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KiwiElf

25th July 2016, 13:44

Star Trek: Discovery will be the next Trek TV series

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/star-trek-discovery-new-ship-tv-series-name

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Published on Jul 24, 2016

A look at U.S.S. Discovery, the newest ship in the Star Trek universe, on its test flight. Star Trek: Discovery premieres on Netflix in January 2017.

Star Trek's impending return to television has been given a new name, along with revealing the first glimpse of the main starship
By Matt Kamen

1 hour ago

The full series name for the upcoming Star Trek TV series has been revealed, along with the first look at the new starship that will grace the show.

The series, which was first announced in November 2015, will be known as Star Trek: Discovery when it debuts in January 2017. Each episode will debut on Netflix in the UK within 24 hours of its US broadcast, it has been confirmed.

The reveal was made at a Star Trek 50th anniversary panel at San Diego Comic-Con, where showrunner Bryan Fuller also revealed the show would be arc-based rather than episodic. This shift in narrative structure is largely because the series will be shown via streaming platforms - CBS All Access in the US and Canada, and Netflix internationally. This lets the creators structure stories "like a novel", as they won't need to worry about viewers missing episodes.

The series will be set in the prior television series continuity, rather than the divergent timeline created in the JJ Abrams' directed 2009 cinematic reboot. It has also been confirmed to run for a 13-episode first season.

Fuller was joined on the panel by Trek alumni William Shatner, Michael Dorn, Brent Spiner, Jeri Ryan, and Scott Bakula, where they discussed the original series' enduring legacy and the importance of its promise of an optimistic future for humanity, particularly in light of current world events.

"We're in a time now where identity is under attack," Deadline quotes Spiner. "It's disturbing [...] Politicians could learn from Star Trek."

"Individuality should be celebrated. Star Trek celebrates diversity," added Fuller. "It seems like a great statement from Gene Roddenberry, who felt the human race just has to get along."

"The new series has to remind audiences the message of Star Trek — continuing to push boundaries," Fuller continued. "We do have to celebrate a progression of our species because right now we need a little help."
Credit CBS Television / Netflix

For hardcore Trekkers, the new 'Test Flight' teaser above will also be notable for revealing the full designation of the new ship. Meet the USS Discovery NCC-1031 - a starcraft quite unlike any headline Star Trek ship we've seen before.

The vessel, which bears similarities to Star Wars designer Ralph McQuarrie's early concept art for a reimagined USS Enterprise - once planned for a Star Trek: Planet of the Titans movie that was cancelled in favour of the original Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Gone are the traditional slender body and distinct warp drive nacelles; in comes a flat, triangular lower body that, probably not coincidentally, looks an awful lot like the Star Trek insignia.

Don't fret if you're not immediately in love with the design though - TrekMovie.com quotes series producer Heather Kadin as saying it's not necessarily final.

"The concepts of the ship are totally what we're going for and they'll be honed up until, I think, the day we deliver," Kadin says.

The pilot of Star Trek: Discovery will be directed by David Semel, and premiere globally in January. Cast and characters have yet to be revealed.

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On a side note, the latest STAR TREK movie, Star Trek Beyond, has opened this weekend around the world to overall positive reviews and grossed almost $60 million for the weekend. Have seen it myself (I'm a Trekker and am probably biased :p). Thoroughly enjoyed it and seems more "Star Trekkie" than the previous two, with touching tributes to the late actors Leonard Nimoy and Anton Yelchin (and in fact the whole original cast of STAR TREK). Mr Sulu is revealed as being gay (another STAR TREK first and positive nod to the original actor, George Takei). Lots of humour, action and amazing special fx. Even if you're not a fan, you'll probably enjoy it. Yup, I think the best of the three so far, but like I said, I'm probably biased ;) - KE

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downliner

25th July 2016, 22:04

I think without Rodenberry to write or direct anymore it will just be like Enterprise where Scott Bakula is always trying to get his end away with his second in command. Ugh. TNG still remains the most influential Star Trek in my opinion.

A lot of TNG contained messages on human history for example the episode with the 2 gods Musaka and Corgano turned out to be the freemasons teachings about religion referring to the light and darkness with Musaka as the Sun and Corgano as the darkness.

Also the early episodes where the crew rescue 3 people from the 21st century by unfreezing them showed that one of them was a businessman not interest in the progress of humanity to the point where money no longer plays a part and neither does the accumulation of wealth. He is more interested in how much his stock is worth after laying off his entire workforce prior to freezing whereas the other one of the three is more saddened by the fact all her loved ones are no longer alive. Then we have the final person who was regarded as a celebrity who loves the new humanity era and wants to contribute. Typical of todays generation aside from the celebrity angle of course!

If you are an avid Star Trek fan you would've already figured out that the Ferenghi's are a de-evolved version of human with a lust for backstabbing and gold pressed latinum. Very much like the century we live in right now.

On another note if you are looking for hidden messages in media then you should watch Season 3 of Lexx with the two planets Fire and Water. Excellent season. Honestly though if you have never seen Lexx you should start at the beginning because there are loads of messages. A quick example is a planet where there are only men and they are strict religious people until the crew of the Lexx lands on their planet and one of the crew is an attractive woman. Overnight the whole male society is destroyed with emotions and the entire religion collapses.

If you need or want to contribute more examples then please reply or leave a comment :)

Justplain

25th July 2016, 22:52

Where i have been disappointed with Star Trek is that it portrays Earth humans as running the federation in a galaxy filled mostly with life forms less developed than them. I never understood how the Vulcans could end up as side-kicks to Earth humans in the federation. Only the occassional hint was made of higher intelligence out there, like when, in the original series, a war between the klingons and federation was halted by a race of super-psychic beings. Also, an episode in the original series showed a young human who had been raised by advanced psychic beings couldnt adapt to life with humans because of immaturity and too much psychic power.

However, these advanced beings were always portrayed as being isolated and small in number.

If hollywood, and the public in general, could ever go through the head stretching exercise to realize that we are the new, juvenile kids on the galactic block, and that there are oodles of species out there who have been space faring for likely millions of years, with accompanying advancements in consciousness so far beyond our own. We would never be the head honcho in a galactic organization in millions of years, unless its just of our own colonies.

For instance, recognizing that Earth has been visited by aliens for millions of years would be a start. Not to mention inter-dimensional visitors.

From the ufo literature, i gather that the variety of extraterrestrials is wide. Some species work as a collective with individuals having no ability to make decisions on there own (some types of greys). Others, like the Pliaedians are humanoid, each is uniquely individual, and they have mastered psychic powers beyond our imagination. Then there are reptilians, mantids, catpeople, dogpeople, avions, etc. Apparently there's also a major contingent of artificial intelligence beings out there.

Also, some of these alien life forms are hostile to us. The soviet smrsh book of alien races identified a number of the known alien species visiting Earth are hostile. One can only speculate why the hostile ones havent overrun us, or perhaps they have.

So, i know Star Trek was cutting edge in the sixties, but it would be good if they caughtup with the current info out there. Might humble us a bit, too.

xion

26th July 2016, 00:09

I hope this isn't the final product. It looks very amateurish.
Looks like some bad game intro from the 2000.
Even SG-1 had better SFX.

KiwiElf

26th July 2016, 02:26

WARNING - Nerdy stuff: Yeah, not quite wrapped on the Discovery's design at this point. I'd prefer to see slimmer and curved nacelle supports slightly raised up, but as they said, the design will be tweaked.

Rumour has it that the new stories will be set some time after Kirk's last full crew mission (ie ST# 6 - The Undiscovered Country) but before The Next Generation time period.

DeDukshyn

26th July 2016, 02:50

KiwiElf

26th July 2016, 03:50

DeDukshyn

26th July 2016, 15:50

I hope this isn't the final product. It looks very amateurish.
Looks like some bad game intro from the 2000.
Even SG-1 had better SFX.

I think the whole thing might be animated ... like the Star Wars "Rebels" series. Style looks very similar ...

As far as I know, it will use real actors - the SFX will be cgi

If so, that won't mesh well with that CGI :) (as shown) ... however that clip could be just a design concept - not nearly a full effort is put into those due to cost / timing constraints.

BMJ

26th July 2016, 16:03

DeDukshyn

26th July 2016, 22:57

The Discovery looks like a space Edsel or a Klingon cruiser in drag, to chunky and Utilitarian.
Back to the drawing board boys stick to what works or contract Adrian Newey to sort out the design he should be able merge aesthetics and function successfully within the parameters of what a star fleet vessel should be like.

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Newey

Call me crazy, I like the look. I assume this is a hardy deep space / scout type vessel hearkening back to old school types of design ... perhaps shortly after "Enterprise" time period?

Here's a good article on the topic ... http://io9.gizmodo.com/everything-the-discovery-can-tell-us-about-the-new-star-1784257704

CBS merely announced the name of the upcoming Star Trek TV series, and gave us the briefest glimpse of its titular ship, the Discovery. What could it possibly reveal about the show? Well, if you’re a Star Trek nerd like we are, it can tell you a lot—including when in the timeline the series might take place.

The Discovery is pretty obviously based on Ralph McQuarrie’s design of the Enterprise for the never-made Star Trek: Planet of the Titans. Here’s the Discovery:
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/cf8fgpxxywkdgesyipwl.PNG

And here’s McQuarrie’s design:

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--MF0VCer0--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/evma8naqw1zkmjfthkfb.jpg

Star Trek: Discovery executive producer Bryan Fuller was asked how much the Discovery was influenced by this design, and his answer was that it was “to a point that we can’t legally comment on it until we figure out some things.” So maybe the design of the ship will change between now and when the show actually comes out—in fact, executive producer Heather Kadin has said that this design isn’t final.

But, assuming the ship stays the fundamentally the same, there are some interesting details to note. First is that there were actual models produced based on McQuarrie’s designs. And, even though Planet of the Titans was never made, the models have shown up in Star Trek.

According to Memory Alpha, the Star Trek canon wiki, one of the models turns up in Star Trek III: The Search For Spock, docked near the Enterprise. Another one made an appearance in the Next Generation episode “Unification I.” Both of them are supposedly also in the rubble of the Borg attack at Wolf 359 in “Best of Both Worlds, Part II.

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apokalypse

27th July 2016, 10:32

why these space ship on TV rectangular type of shape that especially fly only forward? My spaceship could be like roundshap(UFO) able to go UP-Down-Left-Right-Forward-Backward.

I'm watching TNG right now and have to say increadible..some of the episode are amazing...Just watched this Episode, Star Trek-TNG S04E15

Captain Picard and his crew are about to engage in one of their more dangerous exercises when they are to make first contact with the Malcorians. They are on the cusp of developing warp power and the Federation has learned that it is better to make first contact before they set off into space. The Federation has had an advance team on the planet for some time posing as Malcorians. Commander Riker is one of them, on the planet to make final arrangements. Unbeknown to Picard, Riker is in hospital having been severely injured in a riot. Picard and Counselor Troi make contact with scientist Mirasta Yale, responsible for the warp program who is enthusiastic at what they propose. Not all Malcorians however welcome contact and the planet's leader, Chancellor Durken, must decide to what extent his people are prepared to learn definitively that they are not alone in the universe.
Stream: http://vodlocker.com/rapwdhnud1j3

DeDukshyn

27th July 2016, 15:52

why these space ship on TV rectangular type of shape that especially fly only forward? My spaceship could be like roundshap(UFO) able to go UP-Down-Left-Right-Forward-Backward.

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The way a warp drive works partly dictates the ships shapes in the Star Trek world. The warp drive can only propel the ship in one direction, and it needs offset nacelles away from the main body of the craft to prevent the warp drive from tearing it apart when warp is engaged (it bends space -- no part of the ship can be within that space between the nacelles). the engineering part houses the main reactor, and in the case of this design just happens to be large and triangular as opposed to cylindrical or another shape. The saucer section is living and entertainment quarters and houses the main bridge as well. Many of these style ships can separate their saucer section and this process leaves basically a battleship, while non-critical staff and citizens can escape safely in the saucer (hopefully).

The main reason for a triangular type of design on the engineering section in my mind would be cost to engineer and build. If it is more a military style ship -- it wouldn't be flashy with sexy curves everywhere unless that was somehow functional. If you need to make 20 of these ships, you find ways to reduce costs. The triangular version seems much more military style to me.

Sure the later Enterprise broke those guidelines but it IS the flagship and there is only one in commission at a time I believe - they can spare a few bucks for luxury for that one.

Also notice that the shape has uncannily similar angles to the star trek logo itself - I'm sure this was no accident :)

KiwiElf

27th July 2016, 16:20

LOL - when Matt Jefferies designed the original ENTERPRISE model for the first pilot, the design was intended to be upside down relative to what we see now, ie the saucer was at the lowest level with the engineering section above it & the nacelles below ;) And umm yes, they can go in reverse. There are several episodes of the original series and STTNG where they order "full reverse").

That essentially became the "look" with variations spun off that, evolving more into the elongated saucer section of Voyager and the Enterprise E, the "last" (or latest) design of the series we see in First Contact through to Nemesis. So the new Discovery sort of "fits" the original design theme. (Gawd, this is getting geeky! - I seriously don't think any of them would actually work!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise_%28NCC-1701%29

Here's a great website dedicated to the subject and you can look at almost every spaceship designed in the STAR TREK universe :)

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/

KiwiElf

27th July 2016, 18:53

The USS ENTERPRISE Design Evolves

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Where it all began - from the original (at the top, designed by Matt Jeffries for the original TV Series), to the refitted model in the original STAR TREK Movies 1-4 (middle image - which includes the ENTERPRISE NCC-1701A, a brand new refinement of the refit, movies 4-6).

The lower model is the current "newbie" as depicted in the J. J. Abrams movies "alternate Kelvin Timeline" - substantially larger than the original (SPOILER ALERT: This one gets completely destroyed in STAR TREK BEYOND).

(NOTE: These 3 pics are only the Enterprise's commanded by Captain James T. Kirk (in both timelines), and don't include the Enterprise B-E variations ;))

DeDukshyn

27th July 2016, 20:16

KiwiElf

28th July 2016, 03:22

.... And umm yes, they can go in reverse. There are several episodes of the original series and STTNG where they order "full reverse").

That's with the separate weak impulse engines only -- the warp drive can only go one direction, and I wrote it properly :)

(Gawd, this is getting geeky! - I seriously don't think any of them would actually work!)

You'd be surprised at the sheer amount logic and engineering thought that went into these original ship designs.

LOL Uhhuh, I gotcha ;) ... (as we're only talking sci-fi here)... there would seem to be some debate on the reversing issue (links below) :) to clarify, they are capable of moving in a backward/reverse direction (actually, x, y & z) at limited speed using thrusters or impulse power (I didn't say "at Reverse Warp speed":p hehehe), the extracted quote below explains it better ...and ahhh no, I'm not surprised at all; as a life-long Trekker I'm well aware Roddenberry went to great pains to ensure the science in STAR TREK was as accurate as possible ... in all areas ;) :sun:

http://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/39014/how-fast-can-the-galaxy-class-starships-go-in-reverse

https://www.reddit.com/r/startrek/comments/24arhp/how_do_starships_have_reverse_impulse/

from the above link
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Using my experience in the US Navy, since Roddenberry was fond of naval ships, perhaps his goal was to consider Federation ships in a similar fashion. Most Navy ships are capable of reverse thrust, used to get into and out of port but this is a very limited capacity. These speeds tended to top out at 1/8 to 1/4 of the ship's maximum forward thrust.

These commands would sound like: "All back full." "All back 1/2" "Back 1/4" indicating how much thrust would be expected to be expended on reversing power. In most cases, this would amount to about 2 - 8 knots top speed (a man could run faster).

Given that most of the design specifications barely seem to consider adding thruster mechanisms of any kind, it would appear obvious thrusters were not considered by the show's designers, who wanted to create visibly elegant ships that were as far away from our bulky rocket-engine-driven designs of ships as possible.

...and for example, check out the original series, where they had to reverse away from the spinning cube in the Corbomite Manuever, and when the Enterprise reversed out of Space Dock in The Search for Spock
... and more (apologies, the narrator of this video is possibly drunk or stoned,.. or just "strange" ;))

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Okay, enough geekdom, before I suffer the Wrath of Khan ooops, I meant ...the Wrath of ... other Trekkers :)

DeDukshyn

28th July 2016, 03:45

KiwiElf

28th July 2016, 04:09

Yeah, I missed it (your exact wording) first time... I do get ya! :) I was answering apokalypse's ideas of "multi-directional movement" :o:nerd::p

Roddenberry's initial brief for the ENTERPRISE "look" was simply that he didn't want it to look like a conventional rocketship: it had to be different, huge, but believable. Some of the initial design sketches had a sphere instead of a saucer-section (which did eventually get used as a hospital ship in ST TNG) :)
They all look pretty cool! (But then I think Fireball XL5 & Thunderbird 3 look cool too! LOL :))

(Since we're diverging wayyy off topic here, I kinda liked the saucer-shaped C-57D spaceship in the old classic film, Forbidden Planet which was very STAR TREK-IE in format (same art designer for the Jupiter 2 from Lost In Space). As flying saucers go, they looked like they "could work"... and a bit easier to park... :))

(some nice SketchUp walkthru's)

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As for ST Discovery, I think they'll probably tweak it a bit more :)

Seriously, perhaps the ideal shape for a massive starship is the infamous "cigar"-shaped UFOs (Zeppelins with Warp Drive anyone? :)) (Probably not interesting enough for audiences... hehe)

KiwiElf

28th July 2016, 06:40

Since I've gone completely off the rails, :o the seventh best voted STAR TREK movie, (which wasn't actually STAR TREK), almost made a return as well... ;)

http://www.geek.com/news/we-almost-got-galaxy-quest-2-with-the-original-cast-returning-but-1651671/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_Quest

The prefix of the Protector’s registration number NTE-3120 ostensibly alludes to some sort of similar space federation, but in reality stands for "Not The Enterprise", according to visual effects co-supervisor Bill George in a 2000 interview with Cinefex magazine.

The Protector was a pretty cool (external) design too :)

DeDukshyn

28th July 2016, 15:33

KiwiElf

29th July 2016, 17:42

DeDukshyn

29th July 2016, 21:37

It definitely has a more modern design - and the impulse engines make more sense! one can easily see how the could move the ship backwards and turn with them, unlike most other starfleet ships, and the warp nacelles still follow the proper rule of not having any ship mass directly between them. Definitely a more futuristic version of a starfleet ship.

Well I guess they broke that "rule" with the USS Defiant, stationed at DS9... ;)
(Didn't know there was a "rule" about that - is that TREK Canon techno-talk or "real" warp theory??) :)

I can't recall where the origins of that is from - I assumed it was canon info based on the original ship designs. I tried to find info on this discrepancy but to little avail. The warp nacelles do hang a bit below the ship body though - drawing a line from the center of the nacelles across, just barely clears the bottom of the hull. Another explanation might be that the defiant is a much newer ship in Star Trek lore - perhaps they found ways around that "rule" with newer technology (the defiant also utilizes stolen Romulan technology). It is also noted that there is no good consistent design data regarding the Defiant. http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/defiant-problems.htm

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/scans/factfiles/defiant-front.gif

KiwiElf

30th July 2016, 02:39

Oooof - just had a read - my head is spinning :sherlock: (and thank you for the direct link). Looks like the designers created a STAR TREK "Jupiter 2" (the hard-out technically-minded fans don't miss much, & pointed out over the years, there was no way the Jupiter 2 could have 2 decks - let alone 3 - that matched the interior props to the miniatures). Never mind... the Defiant could certainly could kick butt. There's bound to be an "official" explanation for it somewhere :)

With the Discovery, some of those "hard plate" flattened hull areas may have been borrowed from the look of that Dreadnought monster of a starship in ST Into Darkness. Gives it a more military kinda look. Also lots of space for many shuttles. Is going to be interesting to see how it evolves and what its key mission will be. Only 6 months to go! :)

KiwiElf

1st August 2016, 06:44

'Star Trek: Discovery' Trailer Ship: Don't Worry, The Real Thing Won't Have Such Crappy CGI, Producer Says
Fri, 07/29/2016 - 13:05

By Andrew Whalen

http://www.idigitaltimes.com/star-trek-discovery-trailer-ship-dont-worry-real-thing-wont-have-such-crappy-cgi-548029

The reveal of the starship U.S.S. Discovery NCC-1031 and a title — Star Trek: Discovery — is about all we learned at San Diego Comic-Con 2016.

There’s some other stuff we can extrapolate: the captain may be a black woman, there will be Klingons and the NCC designation promises the series will be set between 2161 and 2293.

But really all we have is a video of the Discovery in its hangar bay, which you can watch above (see OP). The first look “Test Flight” video unveils a United Federation of Planets starship with all the swooping shots and eye sugar you’d expect. Star Trek captains have always been enamored of their ship (and Sisko had both the Defiant and DS9 to drool over). Discovery looks like it will continue Trek’s particular reverence for the technological wonders achieved by a socialist human utopia and their alien allies.

But the first look at the U.S.S. Discovery NCC-1031 shared another similarity with Trek programs of recent decades: bad CGI. It’s not a deal breaker or anything, but the computer graphics model for the Discovery doesn’t look much better than SFX shots from the late 90s.

Don’t worry, it’s far from the final model.

According to Heather Kadin, Star Trek: Discovery’s executive producer, “we had three weeks to throw that together.”

“The concepts of the ship are totally what we’re going for. And they’ll be honed up until, I think, the day we deliver,” Kadin told TrekMovie.

Bryan Fuller, Kadin’s co-executive producer, neglected to mention that the footage was little more than a test during the Star Trek Comic-Con panel.

So don’t worry, Star Trek: Discovery is still on track to be the best thing to ever happen, ever.

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KiwiElf

1st August 2016, 06:52

7 Things We Learned About Bryan Fuller’s STAR TREK: DISCOVERY at Comic-Con
Posted by Joseph McCabe on July 27, 2016

http://nerdist.com/7-things-we-learned-about-bryan-fullers-star-trek-discovery-at-comic-con/

Of all the new TV and film trailers to emerge from last weekend’s San Diego Comic-Con, nothing endeared itself to Star Trek fans as much as the teaser for executive producer Bryan Fuller‘s continuation of creator Gene Roddenberry’s vision, Star Trek: Discovery. After Fuller hosted the Star Trek 50th Anniversary panel at the convention (at which the teaser debuted), we spoke with him one-on-one about his CBS All Access original series, and he told us of his plans to return the franchise to its roots in thoughtful optimism.

Kubrick Is an Influence

With Discovery, Bryan Fuller is letting his love of Stanley Kubrick show. Big time. The series’ teaser trailer opens with an image of three heavenly bodies lining up, just like the opening shot of 2001: A Space Odyssey, while its ship bears the same name as that of the late filmmaker’s masterpiece. “Of course I’m a massive Kubrick fan and the Discovery from 2001,” Fuller tells us. “And there’s something so Star Trek about the word ‘discovery.'”

It Puts the Science Back in Science Fiction

After its near absence in Bad Robot’s ongoing series of Trek films, it’s refreshing to hear that genuine science will play a role in Discovery.

“There’s a wonderful sense of what we need as humans,” says Fuller of the show. “We need to be explorers. We need to discover. We need to expand. We need to heal where we are right now. Because we’re in some dangerous territory as a country. I don’t take the responsibility lightly—to continue acknowledging that beacon in the stars for us to aspire to, for us to be better people.”

He continues, “Because there’s so much ignorance-based fear in this country, and demagogues who would prey on that fear, it is the scientists and the explorers and the dreamers that are going to bring this country and the world to the place that it needs to be. And I would love for us to end up in Gene Roddenberry’s vision of the future. That’s one of the appeals of Star Trek. People see it, and they dream about being explorers and being part of something greater than themselves. Right now it’s very, very easy to get lost in ignorance and fear.”

Its Look Will Be Very Different from J.J. Abrams’ Star Trek

Forget the abundance of swooping curves on NuTrek’s Enterprise, Fuller’s Discovery has a healthy helping of straight lines, inspired by Star Wars concept artist Ralph McQuarrie’s designs for Gene Roddenberry’s never-produced 1970s Star Trek series.

“We were looking for a new aesthetic,” explains Fuller. “We can’t just go back to the same aesthetic. You look at what J.J. Abrams did with that 2009 movie, which reinvented Star Trek in such a wonderful way and claimed that territory. So we had to strike new ground that had Star Trek in its DNA at a fundamental level. To make a commitment to the fanbase, who are aware of Star Trek and its iterations—both the shows that made it to the airwaves and the ones that didn’t. So it felt like a really nice way to let the hardcore Star Trek audience know that I have their backs.”

Bryan Fuller REALLY Likes Halloween

Seriously. Like, enough to commission an entire starship in its honor. Just take a look at the Discovery’s registry number: NCC-1031. “Yes,” admits the director with a laugh, “I love Halloween.”

It’s a sure sign that, while this Star Trek will take itself seriously, like the original series it won’t be afraid to have a little fun sometimes.

Veteran Star Trek Actors Could Appear on the Show

The Fuller-hosted Star Trek 50th Anniversary panel at Comic-Con included the presence of fan-favorite cast members from all five Trek TV series: William Shatner, Brent Spiner, Michael Dorn, Jeri Ryan, and Scott Bakula. Since the new series will take place in Trek‘s original Prime Universe, we asked Fuller if there was any chance these legends could someday return to their roles.

“Never say never,” he replied, “I love everybody on that panel. I would love to work with them in some capacity. And I won’t stop until I do. So wish us luck.”

And Veteran Star Trek Actors Are in No Way Opposed to Appearing in It

“Let me tell you something,” says Michael Dorn, the man who gave Trek‘s most famous Klingon, Worf, his warrior’s heart. “I always say, ‘We’re in space for God’s sake—who knows?’ You never know.”

Jeri Ryan shares the sentiment. “It could not be in better hands,” says the once (and future?) Seven of Nine. “Truly. I am beyond thrilled that Bryan has taken the helm on this show. I think it’s just gonna be incredible… Yeah, never say never. It could be fun to re-explore.”

Star Trek‘s Female Characters Will Be Stronger Than Ever

Though Trek has a grand tradition of iconic female characters, going back to Nichelle Nichols’ Lieutenant Uhura (the first African-American woman to regularly appear in a TV drama playing a character other than a maid) all the way up to Kate Mulgrew’s series lead Captain Kathryn Janeway on Star Trek: Voyager, one can’t help but wonder what kinds of ladies one might we see in a post-Force Awakens, post-Fury Road chapter of the franchise. Will there be even more consistently complete and complex female characterizations?

“Definitely,” says executive producer Heather Kadin, Fuller’s partner on Discovery. “I also think, even with those movies aside, if you just take the evolution of Star Trek itself in the various series, it’s been going in that direction. To hear Jeri Ryan talk about all that her character got to do and got to experience, and the groundbreaking things that she got to do, compared to what we’ll be able to do now, I think is really important. Yes, that’s definitely something that we’re gonna focus on and is gonna feel very present in a way that it hasn’t before.”

KiwiElf

10th August 2016, 04:25

Star Trek Movies Ranked - Worst to Best

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Published on Jul 15, 2016

It's the 50th anniversary of Star Trek and Paramount is giving us the 13th(!) movie in just a week... So in honor of that, Robin ranks all the Star Trek movies in order, from worst to best!

Explore the 5 Biggest Star Trek Plot Holes: http://bit.ly/29VnvGj

KiwiElf

23rd August 2016, 06:07

50 Years of STAR TREK
History Channel - Retrospective of the "Star Trek" franchise, in honor of its 50th anniversary.

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All copyrights assigned to original owners. This video is meant for the purposes of education. It is subject to review of original content owners. Published on Jul 30, 2016

KiwiElf

23rd August 2016, 06:12

Star Trek: Discovery - EVERYTHING we know so far (comprehensive)

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Published on Aug 7, 2016

NOTE: Please check out the newly updated video first for additional facts on the new series: https://youtu.be/fgeEQ0lLAUU

Star Trek: Discovery (DSC) is fast approaching our screens but information behind the new series is limited. Here, I separate all the facts from fiction: from behind-the-scenes details on who is heading up the series to facts and juicy theories about the series itself.

This video is COMPREHENSIVE so you may wish to skip to the parts that you want to find out the most about:

BEHIND THE SCENES
- When will DSC air? 1:00
- On which channel will DSC air? 1:11
- Who is heading up the series? 2:37
- Is DSC part of the Kelvin Timeline seen in the rebooted Star Trek movies? 3:31
- Tell me more about the show! 5:59
- The star of the show is the USS Discovery NCC-1031 6:39
- When is the show set? 12:49
- New crews... New villains... New heroes... New worlds... 19:16
- Who is the captain? 21:41
- So we basically know very little... (if you want the summary) 22:52

KiwiElf

23rd August 2016, 06:25

For fans & Trekkers, the recent Star Trek - 50th Anniversary 2016 Comic Con Full Panel - (William Shatner, (Captain James T. Kirk), Scott Bakula, (Captain Jonathan Archer from ENTERPRISE), Michael Dorn (Klingon Lt Commander Worf from The Next Generation & Deep Space Nine), Brent Spiner (Android Commander Data from The Next Generation), and Jeri Ryan (Seven-of-Nine Borg from ST Voyager)

Interesting discussions from some of STAR TREK's iconic luminaries about the Evolution of STAR TREK & the world; the relevance of the Prime Directive since STAR TREK's inception to the Earth of today.

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Cidersomerset

12th September 2016, 16:19

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How Star Trek inspired 'two generations' of scientists

9 September 2016 Last updated at 13:09 BST

Short clip on link....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-37320440

Star Trek has had an “inspirational relationship” with the space programme,
says Robert Picardo, who played the medical hologram in Star Trek Voyager.
The hit Sci-Fi show is currently celebrating 50 years since its initial broadcast
to US TV audiences.Speaking to BBC Radio 5 live, Mr Picardo said there have
now been “two generations” of people who have “been inspired” to go into
technology fields because of Star Trek.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-37320440

KiwiElf

25th September 2017, 05:06

It's finally here, after months of delays :) - these first reviews from Rotten Tomatoes (see link below plus videos)

Star Trek: Discovery Buzz: How Does the New Series Stack Up Against Other Treks?
The first reviews for the new CBS All Access series have finally arrived.
by Debbie Day | September 24, 2017

https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/star-trek-discovery-first-critic-reactions/

KiwiElf

25th September 2017, 10:04

I can now safely say,... the wait was worth it. ;) Top marks from me! :Party::thumbsup:

DeDukshyn

25th September 2017, 16:35

Well I was left disappointed ... not because I thought the show sucked, but because of some new Oprah 60 minutes thing the scheduled airtime (or at least as it was scheduled by my provider), was pushed a head by 10 minutes, and my recording has 10 - 15 minutes of Oprah, and then is cut off about 10 minutes before the end of the show.

After that frustration, I realized they were playing 2 episodes last night ... and I missed the first 10 minutes of the second one by the time I figured this all out. I found other play times so I'll re watch them in their entirety.

That aside. I did really like it. Not 100% sure of the new captain though ... she's no Janeway .. but that said, she may end up working well into the role after a few episodes.

Is it true that from here on it's only available online via subscription to CBS All Access? I'll pirate it if that is the case - I certainly won't be using that method to watch it.

KiwiElf

25th September 2017, 17:04

@ DeDukshyn
Oh gosh - that's a bummer you missed that bit... I don't want to give away any spoilers here... are you referring to Michelle Yeoh's (Captain Georgiou) character? Well if you're going to replay them I'll say no more ;).

The first 2 episodes appear to be background for the main character (ie Michael Burnham, played by Sonequa Martin) and a general "setting the stage" - it doesn't look like we actually get onto the USS Discovery until perhaps the next (3rd) episode?, commanded (atm...) by Jason Isaacs ... aka Captain Gabriel Lorca. The Discovery looks pretty cool now, too.

So far, I like where it's going with a continuing anthology style (and no doubt, many flashbacks to come). Visually/SFX-wise, & fast pace, it's right up there with the movies. Canon-wise,... mmm elements of both I think, but design-wise, the ships seem a bit too advanced for the time period, but in keeping with the Abrams movies.

We will see... :)

Cidersomerset

25th September 2017, 17:09

I just watched discovery episode one and I enjoyed it and I will watch episode two
a little later , I'm listening to Phil the Issues guy who is 'bonkers' but a great Trek
fan of all series particularly Deep space 9. I got into many u'tube reviewers due
to Game of Thrones and some of them cross over into various shows.

So I'm going to watch Phil and the ' mother f------ chat'. He may not be to
everyone's taste and there is swearing and immature behaviour at times...LOL
He has been covering the Orville as well.

' WARNING SPOILERS FOR EP.1 IN VIDS BELOW'

Star Trek Discovery Season 1 Episode 1 "The Vulcan Hello" Long Recap and Review
aprox 2hrs...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXe2ccQdmMA
Phil TheIssuesGuy

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SHORTER REVIEW......

Star Trek: Discovery Season 1 Episode 1 "The Vulcan Hello" REVIEW

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Cidersomerset

25th September 2017, 18:20

The first 2 episodes appear to be background for the main character
(ie Michael Burnham, played by Sonequa Martin) and a general "setting the
stage" - it doesn't look like we actually get onto the USS Discovery until
perhaps the next (3rd) episode?, commanded (atm...) by Jason Isaacs ...
aka Captain Gabriel Lorca. The Discovery looks pretty cool now, too.

Well I could not wait that long episode two had the twist at the end and
ep 1 nd 2 were a very enjoyable prologue. It looks like the the Dicovery
is a special ops ship of some kind maybe run by Starfleet intelligence ?
We shall see .....39 mins for episode two is poor now a days they should
be nearer 60 mins per episode imo....

DeDukshyn

25th September 2017, 23:47

@ DeDukshyn
The first 2 episodes appear to be background for the main character (ie Michael Burnham, played by Sonequa Martin) and a general "setting the stage" - it doesn't look like we actually get onto the USS Discovery until perhaps the next (3rd) episode?, commanded (atm...) by Jason Isaacs ... aka Captain Gabriel Lorca. The Discovery looks pretty cool now, too.

Ahh, ok that makes sense - I only had parts of this backstory - looking forward to that - interesting way to start a series.

Looking forward to the rest of the season :)

KiwiElf

26th September 2017, 09:18

uzn

26th September 2017, 09:38

Is it just me or do the new Klingons have a bit more elongated skulls ?

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DeDukshyn

26th September 2017, 22:31

Is it just me or do the new Klingons have a bit more elongated skulls ?

Yes, I immediately noticed that as well while watching. There was even more extreme examples I think than those.

KiwiElf

30th September 2017, 18:27

'Star Trek: Discovery' Just Lost a Ton of Viewers With Their Recent Instagram Post
Erika Haas

https://townhall.com/notebook/erikahaas/2017/09/28/star-trek-actors-take-a-knee-n2387505
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Posted: Sep 28, 2017 9:15 AM

As expected, celebrities are quickly jumping on board the #TakeAKnee train. First it was “X-Files” stars Gillian Anderson and David Duchovny, and now it’s the entire cast of “Star Trek: Discovery.”

Actress Sonequa Martin-Green, who plays one of the show’s main characters, posted a picture of her and her fellow cast members taking a knee in solidarity with the NFL anthem protestors to Instagram shorty after “Star Trek: Discovery” premiered.

It went viral within hours.

While some social media users praised the cast for the “powerful and compassionate gesture,” most criticized them for getting political and alienating half their audience.

“Like a lot of folks, I choose to engage in recreational activities, whatever they may be, to get a few blissful minutes or hours away from the troubles of the world,” wrote one user. “You, and every other entertainer who does this are just putting those troubles front and center again.”

“I'm taking a STAND against your show. I will be boycotting it with many other patriotic Americans. Your empty gesture is meaningless and will cost you viewers,” said another.

Many others claimed they are no longer fans of the actors, the show, or the franchise.

“Life long Star Trek fan no more,” declared one user.

Sounds like “Star Trek: Discovery” is going to have a rough first (and maybe only) season.

DeDukshyn

30th September 2017, 19:40

uzn

1st October 2017, 08:58

Can anybody tell me what this kneefalling is all about?

KiwiElf

1st October 2017, 09:46

@ uzn,.. In the case of Hollywood actors mentioned above, (ie ST DISCOVERY, X-FILES etc, cast), it seems to be a bit different from the NFL situation - no anthem involved, more a case of support for those in the NFL who took a kneel, but I've tried to stay out of it... I'm sure there are members who are much more knowledgeable on the subject. One thing is clear in both: the fans don't want the players/actors' political views intruding on their entertainment. (From what I can glean, it boils down to basically anti-Trump sentiments).

Meanwhile,...

ST Discovery is getting abysmal reviews on IMDB and elsewhere -

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5171438/?ref_=nv_sr_1

mostly from fans of the earlier shows - despite holding an overall score of 7.2/10. By contrast, Seth MacFarlane's "The Orville" is doing better @ 7.5/10 with many fans considering the latter to be a better version of STAR TREK. (Objectively, the split seems to be about 50/50 and as devisive as many other "situations" atm).

Personally, I'm enjoying it. No, it's not the STAR TREK of old (but then I wouldn't be keen on buying a "brand new" car made exactly as it was in the 60's either. Even the original VW Beetle evolved!). To quote a line from William Shatner as Kirk in The Undiscovered Country, (the 6th STAR TREK Movie)- KIRK: "Some people are afraid ...of what might happen...People can be very frightened of change" ;)

(On a side note, the naysayers and haters dissed the new remake of Thunderbirds Are Go in much the same way. After two very successful seasons and a third just around the corner, it's now rated as one of the top shows in the UK & elsewhere).

KiwiElf

2nd October 2017, 09:35

‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Season 1, Episode 3: "Context Is For Kings"

Sometimes Down Is Up

By SOPAN DEB OCT. 1, 2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/01/arts/television/star-trek-discovery-season-1-episode-3-recap.html?mcubz=3

One of my early complaints about “Star Trek: Discovery” is that we don’t know much about character motivations. This week’s episode three is titled, aptly, “Context Is for Kings,” and offers more information about where the show is headed.

Yet, in addition to being a convoluted hour, it’s also gloomy and uncomfortable. This is, essentially, a second pilot for “Discovery.” A pair of central characters (T’Kuvma and Georgiou) were killed off in the first two episodes. Now, we’re on a different ship with a different crew and Michael Burnham is in a powerless position. Very rarely does a series hit the reboot button so soon, but here we are.

We finally meet the show’s main vessel, the Discovery, after a transport ship moving prisoners, including Burnham, is diverted. By the end of the episode, Burnham, known to all of Starfleet as a mutineer, is a member of Captain Gabriel Lorca’s (played by the always charismatic Jason Isaacs) crew.

Burnham’s introduction to Captain Lorca’s crew was far from seamless, with other crew members hurling insults (she’s called garbage, mutineer, dangerous, among others), making it clear she isn’t welcome. Her own roommate won’t share a station in engineering with her. She gets attacked by fellow prisoners. Burnham doesn’t want to be there. Given Burnham’s mutiny, why should we as viewers want to be along for this ride?

Full article at link...

Marikins

2nd October 2017, 12:38

Can anybody tell me what this kneefalling is all about?

A football player Colin Kaepernick took a knee during the playing of the national anthem. When I first heard about it, I thought he was showing respect for people who died defending the US (I'm a sports atheist), but then he stated it was because "I am not going to stand to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color. To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder." One assumes Kaepernick is talking about police shooting black people and getting away with it.

So now Trump has weighed in because he is pro-police, pro-veterans and pro-sports owners. People have dumped their sports channels and tickets and burned their NFL gear.

People seem to be generally sick of millionaires with an entertainment or sports platform making political statements. I think they are basically tired of being told what to think. Team owners are all 'Do it on your own time, drama queen, we have a business to run.'

I, who knows nothing of professional sports, never understood the linkage between patriotism and sports, unless sports is a peacetime mental readiness for war exercise. The Man keeps the patriotic/aggression active so he can point at the next target when needed.

Cidersomerset

2nd October 2017, 12:50

I enjoyed episode three , it is grittier and seems to be taking the covert
darker story line from other series of Star Trek. All empires/federations
have their intergalactic MI6/CIA etc......

Article 14, Section 31

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn5RCftFB8w

Section 31 Predates the Federation Charter ....Enterprise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug0SHD64ZPg

Section 31 - The Spy ....compilation from various episodes and series...

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Smell the Roses

2nd October 2017, 13:40

DeDukshyn

2nd October 2017, 14:19

Cidersomerset

2nd October 2017, 14:39

Yes .... The Discovery being a high tech "above top secret" black ops ship is an interesting approach ...

Its certainly a contrast to the Orville , from the fluffy side of the Tekkie universe
and ties into the murky world of today . I expect it will broaden out if it runs
for several seasons. But if it is going the section 31 route it is telling part of
the overall existing star Trek cannon....

DeDukshyn

2nd October 2017, 15:22

Our family has seen every Star Trek episode, but this one is challenging for us with the streaming aspect. We have CBS All Access, but could barely get through episode two, because it crashed every time the ads were loaded. We literally had to reload it fifty times just to get to the end of Episode Two. We are in a rural area with not very good Internet. I haven't even tried to watch episode three yet. I feel like these urban types don't realize that there are many Americans who don't have access to high speed Internet.

I was initially worried about access as I won't be subscribing to CBS, but in Canada, Space channel (https://www.space.ca/) is carrying it and it is also available via Space on Demand and on the Space website (with account). I didn't see any other channels carrying it though ....

KiwiElf

2nd October 2017, 17:51

I think you folks nailed it: DISCOVERY may be the black ops division of Starfleet, (which could easily explain the secrecy, advanced design etc). Certainly no boring moments in #3! Like previous versions of STAR TREK, DISCOVERY reflects actual world events as we see them now. This TREK really is "boldly going where no one has gone before" ;)

KiwiElf

2nd October 2017, 18:04

Our family has seen every Star Trek episode, but this one is challenging for us with the streaming aspect. We have CBS All Access, but could barely get through episode two, because it crashed every time the ads were loaded. We literally had to reload it fifty times just to get to the end of Episode Two. We are in a rural area with not very good Internet. I haven't even tried to watch episode three yet. I feel like these urban types don't realize that there are many Americans who don't have access to high speed Internet.

Merry Mom, I'm inclined to recommend turning to the "dark side" ;)

Cidersomerset

2nd October 2017, 23:09

Collider does good G O Thrones reviews and in this one they are agreeing that this
possibly based on section 31 and is more like the Expanse so far than conventional
Star Trek. They also think the 'Mirror Universe' may play a big part in this series
other than the usual one off episodes already done in DS9, Next Gen and Enterprise.

Star Trek Discovery Episode 3 "Context Is For Kings" Review

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Streamed live 4 hours ago

John Rocha and David Griffin are joined on the Collider bridge by Jason Inman
and Ashley V. Robinson to review ‘Context Is For Kings’, the third episode of
‘Star Trek: Discovery’. They offer their observations on the new Discovery crew
who we meet in this episode. And on the continuing storylines of this season as
the Federation vs Klingons war rages on. They also might be joined by a noted
Star Trek guest expert to offer his unique take on the show.

Smell the Roses

3rd October 2017, 13:42

DeDukshyn

3rd October 2017, 23:17

I finally got to see Episode 3 by getting up very early this morning when the radio tower still has bandwidth available. It certainly had some twists and turns. My impression was that the captain is lying to Burnham about what the spores do? Certainly Captain Janeway would be upset if the ability to travel instantly between quadrants has been suppressed! I wanted the captain to be a good guy, because I am struggling to root for any of the characters, but the last scene seems to indicate that he won't be a hero. Burnham's red-headed roommate Tilly was a refreshing change from the usual. I liked her honesty.

You may be right ... but the bit of back story provided on the spores does makes some sense on how they might leverage the myco-tendrils or whatever for travel. Regardless, what does seem evident is that the Discovery is focused on research with Biology as opposed to technology - as the "bio-weapon" that they plucked from their sister ship lends to (The captain was obviously well aware that that thing existed). The focus of biology as technology seems a plausible path for such an entity as The Federation on the brink of war with Klingons.

I watched it again last night and have to say I love the possibilities this approach opens up for future episodes. Already can't wait until next Sunday :)

KiwiElf

4th October 2017, 05:54

Have to admit, I had to go back & watch it a second time, too DeDukshyn. I picked up a lot more 2nd time around. (Rhetorical questions: Why were the bodies of the crew members on the USS Glen scrambled? (sister ship to the Discovery), and what is that "bio-weapon" creature about? It seems the rest of Starfleet don't even know about these ships. Yeah, I'm hooked on this series already ;)

Smell the Roses

4th October 2017, 13:37

I will have to watch it again also, as I realized that I missed a whole section in between ads. Also, I want to hear what he said about the spores again and the context of Kings part. The spores remind me somewhat of the neural gel packs from Voyager.

DeDukshyn

9th October 2017, 16:59

Maybe just me but, I wasn't overly thrilled with number four. Maybe I set my expectations too high ...?

Cidersomerset

9th October 2017, 17:16

Maybe just me but, I wasn't overly thrilled with number four. Maybe I set my expectations too high ...?

I enjoyed it , I liked the captain he has presence , Michael is fitting in if a bit predictable.
What wasn't was the security officer getting killed off, they are going the GOT route which
is becoming more fashionable and with no 'Red Shirts' secondary characters are fair
game as well. I'm not sold on the Klingons makeover and slow speech , but as they are
the main adversary this season I hope they grow on me. As for the story line I like the
continuous thread and it will be an interesting journey I feel.

Reading back my review it is not that glowing but I liked it better than it sounds.....

Star Trek: Discovery Episode 4 Recap & Review "The Butcher's Knife Cares Not For The Lamb's Cry

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Cidersomerset

10th October 2017, 22:28

Star Trek Discovery Episode 4 "The Butcher’s Knife Cares Not for the Lamb’s Cry" Review

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Streamed live 3 hours ago

John Rocha, David Griffin, and Robert Meyer Burnett review and discuss
"The Butcher's Knife Cares Not for the Lamb's Cry", episode four of
'Star Trek Discovery'.

KiwiElf

16th October 2017, 12:53

Star Trek: Discovery Review: Choose Your Pain" -- Episode 105 *Warning - Spoilers*

Things Get Even Darker (But More Fascinating) in ‘Choose Your Pain’ - The crew of the newest "Trek" series broke whole new boundaries for the franchise in the newest episode.

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Liz Shannon Miller

Oct 15, 2017 9:30 pm

http://www.indiewire.com/2017/10/star-trek-discovery-episode-5-review-choose-your-pain-spoilers-1201887643/

It’s an intense time on the Discovery this week, as Captain Lorca gets kidnapped by Klingons, we meet the immediately infamous Harry Mudd (Rainn Wilson), and Lt. Stamets makes a bold but rash decision.

[Editor’s note: Spoilers for Season 1, Episode 5, “Choose Your Pain” follow.]
Not One Big Happy Family (Yet?)

When you compare “Discovery” to other “Trek” series, one aspect that stands out is the comparatively small size of the cast.

There’s a new addition this week, though, after Lorca brings on board Lieutenant Ash Tyler (Shazad Latif), whose status as a former prisoner seems like it’s left him pretty messed up. The engineering team of Stamets, Tilly, and Burnham has coalesced into a fun trio, and all of Burnham’s interactions with Saru are interesting, given how those characters have a deep backstory.

However, the cast in general hasn’t really come together yet as a full ensemble, which speaks to the unconventional nature of the plotting here, but could be problematic if it continues much longer. The Discovery is a far more complicated ship than its predecessors, but there’s still a hope that something resembling a family emerges within this cast.

Poor Tardigrade

Real talk: It takes an awfully long time for many of these Starfleet officers to come around to the Starfleet-y point of view that maybe abusing a living creature for the sake of a navigation system isn’t a great plan. The solution they come up with after pushing Ripper to his limits — infusing the tardigrade DNA into a more willing host — will undoubtedly have repercussions down the line for Stamets. But it’s hard not to feel relieved by Burnham’s decision to give the creature its freedom, and feel joy at its blasting off into the stars.

That Spinning Ship Effect Is Still Fantastic

In fact, to quote Tilly, it’s “so f**king cool.” (another STAR TREK "first")
Speaking of Those F-Bombs…

Up until now, the most memorable instance of swearing in the “Trek” universe was perhaps Captain Kirk shouting “double dumb-ass on you!” in “Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home.” But, courtesy of CBS All Access’s looser standards, we get both Tilly and Stamets exclaiming over the joys of science in a truly authentic way. It’s undoubtedly weird, to hear this level of profanity in “Trek,” but there’s a joy to it as well.

In General, A Darker “Trek” Than Ever Before

Another realm “Trek” doesn’t often engage with is sexual violence — usually, the franchise takes a more metaphorical approach. Here, though, we have it basically acknowledged that Tyler was subject to nonconsensual advances by L’Rell (Mary Chieffo), pushing the show into darker territory than we might be used to. And that’s all before Lorca and Tyler break necks and shoot to kill as they escape the Klingon ship. Those new phaser effects are cool, but also yikes.

Also, speaking of dark moments: Learning what we do about Lorca’s prior command is just one of the episode’s most brutal blows, but it does come with a newfound understanding of why his eyes still aren’t fixed. It’s hard to imagine past “Trek” captains making the same choice… Well, actually, Sisko would probably have done it. Picard, maybe. But no way Kirk would have.

Hey, Harry Mudd’s Got an Edge

Like so many other aspects of “Discovery,” we see the series take an element of the original franchise and give it a darker spin. Rather than a jovial conman type, Wilson’s take on Mudd (a character from “The Original Series”) has an edge of ruthless anarchy to him, representing a non-Starfleet point of view that does honestly strike a chord. We don’t know enough at this stage about what exactly Federation society is like in this era. But Mudd is just one reminder that it’s not exactly a picnic.

Even In the Future, Dental Hygeine Matters

Speaking of new territory: The episode ends on a note of relative domestic bliss — just two men in love, brushing their teeth side-by-side in the bathroom — which is relatively unprecedented for “Trek.” (another STAR TREK "first")(Hell, sci-fi in general. How many spaceship bathrooms can you remember seeing?) While it’s a bit odd that Stamets and Culber wear matching Starfleet-issue pajamas (in this more militaristic era, does Starfleet even regulate sleepwear?) that’s nothing compared to the final look at Stamets, who may say that he feels okay, but is clearly transformed by this new glimpse of the universe he’s gotten.

One Weird Ride

It’s still hard to be sure where “Discovery” is taking us at this stage — the mysteries only seem to be piling up, while we wait for these people to fully coalesce into the sorts of characters we’ll want to follow for years. But so far, the journey is an interesting one, and we’re still on board, especially given the way in which “Discovery” keeps surprising us week after week.

GEEK STUFF: Nice "homage" to the original series & ST ENTERPRISE in this one with Saru reviewing a list of highly decorated Captains, namely; Jonathan Archer, Robert April, Christopher Pike, Matt Decker (who featured as Commodore Decker in the TOS episode, THE DOOMSDAY MACHINE) & Philippa Georgiou - which means, this is the period where either *Robert April or Christopher Pike would be Captain of the ENTERPRISE NCC 1701 before the reins are handed over to James T. Kirk... (and Spock would be onboard too), we might yet see the ENTERPRISE show up - or at least get a mention - (*Robert April was Captain of the ENTERPRISE before Chris Pike) ;)

Cidersomerset

16th October 2017, 16:14

After watching several reviews people seemed to love this episode or hate as
it was for some the best so far and for other the worse. I thought it was fine
with a call back to an original series character and continuing the story with
the addition of a new officer . For me the sub plots are always rushed in a
40 min show but it is generally telling the origin story of the Klingon wars
and the development of Star Fleet.

Harry Mudd Star Trek

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harcourt gets an earful

A decade earlier.....

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Star Trek: Discovery Episode 5 Review - Choose Your Pain

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Published on 15 Oct 2017
We REVIEW Star Trek: Discovery Episode 5 - Choose Your Pain

Cidersomerset

17th October 2017, 17:43

Collider seems to be one of the more balanced reviews where one of the main
splits in the fandom is whether this is Star Trek like or not, which I find amusing.

Star Trek Discovery Episode 5 "Choose Your Pain" Review

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17th October.....

The fifth episode of Star Trek: Discovery, “Choose Your Pain” was released
this past Sunday night on CBS All Access. John Rocha is joined on the Collider
bridge by Robert Meyer Burnett, Jason Inman and Ashley V. Robinson to review
the episode and the continuing adventures of the Discovery crew. In this episode,
they explore a new character joining the Discovery crew. They discuss the return
of a character that first appeared in the original Star Trek series. They also offer
their thoughts and opinions on the resolution of the Ripper tardigrade arc and the
continuing battle between the Federation and the Klingons.

KiwiElf

17th October 2017, 18:38

Have to admit, I'm really intrigued by the idea of the Universe being a natural network of interconnected ummmm "tendrils", which the Tardigrade uses to navigate instantly in time/space - the Electric Living Universe? Kinda gave me chills - a bit like the Life Force of the Great Tree in Avatar :)

EDIT: The really spooky bit for me was the last two scenes; we see Stamet & his reflection in the mirror, turn and walk away to the bedroom, but then it cuts to just a mirror reflection of a kind of "evil looking" smiling Stamet in the mirror, repeat the turn - but there's no Stamet to create the reflection?

A lot of fans are suggesting this is set in the Mirror Universe - I don't buy it, but I'm sure it's going to pop up sometime ;)

BTW - I loved this episode! I am totally hooked! ;)

Cidersomerset

17th October 2017, 18:58

Have to admit, I'm really intrigued by the idea of the Universe being a natural network of
interconnected ummmm "tendrils", which the Tardigrade uses to navigate instantly in
time/space - the Electric Living Universe? Kinda gave me chills - a bit like the Life Force
of the Great Tree in Avatar ... BTW - I loved this episode!

I enjoyed it as well by releasing the Tardigrade it explains why this technology did not
become wide spread. The look on Stamets face at the end suggests it may be his
alternate selfe from the mirror universe that is supposed to play a part this season,
and some have speculated the reason Discovery seems darker all round is because
it is already set there ? I'm not sold on that yet.

Another theory brought up in the Colider review is that Voq may be Ash Tyler in
disguise , if you remember when he was saved from the ship by Dennas he would
have to lose something of great value. Ash was supposed to have been a prisoner
on the Klingon ship for six months and the Captains play mate , they fully explain
it in the review.

Smell the Roses

18th October 2017, 17:07

Cidersomerset

18th October 2017, 18:16

I am not enjoying it as much as those on this thread seem to, but it helps to read the comments
here of friends who are enjoying it and what they got out of it. I suppose I am missing the somewhat
contained stories of TNG and Voyager where there was a concise plotline and lesson within each
episode. However, I do like the character development of the captain so far. I'll keep watching!

You have summed up the current split Merry Mom. Is it Star Trek or not ? I look at it slightly
different as I watch most scy - fy shows that comes along . The best being the Expanse & Dark Matter
but there quite a few series currently in various stages of airing. I just watched the first 8 episodes of
Extinct which is not bad. So I look at Discovery as a follow up to Enterprise and continuing the trend
of a continuous story line from beginning to end.

The original star trek was set up to be syndicated so that shows could be shown out of sequence
and could be repeated at different times and in one off slots , this was/is how many shows were/are
made and programmed and The next generation followed this although over the seasons you could
see development, Voyager and Deep space nine had both stand alone episodes and continuing thread.

There are complaints about the nostalgia and morality but there were dark episodes in all the series.
Discovery is still in the very early stages and although I do not like the Klingon change I'm getting
used to it. Stick with Merry Mom you may change you mind....:idea:

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DeDukshyn

18th October 2017, 20:56

I'll pipe in to the sentiment of the last couple posts ...

If I try to make this series fit into the original over-arching theme of what made the original series "Star Trek", I am left disappointed. It's not it. Similar to how Enterprise left many people feeling, I believe. (although I secretly didn't think it was that bad)

Does this mean the show is a right off? For many purists perhaps, but not necessarily.

Jason Isaacs says Star Trek: Discovery is "of our time, and for our time"

If I evaluate the show as a stand-alone "star trek themed" sci-fi soap opera of sorts, then it suddenly looks pretty darn good. I am enjoying the soap opera style story line of long term story telling that will span the entire season(s) - something new for the franchise, but an approach that has been successful in many hit TV series lately. There is still enough detail and distinct story in each the episodes that watching re-runs out of "order" won't be uncomfortable or too confusing. The continued storyline approach is also always changing every couple episodes. The "Spore Drive" might end up one of many mini stories inside the larger story of "the war with klingons".

The writers did take part of the Star Trek universe that is never much talked about in any star trek media previously -- which is the initial war with the klingons. This allows it to stand outside of the main theme without messing up any of the original lore, as Voyager also took advantage of. Being "at war" is obviously what allows (rightfully so) the darkened ethics and morale of this series - very intentional, I am sure. Let's relate that to the USA having to always be in an active state of war to allow their government to use emergency war provisions to their own law which allows their agencies to be lawless. (this is seriously the reason why the USA is in a perpetual state of war - it grants their governments powers that are "above the law")

I have been watching each episode twice. I often feel a little "meh", after watching it the first time, but always enjoy it much more second time around.

On to the latest episode (Choose your Pain - spoilers herein) ... While engineer Paul Stamets (google his name -- you will be pleasantly surprised at what you find) always came a cross as a little creepy / psycho to me, I agree that the last scene was particularly interesting. Either he isn't quite who he seems to be, or becoming the "navigator" by injecting spore DNA and becoming part of the spore drive has seriously effed something up with him. I liked that hanger at the end as well and wonder where that will go ... will Stamets continue to be a "navigator" for the spore drive? If so, what detrimental effects will it have on him? Is the "spore drive" topic now out or on the backburner to make way for a new mini story ... with the admiral dictating that Discovery not use it anymore unless authorized by Star fleet makes me think that's on the backburner, while we find up what's up with Stamets.

Something else I noticed ...the two other men captive on the klingon battlecruiser: I am not convinced that the guy that captain Larcos "rescued" isn't working directly for the klingons. We do know that he seemed to be "intimately" involved with the klingon captain, by his own admission, and hers, judging by the brutal backhand she laid on Larcos when he teased her with it, etc. Larcos figured it was the chubby bearded guy that was the leak, but his insectoid "pet" was possibly in the hands of the other guy right before it "stole" the food and ran back to the bearded guy. Could he have been ridding himself of the transmitter and affixing it to the insectoid to pit Larcos against beardy? I could be wrong but the beardy guy never admitted to helping the klingons, and the way everything was shown, my hypothesis is 100% possible.

One more odd thing about that guy that Larcos "rescued" from the klingon ship ... when he and Larcos beamed onto the Discovery, the other guy beamed in really strangely, while Larcos beamed in as expected ... why? What was that about? I am hoping for GOT type of subtle twists -- maybe I am reaching too far? I hope not :)

Edit: Just one note to add on the appearance of the klingons. When we think of klingon appearance, at least for me, something like Warf comes to mind or any of the klingons from TNG. Let's back up to the original tv series ... the klingons in this look nothing like the klingons in TNG.

They were regular looking humans with foo-manchus. So the change from the original series to TNG was even yet more drastic from the original, yet everyone got used to that as the new "norm" for klingon appearance. It appears that klingons look as complex as the ability to feasibly make them look for any given production period :)

Klingon from original:

male:
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female:
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from TNG:

male:
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female:
http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/epics/TNG243.jpg

From Discovery:

male:
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female:
https://www.thewrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/star-trek-discovery-klingon.jpg

The main difference between TNG and Discovery seems to be the lack of hair on the latest series.

Cidersomerset

18th October 2017, 22:01

(although I secretly didn't think it was that bad)

I enjoyed Enterprise and thought it was as good as the others until
it was cancelled and the ending was rushed and the final season suffered
and it felt a bit incomplete a bit like the way Game of Thrones is being
rushed so that the producers can get on with their next project .

If I evaluate the show as a stand-alone "star trek themed" sci-fi
soap opera of sorts, then it suddenly looks pretty darn good.

That's my line and I have said it many times Scy -fy is my soap opera
and explains why I have watched some rubbish movies ....LOL

It also ties into my views on ETs and how from the original in the 1960's
the concept of the science of Star Trek has driven both mainstream
and alternate communities to reach for the stars and asked that age
old question are we alone ? Other shows have added to this theme.

I have been watching each episode twice. I often feel a little "meh", after
watching it the first time, but always enjoy it much more second time around.

Me to and several reviews.....

Something else I noticed ...the two other men captive on the klingon
battlecruiser: I am not convinced that the guy that captain Larcos "rescued" isn't
working directly for the klingons. We do know that he seemed to be "intimately"
involved with the klingon captain

That ties into the theory from the Colider vid that he is Voq who has been surgically
disguised as a human , which has been done before. Without the Klingons that were
experimented on in Enterprise. Plus the Klingon empire is large so there maybe
other human like beings under their rule ?

If they never died out who knows what the federation human component may look like...

https://historiadoreshistericos.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/hominidos1.jpg

Today apart from skin shade , size and features we are all the basically the same....
So regional Klingons if that was the case would be ok but I don't think they are
going that way....

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KiwiElf

18th October 2017, 22:38

I've enjoyed them ALL. Each version showing us different sides & evolutions (reflections?) of humanity. (Does anyone remember the animated version of TOS? - it allowed a greater expansion of the original series, including exotic looking aliens and broader story lines which wouldn't have been possible with live actors - or the budget! :)). DISCOVERY could be seen as a reflection of where humanity is at now. (Chaos, exposure/disclosure, confusion & big changes ahead?)

If I recall, one season of ENTERPRISE got quite dark, too (the Xindi arc - Archer was compromised or forced into doing some fairly "dark" acts - Earth was at stake - the "ends justified the means" at any cost).

DeDukshyn

19th October 2017, 00:28

...
That ties into the theory from the Colider vid that he is Voq who has been surgically
disguised as a human ...

Didn't watch the colider vid, but if he was altered in some weird "techy" way like with gene manipulation - that would quite possibly explain the incredibly weird materialization when they beamed aboard. It was a very quick scene, but it seems obvious they wanted that to stand out ... watch that scene again if you have on demand or recorded to see - he almost "splashes in" like with water.

It really does make sense that it could well be Voq. Beating the female klingon (can't recall her name either) would be perfectly acceptable (to klingons) in order to gain access to the Discovery.

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I've enjoyed them ALL. Each version showing us different sides & evolutions (reflections?) of humanity. (Does anyone remember the animated version of TOS? - it allowed a greater expansion of the original series, including exotic looking aliens and broader story lines which wouldn't have been possible with live actors - or the budget! :)). DISCOVERY could be seen as a reflection of where humanity is at now. (Chaos, exposure/disclosure, confusion & big changes ahead?)

If I recall, one season of ENTERPRISE got quite dark, too (the Xindi arc - Archer was compromised or forced into doing some fairly "dark" acts - Earth was at stake - the "ends justified the means" at any cost).

And don't forget a few episodes of Voyager where the Prime Directive had to take a back seat to their survival ...

Ernie Nemeth

19th October 2017, 15:04

I have just finished up the Deep Space Nine series. With that, I have now officially seen every single Star Trek Episode ever made.

This new series looks like fun, but since I do not watch TV it seems I will have to wait several years before I get to see it. I have not seen an olympic event in many years now for the same reason.

Cidersomerset

20th October 2017, 11:05

Indepth look at the theory particularly in the 2nd vid , do not watch if
you do not want to be spoiled....though it is still only fan speculation.
The first vid looks at some anomalies with the actor/s cast to play
Voq and Ash. The second is a detailed run through of other episodes
that may be precursor to the story line.

Star Trek: Discovery Theory: Is Ash Tyler Actually Voq?

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Is Ash Tyler actually Voq?? - Trekyards Analysis

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Cidersomerset

23rd October 2017, 15:55

I enjoyed this episode and gives more background with Sarek and Michael
and Lorca and the Admirals relationship. There were some cheesy moments
but the general story line is moving forward and it showed the coldness of
Lorca at the end as he is conflicted whether to go after the Admiral and
lose his ship or suddenly tow the line with Star Fleet.

Not sure about Ash being Klingon , nothing given away in his story line
as he bonds with Lorca and Burnham. Stamets was fun as he was high
on whatever he has been taking to jump the ship. Yes there are holes
but they were acceptable for me

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There were some disagreements in this review...Some good , some bad

Problems with Vulcan Kung Fu and holodeck's

Star Trek: Discovery Episode 6 Review - Lethe

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Published on 22 Oct 2017
We REVIEW Star Trek: Discovery Episode 6 - Lethe

KiwiElf

23rd October 2017, 16:37

In Episode 6, we learn that DISCOVERY is the most advanced ship in Starfleet; the "Constitution ship like the ENTERPRISE" gets a mention from Michael, and some interesting background about Spock vs Michael with a not-so-nice Vulcan's reference to Sarek's "human experiment". Lorca does say something to Ash after their holo fight,... (breadcrumbs alluding to Ash being a Klingon?) "you fight like a Klingon..."

With only a few remaining episodes before the series takes a small break, this episode, like the ones before, leave me wanting more - the suspense is like a drug,... & I'm addicted! :)

DeDukshyn

23rd October 2017, 22:36

So ... We can see just how advanced Discovery is ... a working "holodeck". The holodeck is not something we see until TNG IIRC, and that should be about 200 years in the future from Discovery's timeframe. At any rate, I don't think Kirk ever had the luxury of using a holodeck, so this tech is still many, many years away from mainstream starfleet?

I like how they left the episode, the next one should be interesting.

KiwiElf

24th October 2017, 02:51

There's a lot of "frenzy" about the holodeck used in this episode ;). Firstly, DISCOVERY has the benefit of advanced tech not found in other Federation ships (think of it as being a B2 "Batwing" compared to a WW2 bomber - sorry to compare the ENTERPRISE to an Avro Lancaster!!! - there's only about 45 yrs difference between those two as well ;)) - or another way to see it is the ENTERPRISE is what the public and the rest of Starfleet see, a state-of-the-art cruiser, but DISCOVERY comes from the 23rd Century equivalent of Area 51. If the ENTERPRISE - or another Constitution ship - does show up in DISCOVERY, it'll probably look more like Abbram's version rather than the classic original :)

Now, if you're familiar with the animated TOS, episode, "The Practical Joker", it DID actually feature a holodeck, (except they called it the Recreation Room). Was the animated series canon? Lots of debate about that, too. This article (and the comments that follow) explains it pretty well :)

http://au.ign.com/articles/2017/10/23/star-trek-discoverys-holodeck-has-fans-freaking-out

PS - TNG first episode takes place in the year 2364, (ie 24th Century), 100 years after the start of the five-year mission described in the original series, which began in 2264, - Dr. McCoy (DeForest Kelly) makes a cameo appearance in the first TNG episode "Farpoint" as a "137 yr old Admiral" - McCoy's character is supposed to be 39 yrs old when he's first posted to the original ENTERPRISE under Kirk in 2266? Confused? Yeah, me too! ;)

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Cidersomerset

30th October 2017, 18:17

Seven weeks gone already.....:facepalm:

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This episode was a classic time loop concept and a bit more of a fun romp
with Burnham and Tyler bopping to the Bee Gees. I like how Mudd connived to
get on the Discovery and over the course of 60 odd time loops attempt
to steal the secrets of the ships drive. It was a bit over the top and Stamets
being the one outside the loop made sense and after they inevitably caught
out Mud and called in his betroved Stella although fun and leads to his
encounter with Capt Kirk.

It was still a very unrealistic lenient punishment especially as I presume
he still has all the Discovery secrets in his brain as they never made it
clear he has not. Also nothing here suggested Tyler was Voq as his actions
were very human imo. Still a good episode.

Star Trek Discovery Episode 7 Season 1 Promo Trailer HD CBS Netflix 2017

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Star Trek Discovery Episode 7 Review "Magic to Make the Sanest Man Go Mad"

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Mark another GOT reviewer and Star Trek fan enjoyed it as he can be grumpy at
times...He does review other shows and is one of the few that does the Expanse
which is an excellent scy -fy universe show.

Star Trek Discovery Season 1 Episode 7 Magic to Make
the Sanest Man go Mad Review

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Published on 30 Oct 2017
In this video I review episode 7 of Season 1 of Star Trek:
Discovery "Magic to Make the Sanest Man Go Mad"

DeDukshyn

30th October 2017, 22:29

I really enjoyed this episode (s1e7). It worked like a standalone, had throwback references, felt a bitmore like a "Star Trek" episode, yet fit perfectly into the "continuing story" concept. The writing structure itself I am finding pretty good.

Paul Stamets "mirror" anomaly in an earlier episode likely was connoting the "multidimensional" aspect of Stamets after the gene alteration, a concept that was key in this episode. I like these little bread crumb like subtleties, but I wish there were more of them :)

Cidersomerset

31st October 2017, 10:26

This is interesting I'm actually trying to find a UFO vid from an article
on Mojo's thread and as often happens others topics come up in the
U tube links that send me off on another direction and today suddenly
came up some vids about Tardigrades and this was probably the inspiration
of the Discovery spor drive story as they have been taken into space by NASA.

Does This Strange Animal Have Alien DNA?

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Published on 20 Dec 2015
Tardigrades are awesome! They can survive in extreme weather and even
breed in space, but what else do we know about these mysterious creatures?

KiwiElf

1st November 2017, 09:50

Every incarnation of TREK, including the original, did its best to keep up with known science of the time & extrapolate from that. DISCOVERY appears very much to be following suit, (which explains the Tardigrade, spore drive & much more advanced look of the ships & devices. Let's be honest, the technology depicted in TOS was incredible & futuristic for the 1960's, but some of it would be very ummm "quaint" now, and we're only into 2017! :)

Alpha141

1st November 2017, 10:24

I have been watching it. Really enjoy it. The style and feel. Vulcan aspects etc. Character development. Feels a bit of a Dark Matter seriousness in there. The recent episode was all about a time paradox. Exactly how i feel about this reality on Earth. Andrew Bartzis who i operate with talks about us being in the 5th paradox now. It was also very interesting as your feelings towards someone was a breaker through the loop. And, their is a guy who had a modification and expressed himself as multidimensional. I think it is a pretty short run this season...so hoping they continue it for sure.

Cidersomerset

1st November 2017, 13:23

DeDukshyn

1st November 2017, 14:38

... I think it is a pretty short run this season...so hoping they continue it for sure.

Already renewed for season 2 :)

KiwiElf

1st November 2017, 21:40

I may have missed the team meeting! - I read at some point the current series will take a wee break midway through @ #9 (more or less over Xmas) & continue early into next year.

Good news to hear it's been picked up for a second season! (... and I think some Trek purists are aiming their phasers at me now! :laser: :)

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DeDukshyn

1st November 2017, 23:12

Some suggest the floating UFO objects attracted to the Tether were infact
space creatures....The various Trek serious have had several space creatures
including last weeks 'whale' , Crystaline entity and others including a
biological ship in 'Tin Man' SNG .....

NASA UFO STS-75 The Tether Incident

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Far Point...

I had couple minor qualms with the "space whale" on the time loop episode - but I can be quite pedantic at times :)

I imagine such a creature would be destroyed, crushed, under Earth's gravity - the ship would have had to beam it into a containment field devoid of the gravity generator effect on the ship. Also it's main mode of transportation would likely have been "sailing" on cosmic/solar waves. I would have expected more "sail-like" flippers as opposed to the "paddle-like" flippers the creature had.

Sorry for being such a nerd on this. Fictional creature development is one of my old nerdy pastimes :)

apokalypse

4th November 2017, 00:35

tried to watch Discovery but not really into it like Original version, anyone watch the orville? i enjoy that alot more than Discovery.

http://xwatchseries.to/the_orville/season-1

KiwiElf

4th November 2017, 00:47

tried to watch Discovery but not really into it like Original version, anyone watch the orville? i enjoy that alot more than Discovery.

http://xwatchseries.to/the_orville/season-1

Thread devoted to THE ORVILLE here, apokalypse - enjoy! :)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99717-THE-ORVILLE-New-TV-Comedy-Series-spoofs-STAR-TREK-10-September-on-FOX

Cidersomerset

6th November 2017, 21:09

Episode 8 part 1 "Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum"

I enjoyed this episode the picture quality is still
very good the battle scene at the beginning and
the planet was convincing. I like how the character's
interacted with the captain on the bridge during the
fight scene with the Klingons and the general
character building in general......

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Star Trek: Discovery Episode 8 "Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum" Review

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The eighth episode of Star Trek: Discovery, “Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum” was
released this past Sunday night on CBS All Access. Jason Inman is joined on the
Collider bridge by Robert Meyer Burnett and Ashley V. Robinson to review the
episode and the continuing adventures of the Discovery crew.

The crew offers their thoughts and opinions on the happenings in this episode and
what we can expect for next week’s episode. Let us know what you thought of the
show and what you think might be happening next.

DeDukshyn

7th November 2017, 00:16

Could it still be possible that Ash is Voq?

A few things that keeps making me wonder about this, considering it seems not too likely anymore, is Ash's reactions to certain things - subtle, but possible telling ... my most noted one is Ash's staring at disbelief and almost looking shocked, yet impressed at Lorca telling him how he blew up his previous ship to save the crew from Klingon capture ... A klingon would definitely be impressed by that and consider it a very "honourable" thing to do. There's been a few reactions from Ash along these lines that makes me think it's not impossible, and that they are giving a few very subtle hints ... Ash's facial expressions on hearing certain things ...

One other thing is Voq's absence from all the shows, and now from this episode, L'Rell is shown to highly desire to get on Discovery as well -- perhaps to check in with how Voq is doing? Could be all wrong .. but I am a litytle puzzled by some of Ash's unique reactions to certain info that is revealed to him, and the fact that he's very tall and "fights like a klingon". If it is him, will he eventually end up with Stockholm's syndrome and be a key factor in assisting Starfleet in the war? ... or ... maybe he desires to eventually take Discovery and try to avenge the other klingon arsehole who is now running the war for his own benefit (can't remember his name). L'Rell seems she's of similar mindset in that regard??

At any rate ... never trust a klingon at war ... :)

EDIT: Update ... I checked some info and it seems that Voq is not a character listed for any episode past se1:ep3 -- either he is just gone from the series completely (seems a bit odd) ... or won't be appearing as Voq anytime soon in the series ...

One more addition: One episode left until Christmas break :( Resumes January I believe ...

Cidersomerset

7th November 2017, 10:42

Could it still be possible that Ash is Voq?

I agree with all your thoughts and it is an on going game now to catch him out.
When he is talking to Burnham about after the war going to lake Shasta was that a
real memory ? or transplanted from the real Ash that were used to create Voq's
human persona ? and how deep is his transfer ? Could it be he does not realise
he was Klingon until he is triggered in some way ? A Manchurian candidate.

Cidersomerset

13th November 2017, 20:14

This was a pretty good first half finally as they take a break
till January when it looks like they are in a parallel universe
or mirror as has been used in all the other series.....I enjoyed
this episode and probably the best so far ?

Ash/Voq looks more likely after this ?.......

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Star Trek Discovery Episode 9

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Star Trek: Discovery Episode 9 Review - Into the Forest I Go

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DISCOVERY - Mid Season Finale First Reaction (Cpt Foley)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ubgBjIFDvw
Published on 12 Nov 2017
I discuss my first reaction to the the mid-season finale of Star Trek: Discovery!

DeDukshyn

14th November 2017, 17:30

...I enjoyed this episode and probably the best so far ?
Agreed, this was the best so far. This episode was really good and they left it at a particularly grand cliff hanger - season finale material, I'd say ...

Ash/Voq looks more likely after this ?.......

Yes, initially what i thought too, but they still left a clear pathway for that to not be true as well.

See you in a couple months :)

Harley

14th November 2017, 19:31

Sonequa Martin-Green's experience with The Walking Dead is really paying off!

Awesome Fight Scene! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7vjDAdwnIs

Cidersomerset

14th November 2017, 21:17

Sonequa Martin-Green's experience with The Walking Dead is really paying off!

Awesome Fight Scene!

Yes it was , that vid did not stay up long I wonder if this one will ?

Star Trek Discovery | Michael Burnham Fights Klingon General Kol Full Battle Scene | Burnham vs Kol

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Published on 13 Nov 2017
Michael Burnham arrives on Klingon Ship of the Dead and put in place the two
sensors. She finally meet klingon General Kol and fight him. Here is the full battle scene.

Lorca USS Discovery Defeat Ship Of The Dead And General Kol
https://youtu.be/3lDx2mxaI4s

Michael Burnham, Ash Tyler, Captain Lorca And Admiral Cornwell Best Scenes
https://youtu.be/r8y2bQD6hss

Cidersomerset

14th November 2017, 23:37

Some reviews if you get withdrawal symptoms before Jan/18......:happy dog:

Star Trek: Discovery Mid-Season Finale "Into the Forest I Go" Review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBXhWJgQbBI

Streamed live on 12 Nov 2017
Hosts discuss Star Trek Discovery for the episodes ""Into the Forest I Go."
AFTERBUZZ TV — Star Trek Discovery edition, is a weekly "after show" for
fans of CBS' Star Trek Discovery. In this episode hosts Frank Moran, Kari
Lane, and Christian Bladt discuss Season 1 episode 9.

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Star Trek: Discovery Mid-Season Finale "Into the Forest I Go" Review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkO9zG9Jglg
Streamed live on 13 Nov 2017
CBS’s ‘Star Trek: Discovery’ starring Sonequa Martin-Green, Jason Isaacs, Doug
Jones and Anthony Rapp wraps up Chapter 1 of its first season with the episode
“Into The Forest I Go”. The episode description: Bypassing Starfleet’s orders,
Lorca uses the USS Discovery crew’s ultimate asset, the ship itself, in an effort
to end the war with the Klingons once and for all.

Jason Inman is joined on the Collider bridge by Robert Meyer Burnett and John
Rocha to review the episode. They give you their thoughts and opinions on the
happenings in this episode and on Chapter 1 of this first season. Let us know
your thoughts on the show and what you thought of the season.

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ST: Discovery S01E09 Spoiler Review/Analysis - Trekyards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaWhe2oR9yA

Published on 13 Nov 2017
Main Website:
http://www.trekyards.com

Cidersomerset

8th January 2018, 18:54

Star Trek: Discovery Season 1 Episode 10

Great return with two confirmed theories that everyone suspected and farewell to
the Doctor as Ash is confirmed as Voq and they are in the Mirror universe visited by
some of the other series.....

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Also introducing captain Tilly and more...

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Some fans have to moan about something and these reviewers don't
like the Mirror universe episodes much ....

Star Trek: Discovery Episode 10 Review - Despite Yourself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJDP-lKR2t0
Published on 7 Jan 2018

Directed by Jonathan Frakes
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Will Lorca become head of the rebellion ? The final scene shows him screaming
in the pain booth in the brig with other prisoners a twist would be he replaces
his counterpart and helps the rebellion before they return to their universe....

Cidersomerset

9th January 2018, 00:09

I really enjoyed this episode as did the Trekies below on the whole...

ST: Discovery S01E10 Spoiler Review/Analysis - Trekyards

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Published on 8 Jan 2018
Main Website:
http://www.trekyards.com

Smell the Roses

12th January 2018, 15:06

This last episode blew us away, very entertaining. I didn't like the ending how they left the captain in the torture room while continuing on with their romance, but the rest of it was good! My favorite part was Tilly as the Mirror Universe captain.

petra

12th January 2018, 16:03

I was certainly blown away! Did not expect that surprise..
My favorite part was the warning

Cidersomerset

15th January 2018, 20:56

This is turning into 'Dark Trek' and I'm enjoying it.....

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Star Trek Discovery Episode 1x11 Philippa Georgiou Becomes The Emperor

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Published on 15 Jan 2018
Star Trek Discovery Episode 1x11 Philippa Georgiou
Becomes The Emperor || Star Trek Discovery Scenes.

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Mixed reviews ....

Star Trek Weekly: Discovery Season 1 Episode 11 Review & Reaction | AfterBuzz TV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeK1KVaLbMc
Streamed live 15 hours ago
Hosts discuss Star Trek Discovery for the episode "The Wolf Inside."
AFTERBUZZ TV — Star Trek Discovery edition, is a weekly "after show" for fans of
CBS' Star Trek Discovery. In this episode hosts Frank Moran, Kari Lane, and
Christian Bladt discuss Season 1 episode 11.

Cidersomerset

16th January 2018, 18:12

Some of these guys over analyse which amuses me...They enjoyed it.

ST: Discovery S01E11 Spoiler Review/Analysis - Trekyards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6Rrh2jgDo4

Published on 15 Jan 2018

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Mixed reviews not impressed with some plot points and execution...

Star Trek: Discovery Episode 11 Review - The Wolf Inside

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhFVVdHn7ik

Published on 14 Jan 2018
Star Trek: Discovery Episode 11 Review - The Wolf Inside

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review, star trek discovery episode 11 recap, star trek: discovery review

Cidersomerset

22nd January 2018, 10:18

Another very good if short continuation of the mirror
universe story line with some more reveals and theory
confirmations....

http://wwwimage2.cbsstatic.com/thumbnails/videos/w848/CBS_Production_Entertainment_VMS/647/927/2018/01/21/1139918403660/CBS_STAR_TREK_DISCOVERY_112_CIAN_IMAGE_FINAL_copy_thumb_Master.jpg

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Star Trek: Discovery Episode 12 Review - Vaulting Ambition
Jawiin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFAGjZYZrw0

Published on 21 Jan 2018
Star Trek: Discovery Episode 12 Review - Vaulting Ambition

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Star Trek Weekly: Discovery Season 1 Episode 12 Review
& Reaction | AfterBuzz TV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIhVQnemFsE
Streamed live 4 hours ago..22/1/18
Hosts discuss Star Trek Discovery for the episode "Vaulting Ambition."

Cidersomerset

23rd January 2018, 11:34

ST: Discovery S01E12 Spoiler Review/Analysis - Trekyards

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Published on 22 Jan 2018

Main Website:
http://www.trekyards.com

Navigator

26th January 2018, 02:24

Just watched last episode now .. mind blown .. love the Lorca reveal / connection. Only two episodes left? :(

KiwiElf

26th January 2018, 04:35

Just watched last episode now .. mind blown .. love the Lorca reveal / connection. Only two episodes left? :(

Awesome, huh? Has more twists than my curly hair! As far as I know, there are 15 episodes in total, but the good news is, it has been renewed for a second Season (and no doubt an "interesting" cliff-hanger finale for this season) :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Discovery

Cidersomerset

30th January 2018, 12:02

RIP Lorca ....Is it the end for Jason Isaacs ? ...Is Prime Lorca alive.

Star Trek: Discovery Season 1, Episode 13 Review
What The Flick?!

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Published on 29 Jan 2018
Star Trek: Discovery, season 1, episode thirteen is reviewed by the What
The Flick?! panel. Kim Horcher, Jacqueline Coly, Jason Carter and Matt
Atchity discuss. Tell us what you think in the comments below!

New worlds and civilizations are explored by new members of the "Star Trek" universe

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Cidersomerset

30th January 2018, 12:19

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ST: Discovery S01E13 Spoiler Review/Analysis - Trekyards

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Navigator

5th February 2018, 17:13

Last night's episode (14 -war without war within) was again epic. And once again we have a new captain for Discovery -- and it's not Saru or Burnham ... :) This season only got better from the start.

Cidersomerset

6th February 2018, 17:34

The 'Empire/Federation' strikes back.....Another good episode...

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Star Trek Discovery - The Emperor takes command of the USS Discovery

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Published on 5 Feb 2018
The Emperor takes command of the USS Discovery.

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Star Trek Weekly: Discovery Season 1 Episode 14 Review & Reaction | AfterBuzz TV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN3eraZQ6Ys
Streamed live on 4 Feb 2018
Hosts discuss Star Trek Discovery for the episode "The War Without,
The War Within."

KiwiElf

12th February 2018, 08:00

SPOILER ALERT!
Guess who - and what - shows up in the last few seconds of this Season's cliffhanger Finale of STAR TREK DISCOVERY? ;) ... The one and only... (AWESOME!) :dancing::Party:

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Cidersomerset

12th February 2018, 16:13

shows up in the last few seconds of this Season's cliffhanger Finale of STAR TREK DISCOVERY

I presume Spock is going to congratulate and visit his sister...

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I enjoyed the episode as a fun romp but I did not like it
as the conclusion of the season it felt far to rushed......

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Star Trek Weekly: Discovery Season 1
Episode 15 Review & Reaction | AfterBuzz TV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SkJHIrNUdQ
Streamed live 10 hours ago
Hosts discuss Star Trek Discovery for the episode "Will You Take My Hand?."
AFTERBUZZ TV — Star Trek Discovery edition, is a weekly "after show" for fans of
CBS' Star Trek Discovery. In this episode hosts Frank Moran, Cherry Davis, and
Christian Bladt discuss Season 1 episode 15.

Navigator

12th February 2018, 18:03

...

I enjoyed the episode as a fun romp but I did not like it
as the conclusion of the season it felt far to rushed......

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I also thought it felt a bit rushed; a two hour episode may have been better - then they'd be able to get the story a little deeper ... And there was a part of me really looking forward to seeing the Klingons get a thrashing of their homeworld, but at the same time, this episode brought back and restored the "Star Trek" ethics and morals that so many of the original series fans where turned off by the lack thereof, throughout most of the rest of the season while Discovery was being captained by mirror Universe Lorca. So in a sense the last few episodes made all that "crying", well, for nothing, as it was all an intentional part of the story.

So it also seems the main theme for the season is also at and end, and I suspect we'll start the next season with a new theme. So rather than having standalone episodes, perhaps they've gone to "standalone seasons"? in regards to ongoing storyline? I guess we'll find out later how much the Klingon war is still the main story.

Smell the Roses

17th February 2018, 15:30

KiwiElf

23rd April 2018, 10:26

Filming Begins On STAR TREK: DISCOVERY Season 2
By Kyle Hadyniak
April 16, 2018 // 3:14 pm

http://www.treknews.net/2018/04/16/star-trek-discovery-season-2-filming-begins/

The wait to find out just what in the world the Enterprise was doing at the end of season one is a step closer, as filming begins for the second season of Star Trek: Discovery today.

Doug Jones, who plays Commander Saru on the series, noted the commencement of filming by shaving his head for the role in a video posted to Twitter.

Jonathan Frakes, who directed a first season episode of the series (and will direct at least one in the second season) wished the crew good luck, saying “Have a great shoot.”

Star Trek: Discovery writers acknowledged the start of filming as well.

The writers for season two have said the new season will tie more closely into existing continuity, and apparently the first moves toward this goal was the casting of Anson Mount (of Hell on Wheels fame) as Captain Pike, as well as the promised appearance (in some unspecified way) of Spock.

Like its first season, Discovery will film at Pinewood Studios in Toronto.

TrekNews.net is your dedicated source for all the latest news on Star Trek: Discovery. Follow @TrekNewsnet on Twitter, TrekNews on Facebook, @TrekNews on Instagram and TrekNewsnet on YouTube.

Additional info & videos at link

KiwiElf

29th May 2018, 08:12

Star Trek: Discovery season 2 - Release date, cast, timeline and everything you need to know

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/star-trek-discovery/feature/a843066/star-trek-discovery-season-2-release-date-cast-episodes-klingon-theory/

Warning: This article contains spoilers for the first season of Star Trek: Discovery

Star Trek: Discovery is definitely coming back for season two, which is exciting news – season one went from strength to strength, with twists and mini-reboots keeping the series fresh.

Season one came to a close after a second half filled with twists, big deaths and adventures in the Mirror Universe, with the show delivering a thrilling final reveal before the credits rolled.

But what else awaits us in the second season? Here's everything we know so far.

Star Trek Discovery season 2 release date: When do we next get more Trek?

Co-creator Alex Kurtzman has explained that season two won't land until 2019 at the earliest. "Breaking story is, in some ways, the easier and faster thing; it's the ability to execute on it that's much harder. We want to take the right amount of time and don't want to rush," he outlined.

Where's a warp drive (or even a spore drive) when you need one?

Production officially got underway in late April 2018, with Kurtzman in the director's chair on the season premiere. The second season is expected to run for 13 episodes, though that could always be extended - the first season had its initial order increased by two, taking it to 15 episodes.

Star Trek Discovery season 2 cast: Who's in it?

Despite being partly inspired by Game of Thrones, Discovery didn't end up killing off that many major characters in the second half of the first season.

One big exit though was Jason Isaacs as Captain Gabriel Lorca after it was revealed that he was actually from the Mirror Universe and after he attempted a coup, he was stabbed and thrown into a ship's reactor by the Mirror Universe's Emperor, Philippa Georgiou (Michelle Yeoh).

Isaacs is up for a return though and Kurtzman confirmed to EW following the finale that Lorca could return (somehow) to the show, so we might be seeing him again. (Maybe we'll meet the Lorca from the Prime Universe?)

Same goes for Yeoh, since Georgiou was allowed to roam free after Michael Burnham (Sonequa Martin-Green) brought her over from the Mirror Universe – and we might not have seen the last of Wilson Cruz's Hugh Culber either, despite his controversial death.

All we can say for sure about season two is that we'll see all of the USS Discovery's crew return so alongside Martin-Green, that includes Doug Jones (Saru), Anthony Rapp (Paul Stamets) and Mary Wiseman (Sylvia Tilly).

And while the show didn't kill off Shazad Latif's Ash Tyler after the expected reveal that he was the Klingon Voq, he is no longer on board the USS Discovery as he chose to join L'Rell (Mary Chieffo) as she united the Klingons.

Kurtzman has confirmed that they have "great plans for his character in season two", so Latif will be back, even though the Federation-Klingon War has ended.

As for new additions, stand-up comic and actress Tig Notaro is confirmed to be guesting as Chief Engineer Denise Reno of the USS Hiawatha (a ship that has so far only been seen in the video game Starfleet Command).

Star Trek Discovery season 2 timeline: Where does the show fit?

One element that's confused fans throughout season one is the timeline.

We've seen major differences between what's happening in Discovery and how it'll eventually line up with the original series (which starts 10 years after the events in Discovery) – but we shouldn't worry too much as Kurtzman clearly has a plan.

"We are wildly aware of everything that appears to be a deviation from canon. We will close out each of those issues when we close out our ten-year period and hit TOS," he said.

Part of that plan was the big reveal at the end of the first season that saw the USS Discovery answer a distress call from none other than the USS Enterprise and Captain Pike.

"I think with Enterprise's arrival in the finale we recognise that the audience has a lot of questions about our synchronicity with the original series, which really means our synchronicity with canon," he outlined.

"So the promise of the Enterprise holds the answers to a lot of those questions, including Spock's relationship with his half-sister who he's never mentioned. Which does not necessarily mean you're going to see Spock, just that we owe an answer to that question."

Trek veteran Jonathan Frakes - known for playing Riker on TNG and for directing multiple episodes and movie spin-offs- has since let slip that a young Spock will indeed feature in season two, appearing opposite a young Burnham in flashbacks.

As for Pike, will he be a 'fully fledged character' next season? According to co-showrunner Aaron Harberts, If there ever were to be a captain from canon that one could explore... Christopher Pike would certainly be that one."

Inhumans star Anson Mount was confirmed to be playing Discovery's version of Pike in April 2018 (replacing Jeffrey Hunter, who of course played the part in Star Trek's original unaired pilot).

As for who else other than Pike is aboard Enterprise, Kurtzman has teased that there'll be "some surprises there" for fans - but again, don't expect Discovery to defy established canon.

In May 2018, executive producer Gretchen J Berg reiterated that "a lot of consideration has been put into" making sure the show will fit into the timeline, with "no loose ends".

Star Trek: Discovery season 2 plot: What can we expect?

The Enterprise will play a significant role in season two though, but Kurtzman has promised that it will not "overshadow" the USS Discovery.

Away from the Enterprise, Harberts has promised that season two will feel more like traditional Trek: "We have time to do things like more away missions, newer planets. These are stories that might fall a little bit more into a framework of allegory that people love to get from Trek."

Section 31 - a clandestine organisation which claims to protect the security interests of the United Federation of Planets - is expected to play a major role in Discovery's second season.

First introduced in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Section 31 features in a deleted scene cut from Discovery's first scene finale (below), as Mirror Georgiou is approached by the mysterious Leland (Alan Van Sprang), who is looking to recruit her.

"It was the cliffhanger from season 1, and they pulled it and made it the season 2 teaser trailer," Van Sprang later revealed, adding that Section 31 and his character, the organisation's chief, will be "a massive part" of the new episodes.

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But there are currently no plans to revisit the Mirror Universe, with Gretchen J Berg explaining, "The Mirror Universe was perfect for season one, because one of the themes of the season was literally self-discovery for Michael Burnham, figuring out who she was.

"In order to return to Mirror, we would have to have a really good reason to go, better than the reason that we went this year."

In terms of structure, we can expect the new run of episodes to continue with the first season's structure of having standalone stories that fit within a larger plot. "It will be serialised, yes, always, but we do love the idea of getting to do individual episodes in the context of a serialised storyline, and you can look forward to more of that," Harberts told EW.

Star Trek: Discovery season 2 trailer: When will it land?

Usually we'd say you could expect a trailer during San Diego Comic-Con, but given season two is looking at a 2019 launch, there might not be any footage ready in time for July.

We'd be happy to be proved wrong, but we'd expect to see a first teaser in late 2018.

We already have the first teaser, featuring the voices of at least two former TOS actors... note TOS Uniforms (upgraded); & Burnham enters the quarters (note the "room number") of a special crew member aboard the Enterprise?

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On a side note; rumour has it that not one, but two, new STAR TREK movies are planned for the near future, at least one to be directed by Quentin Tarantino & possibly "R" Rated... and one of them won't be set in J.J. Abrams' "Kelvin" Timeline... (I'll start a new thread for that when the time comes...) ;)

https://movieweb.com/star-trek-4-tarantino-two-movies-planned-paramount/

Cidersomerset

29th May 2018, 09:15

Star Trek: Discovery season 2 - Release date, cast, timeline and everything you need to know

Looks Good I hope they keep it more 'gritty' than fluffy.......:star:

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Harris (Section 31)
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Talking of which the Expanse has just been saved for a fourth season and after
watching most of the space based scy fy series created for TV & cinema this for me
is one of the best to date. Based off a on going series of novels its similar in scope ,
vision and world building and reality to GOT which has moved history/myth
fantasy onto a new level. The last 30yrs has seen gradual improvement in effects
but the last few years some TV shows have now reached movie levels......

The Expanse out grew the Scy - fy channel who after three great seasons
announced they could not continue the show for financial reasons to do with how
they marketed it. So a fan based campaign focused on Netflix & Amazon payed off.

The Expanse cast discuss the fan campaign to save the show at LA Talk Radio - #SaveTheExpanse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9pim1x3Aio
Published on 22 May 2018..( 4 mins ).....you can't stop the work!
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The Expanse Season 4 Announcement (With Jeff Bezos) - See Cast Reactions | Rocinante Is Safe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5RVBIcXjUo
Published on 26 May 2018....( 2 mins)...

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New Zealand based Enchantment of Eternity a Trekkie ,Expanse and all round scy
-fy nerd give his reactions....

The Expanse renewed for Season 4 at Amazon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfefWKPbERo

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The Expanse - Epstein Drive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETUEIHWvUMs
Published on 19 May 2018
Story of the invention of the Epstein Drive. Author(s) James S. A. Corey were often
asked, "How does the Epstein Drive work." Their answer, "Really well."

As a book reader and huge fan of The Expanse this clip was probably my favorite
from the show. A fictional historic look at how Mars effectively broke from Earth
and began their journey to colonize the solar system.

KiwiElf

26th July 2018, 02:10

Latest Trailer for STAR TREK: DISCOVERY, Season 2... Now we begin to see where the Enterprise, Captain Pike & Spock will fit into the new season... :)

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Mark (Star Mariner)

6th August 2018, 12:30

Patrick Stewart to return as Jean-Luc Picard in new series!

Lots of things happening in Trek right now, and I could hardly believe this story:

After previous rumours, it has been confirmed that a new CBS All Access series focusing on Jean-Luc Picard is happening, which "will tell the story of the next chapter of Picard's life".

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Stewart confirmed the news at the Las Vegas Star Trek convention, saying: "I will always be very proud to have been a part of Star Trek: The Next Generation, but when we wrapped that final movie in the spring of 2002, I truly felt my time with Star Trek had run its natural course.

"It is, therefore, an unexpected but delightful surprise to find myself excited and invigorated to be returning to Jean-Luc Picard and to explore new dimensions within him.

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/star-trek-discovery/news/a863178/patrick-stewart-star-trek-return/

There's at least one other Star Trek series in development as well, and two films.

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/star-trek-discovery/feature/a860248/star-trek-discovery-franchise-movies/

apokalypse

6th August 2018, 12:56

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i can really feel what he said about after watching TNG and see the world change his mind return as Picard....i always recommend Star Trek produce by Gene Roddenberry.

DeDukshyn

7th August 2018, 21:45

"Season two Klingons to have a completely new look ..."

Looks like they plan on redoing the look of the Klingons, but at the same time indicating further why they season one Klingons looked the way they did ...

The creative team behind Star Trek: Discovery has repeatedly said the show’s second season will provide many answers to lingering questions about how Star Trek: Discovery fits into established Star Trek canon. Hetrick offered a hint about how the series' very different looking Klingons may fit in with the Klingons fans have come to know from previous Star Trek shows and it has to do with how appearance is tied to family, like almost everything else in Klingon culture.

“In season two, you are going to see much different designs,” Hetrick said. “You are going to see different houses you haven’t seen before. One of the most important things to us was that at this point in canon, as we head towards the current version of unification, the houses really each grow up on different planets. It is an Empire, it is not just Qo’noS…We have seen six of the great houses in close up in season one. As we move forward into the next season, I promise that we will continue exploring and unpacking and unfolding that infinitely interesting story of what the Klingon culture looks like on a wider level.”

As for why the Klingons who followed T’Kuvma looked so unique, specifically why they all lacked hair while Klingons in the past have had long manes and distinctive facial hair, Hetrick hinted that could be explained by the group’s religious convictions.

“If you really think about season one, and the Klingon storyline, we had this incredibly ritualistic season with them,” he said. “It was really about unification, and igniting the beacon, the Light of Kahless, and bringing him back…so we integrated that very much and thought a lot about that.”

Hetrick then went on to note that the way Kahless unified the Klingon Empire, according to past Star Trek canon, was “by cutting off his hair, and dipping it into a volcano and forging the first bat’leth and tempering in the ocean of Qo’noS.”

http://comicbook.com/startrek/2018/08/07/star-trek-discovery-season-2-klingon-redesign/