Stewart Swerdlow and Andrew Basiago Both Agree Life on Mars Exists

[DNA]

I find it interesting that Stewart Swerdlow states that Mars has an atmosphere and life. Swerdlow states that there are some plant life and animal life on Mars.
I also find it interesting that Swerdlow states that according to the Montauk Program every point in space time has a specific vibration that is unique to that place in time, making it possible to travel to those coordinates by recreating the energy and or vibration of that place and time.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpO9Eghln4g


I find it also interesting that Andrew Basiago states the same about Mars. He states that there is a breathable atmosphere with plant and animal life. Further more Basiago states the same in terms of traveling to various places in time using a chrono-visor which he states requires one to enter a set of vibrational coordinates that are very specific and unique to each and every time in space. Basiago also states that some Martians still live underground below the surface on Mars.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqMt3jT8T6k


The two videos with Basiago and Swerdlow I find really good, and I find it amazing how much they agree on all of these strange things.

On another strange note, Rush Limbaugh of all people, released a statement a few years back on something called the Gore Report.
Rush stated that he was privy to some top secret information, and that this information stated that there was in fact life on Mars at one time, and that Mars self destructed through war and what not. The interesting tid-bit though, is that Rush states that the Martians are still alive and live underground on Mars. Further more, Rush states that these folks from Mars are genetically related to those here on earth who belong to the Skull and Bones fraternity.
A very explosive piece of information coming from an unexpected source.
It's short enough for me to state it is worth listening to.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojtoLBq6DNc

[NeedleThreader]

The Rush video is very interesting to me and has me confused, probably its true purpose here.

Rush says: "as a powerful influential member of the media I know more than you do, especially about this. I have seen a highly classified report that hasn't been released publicly, code named the Gore report provided by scientists by area 52 in New Mexico......there was life on mars.....very arrogant people.....thought that power was all that was needed to sustain them.....they were globalists...everybody suffered until people died out...they went underground and then came here....they had oil, gas, ASIAN RAINFORESTS, (WTF?)...so many people living close together...it's clear ladies and gentleman that mars was once the jewel of the solar system and mars was raped by capitalism, this is what NASA has said ladies and gentleman...the icecaps melted..exactly what happened here but not everybody on mars died, some were able to flee and this is what they came here for and that is why UFO's and the phoenix lights are all about they are fleeing mars...the elites were able to get off...the stunning thing is that they are here, they are in america, they work at Halliburton, they worked at Enron, they are at Boeing, and the Gore report shows that they have not learned a thing".

Straight off the bat, the fact that he is connecting martians to the skull and bones society, Enron, Halliburton is silly. Unless you tie in the reptilian blood line theory which I am on the fence about. But seriously folks, this guy is sloppily throwing names out there, tying them to evil doing. That is easy. What isn't easy is providing hard evidence to back up such wild claims.

My initial gut reaction is that perhaps Rush really does believe this because he was fed some serious disinfo by "NASA". Does this guy normally talk about this sort of topic? He has always made me cringe so I have avoided him in my internet travels as much as possible, but for a conservative left-wing nut case to be talking like this casually is bonkers.

Where is this Gore Report? Wouldn't he be blatantly betraying NASA by exposing this on air and come under at least a little fire? He clearly took this mars story and ran with it using his own agenda to paint the picture of what life on mars was like, quite colorfully I might add, for someone who's imagination can't get beyond his own bigotry and racism. It seems he has not publicly endorsed Trump but is extremely anti-Hillary. Who isn't these days?

While I admit Mars has some pretty interesting aspects to its history, I do not think it comes anywhere near this fabrication.

In The Light,

[Foxie Loxie]

Really enjoyed the Rush video, since I do not "follow" him. I laughed when I found he came to a same conclusion I had...that the Star of Bethlehem was a UFO! I wonder who his friends in high places are? ;) Had heard about the huge ship seen "sliding" on Mars, so was happy to see the picture! Thanks so much!

[DNA]

The Rush video is very interesting to me and has me confused, probably its true purpose here.

Rush says: "as a powerful influential member of the media I know more than you do, especially about this. I have seen a highly classified report that hasn't been released publicly, code named the Gore report provided by scientists by area 52 in New Mexico......there was life on mars.....very arrogant people.....thought that power was all that was needed to sustain them.....they were globalists...everybody suffered until people died out...they went underground and then came here....they had oil, gas, ASIAN RAINFORESTS, (WTF?)...so many people living close together...it's clear ladies and gentleman that mars was once the jewel of the solar system and mars was raped by capitalism, this is what NASA has said ladies and gentleman...the icecaps melted..exactly what happened here but not everybody on mars died, some were able to flee and this is what they came here for and that is why UFO's and the phoenix lights are all about they are fleeing mars...the elites were able to get off...the stunning thing is that they are here, they are in america, they work at Halliburton, they worked at Enron, they are at Boeing, and the Gore report shows that they have not learned a thing".

Straight off the bat, the fact that he is connecting martians to the skull and bones society, Enron, Halliburton is silly. Unless you tie in the reptilian blood line theory which I am on the fence about. But seriously folks, this guy is sloppily throwing names out there, tying them to evil doing. That is easy. What isn't easy is providing hard evidence to back up such wild claims.

My initial gut reaction is that perhaps Rush really does believe this because he was fed some serious disinfo by "NASA". Does this guy normally talk about this sort of topic? He has always made me cringe so I have avoided him in my internet travels as much as possible, but for a conservative left-wing nut case to be talking like this casually is bonkers.

Where is this Gore Report? Wouldn't he be blatantly betraying NASA by exposing this on air and come under at least a little fire? He clearly took this mars story and ran with it using his own agenda to paint the picture of what life on mars was like, quite colorfully I might add, for someone who's imagination can't get beyond his own bigotry and racism. It seems he has not publicly endorsed Trump but is extremely anti-Hillary. Who isn't these days?

While I admit Mars has some pretty interesting aspects to its history, I do not think it comes anywhere near this fabrication.

In The Light,


In so far as the Martian connection with humans in leadership positions here on earth, it's long been a belief by many that the actual top of the Illuminati is not human. I've never really speculated on what non-human entity it might be, but Martian fills in the blanks as well as anything else.
It factors right into what Charles Forte was trying to say back in the early 20th century.
Robert Anton Wilson was saying something very similar in his Illuminatus Trilogy.
Andrew Basiago states that he met a few Martians, both on Mars, and in highly classified United States military installations here on Earth. Basiago states that these Martians are basically human beings and pretty much look just as we do.
I also find it interesting that we can find a Jump Room to Mars, a secret cabal on Mars that controls both of our planets in the fictional piece "John Carter" which was written by Edgar Rice Burroughs as "the princess on mars".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcV7aXL8txU
pcV7aXL8txU

[Bill Ryan]

ASIAN RAINFORESTS, (WTF?)

Ancient rainforests, he said. :)

This is an allegory... of course. He's making political comments about Planet Earth. It's not real.

[DNA]

ASIAN RAINFORESTS, (WTF?)

Ancient rainforests, he said. :)

This is an allegory... of course. He's making political comments about Planet Earth. It's not real.


I'm of the opinion that all of us have a built in lie detector. I state this because it is my opinion that a lot of folks have turned theirs off and or just stopped trusting it.
I trust my built in lie detector. I find that even when amazing odds are stacked up against what my lie detector is telling me, in the end, my lie detector was correct.
I do not feel Rush is lying in this monologue further more, I do not think he is doing this for some kind of allegory. I always consider your input Mr. Ryan very highly. You are the resident expert and the rest of us are mostly just grabbing for leverage as we slip down the alternative news mountain. A lot of disinformation so I understand your sentiments here. I've not made up my mind, but I'm giving Rush's monologue on the Gore Report the benefit of the doubt based on my gut.
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https://redice.tv/news/the-gore-report-life-on-mars-discussed-by-rush-limbaugh-in-2004-the-mars-bloodline

Every now and then there is a "glitch in the Matrix" - and someone in a position of influence lets the curtain drop, and reveals insider secrets.

Read the world-exclusive premiere of one of the more amazing examples of this, three years after it first happened... suggesting that the Powers That Be not only believe Mars was once inhabited, but think they are the descendants of this ancient race.

Rush Spills the Beans... and the story is immediately "sanitized"Say what you will about David Wilcock, but he was apparently all over this.
http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/302-the-revealing-iii-the-mars-bloodline

RUSH SPILLS THE BEANS... AND THE STORY IS IMMEDIATELY 'SANITIZED'
Three years ago, one of our clients alerted us to a stunning Rush Limbaugh broadcast that aired on March 4, 2004.
Had this been covered by the mainstream media and discussed with any seriousness, it could well have pierced the veil of UFO secrecy and led to some form of open disclosure.
Some cynics will simply say that Rush was "joking."
With great laughter and withering sarcasm, they will declare that the whole thing was an elaborate tongue-in-cheek attack against former VP Gore.
Rush was merely snickering at the Democrats' platform of man-made Global Warming -- tying it in with fringe elements like "Area 52", UFOs and Martians.
"Return to your homes, folks, nothing to see here."

DISINFORMATION REQUIRES A SPRINKLING OF TRUTH
However, the problem may be that in order to do good "disinformation," you actually have to introduce some truth in to what you are saying.
Rush might not have done that. His data correlates with a variety of other pieces we have put together, and this seems more than just an accident.
This could explain why the insiders were not willing to "run with the ball" and acknowledge his "joke".
It was too dangerous -- and might get the public asking the 'wrong' questions.
Somebody really freaked out about this -- and tried to completely remove all records of its existence from the internet.

PROMOTING A NICE, SQUEAKY-CLEAN INTERNET
We first found out about it on March 15th, 2004. By that point, any transcript of the show had already been "sanitized" from the internet.
Our client said this highly suspicious effect started within days of when the broadcast had aired.
There were a few places left where you could read it, but only in the Google cache. Once those had cleared, which only takes a few days, it was gone for good.
Three years later, the most detailed searches turn up absolutely no record of it ever having happened.
Keep that fact in mind before rushing to judgment (pun intended!) about it being "nothing more than a joke."
We do this to ease the psychological pressure that might otherwise result if we are faced with uncomfortable new concepts.
Let's survey the evidence supporting the truth of what he said after we review the transcript.

WHY DID NOTHING ELSE DISAPPEAR?
Also, ask yourself why OTHER broadcasts were NOT removed from his website so quickly... only this one.
Overall, this may well be an Illuminati insider revealing some of their deepest secrets.
This could include the total obsession with the bloodlines of the elite, a subject invariably brought up by every single whistleblower you find.
If this was Rush's idea of a joke for other insiders, hoping to "hide out in the open" in front of the "sheep," his bosses were NOT laughing.
No indication was given on the webpage, or in the broadcast, of it ever being a joke, as you'll see for yourself. And it was not April Fool's Day.
When we first heard this astonishing broadcast, and read the transcript, we were really in a bind as to whether we should disclose it or not.
For whatever reason, we decided not to. Such has been the case with much of the material you are now reading in "The Revealing".
We've finally decided that now is the time to come forward with this fascinating story. Here is the transcript of what Rush stated. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ascension2/endgamenwo/therevealing03a.htm

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The more I look at this, the more I believe that Rush was floored by information he had received, and he just went about vocalizing this on his show as a way of dealing with this. His tone of voice indicates he is having a paradigm crumble within his mind.
How this has been handled since truly leads me to believe that he was not supposed to talk about this.
The information has all but been sanitized from the internet. And I have yet to find Rush stating that this was a joke anywhere.

[Carmody]

As for rush and skull and bones being made up of martians, whatever.... read this plot synopsis:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giants_series

Also do a follow up on the author's late speculations and statements and then the suddenness of his death thereafter.

(I might have the wrong series plot synopsis! so many novels floating around in my head...)

[DNA]

NASA confirmed recently that there is in fact water on Mars. This would certainly help support the Swerdlow-Basiago claim of life currently existing on Mars.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAwqTFi0_Xo

The Kid from Russia Boriska states at 2:00 that not only was there a civilization on Mars, but that there is still a civilization living underground there. Boriska states that Martians breath Carbon Dioxide, and that to breath Oxygen causes aging. At 6:00 minutes Boriska states that Mars has canals, swamps, green vegetation, animal life but that information agencies spread disinformation so that no one knows about life on Mars.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4P0V96BAss

Here is the Project Camelot Interview of Boriska. It's always nice to go back and watch these Bill and Kerry videos. :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7Xcn436tyI

[DNA]

At 4:48 Jackie a former NASA employee calls in to "coast to coast" and states how while working in 1979 with half a dozen other NASA workers they were watching the live camera feed on the large screen monitor from the Viking rover they saw two men in protective suits walk over a small hill towards the Viking Rover when their camera feed was cut off.
John Lear was the guest, states that these were probably technicians on Mars there to do work on the Viking Rover.
John Lear goes onto state that the technicians wouldn't need too much protection due to a think breathable atmosphere being present on Mars.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7PfoJrXGro

[Danley]

Dear Avalonians,

On last Monday, while watching the Stewart Swerdlow Video I´ve made a very unusual experience.
In approximately at around 37m40s our german shepard Alaska walked up to our front door and reacted like, someone is out there and she barked once.
Maybe 3-5 seconds later the exact same barking sound appeared in the video (time mark: 37m48s)
What do you think about this??
Unfortunately I cannot prove the whole incident, just the barking sound in the video, which is not so easy to explain.
I'm still flashed from this experience! :-)
By the way: I already wrote to Stewart, hoping to get an answer, if there was a dog in the conference room.

Best Wishes to you all!
Daniel from Switzerland






Mod edit from Bill: also posted on its own thread, here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91352-Unexplainable-audio-time-phenomenon-with-manifestation-on-external-YouTube-video-seconds-later). Please discuss this incident there. THX. :thumbsup:

[DNA]

Information Found HERE (http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2012/07/three-principal-typologies-of-humanoid-beings-on-mars-andrew-d-basiago.html)


Three principal Exophenotypes of humanoid beings on Mars by Andrew D. Basiago
1-NOSFERATUhttp://exopolitics.blogs.com/.a/6a00d8341c73dd53ef01761652d160970c-pi

The three principal typologies of humanoid beings on Mars.

"There are three principal typologies of humanoid beings on Mars.

"The first typology, which I call Homo martis terris, are our genetic relatives from the time before the solar system catastrophe of 9,500 BC, when Earth and Mars were in contact. They resemble bald, homely Earthlings. This is the type that my father and I met at Curtiss-Wright in 1970.

"The second typology, which I call Homo martis martis, are the indigenous Martians. They have narrower heads, pointier ears, longer fingers, and smaller bodies than Earthlings. They resemble the vampire Count Orlock in the vintage silent film, Nosferatu (below). We were advised that if hungry enough, they would sometimes kill and eat human visitors from Earth, so we should be wary of them. This is the type that I encountered when walking through the dilapidated brick city to deliver the data disk to the communications center there.

"The third typology, which I call Homo martis extraterrestrialis, resemble the Grey ETs of the UFO contact literature. This is the type that Courtney M. Hunt and William B. Stillings and I encountered on the roof of the jump room facility called The Corkscrew when we arrived via jump room one time in 1981-82. They are probably the result of a branch of the Greys that was left back on Mars at some time in Martian history.

"There is a fourth typology of humanoid being on Mars, the tiny ones that Dave Beamer has detected being crushed under the wheels of our rovers. I don't include this type -- Homo martis deminimis -- in this taxonomy because they are far smaller than the three other typologies of Martians and us."

-- Andrew D. Basiago, president, Mars Anomaly Research Society

[Bill Ryan]

"There are three principal typologies of humanoid beings on Mars."



There are certainly bases on Mars (ET and/or human), and a bunch of artifacts, too, including some large ones — but it's highly unlikely (I'd say impossible) that there are any indigenous species there.

From a biological perspective, you have to have a large enough population for them to breed and remain viable, and then they need shelter, food, and (unless they're very primitive) infrastructure, farming, transportation, mining, and factories.

If they are primitive, then they need forests, plants, animals, and so on (and quite a LOT of all that! ask any Native American, or Amazonian Indian) to subsist on as hunter-gatherers.

There are some curiosities on Mars, to be sure, but none of the above can be seen in the obvious widespread quantities that would have to exist to support humanoid beings, which are essentially on top of a very large pyramidal food chain.

For me, this is further evidence that not one of Andy Basiago's stories about Mars is credible and can be believed.

[ks4ever]

High Bill,
I found the images of the Hale Crater published on the ESA web site a number of years ago to be quite revealing in terms of the possibilities of civilization. The link I had for one of the photos is below but the image has been deleted from their web site. I would post a high resolution image here but not sure how to do it. I will email it to you.
www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&keyword=hale%20crater&single=y&start=7

[Bill Ryan]

High Bill,
I found the images of the Hale Crater published on the ESA web site a number of years ago to be quite revealing in terms of the possibilities of civilization. The link I had for one of the photos is below but the image has been deleted from their web site. I would post a high resolution image here but not sure how to do it. I will email it to you.
www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&keyword=hale%20crater&single=y&start=7

Maybe this one? Auto-resized here to fit the page, but it's 2283 x 1522 px (very large)... right-click and Save As to download.

http://www.esa.int/var/esa/storage/images/esa_multimedia/images/2004/11/crater_hale_in_perspective_looking_west/10092903-2-eng-GB/Crater_Hale_in_perspective_looking_west.jpg

[DNA]

There are certainly bases on Mars (ET and/or human), and a bunch of artifacts, too, including some large ones — but it's highly unlikely (I'd say impossible) that there are any indigenous species there.

From a biological perspective, you have to have a large enough population for them to breed and remain viable, and then they need shelter, food, and (unless they're very primitive) infrastructure, farming, transportation, mining, and factories.

I've lived in areas of Arizona where upon if you were to take some of the crappy pictures that NASA takes of Mars you would be hard pressed to think life could exist. But I guarantee you it does, it not only exists it thrives.

And that brings another subject up. Why are all of the pictures taken by NASA so laughably bad? Why are the photos of such low quality?

And in so far as any of the data brought back by NASA I'm sure we would all have to agree that it is suspect. Ask yourself would NASA tell us if life existed on Mars?

I'm not saying there is life Mars, but, I reserve the right to state as of yet I see no reason to not acknowledge the possibility.

I acknowledge the possibility of life Mars. That is all, and as such I'm exploring those possibilities in the hopes others may find this journey of enough interest to explore some of these possibilities with me as well.


If they are primitive, then they need forests, plants, animals, and so on (and quite a LOT of all that! ask any Native American, or Amazonian Indian) to subsist on as hunter-gatherers.
If there is a human level intelligence on Mars then I'm sure they probably exist below the surface in a much more elaborate version of the DUMBS used here on earth. Such is stated by Andrew Basiago and Boriska.



There are some curiosities on Mars, to be sure, but none of the above can be seen in the obvious widespread quantities that would have to exist to support humanoid beings, which are essentially on top of a very large pyramidal food chain.

You've postulated that Secret Space Program bases exist on Mars, and you probably feel their supply line depends on the jump rooms them selves.

What if the secret space program we talk about got their jump room technology from those that already live on Mars?

And what if the Martians have been feeding themselves with a similar supply line, they could have ancient jump rooms to earth and or to other planets for all we know as long as this line of logic concerning logistics is concerned.
Also, they may have a self sufficient means of supporting themselves in a contained environment underground, something like what we think of as domed structures in the craters of the moon could surely exist under the surface of Mars.


For me, this is further evidence that not one of Andy Basiago's stories about Mars is credible and can be believed.

I'm of the opinion that we all have built in lie detectors. I trust my built in lie detector. My gut tells me that Andrew Basiago is not lying. This allows me to suspend my judgement on Basiago and hear him out while I correlate data from other individuals especially in so how it relates with Basiago's.
I do not have to make up my mind in terms of believing him or not believing him. I am only interested in the data and how it pings with the stories of others who I do not believe are lying.

In truth, life being on Mars is no more outrageous or incredible than the existence of jump rooms, or UFO's or DUMBS. As a matter of fact, being as most of this stuff is common hat around here, wouldn't life on Mars not be a difficult thing at all to work out if you were to think out of the box and put these things to work for such means to exist?
If a race living on Mars were to utilize jumprooms, UFO's and DUMBS surely they could exist on Mars no problem. Right?

[Sunny-side-up]

High Bill,
I found the images of the Hale Crater published on the ESA web site a number of years ago to be quite revealing in terms of the possibilities of civilization. The link I had for one of the photos is below but the image has been deleted from their web site. I would post a high resolution image here but not sure how to do it. I will email it to you.
www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&keyword=hale%20crater&single=y&start=7

Maybe this one? Auto-resized here to fit the page, but it's 2283 x 1522 px (very large)... right-click and Save As to download.

http://www.esa.int/var/esa/storage/images/esa_multimedia/images/2004/11/crater_hale_in_perspective_looking_west/10092903-2-eng-GB/Crater_Hale_in_perspective_looking_west.jpg

Nice post:

that image bill, it's not an actual photo is it? it's a computer generated image and so has no investigative content :(

[Bill Ryan]

that image bill, it's not an actual photo is it? it's a computer generated image and so has no investigative content :(

Yes, it's a real photo. Or they clearly say it is, although it does look like a large model on a table! It has very strange square-angled straight edges, and I do agree the quality appears extraordinarily high.

The ESA page is here:

http://esa.int/spaceinimages/Images/2004/11/Crater_Hale_in_perspective_looking_west

Descriptive text:



This perspective view, taken by the High Resolution Stereo Camera (HRSC) on board ESA’s Mars Express spacecraft, shows Crater Hale on Mars.
The image is centred at latitude 36° South and longitude 324° East. The image was taken with a ground resolution of about 40 metres per pixel during Mars Express orbit 533 in June 2004.
It shows a closer view of Crater Hale, with its terraced walls (centre to right) and its central peak (foreground).
There's another one, equally spectacular, here:

http://esa.int/spaceinimages/Images/2004/11/Crater_Hale_in_perspective_looking_north-west

http://www.esa.int/var/esa/storage/images/esa_multimedia/images/2004/11/crater_hale_in_perspective_looking_north-west/9775047-3-eng-GB/Crater_Hale_in_perspective_looking_north-west_node_full_image_2.jpg


These two images are very well-known, and have been extensively copied all over the net, and on other NASA-related sites. If anyone has information that this is really a well-lit, detailed model, I'd certainly like to know. (I'm still pondering the straight-line edges of the thing. Am I missing something??)

Assuming what we see here is the clarity of image that's possible, what would have been nice is someone had been able to / thought of / been willing to / steer the Mars Express spacecraft to take a good look at Cydonia. That's by far the most interesting area of Mars, and most of the NASA satellites have somehow avoided it.

[ThePythonicCow]

Descriptive text:

This perspective view, taken by the High Resolution Stereo Camera (HRSC) on board ESA’s Mars Express spacecraft(I'm still pondering the straight-line edges of the thing. Am I missing something??)

The High Resolution Stereo Camera (HRSC) (http://sci.esa.int/mars-express/34826-design/?fbodylongid=1597) doesn't simply "take a picture".

It takes a line at a time, relying on the spacecraft's motion to move from line to line. It has rows of sensors and filters that can collect data at several different spectral lengths. Then a computer has to do some serious processing to make it into a photo like image, including refining how the shadows can be used to clearly present the 3-D information implicit in the variations between the two stereo sets of sensors.

So I presume that the edges are just where the computer quit processing for this particular image.

[Sunny-side-up]

Descriptive text:

This perspective view, taken by the High Resolution Stereo Camera (HRSC) on board ESA’s Mars Express spacecraft(I'm still pondering the straight-line edges of the thing. Am I missing something??)

The High Resolution Stereo Camera (HRSC) (http://sci.esa.int/mars-express/34826-design/?fbodylongid=1597) doesn't simply "take a picture".

It takes a line at a time, relying on the spacecraft's motion to move from line to line. It has rows of sensors and filters that can collect data at several different spectral lengths. Then a computer has to do some serious processing to make it into a photo like image, including refining how the shadows can be used to clearly present the 3-D information implicit in the variations between the two stereo sets of sensors.

So I presume that the edges are just where the computer quit processing for this particular image.

Yes Paul that is the process I was trying to point out.
Not a straight forward photo, this is in effect computer generated, just like any land mass in a computer game!

It is all gained from actual imagery tho, but what has been proceed out, or in for that matter?

Wish they also added the good old fashioned one-point, one view photo image to compare.

[DNA]

In so far as the argument for life existing on Mars is concerned, I was recently reminded of the incident with Russia's Phobos 2, a probe sent in the late eighties that photographed what appeared to be a rocket type shadow leaving the surface of Mars before all communication was lost from Phobos 2 and the probe was seemingly destroyed.


At 12:10 in the video below they start talking about the incident with Phobos 2 the probe sent to Mars that Russia lost and this is complimented by some rare Russian footage of the actual shadow seen launching from the Martian surface.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbFfecSfYyU
qbFfecSfYyU


Nothing here is definitive of course, but I believe this leads to some healthy speculation.
Could this be an underground advanced terrestrial humanoid of which we would refer to as a Martian alien?
Or, if this in fact did happen as depicted, could this be a colony of the earth, a secret space colony if you will, born from experiments in antigravity that society at large knows nothing about?

[waves]

.... For me, this is further evidence that not one of Andy Basiago's stories about Mars is credible and can be believed.

Basiago believers also seem to be completely ignoring that for a a couple years now he has repeatedly stated in full seriousness and delusion that he is running for president. But besides that, to me there's something very, very fishy about the Swerdlow-Basiago correlation, info stemming from their supposedly shared MK Ultra willing participation background story. I also find it very, very curious that despite Swerdlow long offering some of the most specific, deep and super-detailed explanations of everything foundational the alternative community discusses, references to his material has been nearly totally missing plus he has his own continuing string of of grandiose unfulfilled predictions. Big red flags to both of them for me, and at the very least, I suspect they are still controlled and 'working', possibly to keep things diverted and muddied in our bold and curious community that 'they' want to keep muddy.

[DNA]

.... For me, this is further evidence that not one of Andy Basiago's stories about Mars is credible and can be believed.

Basiago believers also seem to be completely ignoring that for a a couple years now he has repeatedly stated in full seriousness and delusion that he is running for president. But besides that, to me there's something very, very fishy about the Swerdlow-Basiago correlation, info stemming from their supposedly shared MK Ultra willing participation background story. I also find it very, very curious that despite Swerdlow long offering some of the most specific, deep and super-detailed explanations of everything foundational the alternative community discusses, references to his material has been nearly totally missing plus he has his own continuing string of of grandiose unfulfilled predictions. Big red flags to both of them for me, and at the very least, I suspect they are still controlled and 'working', possibly to keep things diverted and muddied in our bold and curious community that 'they' want to keep muddy.


Believer is a strong word. I'm certainly not a believer. But, I am in the midst of correlating data, and as such I have not discounted Mr. Basiago.
Also Mr. Basiago has accomplished the rare feat of not setting off my Bullsh*t detector.
My detector is one I share with everyone else, we all have one, voice tone, body language, word choice, it isn't something logic based, it all gets fed into my BS Detector and I trust the verdict, especially when it rings in high confirmation as it has on Basiago.
If Basiago is telling false hoods I do not believe he is aware of it.
I've processed too much of his story telling, and I'm telling you he is not lying.
If you will go back to Shane after he did his voice interview with Kerry I was the first person to call him out on the huge thread that opened as a result of this interview. It would be months before the rest of the forum came to this conclusion.
I was one of the earlier folks to have a problem with Simon Parks after I saw his interview.
Shane was only a liar, Simon Parks gave me psychic indigestion and physically/psychically made me ill after watching him, he was a good example of Ralph Waldo Emerson's "Who you are speaks so loudly I cannot hear what you say".
For the record Swerdlow was not a willing participant in the Montauk program as he was physically abducted from his room as a young child and forced to participate with his life being in constant peril.
I do not hear lies coming from Swerdlow.
Swerdlow definitely has issues as a result of what was done to him, and I question his motives as well at times.
Still Swerdlow has shone to be privy to some information that is still verifying itself.
Swerdlow wrote in his book "Blue Blood True Blood" that Bigfoot was a human/animal hybrid from the times of Atlantis. His book is from the year 2000 I believe, and this information was confirmed in so much as Sasquatch being a human/animal hybrid in 2012 due to the genetic mitochondrial DNA work of Melba Ketchum. Ketchum put Bigfoot's age at only 15,000 years which indeed would have put him in the predeluvian time before Atlantis was to have sank below the oceans.


So waves, as a quote unquote Basiago believer, all I'm really guilty of here is keeping an open mind and trying to aquire more data on the situation.

[waves]

I appreciate any seeker and questioner, but not more defending in the face of ignored questions. Your long post didn't even address my first point of how Basiago's running for president delusion fits into your trust of him. I understand, however, that it's very hard to keep in mind everything these guys have said over the years.


Also Mr. Basiago has accomplished the rare feat of not setting off my Bullsh*t detector.
If you've listened extensively to him, he has said even more about the president thing numerous times. What does your detector say about Andy's statement that he's running because he was 'shown' that he will be president?


If Basiago is telling false hoods I do not believe he is aware of it. I've processed too much of his story telling, and I'm telling you he is not lying.
Wouldn't you say the main quality of delusional people is that they fully believe what they're saying? There appears to be more and more evidence that black ops technology has long been masterful at creating public pawns with programmed minds that are specifically convincing to the questioning minds black ops are targeting.


If you will go back to Shane...... Simon Parks gave me psychic indigestion....
C'mon... apples and oranges. Gut feeling correctness here and there is not invincibility. I have sure learned that the hard way.


For the record Swerdlow was not a willing participant in the Montauk program as we was physically abducted from his room as a young child and forced to participate with his life being in constant peril....
For the record, that appears to also be incorrect for being half the story - they both describe their experiences as being originally not willing participants but became willing participants and even employees after their initial childhood forced participation.


I do not hear lies coming from Swerdlow.
Guess you missed his declaration that Portland and the northern US coast was going to be underwater 7 or 8 years ago 'by December' of that year. How do you justify all the other geological, militaristic and financial catastrophe predictions that passed their deadlines too?


Still Swerdlow has shone to be privy to some information that is still verifying itself.....
Yes, no one would be useful if they kept being wrong.


So waves, as a quote unquote Basiago believer, all I'm really guilty of here is keeping an open mind and trying to aquire more data on the situation.
I hope you take my response in that spirit and not as a personal attack on anything you've adopted into your belief system with no more questioning. But I rarely close my door anymore and say I 'know' anything I don't have direct knowledge of or won't ever have proof of. It's been re-kicked open too many times.

[DNA]

I appreciate any seeker and questioner, but not more defending in the face of ignored questions. Your long post didn't even address my first point of how Basiago's running for president delusion fits into your trust of him. I understand, however, that it's very hard to keep in mind everything these guys have said over the years.


It's not an issue, any one can run for president. It's a non-issue. I wouldn't hold it against you if you ran for president. As I remember there was something to the effect that he would run sometime between 2016 and 2024. He certainly wouldn't be a worse candidate than the two we have to choose from right now. :)




Wouldn't you say the main quality of delusional people is that they fully believe what they're saying? There appears to be more and more evidence that black ops technology has long been masterful at creating public pawns with programmed minds that are specifically convincing to the questioning minds black ops are targeting.
True, but delusional people are not usually capable of presenting such stories in such a grounded state. Delusional folks tend to get manic and have a pleading tone, as if "you must" believe them.
Also, delusional people tend to "want" to be believed very badly, folks who are just telling a story about something that happened to them, I find they are much more capable of just presenting the story of how it happened to them and allowing folks to believe it or not. Andrew strikes me as very calm and non-manic in his presentations.


C'mon... apples and oranges. Gut feeling correctness here and there is not invincibility. I have sure learned that the hard way.


I'm sorry, I in no way meant to give the impression that I was invincible. Please understand I am not invincible and I under no circumstances would want anyone to think I'm presenting myself as such. My wife would be very humored by this. :)



For the record, that appears to also be incorrect for being half the story - they both describe their experiences as being originally not willing participants but became willing participants and even employees after their initial childhood forced participation.


I don't suppose either of us will ever understand what it is like to be carried off from our home and forced into one of these situations.
I can't even begin to imagine the terror, and as Swerdlow describes it, I'm not kidding when I state death would be preferable.



Guess you missed his declaration that Portland and the northern US coast was going to be underwater 7 or 8 years ago 'by December' of that year. How do you justify all the other geological, militaristic and financial catastrophe predictions that passed their deadlines too?


You seem to be adding credit to Mr. Swerdlow that I forgot to give.
It is now all over youtube that it appears the Juan De Fuca fault off the coast of Oregon is the "real" earthquake danger for folks on the West Coast to be worried about, far more than the San Andreas. So Stewart apparently presented this information before the current scientific community began making folks aware of the immenent danger?
Sounds like a hit for Swerdlow.




I hope you take my response in that spirit and not as a personal attack on anything you've adopted into your belief system with no more questioning. But I rarely close my door anymore and say I 'know' anything I don't have direct knowledge of or won't ever have proof of. It's been re-kicked open too many times.



Again, I personally strife to not depend on belief.
Did this feel like a personal attack? Well I was certainly quoted quite a bit, but it's cool, I just look at this as an opportunity to expand on the topic.
It's all good as long as we are topic based.
A good day to you Waves :cat: :happy dog: :flower:

[Cidersomerset]

I just saw the thread and I have been listening to Randy Cramer ( Capt Kay )
and he talks a lot about Mars having been based there fighting indigenous
Insectoid and Reptilian locals. I have heard a few others like Capt Richards,
Andrew and Laura but have no idea about this . My gut says its BS , but
we suspect some sort of secret space programme has been running for
decades but this just does not feel right but who knows ?

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This is the first time I have heard Randy Cramer and it sounds unbelievable
though I would have to listen to more I think. It sounds very sci -fi and
I have seen this in many shows and movies , John Carter , Star ship troopers,
the 1990's Space above and beyond and the last Star Trek series featuring
the Xindi to name but a few....

Its true we contemplate that a secret space programme has been in existent
for decades and they have bases on the moon , Mars and possible other places.
But what Randy is describing does not sound right , but hey who knows ? though
we need more proof from these witness's other than recalled memories...

All this does is muddy the waters , we need more info to clear the pond so to speak

Though would make a good movie or TV series....

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Published on 17 Aug 2016
Capt. Randy Cramer is our guest and we completely cover everything from the age
of four all the way through high-school, the Marine Corps, the Moon and Mars. We
try to cover all of the details that haven't been discussed before...this is a very
complete conversation in the F2B style...and we even take a few phone calls.

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Starship Troopers (1997) English Full Movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr9MVhVKMsY

http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photo_StoryLevel/071031/071031_starship_hmed_1p.hmedium.jpg


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JohnCarter

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Space above and beyond training on Mars..

http://i.stack.imgur.com/8VJdc.jpg
Star Trek Xindi races

[Cidersomerset]

Yes like a sucker I watched another one...LOL

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Still don't know what to make of this , sounds like fantasy but he definitely
believes it and he knows the story off by heart and answers with logical
and plausible answers in relation to this fantastic tale.

But what would the secret space corp look like ? What makes no sense if
we have forces up there waging wars on various planets for decades . I
would of thought Earth would of been attacked by now. I think there
could well be a space fleet , but the accounts of there activities by the
few ex members that have come forward seems far fetched , but who knows ?

PROJECT CAMELOT RANDY CRAMER U S MARINE EARTH DEFENSE FORCE

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Published on 31 Aug 2015

Kerry mentions HALO at one point and I have seen the movie , but not played
the game and as with all the scy -fy movies and TV series some of the content
maybe used as soft disclosure as has been suspected for decades.

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http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78896-Capt.-Randy-Cramer-s-First-Newsletter&p=1091139#post1091139

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It sounds more like Star Ship Troopers or Space above and beyond.

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[Cidersomerset]

Back on topic John Lear says both Mars and the Moon have breathable
atmospheres......Caller claims to have seen two men on Mars NASA live
feed in 1979. You may of heard this before as John has been saying this
for a long time.

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[Soda]

Believer is a strong word. I'm certainly not a believer. But, I am in the midst of correlating data, and as such I have not discounted Mr. Basiago.
Also Mr. Basiago has accomplished the rare feat of not setting off my Bullsh*t detector.

Hello DNA,
I know this is somewhat off topic. And I apologize in advance for asking this here and now. But what did your BS detector say about Bill Brockbrader AKA Bill Wood (if you happened to have watched his interviews with Kerry Cassidy).
Thank you in advance.
Best,
Weezer

[DNA]

Hello DNA,
I know this is somewhat off topic. And I apologize in advance for asking this here and now. But what did your BS detector say about Bill Brockbrader AKA Bill Wood (if you happened to have watched his interviews with Kerry Cassidy).
Thank you in advance.
Best,
Weezer


I'm definitely no expert Weezer, but for what it's worth my BS detector was ringing loud not to trust Bill Brockbader/Bill Wood. His voice and mannerisms, to me at least gave me the impression he was lying and making things up.
Avalon as a whole did not believe Brockbader from what I remember when the video came out. The Avalon vibe at the time if I remember correctly was of distrust of the man.




My gut says its BS (Regarding Randy Kramer) , but
we suspect some sort of secret space programme has been running for
decades but this just does not feel right but who knows ?


Hi Cider
You amaze me with your Newspaper Quality posts. I really like the job you did using movies and TV show science fictions to help illustrate the Randy Kramer story.
Alas, I must tell you Cider, my gut says BS as well when it comes to Randy Kramer.
I give your gut credit Cider, you have involved your self with this material for a long time. As such, your unconscious mind has so much to say when it comes to putting this stuff together on a simply intuitive level.
I wish we could get Mark Richards on video so I could try and get a read off of him.
But, even without that, Mark Richards has been coming out with information regarding the secret space program since 2005 via his wife.
I lean towards giving Richards the benefit of the doubt, mostly because of how long his information has been out.


Bottom line we ALL want another Phil Schnieder to come out, and we all pretty much agree that there is a secret space program, so it makes sense that we would want someone to come forward and be our Phil Schnieder of the Secret Space Program.
I feel like Magic Johnson talking about Larry Bird at Larry Bird's retirement ceremony when I say THERE WILL NEVER BE ANOTHER PHIL SCHNIEDER.
John Lear alternates between giving somewhat sensible information and sounding like the most cracked of UFO crack pots.
But,,,,,that being said, John Lear stated something that has stuck with me and I find myself referring to it when Randy Kramers pop up.
John Lear stated that the last of the REAL whistle blowers came out 88' 89' and the early nineties.
As far as he is concerned, the secret government or whatever you want to call it has redoubled it's efforts in clamping down on would be whistle blowers, and I believe this to be true.
So much of the Whistle Blower material I consider to be true that has come out in the last thirty years has hinted at a dark practice the secret government has taken to practicing.
In the Conner O'Ryan interview done by Wendelle Stevens in 1992, we are told by Conner O'Ryan that he was given an aggressive brain tumor a month before he was scheduled to retire from his position as security for S4/Area51. I've come to the conclusion that this is common practice now, and this has had to of started making it's way around the water coolers in such facilities so much so that I'm thinking no one dare retires anymore.
Conner O'Ryan also stated that he was to submit to being hypnotized once a month as well.
The Conner O'Ryan interview is one of the absolute best I've ever heard, especially how it is included in the S4 Informers Video done by Wendelle Stevens.
So much information about S4 is given that puts O'Ryans testimony in proper context.


This is a six hour masterpiece.
I suggest keeping a pad of paper and taking notes for there are more rabbit holes to explore if you jot done names and things you are not familiar with for later study.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TfAWjlTQPs
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[DNA]

Back on topic John Lear says both Mars and the Moon have breathable
atmospheres......Caller claims to have seen two men on Mars NASA live
feed in 1979. You may of heard this before as John has been saying this
for a long time.

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I think this is one of the issues folks have with Andrew Basagio, that he states Mars has a difficult to breath harsh atmosphere, but that it is in fact breathable.
I think Swerdlow has stated this as well, but I'm not 100%.
I think John Lear stating this helps the conversation.
I wish I knew where Lear got this information from.
Thanks Cider. :)

[Foxie Loxie]

I KNOW this is going to be great! Thanks! :waving:

[3(C)+me]

Very interesting discussion guys.

I did listen to the Randy Cramer interview on FTB, interesting, not sure what to think, he needs to come forward with some of his military papers proving he is what he says he is, get his bosses to put it out there. I will not hold my breath.
I want to believe him but at this point I don't.

But something is going on with Mars. NASA and other scientist's slowing putting out things about Mars has water, Mars had a heavy atmosphere once that supported life, Mars has indications of rivers on the surface. Slowly telling us about Mars and it once had life. I remember a while back some researcher on CTC talked about the reason Mars lost it's atmosphere was due to a big war that took it out. He was convinced.

What does my Gut say as DNA puts it, as of right now, that something is going on with Mars but what that is, it is so big they can't just come out and say it so I am thinking it is going to shock most people and the put the elite in a bad place because they will be implicated once again, for the liars and cheaters we already know them to be.

It's like disclosure, they can't do it because it is going to open up a can of worms and most people are mad as hell already.
"They" are between a rock and a hard place.


Now I am going to go back and listen to the Rush interview just to muddy the waters in my head just a little more.

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks mate you are doing a grand job yourself in this truth seeking minefield....

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John Lear alternates between giving somewhat sensible information and
sounding like the most cracked of UFO crack pots.

That cracked me up as when I first found Camelot back in 2005/6. I watched
the Mr X vid , and several others going further down the rabbit hole.
Then Bill and Kerry interviewed John and as the interview was progressing
I started shaking my head and saying WTF , this is getting unbelievable.
He is very charismatic and it was the first time I had come across him as
with many of the Camelot vids. I had only just got access to the web and
all my previous alternate knowledge was mainly thru documentaries and
the odd book. Still although some of Johns answers are still crackpot in
between there are many jems and truths , he has researched over the
decades power to him.....We salute you.

https://kendoc911.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/johnlear2.jpg

[DNA]

I'm with you Cider in regards to having a fondness for Mr.Lear.
My first exposure to Lear was the summer of 2005, I was listening to Coast to Coast and they had a night where they replayed an older interview Art Bell did with John Lear, in it was John's famous disclosure caveat.
I was hooked for quite a while and felt for a long time that he could do no wrong.
For years I was a mainstay trying to absorb everything from his website that I could. http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/menu.html

John's recent interviews have led me to wonder if I'm falling so far behind that he is sounding rather nuts now, or have the powers that be gotten a hold of him and he is now playing the part of the cracked old man in order to comply with some unseen order giver.

We will probably never know, but his disclosure interview is pure gold.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIww04s4IEA

[Cidersomerset]

My first exposure to Lear was the summer of 2005, I was listening to
Coast to Coast and they had a night where they replayed an older interview Art Bell
did with John Lear, in it was John's famous disclosure caveat

I was going to post that before I settled on the picture....LOL

I'm listening to it again now and this is John at his best,explaining the UFO/ET
cover up in a nut shell. As Ripley would say " Believe it or not ".....

Also his 9/11 pilot material opened my eyes back then.

I don't want to go to off topic but John connects a lot of dots like David Icke ....

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Published on 27 Mar 2012
John Lear was a captain for a major US Airline and has flown over 160 different
types of aircraft in over 50 different countries.He holds 17 world speed records in
the Lear Jet and is the only pilot ever to hold every airline certificate issued by the
Federal Aviation Administration.John Lear has flown missions worldwide for the CIA
and other government agencies.He is the son of William P. Lear, designer of the
Lear Jet and founder of Lear Siegler Corporation.

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Published on 11 Sep 2013

9/11 Affidavit By John Lear, Son Of Learjet Inventor

I am 65 years of age, a retired airline captain and former CIA pilot with over
19,000 hours of flight time, over 11,000 of which are in command of 3 or 4 engine
jet transports, have flown over 100 different types of aircraft in 60 different
countries around the world. I retired in 2001 after 40 years of flying....
http://www.activistpost.com/2012/03/9...

A former CIA and civilian pilot has sworn an affidavit, stating that no planes flew
into the Twin Towers as it would have been physically impossible.
http://neonnettle.com/news/211-ex-cia...

The Holographic Projector
http://www.historycommons.org/timelin...

The holographic projector displays a three-dimensional visual image in a desired
location, removed from the display generator. The projector can be used for
psychological operations and strategic perception management. It is also useful for
optical deception and cloaking, providing a momentary distraction when engaging
an unsophisticated adversary.
http://www.au.af.mil/au/2025/volume4/...

LASERS IN SPACE : TECHNOLOGICAL OPTIONS FOR ENHANCING US MILITARY
CAPABILITIES by Mark E. Rogers, Lieutenant Colonel, USAF
November 1997
Occasional Paper No. 2
Center for Strategy and Technology, Air War College
Maxwell Air Force Base, Alabama

"Without question, space-based lasers could be fielded in 10 to 20 years that can
destroy targets in space as well as on or near the earth's surface. The challenges
involve engineering and cost, rather than the fundamental laws of physics."

Spacecast 2020 includes holographic projection from space, planetary defense
weapons, and weather modification systems that would involve lasers in space in
ways or at power levels that stagger the imagination.

Holographic Projector
Operational Concept. This concept, which would fall into the force enhancement
mission area, was considered in the Spacecast 2020 study, and as a truly novel
idea provides evidence that the strategic studies did consider "out of the box"
ideas. However, the concept ignores the fundamental physics of generating
holograms.

The concept is a "system that could project holograms from space onto the ground,
in the sky, or on the ocean anywhere in the theater of conflict for special operations
deception missions. This system would be composed of either orbiting holographic
projectors or relay satellites that would pass data and instructions to a remotely
piloted vehicle or aircraft that would then generate and project the holographic
image." The apparent intention is to generate three-dimensional images of
sufficient quality to make the observer believe an actual object is being seen.

There have even been suggestions by anonymous sources that these holographic
images could be made to produce speech as well, which is theoretically possible
using the photo-acoustic effect in air. This effect has been proposed by Oak Ridge
National Laboratory for a laser-based emergency broadcast system.

http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/progr...

This technology was reported in the media before 9/11 pertaining to military
psychological operations (PSYOPS).

Washington Post
"When Seeing and Hearing Isn't Believing"
By William M. Arkin
February 1, 1999

[Rich]

I also find it interesting that Swerdlow states that according to the Montauk Program every point in space time has a specific vibration that is unique to that place in time, making it possible to travel to those coordinates by recreating the energy and or vibration of that place and time.


That's what Bashar explains in some of his speeches and this is how they "travel".

[3(C)+me]

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Satellite images of Mars reveal fascinating ‘structures’ buried beneath the surface.

Not long ago, scientists discovered that there is liquid water flowing on the surface of Mars. Researchers have also found traces of giant oceans, rivers, and lakes that covered most of the Martian surface.

Experts have also discovered faint traces of a once mighty atmosphere that encircled the red planet in the distant past.

Recently, researchers have discovered that in the distant past, Mars had a ‘human’ breathable atmosphere.

Using the ChemCam instrument aboard Curiosity, scientists at the Los Alamos National Laboratory have discovered high levels of manganese oxides in cracks filled with minerals present in some Martian rocks of the Kimberley region in the Gale crater.

The presence of this chemical suggests that in the past there were sufficient levels of oxygen in the atmosphere of Mars, which would have made the planet “breathable” for humans.

As you can see, every discovery points to the possibility that life as we know it may have developed on Mars in the distant past.

The question remains how much life on Mars may have developed.


http://www.ancient-code.com/satellite-images-mars-reveal-fascinating-structures-buried-beneath-surface/

[DNA]

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I just wanted to voice a correlation I was making in my mind today. Nikola Tesla stated many times that he was in contact with intelligent beings from Mars. What is worth noting is Tesla's free energy device. Tesla's free energy tower was not some coal powered energy station charging the air so wireless energy could be made free to everyone. NO. Tesla's free energy was far more ingenious than that.
Tesla's tower was dependent on using ground water combined with the minerals in the area to create "free" energy.
And then transmitting this "energy" wirelessly to be free power for all.
What is amazing about this, is how this seems to correlate with the pyramids at Giza, especially the great pyramid.
There is quite a bit of information linking the energy manufacturing methods used by Tesla's Tower and the Great Pyramid of Giza.
We also know that the Cydonia complex on Mars seems to contain the same pyramid complex we find here on earth at Giza.
Coincidence?
I do not think so.
It seems to be that beings from Mars were actually in contact with Nikkola Tesla and giving him the same formula for free power that was used in the construction of the pyramids at Giza, and we can surmise the same formula for creating free energy in the pyramid complex in Cydonia.
I believe intelligent beings still live on Mars, if not on the surface than in underground cities below the surface.
This specific episode of THE PYRAMID CODE outlines the power plant theory in so how it relates to the Pyramids at Giza.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGSPPdvJKv8&list=PLB7HNYb5uvbI59jpyQFzVfOlO5p5F1SOI


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[Foxie Loxie]

I would tend to agree with you, DNA, from all I have learned so far about Tesla. What is interesting to me is that when he was in CO he put light bulbs in the ground & they all did light up. Do you know if this a true story? If is is true that water was flowing under the great pyramid, do you think that had something to do with harnessing the power? I have enjoyed so much learning all I can! :sherlock:

[mojo]

pretty solid evidence when you have a total right angle wall... how much more proof is needed?

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