If Obamacare were a reality show...

[joeecho]

....will this be its last season? Has it jumped the shark? Obamacare never looked healthy from my view, even in theory.

Maybe is was setup to fail as part of a wider agenda. Really, with all these think tanks at the disposal of the politicians in charge of making policy, couldn't they predict with a greater then average accuracy that Obamacare was untenable in the long run?

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Aetna's exit deals blow to Obamacare, patients

http://videos.usatoday.net/Brightcove2/29906170001/2016/08/29906170001_5085180170001_5085179114001.mp4

The 3rd largest health insurance company in the US is pulling its plans from 70% of the Obamacare insurance exchanges it participates in.

Health insurer Aetna announced late Monday that it is dropping Obamacare insurance in 69% of the counties and 11 of 15 states where it currently offers plans.

The third largest health insurance company becomes the latest to pull back from the plans offered under the Affordable Care Act (ACA) as it cites heavy losses.

Here's what that means for patients, insurers, the ACA and the company's fight with the government over its effort to acquire Humana.

What does this mean for patients?

The cuts affect 20% of Aetna's 838,000 Obamacare participants, covering people in 536 counties, according to a Securities and Exchange Commission filing.

The insurer is ending its Obamacare plans in 11 states: Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Kentucky, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina and Texas. Participants will be forced to sign up for other Obamacare plans or purchase individual insurance outside of the exchanges once open enrollment begins later this year. Aetna’s Obamacare members in Delaware, Iowa, Nebraska and Virginia will be unaffected.

Patients may also lose their preferred doctors and hospitals if they sign up for plans that don't include those providers in their network coverage. People in rural areas are most affected.

Experts are already forecasting that the premium for an average plan – the lowest-cost medium-benefits option for a 40-year-old nonsmoker - is expected to rise by 9% in 2017 to a monthly payment of $281, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. That increase could potentially deter some people from signing up.

Continued....

<source> (http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2016/08/16/aetna-obamacare-affordable-care-act-exchanges/88825798/)

[rgray222]

I am a firm believer in health care but not Obamacare. It was passed on dishonesty and deception, that premise rarely holds up. It was one of the most poorly written bills to ever pass both houses. It passed on Christmas eve with Obama telling the house that if they did not approve the bill they would have to work through the Christmas holiday, of course, what did the weak-willed politicians do, they passed something under duress that they never, ever thought the president would sign, but he did. Also, it is well documented that big pharma got hundreds of their brightest hired by the government. They had a free hand in writing the Affordable Care Act. It is also well documented that most if not all of these government employees were hired back by their pharmaceutical companies and paid handsome bonuses.

United Healthcare (largest health care provider in the USA) has already bailed on Obamacare and now Aetna is doing the same. Health care premiums are expected to go up in some states in 2017 by 40%+. It is unlikely that this house of cards can remain standing much longer. If it does remain standing it will ultimately cost taxpayers a hellacious amount of money.

[amor]

An acquaintance of mine goes to Germany every year and when there has a complete medical checkup. It seems he is first seen by a general practitioner and all concerns listed. He is then sent on down the line and seen, examined, tested, etc., by any specialists required. The cost is nominal. If we had an assembly line arrangement like this, expensive machine tests might be less costly than they presently are; and because people could afford to see the doctors, they would always be fully employed and families would not have to go homeless because the medical insurance is higher than the mortgage. What happens to a young, struggling family, barely shaving by on a small income? Are Obama and the congressional live lites all insane?

[conk]

If we employed natural, God-given means, embraced the wonder and power of plants and herbs, the multi-billion medical industry would collapse and people would be vastly more healthy. No need for health care except for trauma and emergencies. Granny Johnson and her herb garden could cure most any "disease". Why does The Medical Mafia ignore the extremely effective method of care called Ayurveda? Because it scares the living hell out of them.

[joeecho]

Could healthcare upheaval be another prong along with things like rising taxes, rising food costs, political and law enforcement corruption to name just a few in an attempt to cause social chaos that results in gun confiscation and more? There are people with the ability to pull strings that are in it for the 'long game'.

I keep getting this image in my head about the frog in boiling water. The details (temperature settings, water additives etc.) may vary from region to region but the results may very well end up being the same.

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[Chester]

Obummer Care was meant to fail so they can "solve" the problem by instituting "single payer" (gov health care).

It is socialized medicine. The very wealthy don't care as they can pay for whatever they want.

But folks who actually work for a living pay not just for their own family's health care but also will pay for the huge population that does not work. This is already the case with Obummer Care as anyone with a brain could foresee would end up being the case - and certainly Obummer knew this and certainly all the legislators who sold out to it also knew.

This was the plan all along. Problem (created by Obummer Care), Reaction (It failed!), solution (Socialized "medicine").

And I haven't even begun to mention what they call "medical care" happens to really be and will forever be for these masses. It may be "cutting edge" if you consider the barbaric (needless) surgeries they so often recommend... but you won't see Hillary Clinton going under one of those knifes. You don't see any of the US Congress subjected to Obummer Care or will you see any of them subjected to getting in line for equal care options under a full blown government as single payer end game... and its coming folks... right around the bend.

[joeecho]

....and its coming folks... right around the bend

You nailed it, Sam.

It's a template for 'socialized' this and 'socialized' that. To borrow the word you used..... and its coming folks... right around the bend

[onawah]

More on Obamacare from Jon Rappaport
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2016/10/17/the-deepest-secrets-of-obamacare/

The deepest secrets of Obamacare

by Jon Rappoport

October 17, 2016

Press reports indicate Obamacare is in a death spiral, because its structure is unworkable. Premiums are escalating beyond reason, insurers are opting out, and efforts to prop it up are at best a temporary fix.

But when has one of its failed programs ever stopped the federal government from pushing ahead? Increase the debt, fund the whole mess, task PR people to tell one lie after another.

There are hundreds (or more) satellite bureaucracies that have been birthed to support Obamacare, expand its reach, and develop strategies for bringing the whole nation under the umbrella of a national health care system. These “planners” are busy generating schemes for mandatory vaccination, increased psychiatric screening for children, lifetime tracking of patients, etc. The planners revel in devising systems (any systems) that corral huge numbers of people within one-size-fits-all solutions. If you told them there was a new federal program to identify all Americans who use the term ‘individual freedom’ and send their vital statistics to the FBI and the Pentagon, they would jump in with both feet, without a second thought.

But the real secret of Obamacare is in plain sight: it’s the medical treatment itself.

As soon as the proposed bill to create Obamacare was sent to Congress, I began writing about what was in store for Americans. Here is a later article I wrote in 2012, after a constitutional challenge failed:

—June 28, 2012—

I want my Obamacare! I want my Obamacare!

Well, you’ve got it. The US Supreme Court just upheld it by calling the individual mandate a tax.

Those who shout victory to the rooftops have no idea what’s in store for them. No idea at all.

It’s vital to look at the real effects of this sinister plan. It’s all about the effects of mainstream medicine. That’s what the sold-out press is refusing to examine.

The “share and care” humanitarian mask will be peeled away. The US Dept. of Health and Human Services will create, as ordered, a complete list of approved treatments for every disease-label under the sun. And everyone in the insurance plan (everyone in America) will be forced to take what the doctor tells them to take.

For a bonus, unapproved treatments will be banned. People and practitioners who try to use alternative treatments will find themselves in trouble.

This is the hidden agenda of Obamacare. This is what it will morph into in the future—unless it is repealed by the Congress.

I’m not dreaming or fantasizing. I’ve been following and reporting on the medical cartel for 30 years, and I know the mindset of these people, these doctors, these bureaucrats, these pharmaceutical string-pullers behind the scenes. Obamacare is right up their alley. It’s about control, so it’s an answer to their prayers.

So what do we know about their mainstream medicine, the hospital-based drug-addled modern version?

On July 26, 2000, the Journal of the American Medical Association published a landmark paper by Dr. Barbara Starfield (Johns Hopkins School of Public Health), “Is US health really the best in the world?” In it, Starfield revealed what many people inside the medical establishment already knew: every year, like clockwork, the medical system was killing huge numbers of people.

Each year in the US, as Dr. Starfield reported, there are:

* 12,000 deaths from unnecessary surgeries;

* 7,000 deaths from medication errors in hospitals;

* 20,000 deaths from other errors in hospitals;

* 80,000 deaths from infections acquired in hospitals;

* 106,000 deaths from FDA-approved correctly prescribed medicines.

The total of medically-caused deaths in the US every year is 225,000.

This makes the medical system the third leading cause of death in America, behind heart disease and cancer.

In the wake of Starfield’s devastating report, other facts came to light: 2.1 million people in America, every year, are hospitalized as a result of reactions to FDA-approved medicines. Annually, 36 million serious adverse reactions to those drugs occur.

So, inclusive health coverage for many more Americans under the Obama Plan means these horrendous figures will rise.

This is the dirty secret.

Obama and his allies are promoting a medical system that is the third leading cause of death in America. It’s that stark and it’s that simple.

The Obama Plan involves appointing an “expert panel” to decide what treatments Americans should be given for what diseases, under the new regime.

Only a certified idiot would assume that, over time, alternative non-mainstream therapies would survive such an ongoing vetting. Hope may spring eternal, but common sense makes it easy to grasp the realities on the ground.

In the long run, alternative therapies will be edged out. Those that remain will be permitted for a narrow range of conditions, or as adjuncts to standard drug treatments and surgery.

Chiropractors and acupuncturists, who are temporarily basking in the notion that Obama “really cares,” are in for a very rude awakening. Their careers and practices will be significantly reduced. Not today, not tomorrow, but it will happen.

Doctors, under the Plan, will be telling patients they may not take nutritional supplements while in treatment. This will assume the status of an irreversible edict. In many cases, “while in treatment” will mean years.

What happens to a person, conscripted into the mandated Insurance Plan, who is told by his doctor that he should/must receive a vaccine? Suppose this person says no? What are the consequences? Will he then be labeled a defector? What penalties will he suffer?

Does a diagnosis of cancer imply a patient must submit to chemotherapy, radiation, and surgery? Can these treatments be forced upon him?

Perhaps, in the early days of the Plan, nothing untoward will happen. But then, as time passes, and the system assumes tighter and tighter controls, the hand of government will close around the recalcitrant patient’s neck.

“Take this vaccine. Take this chemo drug. If you don’t, you’re out of the system, and that makes you a criminal, because everyone has to be in the system.”

Doctors, who are an integral part of the Plan, will surely be punished if they give unapproved (alternative) treatments to patients.

And in order to make the Plan operate on a day-to-day basis, the records and bookkeeping data of every health-care practitioner in America will eventually be tracked on government computer networks.

Every person in America will have a traceable and trackable medical ID package. Government-issued. There is no way around it. The monitoring apparatus can’t work without it.

Orwellian consequences lie up the road in the field of psychiatric practice. In case you hadn’t noticed, the invention of “disorders” by committee is the preferred method for “discovering” more and more mental illnesses.

Yet, the science is completely fraudulent. For evidence, consult the many works of psychiatrist Peter Breggin, who has done more than any other person to expose the guts of his own profession. (breggin.com) Breggin establishes that mental disorders are not authoritatively diagnosed by a chemical or biological test. Conclusive tests do not exist. And worse, in this undefined and arbitrary territory, the drugs that follow diagnoses are killers: for example, 300,000 cases of motor brain damage, as a result of the administration of major tranquilizers.

Under the Obama Plan, you can bet your bottom dollar that psychiatric care will eventually become mandatory. A patient suddenly diagnosed with clinical depression or bipolar disease will be told he must take the drugs—and suffer their adverse effects.

Very young children will be given more and more debilitating and dangerous brain drugs.

Under the Obama Plan, it will be very convenient to declare new pandemics every few seasons, because these phony non-epidemics provide an opportunity to herd the sheep into clinics and remind them who is running the show. Go here, take this vaccine; go there, take that drug; the epidemic is endangering the herd, and you must help your brothers and sisters.

These are the figures on the last several “epidemics.” They are not yearly; they are grand totals, to date; global totals, except in the case of West Nile (US only):

* SARS: 774 deaths.

* WEST NILE: 1159 deaths.

* BIRD FLU: 262 deaths.

* SMALLPOX: (terrorist threat): 0 deaths.

* SWINE FLU: 18,500 deaths. (Many if not most of these are not swine flu. Tests for the presence of the virus came back negative in the overwhelming number of cases.)

To give perspective, globally, the World health Organization claims 250 thousand to 500 thousand people die of ordinary flu-like illness every year. Yet this higher death rate accrues no interest as an epidemic. It is only the “teaching (brainwashing) moments” of the phony epidemics that are promoted by health agencies (e.g., CDC and WHO) and their pharmaceutical allies, who rake in billions by manufacturing new vaccines.

Yes, under the Obama Plan, there will be more declared health emergencies, and they will serve to cement the citizen to his new role as eternal patient in the medical march along bleak streets of the future.

Can you perceive the loss of individual freedom implicit in this universal system of health control?

You see, the widespread (and false) assumption is that more medical care for more people is a good thing. That’s what the politicians and the press tell us. That’s what the medical bureaucrats and the drug companies tell us. This is the central piece of brainwashing.

It’s a bald-faced lie. It’s a death-dealing lie.

And now the American people are saddled with it.

—end of 2012 article—As I predicted, the march toward mandatory vaccination is escalating. Younger and younger children (even babies) are being screened for psychiatric disorders, diagnosed, and prescribed highly toxic drugs. Various bureaucracies are devising new ways to share medical records of patients. We have had more “epidemic” scares with dire predictions that didn’t pan out. Ebola was the most notable.

Obamacare is a RICO operation.

It’s a continuing criminal enterprise at its core, and it produces widespread debilitation and death.

Why not tell the truth about it?

Jon Rappoport

[Flash]

How come public and free health care works pretty well in France, in UK, and with some deviations but yet pretty well in Canada, and American made it in such a way that itcould not do otherwise than fail?

This isthe question American should ask. Our healthcare is paid through taxes, is expensive for our taxes but is sincerely much cheaper than any private insurers in the US. And ours basically works for all. And if you are super wealthy as a Canadian, youcan still be allowed to go faster in the private clinics (not necessarily better, but faster yes).

American are literally financially bled to death with their health care, private or public How come those questions arenot asked?


More on Obamacare from Jon Rappaport
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2016/10/17/the-deepest-secrets-of-obamacare/

The deepest secrets of Obamacare

by Jon Rappoport

October 17, 2016

Press reports indicate Obamacare is in a death spiral, because its structure is unworkable. Premiums are escalating beyond reason, insurers are opting out, and efforts to prop it up are at best a temporary fix.

But when has one of its failed programs ever stopped the federal government from pushing ahead? Increase the debt, fund the whole mess, task PR people to tell one lie after another.

There are hundreds (or more) satellite bureaucracies that have been birthed to support Obamacare, expand its reach, and develop strategies for bringing the whole nation under the umbrella of a national health care system. These “planners” are busy generating schemes for mandatory vaccination, increased psychiatric screening for children, lifetime tracking of patients, etc. The planners revel in devising systems (any systems) that corral huge numbers of people within one-size-fits-all solutions. If you told them there was a new federal program to identify all Americans who use the term ‘individual freedom’ and send their vital statistics to the FBI and the Pentagon, they would jump in with both feet, without a second thought.

But the real secret of Obamacare is in plain sight: it’s the medical treatment itself.

As soon as the proposed bill to create Obamacare was sent to Congress, I began writing about what was in store for Americans. Here is a later article I wrote in 2012, after a constitutional challenge failed:

—June 28, 2012—

I want my Obamacare! I want my Obamacare!

Well, you’ve got it. The US Supreme Court just upheld it by calling the individual mandate a tax.

Those who shout victory to the rooftops have no idea what’s in store for them. No idea at all.

It’s vital to look at the real effects of this sinister plan. It’s all about the effects of mainstream medicine. That’s what the sold-out press is refusing to examine.

The “share and care” humanitarian mask will be peeled away. The US Dept. of Health and Human Services will create, as ordered, a complete list of approved treatments for every disease-label under the sun. And everyone in the insurance plan (everyone in America) will be forced to take what the doctor tells them to take.

For a bonus, unapproved treatments will be banned. People and practitioners who try to use alternative treatments will find themselves in trouble.

This is the hidden agenda of Obamacare. This is what it will morph into in the future—unless it is repealed by the Congress.

I’m not dreaming or fantasizing. I’ve been following and reporting on the medical cartel for 30 years, and I know the mindset of these people, these doctors, these bureaucrats, these pharmaceutical string-pullers behind the scenes. Obamacare is right up their alley. It’s about control, so it’s an answer to their prayers.

So what do we know about their mainstream medicine, the hospital-based drug-addled modern version?

On July 26, 2000, the Journal of the American Medical Association published a landmark paper by Dr. Barbara Starfield (Johns Hopkins School of Public Health), “Is US health really the best in the world?” In it, Starfield revealed what many people inside the medical establishment already knew: every year, like clockwork, the medical system was killing huge numbers of people.

Each year in the US, as Dr. Starfield reported, there are:

* 12,000 deaths from unnecessary surgeries;

* 7,000 deaths from medication errors in hospitals;

* 20,000 deaths from other errors in hospitals;

* 80,000 deaths from infections acquired in hospitals;

* 106,000 deaths from FDA-approved correctly prescribed medicines.

The total of medically-caused deaths in the US every year is 225,000.

This makes the medical system the third leading cause of death in America, behind heart disease and cancer.

In the wake of Starfield’s devastating report, other facts came to light: 2.1 million people in America, every year, are hospitalized as a result of reactions to FDA-approved medicines. Annually, 36 million serious adverse reactions to those drugs occur.

So, inclusive health coverage for many more Americans under the Obama Plan means these horrendous figures will rise.

This is the dirty secret.

Obama and his allies are promoting a medical system that is the third leading cause of death in America. It’s that stark and it’s that simple.

The Obama Plan involves appointing an “expert panel” to decide what treatments Americans should be given for what diseases, under the new regime.

Only a certified idiot would assume that, over time, alternative non-mainstream therapies would survive such an ongoing vetting. Hope may spring eternal, but common sense makes it easy to grasp the realities on the ground.

In the long run, alternative therapies will be edged out. Those that remain will be permitted for a narrow range of conditions, or as adjuncts to standard drug treatments and surgery.

Chiropractors and acupuncturists, who are temporarily basking in the notion that Obama “really cares,” are in for a very rude awakening. Their careers and practices will be significantly reduced. Not today, not tomorrow, but it will happen.

Doctors, under the Plan, will be telling patients they may not take nutritional supplements while in treatment. This will assume the status of an irreversible edict. In many cases, “while in treatment” will mean years.

What happens to a person, conscripted into the mandated Insurance Plan, who is told by his doctor that he should/must receive a vaccine? Suppose this person says no? What are the consequences? Will he then be labeled a defector? What penalties will he suffer?

Does a diagnosis of cancer imply a patient must submit to chemotherapy, radiation, and surgery? Can these treatments be forced upon him?

Perhaps, in the early days of the Plan, nothing untoward will happen. But then, as time passes, and the system assumes tighter and tighter controls, the hand of government will close around the recalcitrant patient’s neck.

“Take this vaccine. Take this chemo drug. If you don’t, you’re out of the system, and that makes you a criminal, because everyone has to be in the system.”

Doctors, who are an integral part of the Plan, will surely be punished if they give unapproved (alternative) treatments to patients.

And in order to make the Plan operate on a day-to-day basis, the records and bookkeeping data of every health-care practitioner in America will eventually be tracked on government computer networks.

Every person in America will have a traceable and trackable medical ID package. Government-issued. There is no way around it. The monitoring apparatus can’t work without it.

Orwellian consequences lie up the road in the field of psychiatric practice. In case you hadn’t noticed, the invention of “disorders” by committee is the preferred method for “discovering” more and more mental illnesses.

Yet, the science is completely fraudulent. For evidence, consult the many works of psychiatrist Peter Breggin, who has done more than any other person to expose the guts of his own profession. (breggin.com) Breggin establishes that mental disorders are not authoritatively diagnosed by a chemical or biological test. Conclusive tests do not exist. And worse, in this undefined and arbitrary territory, the drugs that follow diagnoses are killers: for example, 300,000 cases of motor brain damage, as a result of the administration of major tranquilizers.

Under the Obama Plan, you can bet your bottom dollar that psychiatric care will eventually become mandatory. A patient suddenly diagnosed with clinical depression or bipolar disease will be told he must take the drugs—and suffer their adverse effects.

Very young children will be given more and more debilitating and dangerous brain drugs.

Under the Obama Plan, it will be very convenient to declare new pandemics every few seasons, because these phony non-epidemics provide an opportunity to herd the sheep into clinics and remind them who is running the show. Go here, take this vaccine; go there, take that drug; the epidemic is endangering the herd, and you must help your brothers and sisters.

These are the figures on the last several “epidemics.” They are not yearly; they are grand totals, to date; global totals, except in the case of West Nile (US only):

* SARS: 774 deaths.

* WEST NILE: 1159 deaths.

* BIRD FLU: 262 deaths.

* SMALLPOX: (terrorist threat): 0 deaths.

* SWINE FLU: 18,500 deaths. (Many if not most of these are not swine flu. Tests for the presence of the virus came back negative in the overwhelming number of cases.)

To give perspective, globally, the World health Organization claims 250 thousand to 500 thousand people die of ordinary flu-like illness every year. Yet this higher death rate accrues no interest as an epidemic. It is only the “teaching (brainwashing) moments” of the phony epidemics that are promoted by health agencies (e.g., CDC and WHO) and their pharmaceutical allies, who rake in billions by manufacturing new vaccines.

Yes, under the Obama Plan, there will be more declared health emergencies, and they will serve to cement the citizen to his new role as eternal patient in the medical march along bleak streets of the future.

Can you perceive the loss of individual freedom implicit in this universal system of health control?

You see, the widespread (and false) assumption is that more medical care for more people is a good thing. That’s what the politicians and the press tell us. That’s what the medical bureaucrats and the drug companies tell us. This is the central piece of brainwashing.

It’s a bald-faced lie. It’s a death-dealing lie.

And now the American people are saddled with it.

—end of 2012 article—As I predicted, the march toward mandatory vaccination is escalating. Younger and younger children (even babies) are being screened for psychiatric disorders, diagnosed, and prescribed highly toxic drugs. Various bureaucracies are devising new ways to share medical records of patients. We have had more “epidemic” scares with dire predictions that didn’t pan out. Ebola was the most notable.

Obamacare is a RICO operation.

It’s a continuing criminal enterprise at its core, and it produces widespread debilitation and death.

Why not tell the truth about it?

Jon Rappoport

[onawah]

It's not a question of what is most effacacious or practical, it's a question of "what will ruin the US the fastest"?
Since that is the real goal of globalists.
The US as it was, was too much of a threat to their agenda, so they intend to create as much debilitation and chaos as possible as quickly as they can.

[Sueanne47]

Obamacare was bought out by Serco last year. This is a British company, but its operating location is in Prince William County, Virginia. Prince William owns Obamacare...more corporate control!

http://paulinemaria.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/video-prince-william-owns-obamacare.html

[ThePythonicCow]

Obamacare was bought out by Serco last year. This is a British company, but its operating location is in Prince William County, Virginia. Prince William owns Obamacare...more corporate control!

http://paulinemaria.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/video-prince-william-owns-obamacare.html
Serco owns some Obamacare contracts ... Obamacare is a complex tapestry of laws, institutions, regulations, etc, involving government agencies, insurance companies, corporate policies, medical facilities, hospitals, doctors, patients, ... It is not "owned" by any single institution.

[Sueanne47]

hmm.. that lady has plastered that blogspot all over the place, she says serco is a British company, but I think she is getting her wires crossed with Prince William County and Prince William, & trying to connect the two.

Oh well! thanks Paul for putting that one straight..