Bill and Kerry in conversation on Kerrys radio show - Friday 10 December

[Bill Ryan]

Click here:

http://www.argusoogradio.org

Also on http://justin.tv

Until 1 pm PST Friday 10 December.

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Update: now just finished. Archived here. (http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Ryan_Kerry_Cassidy_radio_show_10_Dec_2010.mp3) Was a lot of fun... we'll continue it in a few weeks' time.

Before that, there's the Avalon live chat with myself, on Tuesday 14 December, 3:55 pm PST (6:55 pm EST).

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?8411-Avalon-Live-Chat-with-Bill-Ryan-Revisited

And soon after that, Kerry, David Wilcock, Richard Hoagland and myself are doing a 4 person teleconference on Sunday 19 December - subject: Disclosure - at 2 pm PST (5 pm EST), details of which I'll post soon.

[HURRITT ENYETO]

Thanks mate, listening now.

[Ammit]

Can this be heard on shortwave??? any one know the frequency of the broadcast?. be nice to know because im off out soon and could continue to listen..

[Scott]

Cool conversation, very interesting.
This might even help PA members come up with questions for Bill's Live chat on Tuesday.

[Fredkc]

http://fredsitelive.com/images/post/bump2.jpg

Live now.

[Zook]

Cool conversation, very interesting.
This might even help PA members come up with questions for Bill's Live chat on Tuesday.

Well, I know what I'm doing for the next few weeks. The garage. I'm gonna hole up and build me a free energy device!

LOL! :jester:

[Harley]

VERY GOOD BILL!

THANK YOU!

Harley

[Fredkc]

Ok... once there is an archive link... first one sees it, please post here.

[shiva777]

personally I don't take what ANY insider says too seriously as there are so many factors and parties involved...at MULTIDIMENSIONAL LEVELS...that the plans and agenda's of any specific earthly group,no matter how confident they are of knowing what the "plans" are,really DON"T KNOW what plans will be that will be PLAYED OUT AND implemented...there are SO MANY possibilitiesd/probabliities/parites involved that it's a very NOW moment type thing...everything can change in an instant and it's very POMPOUS to believe that you have the inside "scoop" or plans on what will happen in the near future,some "insiders" may have a better idea of the CURRENT plan for a particular FACTION of TPTB but they IN NO WAY can know what all the MANY other FACTIONS have planned..and MOST IMPORTANTLY if they are unaware of the true puppet masters,which exist in MULTIDIMENSIONAL levels ,then they are themselves just puppets on a string...this is why I find project Camelot'Avalon and Bill and Kerry's opinions and info much less seriously than they themselves do and many of their followers do...it's interesting but they are splashing around just a little deeper than the surface level swimmers are,,,the REAL actions are being taken by those who understand spirtual realities at very DEEP levels and who have awakened their higher spiritual capacities and abilities to READ the current situation of the struggles being played out at deep levels..

Bill and Kerry are doing great work of opening people's minds to possibilities and hidden realities but it's also very limited in it's ability to know what is coming in the near future...which timeline we will choose as a race...when you see things from a different paradigm you see such "insider" info from a very different lens...if you think that there is just one or 2 factions in TPTB and you don't see that they are controlled by OFF WORLD forces that are fighting amongst themselves for control of earth..and that fight continues...then you will take the "insider" info much more seriously than I do...I enjoy the monkey-mind theorising though and mulling over the many possibilites that Bill and Kerry share..what determines humanities future is our ability to influence things at the deeper levels where the TRUE battle for humanities future is determined.

[Ahkenaten]

Good broadcast Bill and Kerry! Ahk

[Bill Ryan]

...which timeline we will choose as a race

Exactly... this is critical. The future is not predetermined.

[Carmody]

If it was two hours, I only caught the second hour. I'll be looking for that archive link.

I've also been nagging myself and even friends that its well past time to get back (or for the first time) that green thumb. One that can grow anything -indoors or outdoors. Under any conditions. In my case, thankfully, I just have to remember my childhood, which had a lot of green in it.

Indoors and outdoors..for if they talk about flipping the switch, which the food bill in the US is quite obviously part of that...then proper air, nutrients and soils will be difficult to obtain. Get them now!

For example, I'm in a business where the odd chemical is supplied to the company. I've noted that there is considerable tightening going on around the supply and chemical supply channels. And to top it off almost very chemical nutrient that one thinks they need to feed a plant is on a list for making explosives. We are talking about high pH materials, which are basically..fertilizer.

Everything concerning food is moving into place, they are getting closer to the point where they just need to flip the switches. IF..they get to that point.. then.. the whole thing goes 'military' (civil unrest/terrywrists!). So..if it is military control, or the paranoid police state of self created (grabastic) fascism, then you have limited or no access to those sort of chemicals.

The key switch flips may be 'out of the blue' crop failures, tied to weather, which would be, possibly, the disturbance of the weather due to gulf flow issues. Then this new plant plague, which JUST appeared in wheat in Idaho or the like. It is purple in color and sounds like a species jump from this fungus or bacteria that has shown up in what was it..Washington state?


This whole thing is very Stalinesque. Very Holodomor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

[Fredkc]

Well, I know what I'm doing for the next few weeks. The garage. I'm gonna hole up and build me a free energy device!
Funny.
I did that once.
Wasn't in the Energy Dept. but I wrote a software system that dealt with agricultural and livestock safety.

And I'm talking a near-complete system, with layered access to the data. Using a combination of investors and Univ. grants, we even operated the system for a full year, proving it worked.
People like ADM, Con-Agra, Cattlemen's Associations, and even Growers all loved the system!

We were even willing to be 'bought out'. By that I mean, my partner and I were perfectly willing to take $5 million apiece to quietly go away.

We made it as far as a meeting with said people, a few Congressmen, and a Senator to discuss legislation to get the system implemented. Everyone smiled at us, and said they couldn't wait to do it. Then, in the meeting after the meeting, it was decided it was cheaper to make sure it never came about, via legislation, than it was to pay us to finish it, and go away.

And that is why none of you have ever heard of AgDataOne.com (http://agdataone.com/) ;)
Fred
(not just another pretty face)

[truthseekerdan]

...which timeline we will choose as a race...

I'm focusing my attention and intention on the timeline of, Love, compassion, peace and harmony.
That's where I want to BE part of this humanity's, paradigm shift...:nod: :love:

Namaste ~ Dan

[Bill Ryan]

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Archived here. (http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Ryan_Kerry_Cassidy_radio_show_10_Dec_2010.mp3)

(1 hr 36 mins, 63 Mb)

[Ross]

Thanks Bill...as I was asleep during the show I can now listen:happy:

[BrianEn]

Thanks Bill...as I was asleep during the show I can now listen:happy:

Ditto. I was having quite the snooze.

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Many thanks Bill

[Zook]

Funny.
I did that once.
Wasn't in the Energy Dept. but I wrote a software system that dealt with agricultural and livestock safety.
And I'm talking a near-complete system, with layered access to the data. Using a combination of investors and Univ. grants, we even operated the system for a full year, proving it worked.
People like ADM, Con-Agra, Cattlemen's Associations, and even Growers all loved the system!
We were even willing to be 'bought out'. By that I mean, my partner and I were perfectly willing to take $5 million apiece to quietly go away.


For five measly million dollars? Let's see, in Zimbabwe - just after that excuse for a nation went belly up - I believe three million Zimbobs got you a coke. The rest got you busfare. I wonder how many megabucks will be needed for a cup of coffee after they pull the green off the greenback (leaving a dull splotchy grey)? You know you can't function without coffee, Fred! I would've held out for an amount closer to the purchase price of a coffee shop.



We made it as far as a meeting with said people, a few Congressmen, and a Senator to discuss legislation to get the system implemented. Everyone smiled at us, and said they couldn't wait to do it. Then, in the meeting after the meeting, it was decided it was cheaper to make sure it never came about, via legislation, than it was to pay us to finish it, and go away.
And that is why none of you have ever heard of AgDataOne.com (http://agdataone.com/) ;)
Fred
(not just another pretty face)

Look on the bright side, Fred ... you got to help start Avalon and listen to idjuts like myself natter on about 9/11/2001! LOL! Maybe a brewery. Btw, when were you ever a face, let alone a pretty face? If I hadn't seen that picture of you as a young boy (that you once posted), I'd say you were born with a thick one on. Haahahha hah.

:jester:

ps: Btw, I hope Avalonians didn't get the impression that I could be bought, you know, when I joked about building a free energy device (for the ostensibly purposes of pocketing a five-stack of fiat paper). Like Kerry in the radio interview, I can't be bought. (But I can be tempted! LOL!). Seriously, I've long ago made my peace with the material world. I won't mortgage my eternal spiritual space for any amount of ephemeral pleasure or size of cheque. Though I'm not averse to buying a yacht if I ever make enough money in my own honest way (e.g. cartooning, writing, etc.). You may say that I'm a dreamer ... but I'm not the only one (Lennon).

[Redtailhawk]

This is a fantastic chat between you two; I look so forward to hearing more about this new contact of yours Bill.

[astrid]

SO great to hear you two together again, looking forward to the encore!!

Excellent show!!

[Hughe]

Sequence driven event not calendar driven!!

Bill nails on it.

Thank you.

[Luke]

We made it as far as a meeting with said people, a few Congressmen, and a Senator to discuss legislation to get the system implemented. Everyone smiled at us, and said they couldn't wait to do it. Then, in the meeting after the meeting, it was decided it was cheaper to make sure it never came about, via legislation, than it was to pay us to finish it, and go away.
And that is why none of you have ever heard of AgDataOne.com
Fred
(not just another pretty face)
For five measly million dollars? Let's see, in Zimbabwe - just after that excuse for a nation - went belly up, I believe three million Zimbobs got you a coke. The rest you got you busfare. I wonder how many megabucks will be needed for a cup of coffee after they pull the green off the greenback (leaving a dull splotchy grey)? You know you can't function without coffee, Fred! I would've held out for an amount closer to the purchase price of a coffee shop.

You have to consider power bit.

If you show something can be really changed, you are provoking other people to do the same. Saw the data once that claimed 10% of population are capable of active entrepreneurship .. always figuring out things small and large ... if you let them loose, they will change the face of the earth ASAP.

Half of those will be content with cash and plot of land in Ecquador .. those are easy.

Those who would use the cash to create even bigger system-changing thing are real problem, that need to be confined. No cash and "wolf's ticket" AND making damn sure he never gets the money to implement his part.

Then there is third kind - those drove by power .. to which business is just excuse .. those are groomed and taken in higher up.

That is why there will be never, ever breakthrough within the system that will undermine it's power structure. That includes free energy, disclosure, interplanetary travel and other interesting bits.
But sometimes, faction wars create chinks in the armour that one can use to push through to other side .. and this is the timing part.
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Thanks Bill for interview ! :)

[Ross]

Great post Luke.

Thats how I see it.

[Bill Ryan]

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One listener wrote in to ask:

Have you guys ever witnessed a working free energy device?

Last weekend I visited my friend Thomas Kirschner, the editor of the German NEXUS magazine (http://nexus-magazin.de).

To my astonishment, as soon as I arrived he led me down to his basement and showed me a working Bedini machine. He's started to run courses training people how to make them.

http://nexus-magazin.de/index/nexus-seminar-impuls-technologie-in-der-praxis

This thing really works (though don't ask me how). In the simplest possible terms, it uses a battery to turn a wheel in which fixed magnets rotate past specially designed copper coils. This induces current which then charges a larger battery. You get out more than you put in.

Thomas's layman's explanation was that each time the field of one of the rotating magnets passes one of the copper coils, it [sort of] "opens a 'gate' into the zero point, grabs a bit of energy, then closes the gate again". (Interestingly, the machine produces more output when it's rotating at medium speed than when it's spinning really fast).

Avalon member Carmody may be able to explain a little better than I can. :)

References:

The original Bedini websites:


http://potentialtec.com (John Bedini's partner Rick Friedrich)
http://energenx.com (John Bedini's brother)

Two YouTube videos (also embedded below)


http://youtube.com/watch?v=nA2KtZ45nXA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yi7cmUpMdX8 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=VYtUL8OU7s4)

http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Ryan_John_Bedini_free_energy_generator_1.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Ryan_John_Bedini_free_energy_generator_2.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA2KtZ45nXA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi7cmUpMdX8

[Erin]

Just finished listening to the conversation. It definitely covered a lot of ground and I hope you guys do it again sometime. I'd really like to know more about the guy who contacted you (Bill) regarding Colonel X/Anthony Sanchez/UFO Highway, since I read the book and have been following the story with great interest.

ETA: Oh! And I totally forgot to mention that I found it extremely telling that Julian Assange contacted Project Camelot back in early 2010. I'd be interested to know more about that exchange, especially in light of the recent "UFOs are mentioned in the cablegate docs" thing.

[Louis]

Thanks a lot Bill for the info and the links about this free energy device. Very interesting ! :thumb:

[Zook]

Good morning Luke, the Sun shines hello!


You have to consider power bit.
If you show something can be really changed, you are provoking other people to do the same. Saw the data once that claimed 10% of population are capable of active entrepreneurship .. always figuring out things small and large ... if you let them loose, they will change the face of the earth ASAP.
Half of those will be content with cash and plot of land in Ecquador .. those are easy.
Those who would use the cash to create even bigger system-changing thing are real problem, that need to be confined. No cash and "wolf's ticket" AND making damn sure he never gets the money to implement his part.
Then there is third kind - those drove by power .. to which business is just excuse .. those are groomed and taken in higher up.
That is why there will be never, ever breakthrough within the system that will undermine it's power structure. That includes free energy, disclosure, interplanetary travel and other interesting bits.
But sometimes, faction wars create chinks in the armour that one can use to push through to other side .. and this is the timing part.
---
Thanks Bill for interview ! :)

Excellent analysis! Spot on. Which is why anything that we see being promoted by the system, e.g. technology, knowledge, etc. ... even rebellion (e.g. Wikileaks), is by design controlled. If it is controlled it cannot pose a threat to the power structure of the system. Chinks in the armor, if real, are a tool that can be used by the slaves to crush the system. If not, they merely create a breach big enough to give false hope for the slaves, who upon drawing closer to crush the system, are crushed themselves by the united factions.

Question begs ... are there real chinks in the armor? Or are the dueling factions holding truce (with each other) so that the giant NWO pyramid can establish itself?

:typing:

[yaksuit]

the Anglo-Saxon mission makes a lot of sense if the agendas are sequenced based.
Thanks Bill you keep us on our toes :)

[shadowstalker]

I am more psychic then I thought, I have heard this interview before, it's weird how i do that

[Teakai]

I finished listening to it yesterday - one thing in particular that poked at me uncomfortably was this - and I'm only pointing it out in case Bill is reading and in case he feels it might be something to consider:

At the 1.20 Kerry wonders if maybe Bill's contact isn't using his ego to get to him.

then at the 1.27 mark Bill says that the contact says " WE (not 'they' revealing he still considers himself a part of them) can't deal with you the way WE deal with other people because you have nothing....."
And Bill says he takes that as a compliment.

As Scooby Doo would say - "Ruh roh"

[Daft Ada]

Very good thanks Bill

[str8thinker]

Link to Mr X's interview on the old Project Camelot website as mentioned in the chat:

http://projectcamelot.org/mr_x.html

Wade Frazier's interview:
http://projectcamelot.org/wade_frazier.html

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