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giovonni
22nd June 2016, 23:44
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Michael Tsarion The War Of The Gods Lemuria Vs Atlantis

Atlantis Revisited

"According to occult scholar and Belfast-born Michael Tsarion, the legendary Atlantis and Lemuria, the destruction of planet Maldek or Lucifer(Tiamat), the genetic manipulation of humans, and the great War of the Gods, occurred much more recently than most sources would have you believe.

Michael has pieced together important knowledge on the subject of Atlantis through his study of ancient Irish and Keltic writings, the works of Zechariah Sitchin, Immanuel Velikovsky, Plato, Ignatius Donnelly, and most other important authors on the subject. Some of his conclusions are astounding and revolutionary.

Perhaps most astounding is the time frame he puts on those epochal Earth events which have shaped us into the species we are today. Unlike most who date Atlantis and Lemuria on Earth as having begun hundreds of thousands or millions of years ago, Tsarion claims these two civilizations began here only some 30 to 50 thouand years ago! Also, most writings put Lemuria as being older than or giving birth to Atlantis when it's actually the other way around. Also there is more of a West to East migration of civilization than the other way around. The rivalry between Atlantis and its offspring Lemuria, leads to the Great War of the Gods which Tsarion dates at about 13,500 years ago, and he says there were no such things as Ice Ages before that!

It all begins with a band of rebel or renegade Atlanteans, Nephilim, Annunakki, fallen angels (all the same thing) being chased or pursued across the galaxy by their own kind and ending up in our part of the galaxy or solar system. Once here, they set up a decoy or false base on the planet Tiamat which is located between what is now Mars and Jupiter to try and lose their pursuers. Tiamat, also known as Maldek, Phaeton, Lucifer, and many other names was a huge planet some fifteen times the diameter of our present Earth and covered entirely by water. The Sun's reflection on this ocean planet caused it to shine brightly like a second sun, and like a brilliant star from afar. The pursuers locate the base on Tiamat and destroy this huge planet with their powerful beam weapons while the renegades go to our Earth and set up bases there, many underground or in its interior.

The destruction of Tiamat some 50 thousand years ago caused incredible chaos and disruption across the entire solar system from the raziing and cratering of nearby planets to the orbital or axial displacements of as far away planets as Uranus. Earth and Mars were especially affected, the first acquiring much of Tiamat's water and the latter losing most of its own. Much of the debris of Tiamat settled into what are now known as the asteroid belts whearas other parts of it became the meteors and comets and stray moons and small planets(dwarfs or plutoids?) of our solar system.

According to Tsarion, Earth had very little water before the Tiamat catastrophe, but the Flood waters of Tiamat changed all that so that it was now covered with more water than land. Many of the insects, fishes, and land animals we now have were also washed down on us in Fort-like fashion by the fragments of Tiamat. Also, the fragments that bombarded the Earth caused many of its depressions, craters, and current cracks or faultlines, and forced most of the Atlantean renegades and our own primitive native inhabitants to flee in caves, mountains, and the Earth's interior. The native inhabitants of Earth at this time were what anthropologists now refer to as the Neanderthals, who later became the Cromagnons or Lemurians, and then Adamic or modern man through Atlantean genetic manipulation.

Probably due to the destabilization of our solar system caused by Tiamat's destruction, and perhaps also due to time restraints, the pursuers were pressed to return to their home world(s), but before they did so, they scanned the planets for signs of the renegades whom they discovered on Earth. Not having the time to search them out or unwilling to destroy another planet, they set up an etheric barrier or gate around our Earth so that their rebel brethen could not escape from it. They were in effect(and unbeknownst to them) quarantined from the rest of the solar system. The pursuers set our current Moon as the loadstone or conductor for this invisible etheric gate or barrier around our planet, and it is still there to this day.

After the turmoil of our solar system settled many years later and the Earth regained some sense of normalcy, the Atlantean renegades resurfaced from their underground lairs and began regrouping and reconstructing their civilization as best they could. They were located on the continent of Appalachia which stretched from what is now Greenland to northernmost Europe to the Siberian peninsula. Their city or settlement was named Atlantis after their king Atlan and the ocean below them was called the Atlantic. They were few in number(50 to 200) however and the task of rebuilding was enormous and laborious and this is where Sitchin's story parallels where they came up with the idea of using primate man as their muscle. The Atlanteans were humanoid, attractive, and extremely intelligent, but rather heartless and cruel or the opposite of primate man. In order for primate man to be of any real use to them they had to modify him genetically and give him intelligence, which they did, and Neanderthal man became Cromagnon man.

The Cromagnons or Sons of the Serpents went along with their parent's directives for awhile building great cities and monuments, including the pyramids, but eventually they tired under their lordly Atlans and rebelled and flew away in spaceraft to their newfound continent or home which they called Lemuria. The Lemurians grew large in number and lived very productive and peaceful lives, with their human or emotional half leading the way. It was basically a matriarchal society that lived in harmony with Earth forces rather than shape them for their own selfish exploits. They were into mysticism and spirituality and the healing arts. The works of James Churchward describes them accurately.

Their first human experiment gone awry, the Atlanteans decided to create another human servant, this time a more dumbed down version, that would more easily do their bidding. Not only would they have lower mental capacity or intellect, but they would divide him into male and female(the Lemurians were apparently bisexual or hermaphrodite). He would also be much smaller and therefore more manageable physically. Thus were born the Adams and Eves, two halves or extremes of the other which produced a continual longing for wholeness or completion. At first they could not reproduce but were eventually given reproductive capacity.

The godly Lemurians or first sons of the serpents monitored the creation of the new humans in Eden or Atantis, and feeling a bond for them, sent emissaries or spies there to try and bring them over to Lemuria. The Adams, who were closer biologically to their patriarchal Atlans would not comply, but they succeeded through the Eves or females (the story of the Serpent tempting Eve) who had more of the Lemurian DNA, angering the Atlanteans and precipitating a war between the two. This led to the Great War of the Gods(between Atlantis and Lemuria), which was both a psychic and technological war, and which began some 13,500(some say earlier) years ago. The war was so horrific and destructive that it caused an unforeseen pole shift which finally destroyed both civilizations as well as three other less known continents and peoples. The book "When the Earth Nearly Died" by Allen and Delair is an accurate attempt to describe this great event.

Many of our traumas and phobias both individually and collectively are rooted in this period of Earth history and have yet to be healed or resolved. After the War humanity basically had to start all over again, taking many hundreds of years to regroup and restart civilization. Many of the Atlanteans and Lemurians and others foresaw the Great War of the Gods and took refuge in the Inner Earth caves and tunnels which were expressly dug up for such crisis periods. When the tumult was over, these scientists and mystics and tradesmen then resurfaced and subjugated humanity again and planted the seeds for new civilizations and empires such as Egypt, Sumeria, India, and China. Unfortunately, they brought with them both their good and bad science, occultism, and technology, which is again bringing us to the verge of destruction or annhilation.

The rebel Atlanteans who came here 50,000 years ago got stuck here and their mission always was(and is) to get out again. In order to do so they had to rebuild their technology, over many thousands of years, which will hopefully penetrate the the barrier or stargate their pursuers erected around our planet, and they are using us to help them do it. In the process they changed primate man to modern man and in return they have acquired some of our own nature. The Atlanteans are male or left-brain dominated and a basically warring and patriarchal society, whereas humans and their Lemurian and Eve descendants are basically right-brain dominated and a peaceful or nature-loving matriarchal society. The Adam or male half of modern man is closer to the Atlantean side and in conflict with the Eve(female) side. Women, who are biologically superior to the male, hold the key to humanity's regeneration, which is why they have been so have been so unfairly maligned or treated by our modern Atlantean-based society. Jehovah was an Atlantean patriarch and his descendants rule to this day, continuing to subjugate the female essence.

Perhaps the meeting of Atlantean and human kind was not an accident at all? Perhaps it was a great experiment of some sort, in which both parties have benefitted somewhat? We have acquired their cunning and intelligence while they have acquired some of our emotional or even spiritual characteristics? They changed us mentally and biologically -sped up our evolution dramatically, but was this good or bad? Were we better off pursuing our own evolutionary course? And did they learn anything from us? Have we been and are we still the instruments of their regeneration? The results have yet to be tabulated.

The Atlanteans, Anunakki, or fallen angels, who are trapped here or "reserved unto judgement" have until 2012 AD to change their evil ways or escape the planet, otherwise they are doomed. In the year 2012 or thereabouts the earth and solar system fully enter a 2000-year band of photon energy coming straight from the galactic center and serving as a cleaning out of all the dirt and negativity here. It happens twice during a 26,000 year cycle, usually in the Ages of Leo and Aquarius. Negative beings and aliens cannot stand this clean or pure photon(light) vibration and become extremely irritable or restless in its presence. That is why there is currently such a great polarization between those who are evil and those who are good, and why technology is speeding up at an incredible rate.

Our pathological leaders seem to have chosen not to change and are desperately seeking a way out of here and they cannot seem do it. HARRP was used to try to burn a hole through the barrier or etheric ring around this planet, but instead it backfired and caused the ozone situation over the poles. They are trying all sorts of technologies to break out and they are having negative consequences on the planet, and if they do not succeed they will try to bring us down with them. We are trapped in a cage with an angry beast and must be ready to defend ourselves. When the ancient pursuers return they will chain and sequester the beast and undo the barrier, and humanity will finally be at peace and in unity with the rest of the solar system."

source
(http://www.librarising.com/cosmology/atlantisrevisited.html)
Published on Feb 25, 2016


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=578iOxxZeVk

ghostrider
23rd June 2016, 03:14
It was king Arus and his 200 scientist that returned from the Syrian\Orion star system who came back to earth and constantly attacked Atlantis and Lemuria forTwo years until they finally succeeded, capturing a large asteroid and hurling it down from space... A remnant of both cities still lives on earth to this day, the Atlantis people live under Mt Shasta, and the blue skinned people under the Himalaya mountains...people in India speak of seeing the blue skinned survivors of Lemuria...

Bibi
23rd June 2016, 03:21
I respect and admire Michael Tsarion a great deal. I've been listening to his interviews and lectures and dipping into his writings off and on for several years. These days, I find myself listening to him whenever I'm involved in a project that allows me to 'split focus'. He does have strong views; however, he backs everything up with bona fide scholarly citations.

giovonni
23rd June 2016, 03:30
It was king Arus and his 200 scientist that returned from the Syrian\Orion star system who came back to earth and constantly attacked Atlantis and Lemuria forTwo years until they finally succeeded, capturing a large asteroid and hurling it down from space... A remnant of both cities still lives on earth to this day, the Atlantis people live under Mt Shasta, and the blue skinned people under the Himalaya mountains...people in India speak of seeing the blue skinned survivors of Lemuria...

Yes most probably, I sense and believe my long family lineage has traces of both Lemurian and Atlantean ancestry ...
And no doubt many that are drawn to this forum - are most likely very much so as well ...

PS ~ Though I'm also sure some here - will call all this poppycock ... giggle :)

bluestflame
23rd June 2016, 04:11
" what was before , will be again "

giovonni
23rd June 2016, 04:36
" what was before , will be again "

Yes it's kinda schizophrenic and circular in nature.

DNA
23rd June 2016, 05:29
It was king Arus and his 200 scientist that returned from the Syrian\Orion star system who came back to earth and constantly attacked Atlantis and Lemuria forTwo years until they finally succeeded, capturing a large asteroid and hurling it down from space... A remnant of both cities still lives on earth to this day, the Atlantis people live under Mt Shasta, and the blue skinned people under the Himalaya mountains...people in India speak of seeing the blue skinned survivors of Lemuria...

Yes most probably, I sense and believe my long family lineage has traces of both Lemurian and Atlantean ancestry ...
And no doubt many that are drawn to this forum - are most likely very much so as well ...

PS ~ Though I'm also sure some here - will call all this poppycock ... giggle :)


Just as a side note, Edgar Cayce stated the current population of folks regarded as Navajo Indians are genetically speaking the closest in terms of relation genetic wise to the peoples from Atlantis.

Heyoka_11
23rd June 2016, 08:12
G'day giovonni,

Thanks for the thread, as I find such subject matter fascinating. More often than not, I'll balk at lengthy OP's, but not this one.

I chuckle on occasion when thinking that one could learn more of Earth history by watching Stargate than reading accepted accounts. I have the video downloading, and look forward to its viewing.


The Cromagnons or Sons of the Serpents went along with their parent's directives for awhile building great cities and monuments, including the pyramids...

That's about the only line that stuck in my throat (the period in history is right though). Perhaps I have something to learn.

Regards,

Tony.

giovonni
23rd June 2016, 08:47
G'day giovonni,

Thanks for the thread, as I find such subject matter fascinating. More often than not, I'll balk at lengthy OP's, but not this one.

I chuckle on occasion when thinking that one could learn more of Earth history by watching Stargate than reading accepted accounts. I have the video downloading, and look forward to its viewing.


The Cromagnons or Sons of the Serpents went along with their parent's directives for awhile building great cities and monuments, including the pyramids...

That's about the only line that stuck in my throat (the period in history is right though). Perhaps I have something to learn.

Regards,

Tony.

Yes perhaps ...

Well I am not one who often post long OP narratives, but if one can read through the above ...
Chances are you'll get through the video lecture and possibly learn something new.

raff
23rd June 2016, 11:02
This is similar to the account given by Robert Shapiro in his book Explorer Race. Of Jehovah, Lucifer and the 166,000. The how's, why's and the everything in between. I highly recommend.

ghostrider
23rd June 2016, 18:01
It is said there are some old Lyrian\Vegan descendants on earth (which is what most people are, those that feel out of place, don't like crowds, and get along better with animals than people are from the destroyed planet phateon\Malona where now circles the asteroid belt...

etheric underground
23rd June 2016, 19:51
Thank you team...you have answered a long pondering question of mine. I have no doubt I was part of Lemuria. But Ive always had this thing about
blue and gold skin.
I assumed I was connecting to the lineage of the Andromedans ( as relayed by alex collier).
I never linked Lemuria to blue skin fairing folk.
An aagh !!! moment.

DNA
23rd June 2016, 21:20
I do agree an ancient peoples of the earth now occupy the Mt. Shasta area.
I do not know what their politics are and or if they would be considered friend or foe.
According to Edgar Cayce there were two major organized religions of the time. The Children of light also calling themselves the children of the Law of One, and the other religion would be the sons and daughters of Belial.
The children of Belial practiced genetic alterations creating partial animal/human slaves. The Children of light were opposed to this.
I can't help but to notice the proximity of the Bohemian Grove to the Mt. Shasta area.
It makes sense that there should be a relationship here.
Just so folks know, that giant owl statue worshiped at bohemian grove is referred to as Moloch.
According to HP Blavatsky (who has a Mt. Shasta connection her self) Moloch in ancient times was deemed the same as the worship of Saturn.
She stated that the worship of Saturn was the same as the worship of Baal. And Baal is regarded as the same as Belial.


So, I would contend we know not the politics of those within Mt. Shasta.
Also
It would appear that those of ancient Mexico and South America, those who built the pyramids and had an obvious practice of human sacrifice were from Atlantis as well.
I dare say the practices hinted at by Carlos Castaneda had their infancy with those from Atlantis.
Castaneda states repeatedly that the ancient pyramids of Mexico should NEVER be visited, for those who created them used them to capture the attention and energies of the people as a means of power.


Here is a pretty good animated piece that shows a perspective on ancient times featuring Lamuria and Atlantis.
The piece mentions an ancient contingency of Martians who arrive here as well. The piece seems to be heavily influenced by Drunvello Mechezidek. It's a pretty fast paced informative narration.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwCaZaSon9A


DwCaZaSon9A

Heyoka_11
24th June 2016, 00:44
Chances are you'll get through the video lecture and possibly learn something new.

G'day once more giovonni,

Phew!...I made it, though I had to do it in several sittings, as it was a bit of a monologue.

Here's the final frame of the video...

33700

Whilst we hear of the unspeakable acts committed by so many, describing them as inhuman/inhumane, unable to fathom how any human could be capable of such evil, we would do well to consider the possibility that their not being quite human in the first place provides the answer. It works for me.

By the way, I have a Lemurian crystal by my bedside: bought it years ago, as when I picked it up in the shop, it wanted to come home with me. Sounds loopy I know, but that was the feeling that I got.

No mention of Cromagnoms and the pyramids though... :P

Hervé
24th June 2016, 01:51
A different take on the "Lemurian vs Atlantean wars" from Jon Peniel:
[...]

First, up until about the mid ‘70’s, there were many UFO sightings in Hawaii, particularly Maui, and then all of the sudden they stopped one day. You’ll understand why later on in the story.

Second, not all UFO’s are extraterrestrial. I know some of you experts are saying, “Yeah, big deal, so what else is new”. But I’m not just talking about experimental government UFO’s, or hybrid craft, I’m talking about ancient craft that are still on Earth. So I guess I should have said, not all UFO’s are extraterrestrial or modern terrestrial craft.

Back in the old days (when I was younger!) before the pole shift, the “great flood”, and the destruction of Atlantis and so many other places, a number of the races on earth used terrestrial craft that when seen in modern times, would be (and were) considered UFO’s. They weren’t really differentiated between an extra terrestrial vehicle and a terrestrial vehicle.

[...]

When he finally did get there, after meeting with my teacher, he told everyone else what had happened to him, during a meeting. He was. . . you wouldn’t call it abduction, he was asked if he wanted to go. A couple of human beings (who turned out to be direct descendants of Atlanteans) intercepted him. This is kind of a weird thing too… They were using what was described as a Lemurian terrestrial craft (which differs greatly from the Atlantean versions), yet these people were Atlanteans not Lemurians. One type of Lemurian craft- the one which the teacher described, is like a circular platform that you step onto and hold a bar of some kind.

Anyway, they took him to Mt. Shasta, and into the INSIDE of the dormant volcano. He said they explained that there were a colony of (oh… this is in the book ‘The lost Teachings of Atlantis’ or a little bit of it at least) Atlanteans. They were actually pure blood genetic descendants of original Atlanteans. And their community was actually inside Mt. Shasta. He said they gave him a complete tour (imagine, a guided tour, and they didn’t even charge him anything for it!) [joke]

Q: Did he get any souvenirs? [novice monk joking]
A: No, no Mickey Mouse ears, nothing other than a pendant.

Q: What where these people doing?
A: These people? They were Atlanteans. They told him why they were there --- If you have not read or been taught about it yet, there was a great war between Atlantis and Lemuria long ago. The Atlanteans won. The final battle took place in what is now Maui, in a place that is even famous for Hawaiian wars, and the bloodshed of all Maui warriors. Anyway, the Lemurians kept retreating and retreating, eventually retreating into an inner-Earth tunnel entrance.

[Relevant Side Note: At the time there was an elaborate underground network of tunnels that was primarily used to travel. The Atlanteans, Lemurians and other groups that had the technology to be able to do that made this inner world tunnel network that they flew in instead of flying in the sky. Not that they didn’t or couldn’t fly in the sky, but for long fast travel, the tunnels prevented all kinds of problems with animals, wind issues, air issues, turbulence of any kind, climactic conditions, canceled flights, irate flight attendants, etc. – the tunnels prevented all atmospheric hindrances to travel.]

Q: The Lemurians did this?
A: Take your hands off your ears. It was a group effort. There were different races in the world that had that technology.

So the Lemurians retreated into one of the entry points and this was in the area that would later be called the Moon crater, near Iao. After retreating into it the Atlanteans literally sealed the entry point with lasers - essentially sealing them into the inner Earth. They also cut them off from their tunnel accesses so they could go nowhere else (yet they eventually did).

[Noises that sound like knocking, are heard in the background]:

[Jon]: Every time we talk about this, weird things happen! Well, not every time, but enough to be quite absurd. This is an interesting side effect of talking about this. In the past, we’ve had knocking coming from underground, under solid rock, right when I’ve been speaking about this subject. It’s usually when I’m telling someone about the ancient prophecies about how the Lemurians are supposed to someday break out of the inner-Earth, and attack humankind. And this knocking has also only happened while talking about this in certain isolated areas – areas where there are some very unusual looking rock formations - places where there are entry points, and the tunnels are quite shallow. For instance, it’s happened outside of Sedona, and another area in the desert north of Phoenix where there was perfectly round circular area in the rock, about twenty feet wide. It had these lines all around it that went down to the center of the circle, like somebody took a big pie cutter and had sliced it for eight pieces of pie. That was a particular kind of one of the old entry points, and that would open up kind of like in the movie 2001, when they show the dome protecting the lunar landing base opening up to allow a landing. The dome opens up kind of like pie pieces that retract and go into the ground.

Anyway, being in areas with entry points always brings to mind this story. So I tell it, and sure enough, “knock, knock, knock”. Very blatant and distinct too - not trick of the ears or anything else. And hollow, echo-ish sounding. And to answer a common question, no, nobody was “on” anything. It was a pretty obvious signal like, “Yep, were are down here and we’re listening to you.” And of course, like I said earlier, in the ancient prophecies of The Children of The Law of One, the Lemurians are supposed to breakout from underground and attack humanity, around the time of the great Earth changes – so it’s particularly eerie and frightens most people. But the ancient prophecies also say that if and when that happens, Thoth’s powerful terrestrial ship will be found by initiates who will know how to operate it, and the Lemurians will again be defeated and be driven underground. This is the same ship which anti-gravity capabilities allowed the construction of the Great Pyramid, it’s associated [with the] pyramids, and was left buried under the Sphinx. It may be the ship that was used to help build the Tibetan monastery also, but I was never told that, only that one was used.

Q: The Lemurians, are they Sons of Belial or Second Wavers? [if you don’t know what that means, it’s a reference to information in “The Children of the Law of One & the Lost Teachings of Atlantis”.]
A: No, they are their own race – kind of a hybrid. The Sons of Belial and The Children of the Law of One were both Atlanteans, both second wavers.

[...]

Q: You started to say that the Lemurians were held back at bay at some point.
A: Well, they were sealed in.

Q: They were sealed?
A: They were sealed in.

Q: That’s only a certain portion other than the other places on earth…(too distant to hear)
A: Yes, their access tunnels were sealed off. Of course, you know that’s a matter of time… before they get out.

Q: How would they live inside the earth?
A: They were in retreat, and there was a lot of equipment underground already, they didn’t have cities down there but they had the means to live, and to keep making the means to live. Even some humans choose to live in underground houses, and of course, it’s common knowledge that the government is set up for high officials to survive totally underground for very long periods of time. So it’s not difficult to understand how an even more advanced culture could pull it off for generations.

Q: What caused the war? (?)
A: I think it was a fight over the temple mount of Jerusalem (joke). This is getting quite off track now, and it actually might be better if you saved your questions to the end, but whatever, we can edit it out later if we like.

Anyway, getting back to the story, we were talking about terrestrial craft, and how it related to there being an Atlantean colony in Mt. Shasta. They explained to this teacher they brought there, that the reason they were there was to insure that the Lemurians didn’t get out prior to the prophesized time toward the “end of the world as we know it”. They said that because the end times were nearing, their time of being guardians was also coming to an end, and that the community was going to be gone by the mid ‘70s.

Q: The watchers?!?
A: Yes. And again getting back to the point… Since the inner-Earth tunnel systems weren't functioning properly, weren’t safe, they were actually using the terrestrial ships in the atmosphere. They would frequently make trips, flying from Shasta to Hawaii, over Maui in particular. They knew progress was being made through access tunnels, and that the seal was broken, but they just had to make sure they didn’t come out and attack. So they returned our teacher, and one day, they were no longer in Shasta.

[...]

Excerpted from : Ancient Atlantean Teachings and My Personal Experiences with Aliens & UFOs It seems to me that the propaganda war is still on as to which ones are the good guys and which ones are painted black....

raff
24th June 2016, 08:10
Chances are you'll get through the video lecture and possibly learn something new.

G'day once more giovonni,

Phew!...I made it, though I had to do it in several sittings, as it was a bit of a monologue.

Here's the final frame of the video...

33700

Whilst we hear of the unspeakable acts committed by so many, describing them as inhuman/inhumane, unable to fathom how any human could be capable of such evil, we would do well to consider the possibility that their not being quite human in the first place provides the answer. It works for me.

By the way, I have a Lemurian crystal by my bedside: bought it years ago, as when I picked it up in the shop, it wanted to come home with me. Sounds loopy I know, but that was the feeling that I got.

No mention of Cromagnoms and the pyramids though... :P

Nah mate your not loopy your just Australian. Thanks for sh#ts and giggles mate.