What has been your biggest bubble burst to date for or by you?

[ZooLife]

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What has been your biggest bubble burst to date?

For me, right up there would be how many bubbles there are that can be burst. Secondly, how personal bubble bursting is. A bubble bust may have long burst for one but completely and utterly exist for another. Thirdly, that people will kill to protect and die for a particular bubble. Fourthly, how big the biggest bubble is.

It's like a rabbit hole of bubbles. Each bubble burst leads to one even bigger.

[Carmody]

The biggest one is left for last, of course, and should never come before, in any form. It has to come of it's own volition.

One basic one, though, is that the riddles must be self solved, otherwise they mean nothing and their impact is incorrect and dysfunctional. There are no shortcuts... except that which costs more...

[KiwiElf]

I'm still collecting bubbles... they seem to reproduce ;)

[ZooLife]

I'm still collecting bubbles... they seem to reproduce ;)

Perhaps I can speed things up for you, bubble wrap anyone?

http://img0.joyreactor.com/pics/post/comics-WUMO-bubble-wrap-546394.jpeg

[dim]

truth is an awful long series of disillusionments

[norman]

The first thing I think of, as a personal burst bubble, is that the hippy music scene was almost definitely some form of ( military ) psyop.

I was SO, into all that.

[petra]

The truth shall set you free, but first it will p-word you off :)

[dim]

The first thing I think of, as a personal burst bubble, is that the hippy music scene was almost definitely some form of ( military ) psyop.

I was SO, into all that.

I hope you, and all quick to jump the mkultra and the rest of what have you bandwagon and blame the dark cabal for everything, snap out of it as soon as as possible.
You just can't possibly believe all that music was a psyop, that's psy...cosis and the psyops are very happy you think that way.

[ulli]

Career, money, fame, marriage, kids, and now dogs. In that order.
The only bubble left is my cats.
Oh, another biggie: back in 1979, "Man cannot DO!""Everything just happens"

[onevoice]

My first bubble was that I thought this was a democratic country, in that my vote counted. The DNC email hack is one example of disclosure to the public. The 2nd bubble is that our money is fiat money, with no intrinsic value.
I think the biggest bubble is that we are living in an interactive hologram, much like the movie "Matrix". Elon Musk himself is leaning toward this way, looking at how realistic our video games and simulation gear has progressed. In not too far distant future, he is saying that games will be indistinguishable from reality. So I must find the "magic" exit word or phrase to exit our holographic trap (http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/elon-musk-ai-artificial-intelligence-computer-simulation-gaming-virtual-reality-a7060941.html).

[waves]

That when people grow up they're adults. Instead, I found myself in a world of liars, psychopaths, thieves, perverts, lazies, avoiders, unreliables and conscienceless, manipulative and greedy leaders, bosses and militaries with no interest whatsoever in finishing maturing.

[Carmody]

When having a discussion on the merits of a Hillary or a Trump, with a friend, over the phone..I say things like..well....:

"I don't know if any of that stuff I linked (to you in conversation or email) is true, or not.

All I (hah!) really know is that there are a bunch of contrasted shapes and colors that my learned brain has decided means words.... and my internal ego voice speaks them in my head, and I derive meaning of some sort from that internal dialogue.

All I (hah!) really know, is that I am a figment of my non-existent imagination.

That... and anything else... is just conjecture.

It's a catch 22 right down to the bottom of it. And no one is sure if there is a bottom or not.

The only fact we know truly exists... the one single thing..... is that there are no facts.

The one single fact in all of existence...is a paradox --both true and false.

Everything else is stacked levels and layers of conjecture."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This is due to mundane Newtonian reality existing not in the atoms themselves, but only in comparison of one to the next. Only in comparative differential ------does reality exist.

And there's your quantum paradox, as the other reality the quantum/spiritual/timeless reality exists beyond the Newtonian thing, it is the other half of the paradox/system.

At the peak of scientific theory, you will find these discussions and they are considered real, as real as can be. 100% fundamental. ie, that philosophy's peak ~is~ the origins of science (methods of logic as applied to physicality), and that science does not rule philosophy. Science is the intemperate bastard child which keeps trying to -in it's near total ignorance-...to kill the parent called philosophy.

Science, via it's explorations... is being forced back to the path. The strange considerations of quantum physics is showing the way. Forcing the return to the path. Logic, if followed throgh, has a way of doing that.

But... most people can't handle it (in their given position in progression), so it is rarely brought down to everyday life, even though it is the fundamental of all.

[Bill Ryan]

The first thing I think of, as a personal burst bubble, is that the hippy music scene was almost definitely some form of ( military ) psyop.

I was SO, into all that.

100% the same answer for me. Norman's referring to Dave McGowan's detailed, important (and rather shocking) research into the origins of the music revolution in the 60s and 70s, based in Laurel Canyon, in LA.

Book here:
http://projectavalon.net/Weird_Scenes_Inside_the_Canyon_Dave_McGowan.pdf

Also here, in the Avalon Library:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89859-The-Avalon-Library&p=1058571&viewfull=1#post1058571


You just can't possibly believe all that music was a psyopNo, not all of it, and Norman didn't say that. But quite a lot of it, including the main influences.

Do read the book for more. It really is quite a bubble-burster. I really didn't want all those facts to be true.

[ZooLife]

Career, money, fame, marriage, kids, and now dogs. In that order.
The only bubble left is my cats.
Oh, another biggie: back in 1979, "Man cannot DO!""Everything just happens"

As I was meditating on your post, ulli, a song appeared within my consciousness:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQCZD7FRL90

It's a song that I imagine embodies your experience and of no doubt a song of a list of bubble bursts. In fact, when i imagine my funeral, I picture this song being played at it. On one level it's quite the morose song but on another it's freeing.

[delfine]

Career, money, fame, marriage, kids, and now dogs. In that order.
The only bubble left is my cats.
Oh, another biggie: back in 1979, "Man cannot DO!""Everything just happens"

Dogs? ...Dogs??? ...Oh noooo, what happened?

[dim]

Do read the book for more. It really is quite a bubble-burster. I really didn't want all those facts to be true.
But i did read that book back then, and it appeared to me that it itself was the psyop
it felt exactly like Billy Meier case, a carefully planed operation to discredit the whole
consciousness bloom of the 60's.

[Carmody]

The first thing I think of, as a personal burst bubble, is that the hippy music scene was almost definitely some form of ( military ) psyop.

I was SO, into all that.

100% the same answer for me. Norman's referring to Dave McGowan's detailed, important (and rather shocking) research into the origins of the music revolution in the 60s and 70s, based in Laurel Canyon, in LA.

Book here:
http://projectavalon.net/Weird_Scenes_Inside_the_Canyon_Dave_McGowan.pdf

Also here, in the Avalon Library:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89859-The-Avalon-Library&p=1058571&viewfull=1#post1058571


You just can't possibly believe all that music was a psyopNo, not all of it, and Norman didn't say that. But quite a lot of it, including the main influences.

Do read the book for more. It really is quite a bubble-burster. I really didn't want all those facts to be true.

Which takes you to things like rap singers (rap origins) and their management. Then to media control, the 6 people controlling 90% of all major US media.

After all, we just want to be free. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz4pIIiBFn8)

On a similar note, one might consider looking into the ownership and control of the incredible number of high profile pornography websites.

Who owns and runs them? Who are they connected to?

Approximately 1/3rd of all internet traffic is pornography.

Then internet gaming. And video gaming.

Then the people who moved into the virtual reality business. A considerable number of military people and corporations are in the area of virtual reality systems. The cross transplants from the military are truly mind boggling.

Oculus (virtual reality headsets), BTW, changed their previously provocative logo.

https://www.avibeweb.com/images/imagebank/Blog/2015%20Logo/oculus.jpg

[Foxie Loxie]

In case anybody hasn't surmised it yet by my posts....it would be when I finally realized the straight-laced religion I grew up in was totally false & didn't "work" like it was supposed to!! :facepalm: Thanks to the Forum I AM finding my answers! :typing: Yeah!! :clapping:

[ZooLife]

It makes sense that if one wanted to steer society to their whims, two places they would wish to have the most control over would be TV/ theater and the music industry. Basically anywhere where information reaches the greatest number of people on a consistent basis. After all, programming requires constant and consistent maintenance to maintain an illusion.

Makes one wonder what the world would look like if there was no centralized control over information.

[Carmody]

It's about the infiltration of the body/avatar in the emotions, outside of the mental centers of consciousness/logic/inner dialogue.

When it comes via that doorway, it is invisible and unreal for the majority of the public.

Like a parasite slipping in and controlling, via the unrealized pathways of access. Most seriously so.

They keep hitting that access button, because it works when creating bulk/mass drives and considerations. The best plans are simple plans, ones with a history of effectiveness.

[ulli]

Career, money, fame, marriage, kids, and now dogs. In that order.
The only bubble left is my cats.
Oh, another biggie: back in 1979, "Man cannot DO!""Everything just happens"

Dogs? ...Dogs??? ...Oh noooo, what happened?

Well, they are huge, they are still puppies, and they are Sagittarians.
Sitting here I'm looking at my gardener digging a 300 m trench where the wire is going that will send slight electric shocks into their latest collars (4th set in two months) to limit their destructiveness.
Training has not worked as they will return to full naughtiness as soon as we are out of sight. The list of destruction is pretty long right now. Expensive bones we get from the pet shop vanish, never to be seen again, but there is evidence of burial sites. I told my husband that the destruction factor of thieves is small compared to the suffering factor these animals have caused me. And I was always a dog lover, having been raised with dogs on a farm, and owned some grateful rescue dogs, but this pair is a two-headed monster.

[ZooLife]

Do read the book for more. It really is quite a bubble-burster. I really didn't want all those facts to be true.
But i did read that book back then, and it appeared to me that it itself was the psyop
it felt exactly like Billy Meier case, a carefully planed operation to discredit the whole
consciousness bloom of the 60's.

This idea isn't entirely out of the question as with any large operation, there will be unintended consequences and counter intelligence measures would need to be deployed in an attempt to clean up the mess.

One way to clean up the 'mess' would be an attempt to convince people to throw out the baby with the bath water.

An awaking public needs to be kept off balance to avoid it forming coherency on the situation at hand.

[avid]

The first thing I think of, as a personal burst bubble, is that the hippy music scene was almost definitely some form of ( military ) psyop.

I was SO, into all that.

100% the same answer for me. Norman's referring to Dave McGowan's detailed, important (and rather shocking) research into the origins of the music revolution in the 60s and 70s, based in Laurel Canyon, in LA.

Book here:
http://projectavalon.net/Weird_Scenes_Inside_the_Canyon_Dave_McGowan.pdf

Also here, in the Avalon Library:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89859-The-Avalon-Library&p=1058571&viewfull=1#post1058571


You just can't possibly believe all that music was a psyopNo, not all of it, and Norman didn't say that. But quite a lot of it, including the main influences.

Do read the book for more. It really is quite a bubble-burster. I really didn't want all those facts to be true.

Which takes you to things like rap singers (rap origins) and their management. Then to media control, the 6 people controlling 90% of all major US media.

After all, we just want to be free. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz4pIIiBFn8)

On a similar note, one might consider looking into the ownership and control of the incredible number of high profile pornography websites.

Who owns and runs them? Who are they connected to?

Approximately 1/3rd of all internet traffic is pornography.

Then internet gaming. And video gaming.

Then the people who moved into the virtual reality business. A considerable number of military people and corporations are in the area of virtual reality systems. The cross transplants from the military are truly mind boggling.

Truly sickening, I loved being in the sixties/early seventies 'new age' movement. The Roundhouse in London, the concerts, arts, independent cinema, the new healthy food, the fashion and travel freedoms.
I knew about the deliberate antagonistic music negativity years ago, divisive, racial, and globally damaging. The 'entertainment' industry trashed my manufacturers insignia on my car, encouraged local ne'er-do-wells to invade our homes with the knowledge the police could not do much, and kept us in fear for years. We developed gated housing, like that in African countries.
I've moved away from that, village locals care and trust, small communities notice the unusual.
So very sad that our children have become literally 'de-moralised', and it's acceptable!

[ZooLife]

If one looks to the internet, all information is discredited by 'someone' whether it be ideas on what is going on in the world all the way to product reviews and beyond. If all information is discredited then what would one give credence too?

The controllers of this world would say, to them of course, give credence to them. They would like you to believe there is no other.

[ulli]

The first thing I think of, as a personal burst bubble, is that the hippy music scene was almost definitely some form of ( military ) psyop.

I was SO, into all that.

100% the same answer for me. Norman's referring to Dave McGowan's detailed, important (and rather shocking) research into the origins of the music revolution in the 60s and 70s, based in Laurel Canyon, in LA.

Book here:
http://projectavalon.net/Weird_Scenes_Inside_the_Canyon_Dave_McGowan.pdf

Also here, in the Avalon Library:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89859-The-Avalon-Library&p=1058571&viewfull=1#post1058571


You just can't possibly believe all that music was a psyopNo, not all of it, and Norman didn't say that. But quite a lot of it, including the main influences.

Do read the book for more. It really is quite a bubble-burster. I really didn't want all those facts to be true.

Which takes you to things like rap singers (rap origins) and their management. Then to media control, the 6 people controlling 90% of all major US media.

After all, we just want to be free. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz4pIIiBFn8)

On a similar note, one might consider looking into the ownership and control of the incredible number of high profile pornography websites.

Who owns and runs them? Who are they connected to?

Approximately 1/3rd of all internet traffic is pornography.

Then internet gaming. And video gaming.

Then the people who moved into the virtual reality business. A considerable number of military people and corporations are in the area of virtual reality systems. The cross transplants from the military are truly mind boggling.

Truly sickening, I loved being in the sixties/early seventies 'new age' movement. The Roundhouse in London, the concerts, arts, independent cinema, the new healthy food, the fashion and travel freedoms.
I knew about the deliberate antagonistic music negativity years ago, divisive, racial, and globally damaging. The 'entertainment' industry trashed my manufacturers insignia on my car, encouraged local ne'er-do-wells to invade our homes with the knowledge the police could not do much, and kept us in fear for years. We developed gated housing, like that in African countries.
I've moved away from that, village locals care and trust, small communities notice the unusual.
So very sad that our children have become literally 'de-moralised', and it's acceptable!
Oh Avid, we must have met before. Roundhouse back then? Maybe Dingwalls, too?

[ZooLife]

Oculus (virtual reality headsets), BTW, changed their previously provocative logo.

https://www.avibeweb.com/images/imagebank/Blog/2015%20Logo/oculus.jpg

Interesting post, Carmody.

A corporation trying to stay a step ahead of the awaking public?

[3(C)+me]

I am on a bit of a Dave McGowan reading run right now, just finished his Laural Canyon book (little mention of Joni Mitchell or Mr Young, Whew, dodged a bullet there), funny I don't live very far from all that.
I have had too many bubble busting revelations over the years but here is the latest that was really a big one for me.

All religions are fronts for the Annunaki, and as such, are just control mechanisms for the masses. All of them. Jesus is most likely a composite figure for some other prior religious figure. Bible is a edit job etc.
Sometimes I just want to go to bed and not get up.

I do love dogs but would never get a puppy, as one dog trainer told me, puppies are cute but awful.

[Sierra]

Career, money, fame, marriage, kids, and now dogs. In that order.
The only bubble left is my cats.
Oh, another biggie: back in 1979, "Man cannot DO!""Everything just happens"

Cats will never burst your bubble. :)

Ulli, when training animals, persistence, persistence, persistence. Ever watch TV show with Cesar Milan? He has several. A truly spiritual dog trainer.

Biggest bubble burst to date is old age. It really isn't for sissies. I'm getting to the point I'd rather be addicted to something, than be in chronic, unrelenting pain.

Some comedown to realize that about myself... :facepalm:

But so far, I refuse to cross my personal line in the sand.

[avid]

The first thing I think of, as a personal burst bubble, is that the hippy music scene was almost definitely some form of ( military ) psyop.

I was SO, into all that.

100% the same answer for me. Norman's referring to Dave McGowan's detailed, important (and rather shocking) research into the origins of the music revolution in the 60s and 70s, based in Laurel Canyon, in LA.

Book here:
http://projectavalon.net/Weird_Scenes_Inside_the_Canyon_Dave_McGowan.pdf

Also here, in the Avalon Library:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89859-The-Avalon-Library&p=1058571&viewfull=1#post1058571


You just can't possibly believe all that music was a psyopNo, not all of it, and Norman didn't say that. But quite a lot of it, including the main influences.

Do read the book for more. It really is quite a bubble-burster. I really didn't want all those facts to be true.

Which takes you to things like rap singers (rap origins) and their management. Then to media control, the 6 people controlling 90% of all major US media.

After all, we just want to be free. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz4pIIiBFn8)

On a similar note, one might consider looking into the ownership and control of the incredible number of high profile pornography websites.

Who owns and runs them? Who are they connected to?

Approximately 1/3rd of all internet traffic is pornography.

Then internet gaming. And video gaming.

Then the people who moved into the virtual reality business. A considerable number of military people and corporations are in the area of virtual reality systems. The cross transplants from the military are truly mind boggling.

Truly sickening, I loved being in the sixties/early seventies 'new age' movement. The Roundhouse in London, the concerts, arts, independent cinema, the new healthy food, the fashion and travel freedoms.
I knew about the deliberate antagonistic music negativity years ago, divisive, racial, and globally damaging. The 'entertainment' industry trashed my manufacturers insignia on my car, encouraged local ne'er-do-wells to invade our homes with the knowledge the police could not do much, and kept us in fear for years. We developed gated housing, like that in African countries.
I've moved away from that, village locals care and trust, small communities notice the unusual.
So very sad that our children have become literally 'de-moralised', and it's acceptable!
Oh Avid, we must have met before. Roundhouse back then? Maybe Dingwalls, too?

Probably in a seedy cinema mid-afternoon on a design-scive watching Andy Warhol's 'Flesh', on Tottenham Court Road, then sneaking up to Habitat and Heals, for 'client research', then transported to Berkeley Square to do experimental packaging for big money - a dream! I was so lucky to be there then, it was innocent and wonderful, but it transpires to be a horrible manipulation, or was it.....? We are here and now!

[ulli]

The first thing I think of, as a personal burst bubble, is that the hippy music scene was almost definitely some form of ( military ) psyop.

I was SO, into all that.

100% the same answer for me. Norman's referring to Dave McGowan's detailed, important (and rather shocking) research into the origins of the music revolution in the 60s and 70s, based in Laurel Canyon, in LA.

Book here:
http://projectavalon.net/Weird_Scenes_Inside_the_Canyon_Dave_McGowan.pdf

Also here, in the Avalon Library:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89859-The-Avalon-Library&p=1058571&viewfull=1#post1058571


You just can't possibly believe all that music was a psyopNo, not all of it, and Norman didn't say that. But quite a lot of it, including the main influences.

Do read the book for more. It really is quite a bubble-burster. I really didn't want all those facts to be true.

Which takes you to things like rap singers (rap origins) and their management. Then to media control, the 6 people controlling 90% of all major US media.

After all, we just want to be free. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz4pIIiBFn8)

On a similar note, one might consider looking into the ownership and control of the incredible number of high profile pornography websites.

Who owns and runs them? Who are they connected to?

Approximately 1/3rd of all internet traffic is pornography.

Then internet gaming. And video gaming.

Then the people who moved into the virtual reality business. A considerable number of military people and corporations are in the area of virtual reality systems. The cross transplants from the military are truly mind boggling.

Truly sickening, I loved being in the sixties/early seventies 'new age' movement. The Roundhouse in London, the concerts, arts, independent cinema, the new healthy food, the fashion and travel freedoms.
I knew about the deliberate antagonistic music negativity years ago, divisive, racial, and globally damaging. The 'entertainment' industry trashed my manufacturers insignia on my car, encouraged local ne'er-do-wells to invade our homes with the knowledge the police could not do much, and kept us in fear for years. We developed gated housing, like that in African countries.
I've moved away from that, village locals care and trust, small communities notice the unusual.
So very sad that our children have become literally 'de-moralised', and it's acceptable!
Oh Avid, we must have met before. Roundhouse back then? Maybe Dingwalls, too?

Probably in a seedy cinema mid-afternoon on a design-scive watching Andy Warhol's 'Flesh', on Tottenham Court Road, then sneaking up to Habitat and Heals, for 'client research', then transported to Berkeley Square to do experimental packaging for big money - a dream! I was so lucky to be there then, it was innocent and wonderful, but it transpires to be a horrible manipulation, or was it.....? We are here and now!

I showed Andy Warhol's movies in Drury Lane, Covent Garden, where I worked as the projectionist, after college hours. Later when I met him in NY in1974, I found his handshake to be a major bubble burster, as there was nobody home. Flabbiest handshake ever.
Habitat and Neal Street Restaurant, yeah, drifted through there, too, wondering what next to buy or eat. Wasn't there a bead shop next door to the Neal Street Restaurant?That catapulted me to become a jewelry designer.
And then Terence Conran opened a store on Lexington Ave, in Manhattan, together with Mervin Traub, CEO of Bloomingdales, who once climbed up the three floors to my office just to shake my hand.... Been there, done that, and some of those bubbles pop back periodically, as those were such heady times.
And here you are, like a long-lost sister.
No, there was no manipulation in there then; in fact, the elite scrambled to block such a revolution of free-thinking youth from ever happening again. But our generation was cleverer, still, and came up with the internet. Yay!!
Checks and balances.

[Wind]

That appearances can be deceiving.

[Sueanne47]

That when people grow up they're adults. Instead, I found myself in a world of liars, psychopaths, thieves, perverts, lazies, avoiders, unreliables and conscienceless, manipulative and greedy leaders, bosses and militaries with no interest whatsoever in finishing maturing.

I couldnt have put it better myself...great answer!

[3(C)+me]

It seems like waking up is a series of disllusionments.

[Carmody]

It seems like waking up is a series of disillusionments.

The first thing we tend to do when getting past the disillusionment is to scream at everyone to wake up (http://www.veoh.com/watch/v18530452Pd8BdrrG). No soldier like a fresh soldier.

[Ernie Nemeth]

My greatest bubble burst was the death of what I thought was my god. (sudden realization that my idea of god, the idea taught by society, was unrealistic and downright childish)
No matter. He was a small god anyway

[3(C)+me]

It seems like waking up is a series of disillusionments.

The first thing we tend to do when getting past the disillusionment is to scream at everyone to wake up (http://www.veoh.com/watch/v18530452Pd8BdrrG). No soldier like a fresh soldier.




Good luck with that.

[shaberon]

If one looks to the internet, all information is discredited by 'someone' whether it be ideas on what is going on in the world all the way to product reviews and beyond. If all information is discredited then what would one give credence too?

The controllers of this world would say, to them of course, give credence to them. They would like you to believe there is no other.

Very well put. I think that's the core of why very little of anything useful ever really happens.

People almost always return to the "safety in numbers", and so when one misinformed opinion gets attention, it spreads like wildfire and becomes a new "bubble" that we may or may not be able to burst.

For myself, I would say that I was hoodwinked by first Clinton administration, the Alice Bailey-UN camp, believing that "most" foreign interventions were justified, Maurice Strong, and, what's finally come up today, Fetullah Gulen. That's all pretty much in one big interconnected bubble. I was taken in by their clever platitudes, and wasn't able to tell it was a flavored counterpoint they were happy to sell me while...doing things that I wouldn't have agreed with, if any of them had the backbone to say what they were really up to. When they had the "Earth Summit" back then, I was sold on the notion that finally, the major players were going to fix the world...and then at the recent one, 2012 I think, even a little kid could stand up and say that we've gone exactly backwards.

Somewhere between those two summits, I realized the chicanery of it all, but I don't think there was a "Eureka!" moment...it was more of a growing distaste and suspicion that gathered momentum until it disgusted me.

[sheme]

I was a child and children had to grow up and become adult.
Murder of JFK.
Medicine- Doctors are sexual beings & they are prejudice.
If you are in the wrong class it will cost you.
Women are second class citizens.
Sex is compulsory.
Just because you worked for it doesn't mean you get to keep it if you are a woman or in the wrong class.
After you paid for it doesn't mean you can keep it.
If they want your body parts you will die.
If they want your baby they can take it . (Dominican republic)
If they are guilty they may get away with it if they pay enough.
Psychopaths rule the world. natural selection.
9/11 really happened and they got away with it.
MI5/MI6 encourage pedophilia and murder in my name.
My government lie to me every day.
I am a free being and I should be living a spiritual life but I have to play their game to survive.
I am a naturally loving person who loves to help my fellow humans but they poison my brain daily with fear.
Those that I trust screw me and mine every day.
Jesus was a space man and they still lie to me.
I really am Immortal so >
.uck them all.

[Carmody]

The whole idea of you being here is to be forced by body and environment....to make impossible choices.

Everybody knows the best way forward.

So... few risk themselves in order to take it.

You've got an avatar that enforces me first, my children first, my desires first, my fears first.

Then you are pistol whipped into an impossible situation with no simple way out. No way out that fulfills immediate body enforced desires.

That to take the functional path requires maximum effort. Maximum. Maximum risk.

And every time you make a right choice, the pistol whippings, the beatings, the burning, and the death.... will only increase in ferocity.

As, after all.... you've passed the prior hurdle.

There's no point in being incarnated if you are not under total stress that meets and beats your limits.

Heaven on earth requires maximum sacrifice and total commitment. On and in all levels. There is no way of getting around that.

Individual total sacrifice and collective total sacrifice.

All done in perfect balance, under the pressure of a machination that is designed from the ground up to prevent it from ever happening.

The way forward is simple and easy. The way forward is difficult and near impossible.

Both are true, as true as you allow them to be.

Once this earth place's stresses and designs are beaten and mastered by the individual and the collective involved.... then it becomes useless for soul development. Just another boring dead air unchanging paradise. Plenty of those around.

Any developing souls around in those times, will have to move on to some other difficult to master place, as the earth will have become useless for such purposes.

Unless it is reset.

Again.

[petra]

That all parents want their children to "be good"

Simply not true. I failed to take into account the psychopaths again

[lake]

I do not think I ever had any bubbles which could be burst.
When I was a child, a school report stated:


lake does not see a point in this subject and therefore will not participate!

That class was drama. Although I am trying to get involved now a days....well sort of.......lol

Everything I have ever looked at, researched and considered, never shocked me.
It felt like I already knew it to be, as if I was remembering an old story told many times but forgotten.

A big part of the research I still do is regarding cancer and its 'part' in this world. It never shocked me, the things I learnt, even when family members succumb to it, yes I felt the pain of loss but the interaction with the researched, supposed knowledge, never shocked me.

Although there is one exception....I was shocked at the complete lack of any interest by all the friends and family I had in any of the research or provable aspects of this world which I would 'lay bare' before them!
They literally did not want to know!
I was even told by a very close family member regarding my considerations on cancer, after the deaths of other family members, that (and I quote):


maybe they need cancer as there are not enough wars to keep the population down.

Now that did shock me.......so two things that have bust bubbles! I stand corrected, this is a good exercise.



The way forward is simple and easy. The way forward is difficult and near impossible.

Both are true, as true as you allow them to be.

Once this earth place's stresses and designs are beaten and mastered by the individual and the collective involved.... then it becomes useless for soul development. Just another boring dead air unchanging paradise. Plenty of those around.

Any developing souls around in those times, will have to move on to some other difficult to master place, as the earth will have become useless for such purposes.


This is an interesting viewpoint (but then are not all such elicitations interesting?)

I have involved myself in many different 'jobs' here, in just this one past, and all have failed by my intervention!

As an example.......in the early 2000's I started an Internet sales company (having to learn how to write code, databases etc) which in its 2nd year turned over 247000 pounds at 56% profit.
So I closed it down and walked away....vastly too easy.

When I look at it I have always created as many problems as possible for my self.......otherwise I am bored.

What is the point in paradise, a perfect harmony of your own nature. How would that 'situation' (the external presentation of YOU) create a more evolved and knowledgeable YOU?

I still do it, change jobs, take a job I have never done in this life....but then find that I can remember how to do it.......and once I have proved that to 'me'....I leave so as to create for myself some problems!
I have nothing and that is exactly everything which I ever wanted from this place, so my dreams come true, how boringly usual!

Dislike this harmful place but.......change is enlightening!

[Clarity]

When I look at it I have always created as many problems as possible for my self.......otherwise I am bored.

Reminds me of an anonymous quote I once read

"I had a vision, a flash back, where I remembered what it felt like to be all powerful without limitations. I remember that feeling. You think you want to be all powerful without limitations. But you don't. If you don't have limitations then you don't have borders, if you don't have borders you lose the point of existing. You would give away everything just to go back for limitations in order to have fun in this game of infinity."

[Ernie Nemeth]

Sheme
I was a child and children had to grow up and become adult.

That was my daughter's fear also. Now she regrets being an adult and pines for her childhood, only when she ponders such things. It has caused some anxiety issues to flair up from time to time. I totally get this one. Childhood, you are insulated, kept safe, pampered. Things were simple then, and fun. Others did the worrying and thinking and striving for you.

but as Charmody says:
Once this earth place's stresses and designs are beaten and mastered by the individual and the collective involved.... then it becomes useless for soul development. Just another boring dead air unchanging paradise. Plenty of those around.


If there is One there is Me; there is silence and peace. If there is two there is You; there is cacophony and war. If there are three there is We; there is dialogue and progress.
Yet when there is a We there is a new One.....

Me, You, We - this is the dance of eternity

[DNA]

I am on a bit of a Dave McGowan reading run right now, just finished his Laural Canyon book (little mention of Joni Mitchell or Mr Young, Whew, dodged a bullet there), funny I don't live very far from all that.
I have had too many bubble busting revelations over the years but here is the latest that was really a big one for me.

All religions are fronts for the Annunaki, and as such, are just control mechanisms for the masses. All of them. Jesus is most likely a composite figure for some other prior religious figure. Bible is a edit job etc.
Sometimes I just want to go to bed and not get up.

I do love dogs but would never get a puppy, as one dog trainer told me, puppies are cute but awful.


On the Laural Canyon thing, I've always had a beef with the way the media has treated one of my favorite bands, RUSH, a band with some of the absolute best lyric writing accompanied with some of the absolute best music ever recorded. To add salt to the wound, I could never understand how the mass media's critics "loved" bands with absolutely no lyrical merit what so ever, like the Sex Pistons for instance and The Ramones. While my friends were moshing to Punk music in the early eighties with the blessings of Rolling Stone Magazine and the like, I was smoking a big fat one and enjoying the positivity of RUSH's lyrics. So to make a long story short, F*ck the critics!
I'm going to be really bummed out to hear anything bad about Pink Floyd, I really loved "The Wall", I consider it the best album of all time.




The main reason I quoted you cccme was because of your Annunaki reference.
My biggest bubble burst came in 1993 after reading Zacharia Sitchen's "The wars of Gods and man". I truly felt that he was correct in his assertion that the Annunaki created mankind.
This sent me into a depression for several weeks.
It was one thing to distance myself from religion, but I hadn't realized that in my own way I had created my own mix and mash religion, and although I was religiously agnostic I still held to the belief that a God with a big G had made mankind. Reading Sitchen pretty much destroyed my heart felt assuredness that a Big G God was our creator, and thus looking out for us and over us.
Sitchen's work made me feel like we are on our own.
Sitchen's work made me feel alone and removed a certain comfort I had not known I was clinging too. No longer was a patriarchal and grandfatherly man with a white beard sitting in the clouds caring about the particulars of my life.
Sitchen's work was my greatest bubble popping experience. :dirol:

[TEOTWAIKI]

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed..."

One of my many biggest bubbles:
Our government is working on behalf of our country

[Enola]

When I fully realised what Dharma was, was a big one.

I think life has all kinds of ways of hiding it from you, or it's one of the things life in this world tries to hide from you the most. And making the connection between Karma and Dharma - seeing it as a real whole.

It's weird, you can know these things in theory for a long time, but it's something different when it becomes really real to you or really sinks into your consciousness.

[Foxie Loxie]

@ DNA I could relate to your bubble-popping over Sitchen's work! But it's really o.k. as then we can go on to figure out who we REALLY are! It was an eye opener for me when I read the book of Enoch & realized parts of it had been lifted out & put into what is our Bible! :idea: It is truly amazing that so many of us have accepted on face value a system that was set up to control the masses...their plan worked! :( This is where Avalon is SUCH a help as one can inform oneself & come to different conclusions than what our brainwashing gave us! :highfive:

[Ewan]

I enjoy finding threads I've never seen before that contain so many 'revelations'. I believe I thanked every post on the way through!

I was 26, heading out on my first long haul flight. London to Sydney, I grabbed a book from the airport about 20m before boarding, one that just 'caught' my eye, it was John Pilger. When I got off the flight in Australia I realised the MSM was a bull**** system of heavy bias.

14-15 years later I realised the whole world was a bull**** system of interwoven crap and the whole thing was one giant prison. It is a prison, but the bars, the doors and windows aren't really very strong - you could walk right out if you wanted to, if you just decide to do it.

I'm still considering what my choice will be. :D

PS: Carmody. Still smiling about the I (hah!)