THE EVENT - Meta Analysis and paralysis

[Praxis]

My story started after John Kerry lost the election, not that he was any better than the other, but I just couldnt imagine that Bush would win another term after invading and destroying two countries. Everyone I knew around me didnt vote for him yet he still won. So I decided that I would start searching for answers. I quickly went down many rabbit holes. Jfk, aliens, false flags, 9-11 etc. You name it, I looked into it.

This caused me to be very jaded with the world as clearly there are malevolent actors running things openly and from behind the scenes, to use Joseph Farrell's terms level 1 -3 are all clearly malevolent. Yet, nobody else seemed to notice or care that this was the case. They would often cite Hanlon's razor to me, which states Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to ignorance or stupidity (yeah tell that to the IRaqis about Paul Bremer). So, I started to feel helpless. I started to feel powerless. Alas, that is exactly what it is supposed to do, but i still fell into the pit of despair anyway.

I started to look for that sweet sweet hope porn. Sheldan Nidle was my first stop. I feel very embarrassed admitting this to you all. But I would hang on that salesman's words every time a new update came out. Full of hope and lack of action, I thought that surely things are just around the corner. Soon™, he would proclaim and placate my need to actually do something and I was content to wait for the next proclamation of Soon™.

After a while, Soon™ started to taste bitter in my mouth. And so I added to my palate of helplessness other sources of Soon™. David Wilcock and Ben Fulford added a healthy dose of grounded placation. Instead of WOO WOO pie in the sky stuff about chambers that would clean you of your imperfections and your room on the mothership of rainbows and happiness, I got half geo political speculation, which truly appealed to my particular interests, and WOO WOO the ninjas/ positive ET force is coming to rescue poor old us.

God how i loved reading david wilcock. He is like a poor man's Richard Dolan and Graham Hancock in one package. His possible past life as a famous medium was just the cherry on top. I ate his piles of Soon™ by the spoonful. But as before, I began to become impatient because i saw little change in the world. But dont worry, that sweet sweet WW2 gold is coming to save the world and give everybody golden rainbows. I started to get jaded with the alien question part of the whole equation. While I personally believe that it is a very important part, It is so far removed from the bad things I see in the world that it only seemed to cloud the picture.

So I started to only really read the Fulford Updates. He seemed grounded and not clouded by the Alien question and focused on the man made problems and for man made solutions. By this time, I started to realize that this is key. We are the solution because no outside source is going to waste their time if they havent already done anything. Really, you think that the ET dont realize how atrocious things already are and have been for the last 100 years? What then is their RED LINE that we shouldnt cross? Realizing this, Fulford seemed like Goldy Locks Soon™. Human based solutions to human, and yes offworld too, based problems. The offworld part of that picture is our problem too because like vampires, you have to invite them in.

But soon those ninjas never came bringing that long awaited Soon™. And here were. Now, I admit i still read some of them from time to time, although Fulford is really the only one I really ever read but even then it is sparingly and done in the vein of trashy romance novels. I believe that the truth of these Soon™ artists is to keep you sitting waiting for the sweet sweet Soon™ to come. This takes away your agency in current events of what need to be done.

We dont matter. And I dont mean that like you think. Avalon and the people on the internet really dont directly matter to you. They are a good support network, but the people that truly matter are right outside your door. They are the flesh and blood people watching the Kardashians or Football. They are the people in the local bar. They are the people at your local city council which you never even knew met once or twice a month. Your community outside your door not through your computer screen are what matter. No amount of Soon™ discussion or analysis on here is going to change anything. Pontificating with others about things in which you have no agency is not helping anything but your peace of mind, and even then it is a false peace of mind. I do think it is important to understand the world and what is happening, and yes it is nice to be aware of things that could be a possibility. But at the end of the day, what are you doing in the real world to help Soon™ happen?

I dont have the answers. Im not sure what to do. I try to engage flesh and blood people with whatever they seem willing to entertain. They will only talk level 1? Thats fine, find something there. They are willing to talk level 2? Excellent some of my favorite discussion are to be had there. Level 3 people, now we get to have some interesting and terrifying discussions. But other than that Im not sure. The one thing I do know is that spent too much time on Soon™ porn without giving myself Soon™ action in my real life.


I think that it comes to this: The EVENT will happen when you make it happen.

[Bill Ryan]

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Brilliant! Thank you, and loved it. This really should be published somewhere. :star:

[seah]

Much of what you say resonates with me, 9ofclubs. For me, there is no "peace of mind" to be found in anything I read or discourse here or elsewhere; the state of being at peace would be unknown to me if it weren't for meditation. Being awake to the perilous conditions we find ourselves in is a freedom and a prison at the same time.

I don't see any reason to give credence to such a thing as "the event". With every new day there is multiple events taking place that carry weight for those involved. "The personal is political" still has much relevance.

[danegeroussacredgeometry]

I think this is one of the most incredible posts I have ever seen on Avalon. It resonates with me a lot. Thank you for taking the time to put this all down. This was exactly how I was feeling waking up today. We are the change and unless we get off our computers and go out into the world to try and create that change then things will stay the same... Or get worse. I agree with Bill. This should be published :bigsmile:

[zen deik]

Education about the world is good , but if it's not happening within a one hundred mile radius it doesn't really affect me at this moment ,I'll never alone change the direction of events but if enough people shine the light of truth on things perhaps that would. Thanks to the information age and the people participating the darkness may become brighter. That is my hope.

[justntime2learn]

Incredible 9ofclubs!

You just described my epiphany in words I couldn't find. Heck, I can't think as clear as you can write.

Thank you :heart:

[sommervr]

I agree with the OP. I haven't got past the malevolent actors part. I suspect the people that think they know something are being fed a different set of lies. The system appears to be intelligently designed to allow evil to rise to the top. But who is the designer and to what end?

I resist in small ways and pretty much all in my own head-space. I won't be scared, won't hate, won't lie, won't take the left hand path. Our own head-space is the only thing we own and frankly that is where I think the battle is.

[wondering]

It seems to me that this is another example of duality....why can't hope and action coexist? Why does one approach have to be so totally denigrated in favor of the "right" way of looking at things?

[KiwiElf]

Awesome 9ofClubs! (btw, someone has just posted it on Fulford's Cafe blog ;))

http://benjaminfulford.net/

Click the second green panel down to see the members/blogger's comments, it's near the bottom (most recent) :)

[justntime2learn]

Awesome 9ofClubs! (btw, someone has just posted it on Fulford's Cafe blog ;))

http://benjaminfulford.net/

Click the second green panel down to see the members/blogger's comments, it's near the bottom (most recent) :)

At least they gave credit :)

I have a feeling the post will find its way in many places.

It has resonated deeply with the friends that I have shared it with already :)

[Foxie Loxie]

Enjoyed the article very much & I think it points to the fact that each of us are on our own personal journey & that each of us have come at it from a clearly different angle. From my own experience I can say that there have been "supernatural" happenings down through life that have led me to this point of Awareness. However, I never would have become aware if I had not stumbled on to the Bill & Kerry interviews....or, was I guided?! I often think of Jordan Maxwell's story & how he was guided from the time he was a child....just didn't know it!! By the way, has anyone heard how he is doing?

[onawah]

Acting locally is important, but there is much we can do online too.
Joining forces with various credible non-profits who are working for good causes, signing petitions, writing letters to Congress, networking for those good causes does a lot of good too.
You don't get the kind of denial high you get from "SOON porn", but you get satisfaction when you see that enough people signed the petition or wrote the letter so that they could not be ignored, and the cause was won.
The internet is a great tool, and we would not have nearly as much power to effect change as we do without it.
I only have a certain amount of tolerance for conversing with people who are still asleep when it comes to what is really going on in the world, and if weren't for Avalon and the others here who "get it", I think I might have succumbed to hopelessness by now.
But I certainly get that about the "SOON porn"--I went through that stage too, and it's a dangerous distraction.
It may be the only way some of us can get over the shock of realizing what a dilemma we are in, but the important thing is that we are able to move on finally and find the things that we can do that will actually make a difference in our own lives and our own sphere of influence.

[Enola]

Our own head-space is the only thing we own and frankly that is where I think the battle is.

The real battle between "light and darkness" is within yourself but most of us are being led to project it into the outside world and see it as something outside of us. That way we never have to confront ourselves and go through painful transformation, and the ego welcomes this.

Most feel they are contributing by cheering for the right side. Just by keeping up with new messages and siding with the good against evil they feel they're doing their part, even if this doesn't really change anything. Most also get lost in the large body of "spirituality" out there and never get started on a path of real self-development that leads to spiritual awakening. To be honest, most are too lazy and scared of discomfort, and I would count myself among those for the most part of my life.

Now I feel like I'm mostly contributing by getting my own house in order and working on myself in a serious way. Maybe I can do some more for the world in the future, I guess we'll see.

[bettye198]

9 of clubs, right on your wave. OMG, you listed all the people I have followed in the yesteryear. Good old Sheldan Nidle. Poor thing. I talked to his significant other once on the telephone. She said he lies in bed and this swirling blue light starts in over his body and he starts translating. The whole event knocks him sideways. He is out like a light for some time. All these good hearted souls that accept channeling from other worlds are searching searching searching for some particle of truth. And we are on the sidelines hoping for same. But bottom line, we came to save ourselves and figure it out. Because all the truth and knowledge is right here inside.:inlove:

[OMG]

My story started after John Kerry lost the election, not that he was any better than the other, but I just couldnt imagine that Bush would win another term after invading and destroying two countries. Everyone I knew around me didnt vote for him yet he still won. So I decided that I would start searching for answers. I quickly went down many rabbit holes. Jfk, aliens, false flags, 9-11 etc. You name it, I looked into it.

This caused me to be very jaded with the world as clearly there are malevolent actors running things openly and from behind the scenes, to use Joseph Farrell's terms level 1 -3 are all clearly malevolent. Yet, nobody else seemed to notice or care that this was the case. They would often cite Hanlon's razor to me, which states Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to ignorance or stupidity (yeah tell that to the IRaqis about Paul Bremer). So, I started to feel helpless. I started to feel powerless. Alas, that is exactly what it is supposed to do, but i still fell into the pit of despair anyway.

I started to look for that sweet sweet hope porn. Sheldan Nidle was my first stop. I feel very embarrassed admitting this to you all. But I would hang on that salesman's words every time a new update came out. Full of hope and lack of action, I thought that surely things are just around the corner. Soon™, he would proclaim and placate my need to actually do something and I was content to wait for the next proclamation of Soon™.

After a while, Soon™ started to taste bitter in my mouth. And so I added to my palate of helplessness other sources of Soon™. David Wilcock and Ben Fulford added a healthy dose of grounded placation. Instead of WOO WOO pie in the sky stuff about chambers that would clean you of your imperfections and your room on the mothership of rainbows and happiness, I got half geo political speculation, which truly appealed to my particular interests, and WOO WOO the ninjas/ positive ET force is coming to rescue poor old us.

God how i loved reading david wilcock. He is like a poor man's Richard Dolan and Graham Hancock in one package. His possible past life as a famous medium was just the cherry on top. I ate his piles of Soon™ by the spoonful. But as before, I began to become impatient because i saw little change in the world. But dont worry, that sweet sweet WW2 gold is coming to save the world and give everybody golden rainbows. I started to get jaded with the alien question part of the whole equation. While I personally believe that it is a very important part, It is so far removed from the bad things I see in the world that it only seemed to cloud the picture.

So I started to only really read the Fulford Updates. He seemed grounded and not clouded by the Alien question and focused on the man made problems and for man made solutions. By this time, I started to realize that this is key. We are the solution because no outside source is going to waste their time if they havent already done anything. Really, you think that the ET dont realize how atrocious things already are and have been for the last 100 years? What then is their RED LINE that we shouldnt cross? Realizing this, Fulford seemed like Goldy Locks Soon™. Human based solutions to human, and yes offworld too, based problems. The offworld part of that picture is our problem too because like vampires, you have to invite them in.

But soon those ninjas never came bringing that long awaited Soon™. And here were. Now, I admit i still read some of them from time to time, although Fulford is really the only one I really ever read but even then it is sparingly and done in the vein of trashy romance novels. I believe that the truth of these Soon™ artists is to keep you sitting waiting for the sweet sweet Soon™ to come. This takes away your agency in current events of what need to be done.

We dont matter. And I dont mean that like you think. Avalon and the people on the internet really dont directly matter to you. They are a good support network, but the people that truly matter are right outside your door. They are the flesh and blood people watching the Kardashians or Football. They are the people in the local bar. They are the people at your local city council which you never even knew met once or twice a month. Your community outside your door not through your computer screen are what matter. No amount of Soon™ discussion or analysis on here is going to change anything. Pontificating with others about things in which you have no agency is not helping anything but your peace of mind, and even then it is a false peace of mind. I do think it is important to understand the world and what is happening, and yes it is nice to be aware of things that could be a possibility. But at the end of the day, what are you doing in the real world to help Soon™ happen?

I dont have the answers. Im not sure what to do. I try to engage flesh and blood people with whatever they seem willing to entertain. They will only talk level 1? Thats fine, find something there. They are willing to talk level 2? Excellent some of my favorite discussion are to be had there. Level 3 people, now we get to have some interesting and terrifying discussions. But other than that Im not sure. The one thing I do know is that spent too much time on Soon™ porn without giving myself Soon™ action in my real life.


I think that it comes to this: The EVENT will happen when you make it happen.

We know that the Avalon forum is nothing but "sooN"...

"Soon" is the result of an infinite and eternal path, just like hope is. The paradox is that it will never be satiated but always available now.

Actually we have numerous "Soons" manifest in our life (possibly even THE EVENT). The problem arises when "sooN" is bigger than our Now.

The Masters know this and attain ALL of NOW...then "SOON" is resolved. But this will only be known to the rest of us "SooN"...

:wizard:

[heather6thsense]

Thank you for taking the time to write this article and for your honesty 9ofclubs

[Kindred]

I have to agree with (virtually) everyone else here,

EXCELLENT ANALYSIS by the OP.

My two cents (but certainly, not the originator)

THE Answer (at this level of Reality):

Love One Another

In Unity, Peace and LOVE

(as I had replied in OMG's original thread ... )http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90877-THE-EVENT-Why-it-could-be-real&p=1070943&viewfull=1#post1070943

[onawah]

Who is this "we" you refer to?


[SIZE="3"][B]We know that the Avalon forum is nothing but "sooN"...

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Great post 9ofclubs, in a few hundred words you brought together and artfully summed up more or less everything so many of us are thinking and feeling. I am also learning that my own disillusionment is definitely not an isolated case..


I try to engage flesh and blood people with whatever they seem willing to entertain.

Me too, every day. I am always listening out for like-minded people, or for deep and relevant conversations to join in with. They hardly ever happen. And these people, in daily life, at work or what have you, I hardly ever meet.

[Cidersomerset]

My story started after John Kerry lost the election, not that he was any
better than the other, but I just couldnt imagine that Bush would win another term
after invading and destroying two countries. Everyone I knew around me didnt vote
for him yet he still won. So I decided that I would start searching for answers. I
quickly went down many rabbit holes. Jfk, aliens, false flags, 9-11 etc. You name it,
I looked into it.

I suspect we have all been there.................



Last week David made a surprise appearance on a late night BBC mainstream
politics magazine show. Whether you resonate with him or not he is one of
the best alternate researchers around on many subjects ( not all ). I just watched
this weeks video cast which in it he reflects his expeience on the show and
defines ' normal' and 'conspiracy theory'. It could apply to all the topics we
discuss and is very good imo .......

This was a surprise! David Icke on BBC's THIS WEEK political TV show
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90806-This-was-a-surprise--David-Icke-on-BBC-s-THIS-WEEK-political-TV-show-Transhumanism-and-Illusion-2016

That BBC Interview - Why It's Me That's Doing The Laughing: The David Icke Videocast/Podcast Trailer

By Jaymie on 27 May 2016 GMT

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Published on 27 May 2016

[OMG]

Who is this "we" you refer to?


[SIZE="3"][B]We know that the Avalon forum is nothing but "sooN"...



It's an expression of objective perspective...

:)


p.s. It's NOT meant as an assumption of "others agreement", nor is it a schizophrenic personality rearing it's head, although these points could be argued I guess LOL...

[Peace of Mind]

This is the results of digesting information you can’t personally verify. It places you in fear, confusion, and gives you a sense of hopelessness. The only thing that truly matters is being the best person you can be to self and others. Do this…your family, friends, and neighbors will recognize your examples and clearly see the benefits it bestows on everyone. Soon after…all the “soon” and “latter” porn will be seen for what it is…and that’s disempowerment. What else has it ever been? When the information is keeping the "activists" in-active there should be alarms going off all in your head.

Peace

[Agape]

I don't want ( or mean ) to be mean but it seems to me, OMG, that you're slightly disappointed with the fact that the Avalon forum left Corey behind ( and similar to him prophets , vis Charles/Atticus of 2011, maybe even Simon Parkes , to name but few , i'd have to add other names but not willing to be constantly on target from 'ye believers' ),
at least so it seems to me , this being 3rd cloned thread of your first cloned thread about presumed 'Event' .

You seem to be proposing that it's some kind of 'norm' to believe in such event , perhaps because people in all times did ?

The Last Judgement Day ? The Age of Aquarius ? The 2012 ? The 2017 ? The 2024 ? The New Judgement Day ?

Do you really have to believe in something so absurd or don't you realise mankind has been here for millions of years and we're here for a long haul ?

I'm perfectly sure there will be events , natural cataclysms for example we can't do much about but in case of celestial bodies they rarely happen 'all at once' from the ants - human perspective .
Look at stars .. lots of the flickering light too far away may have left its originator behind in time already.
This world too will have End . It's just nowhere too near . Magnetic storms and shifts do happen but they take time to happen and if they were to wipe out 'the rest of evil humanity' fast and smart they'd wipe all the rest too and would be fairly unpredictable and no human race would continue here as they're till today.
Humans have been here for couple of millions years already.

Kindly blame yourself and centuries of religious education that somehow convinced many people we live in 'short history of creativity' or sort of 'eternal presence' and everything advanced started years ago ( since you remember ) and will take conclusive shape few years later so that it all makes perfect sense to You and I.

It's not your life , this life to blame , it's generations and generations of humans who lived as they lived and believed what they were told and many of them never found the strength or capacity to question what they were taught or dispute it .

In 100 years or 1000 years from now and 10 000 years from now i dare to say there will be still people on this planet and they won't believe what we believed . Or maybe they will ..in principal ways .but the cunning thing about peoples 'rooted principles' is they're mostly based on our nescience and they do change shape when relevant knowledge becomes available .


Just don't go believing that people believe or want to believe in an event that someone forecasted because those events may be perfectly true for chosen few like most other human events. For the rest it might be also big disappointment .

I've seen thousands and thousands of human beings in this life and most won't change easily , for any events sake.



Peace to you :angel:

[Red Skywalker]

Today I have awakened a person in a good and high position. Just told him about the missing trillions a day before 911 2001. What???!! He said. So, I showed him links to secret space program, Joseph Farrell, Jim Marrs and Dark Journalist. Now he has the red pill, and he likes it. :heart:

Another, just one by one, real flesh and blood person up to The Event.
That is exactly the only way to get it to happen.

:highfive:

[OMG]

I don't want ( or mean ) to be mean but it seems to me, OMG, that you're slightly disappointed with the fact that the Avalon forum left Corey behind ( and similar to him prophets...

That isn't a thought that ever entered my mind.

I try to support truth, not personalities or agendas...

:sherlock:

[onawah]

I don't really see how it could be taken as anything other than an assumption of others' agreement.
The fact is that you cannot possibly know for certain where all Avalon members stand on this issue (or any other issue, for that matter).
In such a situation, the wise thing to do is simply to speak for yourself; to preface such a statement, if you really feel you have to make it, with the allowance that you are voicing an opinion and have no claim to omnipotence.
Otherwise, it's quite likely that you will be suspected, not necessarily of schizophrenia, but of delusions of grandeur.


Who is this "we" you refer to?


[SIZE="3"][B]We know that the Avalon forum is nothing but "sooN"...



It's an expression of objective perspective...

:)


p.s. It's NOT meant as an assumption of "others agreement", nor is it a schizophrenic personality rearing it's head, although these points could be argued I guess LOL...

[ZenBaller]

More or less I've had the same experiences with the OP since 2003. I still remember them and they feel so ridiculous now, like the Zetas and the white lie, NESARA, Sheldan Nidle, massive earth changes, timewave zero, 2012 etc.. The Event never happened on an external level, but it did happen. The awakening always was an internal process of facing your deepest fears, insecurities and embracing them with love. That was the transformation I was always expecting. Only it didn't come in a spaceship or a new financial system, but with great esoteric challenge and pain which crushed the ego and the personality. That is the Event and it's still ongoing for all of us. It waits for us to face it inside.

[OMG]

I don't really see how it could be taken as anything other than an assumption of others' agreement.

The fact is that you cannot possibly know for certain where all Avalon members stand on this issue (or any other issue, for that matter).

In such a situation, the wise thing to do is simply to speak for yourself; to preface such a statement, if you really feel you have to make it, with the allowance that you are voicing an opinion and have no claim to omnipotence.

Otherwise, it's quite likely that you will be suspected, not necessarily of schizophrenia, but of delusions of grandeur.

The point of the statement(s) that I made was to show that "soon" is a concept which is based on unfulfilled expectation. When someone post' information on a forum they are either making a matter-of-fact or opinionated statement OR attempting or engaging-in a dialogue. Either way they are establishing a presence in time for others to see OR interact with. This in turn creates a future time potential (via observation OR response) and with all potentials they are relative and beckon more time, hence "SOON" is never realized.

None of this has to do with delusions of grandeur or speaking for others (unless you consider it a presumptuous leap to acknowledge that we are ALL sharing time and relative experience - in which case I apologize). It only demonstrates a shared objective perspective in time. Hope that clarifies.

:)

[Agape]

I don't want ( or mean ) to be mean but it seems to me, OMG, that you're slightly disappointed with the fact that the Avalon forum left Corey behind ( and similar to him prophets...

That isn't a thought that ever entered my mind.

I try to support truth, not personalities or agendas...

:sherlock:

Yes but certain type of 'phenomena' = 'truths' ( plural because these are always going to be relative truths ..) such as 'predictions of event' are inevitably associated with certain personality types creating them.

They do not 'shine on you from the sky' and do not just emerge by themselves .

They pretty much source with who mostly turn to 'false prophets' of your 'soon' , sooner or later .

I really do blame lack of education on part of this phenomenon at least because it's always been there .

The Chassidic Jewish community ( from what I've read and i'm no expert on that topic but finding it highly relevant point here ) or part of them at least ,
strongly believed in the 'second coming' and birth of messiah and restoration of new order of righteousness on earth ( kindly do not confuse this with the 'NWO' or other kind of zionist propaganda ) many times in their history,
speaking of 'religious people' now. When the times started to darken upon Europe before WWII and the esoteric groups and orders were actually all up and 'expecting major event' ( somehow it always comes on plate when war is looming over ) ,

they all hoped for the 'Golden Dawn' and the 'messiah' to come and bring peace is testing their faith .
Many people could have run away to safety .. because they knew what's underway,
the intellectuals knew it and the sensitives new it but there's always the 'matter of belief' coming through
and asking people to endure and suffer and 'hope will come' .

There were people who believed in the 'event' till the very day WWII was declared and till they were rounded and counted and sent to camps and strapped of their cloth and human dignity and then it was too late to run.


And yet .. if you look back , how many of these 'esoteric societies' , all of them almost were busy with 'predicting an event' confess that the event they predicted never happened but war did and everyone had to run, mostly, to save their own buts .

And I think .. it would happen these days too . Just another way .


The Muslims, the Jews , the Christians and just about too many 'faithers' all around the world believe something extraordinary will happen to change the course of mankind for better ,
and it may be that it will happen after the 'good faith' crosses the 'critical mass' mark and people realise they can't fix everything .


It's just that it does not seem to be any 'SOON' to me now



:angel:

[OMG]

Yes but certain type of 'phenomena' = 'truths' ( plural because these are always going to be relative truths ..) such as 'predictions of event' are inevitably associated with certain personality types creating them.

Good catch...yea I knew it was trouble when I wrote that about "truth"...lol.

There are generally two types of truths...ABSOLUTE and relative. Anything relative is related to "soon". Simple.

Yet even in a relative illusion/reality certain agendas and people argue from an Absolute value because they attribute an action or decision which they make "now" as Absolute. This is Not an ABSOLUTE truth but only a relative perspective. I was defending relative values (with a hidden meaning) when I said that "I support truth, not personalities or agendas", since the latter can be dominated by ego and fallacy.

So here's the tricky part...Our Essence/Consciousness can be tuned into or even be aware of ABSOLUTE TRUTH while everything else about/around us is relative. So even if we are interacting or discussing relative perspectives we have the capability to objectively look at what is transpiring (observing ourselves) at any given moment.

Now the ULTIMATE kicker is that ALL is TRUTH since everything exist' (be it conceptual, actual or potential, etc). Hence the statement "all is permissible but not all is beneficial". Or The Course in Miracles famous quote, "Nothing real can be threatned, nothing unreal exist'..."

:pop2:

[Agape]

Yes but certain type of 'phenomena' = 'truths' ( plural because these are always going to be relative truths ..) such as 'predictions of event' are inevitably associated with certain personality types creating them.

Good catch...yea I knew it was trouble when I wrote that about "truth"...lol.

There are generally two types of truths...ABSOLUTE and relative. Anything relative is related to "soon". Simple.

Yet even in a relative illusion/reality certain agendas and people argue from an Absolute value because they attribute an action or decision which they make "now" as Absolute. This is Not an ABSOLUTE truth but only a relative perspective. I was defending relative values (with a hidden meaning) when I said that "I support truth, not personalities or agendas", since the latter can be dominated by ego and fallacy.

So here's the tricky part...Our Essence/Consciousness can be tuned into or even be aware of ABSOLUTE TRUTH while everything else about/around us is relative. So even if we are interacting or discussing relative perspectives we have the capability to objectively look at what is transpiring (observing ourselves) at any given moment.

Now the ULTIMATE kicker is that ALL is TRUTH since everything exist' (be it conceptual, actual or potential, etc). Hence the statement "all is permissible but not all is beneficial". Or The Course in Miracles famous quote, "Nothing real can be threatned, nothing unreal exist'..."

:pop2:



That's right almost to the point . You can't take people out of the Equation . You can't take human personality, characters and fates out of the great equation .. it's the other way this is being REALLY DONE : by expanding and modifying the equation.

Applying 'absolute principles' to relative views thus creates illusion of 'spiritual plane' together with its 'truth' and 'guiding principles' . Every 'religion' is an artificial construct that occurs by 'sacrificing the truth' to 'public feed' .

The closest we are to truth , on the level where truth can be seen/perceived/received is within ourselves.
Outer truth are usually way way away from where your fulfilment of reality is concerned.

Fallen spiritual truth turn against each other . As 'In absence of God everything is allowed..'.

Should say, doesn't matter ... may the Light Shine Through ...



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[Daozen]

OMG, if you like philosophy; the bloggers mentioned here are a living example of Nirvana fallacy.

[The Freedom Train]

It seems to me that this is another example of duality....why can't hope and action coexist? Why does one approach have to be so totally denigrated in favor of the "right" way of looking at things?

The mind's handiwork - master of duality. All perspectives point, either directly or indirectly, to an ineffable truth.

[The Freedom Train]

The Event never happened on an external level, but it did happen. The awakening always was an internal process of facing your deepest fears, insecurities and embracing them with love. That was the transformation I was always expecting. Only it didn't come in a spaceship or a new financial system, but with great esoteric challenge and pain which crushed the ego and the personality. That is the Event and it's still ongoing for all of us. It waits for us to face it inside.

Truth.

And I would like to add, there may be the possibility of an "event" that *does* lend itself to an even greater acceleration of the collective awakening process. But, like others have pointed out, it seems to be counterproductive to wait for it with baited breath. Allowing and flexibility, stillness and receptivity - these seem to accelerate the awakening process in my own experience.

ALLOWING the process to unfold without trying to WILL IT into existence is a tenuous balancing act that, at least in my experience, lends itself to heightened states of awareness and inner peace. Rather than wait for it or give up on it, we can sense that it is already happening, and that our ability to allow it to continue, to be receptive to the energetic/vibrational shifts, releases us from the suffering that others who are swept along in the process may experience.

I wholeheartedly believe that this process does not pick and choose "worthy candidates" - we are all in this together. The illusion of control is incomplete - we do seem to have a choice, in that, we can go along with the process and surrender ourselves to it, or we can fight it and suffer. But we will all get there in the end.