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Aurelius
2nd July 2016, 10:31
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WhiteLove
2nd July 2016, 16:54
I'm sorry to say this, please try to understand that there is nothing real about Keshe's stuff. No verifiable equations, no verifiable physics, no verifiable data, no demos, no nothing... People have created the gadgets by design from the blueprints and nothing works. And there are people with engineering skills that easily prove that it does not work when applied to real physics.

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Aurelius
2nd July 2016, 17:55
I'm sorry to say this, please try to understand that there is nothing real about Keshe's stuff. No verifiable equations, no verifiable physics, no verifiable data, no demos, no nothing... People have created the gadgets by design from the blueprints and nothing works. And there are people with engineering skills that easily prove that it does not work when applied to real physics.


as per your posting here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91528-Pushback-Global-crime-syndicate-vs-Keshe-groups&p=1077438&viewfull=1#post1077438), the chap in this video appears to be fully competent with std electrical theory, but he has no idea how Keshe technology works. He has made at least 3 fundamental errors, hence no results.

ps. i need to make something very clear, it should be obvious to most of you, but maybe not....

never expect a situation to arise, where a revolutionary or game changer technology, that has substance behind it, that could pose a threat to big industry, such as petro, pharma, finance, aerospace etc. to appear on the scene & be partly or fully supported and endorsed by industry, academia and the mainstream media. it just ain't going to happen .. ever! if any entity, that can influence, does support or endorse such a technology, it wont be doing so for long.

in the ideal case, one needs to be astute enough to pick technologies as they appear on the scene, then evaluate them YOURSELF. even in such cases it is quite possible one's positive conclusions could be incorrect, or one's negative conclusions could also be incorrect, it all depends on the details and how well one executes them.

never accept the conclusions or findings of anyone, unless you trust them implicitly, but then keep in mind the risks mentioned in the above paragraph.

when you have a game changer technology appear on the scene, whatever it might be, believe it that everything at the disposal of the incumbents, that will be effected by such technology, will be used to gain ownership*, suppress, dis-info, mislead, hide, kill, blackmail, make it go away!

imho the only solution to this conundrum is a lot of effort must be put in at grass roots level, people experimenting themselves, sharing their successes, sharing their failures, all among trusted, serious, committed people, then in time the information will permeate across similar communities and around the globe. this is exactly what is being done in this case.

there is more than enough verifiable information, of significance, open your eyes and look for it, it's not hard to find (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtQzN7XLiLvTpyUnQAa1mRw/videos).

for those that cannot find the information & evidence: (a) shills - you have other intentions. ie. you are not really looking (b) lethargy - you are not taking the matter seriously (c) bystanders - you expect to be spoon fed ie. little or no effort on your behalf (d) insight - you are limited by your intelligence. ie. inability to correlate the information

Ernie Nemeth
2nd July 2016, 22:53
Thanks Aurelius, that's exactly what I did with Keshe's work.

Justplain
3rd July 2016, 04:20
Like, it would really help Keshe's credibility if he produced a working model someone could test. And how's about the flying car he claims to have, please give a show n tell.

Otherwise he's a waste of our time cuz no one can reproduce his claims. The rest of this conversation is just hot air.

jaybee
7th July 2016, 10:07
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The Knowledge Seekers Workshop for today, 7th July, has been postponed because a tragedy hit MT Keshe and the Keshe Foundation yesterday -


http://forum.keshefoundation.org/forum/keshe-official/announcements/54310-the-121st-knowledge-seekers-workshop-is-postponed-until-next-week-july-14-2016



The 121st Knowledge Seekers Workshop is postponed until next week July 14 2016., in memory of KF friend and employee Fabio who passed today in a car accident.

Mr Keshe says,

"To the Keshe Foundation family :

The knowledge seekers workshop of Thursday 7. 7.2016 is canceled .

We have lost one of our most precious friends FABIO in a car accident in Italy this evening .

NAOMI who was in the same car with him is in critical condition and we ask from You all to give from your soul that she can survive this accident.

We will keep a memorial for FABIO TOMORROW at 9am CET AS USUAL and there shall be no teaching ."


M T KESHE



Mr Keshe and all those close to Fabio and Naomi are in great pain and shock - and the ripples are starting to spread out from Italy as the sad news is shared -



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from a facebook group post ---


ALL ACTIVITIES AROUND KF, KFSSI AND SPACESHIP INSTITUTE ARE CLOSED UNTIL MONDAY, JULY 11th 2016 AS RESPECT FOR FABIO AND TRYING TO COPE WITH THIS LOSS OF SUCH A WONDERFUL SOUL.
Love you and your soul my son , be content with the joys you have brought to the life of those whom you have touched in your short life as many with longer time on this planet cannot ACHIEVE a fraction of what you have achieved.
Bless your soul in all realms of the creations of the creator.
Mehran Tavakoli Keshe


(i wasn't sure where to put this information but chose this thread - because of the obvious questions that will come up once the shock and pain subsides a bit --- although Mr Keshe is saying at the moment that it was an accident and asking that assumptions aren't made and just to pray for and remember Fabio and for Naomi, who is critical in hospital)

oh I don't know --- perhaps I should have put it in another thread..??

Fabio is part of the Keshe Story, though and was one of the good people --


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Johnny
8th July 2016, 00:51
The video is up again with french translation:


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Italian newspaper:

http://www.giovinazzoviva.it/notizie/incidente-sulla-16-bis-morto-un-21enne/


Johnny

Aurelius
8th July 2016, 07:56
Siamo tristi per la morte di Fabio,
era sempre un animo felice e contento.
Speriamo Naomi un recupero rapido.
Tanto amore e abbracci alle famiglie che li amano.
Sono incondizionatamente parte del lavoro significativo per liberare l'umanità - 6 giugno 2016

TargeT
8th July 2016, 17:27
Thanks Aurelius, that's exactly what I did with Keshe's work.

Ditto.. and it's funny how readers of the same material can come up with different conclusions, some of us think he's a complete scam artist (I'm coming more and more to think that way).


Like, it would really help Keshe's credibility if he produced a working model someone could test. And how's about the flying car he claims to have, please give a show n tell.

Otherwise he's a waste of our time cuz no one can reproduce his claims. The rest of this conversation is just hot air.

or just ONE anti-gravity showcase.. just one, even a video of it.. anything.

Ernie Nemeth
11th July 2016, 15:20
Maybe, just maybe - maybe all of those who believe in Keshe will by sheer will alone manifest FE. They work on it, talk about it, live it. It could be that by this method alone, FE will manifest.

But Keshe himself has nothing or there would be slick half hour videos with good sound and full of information and step-by-step production methods that lead to working models.

Johnny
12th July 2016, 00:03
Maybe, just maybe - maybe all of those who believe in Keshe will by sheer will alone manifest FE. They work on it, talk about it, live it. It could be that by this method alone, FE will manifest.


LOL! Something like: Would a tree falling in a forest where no witnesses are, making a sound ? And the answer is: Yes and No !



But Keshe himself has nothing or there would be slick half hour videos with good sound and full of information and step-by-step production methods that lead to working models.

That would be wonderful if he did, but I think, it would be deleted from the internet, and he would be dead before sunrise, but I also think we are close to it, even people will not grasp it, but what the heck,

how many understand how a refrigerator works in every detail.

Remember it is not only free energy. One can do/undo anything with plasma + consciousness (if one dare :) ), what you call believe.

The refrigerator was invented by getting the idea putting different 'things' together, which already had been invented and/or discovered, but if there had been no believe behind the idea, the device would not had been invented.

Most people at that time probably also wanted proof, that it would function, before they would believe it.

The plasma technology is a 'bit' different :) , it is understanding about how the the universe function, from plasma to matter and from matter to plasma, and not less we as humans witnesses consciousness function.

Plasma itself is total neutral, but plasma can be more or less compacted. (Most compacted is probably what we call 'black holes', (from matter to plasma)), so the problem is to 'release' the plasma. Maybe more about that

another day :)


cheers Johnny :)

TargeT
12th July 2016, 00:55
how many understand how a refrigerator works in every detail.


I do, it's not that complicated. most of the energy is consumed by a compressor which basically compresses freon so that it can later release it (as gasses expand from a liquid they take up a lot of heat) then on the inside there are (depending on the type) one or more temp sensors, a fan & ducting from the "Freezer" side (where a manifold of sorts is for the gas to expand) to the "non-freezer" side.

I have 3 fridges and all of them are from the 1980's.. I've repaired them myself because these things can (for the most part) take a power surge and bugs crawling on their controller boards won't short them out (unlike my "new expensive fridge" which is now just a spice cabinet)

And just like the fridge you don' t understand, yet I do... I'll tell you that Keshe has nothing there; nothing at all. AND the "buzzwords" and "terms" he uses make people seem a bit silly "something nano-coats" the wires of your entire house... via what method again?

Johnny
12th July 2016, 01:28
how many understand how a refrigerator works in every detail.


I do, it's not that complicated. most of the energy is consumed by a compressor which basically compresses freon so that it can later release it (as gasses expand from a liquid they take up a lot of heat) then on the inside there are (depending on the type) one or more temp sensors, a fan & ducting from the "Freezer" side to the "non-freezer" side.

I have 3 fridges and all of them are from the 1980's.. I've repaired them myself because these things can (for the most part) take a power surge and bugs crawling on their controller boards won't short them out (unlike my "new expensive fridge" which is now just a spice cabinet)

And just like the fridge you don' t understand, yet I do... I'll tell you that Keshe has nothing there; nothing at all. AND the "buzzwords" and "terms" he uses make people seem a bit silly "something nano-coats" the wires of your entire house... via what method again?


And just like the fridge you don' t understand

Did I wrote that, no i didn't !!! :) Now I understand why you don't understand Keshe and the plasma technology :)

OK, fun aside, do not hang yourself in what you call buzzwords and terms, try to understand the universe and life, not from what you have been told, but from yourself (inner beeing), and if you still do not understand it,

then you know where to start. :)

Do you think that Keshe's buzzwords and terms made me to understand it, no ! he 'just' put the words on to what I understood, but had no words for, and I examine it still.

Has he (Keshe) everything he says in the right place, I do not know, but I know (from my inner knowingness) that the plasma concept is correct.

Cheers Johnny :)

Aurelius
29th July 2016, 15:06
watch from the 35min mark for a few minutes: http://livestream.com/KFSSI/events/5758705/videos/131276150


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Aurelius
1st August 2016, 10:08
re-posting here:


ANNOUNCEMENT: Keshe to make birthday gift to mankind, August 2nd

By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor on July 31, 2016

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/07/31/announcement-keshe-to-make-birthday-gift-to-mankind-august-2nd/

Ask everyone around the world and your leaders to listen to the 126th Knowledge Seekers Workshop, which will be Tuesday August 2nd 2016 at 10 am CEST (1 am Pacific).

The workshop is called “THE BEGINNING”.

“ALL will understand, why you were born, and what is about to happen to military, governments and the citizens of this planet, as of that day.”
M.T. Keshe

“The 2/8/2016 is the Birthday of Mehran Tavakoli Keshe. This teaching is a gift to mankind on his birthday.”
Carolina De Roose

Please spread the word!

Livestream at:
http://livestream.com/KFSSI/events/5758705

Knowledge Seekers Workshops Zoom Meetings are held at:
https://spaceshipinstitute.zoom.us/j/939474503

Youtube Streaming channel:
http://www.youtube.com/c/KeshefoundationOrg/live

Aurelius
2nd August 2016, 12:41
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