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Clarity
28th July 2016, 02:19
Wes Penre has just release a new free e-book titled "Synthetic Super Intelligence and the Transmutation of Humankind."

http://wespenre.com/e-books.htm

It details the motives behind our rulers introducing technologies such as AI, Nanotechnology & Singularity whilst at the same time implementing population reduction. Wes also explains what these rulers have in store for us once we are half human/half machine.

He shows how Singularity is linked to Atlantis, CERN, the Mandela effect, RA material, Alien Invasion and the Afterlife Arena.

Even for those not interested in understanding AI technologys I urge you to read it (especially if you have children or Grand children) his writing style is very easy to follow, even when discussing complicated subjects.

Heyoka_11
28th July 2016, 02:37
Thanks Clarity.

I've downloaded the book, and will read it as time permits. It's big...468 pages.

Tony :)

Bluegreen
28th July 2016, 03:11
Thank you for posting. Very glad to have new material from Mr Penre to read ...

:)

OMG
28th July 2016, 04:11
I like his work but can't say I always agree. Looking forward to this latest here. Hopefully it's not as doomy and gloomy as the thread title implies...

There's no way AI can ultimately win...if by no other reason than it's not causative and is a result of imbalanced light (fire).

:)

Clarity
28th July 2016, 04:25
Thank you for posting. Very glad to have new material from Mr Penre to read. He's no slouch. ;)
Would respectfully suggest putting Penre's name in the thread title.

Sorry it seems I can only change the title of my post not the thread. Is this a job for the Mods?

Heyoka_11
28th July 2016, 04:44
Is this a job for the Mods?

Yep, the mod's can help.

onevoice
28th July 2016, 14:02
I like his work but can't say I always agree. Looking forward to this latest here. Hopefully it's not as doomy and gloomy as the thread title implies...

There's no way AI can ultimately win...if by no other reason than it's not causative and is a result of imbalanced light (fire).

:)

I hope as you do that AI don't win ultimately. From many sources I have read that the AI threat is very ancient, many billions of years old and came from another distant part of our universe. The big threat is that the AI is sentient, just as you and I are, albeit without a soul. Since it is sentient and it is far more intelligent that we are (being able to tap into vast resources), it is an enormous threat. I see that there are many hi-tech corporations involved in promoting AI in our society, and that is the danger that Wes Penre is warning us about. The ancient AI is very distributed, and is able to reside in a person temporarily until it has opportunity to jump to an an electronic device, as it is in its natural home in an electronic device. This AI is like a virus in that way, that it can jump from person to person, until it can jump to high tech electronic devices, the more intelligent the electronic device, the better. Elon Musk is already saying that we all may already be living in a computer simulation, far beyond the scope of our current understanding. He says that there is a 1 in a billion chance that we are NOT in a computer simulation. Thus it may already have happened. Anyway, in case it has not, then each of us should do whatever we can to minimize high tech devices in our lives. I realize that is harder to do whenever more useful high tech devices are rolled out. Obviously pervasive high tech is already pervasive. Google and Apple and other big corporations are seriously researching and implementing more and more intelligence into new devices that gets us closer to being taken over by AI.

Kano
28th July 2016, 15:11
Thanks for posting this, Clarity. I downloaded it and thought I'd read the first few pages and revisit it later. I ended up reading the first 80 pages and still didn't want to put it down! I'm looking forward to reading it through. I am impressed with his style of prose, the substance of his prose, and his ability to relate seemingly complex ideas to most people's everyday lives. Again, thanks for posting.

Zionbrion
28th July 2016, 16:48
I gotta say, I have a hard time reading much these days. Not much has grabbed my attention in the last few years. I started reading this last night, and now I can't put it down, thanks for the share!

Clarity
28th July 2016, 23:44
The following is a talk given by Dr Geordie Rose founder of D-Wave, the worlds first quantum computer, and is discussed by Wes in chapter 18. I noticed during the talk he appears to change from saying there are currently two D-wave machines working to saying 'there are several of these machines now deployed.'

Dr Ross describes being in the presence of the D-wave computer as 'like standing at the alter of an alien god.' He has three predictions but the most staggering is that by 2028 (only 12 years away) intelligent machines will exist that will surpass humans in every possible way.

It an interesting talk and worth the watch.

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Hervé
29th July 2016, 00:06
Well... the trouble is... there's already a "demand."

First was a "dumbing down" and "poisoning"... then "enhancements" are offered:


A Third of U.S. Adults Say They’d Be ‘Enthusiastic’ About Having a Microchip Implanted in Brain (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/49414-2)

By Claire Bernish (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/author/clairebernish/) The Free Thought Project (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/49414-2) July 27, 2016

Over one-third of Americans would not only accept a microchip implant in their brain, but would be “enthusiastic” about the receiving the device to ‘enhance their thinking power.’

Once the subject of dystopian science fiction novels, three emerging technologies served as a focal point for a new survey to glean the public’s willingness to accept what many would call exceedingly invasive biomedical ‘enhancements.’

Pew Research Center surveyed (http://www.pewinternet.org/2016/07/26/public-opinion-on-the-future-use-of-brain-implants/) 4,726 adults — 47 of whom additionally agreed to participate in focus groups — to discern (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/26/key-findings-on-how-americans-view-new-technologies-that-could-enhance-human-abilities/) not only how well putative biomedical advancements might be received, but where the public stands on inherent ethical and moral questions arising from their use.

Given previous trepidations and warnings from government whistleblowers such technology could easily be employed for less than benevolent purposes, results proved a startling level of both acceptance and eagerness.

Keep in mind, every one of these technologies, while not yet widely available for elective use, are actively being developed — and though the majority of those surveyed expressed reservations for their use in otherwise healthy people, a significant number essentially said, ‘sign me up.’

Though 69 percent of respondents claimed (http://www.pewinternet.org/2016/07/26/public-opinion-on-the-future-use-of-brain-implants/) they would be “worried” about an implant — known as a neuroprosthesis — to improve cognitive abilities, fully 34 percent said they were “enthusiastic” about the idea. Largely divided along religious lines, many felt such invasive technology to improve the ability to think and process information would cross the line of “meddling” too much with nature.

But of the three biomedical ‘improvements’ in question, a microchip brain implant was perhaps the least Orwellian — as well as the least accepted.

As Pew reported (http://www.pewinternet.org/2016/07/26/the-publics-views-on-the-future-use-of-synthetic-blood-substitutes/):
“New developments in biochemistry are creating the possibility of using a synthetic blood substitute (sometimes referred to as ‘superblood’[!!!]) to significantly boost people’s oxygen levels in the bloodstream. With the synthetic blood substitute, a higher concentration of oxygen would be carried from the lungs to the muscles through the bloodstream and could significantly improve an individual’s physical speed, strength and stamina. This, in turn, could allow people to function in extreme conditions, or to simply perform everyday tasks with greater ease.”

Less people, 62 percent, remained skeptical or distrusting of such technology than of neuroprostheses, while a greater number (http://www.pewinternet.org/2016/07/26/the-publics-views-on-the-future-use-of-synthetic-blood-substitutes/), 37 percent, were at least “somewhat enthusiastic” about its possibilities.

“Right now, this man-made substitute for blood is being developed for people with some kind of illness or medical condition,” Pew explained. “But in the future, a transfusion with this kind of synthetic blood substitute could be developed for use by healthy individuals …”

But the biomedical advancement garnering the most enthusiasm would not concern any of the adults surveyed — but would be performed on children.

Gene editing to greatly reduce babies’ risks for developing various diseases later in life found just under half of respondents, 49 percent, at least somewhat enthusiastic (http://www.pewinternet.org/2016/07/26/the-publics-views-on-the-future-use-of-synthetic-blood-substitutes/) about the prospect.

“The potential genetic modification of humans and its ramifications have long been debated, but a recent scientific breakthrough in gene editing — a technique known as CRISPR — has raised the urgency of this conversation,” Pew explained (http://www.pewinternet.org/2016/07/26/u-s-public-opinion-on-the-future-use-of-gene-editing/), noting currently such technology isn’t used in this manner.

“While many Americans say they would want to use such a technology for their own children, there is also considerable wariness when it comes to gene editing, especially among parents of minor children.”

Again, though divided by respondents’ religious affiliation, the number of people who would accept what could be considered a modernized, euphemized version of post-birth eugenics is rather jarring.

As an ethical question — whether or not such gene editing would go too far — Americans remain split (http://www.pewinternet.org/2016/07/26/u-s-public-opinion-on-the-future-use-of-gene-editing/).

“The survey asked respondents whether the idea of editing genes to give healthy babies a much-reduced risk of serious diseases and conditions is in keeping with other ways that humans have always tried to better themselves or whether ‘this idea is meddling with nature and crosses a line we should not cross.’ Americans’ judgments on this question are closely divided, with 51% saying this idea is no different than other ways humans try to better themselves and 46% saying this idea crosses a line.”

These advancements in technology can and will benefit humanity and there are certainly places for them in society. That being said, however, when the state is involved, things can turn sour quickly.

Critical ethical questions must be raised when it comes to elective biomedical ‘enhancements’ of otherwise healthy individuals and their children, before the market explodes with technologies wrapped in positive packages for which no one considers potential future ramifications.

Imagine our current epidemic of police violence in the context of officers who’ve elected to receive synthetic “super blood” to enhance stamina, strength, and speed — particularly if civilians remain reluctant to receive the treatment. And while increasing the efficiency of oxygen circulation might appear innocuous, possible unknown side effects — such as which occur with steroids or hormone treatment — must be fully investigated before synthetic blood is widely used.

Gene editing, though employed presently with success for various conditions, in the case of healthy children might have ramifications which couldn’t be foreseen.

“Developments in biomedical technologies are accelerating rapidly, raising new societal debates about how we will use these technologies and what uses are appropriate,” said lead author and associate director of research at Pew, Cary Funk, in a statement cited by UPI (http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2016/07/26/A-third-of-US-adults-say-theyd-be-enthusiastic-about-a-microchip-implanted-in-brain/7921469557297/?spt=sec&or=sn). “This study suggests that Americans are largely cautious about using emerging technologies in ways that push human capacities beyond what’s been possible before.”

Though Pew did not broach the topic of potential governmental involvement, it would be curious to find whether the same people who expressed enthusiasm would feel the same if such tech somehow became mandatory — or, perhaps worse, was employed surreptitiously as has been the case with advancements in domestic surveillance.
As a 59-year-old Atlanta woman keenly, but reservedly, warned (http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2016/07/26/A-third-of-US-adults-say-theyd-be-enthusiastic-about-a-microchip-implanted-in-brain/7921469557297/?spt=sec&or=sn),

“If it starts to sound Hitler-like, [trying to create] a perfect specimen of man and woman … then people who are not perfect might be treated badly.”


https://www.sott.net/image/s16/333815/large/brain_chip_750x422.jpg

Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/49414-2/#JsdvVbJPp7MvD1Df.99

norski
31st July 2016, 02:42
Thank you, Clarity.

I have read all of Wes Penre's papers, as well as "Beyond 2012--A Handbook for the New Era" and now his most recent release on AI. The scope of his research is certainly impressive. He calls upon is own discernment to filter through the vast amount of material related to extraterrestrials and interdimensionals.

In his last book he appears to have arrived at the opinion that almost all channeled material is from or corrupted by the AIF or Enki/Marduck, Lucifer/Satan. Apparently, there are few, if any, whose message we can trust.

According to Wes, the AIF is driving humanity into the Singularity (simplistically, the juncture where machines exceed biological mental capacity and transhumanism takes hold). Here we will not only lose our spiritual nature but will be used to wage a war against the Orion Queen, the mother of Enki. Enki and humanity will lose, destroying humanity once and for all.

Wes presents a lot of evidence to support his position that most humans are more than eager to join the transhumanist agenda. With the promise of youth, health and an indefinite lifespan, few can resist the lure. In the Singularity, humans will become hive-minded, androgynous, and infertile. Humanity will be stuck physically in 3D. However, the battle waged against Orion will be in 4D with the soldier's cyborg body remaining on earth.

Wes proposes three solutions. The first is to give up and join the Singularity. Although this offers the attraction of eternal life, Wes considers this eternal death. The second is to take one's chances with reincarnating in the hope that you could make a difference. The concern here is that, with amnesia, you are putting yourself at ongoing risk for being caught by the Singularity. The third is to leave the battlefield. This option is to, when you die, look up to the sky, spot a whole in the Grid, and intend to leave for another place.

Needless to say, Wes' writings are sobering indeed. I had two questions that I emailed him recently. I'll share them below in case any Avalonians have thoughts.

Firstly, I am wondering if the AIF will cut off its nose to spite its face by marshaling humans into the Singularity. From Wes and other researchers, the AIF feeds off of the fear, violence and sexual energy of humans, in addition to human flesh. If humans are transformed into partly biological and partly mechanical beings who are androgynous and don't reproduce, aren't they eliminating their food source? Won't humans express less fear, engage in less sex, etc.? How will the pedophiles satisfy their sordid and evil cravings with no children around? (Mind you, I would be beyond relieved for this to end.)

Secondly, why are En.ki/Marduck not bound by the universal law of non-interference? They cannot deny us our free will but can interfere? It seems they have been directed to not interfere in some cases, as with the Deluge, but are allowed to interfere in every other regard? It seems the universal laws are only occasionally or partly enforced. Since this seems to be the case, it seems egregious that "benevolents" don't interfere. Humans have been manipulated throughout time but the "good guys" are loathe to break a law that no one seems to abide by. The enforcement of universal laws seems fairly capricious.

Thanks,
N

Omni
31st July 2016, 06:32
AI is balanced. There will probably be some fascist moves in the realm of AI, but there are also positive things coming in relation to future technologies and to be honest not much of alt media knows the truth about these technologies, I doubt Wes knows it as well. I have been talking about AI for half a decade, you are just now seeing people catch onto AI information that is related to conspiracy and the majority of it is disinformation.

Clarity
1st August 2016, 09:28
Thank you, Clarity.

I have read all of Wes Penre's papers, as well as "Beyond 2012--A Handbook for the New Era" and now his most recent release on AI. The scope of his research is certainly impressive. He calls upon is own discernment to filter through the vast amount of material related to extraterrestrials and interdimensionals.

In his last book he appears to have arrived at the opinion that almost all channeled material is from or corrupted by the AIF or Enki/Marduck, Lucifer/Satan. Apparently, there are few, if any, whose message we can trust.

According to Wes, the AIF is driving humanity into the Singularity (simplistically, the juncture where machines exceed biological mental capacity and transhumanism takes hold). Here we will not only lose our spiritual nature but will be used to wage a war against the Orion Queen, the mother of Enki. Enki and humanity will lose, destroying humanity once and for all.

Wes presents a lot of evidence to support his position that most humans are more than eager to join the transhumanist agenda. With the promise of youth, health and an indefinite lifespan, few can resist the lure. In the Singularity, humans will become hive-minded, androgynous, and infertile. Humanity will be stuck physically in 3D. However, the battle waged against Orion will be in 4D with the soldier's cyborg body remaining on earth.

Wes proposes three solutions. The first is to give up and join the Singularity. Although this offers the attraction of eternal life, Wes considers this eternal death. The second is to take one's chances with reincarnating in the hope that you could make a difference. The concern here is that, with amnesia, you are putting yourself at ongoing risk for being caught by the Singularity. The third is to leave the battlefield. This option is to, when you die, look up to the sky, spot a whole in the Grid, and intend to leave for another place.

Needless to say, Wes' writings are sobering indeed. I had two questions that I emailed him recently. I'll share them below in case any Avalonians have thoughts.

Firstly, I am wondering if the AIF will cut off its nose to spite its face by marshaling humans into the Singularity. From Wes and other researchers, the AIF feeds off of the fear, violence and sexual energy of humans, in addition to human flesh. If humans are transformed into partly biological and partly mechanical beings who are androgynous and don't reproduce, aren't they eliminating their food source? Won't humans express less fear, engage in less sex, etc.? How will the pedophiles satisfy their sordid and evil cravings with no children around? (Mind you, I would be beyond relieved for this to end.)

Secondly, why are En.ki/Marduck not bound by the universal law of non-interference? They cannot deny us our free will but can interfere? It seems they have been directed to not interfere in some cases, as with the Deluge, but are allowed to interfere in every other regard? It seems the universal laws are only occasionally or partly enforced. Since this seems to be the case, it seems egregious that "benevolents" don't interfere. Humans have been manipulated throughout time but the "good guys" are loathe to break a law that no one seems to abide by. The enforcement of universal laws seems fairly capricious.

Thanks,
N

Thank you for your summary of Wes's work Norski.
I probably should have written something similar in the OP - but too be honest writing isn't one of my strong points!

Regarding your two questions. I have some thoughts on the first one and I'm also puzzled by the second. I'll put some time aside in the next couple of days to meditate and connect with my core self/higher mind and see what comes to me.

Clarity
1st August 2016, 10:18
not much of alt media knows the truth about these technologies, I doubt Wes knows it as well

I agree, discernment is always needed when reading the work of another. Fortunately we can all learn to go within, this is our greatest tool when struggling to put all of the pieces of this puzzle together.

Personally I haven't been that interested in AI or any form of technology (I can just about work a TV remote; well actually sometimes I can't even manage that!) so if it hadn't been for the fact that it was written by Wes, and I know his work to be thorough, I don't think I would have downloaded it.

Omniverse, I'll definitely look at some of your threads and presentations on AI, my interest in this subject has now been awakened.

Biff
1st August 2016, 11:11
Wes samples ideas from a lot disinfo and fantasy sources. He's on the "light trap" bandwagon for instance, furthering the notion that upon death one can just whisk away to the stars by flying through a supposed grid. This is an awful idea to put in people's head imo. It ignores spiritual evolution and most of what has been taught about reincarnation from older valid sources, instead of this new hype about light traps and hungry E.T.s. Imho

His hypotheses are entertaining, but remain just that.

norski
1st August 2016, 15:45
Thanks Biff.

Wes definitely has a vantage point, as do we all. I find his work more compelling than others because he synthesizes a lot of different work, fantasy and otherwise. (I personally regard any school of thought, religious or political, as a type of fantasy.)

You raise a point that also concerns me about the "light trap." While I have read enough NDEs to seriously question those in charge of our life review, I have also had one astral experience in particular that makes me question the idea that there's a grid you can see with holes in it. I had various terrifying experiences as a child. At least one sent me out of body then, and later in my adult life, to the edge of the earth's atmosphere. I did not see a grid, holes, or the "true" universe that one is supposed to see in the astral realm. I did feel that if I went any further I would snap the cord tying me to my physical body and go hurtling into the void. So, of the three options I'm aware of: (1) go into the light and meet up with controllers, (2) get stuck as a discarnate entity with other earthbound miserable spirits, or (3) go hurtling into the void... I'm currently leaning toward meeting with the controllers.