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East Sun
1st August 2016, 23:37
I, for one, believe that Jesus was from off Earth. There is a lot of evidence to support this, but I'm not going to try and prove anything to anyone. \\\

We have been dumbed down for thousands of years and the "facts" have been kept from us by the half good/half bad Catholic Church plus the Judiac/Jewish religion IMO.

But now after ages of ignorance we are on the verge of knowing---I would not call it enlightenment, not at all---we have a long way to go---as humans in bodily flesh---a long way to go.

Did we fail Jesus or did he fail us???? Maybe we have another chance....maybe soon...

But why were we kept in the dark? It must be that we were not up to the challenge.
Or was it that the evil ones...evil doers, we heard "them" call others evil doers but we know that they were the Evil doers.

Evil doers are our enemies. If we are good they are the opposite--a simple deduction tells us that.

We are awake to their Evil.

ES

Michelle Marie
2nd August 2016, 00:17
Nobody failed. It's not over...

:heart:

Oh, and it seems right about Jesus being from off planet.
My soul seems from off planet also.

Again, no proof.

Just saying...

Sueanne47
2nd August 2016, 00:21
These are crop circles of Jesus's face & back of head either side of the M4 uk...just when the shroud of Turin was found to be real.

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East Sun
2nd August 2016, 01:12
One big problem is that the controllers "on high" ie those controllers on our Earth think we don't know what they are'''

Their time is short and they know it...............

ghostrider
2nd August 2016, 01:41
His name according to the plejaren, was Immanuel , falsely changed to Jesus a name he never went by, the church of that day corrupted th spirit teachings, to control all the human beings on earth, and yes he was from off earth , in fact from another universe originally, he went by the name Nokodemjon, then Enoch three different incarnations, then that spirit went by, Isaiah, Elijah, Jeremiah, Imannuel, Muhammad, and now Edward... a lineage that goes back over 12 billion years on a Second set of 60-80 billion years of lifetimes... on his first set of 60-80 billion lifetimes he eventually merged back with creation, his people fell away from the laws of creation and Enoch ordained a second set of incarnations of 60-80 billion years, to bring humanity back to the spiritual teachings ... that is how that spirit form is able to do extraordinary things recorded in the distant past... highly evolved, with the power of creation , an event that has never happened before, a spirit coming out from merging back with Creation/source ... evolution is a slow process, it took 58 billion years to get to pure spirit, then another 12 billion as a fine spirit with creation... imagine doing that , then starting all over for people who dont believe you, and only ridicule you , and challenge your every word, and you have walk with the full power of creation for 12 billion years... know it alls line up to question you... and they still walk in a material body, in second grade so to speak...

Sueanne47
2nd August 2016, 01:49
"Forgive them father...for they no not what they do" Jesus Immanuel

Foxie Loxie
2nd August 2016, 14:25
Well, My Dears.....this is my own personal opinion. :Angel: I have only been 1 year & 3 months into my Awakening & have had to turn upside down everything I had been taught & believed! :blushing: From what I have learned so far....it seems that we know who the Elohim are(many key words were incorrectly translated), we know we were formed in their image, & it appears they are the ones who sent Jesus. Anyone coming from a Biblical viewpoint will come to realize that Jesus' true message was subverted & changed into what Rome wanted it to be in order to control the public. Jesus' mission was rewritten so it would fit a political agenda. Joseph Atwill is most informative on that issue. It was interesting that Bob Dean had actually met him on a couple of his "outings"! None of us need to "fit into" someone else's belief pattern. We are each on our own personal Journey & at different levels IN that Journey. My only regret is that my true phase of learning happened so late in my life! :idea:

Sueanne47
2nd August 2016, 14:57
Hi Foxie! :heart: I am sooo glad I came to PA, my vibration is much stronger now that I learn more about the good things (looking after my plants, cooking, making jewellery,meeting new friends). Most of the forum is taken up with what's going on with the dark side and I feel that reading too much into that brings in the evil entities and I get depressed ~ and we musnt let that happen! Barbera Marciniak says that cosmetic companies purposely say the sun is bad for us so they make their money for their anti sun products...when really the sun is good for us and we should go outside a lot more, instead of being near the electronics. Having said that I find it hard to pull away from the forum! :rolleyes: Jesus and god just wants us to have self love and spread the love.. yeahhh I'm all for that.

conk
2nd August 2016, 17:12
Jesus did not fail. His teachings were masked by the politics of the Roman Church. The teachings are still valid, just throw off the veil of lies and the fabrications that comprise most of the Bible.

Enola
2nd August 2016, 17:56
If we had access to his pure teachings I'm sure we would have no need for anything else. He traveled and learned all over the world before he settled down to start teaching, and it seems like he would have been able to teach his followers anything they could possibly need to learn.

But the way his teachings are presented is so ineffective. They're so encoded and you need to learn so much to be able to understand them. The Bible isn't much use for a young person without teaching them how to understand it, and it mostly just works to make the strong, developing ego-nature of an adolescent revolt, anyway.

It's tricky. It's like in a way we're given the truth, so it can't be said it's withheld from us, but not in a way we can understand. So we are taught to reject our culture's greatest example of enlightenment before we're old enough to even know what we're doing. Western culture has become increasingly anti-Christ since the 50s or so, and there's never a positive reference to Christianity in our popular culture, virtually ever.

Kindred
2nd August 2016, 19:10
Since the question is implied, I offer the following items... (as if I haven't provided them before ;) )

Short item that helps with understanding the mode of transportation:
http://hilarion.com/michel.html

The pdf of the book...
(see chapters 10 & 11 for Their explanation) However, please know that these beings are fully aware of the multiple timelines and Probabilities that form the multiverse, including Earth's, via, what they call the 'psychosphere' of Earth.
http://www.lanuovaumanita.net/files/tp-typeset.pdf

Enjoy!

In Unity, Peace and Love

ghostrider
3rd August 2016, 11:33
The ones who visit Edward Meier , the plejaren are the descendants of the sons of heaven, who were the 200 chief scientist of king Arus of Lyrian descent... they are tall and have a glow about them , early earth humans described them angels because of their natural glow , and spirituality they are over 20 million years ahead of us ... they live to be 1,000 - 1,500 years old ... before the genetic tampering ( the original sin) human beings used to live 1,000 years, a result of their ancestors mating with our ancestors ... th follow the spirit of Nokodemjon wherever it incarnates, one family bloodline that has had this mission of mentoring the new personality of the one reincarnating spirit of the teacher of creation ... While the body of Immanuel is earth bound, his spirit is not ... Gabriel a plejaren man , mated with Mary an earth woman... quetzel on of Edwards teachers , is the reincarnation of Gabriel ... they have technology that allows them to track spirit forms, and have detailed history of every spirit form involved in the mission of bringing the spiritual teachings of the laws of creation and its 12 recommendations ... it's why Edwards story is so unique and important, also its why they landin his driveway for photo opportunities ... evil men changed Immanuels name and teaching, to control other men through religion, deception and lies ... before Billy each time the prophets brought the teachings of creation it was corrupted, few people could read and write ... now with the computer age, the teachings are preserved for all time ... you can read about them in the book the goblet of truth, and the Talmud of Immanuel ... born again should have been translated live again, reincarnation ... King James did an evil deed to all of humanity, which still lingers to this day ...

najara12000
3rd August 2016, 13:50
I, for one, believe that Jesus was from off Earth. There is a lot of evidence to support this, but I'm not going to try and prove anything to anyone. \\\

We have been dumbed down for thousands of years and the "facts" have been kept from us by the half good/half bad Catholic Church plus the Judiac/Jewish religion IMO.

But now after ages of ignorance we are on the verge of knowing---I would not call it enlightenment, not at all---we have a long way to go---as humans in bodily flesh---a long way to go.

Did we fail Jesus or did he fail us???? Maybe we have another chance....maybe soon...

But why were we kept in the dark? It must be that we were not up to the challenge.
Or was it that the evil ones...evil doers, we heard "them" call others evil doers but we know that they were the Evil doers.

Evil doers are our enemies. If we are good they are the opposite--a simple deduction tells us that.

We are awake to their Evil.

ES
I have stumbled upon Gerald Clark the last few months. He has written several books: The Anunnaki of Nibiru: Mankind's Forgotten Creators, Enslavers, Saviors, and Hidden Architects of the New World Order, is one book. Check him out on amazon. He has a Facebook and YouTube page and is doing many YouTube talks the past several months. He says Jesus is Toth, son, of Enki. I find this fascinating as it relates to religion and the control of mankind and the story, from one god's people, as written (carefully) in the Bible.