Patriot act for internet ahead..

[shiva777]

as is becoming clearer to more and more people there are agendas within agendas within agendas...disinfo,misinfo,misdirection....this is why it is very IMPORTANT to not take what any "insider" has to say on face value

As a result of WikiLeaks, the Obama Administration may introduce a new bill that would allow government officials the ability to spy on Americans through the internet. Meanwhile, an army of hackers rally behind WikiLeaks by shutting down MasterCard and PayPal because they stopped all payments to WikiLeaks. Investigative journalist Wayne Madsen says we could see massive government surveillance of our personal computers, phones and surveillance of our internet activities.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaJvoXlcCT0&feature=player_embedded#!

[Carmody]

Every single single maximum level scientific pursuit is now hitting the glass ceiling of over unity technology. What is happening is that all the anomalies in each given area of scientific research are coming out as correlating together, all indicating how to gate or pull energies from the dimensional boundary systems. As this comes down the pipe with regard to more and more people figuring it out, the hammer comes down within the aspects of the control system.

we've learned too much too fast..
The idea of freedom, communication, justice, killing, etc..all that you see being paraded about is only symptomatic, and is not the core origin point of the PTB panic.

The real heat in the fire is coming from the over unity researchers and scientists who inadvertently are now, en masse, bumping into the limits of the standard scientific views on the fabric of the universe and are breaking all those taboos and 'laws', in a very overt manner.


A VERY large part of the why of this control of man,the instilling of fear, the watching the clamping down, the whole shebang, is coming out of this 'scientific development issue.

So when you sit and ponder these subjects of suppression of man, don't you forget or fail to understand where it is really coming from.

And thus.... get out there and directly explore those subjects.

As this is the area where the action is..... and the 'unfolding of' at least half of your future ---is being decided.

What I'm saying is that if you are 'one person'.....and you can and do carry the equivalent of 'one sword'..and you want to go to the place whee your efforts swing the battle positively for your group..then the most important battle you can join in on is in the 'over-unity' energy area.

That is the most important battle happening right now.

[RAKMEiSTER]

[19:29:37] <KennyMafakka> Lol, a dutch 16 year old has been arrested for attacking MasterCard
[19:29:54] * DA12GAUGE pass the joint to ev0lt
[19:30:01] <KennyMafakka> MasterCard/PayPal
[19:30:15] * hustlaz (Mibbit@hidden-AA41717E.pp.htv.fi) Quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
[19:30:49] <+LOGiX> ("\(^o^)/")
[19:31:18] <RAKMEiSTER> all they got was a kid that was ohh i have that app lets do it also , cause botnet attack haha trace
[19:32:07] <RAKMEiSTER> or.. (havent read about it though)

Oo The Dutch wait im dutch, i guess he was many that did it from just home 1pc at the time.

[shiva777]

yeah.many of the "leaks" from Wikileaks will be records of high level exchanges of people sending misinfo,disinfo,misdirection etc,etc ..and many of them will be interpreted by Wikileak promoters on face value....so Wikileaks will be yet another source of spreading disinfo/misinfo etc in MANY cases....many are promoting Wilileaks as though it's all about truths and "secrets" coming out ,when in many cases it's about exposure of high lvel "authority" figures spreading more lies and disinfo betweeen themselves/....nothing is to be taken on face value...while many in the altenative media scream "secrets revealed!"...those "secrets" may be just as misleading as mainstream propaganda is...so it's a mixsed bag and TPTB will make the most of it and spin the parts that benefit them and use it to furthur restrict freedom of speech and info

[Carmody]

What I'm saying is that over unity technology (dimensional gating, anti-gravity, spiritual connectivity, the whole shebang in one spot) has been quashed and killed on about an easy 100 different technological fronts, with regard to designs and operating procedures. An EASY 100. In total, there is a known number of quashed operations that have hit a # as high as 400 individuals and organizations, over the past 100+ years.

Nothing else as a 'committed action', will stop or stem the tide of this attempt at totalitarianism as fast or as completely as bursting the dam on the killer control of over-unity technology.

It really is your best hope. Seriously.


"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil
to one who is striking at the root."

----Henry David Thoreau

[Decibellistics]

What exactly is the Bill that would be passed? Is there a name for it. Also, not to be condescending or mean but this **** is already happening. There are supercomputers in arkansas that log what you buy on credit. we all have an i.p. address. we are able to be thrown in to a demographic on the web via marketing research which is aided by the supercomputers that will flood very specific advertisements to your personal networking sites. The corporations......that are tied to internet service providers have ties in the govt. I wonder........who the isp is for the govt. lol. OR, if the govt. is the isp for the corporations that are the isp for us. LOL I just woke up from a 16 hour coma from 20 hours of no sleep being in the studio. Sorry everyone haha.

[Bill Ryan]

TPTB will make the most of it and spin the parts that benefit them and use it to furthur restrict freedom of speech and info

I agree. It's pretty dangerous.

I'm sure Julian Assange is authentic and well-intentioned. But he may be playing right into their hands inasmuch as this is a perfect excuse to regulate heavily against a new form of what will be sold to the public as terrorism.

I've just now been watching a CNN feature on this, and presenting the 'hacktivists' responses as mindless cyber-violence is already starting to happen in the mainstream.

This is not Julian Assange's fault. If it was not him, they'd just wait for another opportunity to emerge. Everything is modeled and forecasted, and this could all reasonably have been expected to occur sooner or later, this year or the next.

Then they roll out the 'solution' to the 'problem --> reaction'. You can easily see the way it could go.


Nothing else as a 'committed action', will stop or stem the tide of this attempt at totalitarianism as fast or as completely as bursting the dam on the killer control of over-unity technology.

It really is your best hope. Seriously.


I do agree.


[19:29:37] <KennyMafakka> Lol, a dutch 16 year old has been arrested for attacking MasterCard
[19:29:54] * DA12GAUGE pass the joint to ev0lt
[19:30:01] <KennyMafakka> MasterCard/PayPal
[19:30:15] * hustlaz (Mibbit@hidden-AA41717E.pp.htv.fi) Quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
[19:30:49] <+LOGiX> ("\(^o^)/")
[19:31:18] <RAKMEiSTER> all they got was a kid that was ohh i have that app lets do it also , cause botnet attack haha trace
[19:32:07] <RAKMEiSTER> or.. (havent read about it though)

Oo The Dutch wait im dutch, i guess he was many that did it from just home 1pc at the time.

Huh? :)

[RAKMEiSTER]

http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/3884/WikiLeaks/article/detail/1070803/2010/12/09/Nederlandse-hacker-16-bekent-aanval-op-MasterCard.dhtml
http://translate.google.nl/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=nl&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.volkskrant.nl%2Fvk%2Fnl%2F3884%2FWikiLeaks%2Farticle%2Fdetail%2F1070803%2F2010%2F 12%2F09%2FNederlandse-hacker-16-bekent-aanval-op-MasterCard.dhtml

from 1st main post"Meanwhile, an army of hackers rally behind WikiLeaks by shutting down MasterCard and PayPal"
(and than was from irc copy/paste: part of the 16year old boy)

[Ahkenaten]

I think we all have presumed that the govt. is spying on Americans in all media since even before 911, but especially afterwards

I noticed in the dutch article it says that 'people who make their computers available' are guilty of cyber attacks..............well because armies of computers have been commandeered, I would imagine sometimes without people's knowledge or permission, I can't see how everyone who is 'involved' can be charged?

I guess we will have to totally shift to GUILTY UNTIL FOUND INNOCENT to facilitate law enforcement

[Fredkc]

to law enforcement, theres no such thing as innocent.
Only people they haven't caught yet.

It's how they make their living.

[5thElement]

While I applaud the idea behind Wikileaks - now that the world is focused on them and their name is being mentioned across the globe at office water coolers - they are ripe for the pickin' of disinfo artists. It's a shame that more information wasn't released prior to the turning on of the global spotlight :(

An interesting article from Rolling Stone on the life of one Wikileaks volunteer:

Meet the Most Dangerous Man in Cyberspace: The American Face of WikileaksAmerican hacker Jacob Appelbaum fights repressive regimes around the world. Now he's on the run from his own government.
By Nathaniel Rich
Dec 01, 2010 6:34 PM EST
On July 29th, returning from a trip to Europe, Jacob Appelbaum, a lanky, unassuming 27-year-old wearing a black T-shirt with the slogan "Be the trouble you want to see in the world," was detained at customs by a posse of federal agents. In an interrogation room at Newark Liberty airport, he was grilled about his role in Wikileaks, the whistle-blower group that has exposed the government's most closely guarded intelligence reports about the war in Afghanistan. The agents photocopied his receipts, seized three of his cellphones — he owns more than a dozen — and confiscated his computer. They informed him that he was under government surveillance.
http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/17389/238944?RS_show_page=0

5th

[fifi]

In the communist (police state) country where I came from (or escaped from), the police motto is: " Rather catch 10,000 innocent civilians, than let 1 guilty one escape".

[Banshee]

What I'm saying is that if you are 'one person'.....and you can and do carry the equivalent of 'one sword'..and you want to go to the place whee your efforts swing the battle positively for your group..then the most important battle you can join in on is in the 'over-unity' energy area.That is the most important battle happening right now.

Can you point us in the right direction? Links, etc? Remember, you're an expert. I and probably many others are "lay persons" so to speak. This sounds very enticing. Where should we look? Thanks much!