Our Solar System is Moving into a Potentially Dangerous Interstellar Energy Cloud

[Ines]

Owesome video. Everything happening in our planet, makes sense. Anyway, I think the Homo Sapiens Species is going to make it big in the interstellar Community, once fully awaken.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUbr64eqt2w

[KiwiElf]

RUbr64eqt2w

[Bill Ryan]

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This was first brought to larger awareness in 2010 by Dr. Alexei Dmitriev, a respected Russian physicist, after this December 2009 paper in Nature:

http://nature.com/nature/journal/v462/n7276/full/nature08567.html

The first public-consumption article about this was written for the Huffington Post in March 2010 by researcher and author Larry Joseph.

http://huffingtonpost.com/lawrence-e-joseph/passing-into-the-energy-c_b_405086.html

The whole thing has been seized on by 'Ascensionists' of all kinds, but this appears to be a probably real astrophysical phenomenon.

[Foxie Loxie]

Thanks KiwiElf....a great video! Have been wanting to ask you about the volcanic changes in NZ. What are they saying there?

[KiwiElf]

Thanks KiwiElf....a great video! Have been wanting to ask you about the volcanic changes in NZ. What are they saying there?

Hi Foxi,

Here is the latest (which is a bit worrying as it's only 50 km approx Sth East of where I live), and these latest revelations about the increasing magma build-up would indicate they're connected.

Mt Ruapehu remains at Level 2 which means increased volcanic activity, White Island has dropped back to Level 1. (Both were at 0 a couple of months back). We've had a few large jolts near Whakatane, Christchurch & Wellington but nothing too scary (yet) ;)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/04/the-new-zealand-town-with-a-volcano-growing-underneath-it

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/305592/magma-buildup-blamed-for-quakes

Our local reporting site is:

http://www.geonet.org.nz/

[araucaria]

The effect of a cloud on the solar system in terms of stormy space weather is one way of looking at this situation. Another is astrology. Strangely, I can’t seem to find out who came to define the relatively recently discovered Pluto’s influence, or how, but it is definitely largely correct. Someone will need to define what effect a diffuse cloud would have on us. Clearly the basics of transits and aspects would no longer apply in quite the same way; they would have to be calculated as if there were a planet at a fixed point in the direction that the sun is heading. But if particles are actually entering the solar system and even hitting the Earth, then that would give a whole new meaning to the idea of conjunction. Mars for instance can cause havoc in human behaviour as it is, but imagine what it would be like if such an influence were actually hitting all of us, right in the face, all of the time. You would expect something like the collective psychosis and other increasingly erratic behaviour we are seeing in the world to occur as the phenomenon peaked (or maybe even before), and something like what is termed ascension to occur on emerging from the cloud. The question might then be, How close are we to emerging or at least beginning to pull clear from this cloud, because clearly we cannot take very much more? Ascensionists simply put an optimistic slant on this, saying we are very close. That may or may not be the case; if it isn’t, it means that simply to survive, we are going to have to make great efforts to simulate the effects of ascension before it ever happens, because otherwise we are never going to make it. In other words, ascension may be an exalted state that comes naturally and effortlessly in certain galactic circumstances, but until we are there we need to move actively in that direction merely to maintain the status quo.

[ghostrider]

As we are between spiral arms, the rays of the central sun of the milky way hit us unobstructed , and they are the most revolutionary, and affect everything, speeding up knowledge, and will continue until the year 2028 ... this is information given by the plejaren in 1975 at a face to face contact, contact report#9 semjase speaking with edward ... you can visit the future of mankind website and read for yourself...

[Foxie Loxie]

Thanks Kiwi for the information. Are you the only NZ on the Forum? I remember you were kind enough to greet me when I was a newcomer & had no idea what this was all about! Thanks!

[Snoweagle]

Herewith is the abstract of the article Bill cites as published in the Nature journal 2009

Nature 462, 1036-1038 (24 December 2009) | doi:10.1038/nature08567; Received 18 May 2009; Accepted 6 October 2009

A strong, highly-tilted interstellar magnetic field near the Solar System

M. Opher1, F. Alouani Bibi1, G. Toth2, J. D. Richardson3, V. V. Izmodenov4 & T. I. Gombosi2

George Mason University, 4400 University Drive, Fairfax, Virginia 22030, USA
Center for Space Environment Modeling, University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109, USA
Kavli Institute for Astrophysics and Space Research, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, 37-655, 77 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge, Massachusetts 02139, USA
Lomonosov Moscow State University, Space Research Institute (IKI) and Institute for Problems in Mechanics, Russian Academy of Science, 84/32 Profsoyuznaya Street, Moscow 117997, Russia

Correspondence to: M. Opher1 Correspondence and requests for materials should be addressed to M.O. (Email: mopher@gmu.edu).

Abstract

Magnetic fields play an important (sometimes dominant) role in the evolution of gas clouds in the Galaxy, but the strength and orientation of the field in the interstellar medium near the heliosphere has been poorly constrained. Previous estimates of the field strength range from 1.8–2.5 μG and the field was thought to be parallel to the Galactic plane1 or inclined by 38–60° (ref. 2) or 60–90° (ref. 3) to this plane. These estimates relied either on indirect observational inferences or modelling in which the interstellar neutral hydrogen was not taken into account. Here we report measurements of the deflection of the solar wind plasma flows in the heliosheath4 to determine the magnetic field strength and orientation in the interstellar medium. We find that the field strength in the local interstellar medium is 3.7–5.5 μG. The field is tilted ~20–30° from the interstellar medium flow direction (resulting from the peculiar motion of the Sun in the Galaxy) and is at an angle of about 30° from the Galactic plane. We conclude that the interstellar medium field is turbulent or has a distortion in the solar vicinity.
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I love the opening sentence:-)
"Magnetic fields play an important (sometimes dominant) role in the evolution of gas clouds in the Galaxy . . . "
Personally I would change the "gas clouds" to "stuff" as it would cover a multitude of appropriate elements.

Regarding the topic itself, I do not think we have anything to worry about as if a system wide catastrophe did occur, as it had in the past, we would powerless to counter the effects.

[KiwiElf]

Thanks Kiwi for the information. Are you the only NZ on the Forum? I remember you were kind enough to greet me when I was a newcomer & had no idea what this was all about! Thanks!

Thanks Foxie and I appreciate your concerns. As far as I know, there are several other Kiwi's on Avalon (am still trying to figure "what it's all about" myself ;) :)

[Ines]

This article in the HUFFPOST HEALTHY LIVING was published in 03/18/2010... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lawrence-e-joseph/passing-into-the-energy-c_b_405086.html

"Apocalypse 2012 (the book) also reported extensively on evidence that the Earth’s protective magnetic shield is showing signs of realignment and deterioration, a hypothesis emphatically validated in December, 2008, THEMIS, a squadron of five NASA research satellites unexpectedly flew through a giant, pole-to-equator breach in our planet’s magnetic field. The astrophysicists attached to the THEMIS project were utterly astonished by the e data, with David Sibeck, the project leader, going so far as to declare that “it was as though the Sun rose in the west.” The shields are down, Scotty, and the Sun is going to begin pummeling us big time in late 2012 or early 2013.

Our space neighborhood is changing, and not for the better. We need to take precautions to defend our home planet, our way of life, starting right now. "

So... it is June 2016 and so far we still here. What is going on ? WHY are we still here ? by now, we were supposed to be extint. So far we have notice volcanic activity, climate changes and some Ocean activity due to earthquakes, and the "electric grid" still working. Does this mean all of that "advertisements" of DANGER for our Solar System...WERE ALSO...MORE LIES to keep people in FEAR ?... and WHO is/are responsible for all of this ? Is the Scientific Community part of this "charade"...? WE deserve to know the TRUTH, what is going on...?
:sun:

[ghostrider]

We will remain here, it will take 760 more years before we become rational thinking human beings. .. no one is coming to save us, we are responsible for our lives, our world, and our future. .. when we grow up spiritually, our big brothers will make themselves known, help us with medical technology and technology to restore our planet to a healthy state of being...

[StandingWave]

This thread may bear bumping since it gives more background as to what is going on: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1239-Boeing-WhistleBower-and-My-Information&p=10688&viewfull=1#post10688

[Builder]

As we are between spiral arms, the rays of the central sun of the milky way hit us unobstructed

You may want to read up on what Astronomy (those guys looking at the stars) have found out about the Milky Way so far. At the center there is probably a super massive black hole. We can't see it directly because there is a lot of dust between it and us. So no direct rays.

[Bill Ryan]

As we are between spiral arms, the rays of the central sun of the milky way hit us unobstructed

You may want to read up on what Astronomy (those guys looking at the stars) have found out about the Milky Way so far. At the center there is probably a super massive black hole. We can't see it directly because there is a lot of dust between it and us. So no direct rays.

Yes, that's correct. The so-called 'central sun' is New Age mythology.

[ghostrider]

The plejaren say there is a central sun in the milky way galaxy and even give exact data about its size and distance from earth... read contact report#9 the futureofmankind.uk ... and also theyfly.com ...

[Ines]

Sickscent... posted a lot of information on the subject of the Interstellar Energy Cloud, from back in 2010. It is very important because we can read about the history data since Scientist first discover this information through Voyager 1 and 2. I spent two hours ( 3 sittings) reading and I could not stop, it was very exciting. :-D
For those interested, I warn you to be patient, very patient and do it at your own pace... here is the thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1239-Boeing-WhistleBower-and-My-Information/page3

[DNA]

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This was first brought to larger awareness in 2010 by Dr. Alexei Dmitriev, a respected Russian physicist, after this December 2009 paper in Nature:

http://nature.com/nature/journal/v462/n7276/full/nature08567.html

The first public-consumption article about this was written for the Huffington Post in March 2010 by researcher and author Larry Joseph.

http://huffingtonpost.com/lawrence-e-joseph/passing-into-the-energy-c_b_405086.html

The whole thing has been seized on by 'Ascensionists' of all kinds, but this appears to be a probably real astrophysical phenomenon.


So you were mentioning some information from Dan Burisch regarding Timeline 1, Variant 83 on another thread. You gave the link for here http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html


In this information, you mention technology that the general public is not aware of such as StarGates, project looking glass, and some others. The major thrust was that the earth's solar system was about to move through a more energetic part of the galaxy. And as this happened, these exotic technologies were going to be activated by this new energy in a manner that would be disastrous for the planet, causing a major pole shift. Also it was mentioned that Hillary was elected president at this time of 2008.
With Hillary getting the possible nod now as president, and our now moving through a predicted high energy area of the galaxy, is this timeline looking like it may have looped back around?

[Bill Ryan]

So you were mentioning some information from Dan Burisch regarding Timeline 1, Variant 83 on another thread. You gave the link for here http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html. (http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html)
[ ... ]
With Hillary getting the possible nod now as president, and our now moving through a predicted high energy area of the galaxy, is this timeline looking like it may have looped back around?

Yes, I'm a little concerned that the [alternative, never-happened] Nov 2008 events might somehow now be loop-mapped on to Nov 2016. If so, all hell (literally) might break loose.

Dan Burisch said the timeline problems in the future humans' history (round about now, or a few years before now) were because of energies within the solar system that were catastrophically activated by the Looking Glass/ Stargate devices, which is why they were all shut down.

He insisted that that had happened. He never referred to energies within the galaxy, only within the solar system. But he was always the first one to point out to us that he wasn't a physicist, or an astrophysicist.

All this is impossible to verify, of course, and it's a super-wild story that many have ridiculed. It's like the anti-elephant powder that you sprinkle in your bedroom. Hey, no elephants at night, so it must be working. :)

All I can say is that I knew Dan pretty well, and he was always sincere, intelligent, heart-centered, articulate, witty, caring, and a totally delightful person to be with 100% of the time. So I always listened carefully. He was never knowingly lying... I'm certain of that.

[Ines]

TEXT of the VIDEO: " The term 'Electric Universe' has been used before, but never in the same broad, holistic sense. Australian Physicist, Wal Thornhill, is regarded as the founder of this Electric Universe. In July 2013 he was awarded the prestigious Sagnac award for lifetime achievement at the 20th annual conference of the Natural Philosophy Alliance.

Previoulsy, Charles Bruce used the term in 1960 in: "An All-Electric Universe". Electrical Review, 162, pp. 1070-1075, 23 Dec. 1960.

Also, in 1901, in another context, George Woodward Warder said: " There is no loss of energy, as well as no loss of atoms, in this vast Electric Universe. The nebular hypothesis and gravitation explain nothing"

As The Electric Universe grows ever more popular we are likely to see the terms bandied around more loosely, but let's hope that the true pioneers receive the credit they deserve. "


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poaYnOl-7Q8

My comment: WHY are those "discreepancies" between Scientists ? WHY is always "Official" Science who wants to keep the truth from the public ? WHAT is it that "they" try so hard to hide from us, keeping knowledge to be taught in schools and Universities ?

[Savannah]

Bill you should post this on the Mandella Effect thread, it explains further your post there.

[Bill Ryan]

Bill you should post this* on the Mandela Effect thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91282-The-Mandela-Effect.-Is-this-CERN-Project-Pegasus-The-Montauk-Project-The-Philadelphia-Experiment), it explains further your post there.

Yes, thanks... I'll put something together. I do have to say (but not here on this thread! :bigsmile: ) that I do think there may be something to the Mandela Effect phenomenon.

Some of the YouTube commenters seem not to understand very well how a timeline jump would actually work (and they can be forgiven for that) — but I do think there may be something highly strange happening that isn't just a matter of people's poor memory or logic. We need to go pretty slowly and carefully with that kind of thing... it's a real hall of mirrors.

* My post Savannah was referencing was this one:





So you were mentioning some information from Dan Burisch regarding Timeline 1, Variant 83 on another thread. You gave the link for here http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html. (http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html)
[ ... ]
With Hillary getting the possible nod now as president, and our now moving through a predicted high energy area of the galaxy, is this timeline looking like it may have looped back around?

Yes, I'm a little concerned that the [alternative, never-happened] Nov 2008 events might somehow now be loop-mapped on to Nov 2016. If so, all hell (literally) might break loose.

Dan Burisch said the timeline problems in the future humans' history (round about now, or a few years before now) were because of energies within the solar system that were catastrophically activated by the Looking Glass/ Stargate devices, which is why they were all shut down.

He insisted that that had happened. He never referred to energies within the galaxy, only within the solar system. But he was always the first one to point out to us that he wasn't a physicist, or an astrophysicist.

All this is impossible to verify, of course, and it's a super-wild story that many have ridiculed. It's like the anti-elephant powder that you sprinkle in your bedroom. Hey, no elephants at night, so it must be working. :)

All I can say is that I knew Dan pretty well, and he was always sincere, intelligent, heart-centered, articulate, witty, caring, and a totally delightful person to be with 100% of the time. So I always listened carefully. He was never knowingly lying... I'm certain of that.


:focus:

[Bill Ryan]

Sickscent... posted a lot of information on the subject of the Interstellar Energy Cloud, from back in 2010. It is very important because we can read about the history data since Scientist first discover this information through Voyager 1 and 2. I spent two hours ( 3 sittings) reading and I could not stop, it was very exciting. :-D
For those interested, I warn you to be patient, very patient and do it at your own pace... here is the thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1239-Boeing-WhistleBower-and-My-Information/page3

With some trepidation :bigsmile:, I'm bumping Ines' post above, referencing this thread from 2010. The information starts here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1239-Boeing-Whistleblower-and-My-Information&p=12020&viewfull=1#post12020

Now, some needed caveats and notes.



There's a lot of stuff there. The formatting calls for some patience and focus to figure it all out and follow it all.



Some of this is good, published mainstream science. Some of it is not (e.g. quoted sections of channeled information, etc).



There seemed at the time quite some valid reason to suspect dramatic solar activity (and instability) soon after 2010. This is another story to be told, but I received reliable information of exactly the same thing. See this Camelot page, which I'm 100% certain was real and genuine:
Whistleblower testimony: An electrical engineer on 2012-2013
http://projectcamelot.org/electrical_engineer.html



As we know, no such event happened... and now we're heading into a solar minimum. I just say that to acknowledge the obvious.

[Ines]

So you were mentioning some information from Dan Burisch regarding Timeline 1, Variant 83 on another thread. You gave the link for here http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html. (http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html)
[ ... ]
With Hillary getting the possible nod now as president, and our now moving through a predicted high energy area of the galaxy, is this timeline looking like it may have looped back around?

Yes, I'm a little concerned that the [alternative, never-happened] Nov 2008 events might somehow now be loop-mapped on to Nov 2016. If so, all hell (literally) might break loose.

Dan Burisch said the timeline problems in the future humans' history (round about now, or a few years before now) were because of energies within the solar system that were catastrophically activated by the Looking Glass/ Stargate devices, which is why they were all shut down.

He insisted that that had happened. He never referred to energies within the galaxy, only within the solar system. But he was always the first one to point out to us that he wasn't a physicist, or an astrophysicist.

All this is impossible to verify, of course, and it's a super-wild story that many have ridiculed. It's like the anti-elephant powder that you sprinkle in your bedroom. Hey, no elephants at night, so it must be working. :)

All I can say is that I knew Dan pretty well, and he was always sincere, intelligent, heart-centered, articulate, witty, caring, and a totally delightful person to be with 100% of the time. So I always listened carefully. He was never knowingly lying... I'm certain of that.

I understand about changing Timelines from 2 to 1 variable 83 to keep us from catastrophe and that they couldn´t not see the future anymore, beyond 2012. So my question is: is no body talking even of some "possibilities" ? I have looked and haven´t found anything. I think Dan Burisch is an honest person and he does not have any reaso to lie, have seen his many interviews and haven´t heard contradictions in what he exposed so far.

[Bill Ryan]

I understand about changing Timelines from 2 to 1 variable 83 to keep us from catastrophe and that they couldn´t not see the future anymore, beyond 2012. So my question is: is no body talking even of some "possibilities" ? I have looked and haven´t found anything. I think Dan Burisch is an honest person and he does not have any reaso to lie, have seen his many interviews and haven´t heard contradictions in what he exposed so far.

I'd need to look and check, but I'm pretty sure it was David Wilcock who said that they couldn't see beyond 2012 — in the Montauk Project.

Regarding T1 and T2, ('T2' was the catastrophic timeline), I think Dan would tell us now, if he could, that it was no longer known which variant we were on. Certainly not v83, unless it's all in a loop and we're returning to it somehow.

Dan was totally sincere and honest, but he'd been messed with, for sure, and (at least in the end) was very controlled. There were certainly some things he said, and believed, that weren't accurate.

[ThePythonicCow]

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TEXT of the VIDEO: " The term 'Electric Universe' has been used before, but never in the same broad, holistic sense. Australian Physicist, Wal Thornhill, is regarded as the founder of this Electric Universe. In July 2013 he was awarded the prestigious Sagnac award for lifetime achievement at the 20th annual conference of the Natural Philosophy Alliance.
Here is Wal Thornhill's speech at this conference. It's a quite listenable, clear and compelling of the Electric Universe work, its theory, people and history.

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The Youtube description provides more details:



At the 20th Annual Conference of the Natural Philosophy Alliance (NPA20), held July 2013 in College Park, Maryland USA, Australian physicist Wal Thornhill recounted his personal odyssey, starting with inspiration from Immanuel Velikovsky and culminating in an interdisciplinary perspective on the grand view of the Electric Universe Model of Cosmology.

One of the highlights at NPA20 was the presentation of the distinguished Sagnac Award to Wal Thornhill for his lifelong contribution to science.

Wal Thornhill (1942–2023) was the co-founder of The Thunderbolts Project and its Chief Science Advisor. His philosophical approach is that we must first understand human nature to understand the cosmos. The Electric Universe Model is the only science that has grown from diverse disciplines of understanding, offering hope and inspiration for a better future.
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