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Metaphor
12th December 2010, 23:28
Hey guys. Ive tried to draw you attention to our little nation before. Something sinister is going down in sweden. This latest event, the first suicidebomber in swedish history, has made the swedish primeminister saying that we, quote, "have to give up our freedom for security".
I dont have to tell you ´bout the strange case with Assange and so on, but it sees to me that Sweden is one of the keys in the NWO-agenda. What succeds here is coming to the rest of europe later on. My guess is that they use Sweden as a lab for their little twisted ideas.
In the link to the Daily mail at the bottom of this post, theres enough to keep any conspiracytheorist buzy for a while.
Does this seem familiar to you?:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/12/12/article-1337930-0C748F44000005DC-137_634x355.jpg

Hunting for clues: A police forensics officer takes a mobile phone picture of what appears to an identity card at the scene of the bomber's body

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1337930/Suicide-bomber-died-Stockholm-terrorist-blasts-studied-British-university.html#ixzz17vJXrUCJ

yiolas
12th December 2010, 23:49
Absolutely Fishy to me ! Why are passports and I.D. cards so indestructible anyway ? Why isn't this "investigator" wearing gloves ?
Why didn't all those explosives that he had in his back pack detonate along with the car explosion ? Is it because he was booby trapped and trying to get away ? Why Sweden now ? I think that you might have a point there Metaphor ?

Metaphor
13th December 2010, 00:09
Something for numerolgy-fetishists:
This was in the same block as "Olof Palmes Street 11-13" , the swedish primeminister who was assassinated 1986, on the 11 december.

· Olof Palme
· By the corner of "Queenstreet" (Drottninggatan)
· #11-13
· 11 december ( 11/12 or 12/11)
· Zip code 11137
· Bombers birth date is 1981-12-12

Snowy Owl
13th December 2010, 00:44
You have an historical and chronological perspective here Métaphore

Erin
13th December 2010, 00:57
Why isn't this "investigator" wearing gloves ?

iPhone touch screens don't work with gloves on, sadly.

That aside, I agree. Totally fishy.

Luke
13th December 2010, 08:29
Well, Sweden is perfect place for such campaign start.
Very large state aparatus, high taxes, meaning- very high dependency of normal people on the state and it's agencies, and people treat it as a normal thing.
On the other hand, giant entitlements and "social programs" .. which means under the calm surface there are very large divisions ready to be sprung into action.
Also- Sweden had one of largest up-and-running eugenics program, one of it's designers even received Nobel Prize (Gunnar Myrdal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunnar_Myrdal), 1974, along with one of fathers of Libertarianism,F. Hayek, the irony)..

It's effects was such, that at the beginning of the 80's, the whole state had giant inbreeding problem, which authorities tried to disarm by wholesale "import" of emigrants, mainly from Africa and from "countries breaking human rights" - soviet block, Iraq, you name it.

The second entitlements will run out, there would be giant problem, especially with general authoritarian attitude in population.

As far as I know, not many Swedes are actually aware of that, but then, I only know few. ( Your thoughts, Metaphor?)

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mod hat on- I'm moving this thread to general news. Boom is not earthquake :)

Metaphor
13th December 2010, 08:39
I can only say Luke, that your conclusions are pretty much spot on. But ofcourse your perspective is a bit selective and broad, but then again your conclusion is right on target. The swedish population is very gullible and dependant on the state, but on the other hand this also brings with it that thers also an open mind to new ideas (good or bad). So waking people up is possible, but you really have to work hard to make people realise stuff.

Artemis
13th December 2010, 09:22
olof palme was killed on 28 of february 1986 and on sveavägen... its a couple of roads between...its about 10 to 15 minutes walking distance between... palmes murder has stuck in my memory, because my radio turned on itself in the middle of the night while I was sleeping... and on high volume... so I heard the drama from the beginning...I have lived in and around stockholm for over 30+ years...

I_Am
13th December 2010, 09:31
Sweden also embraced all the Chicago School/Freedman policies of selling out our common infrastructure and wealth to corporations; in fact we are the only country in the world that never needed the "Chock Doctrine"-method that where given to, for instance: Chile, Greece, Spain, China, Argentina etc. etc.

We where also a country, that didn't have to be invaded by Nazi forces during 2nd world war - the many reasons never publicly debated (we gave germany free railways for troop transports, open seas, cheap iron and ball bearings etc).

On the other hand: in many respects we have always have some kind of "true democratic" values alive among most people and holders of public services, solidarity you may say. Up until quite recently the span regarding economic wealth was shrinking - up until the late 80s, when it widened again - and now, faster and faster are we copy-cating the US means of building a society - survival of the greediest, that is.

Finally - when it comes to freemasons a.o. Sweden is a cauldron of symolics - from the egyptian obelisk a the royal castle to Kungsträdgårdens metro station - completely filled with oddities and artifacs.

We are entering the most interesting of times now, even here in the cold, cold northern.

muxfolder
13th December 2010, 10:20
We are entering the most interesting of times now, even here in the cold, cold northern.

Exactly my thoughts when i read this on CNN. I was wondering when do these "terrorists" blow something up here in Finland. It's all about security of the people. They need to show that we are NOT safe, even here.

muxfolder
13th December 2010, 11:04
Seems like it didn't take too long for our president to react.. This is roughly translated by Google Translator:


Halonen: Terrorist attack in Finland is only a matter of time
published today at 11:33 am, updated today at 12:54

President Tarja Halonen said that the terrorist attack in Finland is only a matter of time. Halonen said today in St. Petersburg, Stockholm, attacks that were a surprise, but similar events in Finland can not be excluded.

- It's not if, but when it happens, "said Halonen.

Finnish police and security organizations face Halonen said that already work in this kind of new phenomena.

In central Stockholm on Saturday night after the explosion investigated terrorist acts. Swedish police suspect the attack factor 28-year-old man with an immigrant background, which was owned by an explosion destroyed a car. Explosions killed the suspected bomber and slightly injured two others.

http://yle.fi/uutiset/kotimaa/2010/12/halonen_terrori-isku_suomessa_vain_ajan_kysymys_2215303.html

G.Deluca
13th December 2010, 12:25
i thought this was the situation in sweden (ty leo zagami for the video)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZtc2ma2GEQ&feature=player_embedded

Metaphor
13th December 2010, 13:03
Deluca, i´d discard that video as fearmongering. Everybody is right in their own perspective, he´s not right as I see it. Is his name Zagami? Makes me wonder if he´s related to Leo?

G.Deluca
13th December 2010, 13:41
i think his name is condell,i posted it because it's a contradition of what the op posted but it has the same effect,but that's how they work isn't it?
and ofc,no i don't agree with him

Luke
13th December 2010, 13:53
Deluca, i´d discard that video as fearmongering. Everybody is right in their own perspective, he´s not right as I see it. Is his name Zagami? Makes me wonder if he´s related to Leo?

Second that.. Typical anti-immigrant fearmorgering ..
And rape cases .. hmm, isn't this quaint that we just recently learned that broken protection constitutes rape in Sweden? How that impacts statistics?

Sure there are problems with non-coexisting immigrants .. but there is specific reason too - they are allowed to NOT participate in normal citizen's activities, because they are funded from state coffer. So they live like they will not be allowed to live from where they came from.

It is well known that some radical Muslim sects expelled from their own countries found safe harbour in the west, with funding and separation from normal human activities.. and this relatively tiny minority is just poster boy for xenophobes. By design, if you ask me.

But of course ignorant fearmongers as one linked above just throw all the immigrants in one basket and rant about them, as they are "all the same" right?
How bloody typical.. and how easy it spreads , because that is "simple solution" people crave for.

If you see into history, every great society/country out there managed to be so because it embraced the idea that people are equal (which is precisely on the second pole from 'affirmation of differences') .. In such multicultural societies there were different cultures, but they all found common ground.

They were able to communicate. And so are we here, despite coming from oh-so many backgrounds, ages, nations .. whatever you border d'jour you want to draw. And this is our strength!

irishspirit
13th December 2010, 16:06
Swedish Military Had Prior Knowledge Of Suicide Blast

The Swedish military had prior knowledge of the suicide blast which hit a busy shopping street in central Stockholm on Saturday, suggesting the attack was allowed to go ahead in order to bolster the flagging global war on terror.

“A Swedish Armed Forces (Försvarsmakten) employee warned an acquaintance to stay clear of an area in central Stockholm on Saturday where, several hours later, two explosions went off in what is being called a terrorist attack,” reports The Local, an English-language Swedish newspaper.

The TT news agency obtained a copy of a text message sent to the military staffer. “If you can, avoid Drottninggatan today. A lot can happen there…just so you know,” it read.

Armed Forces spokesperson Jonas Svensson initially said he was unaware of the message but would be checking into its origins. Swedish military sources later acknowledged the authenticity of the message and said they were “preparing how the issue will be dealt with”.

Intelligence analysis professor Wilhelm Agrell said that Swedish authorities may have known in advance of the suicide bombing, but military spokesperson Erik Lagersten denied any prior knowledge in a statement.

http://www.infowars.com/swedish-military-had-prior-knowledge-of-suicide-blast/

irishspirit
13th December 2010, 17:16
The Image below is quite sick, not for those who do not wish to see it. HOWEVER, look at it. The boxes with nails are still around the guy for heavens sake.




http://www.pi-news.net/wp/uploads/2010/12/sverige_anschlag.jpg

Fredkc
13th December 2010, 18:06
Armed Forces spokesperson Jonas Svensson initially said he was unaware of the message but would be checking into its origins. Swedish military sources later acknowledged the authenticity of the message and said they were “preparing how the issue will be dealt with”.
Bold 1. "Hell with what it means, just find out who leaked it!!!!"

Bold 2. "Do we a) arrest the messenger, b) involve him in the plot, c) just shoot him."

taliesin
13th December 2010, 20:23
Last night I had just caught up on the news and it occurred to me that this "event" in Sweden was very timely for the pressure that is being put on that country with regard to wikileaks. No doubt now they will start shutting down freedoms and pass emergency laws and all of this will prevent Assange from being protected there under their freedom of information laws.

I think rape is a very serious crime against women and it should be fully investigated. However at the time when the first allegations suraced - JUST after a massive leak of War Logs - I thought this was a honey trap. The charges were then dropped by the Swediah prosecutor and only reopened a few weeks ago on the urging of a Swedish politician from a different part of Sweden. In the interim one of the alleged victims gave an anonymous interview to a Swedish newspaper saying that the sex started out as consebsual but then became abusive, but that she was not scared of Assange and not in fear. Please correct me if I am wrong and if my understandings are incorrect. It seems that these allegations whilst having some substance to them would not really stand up in court given the retractions and pressure that was brought to bear to have them reinstated.

It is very curious indeed that now there has been this attack, it seems to me that the full force of a huge hegemonic state is going after one man. This bomber according to the UK press today, has only been in Sweden for three weeks. And whilst there is no way to prove that the PTB had anything to do with the bomber, this has been a "lucky" intervention for them and brings more pressure on the state of Sweden to tighten up security and reduce freedom.

And it's all happening in full sight. I talked to people in work today about it and they think I am some sort of conspiracy nut. But conspiracies like these have been proven time and time again. Some of the the leaks last night were about the murder of a civil rights lawyer in Northern Ireland and possible collusion between Loyalist paramilitaries and the British special forces. So its not that these things haven't happened before.

Rocky_Shorz
13th December 2010, 21:09
Sweden suicide bombings: wife 'knew nothing' of Stockholm bomber's 'double life'
The wife of the suicide bomber who blew himself up in a crowded Stockholm street has claimed the double life he lived meant she had no idea what he was planning.

Three weeks prior to the attack, Abdulwahab vanished from the terrace-property giving no explanation to his wife and three young children.

He had previously lived in Sweden and was a Swedish citizen but had moved to Britain in 2001 to complete a degree in sports therapy at the University of Bedfordshire. He graduated in 2004.

When asked if her husband had told her about the plot, Mona Thwany said "No, of course not. I really don't want to talk about it right now, I am very devastated and upset."

In a letter to police and a Swedish news agency, Abdulwahab pleaded with his family for forgiveness over his lies.

He also apologised for keeping his beliefs secret to his family saying he had visited the Middle East not for a job as he had told them but for the sake of jihad.

He said "Forgive me for my lies. I never went to the Middle East to work or earn money, I went there for jihad. I hope that you can understand me some time. I could never have told you all this or to anyone."

He also left a message for his children to be told: "Daddy loves them."

Neighbours of Abdulwahab said he was a loving father. Noreen Hussain, 30, said: "He loved his kids very much. He was a nice man and they were a nice family."

Another neighbour, Nasim Hassan, 51, said he did not think Abdulwahab worked as he was "always playing with the kids in the daytime".

It emerged earlier today that Abdulwahab had been thrown out of a mosque in Luton three years ago following a row over his extremist beliefs.

Sources said he then turned his attention to trying to recruit students by giving sermons at the Islamic Society of the University of Bedfordshire, of which he was a graduate.

story link (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/8199275/Sweden-suicide-bombings-wife-knew-nothing-of-Stockholm-bombers-double-life.html)

Metaphor
13th December 2010, 21:30
Sounds like the typical terrorist to me. Not.

taliesin
13th December 2010, 21:45
Slightly off topic but a profile of Bradley Manning:


http://www.channel4.com/news/catch-up/display/playlistref/131210/clipid/131210_SMITHVT_13

Rocky_Shorz
13th December 2010, 22:31
Kicked out of a Mosque for being too extreme and giving extremist speeches in a University but yet stayed under the radar in London with the largest big brother organization in the world without being noticed?

Luke
14th December 2010, 08:30
Kicked out of a Mosque for being too extreme and giving extremist speeches in a University but yet stayed under the radar in London with the largest big brother organization in the world without being noticed?

Useful idiot. System loves them.
Very useful resource. Point and shoot, and he will think it was his idea.

Sadly, most of world population still thinks "security" means "their security" not "system security"

Rocky_Shorz
16th December 2010, 00:02
Sweden's far-right wants Islamist debate
By Agence France Presse (AFP)

Wednesday, December 15, 201

STOCKHOLM: The far-right Sweden Democrats demanded a debate in parliament on Islamic extremism Tuesday following the weekend’s twin blasts in Stockholm, probably designed to wreak carnage among Christmas shoppers.

“The Sweden Democrats demand a current debate in parliament about violence-prone Islamic extremism,” said the party, which won its first parliamentary seats in September.

“The party proposes that the debate, due to large public interest, be held as soon as possible,” it added in a statement.


story link (http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=2&article_id=122552#axzz18EAsaU8e)

Metaphor
16th December 2010, 08:08
story link (http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=2&article_id=122552#axzz18EAsaU8e)

The Swedendemocrats, how timely that they got elected to the parliment. Their job is probably to polarize the public further to stir up more aggression towards muslims. May I remind you that this party is infiltrated/backed by sionists. At least two of their members in the parliment have won awards for promoting sionism in sweden. Sometimes reality is far more strange fiction. A former political party originating from the rightwing/nazi movement promoting sionism.

Rocky_Shorz
17th December 2010, 20:07
Well every year for Christmas I Celebrate the Holiday of Tusentuk...

I would hate to see Sweden change...