Venezuela ~ If you're anti Maduro, you are sacked.

[Sueanne47]

Is there nothing that can be done to stop this tyrannical government? are the people going to start eating each other (cannibalism) to stay alive???!!!

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/08/venezuela-civil-servants-face-sack-referendum-160823183050669.html

I found a website that gives humanitarian aid to Venezuela if anyone would be kind enough to donate :

http://www.ayudahumanitariavenezuela.org/english.html

[Iloveyou]

It is my strong opinion that it is not President Maduro - who followed Hugo Chavez and continued Chavez' policies - and his government who are crashing the country.

See John Pilger's 2007 documentary on Venezuela and other Latin American countries - and the serial overt and covert US intervention.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/b2/0e/94/b20e942be161a0f2e9f0c6a02dd99021.jpg


https://vimeo.com/16724719

(maybe someone can embed the video?)



'The War On Democracy' (2007) was John Pilger's first for cinema. It explores the current and past relationship of Washington with Latin American countries such as Venezuela, Bolivia and Chile.

Using archive footage sourced by Michael Moore's archivist Carl Deal, the film shows how serial US intervention, overt and covert, has toppled a series of legitimate governments in the Latin American region since the 1950s. The democratically elected Chilean government of Salvador Allende, for example, was ousted by a US backed coup in 1973 and replaced by the military dictatorship of General Pinochet. Guatemala, Panama, Nicaragua, Honduras and El Salvador have all been invaded by the United States.

John Pilger interviews several ex-CIA agents who took part in secret campaigns against democratic countries in the region. He investigates the School of the Americas in the US state of Georgia, where Pinochet’s torture squads were trained along with tyrants and death squad leaders in Haiti, El Salvador, Brazil and Argentina.

The film unearths the real story behind the attempted overthrow of Venezuela's President Hugo Chávez in 2002 and how the people of the barrios of Caracas rose up to force his return to power.

It also looks at the wider rise of populist governments across South America lead by indigenous leaders intent on loosening the shackles of Washington and a fairer redistribution of the continent's natural wealth.

John Pilger says: "[The film] is about the struggle of people to free themselves from a modern form of slavery". These people, he says, "describe a world not as American presidents like to see it as useful or expendable, they describe the power of courage and humanity among people with next to nothing. They reclaim noble words like democracy, freedom, liberation, justice, and in doing so they are defending the most basic human rights of all of us in a war being waged against all of us."

[Sueanne47]

Thank you ILoveyou,

I should have said the *US tyrannical government* sorry for the confusion! JF Kennedy was a good man ~ that's why he was assasinated. Maduro is just a puppet for the elites, I think the end game plan is to lower the population of Venezuela by disease and starvation to bring about martial law and take control of all that oil. That is what I feel the middle east wars are about...the total control of the oil pipelines.

[Iloveyou]

The Al Jazeera article seems to be balanced (not so sure due to my still very limited English (re connotations, undertones, language nuances). But the 'Programa de Ayuda Humanitaria para Venezuela', who ask for help for the Venezuelan population, is aggressively anti - Maduro

Sueanne, of course you are right with everything you say, I don't mean to attack you, I'm very grateful that you brought that topic up. And btw, I very much do enjoy your presence on the forum.

I'm just suspicious. Could be that the same players who organized the coup against Chavez in 2002, who took him out (murdered?) him in 2013, are after Maduro's government now? That they provoked/induced the 'economic crisis'?

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Please allow me to remind you (the readers) that six (resp. five) leaders of Latin American countries which had criticized US policies and tried to create an influential alliance in order to be independent and sovereign states, were diagnosed with cancer within a relatively close period of time.

Argentina’s President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner (thyroid cancer), 2012
(later it was 'proven' that she had not suffered from cancer, but which conspiracy theorist would take that for granted?)

Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff (cancer in the lymphatic system), 2009

Paraguay’s Fernando Lugo (diagnosed with non-Hodgkin lymphoma), 2010

Former Brazilian leader Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva (throat cancer), 2011

Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez (type of cancer not disclosed), 2011, died 2013

Retired Cuban leader Fidel Castro was also diagnosed with cancer, but that one is an issue in itself (interesting article by Servando Gonzalez)
http://www.intelinet.org/sg_site/articles/sg_high_tech_assass.html )

http://www.intelinet.org/sg_site/illustrations/chavez_castro_david.jpg

I'm very interested in other, different views/informations on this topic.

[Sueanne47]

Thanks Iloveyou! :heart: :hug:

The south american leaders could have died 'officially' from cancer, when really they were murdered.

I saw your video, its disgusting why there are filthy rich people on one side of Caracas, and the houses precariously built on the hillsides are so poor.

[Iloveyou]

The economic crisis in Venezuela is happening in the midst of an existential political crisis. Is it the result of socialist mismanagement as the American MSM suggests - or is President Maduro right when he says that the country is the victim of a sabotage campaign led by the US + the Venezuelan elite?

Media Exaggerations of Apocalyptic Venezuela Plays into Regime Change Narrative

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"The mainstream has consistently--and possibly deliberately--exaggerated what's going on in Venezuela to present this really, horrendous situation which goes above and beyond what's happening. The situation is definitely a real crisis, but it's not apocalyptic the way that you've seen it in the mainstream media...

I think the apocalyptic failed-state narrative is dangerous - without, again, minimizing the real suffering that is happening amongst significant parts of the population, and probably growing parts of the population--but the apocalyptic total-collapse narrative goes hand-in-hand with the regime-change agenda, which is fairly open on the part of the U.S. government...

So this sort of coverage which suggests that the government has totally fallen apart, the country has totally fallen apart, the only thing that can save it is some sort of foreign intervention, someone saving Venezuela from outside, they go very much hand-in-hand."


I'm not surprised by the coverage of the Venezuela topic by the MSM, but it does trouble me that f. e. infowars take the same line and even surpass that with an imo biased, scornful, manipulative approach, full of ridiculous lies (imo). Just for reference:
http://www.infowars.com/venezuela-asks-jesus-christ-of-marxism-to-save-economy/

[Sueanne47]

The US Elite's didnt like what Hugo Chavez was saying in public about them and Israel, so I think they are taking revenge on the Venezuelan's for supporting him. Now Chavez is gone they are going all out to destroy the population (their plan is to depopulate the world...so they might as well target that country, and seize the oil)

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The people are being helped by the Columbian's though with food and medicine. thousands are leaving Venezuela..

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[Iloveyou]

Taking revenge, destroying the population, crashing the country, making an example of it, seizing the oil reserves - the attempt to demonstrate ultimate power - that in fact brings it all to a different, and deeper, darker level. This Chavez video above allows for a good glimpse on the background . .

Sure, Maduro is not Chavez, but what do you mean with Maduro being a puppet?


Maduro is just a puppet for the elites . .

[Sueanne47]

The US elites can control Maduro, like they do Obama/Bush/Clinton and religious leaders. The elite's are having revenge on countries that didnt have rothchild's banks in control of the countries finances. 7 countries have been under serious attack.

[Iloveyou]

Why would the US elites attempt to overthrow Maduro and his government time and again, when they can control him?

2014 . .

Fake Venezuela images

While the Venezuelan opposition calls for "regime change", the media are busily engaged in numerous manipulations.

-An event in Sao Paulo (Brazil) changes into an event in Caracas (Venezuela).
-An aerial image of a religious pilgrimage is sold as a mass opposition rally, which never took place.
-The grievances of Chilean students are used by the Venezuelan far-right.
-A torture case in the European Union (Spain) becomes a battle-cry for the Venezuelan right-wing.
-Egyptian police cracking down on Venezuelan citizens.
-Jihadists in Aleppo (Syria) switch to Venezuelan opponents in Maracay.
-Not even the poor Loukanikos, dog icon of the Greek revolt, has been spared.

pictures, sources: http://www.voltairenet.org/article182251.html


"All of the opposition leadership hails from the far-right, conservative, elite, white, and neoliberal sectors of society" (George Ciccariello-Maher)


2015 . .

The United States, Germany, Canada, Israel and the United Kingdom launched "Operation Jericho"

Obama failed his coup in Venezuela
by Thierry Meyssan

Once again, the Obama administration has tried to force the change of a political regime that resists it. On February 12, [2015] an Academi (formerly Blackwater) plane disguised as an aircraft of the Venezuelan army was supposed to bomb the presidential palace and kill President Nicolas Maduro. The plotters had planned to place former MP María Corina Machado in power and have her immediately acclaimed by former Latin American presidents.

continue reading: http://www.voltairenet.org/article186879.html


2016 . . etc.

Who is Henrique Capriles Radonski?

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Whos-the-Man-Asking-the-Military-to-Upend-Venezuela-Democracy-20160518-0022.html

[Sueanne47]

If the elite cartel could finally get their hands on the oil both in Venezuela & Iran, they could use this oil as a weapon against their competitors. they are deliberatly keeping the price low for a reason.

Here it's all explained, the world is being played like one big chess game.:

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Radonski was the opposition candidate (who is/was a lawyer) to Chavez in the election of 2012.

[Yetti]

Thanks Sueanne. I was living in Venezuela for over 27 ys, it is a shame for one to se what's oing on there, The puppet of chavez , ( maduro , a very uneducated bus driver) is taking the country to the very bottom, and nobody wants to help a country that was a very good business partner for many other nations, but 19 years of revolutionary dictatorship driven by oil money, need to end, and free the people from the cuban influence once for all. But ,by the other hand, is the very way the venezuelan people are ,the cause of this desaster. Always waithing for someone else fix the problem, or why to work so hard if we have money and can buy it , well let me tell you , no fortune last forever. The potential for being a rich country still there, but the situation is unbareble .
More people dies a mont assasinated in venezuela than the entire middle east war, by the gangs suplied by the maduro's regime, a country with no law where there is more weapons inside the jail than at the outside.
You can be killed at any moment on the streets for your shoes, watch, car, whatever, and nobody can help you, and don't even try to call the police because it's getting very nasty then.
What really piss me off is the fact than the UN has made a sight for a long time ignoring all the claims done by several personalityes in the past 15 years, that attitude tells me only one thing: there is a behind the courtains plan to take down Venezuela to the very bottom, an then show up as savior Heroes, I mean UN and US TROOPS> or , try to have a second viet nam to keep the industrial military complex happy selling weapons to both sides....
Remember in Venezuela lies the biggest oil reserves of the world, natural gas, coal, iron aluminum, gold diamonds, COLTAN, and you can produce food all year long without feezes, or tornados, not even hurrycanes. A shame for real.... I still have some good friends there.....

[Yetti]

iloveyuo,,, what you say is totally incorrect, The pictures of totally empty shelves on the supermarkets, farmacys, and other stores is not a fabrication of the media it is true, I have some family there and they send me the images of empty business, and they try to show to the world whats going on there , because we all know the media is totally controlled. People scavenging trash for some food is a very normal view today, inform yourself. thanks.

[Atlas]

The US Elite's didnt like what Hugo Chavez was saying in public [...]
My favorite quote:
http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-if-the-climate-were-a-bank-they-would-already-have-saved-it-hugo-chavez-79-76-78.jpg


People scavenging trash for some food is a very normal view today [...]
This recent video of people stealing goods from a bakery in Caracas shows that Venezuela's economic crisis is deepening. The surveillance cameras located in the shop captured the looting on video:
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Dozens of people can be seen flocking inside and grabbing goods off the shelves in broad daylight. Men, women and children take everything, from drinks and cakes to bread.

Nobody seems to care about breaking the law and employees do not even try to intervene. The locals who stole the goods did not destroy anything and did not need to force their way inside.

[Iloveyou]

Thanks, Yetti. My point was not to deny that there's a bad crisis and people are struggling to live. I don't believe that the pictures of empty shelves are faked. I tried (and still do) to put the focus on the following:

In the media the situation is shown in an exaggerated way and exploited for the reason (among others) to make a US interference / 'invasion' of any kind acceptable for the public. Venezuelans 'eating zoo animals and household pets to survive' - ? - which I learned from an author on info wars.

The US elite want to get rid of the socialist government. Is Maduro now an elite-puppet, a Chavez-puppet or both or none?

I'm aware that all this is just talk on the superficial, visible level, while the real players / handlers are implementing their strategies worldwide. It is stunning how 'our' look at any subject is prefabricated by opinions that have been established slowly but steadily, over the years. Don't think that I'm absolving myself from that.


edit:

started 2015 and carried out effectively . .

"To justify the coup [Washington-2015-plan for the overthrow of the democratic institutions of Venezuela] the White House had encouraged large Venezuelan companies to warehouse rather than distribute essential commodities. The idea was to cause queues at the shops, and to infiltrate agents into the crowd to cause riots. In reality, though there had been supply problems in January-February and queues in front of stores, never did Venezuelans attack shops." [in 2015]

from above: http://www.voltairenet.org/article186879.html

[Yetti]

To Iloveyou.. Thanks and as you say what we chew some times is a fabrication, but believe me is far worst than you think, the biggest problem in venezuela now is : the enormous amount of totally uneducated people, (from 13 to 35 yrs old.) That the government of chavez /maduro amed with all kind of weapons in exchange of protect the revolution in case of any other force try to thakem down. they call " the colectivos". At the same time 70% of the budget go to the corrupt army in a way of blank checks to have the armed forces align to the revolution.... otherwise the chavez gov will being overtaken long ago. So the scenario is horrible, and is about to happen a bloodshed in any time , specially this thursday sept 1st. The question here is: who in the hell is going to manage the dsisamament of such a population? and how?. Maybe a miracle?... i dunno.