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Althena
25th May 2016, 15:03
Did you know that no airplanes are allowed to fly over the poles?
None.
The flight patterns look like this:
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Screenshot-2016-05-24-at-9.45.15-AM.png
Why exactly do you think that is?
It may sound crazy, but consider this compelling evidence below… is NASA hiding a huge secret at our poles?
ap2Kgglzeec
At the very least, it certainly wouldn’t be the first time NASA cut the ISS video feed when something appeared they didn’t want us to see.
Althena
25th May 2016, 15:09
I find this a fascinating subject, I became interested after reading Admiral Byrd's diary, I recommend everyone reads it, good stuff.
Althena
25th May 2016, 15:25
Admiral Byrd's Diary:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tierra_hueca/esp_tierra_hueca_2d.htm
Matt P
25th May 2016, 15:55
If memory serves, satellites that fly over the poles are military controlled and no one in the world is allowed to access the classified data on those satellites without explicit permission.
Matt
justntime2learn
25th May 2016, 16:40
Admiral Byrd's Diary:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tierra_hueca/esp_tierra_hueca_2d.htm
Thank you for the diary and post Althena :) Admiral Byrd, high jump, and paper clip have always fascinated me.
Hole in the earth very much resonates with me.
I was reading what Matt wrote which reminded me of a documentary on the Science Channel about the Bermuda Triangle in space. I'm not sure if that's over the pole or not though. I remember the astronaut saying that there was an area in space where many anomalies happen and they take special precautions while going over this area. Spacewalks are a definite No-No.
Atlas
25th May 2016, 17:00
Parrot AR.Drone 2.0 flying over South Pole in Antarctica
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Geographic North Pole Expedition - Blacks Explore and Conquer
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Atlas
25th May 2016, 17:27
Pictures of Cmdr. Byrd's historic flight:
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Hervé
25th May 2016, 17:41
South Pole:
http://www.losapuntesdelviajero.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Base-Amundsen-Scott-Polo-Sur.jpg
A short walk from the geographic south pole, the ceremonial pole is marked by a red and white striped pole topped with a shiny, chrome-colored sphere. The area is surrounded by the flags of the Antarctic Treaty signatory countries (http://www.scar.org/treaty/signatories.html).
There Are 3 South Poles, So Which One Did Prince Harry Reach? (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/12/131213-south-pole-where-is-it-geography-science/)
By Jane J. Lee, National Geographic (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/) PUBLISHED December 14, 2013
There's the geographic south pole, along with the magnetic south pole and the ceremonial south pole.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/content/dam/news/photos/000/748/74873.adapt.590.1.jpg
Oscar Wisting was one of five Norwegians at the South Pole with explorer Roald Amundsen in 1911. Photograph by Lordprice Collection/ Alamy
Prince Harry and a group of 12 servicemen and women from around the world reached the south pole (http://icestories.exploratorium.edu/dispatches/big-ideas/the-south-poles/) on Friday, organizers have announced.
The group undertook the three-week trek to raise money and awareness for the U.K.-based Walking With the Wounded charity, which helps wounded armed forces members.
The British prince's group ended up at the geographic south pole (http://education.nationalgeographic.com/education/encyclopedia/south-pole/?ar_a=1), the southernmost point on Earth. If you stuck a pole all the way through the planet along its axis of rotation, it would poke out the bottom at the geographic south pole.
But there's more than one south pole. In fact, there are three.
The geographic south pole is the place where all the lines of longitude converge in the Southern Hemisphere.
Its only marker is a stake with a sign honoring the first explorers to reach the geographic south pole—Roald Amundsen and Robert Scott—in 1911 and 1912, respectively. But since the whole shebang rests on a moving ice sheet, the marker must be repositioned every year to account for the roughly 33 feet (10 meters) of travel per year. (See "South Pole Expeditions Then and Now: How Does Their Food and Gear Compare?" (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/10/131025-antarctica-south-pole-scott-expedition-science-polar/))
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/content/dam/news/photos/000/745/74559.ngsversion.1422285005803.adapt.885.1.jpg
Other South Poles
The pole your compass points toward when you head south is the magnetic south pole (http://deeptow.whoi.edu/southpole.html). That pole suffers from a case of wanderlust, moving northwest toward Australia at six to nine miles (10 to 15 kilometers) per year.
The magnetic south pole is defined by where Earth's magnetic field lines come vertically out of the surface of the Earth. Since the field is generated by the rotation of Earth's fluid core, it doesn't always stay in the same place. (Read about how researchers track (http://www.nature.com/news/tracking-the-magnetic-south-pole-1.9676) the magnetic south pole.)
And then there's the ceremonial south pole, which has been set aside for photo opportunities.
A short walk from the geographic south pole, the ceremonial pole is marked by a red and white striped pole topped with a shiny, chrome-colored sphere. The area is surrounded by the flags of the Antarctic Treaty signatory countries (http://www.scar.org/treaty/signatories.html).
It too must be moved every year so it doesn't drift too far from the geographic south pole.
Is there a giant hole in the North Pole? It's very doubtful, but I haven't been there to witness it with my own eyes so I don't know.
The world is full of uncovered mysteries and anomalies.
Hervé
25th May 2016, 18:14
Interesting times at the “North Pole” (https://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/20/interesting-times-at-the-north-pole/)
Anthony Watts (https://wattsupwiththat.com/author/wattsupwiththat/) / June 20, 2009 (https://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/20/interesting-times-at-the-north-pole/)
There is a webcam at the “North Pole” (at least it starts out very near there) that reports via satellite data uplink at regular intervals. They also have a weather station (http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/gallery_np_weatherdata.html) with a once weekly data plot. Note it is still below zero centigrade there.
https://i2.wp.com/www.arctic.noaa.gov/images/weatherdata/2009/wx_2009.gif
Latest data (updated approximately weekly)
Readers should note that the station really isn’t at the north pole anymore due to significant ice drift (http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/gallery_np_weatherdata.html#drift).
WUWT reader GlennB called attention to the webcam images today. A couple of weeks ago (5/31/09) it looked like this. You can see the weather station in the distance.
https://i1.wp.com/www.arctic.noaa.gov/npole/2009/images/noaa1-2009-0531-012446.jpg (http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/npole/2009/images/noaa1-2009-0531-012446.jpg)
Now it looks like this:
https://i2.wp.com/www.arctic.noaa.gov/npole/2009/images/noaa1-2009-0619-192750.jpg (http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/npole/2009/images/noaa1-2009-0619-192750.jpg)
It appears either a snow drift and/or pressure ridge has blocked the view of the weather station.
Here is what they say about it on NOAA/PMEL’s web page:
NOAA/PMEL’s North Pole web cam deployments began in April 2002. The web cams operate during the Summer warmth and daylight (April – October) and are redeployed each Spring. The images from the cameras track the North Pole snow cover, weather conditions and the status of PMEL’s North Pole instrumentation (http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/gallery_np_instruments.html), which includes meteorological and ice sensors (seen in the camera images). The instruments typically continue to transmit data (http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/gallery_np_weatherdata.html) for months after the solar-powered web cams stop.
Web Camera provided by Star Dot Technologies (http://www.stardot-tech.com/) with technical support by Vance Kozik. System design by Oceantronics (http://www.oceantronics.net/). Camera images are relayed via the Iridium (http://www.iridium.com/) satellite system.
Link is here: http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/gallery_np.html
What I find most interesting is the ice/snow sounder graph.
Ice-temperature plot: Plots of air, ice, and ocean temperature as measured by Mass Balance buoys developed by CRREL. Final versions of files will be created by CRREL.
Download preliminary data: 07948.cplot (http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/weather_data/2009/07948.cplot) (click for header information (http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/header-07105.htm))
https://i2.wp.com/www.arctic.noaa.gov/images/weatherdata/2009/icet_2009.gif
Latest data (updated approximately weekly)
Not much change in the ice pinger distance, even though the station has drifted 161 miles to the SSE (lat lon data here (http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/weather_data/2009/07100_hdr.wx)). If I interpret the pinger graph correctly, the ice thickness has changed from ~2.75m to ~2.5m.
https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/arctic_webcam_drift.jpg?w=720 (https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/arctic_webcam_drift.jpg)
We’ll see if there is any significant change in a couple of weeks, assuming it is still transmitting.
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Claiming the North Pole (http://www.xray-mag.com/content/claiming-north-pole)
October 13, 2011 - 23:33
On August 2, 2007, the weather was good at the North Pole. The sea was calm, the water temperature was just -1° C, with the air at a balmy 0° C. That morning two Russian mini submarines, Bathyscaphe Mir-1 and Mir-2, were sent down and at noon, Mir-1 touched down on the seabed at 4,261m, planting the Russian flag.
http://www.xray-mag.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/P7312207.jpg?itok=COaC_ppv (http://www.xray-mag.com/sites/default/files/P7312207.jpg)
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Did you know that no airplanes are allowed to fly over the poles?
None.
The flight patterns look like this:
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Screenshot-2016-05-24-at-9.45.15-AM.png
Why exactly do you think that is?
It may sound crazy, but consider this compelling evidence below… is NASA hiding a huge secret at our poles?
ap2Kgglzeec
At the very least, it certainly wouldn’t be the first time NASA cut the ISS video feed when something appeared they didn’t want us to see.
Not True!
I spent the better part of this morning trying to find the picture I took of the FMS page (Flight Management System) showing us over NPOLE.
This was many years ago and the picture I took was on one of my several phones that I have gone through since then.
I have 3 different blackberrys on chargers trying to locate the said picture.
No luck.
Either way......
I flew over the North Pole and No, there wasnt anything unusual to report.
And it is allowed, albeit with restrictions.
Let me explain: As you would imagine, Aircraft are designed with many redundant systems.
When it comes to long range navigation we can have up to 3 systems that feed off of 3 different subsystems to supply data, such as GNSS and VHF - GNSS supplying us with GPS and VHF allowing short-range based reception of line-of-sight ground based transmitters such as VOR's and NDB's.
The North Pole region, in aviation is the area defined above 78 degrees Latitude. Within this region lies an area known as the AMU (Areas of Magnetic Unreliability), and as you would imagine gets this name because as we all know the magnetic pole moves and is for the most part "fluid" to a specific area. It is within this area and roughly 250-300 miles around the magnetic North Pole that a magnetic compass is completely unreliable.
Lets talk about redundancy now- What do you think would happen if a flight crew were in this area and lost an electric bus that provides power to say....hmmm the GNSS computer? Now they would have to rely on what for navigation?
If you said "magnetic compass" you get a big ::highfive:
And what is a magnetic compass going to do for you now?
If you said: "nothing", or "very bad things" you get a:clapping:
Because the back-up for loss of GNSS reverts to VOR-VOR (need two for triangulation) and DME-DME (same idea) and then VOR-DME. These are all VHF based and there aren't any transmitters in those areas to tune your radio to or for the FMS to "auto-tune" to.
After 2008 the FAA restricted the operations in this area for Part 135 operators (charter). They could still be allowed but needed specific approval. If anyone is curious and wants to know where to find the "specifics', can refer to:http://www.code7700.com/high_latitude.html#references
More details on requirements and approval for operating "over the north pole" here: http://www.code7700.com/pdfs/ac_135-42_etops.pdf
http://www.code7700.com/images/north_pole_jeppesen_ap.png
http://www.code7700.com/images/north_pole_jeppesen_ap.png
Not sure about the title of this very short vid, it doesn't prove our planet is hollow IMHO. It's just under two mins long, but it does prove that it is possible, so for me, I find it a fascinating series of experiments. Enjoy... N
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeMzOhoJpfw
Bill Ryan
25th May 2016, 22:08
consider this compelling evidence below…
That comes from Secureteam10, a known hoaxing channel. That's been reported many times now. Please do NOT post stuff like this without taking a moment to review where it all comes from. :facepalm:
Althena
26th May 2016, 01:51
consider this compelling evidence below…
That comes from Secureteam10, a known hoaxing channel. That's been reported many times now. Please do NOT post stuff like this without taking a moment to review where it all comes from. :facepalm:
Agreed about the hoaxing channel Bill. But what do you think about Admiral Byrd?? He was a respected officer through out his career and then some.
Bill Ryan
26th May 2016, 02:25
consider this compelling evidence below…
That comes from Secureteam10, a known hoaxing channel. That's been reported many times now. Please do NOT post stuff like this without taking a moment to review where it all comes from. :facepalm:
Agreed about the hoaxing channel Bill. But what do you think about Admiral Byrd?? He was a respected officer through out his career and then some.
You're mixing things up. :)
Byrd and his expedition had a highly strange experience in 1947 near Antarctica. Nothing whatsoever to do with a 'hole in the North Pole'.
Here is a fascinating map by Mercator of the north pole area, including myth and legend.
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http://www.thedailysheeple.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Screenshot-2016-05-24-at-9.45.15-AM.png
I like the space left by the flight patterns appears hexagonal, at least from this angle. Reminds me of Saturn's pole:
http://i.stack.imgur.com/IPbKN.jpg
Bill Ryan
26th May 2016, 15:06
I like the space left by the flight patterns
Do note: these are actually satellite orbits (and the image dates from Feb 2001), not airline flightpaths of any kind.
I like the space left by the flight patterns
Do note: these are actually satellite orbits (and the image dates from Feb 2001), not airline flightpaths of any kind.
Yes
Bill you beat me to it!
Correct, the origin of this gif dated in Feb of 2001 comes from here:
https://sites.google.com/site/satellitecsap/present/how-satellites-work
And from my own experience without the link for support- In no way represents any Aircraft Flight Traffic/Pattern.
cheers
Thanks to both Bill and Chip. Some of names with "SAT" in them and the height of the lines were a dead giveaway that I totally missed... Time for more due diligence on my part!
Hervé
30th May 2016, 14:00
As for the reason why most polar orbit satellites avoid an orbital path directly above Earth's poles:
Sun orbits (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_orbit#Sun_orbits)
Near-polar orbiting satellites commonly choose a Sun-synchronous orbit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun-synchronous_orbit), meaning that each successive orbital pass occurs at the same local time of day. This can be particularly important for applications such as remote sensing atmospheric temperature, where the most important thing to see may well be changes over time which are not aliased onto changes in local time. To keep the same local time on a given pass, the time period (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency) of the orbit must be kept as short as possible, this is achieved by keeping the orbit lower to the Earth. However, very low orbits of a few hundred kilometers rapidly decay due to drag from the atmosphere. Commonly used altitudes are between 700 km and 800 km, producing an orbital period of about 100 minutes.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_orbit#cite_note-phy6-2) The half-orbit on the Sun side then takes only 50 minutes, during which local time of day does not vary greatly.
To retain the Sun-synchronous orbit as the Earth revolves around the Sun during the year, the orbit of the satellite must precess (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precess) at the same rate, which is not possible if the satellite were to pass directly over the pole. Because of the Earth's equatorial bulge, an orbit inclined at a slight angle is subject to a torque which causes precession; an angle of about 8 degrees from the pole produces the desired precession in a 100-minute orbit.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_orbit#cite_note-phy6-2)
petra
8th July 2016, 22:37
There's a military base up there, with top secret stuff in it!
The Northern Lights aren't as pretty once you know they're solar radiation
I heard some tales about the Northern Lights making noise, people could hear it, but no one could record the noise. That was years ago, I looked again, and this article supposedly confirms it makes a sound!
http://planetsave.com/2012/07/10/sounds-of-the-aurora-borealis-confirmed/
"Our research proved that, during the occurrence of the northern lights, people can hear natural auroral sounds related to what they see."
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