I am everyone...and everyone is me

[Sérénité]

It's been a constant on my mind for a while now. Questioning not just myself, but the world of people all around me...why can't we all live as one?

http://www.e4cp.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/world-peace-please.jpg

Mass immigration has brought it to a head I feel. So many people, both whom I know and strangers alike I read their words and hear them talking...why are we so hateful, scared, unsure, disinterested in others just because we was born into different countries, continents, religions, upbringings?

The scale of immigration, refugees and migrants is worrying me, I won't lie.

Not because I dislike, fear or think bad of anyone...but because I feel its being orchestrated to hurt both sides, to cause mass unrest, rejection and animosity.

Because a vast majority, whether they be the displaced immigrants (by choice or by necessity) or the aboriginals of those lands...it is the reluctance and abhoration of both sides to integrate and get along peacefully, respect each others morals and cultures that is the issue.

Its the only thing standing in our ways. If we all get along and love and respect one another as a fellow human rather than judging what we wear, the colour of our skin, which god we do or not believe in...then we're united...and cannot be divided, conquered or ruled.

How funny to think that the fanatics who say they would die for their gods, for their families and their ancestors...how ironic that should they be able to go back into their ancestry would find out the very people they hate and wish to see suffer are actually THEIR ancestors.

How funny to think that the xenophobic in us and around us, should we have the same opportunity, may find the very people we dislike, was it not for them in our heritage...we wouldn't be here today...in our current body, our current life.

I feel we're at a tipping point in history, where we either all make amends and come together, or it all goes down the pan.

These short video really made me think...I wish this test was free and available to all..if so, what a different world we would be living in within just a few short years...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw7FhU-G1_Q


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYnutf0rqeY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5o9DmUYCJA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk3F37A--aA



:grouphug:

[greybeard]

Time being we live in a word of duality a world of differences--uniqueness, variety.
However we can respect and learn from these seeming differences.
In reality we are the One formless Self.
Formless can not have experiences thus the One manifest as the many.

Chris

[scanner]

You cannot have one without the other and the other is stopping the one . The one is the people , and the other is the elites . They have created division , a divided people is easy to control . They control through so many aspects of our lives . The strawman , education , money , religion , cultures and Wars . All control mechanisms , past masters have tried to unite us .

[ozmirage]

We cannot live as one because of the conflict of laws.

The conflict between laws has plagued mankind for millennia. Those who follow the law of the jungle (predators) versus those who follow the law of love (harmless producers).

The strong prey on the weak until the weak cooperate and mutually defend themselves and their property.

Then the predators seek to infiltrate the cooperative and turn it to their own use.
That's where we are now - government run by predators who seek to disarm their prey. And the (m)asses are reduced to a free range game farm.

[betoobig]

We have to work so much our matrix programing in order to over come it and free ourselfs, from being or, should i say, from feeling divided , becouse we are allways conected. And there is no need to do it everybody, with a minority, which allready is, is enough. Things are allready changing and , please, dont get lost with all the "noise" around. You are so important. Focus. See you posted at 11:33. You are very well guided and kind.
Thanks for sharing and much love

[Foxie Loxie]

Have appreciated the comments. I always go back to this; everything depends upon what brainwashing a child is subjected to in the learning years. Until something breaks through to make the person start to question, all remains the same.

[ulli]

I always love these kinds of threads, because they give everyone this built-in opportunity to see things from a higher perspective, more en-light-ened, which is the only way to grow...up and up...
just look at plants, how they seek the light.

[Leon Kovalyov]

I think we all do live as one, the gamut of experiences are what we have come here for. Life has certainly been orchestrated for both the farmers and the farmed. Lessons for all to be learned... What is the lesson at every given situation and what can we do, not necessarily physically at times...Each one of us has ours to grow and stretch into the light to sustain and feed others and theirs. Keep shining dear loveys :heart::sun::Party::clapping::hug::dance3:

[ZooLife]

RE: I am everyone...and everyone is me


If I am I because I am I, and you are you because you are you, then I am I and you are you. But if I am I because you are you and you are you because I am I, then I am not I and you are not you!

-- Kotzker Rebbe (1787–1859)

http://img02.deviantart.net/bee1/i/2013/109/f/f/antipodal_ouroboros_by_corviid-d36i6im.jpg

[AutumnW]

We can't live as one, because our values conflict. I have no desire (or ability) to have an egalitarian relationship with a man from a culture that devalues women.

I also have a tough time seeing any benefit in upholding cultures that legally marry off their girl children, ( to their cousins, often times, at the age of ten,) heap abuse on dogs, because they are 'unclean,' etc...

I'm sorry. No can do!

[AutumnW]

Time being we live in a word of duality a world of differences--uniqueness, variety.
However we can respect and learn from these seeming differences.
In reality we are the One formless Self.
Formless can not have experiences thus the One manifest as the many.

Chris

Chris, How about those, in Africa, who believe that albinos are demonic, so harass and murder them? Should we respect them too? Quite frankly, a good half of the world lives in complete 'belief squalor,' that revolves around preying on the innocent.

[AutumnW]

It's been a constant on my mind for a while now. Questioning not just myself, but the world of people all around me...why can't we all live as one?

http://www.e4cp.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/world-peace-please.jpg

Mass immigration has brought it to a head I feel. So many people, both whom I know and strangers alike I read their words and hear them talking...why are we so hateful, scared, unsure, disinterested in others just because we was born into different countries, continents, religions, upbringings?

The scale of immigration, refugees and migrants is worrying me, I won't lie.

Not because I dislike, fear or think bad of anyone...but because I feel its being orchestrated to hurt both sides, to cause mass unrest, rejection and animosity.

Because a vast majority, whether they be the displaced immigrants (by choice or by necessity) or the aboriginals of those lands...it is the reluctance and abhoration of both sides to integrate and get along peacefully, respect each others morals and cultures that is the issue.

Its the only thing standing in our ways. If we all get along and love and respect one another as a fellow human rather than judging what we wear, the colour of our skin, which god we do or not believe in...then we're united...and cannot be divided, conquered or ruled.

How funny to think that the fanatics who say they would die for their gods, for their families and their ancestors...how ironic that should they be able to go back into their ancestry would find out the very people they hate and wish to see suffer are actually THEIR ancestors.

How funny to think that the xenophobic in us and around us, should we have the same opportunity, may find the very people we dislike, was it not for them in our heritage...we wouldn't be here today...in our current body, our current life.

I feel we're at a tipping point in history, where we either all make amends and come together, or it all goes down the pan.

These short video really made me think...I wish this test was free and available to all..if so, what a different world we would be living in within just a few short years...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw7FhU-G1_Q


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYnutf0rqeY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5o9DmUYCJA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk3F37A--aA



:grouphug:

Serenite, You are engaging a paradox here. Should we be tolerant of the intolerant? Should we blind ourselves to that intolerance and vote them into office, for example? Do you, as a woman, want them to adopt your way of life or vice versa?

[Mike]

We can't live as one, because our values conflict. I have no desire (or ability) to have an egalitarian relationship with a man from a culture that devalues women.

I also have a tough time seeing any benefit in upholding cultures that legally marry off their girl children, ( to their cousins, often times, at the age of ten,) heap abuse on dogs, because they are 'unclean,' etc...

I'm sorry. No can do!



Reminds me of this quote: "honor thy mother and father....but only if theyre honorable":)

Which surely could be extended to "honor thy fellow human being...but only if theyre honorable"

[greybeard]

Time being we live in a word of duality a world of differences--uniqueness, variety.
However we can respect and learn from these seeming differences.
In reality we are the One formless Self.
Formless can not have experiences thus the One manifest as the many.

Chris

Chris, How about those, in Africa, who believe that albinos are demonic, so harass and murder them? Should we respect them too? Quite frankly, a good half of the world lives in complete 'belief squalor,' that revolves around preying on the innocent.

It takes time to understand non-duality in its entirety and thats the context im coming from and im still learning but respecting the differences is not about condoning violence.
People can be educated out of their ignorance and fear. True we are living in very violent times, people suffer great hardship and cruelty.
However out of that comes compassion and real help from those are able to.
When the understanding is there that the same creator lives in the other how can you harm anyone--they are the same as you.--thats the essence of non-duality and the teachings of Jesus--Love thy neighbor as yourself.

Easier said than done of course.

Chris

[AutumnW]

Thank you Chris, good answer. I can't argue with that and think it is wise to withhold judgement, when dealing one on one with somebody from any background, as I hope they would with me.

[Eram]

Time being we live in a word of duality a world of differences--uniqueness, variety.
However we can respect and learn from these seeming differences.
In reality we are the One formless Self.
Formless can not have experiences thus the One manifest as the many.

Chris

Chris, How about those, in Africa, who believe that albinos are demonic, so harass and murder them? Should we respect them too? Quite frankly, a good half of the world lives in complete 'belief squalor,' that revolves around preying on the innocent.

It takes time to understand non-duality in its entirety and thats the context im coming from and im still learning but respecting the differences is not about condoning violence.
People can be educated out of their ignorance and fear. True we are living in very violent times, people suffer great hardship and cruelty.
However out of that comes compassion and real help from those are able to.
When the understanding is there that the same creator lives in the other how can you harm anyone--they are the same as you.--thats the essence of non-duality and the teachings of Jesus--Love thy neighbor as yourself.

Easier said than done of course.

Chris

Well Said Chris.

The mechanism of it is easier to see when compared to children.
As a parent, we witness them do things that are cruel , yet we still love and respect them.
We do not condone it, but recognize that they are ignorant and have to learn.

[ghostrider]

Every spirit form comes from Creation, a tiny piece of that spark that created universes... We are one creation expressing ourselves as the universe always looks for variance... The inner realm of the human being (heaven) is still connected to Creation... Only our wrong thinking has some feeling alone, separate from everyone else, that's lifes deception for us through meditation and prayer to learn to conquer and overcome...

[AutumnW]

Removed my post.

[Agape]

One evening when I was walking around the temple in Namgyal monastery , like many other evenings , many people walking in rounds,
monks and lay visitors of each evening , young and old, praying , walking quietly in sober contemplation about the day , self , the world , the events ..

sharing quiet greetings and prayers offered for all ...

especially the many, countless victims of the worlds wars and disasters

many evenings that went just quiet . Not many people around .

I watched my teachers back and the senior nun doing prostrations , her ankles bound to hold in position , hands dressed in wooden planks to slide smoothly on the marble floor

a girl from New York , sweating under similar ordeal on the other side of the temple yard .

I want to understand .. about everyone and everything.


And then I see myself in all these people and it being one long path ..

man like baby keeps crawling on the ground , rising to his heights and falling down to the feet of majestic wisdom of Life

rising and falling, being born anew in the beauty of child and ageing through the nerves of experience

Somehow, I saw the Time as it revolves in All of Us through eternal cycle .

I saw that many times, many Ways.


It's an amazing experience


:heart:


http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/Aikatwo/IMG_0526.jpg (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/Aikatwo/media/IMG_0526.jpg.html)


This puzzle comes from 1977 when I was about 4 years old . Somehow I protected it from being taken from me ...

many of my generation of kids say that they could /we could feel the internet coming , we also probably just felt naturally, similarly about the world and greater interconnectedness of things .

It needs to come yet ... Bigger Ways...


:sun:

[seah]

to live as 'one' in a duality realm such as ours is an impossibility, and to even introduce it into our frame of reference is setting us up to feel defeated when unattainable, and who introduced it, but religious leaders, so that having failed, we would shuffle on over to hand our power away. I apologize if this pov hits a tender spot but it is unfortunately the reality as I see it.

"we are not hateful", dear OP, a branch of those we live with are hateful, and "we" best make this knowledge what we breathe day in and day out, or "we" will be plundered.

[Michelle Marie]

Unconditional love for everyone.

We're growing into that. This thread helps promote our evolution.

Thank you!
MM

[loc333]

Im not gonna add much to your thread but thanks...ive known for a while you have to have unconditional love..for all..and when someone proves that . I had a tear in my eye..of hope that we might be going in the right direction ..thanks loc333

[greybeard]

to live as 'one' in a duality realm such as ours is an impossibility, and to even introduce it into our frame of reference is setting us up to feel defeated when unattainable, and who introduced it, but religious leaders, so that having failed, we would shuffle on over to hand our power away. I apologize if this pov hits a tender spot but it is unfortunately the reality as I see it.

"we are not hateful", dear OP, a branch of those we live with are hateful, and "we" best make this knowledge what we breathe day in and day out, or "we" will be plundered.

Sorry but I think you are mistaken to believe that living in non-duality is impossible in this world.

Here are links to two threads that give testimonials from some ordinary people who are living that life.

Chris

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43027-Enlightenment-A-direct-succinct-account-of-what-occurs...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860-Enlightenment-and-related-matters.&p=1077840&viewfull=1#post1077840

[Ewan]

If I may share a little story from a few years ago, though unfortunately language will be a major hindrance to clarity.

Back in 2004, for a brief period of time as I looked around the world I lived in every person I saw was recognised as at least a friend, more often a member of family. I literally looked at strangers and recognised them as family members. They were just people walking down the street as I drove along the road. As I glanced at them I had various intuitions, 'That's my cousin Susan!', 'There's Uncle Jack!', 'That's my friend Dave!'. (That last one a childhood friend I had not seen for over 10 years).

This is difficult to explain. It wasn't an inner dialogue. I wasn't saying these things to myself. It was a recognition, an acknowedgement. All these complete strangers, of different culture and ethnicity, were a part of my close circle. The whole world of humanity was my family.

I dearly wish I could spend each and every day in just such a state of mind.

[Sérénité]

Serenite, You are engaging a paradox here. Should we be tolerant of the intolerant? Should we blind ourselves to that intolerance and vote them into office, for example? Do you, as a woman, want them to adopt your way of life or vice versa?

I understand what you mean AutumnW.

To be tolerant of others views, when making choices...do we accept their intolerance and not stand for what we believe, or be intolerant ourselves and stand up for our principles...

Its a fine line I guess.

Me personally, I am tolerant of the intolerant as I respect everyone has differing outlooks and purposes in life. It doesn't mean I agree with their ways of life or their morals and values, But it means I respect that is their choice and they are playing out those choices through their own free will...and that is nothing to do with me.

I don't vote anyone in or out of office for this reason. Never have. That and the fact the faces we are given a 'choice' to vote for are only puppets for the same master. But that's digressing :)

Me as a woman (or a man if I was one) I don't wish anyone to adopt my way of life, unless its the life they choose. And likewise I won't ever adopt anyone's way of life if I don't feel happy with their choices...this includes establishments and organisations too, not just people. I refuse to be controlled but equally do not wish to control others.

This is really the overall point I'm making I guess. Everyone getting along isn't about adopting each others ways of life, or expecting people to follow suit...its about respecting everyone is unique and different and just because their path isn't one we would take, it doesn't have to divide us.

And that when you strip us all back, take away the ingrained religious beliefs, the 'isms' we have had drummed into us by external factors whilst growing up, the brain washing of the media...take away all those issues we develop from outside influences that are not truly us...and look at who we all really are, our DNA, our true souls...we are all connected at some level.

Each to their own so long as no harm is done :bearhug:

[Sérénité]

One evening when I was walking around the temple in Namgyal monastery , like many other evenings , many people walking in rounds,
monks and lay visitors of each evening , young and old, praying , walking quietly in sober contemplation about the day , self , the world , the events ..

sharing quiet greetings and prayers offered for all ...

especially the many, countless victims of the worlds wars and disasters

many evenings that went just quiet . Not many people around .

I watched my teachers back and the senior nun doing prostrations , her ankles bound to hold in position , hands dressed in wooden planks to slide smoothly on the marble floor

a girl from New York , sweating under similar ordeal on the other side of the temple yard .

I want to understand .. about everyone and everything.


And then I see myself in all these people and it being one long path ..

man like baby keeps crawling on the ground , rising to his heights and falling down to the feet of majestic wisdom of Life

rising and falling, being born anew in the beauty of child and ageing through the nerves of experience

Somehow, I saw the Time as it revolves in All of Us through eternal cycle .

I saw that many times, many Ways.


It's an amazing experience


:heart:


http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/Aikatwo/IMG_0526.jpg (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/Aikatwo/media/IMG_0526.jpg.html)


This puzzle comes from 1977 when I was about 4 years old . Somehow I protected it from being taken from me ...

many of my generation of kids say that they could /we could feel the internet coming , we also probably just felt naturally, similarly about the world and greater interconnectedness of things .

It needs to come yet ... Bigger Ways...


:sun:

Perfect :bearhug:

[Sérénité]

[/QUOTE]Greybeard
It takes time to understand non-duality in its entirety and thats the context im coming from and im still learning but respecting the differences is not about condoning violence.
People can be educated out of their ignorance and fear. True we are living in very violent times, people suffer great hardship and cruelty.
However out of that comes compassion and real help from those are able to.
When the understanding is there that the same creator lives in the other how can you harm anyone--they are the same as you.--thats the essence of non-duality and the teachings of Jesus--Love thy neighbor as yourself.

Easier said than done of course.

Chris[/QUOTE]

Thank you for putting this perfectly in words I find hard to find sometimes :)

[Pam]

Every decision we make comes down to love or fear. We have the choice every minute to act out of love or fear, it's as simple as that, but not always easy.

[seah]

to live as 'one' in a duality realm such as ours is an impossibility, and to even introduce it into our frame of reference is setting us up to feel defeated when unattainable, and who introduced it, but religious leaders, so that having failed, we would shuffle on over to hand our power away. I apologize if this pov hits a tender spot but it is unfortunately the reality as I see it.

"we are not hateful", dear OP, a branch of those we live with are hateful, and "we" best make this knowledge what we breathe day in and day out, or "we" will be plundered.

Sorry but I think you are mistaken to believe that living in non-duality is impossible in this world.

Here are links to two threads that give testimonials from some ordinary people who are living that life.

Chris

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43027-Enlightenment-A-direct-succinct-account-of-what-occurs...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860-Enlightenment-and-related-matters.&p=1077840&viewfull=1#post1077840

You have misinterpreted what I said, Chris, but so be it, only don't be repeating your words as my own.

I work very hard at living in non duality, some days I do well, others, I fail, but I do not live as one, nor do I live in love and light, loving everyone unconditionally.
I am in a mortal body having a human experience, my life is poetry to me. I don't want to be anywhere else but here, or be anyone else than who I am at this moment.

[animovado]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=33744&d=1467474396

I'm trying so very hard to give that oneness more space in my life!

On a more serious note, wouldn't it be impossible to share everything with each other, even misconceptions and feelings based on fear, if we weren't already one?

[Agape]

I work very hard at living in non duality, some days I do well, others, I fail, but I do not live as one, nor do I live in love and light, loving everyone unconditionally.
I am in a mortal body having a human experience, my life is poetry to me. I don't want to be anywhere else but here, or be anyone else than who I am at this moment.



As stated in the great Tao-te-ting , Book about the Tao and the Way ..

''Heavens do not show mercy to its creatures . Creation is to heaven as much as sacrificial straw dog .

Therefor , the wise man too does not show mercy to creatures . They're to him as much as sacrificial straw dog .

The wise man helps without saying , accomplishes his aims without acting , reaches Onness through non-engaging . For it's by becoming nothing we become One

while through an action we split in manifold ways and directions.''


The old times keep dying and people turn sad ... it's inevitable . Truth may liberate you or it may kill you depending on which side you look from.

The burden of proof is upon us ...

this world starts looking like giant battlefield to me and i am so peace loving creature .


:angel:

[Chester]

I "think" (for what it's worth) that for the individual it all boils down to the individual's core, foundational world view and then the attitude that individual chooses.

Of course, I should only say this for myself, but in my operational protocol the above view is one of my primary current operational assumptions.

My world view is best described by the term "monistic idealism" and my attitude is pretty darn positive of late.

[bettye198]

This thread brought to my mind the book I am reading, actually recommended by one of our Avalon members and so glad I did. Its a syfy series unlike anything you have ever read. An Emissary comes to Earth( called Shikasta) in the hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of years ago and begins to jot notes and reports regarding the civilizations and species that is compiled in a massive library on the Canopus planet. All the inhabitants originate from a planet called Canopus. So all the humans know, including the animals,they are from pure spirit , the oneness that you have all talked about in this thread. There is reverence and honor of the Creator. Anyway, the story quickly unfolds about why and how the negative energy destroyed all that. These were people who had no understanding of fear, suspicion or hate. Think of that!! And they were Giants! The author follows a long series of how Shikasta became infected and how detrimental it was on so many levels of the pure being. It will rock you because it is all close to home, what we are experiencing in this lifetime.
First book is Shikasta by Doris Lessing. She has 4 books to follow:The Marriages between Zones 3,4,5, the Sirian Experiments, The Making of the Representatives for the Planet, and the Sentimental Agents in the Volyen Empire.
She was a prolific writer of fiction in the U.K. for years. Suddenly she was compelled to write at age 59 these books. She has died but lived to 94 and people were aghast she wrote so differently in the autumn of her life. I have to wonder why she changed gears. The syfy writing is so intense complex and detailed as if she is reliving a life then or is receiving high self info.

I am skeptical about the nuance of DNA regarding our ancestry though from the other threads. How can anyone possibly know the soul consciousness memory of past lives?

[joeecho]

If I am everyone and everyone is I then there is no distinction between 'me' and everything and all ideas would be one idea, the idea itself.

[greybeard]

There are different, separate levels (energy) in the scheme of things. Basically there is relative truth and Absolute Truth--The Godhead --for want of a better way of putting it.
The formless manifests as form---the One becomes the many and forgets it self.
Just a question of respecting the level we find ourself in.
Yet be aware that this, the body, the identity as persona,-the world, is a temporary home--situation.

Chris

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Thank you very much for the thread.

In the beginning, we all (spiritually) originated from the same place: Source. And we all originated (biologically) from the same place as well: the first Humans. So we really are all the same. One of the main goals to incarnating in this reality is to experience division and separation – and after many cycles to overcome both and recognise oneness.

As one of the subjects in the DNA experiment suggested, the test should perhaps be compulsory. Everyone should undergo this ancestor origin test. It would be the first step perhaps in widening human consciousness, and to embrace the nature that we are the same, we all came from the same place. We are merely divisions of the same cell.

[ZooLife]

There are different, separate levels (energy) in the scheme of things. Basically there is relative truth and Absolute Truth--The Godhead --for want of a better way of putting it.
The formless manifests as form---the One becomes the many and forgets it self.
Just a question of respecting the level we find ourself in.
Yet be aware that this, the body, the identity as persona,-the world, is a temporary home--situation.

Chris

Temporary home is a misnomer as nothing temporary can be a home, however, one can leave home without ever leaving home.

http://www.world-of-lucid-dreaming.com/image-files/dreams-and-types-of-dreams.jpg

Know you are home even when every fiber of your senses are screaming that you are not. No ruby slippers required.

[Sérénité]

This thread brought to my mind the book I am reading, actually recommended by one of our Avalon members and so glad I did. Its a syfy series unlike anything you have ever read. An Emissary comes to Earth( called Shikasta) in the hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of years ago and begins to jot notes and reports regarding the civilizations and species that is compiled in a massive library on the Canopus planet. All the inhabitants originate from a planet called Canopus. So all the humans know, including the animals,they are from pure spirit , the oneness that you have all talked about in this thread. There is reverence and honor of the Creator. Anyway, the story quickly unfolds about why and how the negative energy destroyed all that. These were people who had no understanding of fear, suspicion or hate. Think of that!! And they were Giants! The author follows a long series of how Shikasta became infected and how detrimental it was on so many levels of the pure being. It will rock you because it is all close to home, what we are experiencing in this lifetime.
First book is Shikasta by Doris Lessing. She has 4 books to follow:The Marriages between Zones 3,4,5, the Sirian Experiments, The Making of the Representatives for the Planet, and the Sentimental Agents in the Volyen Empire.
She was a prolific writer of fiction in the U.K. for years. Suddenly she was compelled to write at age 59 these books. She has died but lived to 94 and people were aghast she wrote so differently in the autumn of her life. I have to wonder why she changed gears. The syfy writing is so intense complex and detailed as if she is reliving a life then or is receiving high self info.

I am skeptical about the nuance of DNA regarding our ancestry though from the other threads. How can anyone possibly know the soul consciousness memory of past lives?

I'm going to check these books out...thank you Bettye :)

[Ewan]

This thread brought to my mind the book I am reading, actually recommended by one of our Avalon members and so glad I did. Its a syfy series unlike anything you have ever read. An Emissary comes to Earth( called Shikasta) in the hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of years ago and begins to jot notes and reports regarding the civilizations and species that is compiled in a massive library on the Canopus planet. All the inhabitants originate from a planet called Canopus. So all the humans know, including the animals,they are from pure spirit , the oneness that you have all talked about in this thread. There is reverence and honor of the Creator. Anyway, the story quickly unfolds about why and how the negative energy destroyed all that. These were people who had no understanding of fear, suspicion or hate. Think of that!! And they were Giants! The author follows a long series of how Shikasta became infected and how detrimental it was on so many levels of the pure being. It will rock you because it is all close to home, what we are experiencing in this lifetime.
First book is Shikasta by Doris Lessing. She has 4 books to follow:The Marriages between Zones 3,4,5, the Sirian Experiments, The Making of the Representatives for the Planet, and the Sentimental Agents in the Volyen Empire.
She was a prolific writer of fiction in the U.K. for years. Suddenly she was compelled to write at age 59 these books. She has died but lived to 94 and people were aghast she wrote so differently in the autumn of her life. I have to wonder why she changed gears. The syfy writing is so intense complex and detailed as if she is reliving a life then or is receiving high self info.

I am skeptical about the nuance of DNA regarding our ancestry though from the other threads. How can anyone possibly know the soul consciousness memory of past lives?

I'm going to check these books out...thank you Bettye :)

I hope you do check them out, they're very valuable for jigsaw puzzle fans.

Here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90101-Doris-Lessing-and-Nexialism) 's a link to that thread. :)

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Partially furred, electrically powered water filled gas processing meatbags inhabited by multidimensional sentient beings have nothing to worry about in the long run. Meatbags break, and then it’s time to dwell among the interdimensional civil servants of the sovereign of the universe.
Remember, try to be the kind of person you’d prefer to spend eternity with, rather than avoid.

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Heading there now...Thank you Ewan :)

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Thank you Bettye198 and Ewan...I've just ordered Shikasta off Ebay. Looking forward to reading it now :)