EU President speaks of "leaders from other planets who are worried" in EU Congress

[justalight]

HI!
Here is a interesting youtube video - just listen to the french original tone - this is the president of the EU speaking of leaders of other planets who are worried because of what is happening here .... no hoax!

Maybe there are members who speak french as a mother language and who are able to translate it precisely. Wanted to post it and hope it is not erased already.

What do you think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fPeTZofdCE

[Daozen]

Maybe House Abrasax are getting mad that their best loosh farm is waking up. BTW, the entity Abraxas has been written about for millenia:


Abraxas (Gk. ΑΒΡΑΞΑΣ, variant form Abrasax, ΑΒΡΑΣΑΞ) was a word of mystic meaning in the system of the Gnostic Basilides, being there applied to the "Great Archon" (Gk., megas archōn), the princeps of the 365 spheres (Gk., ouranoi)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraxas

If this is verified, it is very interesting, but we should check hard before we spread it. I just googled the title, and there's only one link. It might be worth seeing if this is in a speech on the official website.

Also strongly suggest downloading and saving this video. I'm doing it now.

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From the comments:

Die Reptoiden kontrollieren die EU :)

[Shannon]

Very interesting!

I'm waiting anxiously, yet patiently for a translation :)

[Bill Ryan]

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The official, 'groomed' English translation from the original French is here:

http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_SPEECH-16-2353_en.htm

If anyone can find the original version in French, it's SPEECH/16/2353 (28 June, 2016).

[Bill Ryan]

If anyone can find the original version in French, it's SPEECH/16/2353 (28 June, 2016).

Okay, here it is:

http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_SPEECH-16-2350_fr.htm

The section is question is transcribed/recorded as



Il faut savoir que ceux qui nous observent de loin sont inquiets. J'ai vu et entendu et écouté plusieurs des dirigeants. Ils sont très inquiets parce qu'ils s'interrogent sur la voie que l'Union européenne va poursuivre.
That means (fairly accurately, I think)



You should know that those who observe us from afar are worried. I saw and heard and listened to several executives. They are very worried because they question the way that the European Union will continue.So either he didn't actually say that — or the German simultaneous translator inexplicably had a bit of a brainstorm. :)

[Bill Ryan]

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Yes, the official transcript has been altered.

http://www.7sur7.be/7s7/fr/37462/Brexit/article/detail/2780504/2016/06/30/Juncker-Les-dirigeants-des-autres-planetes-sont-inquiets.dhtml

(video of the live French original is embedded on that page)

Hervé will say more... :thumbsup:

[Hervé]

HI!
Here is a interesting youtube video - just listen to the french original tone - this is the president of the EU speaking of leaders of other planets who are worried because of what is happening here .... no hoax!

Maybe there are members who speak french as a mother language and who are able to translate it precisely. Wanted to post it and hope it is not erased already.

What do you think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fPeTZofdCE

The French from the video:

"Il faut savoir que ceux qui nous observent de loin sont très inquiets. J’ai vu et entendu et écouté plusieurs des dirigeants d’autres planètes qui sont très inquiets puisqu’ils s’interrogent sur la voie que l’union européenne va poursuivre. Et donc, if faut rassurer, et les européens, et ceux qui nous observent de plus… loin."

"It should be known that those who observe us from afar are very worried. I met and heard and listened to several of the leaders from other planets who are very concerned because they question the path the European Union will engage on. And so, a soothing is needed for both the Europeans and those who observe us from ... farther away."

The transcript shown on the video has been edited to omit the "planets" reference...

It seems Juncker realized his booboo as he later referred to the leaders/observers as observing from "far away" instead of being "off-world."

[Daozen]

Time to move quickly. Screengrabs, Archives, caches.... I already got the video. Sorry Titus, you need to get some better lackeys. (Nothing personal)


"It should be known that those who observe us from afar are very worried. I met and heard and listened to several of the leaders from other planets who are very concerned because they question the path the European Union will engage on. And so, a soothing is needed for both the Europeans and those who observe us from ... farther away."

It's more important what Juncker actually said than the written transcript, but it's all evidence... Tampering shows they realized it was an error.

http://i.imgur.com/u1sLFMl.png

[Daozen]

From the artcicle: Mais c'est une référence aux "autres planètes" qui prouve que Jean-Claude Juncker était vraiment au bout du rouleau:

être au bout du rouleau
(figurative, = être exténué) to be at the end of one's tether

[Bill Ryan]

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The audio of Juncker's speech up to just past the 'other planets' reference is here:

http://projectavalon.net/Jean-Claude_Juncker_other_planets_reference.mp3

What he really said can be very clearly heard just after the 7:55 mark. For non-French speakers, you can follow the official French transcript here (http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_SPEECH-16-2350_fr.htm).

[justalight]

The German speaker in the video stated that the sentence has been erased in the official transcript for "unknown" reason, said so by the speaker of the german comment ...
The video has been published first by a very serious and known for quality journalism magazin FOCUS - I mean still controlled media/press, but with this in mind even more surprising. I think a download is really wise ;-)

[Daozen]

This bitly link goes to a 6 second loop of the incriminating phrase. Don't know how long the Loop url stays up, but it can be easily passed around now.

http://bit.ly/299XfWT

EDIT: That loop can be easily sabotaged, so I'll make a Tubechop and Vine...

[Shannon]

Thank you, Herve! ;)

[Mercedes]

To me this is huge!!!

[Debra]

Video embedded in 7sur7 article was actually sourced from a Facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/UEenFrance/videos/1060036104072714/

People are not taking his comment about what other planets think too well. Here are some of the comments that followed (with automatic translation)

I have removed names XXXX / italics: comments in French / bold: auto translation my emphasis

EDIT UPDATE:the FB page as one commentator below claims, was made by the 'vod service of the site of the European Parliament and has been picked up by the Facebook page France of the European commission'
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Il a fumé ou mangé quoi avant ? ha ha ha. Faut arrêter la fumette hein ? Dire que ces bandits sont payés par nos impôts. Je ne connais pas ce guignol. Vivement le Franxit !

He smoked or ate what before? Ha ha ha. Need to stop the smoke huh? Say that these bandits are paid by our taxes. I don't know this joker. Looking fwd to the franxit!
Automatically translated

Like · Reply · 30 June at 22:56 · Edited
3 Replies

XXXX
cet escroc qui a organisé et gèré l'évasion fiscale pour les grandes entreprises ayant leur activité en Europe ( amazone , google, etc ). Lui qui a fait du Luxembourg un paradis fiscal devrait se taire et ne pas parler au nom de l'Europe !!!

This crook who organized and gèré tax evasion for large companies having their activity in Europe (Amazon, Google, etc.). He who has made the luxembourg a tax haven should be silent and not speak on behalf of Europe!!!
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Like · Reply · 22 hrs

XXXX
oui et pour que son porte feuille continue à bien se remplir jusqu'à ras la gueule

Yes, and for that his wallet continues to well fill up until ra the mouth
Automatically translated
Like · Reply · 29 June at 10:09
XXXX
A la fin il dit qu'il a "vu, entendu et écouté plusieurs des dirigeants d'autres planètes".

At the end he says he has "seen, heard and listened to several leaders of other planets".
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Like · Reply · 30 June at 11:04

XXXX
la vérité est ailleurs

The truth is out there
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Like · Reply · 30 June at 22:16

XXXX
Ce n'est plus la jouissance du pouvoir mais la jouissance du super pouvoir alien! :-D Quelle glande hyperactive! Exit, ces privilégiés assistés de la démocratie malade, comme E.T. quand il reste trop longtemps sur terre :-D

This is no longer the enjoyment of power but the enjoyment of the super power alien! :-D what a hyperactive gland! Exit, these privileged assisted of democracy sick, like e.t. when he stays too long on earth :-D
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AND FURTHER ALONG ...

this is it, maybe Jean-Claude Juncker will be a viral, and it will follow meme about his comment "in english"
Like · Reply · 3 hrs

XXXX
In Vino Véritas !!! Et peut-être je reste prudent ....

Il parle bien d'autre nation extra terrestre et il est au courrant ... Ils sont d'ailleurs quelques "UN" à être au courrant !!! Bien sur que le peuple des étoiles (comme disent certains Amérindiens) s'inquite de ce qui se passe ici bas, j'en suis intimement convaincu <3

Les Dormeurs doivent se réveiller c'est valable aussi pour ceux qui nous gouvernent, l'augmention de la vibration de Conscience est OQP à agir, méditons, prions, partageons, pensons, comme vous voulez et chaque "UN" selon sa conviction intérieure, pour un monde meilleur et les choses bougerons c'est comme cela .... <3

In Vino Veritas!!! And maybe i want to be cautious....
He speaks well of other nation alien and he knows... They are also a few "a" to be informed!!! Of course that the people of the stars (like say some amerindians) if worried what's going on down here, I am firmly convinced <3
The sleepers must awaken this is valid also for those who govern us, the augmention of the vibration of consciousness is oqp to act, meditate, pray, share, believe, as you want and every "a" according to his inner conviction, to a Better world and things move from it's like this.... <3

AND, THIS: perhaps implying a false flag of sorts?


XXXX ailleurs cette vidéo émane du service VOD du site du parlement européen et est relayée par la page facebook france de la commission européenne, elle comporte peu de risques de falsification.. En tout cas pas de nature à décrédibiliser Juncker..

Furthermore this video emanates from the vod service of the site of the European Parliament and has been picked up by the Facebook page France of the European commission, it has few risks of falsification.. In any case not of a nature to discredit juncker..Automatically translated/

[Daozen]

Here's a loop:

http://ytcropper.com/cropped/2f577742704fea5

FB comment:

Il a fumé ou mangé quoi avant ? ha ha ha. Faut arrêter la fumette hein ? Dire que ces bandits sont payés par nos impôts. Je ne connais pas ce guignol. Vivement le Franxit !
He smoked or ate what before? Ha ha ha. Need to stop the smoke huh? Say that these bandits are paid by our taxes. I don't know this joker. Looking fwd to the franxit!

[Carmody]

Well, you can't have involvement form other planets until humanity is unified in some manner. Otherwise the situation is just too damn provincial.

This is the sole reason I'm in favor of a single governmental system.

But not by the utraviolent.... or by violent underhanded means.

Think of the psychology of the moment:

It has to happen on it's own, before the introduction of other species.

Any other open off world involvement beforehand... means a very large risk of togetherness over the idea of a fear based war footing (circle the wagons)... and that's the thing that is to be avoided at all costs. Or worse yet: A potential for fractal level fracturing. Mini-god nutbars popping up everywhere, all looking to buy/obtain a technological boomstick to cower their enemies.

This can skew the entire species in a negative relational/reactionary way, all through a very potent moment in evolution. A very bad odor and color could be imparted. Mucho dangerous flavoring precedent, makee aliens nervous. Wipe self bum first.

Thus, the order of operations is:
1) some form of a world governmental body that is effective,
2) alien relations.

[boja]

Is it possible that Junkers intended to say "other CONTINENTS", but it came out as "other PLANETS" simply by mistake ??

[poetbil]

Is it possible that Junkers intended to say "other CONTINENTS", but it came out as "other PLANETS" simply by mistake ??

of course he can do that ,after all he is drunk all the time :cocktail::coffee::coffee::cocktail:

[bluestflame]

so they have dictators on other planets too ?

[Rollo]

Too many words going in the same thought direction. When he talks about the leaders from other planets he finishes with them observing us from farther away- like in space.
To me he doesn't talk about the leaders from other continents as they are on the same level and he would say it in a different manner like our allies or friends etc.
or specify which leaders as there were just few of them.

This is big if it's true. But if we watch the video (http://www.7sur7.be/7s7/fr/1505/Monde/article/detail/2780504/2016/06/30/Juncker-Les-dirigeants-des-autres-planetes-sont-inquiets.dhtml) on the Belgian website and we watch the last part of the speech. At least from 7th minute mark then we can observe that the sound doesn't match the movement of his lips when all the rest of the speech is matched.

It is a very well done hoax.

[Spacyman]

Is it possible that Junkers intended to say "other CONTINENTS", but it came out as "other PLANETS" simply by mistake ??

No, it's not really possible. He clearly says it with intent. He didn't try to rectify, he didn't mumble or hesitate. (for the record, I'm french Canadian)

[boja]

The Audio and the Video in the ORIGINAL POST match perfectly.

[Ewan]

Well, you can't have involvement form other planets until humanity is unified in some manner. Otherwise the situation is just too damn provincial.

This is the sole reason I'm in favor of a single governmental system.

But not by the utraviolent.... or by violent underhanded means.



I paraphrased pretty much the same to a friend the other day. Humanity cannot really advance until we consider ourselves one.

As long as they try to do it by subterfuge and lies, whilst instigating more and more division and control, there is clearly a negative mindset at play. If the politicians are concerned by this a suitable reaction might be to stop bending over for corporate wishes.

If there are off-planet concerns it would seem to suggest a positive interaction being delayed at first glance. Yet I feel the reverse is just as possible, unfortunately.

One wouldn't generally think that the phrase "As above so below" could contain so much latent menace but I fear it does. Duality is de jure in the material realms, ergo the idea of 'good' and 'bad' aliens is just as certain as the saint and psychopath here on Earth.

There can be no informed consent until we are informed. That a huge weight of power exists to keep us in the dark is not at all encouraging.

The Europe that was forming was flawed and going to get worse. Those that encouraged the break-up, (behind the scenes), are potentially even more negative. ( I talk here of power houses, not the common man ).

Can a phoenix rise from the ashes and a new Europe form. It has to and yet I don't see how it can.

If truth were to break free and flood the planet the majority would be stunned to such an extent they could no longer function.

[sheme]

Here here Ewan, well said, if they are so arrogant that they think we may not be privy to the truth, we may be certain they have not got our best interests at heart. We may be on the menu and not the agenda.

[Anchor]

Well, you can't have involvement form other planets until humanity is unified in some manner. Otherwise the situation is just too damn provincial.

This is the sole reason I'm in favor of a single governmental system.

I agree, but I am an anarchist so now what :)

I think the key in what you say is "you can't have involvement form other planets until humanity is unified in some manner"

Perhaps it'll pan out like this:

you can't have involvement form other planets until whatever humanity that survives is unified in some manner.

Personally I can't see any other way of having unification of the humans until the ones that don't want it have gone. For the avoidance of doubt... I am not advocating forcing the issue! Its just that I think this is the way it will happen and lots of people will exit stage left who cannot live in the new world.

Destabilisations such as brexit and the like (lots all round the world) are all part of that process - nature is also doing her part.

[Sunny-side-up]

Well, you can't have involvement form other planets until humanity is unified in some manner. Otherwise the situation is just too damn provincial.

This is the sole reason I'm in favor of a single governmental system.

But not by the utraviolent.... or by violent underhanded means.

Think of the psychology of the moment:

It has to happen on it's own, before the introduction of other species.

Any other open off world involvement beforehand... means a very large risk of togetherness over the idea of a fear based war footing (circle the wagons)... and that's the thing that is to be avoided at all costs. Or worse yet: A potential for fractal level fracturing. Mini-god nutbars popping up everywhere, all looking to buy/obtain a technological boomstick to cower their enemies.

This can skew the entire species in a negative relational/reactionary way, all through a very potent moment in evolution. A very bad odor and color could be imparted. Mucho dangerous flavoring precedent, makee aliens nervous. Wipe self bum first.

Thus, the order of operations is:
1) some form of a world governmental body that is effective,
2) alien relations.

Yup, by now we should have at least a full-global-democratic-voice of the planet.
but like you say not the negative version we are seeing collapse.

Mistake probably, or a soft tactic to change open minded peoples views about the EU?

[Agape]

From the same source as quoted (http://www.7sur7.be/7s7/fr/37462/Brexit/article/detail/2780504/2016/06/30/Juncker-Les-dirigeants-des-autres-planetes-sont-inquiets.dhtml):


"Il faut savoir que ceux qui nous observent de loin sont inquiets. J'ai vu, entendu et écouté plusieurs dirigeants d'autres planètes, ils sont très inquiets parce qu'ils s'interrogent sur la voie que l'Union européenne va suivre"


" You should know that those who observe us from afar are worried. I saw , heard and listened to several other planets leaders , they are very worried because they question the way that the European Union will follow "


Can this be interpreted as 'other planets leaders' rather than 'leaders of other planets'.

I don't know enough French to evaluate this but from the context it's clear that grammatical mishap may have occurred , between or among the multi-language environments there.

In short , ''I saw, heard and listened to leaders'' : ''leaders'' are in 4th grammatical case here if I'm correct [ I saw whom ? leaders ] [ genitive (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_grammar) ].

''Other planets' '' sentiently , refers to 'other leaders of this planet' .

As I've said I don't know enough French to judge but it makes sense to me he meant this rather than the previous.

:star:


If not clear , can ''dirigeants d'autres'' be coupled grammatically in French , as in many other languages where it is permissible to position adjective after the noun ,
meaning 'other leaders' ( of planet ) rather than leaders ''d'autres planètes'' ( of other planets ) ?


:coffee:

[Bill Ryan]

Is it possible that Junkers intended to say "other CONTINENTS", but it came out as "other PLANETS" simply by mistake ??

No, it's not really possible. He clearly says it with intent. He didn't try to rectify, he didn't mumble or hesitate. (for the record, I'm french Canadian)

Endorsing that. What he said was crystal clear, and has no other meaning. It was a major speech on an internationally important topic (Brexit), and he was representing the entire EU on a live-televised public stage.

A sloppy mistake seems hard to believe... read the rest of the speech (in any language), and it's prepared, statesmanlike, and exact. Every sentence says just what he wanted to say.

Usually, I'd put this kind of thing down to silly YouTubers who just don't understand something and are leaping to crazy conclusions. But here, Juncker really did say that, and precisely, too.

It's all very wild indeed, but it may not be 100% impossible that he let something slip, forgetting just for a moment where he was and who he was talking to.

[Agape]

v4G6KyKx7pk


No other meaning, ok Jean-Claude .

[sheme]

Perhaps those leaders are the escaped elite hiding on other planets in our solar system, perhaps we were about to enter into some deceitful PTW contract that sells our planet to off worlders, but we just scuppered it all because of our politicians haste to get their ticket to the underworld , I know they do protest to much!

Declaration "leaders of other Planets" the deal is off, you may not interfere with our planet and it's peoples desire for self determination. The truth must be explained to the people, what is happening and why? Nothing can be built on deception but deception.

[norman]

They've quite probably discovered that on every planet they've so far visited, they've found that the dominant population is a single 'entity'.

From that they've wrongly assumed that it is right and proper to enforce a singe dictatorship here on earth.

[Mercedes]

v4G6KyKx7pk


No other meaning, ok Jean-Claude .

To me, this side of him gives more creedibility to the intention of his words. He knows and wanted to say it. For what reason? That is the question.

[seah]

Wow, that's a big slip, if indeed it is what it appears to be and not orchestrated. Thank you to all who translated and went searching for the truth.

[sheme]

I bet he retires any minute now. Better the devil you know. He is our drunk on the inside after all. I wonder how much all that good wine costs us EU tax payers.

[Hervé]

Taking as a given that JC Juncker met, and listened to off-world representative concerns, these other portions of his speech (some omitted - in-between brackets - from the official transcript (http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_SPEECH-16-2350_fr.htm)) take on a different overtone and direction:

"... Il faut en tirer les conséquences.

[Si je dis que je suis triste ou bien que les sentiments - à ce qu'il parait - n'ont plus cours dans la vie politique, je le dis parce que je ne suis pas un robot, je ne suis pas le bureaucrate, le technocrate... (heckling)... vous êtes des bureau-exits... moi, je ne suis pas un bureaucrate, un technocrate. La commission a été élue par cette assemblée: nous avons eu un processus démocratique avec les "lead candidates" qui ont amenés aux résultats que vous n'aimez pas; mais nous somme là en tant qu’êtres humains. Je ne suis pas un robot, je ne suis pas une machine; je suis un être humain, je suis un européen et, donc, j'ai le droit de dire que je regrette le vote des britanniques.

Je voudrais que le Royaume Uni clarifie sa position...]

"Je demande au gouvernement du Royaume-Uni – et je verrai le Premier ministre plus tard dans la matinée,"

"Moi, contrairement à d'autres, je ne suis pas un esclave des marchés financiers, mais je les observe. C'est une indication d'un sentiment général qui est global. Moi, je voudrais que le Royaume-Uni, comme je venais de le dire, clarifie sa position. Et je ne voudrais pas que cette idée s'installe qu'il pourrait y avoir des négociations secrètes, en chambre assombrie, à rideaux tirés, entre des représentations du Royaume-Uni, des gouvernements nationaux, des Commissaires, et des Directeurs généraux. J'ai interdit – ordre présidentielle, ce qui n'est pas mon genre – aux Commissaires de discuter avec des représentants du gouvernement britannique. J'ai dit à tous les Directeurs généraux qu'il ne saurait y avoir de discussions préalables avec des représentants britanniques. No notification, no negotiation."

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[... We must draw the conclusions.

If I say I'm sad or that feelings - so it seems - have no currency in politics, I say it because I'm not a robot, I'm not the bureaucrat, the technocrat ... (heckling) ... you are office-exits... I am not a bureaucrat, a technocrat. The commission was elected by this assembly, we had a democratic process with the "lead candidates" that led to the results you do not like; but we are here as human beings. I'm not a robot, I'm not a machine; I am a human being, I am a European, and therefore I am entitled to say that I regret the vote of the British.

I would like for the United Kingdom to clarify its position ...]

"Unlike others, I am not a slave to the financial markets, but I observe them. And they show an indication of a general sentiment that is global. As I just said, I would like the United Kingdom to clarify its position. And I would not like the idea to gain ground that there could be secret negotiations, in darkened rooms behind drawn curtains, between representatives from the United Kingdom, national governments, Commissioners, and Directors-General. I have forbidden Commissioners from holding discussions with representatives from the British Government — by Presidential order, which is not my style. I have told all the Directors-General that there cannot be any prior discussions with British representatives. No notification, no negotiation."

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Juncker's insistence of him being human and experiencing human emotions is somewhat intimating that some others aren't human... or that others are unfeeling robots or machines...

See?

[Iloveyou]

Juncker's insistence of him being human and experiencing human emotions is somewhat intimating that some others aren't human... or that others are unfeeling robots or machines...

See?

That was my first immediate, strong impression when I listened to the OP video (in French) for the first time. Why emphasize the fact of being human? To me that was almost a more significant, though indirect statement than the 'dirigeants d’autres planètes'.

[sheme]

http://www.cosmicvisionnews.com/item/238

Great reference site.

[Sunny-side-up]

Shows their arrogance dose it not, lumping the whole world under their name EU, unless it really stands for Earth Union! or Earth-Unison :sun:

Great post, this is a great blunder or disclosure.

[norman]

E. U. , as Earth Union, does have a president.

N. H. S. , as National Hospice Service.

[Enola]

This gave me a real surreal feeling. I know it's Avalon, but still. The world sure seems strange these days.

[Carmody]

It's going to get a lot stranger yet.

[Hervé]

There is another intriguing thing about this speech... and who it was intended to: who would follow a live speech at the European commission's Parliament session instead of watching some out-of-this-world Kardashians?

Then, there are these other interesting absences:


The heckler(s) didn't take it up and just remained silent,
the other members of the European Parliament didn't show any signs of surprise or astonishment...

... so, they were all either in a state of entranced sleepiness or it was a sort of: "Yeah, so what, we all know that... we've all talk to them too..." or, else, the translators didn't know what to do with it...

[Agape]

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He says something about the reasons for the parliament meeting being important not only for the EU but entire planet [ that's where I hear planet being mentioned for the first time , in sentence or two before ] . It's not clear to me whether his French is slightly out-fashioned , even grammatically ..
Most languages spoken today have a 'modern version' with rather uncomplicated, standard word order in use but even in old English - and most other ancient language forms there's multiplicity of grammatical choice - depending on intentions and occasion of the speech of course.

As one commenter under the above video on youtube suggests :


Junker est francophone mais le français n'est pas sa langue natale. " et " Il n'est pas difficile de comprendre que sa langue à fourché et qu il a voulu dire : "d'autre pays" tout en pensant à dire "d'autre dirigeant de la planète" ça a donné " dirigeant d'autre planète"" C'est pourtant tres simple à comprendre.


Junker is French but French is not his native language. "And" It is not difficult to understand that his tongue forked and that it meant " other countries " while thinking to say " the other leader of the planet" it gave " officer of another planet "" But it is very simple to understand.

[justalight]

Thank you so much for the loop Daozen!!! Great idea !!!!

[justalight]

I have thought about the motivation now a long time. First I have to agree to what Bill said. I mean such an important speach is prepared days before. Have been working with german parliament members and I know that every speach is checked many times before it is held.

I think there it is no question that this words have been wisely chosen and have been said with intention.

This raises questions:
1. Who has written this speach for Juncker? He or someone else?
2. If written by someone else, why had Juncker no problems to say this sentences?
3. Was he forced to say it or did he act freely?
4. Why has this speach been held at this point in time - better this occaison in the EU parliament?
5. Why are there no reactions by the mainstream media on that - in a sense of stating that Juncker was drunken, or that they put out it was a mistake or else actions to cover it? Think of Roswell and the weather baloon ....

[Daozen]

^^^ These are the questions that need to be asked. Even taking the most mundane case scenario, that it was a slip of the tongue... do we really want someone who can't distinguish between a planet or continent running the EU? Juncker is a drunk. He slaps his colleagues in public. If alcohol is a problem, maybe he should step down.

He also said "Those who observe us from afar" "Il faut savoir que ceux qui nous observent de loin sont inquiets." which could quite easily mean continent, but it could also be a veiled allusion to off world controllers.

In other discussions they are trying to dismiss it as a mistranslation. This is not the case, we have direct recorded evidence.

Glad you liked the loop, no questions. I'll turn it into a Vine if I get time.

[ElfeMya]

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Glad you liked the loop, no questions. I'll turn it into a Vine if I get time.

Oh yes please Daozen and let's make it viral...

[ElfeMya]

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No other meaning, ok Jean-Claude .

This is hilarious, thanks Agape for posting !

[Daozen]

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Glad you liked the loop, no questions. I'll turn it into a Vine if I get time.

Oh yes please Daozen and let's make it viral...

I will try ElfeMya... You know the problem? I am working on a Chinese computer and the Vine download page automatically reads in Chinese from Taiwan. So it's hard to get the app.

[Agape]

East meets West and the meeting point is ‘alpha’ (fine structure constant) herein we have evidence of a language that the universe utilizes to ‘replicate’ itself.
How does the universe get information from the ‘source’ to the outer reaches of both outer space and inner space?

Alpha (1/137) (https://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2011/09/27/1468/) vs. Alphabets
Anything man can do the universe has already accomplished on some level and it was probably better designed too.

Thanks for the hyper loop Daozen. I think the implications of the great slip are potentially infinite ( at least so in maths )..

[ElfeMya]

There is another intriguing thing about this speech... and who it was intended to: who would follow a live speech at the European commission's Parliament session instead of watching some out-of-this-world Kardashians?

Then, there are these other interesting absences:


The heckler(s) didn't take it up and just remained silent,
the other members of the European Parliament didn't show any signs of surprise or astonishment...

... so, they were all either in a state of entranced sleepiness or it was a sort of: "Yeah, so what, we all know that... we've all talk to them too..." or, else, the translators didn't know what to do with it...

I watched the speech as well and keep thinking like you that if he had said something stupid then there would have been at least a little bit of smiling or reaction around this and nobody moves like this is totally normal. Also he stumbles a tiny bit around the end of the paragraph but has no hesitation whatsoever when he is saying the planet part. He takes his time to articulate his words...
The way he is talking he looks like this is really the speech script that he is voicing and there is not much doubt around it or looking for his words...
There is not a single sign of oddness around the planet part of the speech.
Now I am not a frequent listener of his speeches and have no idea of how he talks usually but from the video agape posted, if he is up to silly crap, he does it wholeheartedly soil it was a pranking thing, it would show in the speech, wouldn't it ?

My 2 cents. ;-)

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Glad you liked the loop, no questions. I'll turn it into a Vine if I get time.

Oh yes please Daozen and let's make it viral...

I will try ElfeMya... You know the problem? I am working on a Chinese computer and the Vine download page automatically reads in Chinese from Taiwan. So it's hard to get the app.

Thanks Daozen, your work is greatly appreciated and shush on the Chinese computer woes.
Fruity hugs to you !

[ElfeMya]

I think there it is no question that this words have been wisely chosen and have been said with intention.

This raises questions:
1. Who has written this speach for Juncker? He or someone else?
2. If written by someone else, why had Juncker no problems to say this sentences?
3. Was he forced to say it or did he act freely?
4. Why has this speach been held at this point in time - better this occaison in the EU parliament?
5. Why are there no reactions by the mainstream media on that - in a sense of stating that Juncker was drunken, or that they put out it was a mistake or else actions to cover it? Think of Roswell and the weather baloon ....

No Questions, I too am super curious about the origin of the speech script... Junker seems to have no trouble at all voicing out the planet bit, not looking for words or notes, pretty confident in the uses of the term... he does not look too much under the stress of being forced to voice anything as well. And the lack of reactions apart from the comments mentioned earlier on the thread found on faebook also puzzles me. On the video by Agape, each time he acts silly and slaps people there are reactions on their faces, little things to pick up on but when Juncker says that thing about the planets, nobody moves like it is obvious and well known...

' wondering '

Fruit hugs to you.

[Spacyman]

He says something about the reasons for the parliament meeting being important not only for the EU but entire planet [ that's where I hear planet being mentioned for the first time , in sentence or two before ] . It's not clear to me whether his French is slightly out-fashioned , even grammatically ..
Most languages spoken today have a 'modern version' with rather uncomplicated, standard word order in use but even in old English - and most other ancient language forms there's multiplicity of grammatical choice - depending on intentions and occasion of the speech of course.

As one commenter under the above video on youtube suggests :


Junker est francophone mais le français n'est pas sa langue natale. " et " Il n'est pas difficile de comprendre que sa langue à fourché et qu il a voulu dire : "d'autre pays" tout en pensant à dire "d'autre dirigeant de la planète" ça a donné " dirigeant d'autre planète"" C'est pourtant tres simple à comprendre.


Junker is French but French is not his native language. "And" It is not difficult to understand that his tongue forked and that it meant " other countries " while thinking to say " the other leader of the planet" it gave " officer of another planet "" But it is very simple to understand.

I wouldn't dismiss this explanation completely. However, to me, his level of french, by the way he speaks and articulates, is strong enough to be able to clearly know the difference. This is a man, I'm assuming, who do these kind of speech frequently and, IMHO, for it to be a genuine mistake is very unlikely.

Of course the natural reaction is to try to rationalize that it can't be anything else but a mistake. I for one tried to justify his words with all sorts of reasons but at the end of the day, he actually did say "leaders from other planets" without blinking or the tiniest bit of an hesitation. We all search around and hope for disclosure. Well there it is, right in our face, we must be ready to accept it. People seems to need to see a "breaking news" banner on CNN for it to be factual... I've came to accept that most people will prefer to comfort themselves with sketchy and far fetched explanations instead of simply accepting the obvious and face a new reality that shakes the foundations of their belief.

Whatever this is genuine "disclosure", intended or not, it serves to show that some people will always try to dismiss any attempt at it. We all make our own reality. In mine this was a proper proof that they're all in on something.

[ElfeMya]

I wouldn't dismiss this explanation completely. However, to me, his level of french, by the way he speaks and articulates, is strong enough to be able to clearly know the difference. This is a man, I'm assuming, who do these kind of speech frequently and, IMHO, for it to be a genuine mistake is very unlikely.

Of course the natural reaction is to try to rationalize that it can't be anything else but a mistake. I for one tried to justify his words with all sorts of reasons but at the end of the day, he actually did say "leaders from other planets" without blinking or the tiniest bit of an hesitation. We all search around and hope for disclosure. Well there it is, right in our face, we must be ready to accept it. People seems to need to see a "breaking news" banner on CNN for it to be factual... I've came to accept that most people will prefer to comfort themselves with sketchy and far fetched explanations instead of simply accepting the obvious and face a new reality that shakes the foundations of their belief.

Whatever this is genuine "disclosure", intended or not, it serves to show that some people will always try to dismiss any attempt at it. We all make our own reality. In mine this was a proper proof that they're all in on something.

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Agree with you Spacyman.

[Daozen]

Good thoughts Spacyman. It may be soft-disclosure, intentional or not. But the particular group of off worlders Juncker is (possibly) referring to are nervous/worried (inquiets) that the EU is falling apart. We can maybe infer that this particular group is interested in setting up a global federation. Why would that be? The EU siphons money from Europe, is there a loosh component to this organized parasitism?

A question for all readers: Do you consent to being farmed for your own emotions?

Are Titus and Balem worriedly pacing the halls of Abraxas Industries as we speak? Is the current crop of Regenex in trouble?

It took us at least 20 years to unpack the Matrix. Only recently has Elon Musk talked about this world being a computer simulation. Simulation theory is now a respected academic subject. Even with our public technology, we are only 10-20 years away from making a full on immersive world (they probably exist already).

How long til we decode Jupiter (Lucifier?) Ascending... ?

[ElfeMya]

A question for all readers: Do you consent to being farmed for your own emotions?

Are Titus and Balem worriedly pacing the halls of Abraxas Industries as we speak? Is the current crop of Regenex in trouble?

How long til we decode Jupiter (Lucifier?) Ascending... ?
To answer this :

1. No I don't consent to it ( being farmed ).
2. I have no idea but I really hope they feel the burn and their asses are starting to roast
3. Not long. ;-) Let's make that happen.

Fruity hugs

[justalight]

Fantastic idea Daozen!!!! Let´s do it, let´s make it viral!!!
:heart::heart::heart:

[seah]

There is another intriguing thing about this speech... and who it was intended to: who would follow a live speech at the European commission's Parliament session instead of watching some out-of-this-world Kardashians?

Then, there are these other interesting absences:


The heckler(s) didn't take it up and just remained silent,
the other members of the European Parliament didn't show any signs of surprise or astonishment...

... so, they were all either in a state of entranced sleepiness or it was a sort of: "Yeah, so what, we all know that... we've all talk to them too..." or, else, the translators didn't know what to do with it...

Could it be that due to the Mandela Effect they didn't hear what 'we' heard? 😊

[Daozen]

The Vine app doesn't work on my PC as I don't have Windows 10. If anyone else can convert the 6 second clip I linked that would help. I will put it up on my account, or they can put it on theirs, as they wish.

The Mandela effect intrigues me but the wave has collapsed now. We're living in a reality where Juncker said what he said. On the other hand, we live in a world where politicians employ the Mandela effect regularly.

Another explanation for the lack of immediate EU reaction: time delay in translation. 5-10 seconds. So what was their reaction *after* the time lag? I was watching them closely + didn't see much. They could've been bored out of their brains. Or prior knowledge, as others have said. Maybe it was all the above.

[Starseed]

My Translation: "... horizons of Europe and the entire planet.
It is important to know that those who observe us from afar are worried. I have seen and heard, listened to a few leaders from other planets. They are very concerned because they are questioning the direction the EU is taking. And so, we need to reassure Europeans and those who are observing us from further... away."

Official translation: "Make no mistake, those who are watching us from afar are concerned. I have met and listened to several leaders. They are very worried because they are wondering about the course the European Union will take. So we must reassure Europeans and those who are watching us from further.

Spot the omissions and change in verbs, lack of pauses, etc.

Difference between observe and watch:

To observe is to visually examine something that exists within you sight.

To watch is to observe an image with sight and mind and consciously decide to stare.

[Daozen]

Awesome, Starseed. That should go on an infographic...

[Citizen No2]

I think we would be wise..... nay, cautious, to at least keep this information on the table whenever we are presented with video and audio of prominent people saying things that we may want to hear......... Or somebody wants us to hear.

The lack of reaction from the rest of the assembly bothers me a little with regard to what Juncker purportedly said. It therefore has to be, at least, considered that there was no reaction from them because what they heard was not what we are being presented with.

As I say, just a consideration.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohmajJTcpNk



Regards.

[sheme]

Well spotted remember we have sound. we also have an audible sigh/ giggle from a couple of the representatives if you listen carefully.

[Michael Moewes]

Very interesting indeed.

[Hervé]

[...]
The French from the video:

"Il faut savoir que ceux qui nous observent de loin sont très inquiets. J’ai vu et entendu et écouté plusieurs des dirigeants d’autres planètes qui sont très inquiets puisqu’ils s’interrogent sur la voie que l’union européenne va poursuivre. Et donc, il faut rassurer, et les européens, et ceux qui nous observent de plus… loin."
[...]

The more I listen and re-read that statement, the more it appears to be very precise in its wording and meaning:

"It must be known that those who observe us from far away are very worried. I met and heard and listened to several of the leaders from other planets who are very concerned because they wonder which path the European Union is going to follow. Hence, reassurances must be given to both the Europeans and those who observe us from much... farther away."

... because "other leaders of this planet" are not "observing from far away" since, for most, they are only a phone call away and, moreover, are active participants in European affairs, whether that be via Ukraine, Libya, Syria, Turkey, Greece, etc... those are not "observers" observing from "far away."

I agree with the members mentioning the speech was intentional, not from any teleprompters (none available) nor from directly reading notes except for the last word... after a dramatically intentional "pause" in its delivery.

The precision of that statement comes with the defining of where about those "far away" (mentioned twice) observers are looking from... and those are actually the ones being "very worried." The others are just fighting for a piece of the pie.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Is there any possibility there is another context to the word 'planets' in french - maybe 'spheres' (of influence), meaning foreign parties or foreign governments?

Only French speakers can answer that, but if the word planètes really can only mean planets, then wow, he really has come out with something very interesting and extraordinary. If this was simply a faux pas, then one would expect the mainstream media to be all over it. But there is not a word from them on this.

[Michael Moewes]

There is no second meaning behind.
A planete is a planet

Is there any possibility there is another context to the word 'planets' in french - maybe 'spheres' (of influence), meaning foreign parties or foreign governments?

Only French speakers can answer that, but if the word planètes really can only mean planets, then wow, he really has come out with something very interesting and extraordinary. If this was simply a faux pas, then one would expect the mainstream media to be all over it. But there is not a word from them on this.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

There is no second meaning behind.
A planete is a planet

cool, that clears that up then. Question now remains, was it a slip of the tongue, or purposefully planted information? If the latter, was it his personal intention (at great risk) to do this, or is this part of a planned disclosure?

[Hervé]

One needs to chew on this sandwich to fully comprehend its intentionality (intro and conclusion consistent with and confirming the main body) and substantial content:



TOP
"those who observe us from far away are very worried."

MIDDLE
"I met and heard and listened to several of the leaders from other planets who are very concerned"

"reassurances must be given to both the Europeans and those who observe us from much... farther away."
BOTTOM
(of sandwich)

[boja]

So in summary :- Jean Claude Junkers, President of the European Commission, tells the world that
he (and presumably other people) have been speaking to entities on other planets, and they're concerned about
Britain leaving the European Union, and the direction in which Europe is heading.

Also, while he is making this statement, almost nobody at the venue displays any emotion.
(most of them appear completely disinterested in what he is saying).

Also, media coverage of his speech, simply removes his reference to Extraterrestrials from the transcripts.

[Hervé]

So in summary :- Jean Claude Junkers, President of the European Commission, tells the world that
he (and presumably other people) have been speaking to entities on other planets, and they're concerned about
Britain leaving the European Union, and the direction in which Europe is heading.

Also, while he is making this statement, almost nobody at the venue displays any emotion.
(most of them appear completely disinterested in what he is saying).

Also, media coverage of his speech, simply removes his reference to Extraterrestrials from the transcripts.

Basically, yes...

Which brings back this question:


There is another intriguing thing about this speech... and who it was intended to: who would follow a live speech at the European commission's Parliament session instead of watching some out-of-this-world Kardashians?
[...]

That statement, in the middle of a public speech was aimed at someone (or many listening but not in the loop).

Due to the precision of the statement, there is another detail which bears emphasizing:


I met and heard and listened to several of the leaders from other planets... meaning: there was NO DISCUSSION!

"THEY" put forth their worries IF... yady-yada-yadydada!

That is, something to the effect of:


LISTEN! you little piece of chickensh!t: you better pull you sh!t together or else we won't be back for another couple of thousand years... CLARO!?!

[ThePythonicCow]

There is no second meaning behind.
A planete is a planet

cool, that clears that up then. Question now remains, was it a slip of the tongue, or purposefully planted information? If the latter, was it his personal intention (at great risk) to do this, or is this part of a planned disclosure?
Herve, one of our fine moderators, and a native French speaker, wrote above that:

The more I listen and re-read that statement, the more it appears to be very precise in its wording and meaning

I gather that Juncker's words here were yet another tease by the elite regarding the involvement of alien intelligence in human affairs.

[betoobig]

Soft disclousure, in vino veritas , is also a great answer, but to me is simply that Truth is pooring in all directions , unstopable.
Please in-joy it.
Much love

[sunwings]

Many whistle blowers have stated that a Fake alien invasion is on the table. This weekend Independence 2 was released. Now we have the President of the European commission clearly stating that the leaders of other planets are not happy. It is interesting if nothing else.

[boutreality]

The EU will fail. It will be a sustained collapse spread out over a period of time to stabilize the countries in question -and mitigate backlash- as much as possible as it happens.

I'd call the statement a not so subtle distress signal.

The system that is used to rule this planet will fail. It is not the only one of its type that exists throughout the cosmos.

Please consider the info provided in the threads below (supporting thread links are found there) for informative purposes- do not accept it if you don't want or if something else makes sense to you. -Even if it sounds plausible to you, don't accept it out of hand!

Obviously, because I am linking to it, I know it has everything to with (what's behind the scenes of) current world affairs.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90812-Why-Skull-and-Bones-exists-how-they-work

Be Well

"...And if she has the nerve to let me have a couple last words, I'm going to turn to the Earth and say, "Love your life." -Atmosphere

[Agape]

A butterfly stepped on general's toe changed the history of mankind , many times yet...

:coffee:

[Kindred]

Lets think about this... supposedly these 'off world leaders' are concerned about Britain leaving the EU. SO - what do they think of the wholesale destruction of Earth's biosphere???

I find it Extremely telling that there's No mention of the wholesale degradation of OUR planet.. from the poisoning of our air and soil via chemtrails and fossil fuel emissions, to the destruction of the aquifers in many regions from fracking and poisonous chemical runoffs, to the irradiating all the World's oceans, never mind the rampant 'islands of plastics' floating about, all in addition to the murdering of much of the sea life, particularly the whales and dolphins, via the military's inordinate use of electronic/acoustic weaponry and communications. It seems to me that these 'off world leaders' have Do Not have Earth's OR Humanity's best interests in mind... At All.

I agree with boutreality.. there WILL be a Change for the Better, and these 'off world leaders' will be but a blip in Earth's evolution to a more Conscious and Just Civilization, rising to it's full potential... As Jesus said; "All these things ye shall do, and More"

In Unity, Peace and Love - for ALL Humanity, and Mother Earth

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

TOP
"those who observe us from far away are very worried."

MIDDLE
"I met and heard and listened to several of the leaders from other planets who are very concerned"

"reassurances must be given to both the Europeans and those who observe us from much... farther away."
BOTTOM
(of sandwich)



So in summary :- Jean Claude Junkers, President of the European Commission, tells the world that
he (and presumably other people) have been speaking to entities on other planets, and they're concerned about
Britain leaving the European Union, and the direction in which Europe is heading.



I want to know who exactly 'up there' the European Union have been talking to - and who's been talking to them and influencing them. I am very curious as to the nature of this ET group, and why they would be concerned over the destabilization of the EU, a top heavy and deeply flawed, corrupt political system -- unless this ET group is not at all positively aligned.

[Hervé]

[...]
I want to know who exactly 'up there' the European Union have been talking to - and who's been talking to them and influencing them.
[...]

My best wishes to you in your endeavour... they might be the same dudes whose representatives are said to be walking the halls of the Pentagon or those who struck a deal with Hitler... etc... or, maybe, just vestigial remnants of former civilizations (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91490-Michael-Tsarion-The-War-Of-The-Gods-Lemuria-Vs-Atlantis&p=1076841&viewfull=1#post1076841)?

[Starseed]

I am predicting that the European Union will disolve before 2023! By then, more middle Eastern countries would have moved to Europe since the climate will become more and more unbearable in these parts of the world. Mass migration will soon appear to become common news. As more earthquakes and disasters hit planet Earth, including the ice melting of the poles, the earth axis will change further, as it did after Fukashima. By weakening Europe the way Britain has done it, it does not help the fate of what we call Europe today. Furthermore, the next 7 months will also display more of these sort of messages from officials. I know that there is a mandate involving other planetary diplomats wanting this information to become public, warning the population that we are in a critical time of change. Our consciousness is ready to move up to the next dimension and as far as I understand it, this dimensional world will come to us, for the masses to embrace. So, do not be alarmed, this is all good news! After all, we are seeking unity, not division.

[Hervé]

Juncker Under Pressure to Resign as EU Splits Over Brexit Response (http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160704/1042398525/eu-juncker-resign-brexit.html)

Sputnik (http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160704/1042398525/eu-juncker-resign-brexit.html) Europe (http://sputniknews.com/europe/)14:46 04.07.2016


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A growing rift is developing within the EU amid reports European Commission chief Jean-Claude Juncker is under pressure from German officials to resign following the British exit from the EU.

The pressure on Juncker comes as member states remain divided on whether to accelerate EU integration or take a more pragmatic approach to centralizing power in the wake of the UK's referendum decision (http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160624/1041853921/brexit-united-kingdown-eu.html).

As debate continues on the EU's future in the face of growing Euroskepticism, a German government minister told the Sunday Times newspaper that German Chancellor Angela Merkel had come to view Juncker as "part of the problem" with the EU.




https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/722585833195241472/em7ILcFk_bigger.jpg ChristinaD ‏@fitalass (https://twitter.com/fitalass)
ChristinaD Retweeted Andrew Neil
Brexit is as much Juncker's failure as any other politician involved and he should resign.
ChristinaD added,
Andrew Neil @afneil Juncker faces his own exit as German Gov hints it could side with East European leaders who want EU commission president to go ​"Juncker has time and again acted against the common interest, and his reaction to the British referendum has been very damaging," the source said.

It's understood that Juncker's language about Northern Ireland and Scotland — including his meeting with SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon (http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160629/1042181533/sturgeon-juncker-eu-scotland.html) — ruffled feathers across the bloc, and were seen by Berlin as being "unnecessarily provocative."




https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/696883262304550913/2YRkBjIi_bigger.png Ivan Niccolai ‏@Ivan_niccolai (https://twitter.com/Ivan_niccolai)
#Brexit (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Brexit?src=hash), if this does not trigger self-reflection and greater democracy of EU institutions, then they must go. #JunckerResign (https://twitter.com/hashtag/JunckerResign?src=hash)!! ​"This is not a time for institutional bickering," the source added, "but the pressure for him to resign will only become greater and chancellor Merkel will eventually have to deal with this next year."

The comments aren't the first to speculate on Juncker's position as EC chief, with Czech foreign minister Lubomir Zaoralek suggesting the 61-year-old should "contemplate quitting" after the UK voted to leave the bloc.




https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/560159090286927872/7ojpbgq2_bigger.jpeg Danny Kemp Verified account ‏@dannyctkemp (https://twitter.com/dannyctkemp)
Will Juncker resign as Czech min urged? EC says as last week answer has two letters 'the first is N' ​"Right now I can't see the European Commission chairman as the right man for the job," Mr Zaoralek told local media.

"I don't want to call on anyone [to resign], but… someone in the EU maybe should contemplate quitting, because is a responsibility someone should have assumed."

Integration at Heart of EU Divide
The disagreements across the EU are based on differing opinions over continued integration in the face of growing euroskepticism (http://sputniknews.com/politics/20160630/1042203822/eu-brexit-referendums.html).

While Juncker, along with nations such as France and Belgium, have been strong proponents of further European integration, and have seen Brexit as a chance to speed up such processes, a number of other member states have rejected such ideas, with German officials arguing (http://sputniknews.com/politics/20160624/1041878370/merkel-brexit-statement.html) that a more pragmatic, less centralized approach to EU membership needs to be adopted in the wake of rising anti-EU sentiment.




https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/746732829531332612/oujEtb3P_bigger.jpg [B]Jonathan Hopkin ‏@jrhopkin (https://twitter.com/jrhopkin)
Becoming increasingly clear that the real backlash against EU integration is about movement of labour, not capital... ​A number of Eastern European member states have already expressed concern over Juncker's leadership, leading to reports Germany could team up and try and force him to step aside.

This division has also been evident in the response of various EU leaders to the UK's referendum decision to leave the EU.




https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1149385684/patrick_oflynn_bigger.jpg Patrick O'Flynn Verified account ‏@oflynnmep (https://twitter.com/oflynnmep)
Sturgeon know she must not overplay her hand. Idea of Scots voting to join the euro and much more EU integration seems rather fanciful. ​While German Chancellor Merkel has urged member states to give the UK time before triggering Brexit negotiations, others such as France have looked to place pressure on London to kick off talks sooner rather than later to avoid ongoing uncertainty.

UK government officials have argued that Article 50 (http://sputniknews.com/politics/20160630/1042210594/theresa-may-brexit-elections.html), the trigger needed to start Brexit discussions, should not be taken until either later this year or early 2017 to give officials more time to prepare for negotiations with Brussels.

[justalight]

Do "they" now try to create a myth about Junckers health?

Quote: "They also come amid Juncker’s erratic behaviour in press briefings and amid reports of his ill health."

https://euobserver.com/political/134191

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hope to get the full article into my reply but really don´t know how ... try again ...
'Germany does not want Juncker to resign'

Quote:
Juncker said at last week's summit that he "doesn't care" about the personal attacks. (Photo: consilium.europa.eu)
By ANDREW RETTMAN, ESZTER ZALAN AND ERIC MAURICE

BRUSSELS, TODAY, 18:15
“Germany does not want Juncker to resign. Full stop. It doesn’t make any sense. Full stop”, Elmar Brok, a senior MEP from the ruling CDU party of German chancellor Angela Merkel told EUobserver on Monday (4 July).
Leonie Haueisen, a spokeswoman for the centre-left SPD party in the German ruling coalition, said: “Calls from Germany for Jean-Claude Juncker’s resignation are not known to us”.


Brok (L) said it makes no sense for Juncker to step down. (Photo: European Parliament)
They spoke to EUobserver after a British newspaper, The Sunday Times, quoted a German minister, who asked to remain anonymous, as having said that Juncker’s handling of Brexit was “very damaging” and that pressure on him to step aside was becoming “greater”.

A leading conservative German newspaper, Die Welt, in an editorial last week also said: “Juncker is unsuitable to be president” of the European Commission.

The attacks, building on earlier criticism by Czech and Polish politicians, have centred on his vision that EU institutions, instead of member states, should play the leading role in European affairs.

They also come amid Juncker’s erratic behaviour in press briefings and amid reports of his ill health.

A commission spokesman, Alexander Winterstein, on Monday declined to comment directly on the issues.

He said that he was aware of the “less favourable” press coverage, but that the commission was “very busy” and “focusing on its work” of fostering economic growth and handling the migration crisis.

Judy Dempsey, a Berlin-based expert with the Carnegie Europe think-tank, said Merkel had not wanted Juncker to get the job back in 2014, but that now that he was in place it would be “too disruptive” to eject him.

“Who on earth would be interested in having even more chaos now?”, she told this website on Monday, referring to the post-Brexit chaos on the British political scene. “This is not the time … I don’t think there’s any appetite for a coup”, she said.

A contact in the centre-right EPP, the European-level party that contains Juncker and Merkel, told EUobserver that Juncker’s suitability for the post “is not a discussion in the party”.

But other EU sources believed that Merkel is merely biding her time.

“Merkel seems to be waiting for the right moment to say goodbye to Juncker. She wants to make sure she can fend off efforts by Schulz to become commission president. She wants to have a viable alternative candidate before getting rid of Juncker,” one contact said, referring to Martin Schulz, the German head of the European Parliament, who hails from the SPD party.

Schulz aside, the Dutch commission vice-president, Frans Timmermans, is also being mentioned in EU corridors as a potential Juncker replacement.

But a second EU source said that Timmermans, an outspoken critic of Hungary and Poland’s erosion of democratic standards, would never get Budapest or Warsaw’s support.

The source said that Jyrki Katainen, the commission vice-president for investment and growth, is also an option.

The source said that Katainen would be acceptable to Merkel because, as a former Finnish PM, he had executive experience and because he was a fiscal hawk who hailed from her EPP group.

Removed by parliament only
If the attacks were to intensify, Juncker’s hold on power could become politically untenable, but in terms of due process he cannot simply be removed.

According to the EU treaties, the commission president and his whole commission can only be removed from office en bloc by a vote of censure in the European Parliament (EP).

The EP has never exercised the option. In 1999, the fraud-tainted commission of Jacques Santer resigned before such a vote took place.

Meanwhile, even if Merkel had a clear idea of who to put in Juncker’s place, a reshuffle of the college of commissioners would hamper the work of the commission amid uncertainties about the good functioning of the EU after Brexit.

[ElfeMya]

[...]
The French from the video:

"Il faut savoir que ceux qui nous observent de loin sont très inquiets. J’ai vu et entendu et écouté plusieurs des dirigeants d’autres planètes qui sont très inquiets puisqu’ils s’interrogent sur la voie que l’union européenne va poursuivre. Et donc, il faut rassurer, et les européens, et ceux qui nous observent de plus… loin."
[...]

The more I listen and re-read that statement, the more it appears to be very precise in its wording and meaning:

"It must be known that those who observe us from far away are very worried. I met and heard and listened to several of the leaders from other planets who are very concerned because they wonder which path the European Union is going to follow. Hence, reassurances must be given to both the Europeans and those who observe us from much... farther away."

... because "other leaders of this planet" are not "observing from far away" since, for most, they are only a phone call away and, moreover, are active participants in European affairs, whether that be via Ukraine, Libya, Syria, Turkey, Greece, etc... those are not "observers" observing from "far away."

I agree with the members mentioning the speech was intentional, not from any teleprompters (none available) nor from directly reading notes except for the last word... after a dramatically intentional "pause" in its delivery.

The precision of that statement comes with the defining of where about those "far away" (mentioned twice) observers are looking from... and those are actually the ones being "very worried." The others are just fighting for a piece of the pie.

Totally agree with those observations. No mistake there.

[ElfeMya]

Do "they" now try to create a myth about Junckers health?

Quote: "They also come amid Juncker’s erratic behaviour in press briefings and amid reports of his ill health."

https://euobserver.com/political/134191

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hope to get the full article into my reply but really don´t know how ... try again ...
'Germany does not want Juncker to resign'


Meanwhile, even if Merkel had a clear idea of who to put in Juncker’s place, a reshuffle of the college of commissioners would hamper the work of the commission amid uncertainties about the good functioning of the EU after Brexit.

How long do you reckon before they get rid of him ?

[Daozen]

http://i.imgur.com/4Pn1w80.gif

[justalight]

Quite irritating that the mass media did not start a campaign to crush his credibility right away, I would have expected this. For sure there is a plan to get rid of him I feel.

It feels like he has to do a specific job in the near future before resigning and therefore the mass media did not crush him up to now. Somehow it feels like he is planned to do something else ...

Therefore it´s hard to replace him within a short period of time with another puppet ...

[justalight]

Some political quotations that are worth reading I think:

On Greece's economic meltdown in 2011:
"When it becomes serious, you have to lie.

On EU monetary policy:
"I'm ready to be insulted as being insufficiently democratic, but I want to be serious ... I am for secret, dark debates"

On British calls for a referendum over Lisbon Treaty:
“Of course there will be transfers of sovereignty. But would I be intelligent to draw the attention of public opinion to this fact?,”

On French referendum over EU constitution:
“If it's a Yes, we will say 'on we go', and if it's a No we will say 'we continue’,”

On the introduction of the euro:
"We decide on something, leave it lying around, and wait and see what happens. If no one kicks up a fuss, because most people don't understand what has been decided, we continue step by step until there is no turning back."

On eurozone economic policy and democracy:
“We all know what to do, we just don't know how to get re-elected after we've done it”

[ElfeMya]

http://i.imgur.com/4Pn1w80.gif

oh Daozen, this is a treat !!! Jupiter Ascending !!! Hiiihaaaaa !!!! <3 Thanks !

[norman]

I haven't kept up with where we were up to with translating the speech into english.

I asked my daughter in France. Took a while, but got something relevant back today.


........... the translation thing but I read the translation you already have and its correct except that the guy who did it didn't mention that saying 'I'm a human being' in French is equivalent to just saying 'I'm only human' in English. It's more of a turn of phrase than a protest at being human.........................

[Hervé]

I haven't kept up with where we were up to with translating the speech into english.

I asked my daughter in France. Took a while, but got something relevant back today.


........... the translation thing but I read the translation you already have and its correct except that the guy who did it didn't mention that saying 'I'm a human being' in French is equivalent to just saying 'I'm only human' in English. It's more of a turn of phrase than a protest at being human.........................

That would indeed be correct in most contexts, however, I finally found the context of why Juncker insisted on being a "human being" and not just "being human":


I am somewhat surprised. I — the man regularly described in the United Kingdom as undemocratic, an anonymous bureaucrat, a technocrat, a machine that acts, a robot — am prepared to accept the vote of the British people, but people in Britain are having great difficulty doing the same.That's from the translation (http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_SPEECH-16-2353_en.htm) of the German portion of Juncker's speech (http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_SPEECH-16-2350_fr.htm).

[norman]

errr..... wot....

That's completely different !

ok, it's beginning to sink in.

[Flash]

Hervé is correct here below. Juncker was not speaking in the context of being human only, but in the context of robotic people, machines, technocrats. He meant I am a human being, not a robot. He did not mean he is only human, as in human frailties, but he meant I am not a robot.

Juncker, what an appropriate name for the position - junk lollllllllllllllll




I haven't kept up with where we were up to with translating the speech into english.

I asked my daughter in France. Took a while, but got something relevant back today.


........... the translation thing but I read the translation you already have and its correct except that the guy who did it didn't mention that saying 'I'm a human being' in French is equivalent to just saying 'I'm only human' in English. It's more of a turn of phrase than a protest at being human.........................

That would indeed be correct in most contexts, however, I finally found the context of why Juncker insisted on being a "human being" and not just "being human":


I am somewhat surprised. I — the man regularly described in the United Kingdom as undemocratic, an anonymous bureaucrat, a technocrat, a machine that acts, a robot — am prepared to accept the vote of the British people, but people in Britain are having great difficulty doing the same.That's from the translation (http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_SPEECH-16-2353_en.htm) of the German portion of Juncker's speech (http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_SPEECH-16-2350_fr.htm).

[Inmortal719]

Well, you can't have involvement form other planets until humanity is unified in some manner. Otherwise the situation is just too damn provincial.

This is the sole reason I'm in favor of a single governmental system.

But not by the utraviolent.... or by violent underhanded means.



I paraphrased pretty much the same to a friend the other day. Humanity cannot really advance until we consider ourselves one.

As long as they try to do it by subterfuge and lies, whilst instigating more and more division and control, there is clearly a negative mindset at play.

I agree, however, this scenario seems very far away still, with ultranationalist thinking on the rise, it won't be long until either more countries follow Britain or the EU starts breaking apart, also if Trump wins things will get much more complicated for US-EU relations, a war is coming, the queston is, against who? Russia definitely doesn't seem to want any conflict at all, Russia is just hanging in there after being demonized over and over and US seems to be running out of excuses to start anything.. Maybe we will witness a free for all situation if the climate changes as quickly as it is at the moment. The melting of the ice and extreme temperatures rising every year can make things difficult for several countries forcing us to unite in order to survive..

[justalight]

Me - Trying not to think tooooooo much ..... wHylQRVN2Qs