On being an EMPATH

[Lasuh]

I've recently come across the word "Empaths", the more I read about it, it describes exactly how I feel and what I experience. One of the most difficult experience being an empath is being or around somebody who doesn't say what's really on their mine, I can feel exactly whats on their mind which makes me very uncomfortable. On the other hand there is an advantage to being an empath, I don't usually have communication problem with others, I can quickly understand what they are trying to say and that makes me a good listener. I like to know if there is anyone who is having similar experience, and also what the Avalon Members think about "Empaths"

[bettye198]

I believe it is a facet of intuition. How we perceive a curious thing, a threat of danger, a history, another person's emotional body. From the beginning, no matter what I had to learn about my own psychic temperment, I decided I had to learn how to arm myself against absorbing another's pain. Before a healing is begun, cleansing breaths with a covering of pure light that was radiated from the Hosts of Heaven that guard and defend ( superdelegates of the God Force) or from my own Higher Self and an intent that no harm shall come to me through a healing, that no change in clarity will occur and that I stay in the center of my own core consciousness which aligns with the infinite.

[Wind]

Sometimes I wonder if it's a gift or a curse to be the kind of person who is able to feel so much, nothing escapes you.

[Sean]

I'm an empath, and it's a curse until you get a handle on it. Especially if you're a man, because of societal roles etc. Once you get a handle on it, it's basically a superpower. Those feelings we get are information that others don't pick up on. If you work with it, you become hyper-aware of your surroundings without being overloaded. I don't have a methodology to offer on how not to get overloaded, because I recently discovered I was one..maybe it's my martial arts training, don't know..but I know, now, to trust my empathic feeling about every person and situation I deal with.

An example: I'm in the L.A. subway the other day, on a busy platform, downtown L.A. and I felt guided to notice this one dude. He was dressed somewhat normal, but sorta "looked" homeless. Backpack. anyway, I'm looking him over, and, I look down at his right hip.

He's carrying a gun. Openly. In a holster.

Now, this guy, is NOT a cop, NOT security. This is a guy with a gun, in los angeles, on a crowded subway platform in the middle of the day, surrounded by people. No one else saw this. I immediately walk upstairs and use the emergency intercom. I give them description of the guy, location, etc. they say they're sending someone. OK, fine. I go back to the platform, and he's still there. No cops yet. So, I flag down one of LASD's "tap-card checkers" because they usually have a deputy with them. they didn't, this time, but I pointed the guy out to them, and they saw the gun themselves. they radio it in, which gets immediate response. Sheriffs show up, draw down on the guy and take him down. He had boarded a train, but they kept it in the station, waiting for the deputies. Sure enough, the gun was real and loaded. I get interviewed by them, and they praise and thank me for having a good eye.

It wasn't my "eye", though. I simply "picked up" that I should look at this guy. there was no particular reason to do so, other than I felt I should.

Imagine if this guy gets on a train, train leaves,and he starts blasting people onboard. Nowhere to run.

Embrace being empathic. Learn to use it. that's what I'm trying to do..

[AutumnW]

Working actor,

Amazing story!

[rgray222]

Here is a thread started some time ago that identifies 30 traits of and empath.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?70941-30-Traits-Of-An-Empath-How-To-know-If-You-re-An-Empath

[East Sun]

When we observe a simple thing like the design of a bird's feather, just as an example, we can see almost into eternity..
The implications are beyond words, but we only have words as a means to convey what we feel. A creation, surely
is evident.

But when and why is another question, that I will not try to answer. It would be foolish of me to do so.
We can see so are in no need of any kind of proof.

[Heyoka_11]

G'day Lasuh,

As workingactor pointed out, "it's a curse until you get a handle on it.".

Ain't that the truth!

You have to learn how to protect yourself, as you can be wide open to psychic attack. I could be absolutely whacked after just a short time in the wrong company, and sometimes that includes being in the company of good people.

Your mind is usually functioning at a far greater speed than that of those around you, and you are immediately aware of the intent that lies behind the words that you are hearing. That can be extremely awkward, and many times I would find myself responding to that intent, and not to the words that were used to convey it, i.e. you are "feeling" the intent even before the person with whom you are communicating does. In ones early years, that can lead to communicative dysfunction, and problems forming meaningful friendships / relationships. It is better to respond to the words alone, and file away the intent for future reference. This will help you to identify not only your true friends, but your enemies as well, and you will have them, sure as night follows day.

Learn to find time for quiet time: you are going to need it. Value your solitude, as that is when you will hopefully find yourself in the best company.

Here is a link to an article on in5d, entitled "5 Ways to Protect Yourself When You're an Empath (http://in5d.com/5-ways-to-protect-yourself-when-youre-an-empath/)".

And here's another from in5d entitled "6 Reasons Empaths Freeze Around Inauthentic People (http://in5d.com/6-reasons-empaths-freeze-around-inauthentic-people/)".

I reckon it's a blessing, but it's a blessing that has to be controlled.

While you're on in5d, take a look around.

All the Best,

Tony :)

[Matina]

For me the worst thing is not understanding(in a way)what they are thinking but how they are feeling,especially when it's bad and you try to help them.I lose all my energy trying to find a solution or, better, all kind of solutions because i can feel so deeply how they feel.

[tessfreq]

Thanks for starting the thread Lasuh.
I have felt what you are talking about… that uncomfortable feeling… and it’s not like you can bring up the discrepencies… that could make it even more uncomfortable.

I’ve called it so many things throughout my life, not really understanding it. As a child I thought my family was trying to drive me crazy due to the difference in what I felt and knew, and what was going down. It seemed so obvious, but we always had to go the long way around.

When I got into astrology I thought I found something to explain it. But ‘ah ha, that’s the reason’, becomes ‘so what’, when you get hit with the heavy feeling felt from another in despair. For example, when I went to Alcatraz, to visit (lol), you can feel the depression before you even reach the docks.

As an adult, I didn’t protect myself, I dove into social work, because, like you said, Lasuh, empaths make good listeners. I still really didn’t know what I was dealing with. By the time I left this field I was crying ever other day due to taking on too much from my clients and the injustice of what little we had to help. It tore me up.

Now that I have more understanding of it I can protect myself better, along with delineating between what is mine and what is others.

Thanks for the old thread with traits, rgray222. Wish I would have been given and taught those as a child. How different the world would have been. By now I’d be rockstaring my superpowers like workingactor. ☺

And thank you Tony for the information. I know I’ve studied empaths before, but lately I’m hearing it better, or clearer.

[Heyoka_11]

When we observe a simple thing like the design of a bird's feather, just as an example, we can see almost into eternity...

Me too!...

...though I do use a flower to draw the analogy. Often just a simple flower that happens to be attached to a "weed", and goes unnoticed by most :cry:.

Have you ever felt that it is not just your eyes doing the observing, but those of the Creator as well?

Yes, the implications are beyond words.

Here is a quote sent to me by a good forum friend a short while back...

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Weirdo!

Oh well...if the cap fits!

Tony :)

[Lasuh]

Thank You rgray222 for the thread.

The traits are amazingly accurate!! But there is one thing that caught my attention which I'm not aware of as a trait for Empaths i.e. going for the underdog, till now I use to wonder why I always felt and support the loser or the underdog whether in films or sports I can't help it, I used to think why can't I be happy with the winner or the best and feel good like others, I just can't, its something deep inside me, But now I understand, Thank you!!

[lightpotential]

It wasn't my "eye", though. I simply "picked up" that I should look at this guy. there was no particular reason to do so, other than I felt I should.

Imagine if this guy gets on a train, train leaves,and he starts blasting people onboard. Nowhere to run.

Embrace being empathic. Learn to use it. that's what I'm trying to do..

Did the man with the gun feel to you as though he was going to actively shoot people? If not, I would have left him alone. I am not an American but I totally respect your 2nd Amendment. He may have been open carrying specifically so that he was operating within the law i.e. he did not have a Concealed Carry Permit. If he was a good person on a subway and there was another bad person who starting shooting others, he may have been able to successfully defend them. You may have caused this man a lot of hassle for no reason whatsoever.

[Sean]

It wasn't my "eye", though. I simply "picked up" that I should look at this guy. there was no particular reason to do so, other than I felt I should.

Imagine if this guy gets on a train, train leaves,and he starts blasting people onboard. Nowhere to run.

Embrace being empathic. Learn to use it. that's what I'm trying to do..

Did the man with the gun feel to you as though he was going to actively shoot people? If not, I would have left him alone. I am not an American but I totally respect your 2nd Amendment. He may have been open carrying specifically so that he was operating within the law i.e. he did not have a Concealed Carry Permit. If he was a good person on a subway and there was another bad person who starting shooting others, he may have been able to successfully defend them. You may have caused this man a lot of hassle for no reason whatsoever.

You're not American, so, you don't understand the law here. I'll be kind :)

It is completely, totally, UTTERLY illegal to "open carry" in california, since 2012. The only people who you see openly carrying here are police, and armed security. that's it. He was neither. even with a CCW(conceal carry permit) you can't just walk around L.A. with a gun on your hip. PERIOD. Link for clarity: http://www.shouselaw.com/open-carry.html

In addition, in los angeles county, it is notoriously difficult to gt a CCW anyway, even if you have a good reason. Cali is what we Americans call a "blue state" Cali is very hostile to the 2nd amendment. VERY. So, no, this guy was way off, and I did the exact right thing. Also, as a "trained" person, I have to say this, and, I promise you, I'm not trying to be an internet tough guy. If he had unholstered that weapon, before police arrived, I would've engaged, and, most likely, killed him. I was close enough, and the only one who knew what was going down. In a situation like that, I don't **** around.

Last thing: this man was African-American. I say this as a black man myself: No black dude in his right mind, especially considering what has gone down recently, would walk around with a loaded gun in plain sight. Cops are killing us when we have NO weapon. He was clearly off his rocker, and the LAST person who should be carrying.

[bogeyman]

being an empath is a burden sometimes, too much I have to closed down.

[lightpotential]

I know that different states do have different laws, and I did not know specifically about California. What I was really getting at though was, as an empath, did you sense that he was planning something? Or did you report him purely because you knew that he was breaking the law?

This thread is about empaths, and as you have said that you are one, I was interested more generally here whether you are able in a crowded place to detect 'threat vibes' from people? And I was wondering if that is what led to you reporting him.

[Sean]

I know that different states do have different laws, and I did not know specifically about California. What I was really getting at though was, as an empath, did you sense that he was planning something? Or did you report him purely because you knew that he was breaking the law?

This thread is about empaths, and as you have said that you are one, I was interested more generally here whether you are able in a crowded place to detect 'threat vibes' from people? And I was wondering if that is what led to you reporting him.

My best answer is, "I think so". there was no reason to focus on this guy other than my intuition. After I saw the gun, the safety of myself and the people nearby was my main concern. Not so much "reporting a legal violation". It was, "here's a guy carrying a gun when he really shouldn't be", followed by a sense of urgency to do something about it. and I did.

It was the urge to pick this one person out of a large crowd and focus on him, when there was no particular reason to do so, that leads me to believe my empathic(psychic?) abilities came into play. and, as far as sensing whether was about to do something..here's the weirdest thing. He felt very..blank. He never spoke, the whole time. even with deputies pointing guns at him. As he was face-down on the ground, being cuffed, nothing, as he was being walked out of the station, not a word. I hope that answers your question. I don't know how else to describe it.

Edit: turns out the guy with the gun had a previous felony conviction, and, therefore, should not have been carrying. How do I know? because the L.A. District Attorney sent me a love note, which I received today,(8/6)also known as a "witness subpoena" which lists the crime they're charging him with. PC: 298000.."felon with a gun". *sigh

[rgray222]

Thank You rgray222 for the thread.

The traits are amazingly accurate!! But there is one thing that caught my attention which I'm not aware of as a trait for Empaths i.e. going for the underdog, till now I use to wonder why I always felt and support the loser or the underdog whether in films or sports I can't help it, I used to think why can't I be happy with the winner or the best and feel good like others, I just can't, its something deep inside me, But now I understand, Thank you!!

Lasuh
When completely sober, (no drugs or alcohol) have you ever had a moment of absolute clarity. A moment (no matter how brief) of complete understanding of our world and this universe. A moment when you felt and sensed that there was a purpose and reason for every single thing in the universe. I am not talking about an intellectual understanding more of a intuitive understanding. I am just curious.
Thanks

[pugwash84]

Sometimes I get so overwhelmed with everyone's emotions I feel like I am tense all day and then I feel like I then give that tension to some other people but other times I feel so depressed I feel like I can't function properly and I have to force myself to get up and focus xx When I sit too close to someone with depression I get their emotions but if I am near someone who is energetic I feel that too so in a room full of people at a concert I feel like I am an excitable child again xx I have to learn to live with them and control them xx

[Sueanne47]

Hi Pugwash84 Nice to meet you! :flower:

Yes, if I get some people with an overpowering controlling influence (like a bully) that I work with, I feel their disatisfaction of their life...and its draining. I also dislike intensely people who say to me 'cheer up it may never happen' these are just people that make a remark but are not caring. We need more people around us like those on PA! who you can share your thoughts with without judgement..and you listen to them too if you are lucky enough they will open up, and you try to help in some way. Your energy levels then feel euphoric when you get a kindred spirit come along. :sun:

[pugwash84]

I know what you mean or those people who ask "How are you?" and don't really want to listen to an answer so I just say "Fine, How are you?" Like I have to go through the scripted banter even if I actually feel like I'm dying inside and it's nice to meet you too !! :) This Forum is a nice place to meet other people with similar interests and seems like a friendly bunch :)

[Sueanne47]

I know what you mean or those people who ask "How are you?" and don't really want to listen to an answer so I just say "Fine, How are you?" Like I have to go through the scripted banter even if I actually feel like I'm dying inside and it's nice to meet you too !! :) This Forum is a nice place to meet other people with similar interests and seems like a friendly bunch :)

I absolutely agree there! you just get a feeling about a kindred spirit, I like someone to quietly talk to that is healing but I like to listen to them too and heal them if I can. I dont like people who are fake..one minute all over you...next minute your toast, or someone who says they are listening when they have their eye on the TV at the same time.

[Heyoka_11]

I absolutely agree there!

Yeh...me too, absolutely.

Anyway, Sue...How are you?

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[Sueanne47]

fine Hun, btw - is that you watching tv? :p

[Heyoka_11]

fine Hun, btw - is that you watching tv? :p

Nah...guess ya' caught me out, didn 'ya. Goin' by the URL of the image (UK), looks like it was on of yooz mob. Ignorant b*stard anyway: got 'is back to 'ya :drag:

[bettye198]

This is for working actor. Kudos to you. I mean it. My son when he visits us has to take the subway, the Red line to be exact, to Union station to get the Surfliner. He has told me many stories of that Red line. It is likened to going on the NY Subway to Brooklyn. Gangs, threats with knives, bat **** crazy looney bins who are not in control of their biologicals, fights breaking out, and he is an empath. If he walks in a room, and there is a threatening negative vibe, he leaves. So, glad you did the right thing about reporting. There are people in LA who are not together and some of us need to be on high alert. I understand that Union Station has made a clean sweep of all the homeless who have abused the beautiful station just awful and have harassed travelers. So its either the sheriff or LAPD who has come in and made it once again a place of peace and cleanliness. They guard it 24/7. Another issue I will not get into but every city has its dilemmas with that.