaxi, even if we had tryed. So it may be either a carrot either what i am saying, but surely things are about to shift big time. ANd you are right it is allways now! and more tan realizing our creative potential it is our creational potential, quiet diferent.
Enjoy your tea, and much love

[Bill Ryan]

There are several post on "The Event" here if you do a word search.

The one I'm most familiar with, and which is the most positive 3D event, is the one perpetuated by Cobra http://2012portal.blogspot.com



Yes, I've just merged the various threads into one. Various points here on offer from myself!


Anything posted by Cobra can be safely discounted (in my very strong personal opinion). :)



It checks all the boxes of unspecific, in some cases delusional or illusory, wishful-thinking New Age nonsense. We've seen this in many guises (dozens!) over the years.



Awakening is a reality. But it's a gradually growing (and I think accelerating) process, not an 'event'.



Stocking up on food and water -- yep, easy to do, and probably smart as well for every reason one might think of. :thumbsup: Costs very little, and none of the food need go to waste.

[Daozen]

The only mass arrests we'll ever see are those of Cobra and his followers themselves. They are all neck deep in fraud, and could all serve long jail sentences one day.

- The Chintamanai stones are just rebranded Saffordite from Arizona, at a very hefty markup, I'm sure. Consumer fraud.:cash::cash::cash:
- They sell healing devices for way over 10,000USD. Defrauding people suffering from illnesses makes the Cobra group just about the sickest people on Earth. Medical fraud.:cash::cash::cash:

This is the time of The Great Awakening. Just like in the 60s and 70s, TPTB are saturating the scene with cults to act as a dragnet for awakening humans.

"The Event" is plagarized from a Barbara Marcinak book from the 70s, IIRC.

[WhiteLove]

While Boyd Bushman was alive he was interviewed by David Sereda in the 'From Here To Andromeda' movie and in this interview he actually leaked information about a coming asteroid impact on 2036 that he had inside information on. To me Boyd appears genuine, so I think it could be true that he has been part of looking into this. This is the best indicative data that I have found regarding the possibility of "the event". But 2036 is so far into the future and we have at that point accelerated our level of truth to such an extent that I think it makes sense that some kind of transition could actually occur then.

Barbara Marciniak channeled "pleadians" in the book "Bringers of Dawn" and in this content she mentioned that there will be a moment of "Divine Ecstacy of Knowing". This I think might be true, instinctively I can feel it is almost as if I in the past have gone through that before. I have tried to vet out this content technically and what I concluded was that I could not just vet it out as garbage because technically it amounted to being sharper than some of the content produced by respected researchers like Stanton Friedman, so to technically vet it out as garbage I would first have to vet out Stanton's content as such and that I am not ready to do. So there could be a kernel of truth to Barbara's "Bringers of Dawn".

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[Daozen]

Barbara Marciniak channeled "pleadians" in the book "Bringers of Dawn" and in this content she mentioned that there will be a moment of "Divine Extacy of Knowing". This I think might be true, instinctively I can feel it is almost as if I in the past have gone through that before.

There could well be a flash of energy, an explosion of unity, a sudden planetary awakening... White Love. Who am I to say that couldn't happen one day, even tomorrow? I think we all feel that something is going on. If we are snowballing towards critical mass, sitting on our elbows waiting for the white hats to liberate us is the best way to slow down the process of planetary resurrection, hence my mistrust of the 2012 pretenders.

[WhiteLove]

Barbara Marciniak channeled "pleadians" in the book "Bringers of Dawn" and in this content she mentioned that there will be a moment of "Divine Extacy of Knowing". This I think might be true, instinctively I can feel it is almost as if I in the past have gone through that before.

There could well be a flash of energy, an explosion of unity, a sudden planetary awakening... White Love. Who am I to say that couldn't happen one day, even tomorrow? I think we all feel that something is going on. If we are snowballing towards critical mass, sitting on our elbows waiting for the white hats to liberate us is the best way to slow down the process of planetary resurrection, hence my mistrust of the 2012 pretenders.

Yep. The sign that makes me think we are not close to "the event" still, is because the rate of truth acceleration is still somewhat low at least from my perspective, the first signs of the event being near would be some form of revolution on the global scale and also that you could really sense that humans are now coming together for real and that they mean it. Like a global peace movement for instance. The closest right now is "anonymous", this could be indicative of a generation of similar, we have for instance also Wikileaks.. And of course PA dedicated to awakening... I think also a peace oriented movement needs to sweep the world, that would be a clear sign of truth acceleration. But once we are accelerating at such a rate I do think it is possible we could experience some major shifts in consciousness.

I think it is important that we understand that we are accelerating in truth, it is just that the rate of acceleration is still a bit low. The nice thing about acceleration though is that it accelerates...

I am by the way closely monitoring the financial markets right now (because SSE shifted to a down trend when we went into the December month), such a system breaking down from its own "wheels of false" would logically be where I would look for signs of the false starting to break down.

[Bill Ryan]

While Boyd Bushman was alive he was interviewed by David Sereda in the 'From Here To Andromeda' movie and in this interview he actually leaked information about a coming asteroid impact on 2036 that he had inside information on.

He was talking about asteroid Apophis. The updated calculation of impact risk appears to be somewhere between minimal and zero.


http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/apophis

[WhiteLove]

While Boyd Bushman was alive he was interviewed by David Sereda in the 'From Here To Andromeda' movie and in this interview he actually leaked information about a coming asteroid impact on 2036 that he had inside information on.

He was talking about asteroid Apophis. The updated calculation of impact risk appears to be somewhere between minimal and zero.


http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/apophis


Thanks Bill, incredibly interesting to get more information on this! The question is now whether Boyd had access to some more precise data only accessible in the black world... or rather that he was more just trying to impress. But Boyd in general did not appear to speak out of assumptions, so I think he might have had access to some other data source.

Interestingly the report stated the following:

"The study did NOT compute new impact probabilities. This is because important physical parameters (such as mass and spin pole) that affect its trajectory have not yet been measured and hence there are no associated probability distributions."

[betoobig]

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Much love

[Bill Ryan]

I've been reading articles and listening to podcasts, webinars and youtube videos for a couple of years now. I keep hearing about "THE EVENT". However, no one says what it is or what it looks like. They only say stock up on food and water.

I'm a regular listener to Alex Collier. In the past couple months he has been very positive and said we will feel an energy shift the day after Christmas. So okay, that sounds nice. He was so loving, optimistic and giddy about the future. But then at the very end he says, if you have any unresolved issues with loved ones, now is the time to clear them up so you don't have to live with any regrets. Uh-mmmmm WHAT?

Now I have been feeling pretty happy for a few weeks. :sun: My fear is gone. No more worries. Pretty high on life. But I have to admit that was a bit disturbing.

Can anyone enlighten me one what "The Event" is supposed to look like? I promise I can handle it. :muscle:Like everything else thus far, I get used to concepts fairly quickly. Thank you!:heart:

I'm sorry if this alarms anyone.

I had a look for Alex Collier talking about this — because I know helencrump has quite some attention on it — but was unable to find a reference.

Is there an MP3 or anything on YouTube?

For anyone who may be concerned, I do have to say, if I may, that in my very strong opinion, nothing at all is going to happen the day after Christmas. Except, maybe, for a lot of people clearing things up, saying goodbye to visiting friends and relatives (only because they're returning to where they live! :) ), and, probably one or two people nursing their hangovers.

For those new to this kind of thing, these pronouncements can feel very exciting — until nothing happens on the predicted day. I have literally lost count of the number of times I've seen these predictions come... and go.

I've met Alex Collier, and he's an impressive man, and I liked him a lot — but, he makes money from this kind of thing (though, probably NOT a very great deal). Very few alternative media prophets ever say anything publicly about how they were wrong. They ignore their error, and just set a new date (or, maybe, a new event).


This is the fake news.
This is what makes people look stupid in front of their friends and family, when nothing whatsoever happens.
This, like the 'Flat Earth' (and the Blue Avians!), discredits the very serious investigative work that many alternative media journalists and researchers are trying to do.
This is the source of saccharine-coated false hope, when our attention should maybe be on what's really happening in the world.
This is also an addiction, of a kind (it's a kind of ungrounded escapism, that makes us feel better: wine is more expensive than watching YouTube)... see other forum threads about this.

[anandacate]

I had a look for Alex Collier talking about this — because I know helencrump has quite some attention on it — but was unable to find a reference.

Is there an MP3 or anything on YouTube?


Alex Collier had a webinar on December 16, 2016. A 72-hour rental costs $3.69 at Vimeo:

https://vimeo.com/ondemand/alexcollierwebinar23/196207359

At around 34:20 Alex talks about a cosmic wave coming to Earth 12-26-16 (give or take a day or two). He basically says it is a "balm" and a good thing--nothing to worry about. We need to embrace it and not be afraid of it. It could cause some mechanical difficulties that can be fixed.

[Billy Vasiliadis]

The (non) Event. Heheh.

But in all seriousness, I am going to have to agree with the posters who are saying that it is best that we take predictions like this with a huge grain of salt, as we have seen them come and go many a time.

[ghostrider]

When we can leave our neck of the woods and fly in cosmic space , eveything will change ... we will fall under a federation with many rules ...

[DeDukshyn]

If variables line up right, change will occur across this planet almost like a "wave", but I'm not sure an actual "wave" of strange energy will sweep the earth - maybe - who knows.

But on a more practical level, I can see shifts in human consciousness causing massive near instantaneous change - perhaps a reaction that flows through the human collective consciousness ... maybe a strong impetus is needed to trigger such, but in what I can deduct / calculate / speculate within my knowledge of psychology (have a bit of formal education) / spirituality and generally how the mind works - I can't rule out an "event" of mass change. Perhaps a bit off topic. :) My 2 cents.

[onawah]

If it is indeed approaching the end of the Kali Yuga and the beginning of the new Mayan Calendar, we can expect to see some very cosmological energetic changes, I would think.
An interesting article from Graham Hancock's website here:
https://grahamhancock.com/dmisrab6/
...which considers these issues.

The end of the Kali Yuga in 2025: Unraveling the mysteries of the Yuga Cycle
Bibhu Dev Misra
Published 15th July 2012
About the author: Bibhu Dev Misra is a graduate of the Indian Institute of Technology and the Indian Institute of Management and has been working as an Information Technology consultant for more than 14 years. He is also an independent researcher and writer on topics related to ancient civilizations, myths, symbols, science and religion. His research has taken him to many places of historical interest across the globe. His articles have appeared in different journals, magazines, and websites including the New Dawn, Science to Sage, Comsomath, Graham Hancock Forum, Esamskriti, Viewzone and others. He can be contacted at bibhumisra@gmail.com and via his personal blog: http://bibhudev.blogspot.com
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Part 1: Unraveling the Yuga Cycle Timeline

The Yuga Cycle doctrine tells us that we are now living in the Kali Yuga; the age of darkness, when moral virtue and mental capabilities reach their lowest point in the cycle. The Indian epic The Mahabharata describes the Kali Yuga as the period when the “World Soul” is Black in hue; only one quarter of virtue remains, which slowly dwindles to zero at the end of the Kali Yuga. Men turn to wickedness; disease, lethargy, anger, natural calamities, anguish and fear of scarcity dominate. Penance, sacrifices and religious observances fall into disuse. All creatures degenerate. Change passes over all things, without exception.

The Kali Yuga (Iron Age) was preceded by three others Yugas: Satya or Krita Yuga (Golden Age), Treta Yuga (Silver Age) and the Dwapara Yuga (Bronze Age). In the Mahabharata, Hanuman gives the following description of the Yuga Cycle to the Pandava prince Bhima:

"The Krita Yuga was so named because there was but one religion, and all men were saintly: therefore they were not required to perform religious ceremonies… Men neither bought nor sold; there were no poor and no rich; there was no need to labour, because all that men required was obtained by the power of will…The Krita Yuga was without disease; there was no lessening with the years; there was no hatred, or vanity, or evil thought whatsoever; no sorrow, no fear. All mankind could attain to supreme blessedness. The universal soul was White… the identification of self with the universal soul was the whole religion of the Perfect Age. In the Treta Yuga sacrifices began, and the World Soul became Red; virtue lessened a quarter. Mankind sought truth and performed religious ceremonies; they obtained what they desired by giving and by doing. In the Dwapara Yuga the aspect of the World Soul was Yellow: religion lessened one-half. The Veda was divided into four parts, and although some had knowledge of the four Vedas, others knew but three or one. Mind lessened, Truth declined, and there came desire and diseases and calamities; because of these men had to undergo penances. It was a decadent Age by reason of the prevalence of sin.”[1]

And now we are living in the dark times of the Kali Yuga, when goodness and virtue has all but disappeared from the world. But when did the Kali Yuga begin? And when does it end? In spite of the elaborate theological framework which describes the characteristics of this age, the start and end dates of the Kali Yuga remain shrouded in mystery. The popularly accepted date for the beginning of the Kali Yuga is 3102 BC, thirty-five years after the conclusion of the great battle of the Mahabharata. This is remarkably close to the proposed beginning of the current “Great Cycle” of the Mayan Long Count Calendar in 3114 BC. It is of interest to note that in both of these cases the beginning dates of the respective cycles were calculated retrospectively. The Mayans had recomputed their ancient calendars sometime between 400 BC to 50 CE, at the ceremonial center of Izapa in Mexico, and fixed the starting date of the current Great Cycle of their Long Count Calendar. And in India, sometime around 500 CE, a major review of the Indian calendric systems had taken place. It was during this time that the renowned astronomer Aryabhatta had identified the beginning date of the Kali Yuga as 3102 BC. Why was it suddenly necessary for two ancient civilizations to re-calculate dates that should have been an integral part of their calendric systems? How did such important time-markers slip out of their collective memory? We will revisit these questions later.
Much more at the link.

[onawah]

The article linked to above in post # 119 gets most interesting about halfway through, beginning with this chart:
https://grahamhancock.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/DMisraB6-3.jpg

This Yuga Cycle timeline takes the beginning of the Golden Age to 12676 BC, more than 14,500 years before present, when the Great Bear was in the “Shravana” nakshatra (the Great Bear will advance by 3 nakshtras in every Yuga because of the 300 year transitional period). This agrees very well with the Indian tradition, since the Mahabharata mentions that in the ancient tradition the Shravana nakshatra was given the first place in the Nakshatra cycle. The timeline also indicates that the ascending Kali Yuga, which is the current epoch in which we are living, will end in 2025 CE. The full manifestation of the next Yuga – the ascending Dwapara – will take place in 2325 CE, after a transitional period of 300 years. The ascending Dwapara Yuga will then be followed by two more Yugas: the ascending Treta Yuga and the ascending Satya Yuga, which will complete the 12,000 year ascending cycle. The Sanskrit text Brahma-vaivarta Purana describes a dialogue between Lord Krishna and the Goddess Ganges. Here, Krishna says that after 5,000 years of Kali Yuga there will be a dawn of a new Golden Age which will last for 10,000 years (Text 50, 59). This can be immediately understood in the context of the Yuga Cycle timeline described here. We are now ending the Kali Yuga, nearly 5,700 years since its beginning in 3676 BC. And the end of the Kali Yuga will be followed by three more Yugas spanning 9,000 years, before the ascending cycle ends.


Part 2: The archaeological and historical evidence

According to the Yuga Cycle doctrine, the transitional periods between Yugas are always associated with a worldwide collapse of civilizations and severe environmental catastrophes, which wipe out virtually every trace of any human civilization. The new civilization that emerges in the new Yuga is guided by a few survivors of the cataclysm, who carry with them the technical and spiritual knowledge of the previous epoch. Many ancient sources tell us of the enigmatic group of “Seven Sages” (“Saptarsi”) who are said to appear at the beginning of every Yuga and promulgate the arts of civilization. We find them in myths from across the world – in Sumeria, India, Polynesia, South America and North America. They possessed infinite wisdom and power, could travel over land and water, and took on various forms at will. Were they the survivors of the previous Yuga or visitors from outer space? Opinions differ on this point, but surely neither option can be discarded without proper scrutiny. In any case, the main point is that the transitional periods between Yugas must necessarily correlate with the severe cataclysmic events that regularly impact our planet, as reflected in the archeological records. As we shall see, the Yuga Cycle timeline proposed here correlates with these catastrophic events with a stunning accuracy. In addition, the transitional periods can also be correlated with dates recorded in various ancient calendars and traditions.

The first transitional period in the 12,000 year descending Yuga Cycle is the 300 year period at the end of the Golden Age from 9976 BC – 9676 BC. This is the time when the last Ice Age came to a sudden end; the climate became very warm quite abruptly, and several large mammalian species such as the woolly mammoth became extinct. A number of scientific studies show that a devastating global flood occurred at around 9600 BC.[22] This is in accordance with many ancient traditions and legends. In the Timaeus, Plato talks of the mythical island of Atlantis, which was swallowed up by the sea in a “single day and night of misfortune” in c.9600 BC. This event has also been recorded in the flood myths of many ancient cultures, which almost uniformly talk of enormous walls of water that submerged the entire land to the highest mountain tops, accompanied by heavy rain, fireballs from the sky, intense cold and long periods of darkness. In the Indian tradition, this flood took place at the end of the Satya Yuga (Golden Age). The survivor of this great deluge was Manu, the progenitor of mankind, who is placed at the head of the genealogy of Indian kings.

What could have led to this sudden worldwide deluge? Archaeologist Bruce Masse of the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico had examined a sample of 175 flood myths from different cultures around the world and concluded that the environmental aspects described in these events, which is also consistent with the archaeological and geophysical data, could have only been precipitated by a destructive, deep-water, oceanic comet impact.[23] In 2008, a team of Danish geologists from the Niels Bohr Institute (NBI) in Copenhagen studied the ice core data from Greenland, and concluded that the ice age ended exactly in 9703 BC. Researcher Jorgen Peder Steffensen said that, “in the transition from the ice age to our current warm, interglacial period the climate shift is so sudden that it is as if a button was pressed”[24]. More recently, in 2012, an international team of scientists concluded that the earth was bombarded by a meteorite storm nearly 12,000 years ago, which effectively ended the ice age, and led to the end of a prehistoric civilization and the extinction of many animal species.[25] It is interesting to note that the 9703 BC date for the sudden climate shift falls within the 300 year transitional period at the end of the Golden Age from 9976 BC – 9676 BC, and as such, it provides the first important validation of the Yuga Cycle timeline identified here.

The 300 year transitional period between the Treta Yuga (Silver Age) and the Dwapara Yuga (Bronze Age) from 6976 BC – 6676 BC also coincides with a significant environmental event – the Black Sea Catastrophe which has recently been dated to 6700 BC. The Black Sea once used to be a freshwater lake. That is, until the Mediterranean Sea, swollen with melted glacial waters, breached a natural dam, and cut through the narrow Bosphorous Strait, catastrophically flooding the Black Sea. This raised the water levels of the Black Sea by several hundred feet, flooded more than 60,000 square miles of land, and significantly expanded the Black Sea shoreline (by around 30%).[26] This event fundamentally changed the course of civilization in Southeastern Europe and western Anatolia. Geologists Bill Ryan and Walter Pitman of Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory in New York, who had first proposed the Black Sea Catastrophe hypothesis, have gone to the extent of comparing it to Noah’s Flood.

Similar major flooding events were taking place in many parts of the world, as massive glacial lakes, swelled by the waters of the melting ice, breached their ice barriers, and rushed into the surrounding areas. In the book Underworld, Graham Hancock has described some of the terrible events that ravaged the planet during that time. Sometime between 6900 BC – 6200 BC the Laurentide ice-sheet disintegrated in the Hudson Bay and an enormous quantity of glacial waters from the inland Lake Agassiz/Ojibway discharged into the Labrador Sea. This was possibly the “single largest flood of the Quarternary Period”, which may have single-handedly raised global sea-level by half a metre.[27] The period between 7000 BC – 6000 BC was also characterized by the occurrences of gigantic earthquakes in Europe. In northern Sweden, some of these earthquakes caused “waves on the ground”, 10 metres high, referred to as “rock tsunamis”. It is possible that the global chain of cataclysmic events during this transitional period may have been triggered by a single underlying cause, which we are yet to find out.
More follows, and then the articles concludes with this:

In recent years, many independent historians and researchers have realized that the concept of a Yuga Cycle is a far better descriptor of ancient history, than the model of linear progress favored by mainstream historians. Egyptologist John Anthony West, whose seminal work on the dating of the Sphinx has won him worldwide acclaim, mentions in his article “Consider the Kali Yuga” that:

“Since Egypt’s Old Kingdom, up until very recently…civilization has been going down, not up; simple as that. We can follow that degenerative process physically in Egypt; it is written into the stones and it is unmistakable. The same tale is told in the mythologies and legends of virtually all other societies and civilizations the world over…Progress does not go in a straight line from primitive ancestors to smart old us with our bobblehead dolls and weapons of mass destruction; our traffic jams and our polluted seas, skies and lands. There is another, and far more realistic, way to view history. Plato talked about a cycle of Ages: Golden, Silver, Bronze and Iron (or Dark) Age; a cycle, a wave form – not a straight line. A similar understanding is reflected by virtually all other ancient accounts. The best known, and by far the most elaborately developed of these systems, is the Hindu, with its Yuga Cycle, which corresponds to the Platonic idea of four definable Ages.”[30]

It is evident that the original Yuga Cycle was based on the Saptarsi Calendar. It was of 12,000 years duration, comprised of four Yugas of equal duration of 2,700 years each, separated by transitional periods of 300 years. The complete Yuga Cycle of 24,000 years was comprised of an ascending and descending Yuga cycle, which followed each other for eternity like the cycles of day and night. For the past 2,700 years we have been evolving through the ascending Kali Yuga, and this Yuga is coming to an end in 2025. The end of the Yuga will inevitably be followed by cataclysmic earth changes and civilization collapses, as is characteristic of the transitional periods. The Dwapara Yuga is fundamentally different from the Kali in its spiritual and material dimensions, as can be gleaned from the ancient texts. Hence, we may anticipate far-reaching changes in our environment, and possibly in our cosmic neighborhood, as we transition to this period of enhanced consciousness. The current upswing in tectonic activities and the increased incidence of extreme weather phenomena may be indicative of the fact that we are slowly entering into a period of volatile earth changes. We need to be aware of these greater cycles of time that govern human civilization, and the changes that are looming in the horizon.
...and finally, the long list of references.

[OMG]

There are several post on "The Event" here if you do a word search.

The one I'm most familiar with, and which is the most positive 3D event, is the one perpetuated by Cobra http://2012portal.blogspot.com



Yes, I've just merged the various threads into one. Various points here on offer from myself!


Anything posted by Cobra can be safely discounted (in my very strong personal opinion). :)



It checks all the boxes of unspecific, in some cases delusional or illusory, wishful-thinking New Age nonsense. We've seen this in many guises (dozens!) over the years.



Awakening is a reality. But it's a gradually growing (and I think accelerating) process, not an 'event'.



Stocking up on food and water -- yep, easy to do, and probably smart as well for every reason one might think of. :thumbsup: Costs very little, and none of the food need go to waste.



Your points Bill are very rational, measured and conservative...all of which are reasonable. None of us should fall prey to mere beLIEf.

Most of Cobra's information cannot be verified, except loosely through the various supporting links and information that is periodically posted on his site or spoken about in his updates. This is obviously not enough for most people. His explanation to withhold critical validating criteria is similar to any Government that claims national security reasons. In other word, if he divulged too much it would compromise the Resistance efforts.

Of course the Government (cabal) has verifiable POWER to back it's position up. Yet to be fair Cobra points out many verifiable activities (powers) that seem to be reducing the cabal's hold.

There is definitely an acceleration taking place. The question is what is "gradual" acceleration? The last 100 years science and technology have accelerated beyond all of the known recorded centuries prior. That acceleration is crazy! You've got to wonder is a type of critical mass effect about to happen? Hence, and EVENT type of scenario.

I might add that news, video and audio can be be faked to such a degree that the line between reality and lies is almost indecipherable. This alone beckons the consideration that something beyond "gradual" could soon happen. Let's just hope it's not our destruction...

[betoobig]

May i insists. This huge wave of gamma rays has never been seen before, and it is documented. What are your thoughts on this ??please. This is real.
fCyLWFZoAlE
Perhaps it should be in a different thread and it is me who is mixing things up ?
Much love

[The Freedom Train]

We can clearly see by the numerous topics about ”THE EVENT” that there is a plethora of healthy skepticism against it.

But let’s take a different approach. What “evidence/scenario” would compel YOU enough to believe that such a thing is possible or even likely?

I’m NOT looking for why you don’t believe in it. I’m looking for why you could believe in it.

Please be as concise as possible.

:)

I will believe in it when I personally feel my heart fully opened and flowing, when I notice that my mind is free, when I have the kind of boundless energy and vitality that I know I am capable of, and when I notice that everyone else around me is also in this vibrational space, consciously creating out of love alone. I will need time to watch and see what transpires within myself and outside of myself with other people and society at large in order to ensure that any personal experiences I had that would signal a potential "event" to me would not end up being "false flag" manipulations of my mind/energy bodies.

[The Freedom Train]

People WANT to believe in fantasy. It's sugar-coated escapism. The hard reality (like math homework) is much harder to face up to.

Especially since there seems to be so much deception, so many truths that are hidden "for our own good" , for military/political/economic reasons, etc.

If 4% of the universe is palpable and perceivable by our five senses, and scientists don't even know what the other 96% is made of (http://www.space.com/11642-dark-matter-dark-energy-4-percent-universe-panek.html)), then how much of our reality can we even debate about? Where does reality end and fantasy begin? And who has the right to absolutely define either one?

[The Freedom Train]

Hoping every day to be rescued (by the ETs, a lottery ticket, or anything else) — is not healthy, smart, or wise.

Could it happen? Maybe. But what's the point of hoping it might happen, or (worse!) waiting for it to happen?

That's why this is a trap.

The trap of hope. The attachment that the Buddha refers to is the same. The answer?

In the face of such a "reality" as we are presented with, who sees the possibility of positive change, in the face of an endless cycle of slavery, poverty, opression of the masses in a myriad of iterations and forms? As an intelligent person with personal experiences that open one's eyes to the problematic nature of creating from a dualistic mind, how does one find meaning and purpose in life?

Is hope for collective spiritual evolution a trap, or part of the answer? Does it even matter? Hope for it, disdain for it, scepticism of it, indifference for it - do these even matter? Do we have absolute control?

Do we *really* get ahead when we do our math homework???

"The Master's Tools Will Never Dismantle the Master's House." - Audre Lorde.

Even someone as visible as Eckhart Tolle (whose placement and position is still questionable to me) has promoted the necessity of a massive shift in consciousness to arrest the demise of our species. What I am faced with, having seen and experienced much in my as of yet short existence, and having given myself enough time to analyze the data, is the frustration of seeing that unless I can grow wings and fly, I will be swallowed up by the consumption of the earth's surface in flames - or I will lead a life of false freedom. The question is HOW does this evolution take place???

Did Darwin discover species that "willed" themselves to mutate in ways that enabled them to adapt and continue?

Some people make a lot of money off other people's fantasies or desires to escape the face value "reality" that is being presented to them - so of course our desire for a face value reality that is kinder, gentler, more loving, is also exploited at every turn. Feints within feints, shills, blanket mind control, propaganda, misdirection, torture - the confluence of forces that work in concert to ensure confusion and division in the face of what may very well be the rising tides of collective spiritual evolution, come hell or high water.

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THE EVENT as I understand it is meant to rectify the negative and disproportional power structure from the elite cabal and negative alien influences. It's one thing for humanity to take personal responsibility and fix their own problems (which we should, and that usually takes time and lots of sweat equity). However, it's a totally different game when the reason this can't or hasn't worked is because of the advanced cabal/alien superiority that thwarts every attempt to fix the problems.

It therefore seem reasonable to conclude that if there are negative aliens and forces at work to harm and control us that it could reach a point where positive forces intervene and assist us to fight back successfully...hence THE EVENT.

Agreed.

[The Freedom Train]

Consider, if there are advanced negative alien races who are working behind the scenes here on earth to manipulate and control the masses into actions and behaviors that benefit them. Then use a similar comparison with how easily it would be for modern human covert agencies to trick primitive tribes into believing in all sorts of things. Now imagine how much easier advance beings could manipulate and engineer our society.

As such, it's possible that humanity is the way it is due to said manipulation.

Of course we could argue that humans are inherently negative and all of the bad things are strictly a result of our actions alone.

This is the most plausible theory that I have come across, and is one that I tend to lean towards myself. I also disagree with the ever convenient message that we are all "sinners" - clearly, IMO, evildoing humans are being manipulated, co-opted, blackmailed/threatened, are possessed.

[The Freedom Train]

things are the way they are because humanity wants them that way.

If this is true then why are so many people praying for apocalypse, drugging themselves in a never ending array of escapist activities?

[The Freedom Train]

1) If the Event is esoteric and has to do with a leap in human consciousness, then all opinions and mind chatter about it actually hinders it. A spiritual breakthrough can only happen through Heart, so mental analyses don't help. We have to let it flourish by itself without putting up mental barriers and expectations.

2) If the Event has to do with mundane activities like a new financial system, arrests and "official" first contact, then it's quite obvious that it is a form of manipulation and it is orchestrated by entities with self-interest.

3) The Event can be both of the above, depending on where each person stands inside.

Brilliant. Thank you.

[skogvokter]

May i insists. This huge wave of gamma rays has never been seen before, and it is documented. What are your thoughts on this ??please. This is real.
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Perhaps it should be in a different thread and it is me who is mixing things up ?
Much love

Perhaps it should have it's own thread?

[The Freedom Train]

Or just waiting to be saved without doing what it takes for it to happen. Like if caterpillars were to say "Instead of going through metamorphosis, let's wait for someone to come and transform us into butterflies" (?)

Do caterpillars know that they will transform into butterflies when they build their cocoons?

Are we able to will our own spiritual evolution into being? Or is it a larger shift that is more or less sweeping us along with the rising tide?

What do we need to do to "make it happen"? What are your thoughts on willing your own spiritual awakening into existence?

My experience has revealed that our awakening most likely is not a product of any mentally defined action or thought process - seeing as how the mind creates duality, can be easily manipulated by external forces (aka mind control technologies), and is the seat of the ego.

So, again, how does one "take action" in any way that will NOT recreate the mental prisons that have been engineered for us, the ones that we also uphold with our thoughts and actions? How does one utilize the mind to awaken from its trance?

"For the master's tools will never dismantle the master's house." - Audre Lord

[The Freedom Train]

its just my point of view, but i believe that we are currently going through an active phase of the so called 'event' or global rise of consciousness.

This is my sense as well.

[Bill Ryan]

What are your thoughts on willing your own spiritual awakening into existence?



Well, we don't magically get any spiritual awakening suddenly happening to us, handed out on a free silver platter. :)

Ask any Tibetan Lama who's been on the path for dozens of lifetimes. This doesn't happen overnight, and doesn't happen without


work
discipline
application
dedication
commitment
the absence of ego.

[The Freedom Train]

Well, we don't magically get any spiritual awakening suddenly happening to us, handed out on a free silver platter. :)

Ask any Tibetan Lama who's been on the path for dozens of lifetimes. This doesn't happen overnight, and doesn't happen without


work
discipline
application
dedication
commitment
the absence of ego.


Excellent point Bill. I would like to counter with the suggestion that spiritual awakening can and does "magically" happen to us, free silver platter and all. My own process of awakening serves as my experiential knowledge of this phenomenon.

[Eagle Eye]

I see two divided opinions but I think the answer lies right in the middle of them. Those who see spiritual awakening as an individual path and those who see as an outside help are partially right. I think the awakening is individual and by our own free will, but only if our free will allow us to be guided ( God or spiritual beings, angels, higher self ... ). The way to awakening is unique but the basic rules are the same for all of us.

[The Freedom Train]

Awakening is a reality. But it's a gradually growing (and I think accelerating) process, not an 'event'.

My own experience supports the theory that awakening is a process, and that it is accelerating. I cannot, however, rule out the possibility of an event that exponentially accelerates the process even more.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Well, we don't magically get any spiritual awakening suddenly happening to us, handed out on a free silver platter. :)

Ask any Tibetan Lama who's been on the path for dozens of lifetimes. This doesn't happen overnight, and doesn't happen without


work
discipline
application
dedication
commitment
the absence of ego.


Very true, spiritually speaking on an individual level. The beginning of, however, a 'mass global awakening' of another type, could actually happen with something completely non-spiritual.

Disclosure.

If actual disclosure happened (whether intentionally or leaked), on everything from extra-terrestrials to our true world history, as well as the true origins of man, the release of hidden knowledge and hidden technology, then boy, I do reckon mankind would undergo an evolutionary shift, overnight. Add to that liberation from the insidious control matrix that has kept us economically deprived (debt slavery), and spiritually deprived and dumbed-down (religion) for 1000s of years, that would seal it. It probably wouldn't be pretty at first, but eventually, global consciousness would shift, resulting in a true awakening the likes of which it has never experienced before.

So from a certain point of view, sans a galactic energy wave, which may or may not be real, disclosure at least would qualify as a catalyst that could change everything, civilization-wide forever.

[greybeard]

Awakening is a reality. But it's a gradually growing (and I think accelerating) process, not an 'event'.

My own experience supports the theory that awakening is a process, and that it is accelerating. I cannot, however, rule out the possibility of an event that exponentially accelerates the process even more.

If this is pointing to spiritual awakening--then it can be a process or instant--which can mature after the event.

Eckhart Tolle had no interest in spirituality--became suicidal and awakening was instant

For some there is a process but the awakening happens instantly ---there is for better words a "shift"

What ever, I believe there is an awakening process going on --people are becoming more aware of what is going on in the world--parallel to that is a spiritual awakening--there may or may not be a connection between the two.

Chris

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

What ever, I believe there is an awakening process going on --people are becoming more aware of what is going on in the world--parallel to that is a spiritual awakening--there may or may not be a connection between the two.

Chris

I bolded the last part Chris, because I think there is mate. The two walk hand in hand, each setting off and increasing/expanding the other. Where this eventually will lead...time will tell!

[DeDukshyn]

Awakening is a reality. But it's a gradually growing (and I think accelerating) process, not an 'event'.

My own experience supports the theory that awakening is a process, and that it is accelerating. I cannot, however, rule out the possibility of an event that exponentially accelerates the process even more.

If this is pointing to spiritual awakening--then it can be a process or instant--which can mature after the event.

Eckhart Tolle had no interest in spirituality--became suicidal and awakening was instant

For some there is a process but the awakening happens instantly ---there is for better words a "shift"

What ever, I believe there is an awakening process going on --people are becoming more aware of what is going on in the world--parallel to that is a spiritual awakening--there may or may not be a connection between the two.

Chris

Iwas going to note on Bill's post that there's also the concept that if we believe that attaining "spirituality" is extremely hard, we will judge our progress by how hard we work, and always fail if we feel we haven't worked as hard as what we believe it takes. I have a feeling that people are in a state that if WWIII started many would awaken or progress instantly - its not that are not at this place already internally, but a physical expression is needed for them to believe it themselves - similar to your Eckhart example.

I have cornered myself into a place where I must again have that faith in my internal self and stop telling myself "I have to do X" or "be Y" in order to progress -- bull**** ... All I have to do is breathe and let it all go.

That said, if there is an "event" of sorts, (in the time frame of cycles we are talking about here "event" could be fairly long), it will be those that have their inner preparation done that will most benefit -- this slightly ties into Jesus' teaching about "preparing" for the coming of the "Christ" (Christians call it the second coming, Jews call it the first) -- the preparation is internal ...

There is also the idea that what would see to be an "event" can be triggered by our collective conscious alone, becoming awakened - this might be the same as a "coming of the Christ" -- there's many metaphors for this all throughout our history - in almost all corners of the earth across different cultures / religions.

Anyway ... just thinking out loud on the topic ...

[Eva2]

I personally do not believe in any set rules en masse or individually and it is a very personal experience. I believe it can happen equally for the stay at home mom and the guy on the mountaintop meditating 12 hours a day for 20 plus years. Perhaps it is the accumulated soul journeys or soul experiences that trigger the "event" and inner yearnings, thoughts, feelings, etc. will pull the individual to their personal experience.

[betoobig]

What are your thoughts on willing your own spiritual awakening into existence?



Well, we don't magically get any spiritual awakening suddenly happening to us, handed out on a free silver platter. :)

Ask any Tibetan Lama who's been on the path for dozens of lifetimes. This doesn't happen overnight, and doesn't happen without


work
discipline
application
dedication
commitment
the absence of ego.


That used to be true. Lots of people happen to awake (at least initializing the procces), epiphany, suddenly, and now energies are stronger, the conection is stronger...anyhow. I have seen a man bringing people into stillness just by touching the person while the person is completly concious, able to conversate. Now it is much easier than darker days. Our conection to source, which allways was there , now is much stronger and stronger everyday. Really, if you really knew how easy it is becoming, you´ll just love it.
Much love

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time to play

[Mandala]

I personally do not believe in any set rules en masse or individually and it is a very personal experience. I believe it can happen equally for the stay at home mom and the guy on the mountaintop meditating 12 hours a day for 20 plus years. Perhaps it is the accumulated soul journeys or soul experiences that trigger the "event" and inner yearnings, thoughts, feelings, etc. will pull the individual to their personal experience.

I believe so too. Different for every individual. Personal Journey. Different routes all back to creator source.

At one time there was a discussion on Avalon, (can't remember the thread, possibly at the time of Ineila), where it was said we had already made a decision on our awakening and what we chose to do.

Possible Pink Elephant: What about Dolores Cannon's clients saying the world would evolve almost like cell mitosis and a new earth would form with a higher vibration.

Only those who made the decision to go and could also hold the higher frequency would go. Eventually all would get there, not necessarily at the same time.

Some will want to stay in 3D, others will chose the higher 4/5D frequency. Dolores said earth doesn't care if we go or not. We are simply "fleas on a dog's back". Earth is going through the birthing process, hence the earthquakes, extreme weather and volcanic eruptions.

If this is possible, science and reality would be blown open, because this violates everything we believe possible.

Throw in some kind of celestial event for good measure. (Why did Obama sign and Executive Order to prepare for space weather event)?

www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/10/13/executive-order-coordinating-efforts-prepare-nation-space-weather-events
2 months ago - EFFORTS TO PREPARE THE NATION FOR SPACE WEATHER EVENTS By the authority vested... and to prepare the Nation for space weather events.

I think we might have an event on our hands.

Does anyone else have a strong feeling something is going on coming from deep inside you intuitively?

[wondering]

Mandala, Yes, and although I get discouraged and confused sometimes, I have an unshakable knowing that something is happening that all of us ageeed to participate in, in various ways, by coming here now. I am encouraged by increased energy currents impacting our planet and see it as a harbinger of great, very positive changes. I don't see how, but I do believe that. Much love to all seekers! And that is all of us!

[helencrump]

When we can leave our neck of the woods and fly in cosmic space , eveything will change ... we will fall under a federation with many rules ...

Very interesting. What did you mean by that? Like, be careful what you wish for?

[PathWalker]

What are your thoughts on willing your own spiritual awakening into existence?



Well, we don't magically get any spiritual awakening suddenly happening to us, handed out on a free silver platter. :)

Ask any Tibetan Lama who's been on the path for dozens of lifetimes. This doesn't happen overnight, and doesn't happen without


work
discipline
application
dedication
commitment
the absence of ego.


Thanks for the insight, I wish to disagree.
We (humans) are programmed/manipulated for:
1. hard work
2. dedication
3. humility
4. loyalty
5. patience
6. endurance
7. hope

And there are more such repressive attributes.
What is common to all these attributes are the markings of submission to higher authority.
An authority that directly benefits from human outputs/products or management/direction.

In my spiritual path, I find some of us (humans) requires discipline and framework to evolve and express/expose their capabilities.
Others like myself decay in oppressive systems.

I also found that many of us evolve when we explore attributes of:
1. gratitude
2. joy
3. truth
4. love
5. sharing
6. meaningful purpose

Noticed the absence of happiness? That is happiness is a byproducts of meaningful achievements (inspect your own life for meaningful achievements).
I recommend reading this beautiful article about the importance of meaningful purpose form holocaust survivor.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/12/21/psychiatrist-who-survived-the-holocaust-explains-why-meaningfulness-matters-more-than-happiness/

[ghostrider]

When we can leave our neck of the woods and fly in cosmic space , eveything will change ... we will fall under a federation with many rules ...

Very interesting. What did you mean by that? Like, be careful what you wish for?
like no weapons in space , a birth stoppage till the planet has a population of 500 million or less, living by spiritual teaching, you are responsible for you, religion forbidden, no contact with lower evolved humans until they think clearly, peaceful creatures that have made it past the point we are currently trying to get over, no new inventions sent via dreams /telepathy without the approval of the council, maximum of 4 per household, Minimum of 100 meters between homes, everyone grows their own vegetables, everyone works 4 hours per day, no armies allowed, everything ran by a council of elders 12 or so people...a host of rules non negotiable, absolute or you are sent to a primitive world with no technology until you lose the ability to procreate... A list too long to post...

[onawah]

Earth Entering High Energy HelioTail/7.6 Quake
Dec 25, 2016
The DECEMBER WAVE OF ENERGY IS HERE.
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[CD7]

Currently listening to radio station listened to for years..all of sudden just drops off static...2nd time recently this has happened....still static right now so I wonder what type of interference is causing radio off air....what's happening in the ether's? Not really looking for answer just noticing things...

[Horong]

I've been reading articles and listening to podcasts, webinars and youtube videos for a couple of years now. I keep hearing about "THE EVENT". However, no one says what it is or what it looks like. They only say stock up on food and water.

I'm a regular listener to Alex Collier. In the past couple months he has been very positive and said we will feel an energy shift the day after Christmas. So okay, that sounds nice. He was so loving, optimistic and giddy about the future. But then at the very end he says, if you have any unresolved issues with loved ones, now is the time to clear them up so you don't have to live with any regrets. Uh-mmmmm WHAT?

Now I have been feeling pretty happy for a few weeks. :sun: My fear is gone. No more worries. Pretty high on life. But I have to admit that was a bit disturbing.

Can anyone enlighten me one what "The Event" is supposed to look like? I promise I can handle it. :muscle:Like everything else thus far, I get used to concepts fairly quickly. Thank you!:heart:

I'm sorry if this alarms anyone.

I had a look for Alex Collier talking about this — because I know helencrump has quite some attention on it — but was unable to find a reference.

Is there an MP3 or anything on YouTube?

For anyone who may be concerned, I do have to say, if I may, that in my very strong opinion, nothing at all is going to happen the day after Christmas. Except, maybe, for a lot of people clearing things up, saying goodbye to visiting friends and relatives (only because they're returning to where they live! :) ), and, probably one or two people nursing their hangovers.

For those new to this kind of thing, these pronouncements can feel very exciting — until nothing happens on the predicted day. I have literally lost count of the number of times I've seen these predictions come... and go.

I've met Alex Collier, and he's an impressive man, and I liked him a lot — but, he makes money from this kind of thing (though, probably NOT a very great deal). Very few alternative media prophets ever say anything publicly about how they were wrong. They ignore their error, and just set a new date (or, maybe, a new event).


This is the fake news.
This is what makes people look stupid in front of their friends and family, when nothing whatsoever happens.
This, like the 'Flat Earth' (and the Blue Avians!), discredits the very serious investigative work that many alternative media journalists and researchers are trying to do.
This is the source of saccharine-coated false hope, when our attention should maybe be on what's really happening in the world.
This is also an addiction, of a kind (it's a kind of ungrounded escapism, that makes us feel better: wine is more expensive than watching YouTube)... see other forum threads about this.


I don't know if you're aware of this, but you should watch this video, where Robert Stanley has something to say about Alex Collier which I think you will find very interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1xb57owJ0Q

While I don't think being a criminal means you can't be visited by alien entities shortly after, again this is something that needs to be seen. (On a non-related note: Project Camelot interviewed him 5 months ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VthN8rX55s)

[PathWalker]

Thank you Bill for your input.
Please share what you think about the 'New human' information coming from Marry Rodwell at 01:28".
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Mary Rodwell was my guest on Wednesday night October 26th @ 7pm PT.

AUTHOR OF AWAKENING & THE NEW HUMAN, FOUNDER OF ACERN, INTERNATIONAL LECTURER , RESEARCHER, COUNSELLOR, DIRECTOR & CHAIR OF FREE , REGRESSION SPECIALIST, EXOPOLITICS COMMITTEE MEMBER, DIRECTOR OF AWARD WINNING DOCUMENTARIES

MARY RODWELL is recognized internationally as one of Australia’s leading researchers and writers in the UFO and contact phenomenon areas. Mary is the author of the highly acclaimed book ‘Awakening: How Extraterrestrial Contact Can Transform Your Life’ (2002); and producer of EBE award winning documentaries:- Expressions of ET Contact: A Visual Blueprint? (2000), and Expressions of ET Contact: A Communication and Healing Blueprint? (2004). Her new book ‘The New Human’ which describes and documents star children is due to be released in late 2016.

Mary is the Founder and Principal of Australian Close Encounter Resource Network (ACERN) which was established in 1997 to provide professional counselling, support, hypnotherapy and information to individuals and their families with ‘anomalous’ paranormal experiences and abduction-­‐contact experiences. Mary is also Director and Chair of the Experiencer Support Programs of Dr Edgar Mitchell: Foundation for Research into Extra-­‐terrestrial Encounters (FREE); and an advisory Committee member of Exopolitics (www.etworldpeace.com). Mary also organized the inaugural ‘Hidden Truths’ international conference held in Perth, Western Australia in 2003.

Mary’s research also explores evidence from a scientific, biological, psychological, anthropological, spiritual and historical perspective to support what she believes is a ‘genetic’ engineering program, for ‘upgrading’ homo sapiens, leading to a paradigm shift in human consciousness.

KERRY CASSIDY
PROJECT CAMELOT
http://projectcamelotportal.com
IMHO Marry Rodwell material is related to the 'event', but not specific date.

Thanks
Joy and happiness
PathWalker