Ontario's Green Economic Assisted Suicide Plan

[Justplain]

Ontario, Canada's government has just introduced an incredibly inept and intrusive government green plan. For instance, every home will have to pass an 'energy audit' before it can be sold. Or, only one car in the driveway can have an internal combustion engine (after 2024).

They would require all homes to eventually be heated by electricity or geothermal. What happens to clean burning natural gas?

Can you imagine the 'energy police'?

This quote about Ontario's green plan sums it up: "...among other countless absurdities in this plan, will be subsidizing rich people who buy expensive, not-ready-for-prime time electric cars, as well as paying for the free electricity they’ll get to recharge them."

What a bunch of green fascists.

http://www.financialpost.com/m/wp/blog.html?b=business.financialpost.com/fp-comment/kevin-libin-ontarios-big-green-assisted-economic-suicide-plan

I can venture a guess as to where this comes from. The cabal/illuminati come up with another way to manipulate and milk the public with a fabricated crisis around atmospheric carbon levels based on refutable psuedo-science, communicated through the controlled media with detailed instructions on how to force the public to buy their 'clean energy' technology communicated via the bilderbergers/council on foreign relations/trilateral commission/bought academics/etc.

Just watch, one of the hi-tech companies of the military-industrial group will emerge with an expensive clean energy hi-volume electrical generator (i hear someone like Lockheed Martin is developing an expensive plasma generator).

This strategy is supported by the fact that the US government classifies any energy invention which exceeds a certain energy efficiency (source: Dr. steven Greer), so that all the high efficiency generators are suppressed in US black ops projects, and the only energy efficient designs we see are the weakest, and provided by an illuminati company.

Another fact that supports this forced shift away from oil/natural gas is the fact that the Rockefeller Foundation recently abandoned Exxon and any other fossil fuel investment, citing environmental concerns. If they are jumping out of the oil ship, which great grandaddy Rockefeller sailed to great wealth, then they must have inside info on where society's technology is heading. I bet they're heavily invested in this budding 'green tech'.

http://m.torontosun.com/2016/06/08/wynnes-climate-change-strategy-rewards-big-business-while-punishing-average-ontarians

This quote summarizes the problems with this plan:
"...for the average Ontarian, this plan is worse than nothing.
"Its carbon pricing component will raise the cost of living, increasing the prices of virtually all goods and services, in return for no significant decreases in greenhouse gas emissions linked to climate change.
"It will drive hundreds of thousands more Ontarians — particularly seniors on fixed incomes — into energy poverty, where they spend more than 10% of their income just to power their homes.
"It’s built on a financial house of cards — North America’s cap-and-trade market, which collapsed last month, resulting in California and Quebec, Ontario’s two new partners in cap-and-trade, receiving a mere 11% of the $700 million they anticipated in their latest auction of carbon credits.
"Ontario expects to make $1.9 billion annually to start when it joins this carbon trading market next year, and while it’s gamed the system so that it will make money initially, inevitably the carbon trading market will collapse, just as it did in North America last month and as it did in Europe following the 2008 global recession.
"And average Ontarians will be left holding the bag, as the Liberals will either increase taxes or the provincial debt to pay for the climate change schemes they announced Wednesday."

[Carmody]

the reality is that our energy use need to be rolled back, and rolled back 10 years ago.

The government forces rollbacks. Never admitting nor recognizing that the condition we are in is due to parasites ruling the roost and forcing the world to live and be off balance, for decades, so they can eat the world the way they want to.

And since the government is what it is, it is up to you to riot and go after oligarchs at take EVERYTHING from them, all on your own.

You have your obligations, which is to be responsible to the idea of democracy... by being as intelligent and as active as you can, without ever dropping your guard, no matter the level of distraction placed in your path.

As Winston Churchill said, "democracy is the worst governmental system possible, except for all the others".

Your job is to beat parasites out of the system in all ways. Forever. As parasites will never back down, they are what they are. Forever.

You are required to be the same. Which is akin to forever. As long as you breathe, chase it down. Always. In everything. Otherwise the parasites enter and it all breaks down. Just like now.

The longer it takes you to see it from the correct direction, the longer the parasites will rule.

I'm not interested in bitching, or any such deflection from the real problem at hand. The problem is one of not being true to self and the situation... and fixing this mess... by a required involvement level that is TOTAL.

[TrumanCash]

Yes, it sure looks like an economic suicide plan. And it's all based upon a huge political lie that carbon dioxide is bad.

All green plants thrive on carbon dioxide! They need it. This planet needs it. Anyone can actually demonstrate this principle:

If you want to increase the growth in your greenhouse, run a propane or natural gas heater in the greenhouse to produce more carbon dioxide to enhance growth. Or better yet, make a compost pile to give off natural carbon dioxide for the plants and watch the plant growth accelerate. And, of course, the more carbon dioxide that is made available the more oxygen the plant produces during the day so more carbon dioxide actually means more oxygen in the environment.

Oops! I shouldn't have said that--Now they will want to outlaw/tax compost piles and while they are at it, they would need to also outlaw/tax trees and all other living plants because they give off carbon dioxide at night. They would also need to outlaw the forest floor because the decaying matter gives off carbon dioxide.

[Justplain]

Hi Carmody, getting involved with the situation and taking personal responsibility for your situation is not anything most people would argue with. However, you seem to be taking the tone the one shouldnt complain too much, just fight with the parasites.

I agree to fight the parasites, and by posting this thread on this topic that is exactly what i am doing. The more people that understand that the public is being manipulated and milked, the more likely we'll get more responible leadership from our supposed democratic processes. So, in a democracy that works, fact based bitching should have positive results.

Thus, i dont get your point.

[Justplain]

Hi TrumanCash, i agree with you that carbon dioxide may not be the problem with global warming. I saw a university study a year or more back (i believe it was done at the u of waterloo here in ontario), that indicated a direct link between CFC's, the additives to coolant systems and old aerosole sprays, and atmospheric warming, whereas the same study showed there appeared to be no correlation with carbon dioxide and the warming. That study has not been heard from since, especially since it contradicts the cap+trade psuedo/fake science.

I have also seen a recent study of the sun that indicates that due to coiniciding cycles in the sun, Earth may be in for a mini-ice age around 2030 or so, possibly making all this global warming hysteria nonsense.

Many unbiased environmentalists agree that greater pollution problems need to be addressed that carbon dioxide levels. Certainly getting rid of carbon monoxide spewing technology is a good idea. However, we need true scientific facts, not propaganda, to determine the correct course of action. Also, having unfettered access to knowing all the energy tech available (ie. by opening classified energy info) would greatly enhance solution searching.

[Lifebringer]

The fracking has been causing massive leaks of methane in CA and earthquakes on the madrid fault line. Fracking should never have been implemented. Who eer heard of blowing up the ground below you to get a gas stream and destablilizing.

[sigma6]

and don't forget the term "global warming" is being market tested against "climate change"... now how can you go wrong with "climate change"?... all you have to do is look out your window... and say... my God! they're right! the Climate temperature just changed today! ... aaaaaahhhhhhh!!!! the sky is falling!...

[Carmody]

Hi Carmody, getting involved with the situation and taking personal responsibility for your situation is not anything most people would argue with. However, you seem to be taking the tone the one shouldnt complain too much, just fight with the parasites.

I agree to fight the parasites, and by posting this thread on this topic that is exactly what i am doing. The more people that understand that the public is being manipulated and milked, the more likely we'll get more responsible leadership from our supposed democratic processes. So, in a democracy that works, fact based bitching should have positive results.

Thus, i dont get your point.

We need to get physical, with regard to actually getting out there, starting up organizations, like the Judean people's front, or the People's front of Judea (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WboggjN_G-4).

essentially, you will not get and will never get responsible behavior from your democratic process as its corruption is complete. If you attempt to negotiate with it, will commit to lip service or whatever lie it needs to, to get you to not involve yourself directly. It will give you politicians falling on their sword, politicians seeming to fall out of favor, politicians of a different breed and type coming in, all that sort of stuff.

But the underlying dark control structure, directions, effects and end results... will NEVER shift from what the dark oligarchy wants the given country, province, county or state to have happen to it.

Basically they'll tell you whatever lie it takes to disarm you from getting involved in anything that creates real actual full-on change.

That's what is going on.

basically a new world order and agenda, marching along in force with the odd hiccup and meandering.. has not shifted or moved, it has marched along relentlessly, the the USA, since the time of Roosevelt in WWII.

For the USA, Canada, Israel, The UK, Saudi Arabia, Australia, the march has been perfect and relentless, since WWII, and Germany and France have had their own equivalence to such, as have some countries in Europe. Just like the media. we have an appearance of freedom and debate, but in reality, in the USA, 6 people of one specific ethnic background, control over 90% of ALL media that the public witnesses.

And that media marches in total lock step.

Just like the politics.

Jimmy Carter, the Ex-president of the USA, is the only one of that group with the slightest backbone,and he has said multiple times in the recent past that the USA is NOT any form of a democracy, it is a full on total oligarchy that is in control, and there is only the illusion of freedom.

And when governments and corporations collude, this is the textbook definition of FASCISM.

If you think that Ontario is much different than that average condition of the USA, you'd be seriously fooling yourself.

[Justplain]

Hi Carmody, i understand that you consider only physical confrontation as the only means for real change, though even that is debatable. Some say part of the illuminati plan is a Hegelian dialectic, and as long as they can buy the winning side they dont care. The struggle acts as a diversion, and therefore an illusion.

I dont really know an answer on the macro level. On a personal level i do believe you can release yourself from this illusion and live a modestly independent and perceptive life. That's really a victory in itself.

So, living an aware life takes you out of their control. Communicating what you are aware of furthers this goal for others. When enough are aware, the scheming will fail. Perhaps in time this will happen.

And quite frankly, the USA seems farther gone than my Canada, though we arent far behind.

[Carmody]

It's funny how these things end up happening, but I have a good friend of 30 years...who knows the current premier of Ontario. Went to school with her. Says she is a good person, they know her character and way, over a long period of time of analysis and association, essentially. I'm not even remotely kidding about this.

That Ontario, specifically the people of Ontario... are lucky to have her, considering all the total asshat insiders and sociopaths that are usually elected to such offices.


Note how ineffectual she's been placed as being. Note how messed up the politics are.


Let us be perfectly clear:

This is how good people with good ideas and good intent, good energy and willingness to do good things....are shredded in their directions, abilities, potentials, and attempts....by a system that is willing to take a knife and cut it's own eyes and heart out... rather than let the people be governed by other real people, and be successful.

Something so absolutely evil, that it would kill and wreck an entire country or derail a province like Ontario, rather than let anything good happen.

This is because Ontario, or any state or city government in the USA.... is now just a cog in their geared machine, and it means nothing to them. Nothing. Unless it conforms to their oligarchy, it will be destroyed, either subtly by interference.... or directly by more obvious means.

If the parasites can ride along and literally rape Ontario in the process of it trying to transform itself, that is the only way they will allow any of it to happen. Period. Otherwise they will destroy it, and create massive downturns and seemingly ineffectual governments via massive dark channel interference...eating it wholesale...on the way down.

consider the history of highway 407.

Over 100 billion spent, nothing to show for it, and now it's just a parasite highway owned by parasites who are feeding off Ontario.

It was a hardcore scam going in, a hardcore scam while being built, a hardcore scam when sold, and a continual bleeding open sore of a parasitical scam in day to day operation ---to this very day. Ongoing. Total running cost to the people of Ontario, over time, looks to be about 1/4 trillion dollars, with NOTHING to show for it.

So, you want to know where your financial headroom for such things as converting Ontario into a perfect energy machine are going, how it happens? Look to highway 407, as that is where the bloodlife of the province was bled off into parasites and the same will happen again, unless the people of Ontario work hard and with a million eyes on the specific details of who is involved, in every step, every freaking inch of every single motion of every single slip of paper. and almost every single bit of blame if anything goes wrong, it will not be the premier of Ontario, it will be the fully corrupt and connected private and civil system that is infiltrated with parasites of oligarchy whom are never seen or noticed.

That is what happened with highway 407. Besides the premiers involved being vassals, in that case. Which is why it went so badly.


You are dealing with dark hidden parasitical fascist oligarchy, of the worst kind. A total control based imperialist protection racket. With multiple faces but one united goal, like a wolf pack... with the odd power player that the rest respect. That is the state of the western world today.

Welcome to the real world.

[Justplain]

Hi Carmody, you do cite a very good example of corruption in the 407 highway. To know that you must know Ontario politics reasonably well.

If the current premier, Kathleen Wynne, is a good person, i couldnt really say. She runs her government autocratically and formulates policy with little or no public consultation. She won the last election by riding the public unions on a fear card that the opposition would fire them all. She runs her government like an illuminati puppet.

So granted that the parasites run things from behind the scenes and that they are psychopaths with no conscience, what do you suggest as a realistic way to dislodge them?

[amor]

On the subject of global warming, if there is any warming apart from what comes through Universal Cycles moving through our galaxy, it may be coming as a result of HAARP which is said to be radiating the polar south and north to melt the ice and snow in order to extract the oil and mineral wealth from those lands.

Since there are many simple ways to generate electricity by the homeowner independent of the Oligarchy, the only ways the Oligarchy will admit to or allow are ways so hugely expensive and technically complicated as to preclude anyone but their crooked selves from being able to execute it.

My suggestion to save the coal mines and jobs of the people customarily being employed there is to use them to create carbon fibers and carbon forms for everything from cars, homes, planes, spaceships, etc., etc. Also, life on this planet depends on the circulation of carbon dioxide and oxygen. However, we can stop the Oligarchs from breathing out carbon dioxide and in that way get rid of them.

As for energy for cars, etc., if the over unity magneto-motor is forbidden as being too accessible to the poor fools such as we are, then may I suggest once again the addition of the FIFTH WHEEL to transport, the turning motion of which will use a belt to turn a GENERATOR AS THE CAR MOVES RETURNING ELECTRICITY TO BATTERY AND ELECTRIC MOTOR. VOILA!

[amor]

After the earthquake/tidal wave in the area of the Indian Ocean occurred, it was said somewhere in the media that Exxon has set off a Nuclear device in its search for Oil. In 2005/06 I distinctly felt an earthquake in North Central Florida where I was at that time. Not long after there was the oil disaster attributed to British Petroleum in the Gulf of Mexico which I later read is a Salt Dome over Methane Gas just ripe to Blow its top; only recently I read that there is an under-water volcanoe in about the same location. Now the oil men have known this all along. Why would they use an underground detonation (most probably nuclear) to explore what they knew would bring about a disaster, perhaps the huge release of all the Methane Gas under the Dome which is holding up Florida and the central portion of America under the Mississippi River. The collapse of this huge land mass, sinking cities and nuclear plants permanently under water is absolutely a DELIBERATE TERRORIST, TREASONOUS ACT

[Carmody]

Hi Carmody, you do cite a very good example of corruption in the 407 highway. To know that you must know Ontario politics reasonably well.

If the current premier, Kathleen Wynne, is a good person, i couldnt really say. She runs her government autocratically and formulates policy with little or no public consultation. She won the last election by riding the public unions on a fear card that the opposition would fire them all. She runs her government like an illuminati puppet.

So granted that the parasites run things from behind the scenes and that they are psychopaths with no conscience, what do you suggest as a realistic way to dislodge them?

perhaps a better phrasing is good person as a good start, known from when back in her school years. And that being autocratic is possibly a good way to be sure the corruption inherent in the given civil systems which have 20+ year veterans and severe levels of hidden cronyism..perhaps being autocratic is a good way to make sure that things get done and without corruption. It can be the other way as well, where the autocratic aspects are used to push cronyism and hidden agendas.

We must remember that an emperor exists solely on the favour of the people who surround them.

The trick lies in understanding the meaning and intent of the given autocratic behavior and the result. No matter the meaning the parasites will fight to enter the system and eat it to stillness. A hihgtly intelligent person can still be incapable of seeing or understanding the hidden avenues of corruption. Or even decide to work with what exists, in order to get something, anything...done. Instead of just a flat out feeding on the public, one that has a less than zero net benefit. This last consideration and direction... is how most politicians of conscience tend to be forced into going. They end up dealing with the oligarchic protection racket upfront and personal, and you never get to know about it. Business as usual.

Getting past that requires a full on exposure of the parasite oligarch class, no matter their given individual origins and modus operandi. Parasites exposed are then dead parasites, as the host will only properly kill them. So, potential of exposure.... is a full-on life and death battle, as the parasite cannot exist without the host. The parasite works as hard as it can to control all possible avenues of exposure, and it will do it clandestinely as is possible. Simple obvious straightforward logic.


With the Canadian dollar at approx 1.3x and the province of Ontario being the powerhouse of the Canadian economy, we find that in all things being equal, Ontario should be completely ON FIRE with industrial and manufacturing intensity. Absolutely white hot. Yet it it is not.

Recall the US interference with Alberta and Harper being the US/Neocon/Oil Party/(seemingly)east-coast-zionist representative (they flock together when it works for them).

In Norway, each citizen is basically a millionaire in what capital gains the government is holding for them. In Alberta, the 'capitalism' of the ruling elite there, in government, has left the citizens of Alberta with nothing. Yet the levels of energy funds that have passed from the lands or properties of Norway vs that of Alberta, are similar.

Just the slightest touch of socialist thinking and Albertans would be miles ahead of where they are now. All due to the parasites who were allowed to implant Albertan minds with a ego stroke job..it filled their their minds with bull**** memes of 'capitalist independent gun toting cowboy romance... wrapped in flags of freedom' types of mentality. When ego and blinders costs you everything.

Ontario suffers no less the same level of (but different) war mongering 'north American union' type interference. This is why Ontario is not experiencing a huge boom right now, when by all possible measure, it should be.

You wouldn't see popular media speaking that Canada is infiltrated with massive amount of US and globalist originated parasitism. Yet this has been true, regarding US infiltrators and plants, since before the war of 1812, in reality... since approximately 1776. When the idea of the border became an issue.

Canada is absolutely key to any form of a shut down and reboot of north America, as it is a resource engine ... which the USA machine cannot reasonably reboot without. Therefore the inserted controllist barbs have to be ----total. It's a more than 200 year long battle to end that border.

Americans tend to fail to note that the old forts along the US border on the Canadian side, all have their old cannons and guns pointed at the USA.


SO I read the article from the financial post. It appears to be an oligarch plan to reform the powerhouse of the Canadian economy by running the citizens of Ontario into the ground.

Ie, get off oil and gas by pandering to the kind of blinders that a given neutral to liberal mindset might entertain.... but kill Ontario and get it ready for being ripe for the plucking for the North American union. So the citizens will be wiped, but the infrastructure will be shifted and intact.

Oligarchs and power structures would agree with this, as it leaves all options in their hands, from beginning to end. And the citizens are duped again, and left as chattel and cattle.

A form of a slow decade long neutron bomb for Ontario's current state of affairs. And the parasites eating wholesale, along the way. “Prima nocta” for Ontario and the North American union plan. Remember, Canada is essential to the north American union plan, and thus Ontario is central, and this shift has to be stable and functioning in Ontario, for all this to work.

So, Ontario must change (as all the rest of the world must change)...but not like this, regarding Ontario citizen welfare.

And the people won't see it coming, for the most part.


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Globalism means loss of personal independence, and independence, in a global system... is only meaningfully functional for the individual... in the face of a non-oligarchical system.

Democracy means respect of personal rights.... but a semblance of common good and common order imposed upon the individual.

Again, this is only functional when oligarchy ceases to exist in such systems.

If such systems as globalism try to arise, with oligarchy intact, the oligarchy will become painfully obvious..... as the parasite aspects of individuals seeking wealth and power - as a banded group, such will become PAINFULLY obvious to the average person.

This is because, at that point there will be 'no difference' in country and/or physical position on the globe (which normally hides the inter-connectivity, and whatnot). All pieces are set to serve the whole and democracy or respect of individual life-- dies an ignored death, as it (individualism) is just a part, a tool, a thing that is used.

We see the path in and of it, in how a already globalist oligarchy treats everyone.... as if those borders do not exist. They use and ignore borders in whatever way they can or desire... with regard to lying to the public about any part of it. To truly erase the border, means the public finally sees it in totality, in clarity.

Globalism with parasites and oligarchy.... is equal to open slavery as seen by all.

In which case, it is "make the people stupid via curtailing and distraction, genetically, and so on (permanently stupid and of lesser mental reach), of a separate animal worker class"..... or..... the citizens rise up and kill the oligarchy.

Simple enough. viewed from the now and as projection...Humanity separates into a two component race, one worker class and one ruling class, or..... oligarchy dies.

It might be best to understand that life here is an intelligence test, and you are in a war.

A war you are being held to not see as existing. To not understand that....will cost you your family and their future, to be turned into a commodity that is to be wielded and eaten, at will.

This is the Avalon forum, and I'll say I've seen that sort of world, I've lived that sort of life.

It is a horror beyond words.

[Justplain]

Hi Carmody, i can vaguely imagine how horrible such a world would be, one of globalism with the oligarchic 'elite' psychopaths and the dumbed down worker class. It sounds like you are hinting at mr Icke's reptilian parasites who supposedly control the human oligarch families.

Regarding Ontario, the middle class here has been gutted by the free trade deals, which erase borders and really only benefit the oligarchs. The tpp trade deal is an extension of that, only worse. And as usual it was formulated in private with absolutely no public consultation.

Regarding mz Wynne, she has been a member of the current provincial government long enough to be considered a partner in the cronyism, with her involvement in the gas plant scandal, the e-health scandal, the ornge fiasco, the subversive ongoing sex-ed curriculum scandal and now this repressive green plan. She, in my opinion is demonstrably carrying out the illuminati agenda you so aptly describe.

Regarding removing the oligarchy, a place to start would be for all public policies to be reviewed in committee before passing into law. These committees should be composed of various elected and nonelected stakeholders. Then a member of the committee that objected to a policy could expose it to the public.

Another measure could be to ban corporations from getting over a certain size. Banning corporate control of the news media is another, and also limiting the amount of ownership an individual can have in a news media entity is another.

You seem to imply that the parasites have to be killed. I am not sure of that route despite how evil they are. I would be all for stripping them of their wealth, and therefore their influence. If there are identifiable reptilian parasites around i would say round them up and lock them up, if we can do that. I am not in favour of using unnecessary violence, with its negative karmic consequences.

I would also say that by us openly discussing how the public are being manipulated and milked, this green plan being an example, we further expose their activities, methods and plans. Being thus exposed they become more at risk for when their day of judgement arrives.