EMF and digital recorder as a contact tool

[mojo]

Some people have used EMF meters and recorders to capture ET activity like communication and with the emf meter, to know when a cloaked object is nearby. After listening to a recording from another researcher done inside a fairy ring the recording of a voice saying, "We are the voices of the Pleiades," was captured on the recorder. That intrigued me because the group that captured were not into ET contact but ghost hunters.

My friend Garry came to Oregon for the sightings and with his many contacts mentioned a retired Dr named Bill was having CE-5 contact where he lived in the Sierra mountains using an EMF meter. Dr Greer has even used car radar detectors which seemed to have some success. Although it seems like many false positives can be registered in urban settings.

Finally able to round out my personal toolbox with the acquisition of these two items and hopeful to share the results.

[Sueanne47]

I'm looking forward to the results Mojo! how exciting..

When a cloaked object is near, they must be in another dimension, a bit like that film Interstellar. I really wish you were in the uk so you could go into the Stonehenge circle, or around the vale of the white horse. Who was the researcher that recorded inside the fairy ring?

[mojo]

Shawn Taylor

amazing to hear the possible ETs talking
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[Fanna]

I really wish you were in the uk so you could go into the Stonehenge circle, or around the vale of the white horse. Who was the researcher that recorded inside the fairy ring?

Mojo is here to catch what is in Mojo's area. If you want to join the fray of Intentional Close Encounters, this link might help (http://www.siriusdisclosure.com/ce-5-initiative/) if you are looking for emf info.

[shadowstalker]

in any urban setting always do an ambient check of your surroundings, for all paranormal investigations.

[shadowstalker]

Some people have used EMF meters and recorders to capture ET activity like communication and with the emf meter, to know when a cloaked object is nearby. After listening to a recording from another researcher done inside a fairy ring the recording of a voice saying, "We are the voices of the Pleiades," was captured on the recorder. That intrigued me because the group that captured were not into ET contact but ghost hunters.

My friend Garry came to Oregon for the sightings and with his many contacts mentioned a retired Dr named Bill was having CE-5 contact where he lived in the Sierra mountains using an EMF meter. Dr Greer has even used car radar detectors which seemed to have some success. Although it seems like many false positives can be registered in urban settings.

Finally able to round out my personal toolbox with the acquisition of these two items and hopeful to share the results.

Yes you can use it for both lol

[Sueanne47]

The video was truly awesome, but they werent sure if it was the grey's mimicking the Pleiadians to get Shawn taken away and probed. Also that's the reason we get mushrooms growing in an unusual circle...is because of the energy inside it!

Thank you Fanna for the link..

[Sunny-side-up]

Are those EMF meters tune-able, you know like you can into radio stations? If not they need to be made so :)

Mushroom circles grow form center outwards, the Mycelium growing from one point
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycelium,
Mushroom circles will have what you could call magical energies because of the energies given off by the psychedelics withing the chemicals. there is more to Natural-psychedelics than getting off your face hehe

And yes for sure please let us hear your results, for me possible sounds of things around us are more interesting than visuals. All are just frequency's after all :)

Where I live I have heard many sounds of craft russing/whooshing/zipping past overhead, no visuals. I even hear what sounds like fleets of craft going over o.o

[Nick Matkin]

An interesting idea, but poor methodology.

Were there base-line measurements elsewhere locally for comparison?

What equipment were they using? What was it showing? In what units (if any) was it calibrated? Was the 'Ghost Box' acting differently near the circle consistently compared to somewhere else in the field?

Sorry, I didn't sit through the whole video because the first 20 minutes suggested the methodology was a bit hit and miss and of limited value.

[mojo]

...appreciate your input on methodology although can understand the paranormal field of research is not so clearly defined. Evidence such as evps, ghost box, dowsing rods, etc how can one be so sure?

[DeDukshyn]

...appreciate your input on methodology although can understand the paranormal field of research is not so clearly defined. Evidence such as evps, ghost box, dowsing rods, etc how can one be so sure?

You are correct mojo, it is a little subjective, etc. We often don't really know what is what in this arena, but of course contrast can give us some clues and hints. I don't think Nick was discounting that, just that one does have the power when engaging in these measurements, to be able to "control" as many of the variables as possible. Sure it's a bit of work, and one might need to bone up on scientific theory to go about it in an effective way; but it would definitely help raise eyebrows with results that were attained using these methods, within the more scientifically minded.

As another example: While I do enjoy some of the "Farsight Institute"'s remote viewing sessions and results, even there I find myself wishing Courtney would tighten up his methods. As scientifically minded as he is, his controls are still occasionally a bit sloppy. More control over variables = more confidence in the results, no matter how fancy your technology is.

[Sunny-side-up]

If I had the means/money I would get people like you/here together, get the devices together, then methodically work towards proper research/knowledge, develop the devices to make them specific and better, pool our results and really come to some findings.

I experience many, many strange things in my day to day life, mainly I guess because i'm always looking but I personally can't even afford a simple/cheep EMF meter lolz

I do also think that i'm not supposed to record the stuff I experience though, experience it personally yes, tell of it to those who wan't to hear but it is for them to experience at their level what is in their reality/s :)

PS sorry about my centance-grammar, it is just how my mind/typing flows

[mojo]

The Natural Trifield meter arrived and it seems a nice analog meter with the ability to sum both magnetic and electrical readings. It also has a audio output for changes in the readings which will come in handy at night. Other field investigators like seeingufospa used meters to pickup readings with some success so it will be a good experiment. The other addition soon to arrive is the digital recorder. We know many ghost hunters use them but havent heard of anyone using a digital recorder for CE5 contact so it will be interesting. In the video posted the audio response seem intelligent and more than one entity responding. The reason the fairy ring was there was the response "for the seeds," also the Pleiades response was intriguing. Does anyone have a thought about voices from the Pleiades? This seems to support David Serada's research about a message from Pleiades contact with a type of quasi crystal communication.

[Sueanne47]

Hi Mojo,

Thanks for telling us about David Sereda, I didnt know about him but I will have a look at his research..

Sue

[TargeT]

An interesting idea, but poor methodology.

Were there base-line measurements elsewhere locally for comparison?

What equipment were they using? What was it showing? In what units (if any) was it calibrated? Was the 'Ghost Box' acting differently near the circle consistently compared to somewhere else in the field?

Sorry, I didn't sit through the whole video because the first 20 minutes suggested the methodology was a bit hit and miss and of limited value.


Thats not how para-science works... you just get a device... and ... #*SCIENCE*#!

who cares about baselines, equipment calibration or even UNDERSTANDING how it works and it's limitations....



the whole point is,, they are using.... A DEVICE! (more credible than some random guy saying " I sat in a ring of mushrooms and heard voices"... I guess?)

This is the same methodology Keshe uses... it's unfortunate, if you are going to use technology and science, then scientific method must be applied.. Control groups, baselines, calibrations understanding of limitations, testing in various areas under as close to the same conditions as possible.

In reality it's very arduous and time consuming work, not something most people are up to, especially when you find out how much of the "sensationalism" is drained from using the proper methodology.

[Nick Matkin]

I have started to see a few more paranormal investigators emphasizing that technical equipment can be useful. I've also seen a few explain that the users need to understand how it works, what its limitations are, what it's measuring, the units of calibration, etc.

But there are still far too many who get an 'EMF meter' (or some other device they don't understand) and just wave it about to a chorus of "Ooohh" and "Aahhh" from the gathered gullible! They still don't even have the concept of base-line measurements, the appreciation of chance/correlation/causation, but just bang on attempting to prove their pet theory.

New discoveries are made by hard work, repeating experiments independently, and sifting through the carefully collected data. It's boring. As TargeT says, it's tedious and often comes to nothing. And it's a lot less fun than standing in a field letting a Ghost Box (not a technical instrument) make noises!

[mojo]

The last few nights out have been a great opportunity to see how the natural trifield meter will be as part of a paranormal tool kit. Though there have been almost negligent readings of magnetic or electrical nature but nice the time is providing a baseline. Perhaps outside away from everything is a help? Although the meter does have a filter to block any man-made readings of an A/C nature. Therefore thinking that any readings will actually be something of an unusual nature when captured.

[Sueanne47]

In this video, they are talking about signals found on ancient megalith sites :

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[Nick Matkin]

In this video, they are talking about signals found on ancient megalith sites :

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Could you tell me where they mention signals? Do they discus the type, frequency or how they were detected?

It sounds a bit more promising than 'energies' that often gets used in this context.

Thanks.

[Sueanne47]

Hi Nick, Maria starts to talk about the energy & signals at 1.31, they did the experiment with copper probes at Avebury Henge.

[TargeT]

Hi Nick, Maria starts to talk about the energy & signals at 1.31, they did the experiment with copper probes at Avebury Henge.


"earth energy" "earth current"

"absorbing the earth energy" and "transmitting it across the land in an areal form of energy which is electromangnetic in nature"

"so its like a linear beam that its transmitting across the land"

"we've got the frequencies so it's basically proven"

"he did have signals" on the "mary current" (??)

and then they go on to talk about geography.....

why would you NOT state the frequency found? this sounds like mumbojumbo mixed with enough "SCIENCE!" to confuse those who have no clue what EMF's are nor how to test for them.

I'm a signals guy for the military, I've worked on Warlocks, all radio systems & am intimately familiar with an O scope and antenna to check for EMF's (mostly jamming signals: aka powerful flooding of frequencies that "blocks out" communication via overwhelming them)

THIS is the kind of language one would expect from someone that is actually technically capable of doing what is claimed to be done above:
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[Nick Matkin]

Thanks Sue, I had a listen to your video in #18. I'm with TargeT. The technical stuff was vague and woolly.

What is it with these folks? They want to be taken seriously, but most couldn't you tell the difference between a kHz and a volt!

Like TargeT's video above shows (construction and operation of a basic RF probe), simple detection equipment is not hard to construct, and should certainty be within the capability of someone claiming to investigate 'energies' round standing stones. ('Energy' is a meaningless term when used like this. I wish paranormal investigators would learn to use terms that have real units.)

So, for anyone thinking of doing this, at the very least you need to record the frequencies and amplitudes of these 'energies'.

Incidentally, if they are strong enough for anyone to claim to be able to detect as they walk into them, they are certainly strong enough to be detected using basic test equipment.