Roswell UFO "was shot down by a Navy Doctor Pilot"

[chancy]

Hello Everyone:
I was watching the video of Lockheed Martin Senior Research Scientist Boyd Bushman and was fascinated as always by his knowledge. Boyd will be missed!

He did give away some information that I had never heard before regarding the UFO crash at Roswell New Mexico.
It starts at 19:50 and gives alot of info in a short period of time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLyc4xp75Zk

Enjoy
chancy

[KiwiElf]

As above:

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[WhiteLove]

Also please note that Google and/or the US government/Cabal has ensured the view count on this video should be minimal (video below).

When this originally aired, within weeks it had reached more than 3 million views, it was spreading like crazy on YouTube.

Then the Cabal activated the Walmart doll defence to confuse the issue, the video was taken down behind the copyright label and I think it was then LipTV that later aired the video on their channel. They reached a little over 1.5 million views and then half a year ago or so that video was removed too.

So this video contains stuff that powers are trying to cover up.

If/how these new versions have been edited I don't know...

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I am totally convinced that Boyd in this state of being thought he was sharing the truth and I think he did. No information available on his cause of death.

[KiwiElf]

Well, let's see if they can cover this one up:

The latest Episode of ANCIENT ALIENS S11.13 - BEYOND ROSWELL goes into this and more (this latest series has really "upped the ante" IMO, particularly the last few episodes):


The U.S. military has long denied that the infamous 1947 Roswell crash was anything other than a weather balloon, but FBI files released in 2011 include a memo to J. Edgar Hoover regarding the recovery of not one, but three "flying saucers." Could the U.S. government really have extraterrestrial crafts in their possession? Ancient Astronaut theorists say yes, and claim that Roswell is just the tip of the iceberg. Over a dozen other UFO crashes were reported all across the world around the same time as Roswell, and it is rumored that the wreckage from these incidents was retrieved and hidden away at secret military bases like Area 51 in Nevada, Kapustin Yar in Russia, Pine Gap in Australia, Rudloe Manor in England, and even in the remote hills of China. But if true, what happened to these alien spaceships?

This & recent Full episodes can be streamed here (they keep getting pulled off YouTube):

http://www.history.com/shows/ancient-aliens

[bogeyman]

The claim is bogus, at present not one of these real so named UFOs has been shot down. These things manipulate the very fabric of time and space, shot down by an air breathing, jet engine or worse aircraft is ridiculous. It like saying a piloted balloon shot down a raptor jet fighter (F22).

[KiwiElf]

The claim is bogus, at present not one of these real so named UFOs has been shot down. These things manipulate the very fabric of time and space, shot down by an air breathing, jet engine or worse aircraft is ridiculous. It like saying a piloted balloon shot down a raptor jet fighter (F22).

Firstly, understand there were several "alleged" crashes of UFO's in Roswell, not just the "infamous one." - The title of this thread may need a slight adjustment ;)

Evidence that UFO's have been "allegedly" shot down by various "earthly" means in the past is plentiful: (just off the top of my head and can be researched)

* 1940's, Several bought down in the 4-corners area encompassing Roswell, Aztec & New Mexico using modified radar (microwaves)
* 1948, Cigar shaped UFO shot down in Russia by missile fired from Mig (actually discussed in the above ANCIENT ALIENS Episode)
* 1989, Kalahari Desert, shot down by South African Airforce

and here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32039-Where-are-all-the-Crashed-UFOs----and-their-Alien-Occupants

[bogeyman]

The claim is bogus, at present not one of these real so named UFOs has been shot down. These things manipulate the very fabric of time and space, shot down by an air breathing, jet engine or worse aircraft is ridiculous. It like saying a piloted balloon shot down a raptor jet fighter (F22).

Firstly, understand there were several "alleged" crashes of UFO's in Roswell, not just the "infamous one."

Evidence that UFO's have been "allegedly" shot down by various "earthly" means in the past is plentiful: (just off the top of my head and can be researched)

* 1940's, Several bought down in the 4-corners area encompassing Roswell, Aztec & New Mexico using modified radar (microwaves)
* 1948, Cigar shaped UFO shot down in Russia by missile fired from Mig
* 1989, Kalahari Desert, shot down by South African Airforce

and here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32039-Where-are-all-the-Crashed-UFOs----and-their-Alien-Occupants

The 1989 story is a fake, a researcher friend of mine was very personally involved he knows the witness the documents were faked. 1948 was not substantiated there were a lot of experimental aircrafts at the time of earthly origin. I know lines of force and the magnetics of the earth have caused some of these so names UFOs to crash. As regarding modified radar I am unfamiliar with this, so I have to research the validate of the information in question. Microwave energy is possible so is EM radiation.

[Mike Gorman]

Every credible account I have read talks about the radar equipment they were using at the time being the factor that brought it down - Colonel Corso I think describes that

[KiwiElf]

Bogeyman, it would be difficult if not impossible to substantiate ANY of them: they've ALL been debunked at some stage - including Roswell :)

[greybeard]

When there is a statement like" Shot down by a Navy Doctor Pilot" I am very wary ---its so so attention catching--not enough to just be an ordinary pilot.
The other thing is that any race so advanced as to get here from an other realm, is not likely to be so inefficient as to crash, or be shot down--its just not logical.

Great story though.

Chris

[KiwiElf]

Mods - title needs some "modification" ;) - in the OP video @ 19:51 onward, Boyd does not confirm (or deny) it was "the Roswell UFO" that was shot down; that's the assumption of the interviewer; :) just "a UFO was shot down somewhere over Texas by his "Doctor friend" who was a Navy pilot). - (the interviewer seems a bit ummm ... clueless IMO ;))

Most of this is as the video title, "UFO Propulsion Systems", and a discussion about gravity, anti-gravity and disputing Einstein's Theory of Relativity.

[KiwiElf]

The other thing is that any race so advanced as to get here from an other realm, is not likely to be so inefficient as to crash, or be shot down--its just not logical.

Even our most advanced aircraft and best pilots suffer crashes, Chris. ;) The list of "alleged UFO crashes" around the world is a fairly significant number over the years (this only goes to the year 2000).

1884 December 13 Sorisole, near Bergamo, Italy
1897 April 17 Aurora, Texas
1897 April 19 Leroy, Kansas, USA
1907 Burlington, Vermont, USA
1908 June 30 Tunguska River, USSR
1910/1915 Puglia Italy
1923 Quetta, Pakistan
1925 Chevy Chase, Maryland, USA
1925 Sept/Oct Polson, Montana
1930 Mandurah, West Australia
1933 Italy
1936 Black Forest, Germany
1938 summer Czernica, Poland
1941 West of San Diego, Ca
1941 Spring Cape Girardeau, Missouri
1941 July 4 Tinian Island, Oceania
1945 Somewhere in the UK
1945 Mataquescuintla, Guatemala
1946 Magdalena, NM
1946 July 9 Lake Barken, Sweden
1946 July 10 Bjorkon, Sweden
1946 July 18 Lake Mjosa Sweden
1946 July 19 Noon Lake Kolmjarv, Sweden
1946 August 12 SW Sweden
1946 August 16 Malmo Sweden
1946 mid-October Southern Sweden
1947 January Papagos Indian Reserv. AZ NEW
1947 May Spitzbergen, Norway Newspaper articles, cover up, 17 bodies.
1947 May 31 Socorro, New Mexico
1947 July Near St. Joseph, MO

1947 July 4 Roswell, New Mexico, USA - foil-like debris recovered on Mac Brazel's Ranch
1947 July 5 Plains of San Augustin, Socorro, New Mexico, USA - 4-5 bodies, one live ET?
(These two incidents represent the well known Roswell Incident which were actually in two crash locations.

1947 July 31 Maury Island, Tacoma, USA.
1947 August 13 Hopi Reservation, Arizona
1947 October 2 Cave Creek, Arizona, USA
1947 October Paradise Valley, Arizona, USA
1947 October 20 San Diego , California
1948 Kingman, Arizona, USA

1948 February 13 Aztec, New Mexico, USA, 12-16 alleged bodies recovered
1948 March 25 White Sands, New Mexico, USA
(These two incidents may be the same, and recent re-investigation have linked them to one of the crashed saucers described in Frank Scully's book, "Behind the Flying Saucers"

1948 7/8 July Near Laredo, 38 miles inside Mexico, Bodies recovered.
1948 August Laredo, Texas, USA 1 body recovered
1949 Roswell, NM, USA Not the famous case of 1947.
1949 August 19 Death Valley, California, USA Story by 2 prospectors.
1950 (before) Near Mexico City, Mexico Second hand witness.
1950 January Mojave Desert, California, USA
1950 February 10 Copenhagen, Denmark Farmer witness UFO explode.
1950 March. New Mexico, USA FBI memo mentions recovery of 3 crashed saucers
1950 April Argentina Bodies not there anymore on next day
1950 Birmingham, Alabama Single witness case.
1950 May 10 Bahia Blanca Province, Argentina
1950 September 10 Albuquerque, Texas, USA 3 bodies
1950 December 6 El Indio/Guerrero area, Tex-Mex border, Texas, USA
1952 July Washington DC, USA
1952 July 23 Pueblo, Colorado, USA Admitted hoax.
1952 August Ohio, USA
1952 August 14 Ely, Nevada, USA 16 bodies recovered.
1952 September 9 Spitzbergen, Norway Probable mystification.
1953 Brady, Montana, USA Recovery of bodies by military.
1953 April 18 South-West Arizona, USA
1953 May 20 Western Utah, USA
1953 May 20/21 Kingman, Arizona, USA Reliable witness, 2 bodies
1953 June 19 Laredo, Texas, USA 4 bodies
1953 Summer Fort Polk, LA, USA
1953 July 10 Johannesburg, South Africa 5 bodies
1953 October 13 Dutton, Montana, USA 4 bodies
1954 (Spring) Matydale, New York, USA Police denies incident.
1955 July Vestra Norrland, Sweden
1955 May 5 Brighton, UK 5 bodies
1957 July 18 Carlsbad, New Mexico, USA 4 bodies
1957 September 14 Ubatuba, Brazil Physical evidences, fragments analyzed.
1957 November 21 Reasty Hill, Scarborough, Yorks
1958/1959 Woomera, Australia
1958 Utah desert
1959 January 21 Gdynia, Poland
1959 Frdynia, Poland Body and parts.
1959 September 17 Wormer near Amsterdam
1959 Undated Italy, North of Rome
1960s offshore Spain
1960s Great Sand Dunes, Co
1960 March New Paltz, New York, USA Alien dies 28 days later.
1961 Timmensdorfer, Germany
1961 April 28 2am. Lake Onega, Karelskaya, USSR.
1962 June 12 Holoman AFB, New Mexico, USA 2 bodies
1962 Otero County, NM
1962 April 18 Las Vegas, Nevada, USA Impressive events.
1963/1972 Australia, 12 recoveries
1963 July 16 Charlton, UK
1963 December 10 Cosford RAF, UK Alleged crash cover-up on RAF base.
1964 November 10 Fort Riley, Kansas, USA 9 bodies
1965 San Miguel, Argentina
1965 December 9 Kecksburg, Michigan, USA Very famous controversial case.
1966 October 26 Arizona, USA 1 body
1967 January South-West Missouri, USA 40 inches disc
1968 February 12 Orocue, Columbia US say 'satellite debris'.
1972 July 18 Saharian desert, Morocco 3 bodies
1973 July 10 Northwest Arizona, USA 5 bodies
1974 Llandrillo, Clwyd, Wales, UK
1974 November 9 Carbondale, Pennsylvania, USA Hoax or cover story?
1974 May 17 Chili, New Mexico, USA UFO moved to Kirtland AFB.
1974 August 25 Chihuahua, Mexico Disc crash
1976 May 12 Desert, Australia 4 bodies
1977 April 5 South-West Ohio, USA 11 bodies
1977 June 22 Northwest Arizona, USA 5 bodies
1977 August 17 Tobasco, Mexico 2 bodies
1978 May 6 Padcaya, Bolivia Search team finds nothing.
1978 Ocean off Finland, USSR USSR army rcovers bodies.
1978 November 10 Lebannon
1988 Russia Hill 611: debris recovered, analysis, conclusion: ET craft.
1988 November Afghanistan 7 bodies
1989 Cap Ontario, Canada
1989 May 7 Kalahari desert, Botswana, South Africa (Hoax or controversial)
1989 Siberia 9 alive
1989 September 28 Smith's Point Beach, Long Island, New York, USA
1990 September 2 Megas Platanos, Greece
1992 April Niagara Falls, USA Recovery by Army in front of witnesses
1992 November Long Island, New York, USA UFO Network is investigating.
1994 Birmingham, UK
1996 January 20 Varginha, Brazil Alleged capture of aliens by the military.
2000 August 27 Balochistan, Pakistan Newspaper report ufos and ufo crash.

[greybeard]

The other thing is that any race so advanced as to get here from an other realm, is not likely to be so inefficient as to crash, or be shot down--its just not logical.

Even our most advanced aircraft and best pilots suffer crashes, Chris. ;) The list of "alleged UFO crashes" around the world is a fairly significant number over the years.

Yes thats all true --yet its chalk and cheese---our average advanced aircraft is not going to go that far and the human body is not going to withstand the speed necessary to get from one planet to another---So for all these alleged UFO crashes is there one bit of wreckage on display-----tongue in cheek-of course our undercover controlers are that efficient that they are at the crash site moments after the event and spirit away all evidence--instantly---also assuming a high speed crash debris will be scattered for miles. All these alleged crashes did not happen recently did they?
Anyway I have the highest regard for any race that is so advanced that they can even get here and it would seem they have been doing this for thousand of years.

Basically I dont know I just suspect--query.

Chris

[KiwiElf]

Hi Chris, sorry I added a list to the above post - it only goes to 2000 - "officially", none of them happened ;)

[greybeard]

Hi Chris, sorry I added a list to the above post - it only goes to 2000 - "officially", none of them happened ;)

Thanks for the list KiwiElf thats impressive--I have not delved into it--I assume there is back up evidence--ie wreckage.
Im inclined to disbelieve official but then again most media reports are also coming from Illuminate owned papers etc

I tend to look at agenda---in who's interest is it?

"We need more funding for space programs--weaponry"--you name it

Im not saying there are no UFO crashes ---they dont seem to happen in front of loads of ordinary people though, or do they?.

Thanks Chris

[KiwiElf]

Hi Chris, sorry I added a list to the above post - it only goes to 2000 - "officially", none of them happened ;)

Thanks for the list KiwiElf thats impressive--I have not delved into it--I assume there is back up evidence--ie wreckage.
Im inclined to disbelieve official but then again most media reports are also coming from Illuminate owned papers etc

I tend to look at agenda---in who's interest is it?

"We need more funding for space programs--weaponry"--you name it

Im not saying there are no UFO crashes ---they dont seem to happen in front of loads of ordinary people though, or do they?.

Thanks Chris

Unfortunately no (or maybe fortunately!!! ;)) There are a couple... "allegedly" :)

[greybeard]

I love the word Allegedly ---gets one out of all sorts of trouble---the absolute disclaimer. Laughing.
I use it quite often.
Im neither believing nor disbelieving--just not convinced either way

Thanks again
Chris

Ps One could allege--im sitting on the fence--smiling

[KiwiElf]

I love the word Allegedly ---gets one out of all sorts of trouble---the absolute disclaimer. Laughing.
I use it quite often.
Im neither believing nor disbelieving--just not convinced either way

Thanks again
Chris

Ps One could allege--im sitting on the fence--smiling

Hehe - me too - watch out for low flying (or crashing) UFO's ;)

[Sunny-side-up]

When there is a statement like" Shot down by a Navy Doctor Pilot" I am very wary ---its so so attention catching--not enough to just be an ordinary pilot.
The other thing is that any race so advanced as to get here from an other realm, is not likely to be so inefficient as to crash, or be shot down--its just not logical.

Great story though.

Chris

our war mongering, power mongering so called leaders will find a way some how. technology is not infallible, even if from some where other than here. Think of this as well greybeard, we have our commercial airliners (very easy to shoot down) and our military planes (not easy to shoot down) :sun:

so that might well suggest the ships shot down where not aggressive or combat defensed, but still we shoot :(

Addition:
For that matter who's technology was it that we "Allegedly" used to allegedly shoot anything down Hmm?

I've absolutely no doubt as to them existing, they do, I'm not interested if we did shoot one/some down or not. what gets me is that no one says they are sorry for allegedly doing it :(
Did they the UFO's shoot first? did they shoot second? I bet not!

[Sunny-side-up]

The claim is bogus, at present not one of these real so named UFOs has been shot down. These things manipulate the very fabric of time and space, shot down by an air breathing, jet engine or worse aircraft is ridiculous. It like saying a piloted balloon shot down a raptor jet fighter (F22).

hehe yeah but, if it said balloon was armed with the right weapon it could :)

but yes to the main point of what your saying there bogeyman :sun:

[Conde]

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